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[man vocalizing Arabic prayer]
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[overlapping chatter]
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[sirens blare]
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[announcer] The Israeli forces
continued their attack
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resulting in the death
of 7 young men
who where working
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in Beit Lahia, 6 of them
from the same family.
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President Abbas mourned
the death of the young men
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who died by
Zionist enemy shells
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and Aljihad movement issued
a statement this morning
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threatening to avenge these
brutal attacks...
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[man] In 2005...
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In the second uprising...
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We are going to Beit Lahia
to meet the enemy...
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Israeli soldiers and officers
with hands stained with blood.
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They might be Shabak...
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They might arrest us,
assassinate us...
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We were born under occupation.
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So we were ready to do anything
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in order to get our freedom.
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Even this.
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[announcer] ...and left in Iran
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over 500 dead.
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The five killed in the suicide
bombing of
a Tel Aviv restaurant
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were buried this morning
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The "Fallen of El-Aksa" have
claimed responsibility .
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Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
has said that
the IDF will not rest.
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[man] Someone called,
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there are people who want to
meet with us.
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As soon as we crossed the
roadblock
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our fears began to increase.
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These people have blood on
their hands and are dangerous.
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We're a group of Israelis, so
this has to be a trap.
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I believe that everyone knows
that we're Israelis.
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Another two notice,
it's been planned out.
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We don't have any weapons,
nothing at all.
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I say to myself that I have
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no idea how
this will end.
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My story begins
with my grandfather.
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My father's father,
he was born in Poland.
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He was the crazy Zionist
of the family,
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and that's the reason
he left Poland
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in the mid '30s
of the twentieth century.
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[ship horn toots]
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[Chen] He left his family
and immigrated to Palestine.
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All his brothers
and sisters
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and parents and uncles
and cousins and aunts
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and everybody...
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No one survived.
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Zionism actually
saved my grandfather.
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And that's the reason
that we have a family now.
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[shouting]
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We hereby declare the
establishment of the
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Jewish state in the Land of
Israel, the State of Israel.
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[applause]
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[Chen] Israel is really
the only shelter
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in which Jewish people
can live in security,
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and not to be slaughtered,
not to be massacred
by the others.
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[Golda Meir]
On Saturday morning,
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the first Egyptian planes
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bombed Tel Aviv.
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Arabs are invading
the State of Israel.
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Jews are fighting
for the only thing
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that they have
in their possession.
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In the beginning
of the journey...
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My family's journey, or
Palestinian people's journey...
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The state of Israel
is Palestinians's Nakba.
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in 1948...
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My family lived
in a Palestinian village,
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called Laqbeba,
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my family lived there
for generations...
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In 1948 the Israeli Army
occupied most of the villages,
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all the people of the village
fled including my family,
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except my grandfather,
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he refused to flee away.
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Hence he died in his house.
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My family moved to live
in Dhaisha camp,
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and they're still there.
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[alarm sounds]
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[Chen] I was four years old
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when we were attacked
on Yom Kippur.
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I remember the sirens.
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I remember us running
to the shelter in Tel Aviv.
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My father was holding
a radio transistor
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and pulled the antennae
out of the shelter
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in order to hear the news
and to update the people
in the shelter
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what is going on.
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[man on radio]
The IDF spokesman reports that
about 2:00 PM the forces of
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Egypt and Syria opened attacks
in the Sinai and the Golan.
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[Chen]
Then he left the shelter
and he went to join the war.
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[man on radio]
As a result of Syrian air
activity over the Golan
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air defense sirens have been
sounded throughout the country.
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[Chen] There is a real threat.
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I mean, it's very concrete
for a child:
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They want to kill us.
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[Israeli military
radio chatter]
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[Avner] I grew up in a kibbutz
not very far from Tel Aviv.
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In my teen years,
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I became more aware
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of what it means
to be an Israeli.
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And I think that,
more than anything,
it was the army.
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War stories
and war memories
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were all around, you know?
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In school,
in the ceremonies...
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My uncle died in the war.
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I never got to know him,
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but it was, you know,
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in the family.
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[sobbing]
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[muttering]
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[singing]
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[weeping]
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[man] When I was 10 years old,
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my uncle, who was a fighter
in PLO, was killed in Lebanon.
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[chanting]
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So I asked my mother
a few questions,
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such as "why there isn't
a Palestinian army?"
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"Why we don't go back
to our country?"
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[arguing]
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She said we're living
under Israeli occupation
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The Israeli Army
and Israeli people...
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They are ruling
the Palestinian people.
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Let it be clear,
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no matter
how long it takes,
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no force on Earth
can deprive
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my people of the right
to statehood.
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Each time they demolished
a house in Selwan
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there was a police
or army forces
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to protect the bulldozer
that will demolish the house.
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[shouting]
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[woman screams]
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When I was young
I was not allowed to be there
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because it's dangerous.
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[sobs]
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[screams]
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So we were watching
from the roofs,
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or from a balcony...
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We were watching
and feeling the pain.
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[crying]
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There was a tremendous anger...
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[gunshots]
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[reporter]
Arab terrorists attacked
an Israeli town today
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for the fourth time
in two months.
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Sixteen Israeli
high school students died
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and 70 more were wounded
in the Palestine terrorist
operation.
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[shouting]
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[reporter]
The three Arab terrorists
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had been hiding
in the area for several days,
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but nobody could find them
until they struck
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at a school
full of Israeli teenagers.
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Only the massacre
of 18 Israelis
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in the town of Kiryat Shmona
a month ago was worse,
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but the death toll here
may top that
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if some of the wounded
die of their injuries.
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The terror
is a continuous activity
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and will require
a continuous response
on our side, too.
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Since I was born
I saw by myself
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how the occupier
destroys us, and kills us.
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The first martyr I knew was
Ibrahim Mansour.
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A college student
was visiting his parents
in our neighborhood
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And they stormed Tulkarem...
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And they killed him
at our doorsteps.
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I cannot forget
the blood I saw.
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[Palestinian music
playing]
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I loved the Palestinian
revolutionary songs.
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I used to lock myself
in the room to listen to them.
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I used to dream to become
a fighter
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in the Palestinian revolution
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to wear the Army suit and
the Kufiya...
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The common weapon back then
was the AK-47,
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And I wanted to be part
of the Armed struggle...
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And I watched on the TV...
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Also the horrific images...
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Of Sabra and Shatila massacre
that took place in
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the Palestinians refugee camps
in Lebanon.
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[shouting in Arabic]
Who did this to us, my mother.
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[woman continues
shouting in Arabic]
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I had tremendous sympathy
with those people,
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and I felt an urge to avenge.
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I was willing to sacrifice
my life for these ideas.
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[cheering]
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[whistling]
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[clamoring]
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I joined the army
when I was 18 years old.
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I went to a tank unit.
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[Avner] I was admitted
into Sayeret Matkal,
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the prestigious unit
in the Israeli Army.
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I was extremely proud.
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I knew my father was proud.
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[Chen] When we finished
basic training,
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I was sent to the West Bank.
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All the occupied territories
were under curfew,
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so, obviously,
at night nobody is
allowed to be outside.
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The army forced a curfew
from 5 p.m to 5 a.m
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every day, and whoever
gets out in these
house was arrested...
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Or... was harmed.
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I was 2 weeks
to become 16 years old.
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My brother Nasser was 14.
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He went out from our house
to my uncle's
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which was 50 meter away...
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When encountered army in his
way he was afraid and escaped.
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The soldiers followed him
and shot him.
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And of course he died.
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I don't know how at the time...
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I was able to endure
the situation...
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I felt as if the sky fell
upon my head.
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In Israel, there were more
clashes during the night
in the Occupied Territories
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between troops
and Palestinian demonstrators.
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[shouting]
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As soon as I got the chance
I began throwing stones.
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The soldiers in the patrol
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might shoot at you...
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But you can hide behind
some kind of barrier...
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Throwing stones,
and you are masked...
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Even if you're carrying a stone
and he is carrying a gun
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You feel some king of balance.
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Our aim was not to kill him,
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but it was discharging
our energy and big hatred
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towards this entity which
caused our pains.
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[Chen] There were hundreds
of people demonstrating,
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shouting, throwing stones.
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Rivers of hatred
and hostility and violence.
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And I felt that I have to
defend myself.
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[gunfire]
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And I really
didn't understand,
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why do they hate us
so much?
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I did not have any fear at all.
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But the oppressor and occupier
must be defied.
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[tires screech]
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We were under a real volley
of stone throwing, Molotov
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cocktails and brick and
such. They injured soldiers
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from my battalion.
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[shouts]
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It was clear to me that the
Army had to increase the
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number of troops
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in order to protect
our civilians
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We must make it clear to them
where we are and where they are
so they won't dare do anything.
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[Chen]
If we won't keep them here,
quiet, under our domination,
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they will be in Tel Aviv
slaughtering us.
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After a while it was not enough
to throw stones only
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or throwing Molotov...
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So I needed to access weapons.
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Me and another guy
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decided to attack
one or two Israeli
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and take their weapons.
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I did not have
a detailed plan...
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I might get killed or kill...
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I was standing behind
one of the two Israeli
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and I stabbed him...
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00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:09,143
And become like
you're watching a play.
250
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,815
The fight ended and we escaped.
251
00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:24,658
After a day or two
the army came and arrested us,
252
00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:31,123
and I felt like
going to the unknown...
253
00:21:35,002 --> 00:21:36,629
[machines beeping]
254
00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:39,006
[military radio chatter]
255
00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,221
I spent my military service
as an IAF officer
256
00:21:45,429 --> 00:21:48,182
in a command center.
257
00:21:49,183 --> 00:21:51,101
Earphones over the ears
like so, walkie-talkie,
258
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,562
sitting in front of a screen.
At that time there were still
259
00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:59,109
round analogue screens that
looked like they had been
260
00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:02,822
taken from the series
"The Time Tunnel."
261
00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:08,786
In order to monitor and support
flight operations
262
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,082
that included deployment
of bombs.
263
00:22:15,292 --> 00:22:17,586
[explosion]
264
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:19,630
[shouting]
265
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:21,632
The martyrs count increased,
266
00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:24,343
every day more martyrs...
267
00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,095
Children...
268
00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:28,013
[child crying]
269
00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:29,598
[woman shouting]
270
00:22:29,682 --> 00:22:32,268
My cousin martyred,
a 17 year old.
271
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,728
He was going out the mosque.
272
00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:36,897
Another cousin,
a 14 year old martyred too.
273
00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,608
A little child
coming from school.
274
00:22:40,901 --> 00:22:43,028
My sister's sister in law
also martyred,
275
00:22:43,153 --> 00:22:44,405
She was 15 years old.
276
00:22:48,242 --> 00:22:49,910
[police sirens blare]
277
00:22:49,994 --> 00:22:53,330
One day my daughter
came from school screaming...
278
00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:57,376
A little girl
was killed in their school.
279
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,380
She used to wake up screaming
every day.
280
00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:03,966
I was very concerned
for my daughter.
281
00:23:05,843 --> 00:23:06,969
I felt choked.
282
00:23:07,136 --> 00:23:10,764
I held a tremendous
grudge against them.
283
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,185
This is not right.
284
00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:20,232
I started thinking
"what is my role in life here".
285
00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:26,322
So I decided to do
a Suicide attack.
286
00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:35,706
[screaming]
287
00:23:39,043 --> 00:23:40,669
[reporter]
Terror on Jaffa Street.
288
00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:43,631
A suicide bomber
disguised as an Orthodox Jew
289
00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:47,217
stepped onto city bus
number 14 right next to
the main market.
290
00:23:47,301 --> 00:23:49,511
[Judy Woodruff]
A suicide bombing in Israel
291
00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:53,307
outside a crowded beach
discotheque near Tel Aviv.
292
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:55,601
[Tom Brokaw]
One of the worst
suicide bombings yet,
293
00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:58,228
tonight at a resort hotel
in Northern Israel...
294
00:23:58,312 --> 00:23:59,647
a murderous day...
295
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:01,857
More than 20 people
dead tonight...
296
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:04,068
[Reporter 3]
Twenty-six people were killed
and more than 200...
297
00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:06,403
[Reporter 4]
The death toll is at least 19
and could go higher.
298
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:08,364
-[Reporter 5]
Among the victims...
-[overlapping voices]
299
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,491
[Reporter 6]
Burned or cut down by shrapnel.
300
00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:12,785
[Judy Woodruff]
Police are saying
those are not final numbers...
301
00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:15,412
[Wolf Blitzer]
Mostly young people,
and the counting continues...
302
00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:18,749
[Judy Woodruff]
At least 15 dead,
at least 35 injured...
303
00:24:18,832 --> 00:24:22,378
This suicide attack
tonight is the third within
the past week here.
304
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,089
It comes after several
Palestinian...
305
00:24:29,218 --> 00:24:32,137
It is antagonizing and angering
causes the feeling...
306
00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:37,393
Simply the feeling of terror.
307
00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,980
My situation
was so complicated.
308
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:43,691
How am I going to
abandon my daughter?
309
00:24:44,692 --> 00:24:47,611
How to abandon my family,
my mother?
310
00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,113
How to abandon life?
311
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,034
But they did not leave us
any other choice.
312
00:24:56,412 --> 00:25:00,541
We were laterally living
in a graveyard of living.
313
00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:03,919
[shouting]
314
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:11,009
One day before the operation
I decided...
315
00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:14,888
To tell my daughter
what I was going to do.
316
00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:22,980
I said, "Dodo, My sweetheart,
317
00:25:24,148 --> 00:25:27,901
I love you so much,
and you know how much...
318
00:25:27,985 --> 00:25:31,071
You are the most precious
thing in my life,
319
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,490
and I don't want
to abandon you...
320
00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:36,285
But what is happening
is very hard for us to accept.
321
00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:39,037
We are dying...
322
00:25:39,663 --> 00:25:42,541
Like guinea pigs...
323
00:25:42,833 --> 00:25:44,376
And nobody cares about us.
324
00:25:44,585 --> 00:25:46,670
I am going to do something
so you can live.
325
00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:50,007
I am going to wear a belt...
326
00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:52,593
And blow myself up
among Israelis."
327
00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,387
She said, "what do you mean?
Are you coming back?"
328
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,016
I said, "How can I come back?"
329
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,685
"No, I'm not coming back.
I am going to die."
330
00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:05,063
She said, "What do you mean?
I'll never see you again?"
331
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,609
I said, "Yes, but you'll have
to look up to the sky...
332
00:26:14,615 --> 00:26:16,909
You'll find a star..."
333
00:26:27,336 --> 00:26:29,838
I preferred to go out
while she was asleep.
334
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:45,187
I looked
and the army was everywhere.
335
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:51,860
And they arrested me.
336
00:26:58,283 --> 00:27:02,371
She is 24, divorced and the
mother of a four year girl
337
00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,249
from Tul Karem. She was caught
during this past week.
338
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:09,461
Shlomi Eldar interviewed her
at the Kishon Prison.
339
00:27:10,379 --> 00:27:12,631
[Shlomi] What are
the operations you did?
340
00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:13,632
What do you mean?
341
00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:14,967
Terrorist operations.
342
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:16,802
It's not terrorist,
it's martyrdom.
343
00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:17,761
You are terrorist.
344
00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:20,055
On the contrary,
it's martyrdom.
345
00:27:20,138 --> 00:27:21,139
What is the difference?
346
00:27:21,223 --> 00:27:23,350
There is a big difference.
347
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:27,354
The terrorism is to kill...
348
00:27:27,813 --> 00:27:29,022
and do...
349
00:27:29,231 --> 00:27:32,276
-without any on...
-what did you do?
350
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,820
-what are you doing?
-Defending our homeland.
351
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:51,461
[Chen] One night, we were
doing this patrol.
352
00:27:51,545 --> 00:27:55,382
All of a sudden we got
a Molotov cocktail on our Jeep.
353
00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:58,468
After a few days,
we got information
354
00:27:58,552 --> 00:28:00,679
on who threw
the Molotov cocktail on us,
355
00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:03,932
and we got an order
to arrest the guy.
356
00:28:05,934 --> 00:28:08,395
We were all with guns
and very alert.
357
00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:11,189
Where is the wanted man?
358
00:28:11,273 --> 00:28:14,234
It's very quiet,
but very tense.
359
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:20,198
Then all of a sudden
the guy from Intelligence
pulled our guy,
360
00:28:20,282 --> 00:28:23,660
and in front of me I see
a nine or ten-year-old boy.
361
00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:25,829
He's still half asleep.
362
00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:29,791
Then he said, "It's him."
363
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,006
It was a little boy.
364
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:58,278
It was on the first day of a
military operation in Gaza,
365
00:28:58,487 --> 00:29:04,618
which began with an enormous
flyover in the south of Gaza
366
00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:13,460
and tons of iron were dropped.
367
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:18,006
All the while are talking
with planes,
you're Ok'ed to attack.
368
00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,384
[inaudible]
369
00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:24,263
I am not occupied with the
question as to what
370
00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:27,724
goes on as to say
behind the screen.
371
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:33,522
I don't even understand
what we are attacking.
372
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:42,572
But out of that small point in
southern Gaza came
373
00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:46,827
horrible pictures 15 minutes
later that we saw on TV
374
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,039
in the clubhouse.
375
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:01,967
There was something in the
sterile distance digitalized
and air conditioned way it
376
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:05,012
was portrayed as opposed to the
horrendous reality...
377
00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:08,890
that something snapped.
378
00:30:20,027 --> 00:30:22,654
I was in a room
with prisoners...
379
00:30:22,738 --> 00:30:25,657
who spent more than 10 years
because their participation
380
00:30:25,741 --> 00:30:27,451
in fighting the occupation...
381
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,876
And we watched a film
about the holocaust.
382
00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:39,254
I thing it was
Schindler's list,
383
00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:45,010
And the film touched us,
and we were crying.
384
00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:02,611
This is complicated situation,
because...
385
00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:06,615
We are talking about
parents and grandparents
386
00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:09,326
of our jailers.
387
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:13,705
And we felt a great sympathy
and solidarity with them.
388
00:31:15,665 --> 00:31:19,127
I became more open
to, meet with Israelis.
389
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,963
And I learned
how to read Hebrew.
390
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:25,217
And understood the struggle
from deferent point of view.
391
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,970
I tried to see the picture...
392
00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:32,432
Out of context, kind of.
393
00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:39,648
I used to think
that all Israelis are the same.
394
00:31:39,981 --> 00:31:41,066
Evil.
395
00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:47,531
One day, one of the jailer
lost her brother
396
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:49,991
in one of
the martyrdom attacks.
397
00:31:57,457 --> 00:32:02,754
So we expected that after that
she will treat us brutally.
398
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,511
That jailer said,
"believe me, I'm not upset."
399
00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,346
"I'm against all the violence."
400
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:14,099
"And as you die we die."
401
00:32:14,224 --> 00:32:15,725
"The blood causes blood."
402
00:32:16,685 --> 00:32:19,104
"I wish to live in peace."
403
00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:25,527
I started to reconsider a lot.
404
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:30,907
I found that there is goodness.
405
00:32:30,991 --> 00:32:32,701
Goodness is possible.
406
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,043
[Chen]
One day, at a checkpoint,
407
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,338
I see a taxi
filled with children
408
00:32:45,422 --> 00:32:49,092
and the driver
is explaining to us
that these are sick children.
409
00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:53,096
He asked us to let them
go to hospital.
410
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:54,764
And I said,
"No. These are the orders.
411
00:32:54,848 --> 00:32:56,850
You don't have permit,
you have to arrange that."
412
00:32:56,933 --> 00:32:59,853
And then...
And he's like, you know,
413
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:02,731
his look was
like he was about to kill me.
414
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:06,485
And at that moment,
I got a phone call
from my wife,
415
00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:09,529
and she's telling me,
416
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:12,532
"I know that you
are in reserve duty,
but I have a problem.
417
00:33:12,616 --> 00:33:14,701
I cannot pick up our daughter
from the kindergarten.
418
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,870
Can you talk to your mother
that she will pick her up?"
419
00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:20,248
And I said,
"Yes, of course."
I mean, what a question.
420
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:22,584
And I'm doing that,
and I hung up,
421
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:26,838
and I call my mother,
and I arrange that.
422
00:33:26,922 --> 00:33:32,344
And at the same time,
my sight is on the cab
with the children.
423
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:40,018
And I feel that something
is extremely wrong
in this situation.
424
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,896
[inaudible]
425
00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:49,110
[Chen] I realize that
there is a split here
between me as a father,
426
00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:53,573
responsible and worried
for my daughter,
and me as a soldier.
427
00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:57,077
Looking at these children,
428
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,120
I'm not able
to really see them.
429
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,665
That they are exactly
in the same situation
right now.
430
00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:06,002
They need a responsible adult
that will take care of them.
431
00:34:09,965 --> 00:34:13,718
I knew that this split,
I cannot live with anymore.
432
00:34:13,802 --> 00:34:15,679
Um...
433
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,186
One day, I came home...
434
00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:25,897
There was bus explosion
in Jerusalem...
435
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:29,526
And there were a lot dead.
436
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,820
The majority was children.
437
00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:38,243
And my mother was crying.
438
00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:42,330
I said, "Why are you crying?
it's not in Palestine,
439
00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:43,665
It's in Israel!"
440
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:49,629
She looked at me and said,
"Those dead children...
441
00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:54,801
Their mothers will suffer
the same pain I suffered,
442
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,555
it's the same pain,
443
00:34:58,638 --> 00:35:01,182
And it's the same blood,
with same color.
444
00:35:02,726 --> 00:35:05,895
And the suffering
of the mother
who loses her child,
445
00:35:05,979 --> 00:35:09,774
Israeli or Palestinian,
is the same exactly.
446
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:20,452
These things
shook me deeply.
447
00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:26,833
That means any thing...
coming from me...
448
00:35:28,752 --> 00:35:31,588
Like avenge another person,
449
00:35:32,088 --> 00:35:34,841
I will cause the same pain
that my mother suffered.
450
00:35:34,924 --> 00:35:37,719
So it's hard for me
to cause pain to any mother.
451
00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:40,972
because I understand
the meaning of mother's pain.
452
00:35:42,015 --> 00:35:43,642
That's it.
453
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:02,494
[Avner]
My sister asked me to join her
in the Occupied Territories,
454
00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,830
where Palestinians
had been evicted by the army.
455
00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,833
We were going to bring them
blankets.
456
00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:11,670
For the first time,
I was, as a civilian,
457
00:36:11,753 --> 00:36:16,508
in the Occupied Territories
among these radical "lefties."
458
00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:19,886
And on the other side
were the soldiers,
459
00:36:19,969 --> 00:36:21,888
with whom I identified more.
460
00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:28,228
When the army
declared this area
a closed military zone,
461
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,856
my instinct was,
okay, we are to go home.
462
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:35,318
The army said
we have to go home,
so let's go home.
463
00:36:35,402 --> 00:36:38,488
But these people,
they wouldn't go home.
464
00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:41,157
They said, "Look, we're here.
We brought blankets
465
00:36:41,241 --> 00:36:43,118
to people who are now
out in the cold
466
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:45,537
because you demolished
their houses.
467
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:46,955
And we're gonna get there."
468
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:53,294
And I realized it's my army.
It's me.
469
00:36:56,548 --> 00:37:01,094
One of them was thrown
on the floor and they
beat the shit out of him.
470
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:04,305
And he just shouted,
"Go on, go on. March on."
471
00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:06,850
And everybody
just marched forward.
472
00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:11,062
I was so impressed.
473
00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:17,026
The military takes courage,
you know?
474
00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:22,699
But sometimes
civilian courage
is so much more.
475
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,169
This is when I said...
476
00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,589
I'm not going to be
part of it.
477
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:57,442
[Chen]
We find out that
there are many officers
478
00:37:57,525 --> 00:37:59,235
and combatant soldiers
479
00:37:59,319 --> 00:38:03,406
that are feeling it's time
to take responsibility.
480
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:07,577
Not to be part
of the Israeli mainstream,
but to transform it.
481
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:09,621
[Avner]
We had a few meetings
482
00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,915
in which we drafted a letter
to the Prime Minister.
483
00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:13,792
It was Ariel Sharon
at the time.
484
00:38:15,585 --> 00:38:17,837
[Chen]
We declare that
we are willing to fight
485
00:38:17,921 --> 00:38:21,716
for any cause that is serving
the security of Israel,
486
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,636
but the occupation
is not such an action
487
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,679
and we are not willing
to serve it anymore.
488
00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:28,765
[Avner]
We are not against
serving in the army,
489
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:34,229
we are against turning
the army into a mechanism
of oppression.
490
00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:41,528
We are not willing to expel,
humiliate and starve
3.5 million people.
491
00:38:41,611 --> 00:38:44,906
And then it all blew up
on the 8:00 news.
492
00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:46,908
Good evening. There have been
commendations from all sides of
493
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:50,161
political, military and
public spectrum regarding
494
00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:53,957
the new Dissenters' Letter.
495
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:58,503
Anyone who will not obey
will be prosecuted.
496
00:38:58,878 --> 00:39:02,131
They are objectors
without any conscience.
497
00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:06,094
And they are an embarrassment
to the State of Israel
and to Jewish people.
498
00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:08,555
-Hello, Avner
-Good evening.
499
00:39:08,763 --> 00:39:11,599
Before we continue,
let's clarify, are you required
500
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,893
cover up your identity or is it
your choice?
501
00:39:13,977 --> 00:39:16,145
I need you as per
security regulations
502
00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,523
Okay, you are a Sargent Major
in the reserves.
503
00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:20,316
How many years are you with
the General Staff squad?
504
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,111
-Ten years.
-About, yes.
505
00:39:23,194 --> 00:39:27,156
What has caused you at this
time to sign such a letter?
506
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:33,079
This not a simple step.
It has caused
a lot of anguish to both
507
00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:37,125
-my friends and myself.
-Hm-hmm.
508
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:41,087
This between us this is an act
of patriotism.
509
00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:42,714
From now on,
510
00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:44,716
this will no longer
be acceptable.
511
00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:55,310
In the detention period
we had a cultural committee.
512
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,645
We called it
revolutionary universities.
513
00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:03,651
We learned about other
revolutionary experiences
514
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,195
in the world.
We studied Gandhi in India,
515
00:40:06,279 --> 00:40:09,282
And Nelson Mandela
in South Africa.
516
00:40:12,285 --> 00:40:15,121
In order to achieve
better conditions in prison
517
00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:18,124
we decided to use
the nonviolent resistance
518
00:40:18,207 --> 00:40:20,209
and we started a hunger strike.
519
00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:28,009
We felt stronger
than the jailer despite...
520
00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:30,678
despite the fact
that he controls the doors.
521
00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:36,392
And we achieved
what we requested.
522
00:40:41,064 --> 00:40:44,525
I got out after 10 years
and 5 months in prison.
523
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:48,947
And started with others
to think of alternatives
524
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:51,658
to the facts
of the second uprising.
525
00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:53,409
[chattering in Arabic]
526
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:55,161
[woman shouts]
527
00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:57,121
[whistles]
528
00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:00,625
[trilling]
529
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:03,711
[family members
speaking Arabic]
530
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:08,883
After 6 years I got out.
531
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,470
[man speaking
over loudspeaker]
532
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:14,514
[fireworks pop]
533
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:21,270
I was determined
to send my message.
534
00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:23,481
Enough with blood.
535
00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:36,744
[overlapping voices]
536
00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:38,871
[voices continue]
537
00:41:38,955 --> 00:41:40,123
[phone ringing]
538
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:47,797
[Avner]
One day, one of the people
in the refusal group
539
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,092
called me, saying,
"There's a bunch of
Palestinians in Beit Jala.
540
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:53,636
They heard about the whole
refusal movement
541
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,556
and they are interested
in meeting us."
542
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,978
And I said, "Where?"
543
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,106
He said, "Beit Jala,
it's near Jerusalem."
544
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:07,525
Um...
545
00:42:07,608 --> 00:42:09,068
You know,
and I was thinking,
546
00:42:09,152 --> 00:42:11,946
"That place is probably
full of Arabs, right?"
547
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,907
[laughs]
We are refusing to serve
in the Occupied Territories,
548
00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:18,119
but when somebody's organizing
a meeting with Palestinians,
549
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:24,876
the first thing
that comes to my mind,
that who is going to be...
550
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:28,254
responsible
for our security?
551
00:42:28,337 --> 00:42:32,300
And the next thing
that comes to my mind
is that I need a weapon.
552
00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:45,730
I was very afraid,
553
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,399
it might be a trap.
554
00:42:52,195 --> 00:42:57,116
Kidnapping or arrest
or killing...
555
00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:01,621
[Avner]
We get there and there's
one Palestinian saying,
556
00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:03,664
"Look, there's going to be
a wedding here soon.
557
00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:06,292
So, just cross over
to the other side
558
00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:07,960
and there are cars
waiting for you."
559
00:43:14,509 --> 00:43:18,387
If they want to kidnap us
and hold us hostages,
560
00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:20,807
or kill us,
they could just do it.
561
00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:23,559
We don't really know
who these people are.
562
00:43:39,534 --> 00:43:42,370
I looked at their faces
asking my self
563
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:44,163
"Who killed my friends?"
564
00:43:46,707 --> 00:43:49,710
I felt a great deal of anger.
They were terrorists
565
00:43:49,836 --> 00:43:51,254
as far as I was concerned.
566
00:43:52,088 --> 00:43:55,466
I'm looking at those whose role
was to fall when I shoot.
567
00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:57,260
The enemy.
568
00:43:57,343 --> 00:44:01,806
I felt that they could kill me
without blinking.
569
00:44:02,849 --> 00:44:04,767
I felt like eating them,
570
00:44:04,934 --> 00:44:07,812
I can't stand them.
who are they.
571
00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:12,066
They killed me, and my family,
and my relatives.
572
00:44:13,276 --> 00:44:16,154
When you look at their faces
573
00:44:16,279 --> 00:44:18,739
and to their body language
574
00:44:18,865 --> 00:44:21,242
You remember all...
575
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:25,538
The images of
the armed Israeli soldier.
576
00:44:31,252 --> 00:44:33,838
[Chen]
The first step for healing
and the first step
577
00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:36,132
to build trust,
is to confess.
578
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,847
We decided to exchange
our personal stories.
579
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:46,517
But how can I trust them,
and tell them what I did.
580
00:44:48,436 --> 00:44:50,396
[Chen]
Would I say the name
of the village
581
00:44:50,479 --> 00:44:52,773
where I demolished a house?
582
00:44:52,857 --> 00:44:55,985
Somebody here in the room
might be from that village,
583
00:44:56,068 --> 00:44:57,904
and then
he or she will say,
584
00:44:57,987 --> 00:45:00,823
"You've demolished
my sister's house,"
585
00:45:00,907 --> 00:45:03,659
or, "I was living there."
586
00:45:04,118 --> 00:45:06,621
When I say that
I attacked 2 Israelis...
587
00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:10,708
I will see in their eyes
588
00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:12,335
some kind of tension.
589
00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:22,637
When I finished telling the
story, they came and
590
00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:26,432
shook my hand with mixed
emotions as if to say
591
00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:28,559
It's not easy for us, but
we're glad you're with us.
592
00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:33,272
I was very surprised.
593
00:45:33,481 --> 00:45:38,194
[Avner]
We find that we actually
have something in common.
594
00:45:38,277 --> 00:45:43,741
That willingness to kill people
you don't know.
595
00:45:46,243 --> 00:45:49,205
We know that
we and the Israelis...
596
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:52,249
2 sides living the suffering
because of occupation
597
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,461
we discovered that
there is mutual interests
598
00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:57,922
We're Israelis and Palestinians
but have the same message.
599
00:45:58,005 --> 00:45:59,173
We want peace.
600
00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:05,096
[Avner]
It was destabilizing.
601
00:46:05,179 --> 00:46:07,974
It got me thinking
about so many different things,
602
00:46:08,057 --> 00:46:11,602
things that I never really
thought about.
603
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:17,900
I started to think about
everything from the other side.
604
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:22,196
All these heroic operations
605
00:46:22,279 --> 00:46:24,240
I read about
when I was a child.
606
00:46:24,323 --> 00:46:27,910
How did they seem
from the other side?
607
00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,874
On the way back,
an Israeli checkpoint
stops you.
608
00:46:34,458 --> 00:46:38,713
And you see another Israeli
have the same look and language
609
00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:42,341
so you feel
tremendous contradictions
610
00:46:42,425 --> 00:46:43,634
in the same day.
611
00:46:44,844 --> 00:46:47,972
Suddenly I can talk with much
forgiveness and empathy.
612
00:46:48,305 --> 00:46:52,435
I know that if
I was in his shoes
613
00:46:52,518 --> 00:46:57,523
that I would probably
think the same way.
614
00:46:57,857 --> 00:47:01,861
It is indispensable
for a fighting system
615
00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:05,489
to deny the humanity
of the other side.
616
00:47:05,573 --> 00:47:07,867
Otherwise, how could you
possibly kill somebody?
617
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:11,078
He has family. You know?
618
00:47:11,162 --> 00:47:15,499
He has hopes,
he has fears, he has...
619
00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:16,834
dreams.
620
00:47:19,295 --> 00:47:24,759
No, he has to remain
this somewhat vague--
He has to remain a target.
621
00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:27,219
Not a person,
not a human being.
622
00:47:30,306 --> 00:47:35,436
Something new was born
in the Arab-Israeli conflict.
623
00:47:35,811 --> 00:47:38,939
In 2006 we agreed
to establish common groups
624
00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,775
for the purpose
of ending the occupation
625
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,028
and achieve a real peace
between the two people.
626
00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:48,115
And we named ourselves
"Combatants for the peace".
627
00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:15,810
[man]
I want a-- I want
better politics.
628
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:17,144
[laughing]
629
00:48:17,228 --> 00:48:19,688
[chattering]
630
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,070
[Chen]
Each time we are creating
631
00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:28,864
this alternative
to the reality,
632
00:48:28,948 --> 00:48:32,034
which is an Israeli
and Palestinian communicating,
633
00:48:32,118 --> 00:48:35,746
taking an action together,
it's a revolution.
634
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:37,665
Not less than that.
635
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,337
My name is Erez from Tel Aviv.
I was born into a very right
636
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:46,048
wing family that believes
the Arabs want to drive us into
637
00:48:46,132 --> 00:48:48,759
the sea. That they don't really
want peace,
638
00:48:49,301 --> 00:48:53,556
including the Palestinians, who
only understand brute force.
639
00:48:54,181 --> 00:48:58,060
I served as an officer, in the
rank of captain in the IDF.
640
00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,939
I come from a family most of
it's members are prisoners,
641
00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:03,732
there are martyrs,
642
00:49:03,858 --> 00:49:08,362
I was 17 years old when I first
participated in the uprising.
643
00:49:08,696 --> 00:49:13,242
I was prisoned as
a 17 year old,
I spent 4 years.
644
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:16,829
When it's
the time of the army enlisting
645
00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:19,623
I enlisted
in the special forces.
646
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:21,834
And I was proud.
647
00:49:22,251 --> 00:49:26,338
[Avner]
One of the most significant
things in Combatants for Peace
648
00:49:26,422 --> 00:49:32,511
is that we exemplify
our possibility to change.
649
00:49:32,595 --> 00:49:38,475
And as long as we
understand and respect
what we were before,
650
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,104
we can walk together
that path towards
a better future.
651
00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:46,233
[chattering]
652
00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:55,451
To there, next.
653
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,038
Now the oppressed
will give a chance,
654
00:49:59,121 --> 00:50:01,498
others a chance to express
their opinions in change.
655
00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:04,418
So you can join us in the way
we're gonna change the reality.
656
00:50:04,752 --> 00:50:07,463
The purpose of the theater is
not to entertain them.
657
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,842
[Chen]
We use theater
in order to rehearse
658
00:50:11,926 --> 00:50:15,930
the transformation
of the reality.
659
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:19,099
The reality
wants to separate us apart,
660
00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:21,977
and to keep the hostility
and the hatred
661
00:50:22,061 --> 00:50:26,565
and the approach
that each side is the victim
662
00:50:26,649 --> 00:50:29,109
and the other side
is the perpetrator.
663
00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:31,987
We shouldn't come with
preconceived ideas.
664
00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:34,114
As Israelis and Palestinians
we are in equal positions.
665
00:50:34,406 --> 00:50:38,160
I hope that we'll be stronger
than the complex reality
666
00:50:38,244 --> 00:50:40,246
in which we are living,
especially we Palestinians.
667
00:50:40,329 --> 00:50:42,289
And let go
of the victim thing...
668
00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:45,251
With all respect to the fence
and the settlements.
669
00:50:45,334 --> 00:50:46,502
There is no respect
for the fence.
670
00:50:46,585 --> 00:50:49,255
[laughing]
671
00:50:49,338 --> 00:50:51,257
There's something
very important:
672
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:55,094
In every village entrance
in the Palestinian authority
673
00:50:55,261 --> 00:50:58,264
the occupation put warnings
674
00:50:58,430 --> 00:51:01,308
for the Israelis,
like we are killers.
675
00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:06,146
We should
do something about it
at least modify them
676
00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:11,068
to not warn them from us,
because we are... like them.
677
00:51:12,444 --> 00:51:15,948
The main question, in my
opinion, we should ask
678
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,076
how to form an efficient
strategy for a non-violent
679
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:22,913
end to the occupation?
680
00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:46,812
[fireworks pop]
681
00:51:46,895 --> 00:51:48,897
[reporter]
Thanks to intensive
shuttle diplomacy,
682
00:51:48,981 --> 00:51:52,026
Middle East peace talks between
Israelis and Palestinians
683
00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:54,737
are restarting
after a three-year stalemate.
684
00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:57,656
Palestinians
have suffered enough.
685
00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:59,658
And no one benefits more
686
00:51:59,742 --> 00:52:02,578
from the success
of this endeavor more
than Palestinians.
687
00:52:02,661 --> 00:52:04,413
In these negotiations,
688
00:52:04,496 --> 00:52:09,293
it's not our intention
to argue about the past,
689
00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:13,922
but to create solutions
and make decisions
for the future.
690
00:52:26,268 --> 00:52:29,772
[Avner]
Our plan is a nonviolent
demonstration.
691
00:52:29,855 --> 00:52:34,234
We don't know, of course,
what the army is going to do.
692
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:38,072
[man]
I don't want to give the army
time to prepare itself.
693
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:40,741
If the soldiers stop us,
we stop.
694
00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:42,284
-We don't confront them.
-[man] Yeah.
695
00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:43,869
And if there's
a really serious problem,
696
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:46,497
you leave the puppets
and you go somewhere safe.
697
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:52,669
The meaning is,
I am walking for my freedom,
until I get to the Wall.
698
00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:56,465
From here,
it's begin my un-freedom,
not my freedom.
699
00:53:00,052 --> 00:53:01,929
[Chen]
What is unique
in nonviolence
700
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:05,307
is that the way
is as important as the goal.
701
00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:24,910
-If we both want to reach
a solution.
-Yes.
702
00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:29,706
Then we all need to compromise,
correct?
703
00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:33,669
-Compromise about what?
-That if we are to abandon
704
00:53:34,002 --> 00:53:39,091
Judea and Samaria, then the
Palestinian mainstream needs
705
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:43,470
to realize that if they are
ever going to achieve statehood
706
00:53:43,554 --> 00:53:48,100
they'll need to renounce their
dream to return to Jaffa
707
00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:51,603
and Acre. Three million
Palestinians will not return.
708
00:53:51,687 --> 00:53:53,730
Who am I to choose who leaves
who returns?
709
00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:57,067
Jewish residents of Acre will
have to vacate their homes?
710
00:53:57,151 --> 00:53:59,153
We can state that no one will
forced out of his home.
711
00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:01,363
What is your ideal situation?
712
00:54:01,447 --> 00:54:04,658
Whoever wishes to be in
Palestine shall be allowed to.
713
00:54:04,741 --> 00:54:07,119
Whoever chooses not to come,
I will not compel all the
714
00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:10,372
refugees to return.
715
00:54:10,789 --> 00:54:13,417
They will, however,
have the choice.
716
00:54:29,475 --> 00:54:31,393
[chattering]
717
00:54:40,486 --> 00:54:41,862
Coming, Jamil?
718
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:42,905
I'm coming.
719
00:54:46,992 --> 00:54:48,243
What?
720
00:54:50,204 --> 00:54:52,623
You want to come with me
to the demonstration on Friday?
721
00:54:55,501 --> 00:54:57,669
Want to go?
722
00:54:57,753 --> 00:54:59,713
Want to go
to the demonstration?
723
00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:01,548
Not by myself.
724
00:55:03,175 --> 00:55:04,510
Where is the demonstration?
725
00:55:05,219 --> 00:55:06,887
In Beit jaffa.
726
00:55:07,346 --> 00:55:10,432
What is it about?
only flags and like that?
727
00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:15,145
Handala pictures
and miniature of the Wall.
728
00:55:15,604 --> 00:55:17,940
An there are birds also,
729
00:55:18,857 --> 00:55:20,234
And peace.
730
00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:23,195
[laughing]
731
00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:24,112
And peace.
732
00:55:25,864 --> 00:55:28,659
-Hurrah!
-Hurrah!
733
00:55:34,122 --> 00:55:36,166
You know my opinion,
734
00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:39,127
I don't want them to
participate
in these activities.
735
00:55:39,419 --> 00:55:42,172
OK, and I want to participate
in these activities.
736
00:55:43,257 --> 00:55:46,134
Yes, but they are children,
we shouldn't...
737
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,179
It's like we are
directing them.
738
00:55:49,638 --> 00:55:52,015
You direct them in the way
you see suitable.
739
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:54,393
I can influence them
but I don't want to.
740
00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:56,562
I don't influence them
741
00:55:56,645 --> 00:56:00,524
I'm showing them the two ways.
here and there.
742
00:56:01,483 --> 00:56:03,735
When I took them to the Nakba
demonstration...
743
00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:07,239
They saw the gas and
the soldiers and the shots...
744
00:56:07,614 --> 00:56:10,617
From the other hand,
I show them the other way.
745
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:12,327
There are
peaceful demonstration.
746
00:56:12,452 --> 00:56:15,539
What you showed them
in the Day of Nakba
747
00:56:15,706 --> 00:56:17,666
-is the reality! Honestly.
-OK.
748
00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:21,044
Right? that is our reality,
The shots and all that...
749
00:56:21,628 --> 00:56:25,132
Those people, who are coming,
the few people...
750
00:56:25,632 --> 00:56:28,510
-How many of them?
-They are not few.
751
00:56:28,594 --> 00:56:31,805
Whatever, they come and say
we want the peace,
752
00:56:31,888 --> 00:56:35,851
we are good people, and we are
demonstrating with you...
753
00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:37,436
But he stays in my land.
754
00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:41,106
It's like they invade our house
755
00:56:41,273 --> 00:56:43,692
and took it from us, and gave
us the bathroom to live in,
756
00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:45,986
under their conditions,
757
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:48,113
and then they say to us,
"Come we want peace"!
758
00:56:48,196 --> 00:56:49,615
That's not right.
759
00:56:49,698 --> 00:56:52,576
Those guys refused to serve
in the Israeli army.
760
00:56:52,743 --> 00:56:56,163
All their activities in
West Bank against settlements
761
00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:59,958
and the wall, all the things
they are doing...
762
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:02,419
Good, how many settlement
they prevented?
763
00:57:02,502 --> 00:57:05,881
Look, they did not prevent any
settlement, Mahmoud Abbas...
764
00:57:05,964 --> 00:57:09,384
himself couldn't prevent any
settlement. But at least tried.
765
00:57:09,468 --> 00:57:11,303
They have a great power,
766
00:57:11,553 --> 00:57:14,890
and a few "Combatants
for peace" who refused to serve
767
00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:16,934
-are gonna change that?
-Yes.
768
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:21,396
You read about Nelson Mandela,
one person changed a state.
769
00:57:21,647 --> 00:57:24,900
And changed the whole world,
and you know.
770
00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:28,737
that he is only one, how
could one person do that?
771
00:57:29,738 --> 00:57:32,324
How could he?
and Gandhi also.
772
00:57:32,491 --> 00:57:34,493
What did all these people do?
773
00:57:34,576 --> 00:57:35,953
It's a waste of time.
774
00:57:36,036 --> 00:57:39,081
In order to improve our life,
and my children's...
775
00:57:39,206 --> 00:57:41,458
and grand children's life,
things must go that way.
776
00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:45,712
We tried two uprisings,
the first and the second
777
00:57:46,171 --> 00:57:49,716
and all the achievements of
the Palestinian
people decrease.
778
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,552
In the end they want
to make two states,
779
00:57:54,262 --> 00:57:56,848
Israeli state on the
Palestinian land.
780
00:57:56,932 --> 00:57:58,809
-And?
-And what is our share?
781
00:57:58,892 --> 00:58:00,602
-22%.
-From the Palestinian land?
782
00:58:00,686 --> 00:58:03,855
22%, the answer is clear.
783
00:58:03,939 --> 00:58:05,190
Yes.
784
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:07,943
How you converted...
785
00:58:08,402 --> 00:58:10,821
from a young man spent his life
in the prisons,
786
00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:14,366
and you fight against
the occupation and all that,
787
00:58:14,449 --> 00:58:18,120
and your brother is martyr,
and your mother (RIP) was...
788
00:58:18,203 --> 00:58:19,913
known as freedom fighter,
789
00:58:20,455 --> 00:58:23,542
to the opposite completely.
790
00:58:23,625 --> 00:58:25,377
That is what provokes me.
791
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,879
I participated
in the first uprising,
792
00:58:28,046 --> 00:58:30,298
-there are people who did.
-I did everything.
793
00:58:30,382 --> 00:58:34,428
-More than you and still are.
-They did not despair but...
794
00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:37,639
And they did not cooperate
with Israelis.
795
00:58:37,723 --> 00:58:40,726
But they did not make
any changes.
796
00:58:40,809 --> 00:58:43,562
But if the resistance
was really peaceful...
797
00:58:43,645 --> 00:58:44,688
My aunt kept telling you...
798
00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:46,732
"No right is lost as long as
someone strives to claim it."
799
00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:49,901
That's right. And who told you
that I waived my rights.
800
00:58:50,110 --> 00:58:54,656
If I shut up and didn't do
a thing then
I waived my rights.
801
00:58:55,032 --> 00:58:59,286
Those people who say,
"normalization"...
802
00:58:59,369 --> 00:59:02,080
who don't fight at the
settlement
803
00:59:02,164 --> 00:59:04,416
or on the land that was
seized by Jews...
804
00:59:04,499 --> 00:59:08,336
or at the Wall, those
who gave up their rights,
805
00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:10,213
the ones who keep silent.
806
00:59:10,297 --> 00:59:11,590
No, they preserve
their dignities.
807
00:59:11,673 --> 00:59:12,924
No, they are not.
808
00:59:13,425 --> 00:59:16,303
Sitting home silent is not
preserving dignity.
809
00:59:16,636 --> 00:59:18,055
That's all.
810
00:59:21,016 --> 00:59:23,310
-And you?
-What?
811
00:59:23,477 --> 00:59:27,064
What do you think? you want
to go with your father?
812
00:59:28,899 --> 00:59:31,234
If Dana goes I go.
813
00:59:34,404 --> 00:59:36,323
[praying in Arabic]
814
00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:48,210
[chattering]
815
00:59:58,887 --> 01:00:00,806
Where to go?
816
01:00:01,807 --> 01:00:02,808
OK, no problem.
817
01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:07,979
They informed now
that there is army in the area,
818
01:00:08,105 --> 01:00:11,358
and that is disrupting
all we are preparing.
819
01:00:11,483 --> 01:00:15,320
We are working on
the element of surprise
820
01:00:15,487 --> 01:00:18,156
for whoever exit in the area.
821
01:00:29,668 --> 01:00:31,586
Two, Peter's wife. So, I say,
we have assembled today,
822
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:37,884
the United Nations, to discuss
tabled proposal, to recognize
823
01:00:38,218 --> 01:00:42,681
the State of Palestine,
824
01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:44,850
or to reject it.
825
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:49,521
26 years ago, the late
president Yasser Arafat went
826
01:00:49,604 --> 01:00:53,775
to the UN to ask them to vote
for the Palestinian state.
827
01:00:54,234 --> 01:00:57,070
Unfortunately,
the voting did not pass
828
01:00:57,195 --> 01:00:59,865
Today we're gonna meet
next to the Wall
829
01:00:59,990 --> 01:01:02,534
to make the voting again.
830
01:01:05,954 --> 01:01:09,166
[Avner]
I look at these walls
and I'm thinking,
831
01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:14,838
these walls perpetuate
the fears that generated
them to begin with.
832
01:01:18,175 --> 01:01:21,761
[Chen]
The thing that separates us
is a metaphor as well.
833
01:01:21,845 --> 01:01:25,640
It's a symbol of our will
to be together.
834
01:01:25,724 --> 01:01:27,601
And we are going to use it.
835
01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:08,350
Israelis arrive at the fence
from the west.
836
01:02:12,646 --> 01:02:15,023
The Palestinians come
from the east.
837
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:22,614
We simply go forward and meet
up together at the fence.
838
01:02:28,453 --> 01:02:31,373
[whistling]
839
01:02:38,922 --> 01:02:40,966
[whistling continues]
840
01:02:47,973 --> 01:02:50,267
We have assembled here today,
the United Nations.
841
01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:53,478
to discuss the proposal to
either accept or reject the
842
01:02:53,728 --> 01:02:56,523
proposed Palestinian State.
843
01:02:57,148 --> 01:02:58,441
-Russia?
-Yes
844
01:02:58,566 --> 01:02:59,901
[cheering]
845
01:02:59,985 --> 01:03:01,194
-Sweden?
-Yes!
846
01:03:01,278 --> 01:03:03,113
[cheering]
847
01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,823
-Holland?
-Yes!
848
01:03:06,366 --> 01:03:08,285
We need yes to ourselves as
well, since the burden of the
849
01:03:08,868 --> 01:03:12,914
military government is ours,
not just the world's.
850
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:15,458
[woman]
Israel.
851
01:03:18,128 --> 01:03:19,462
[woman]
Israel?
852
01:03:22,299 --> 01:03:23,550
[woman]
Israel.
853
01:03:27,512 --> 01:03:29,139
[cheering]
854
01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:40,984
[blows whistle]
855
01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:48,158
[cheering]
856
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:05,467
No!
857
01:04:07,886 --> 01:04:09,304
[explosion]
858
01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:13,767
Why have you started
the violence? Why?
859
01:04:16,144 --> 01:04:17,395
Move away from the fence.
860
01:04:17,479 --> 01:04:20,607
We're away from the fence.
861
01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:24,736
No to violent extremism.
862
01:04:28,031 --> 01:04:31,201
[chanting continues]
863
01:04:34,829 --> 01:04:38,708
Take note of the source
of the violence.
864
01:04:38,792 --> 01:04:43,171
Two non-violent sides, Israelis
and Palestinians, who wish
865
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:48,218
to be together. And see who are
trapped between the fences.
866
01:04:49,636 --> 01:04:52,138
[Chen]
All of a sudden they seem
to me like prisoners.
867
01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:55,350
That they are trapped
in this space,
868
01:04:55,433 --> 01:05:00,355
forced to play their role,
and imprisoned in violence
and hatred.
869
01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:02,357
We invite the security forces
to remove their uniforms
870
01:05:02,524 --> 01:05:06,319
and to join us.
871
01:05:06,528 --> 01:05:07,695
[cheering]
872
01:05:07,779 --> 01:05:09,239
[whistling]
873
01:05:09,322 --> 01:05:11,449
[Chen]
We always keep
a door open to--
874
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:14,911
that there is an alternative
to what you are doing now.
875
01:05:14,994 --> 01:05:18,623
We believe
in transformation.
876
01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:21,876
And we believe that
transformation can occur,
877
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,506
even in these radical
or extreme situations
of violence.
878
01:05:26,589 --> 01:05:28,174
Because it happened to us.
879
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:36,558
Do you remember
the day they arrested me?
880
01:05:36,641 --> 01:05:37,976
When I went to prison?
881
01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:39,227
Of course.
882
01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:41,813
You and me were here,
in the kitchen. right?
883
01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:43,857
You were 6 years old,
and I told you,
884
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:46,317
"Today I am going
to do a suicide attack."
885
01:05:46,401 --> 01:05:49,070
I can't understand how
you got the nerve to tell me.
886
01:05:49,404 --> 01:05:51,364
Because you are my friend.
887
01:05:51,573 --> 01:05:53,450
I know that,
888
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:55,869
I don't know how I let you.
889
01:05:56,327 --> 01:05:59,414
You were a child,
you didn't realize.
890
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:02,792
If you came today to tell that
though you're not gonna do it,
891
01:06:02,876 --> 01:06:04,919
I'll shoot you.
892
01:06:23,771 --> 01:06:26,232
[chattering]
893
01:06:27,358 --> 01:06:29,027
OK, check the height.
894
01:06:31,779 --> 01:06:33,031
-Is this right height?
-Yes.
895
01:06:37,368 --> 01:06:40,872
We'll need four-five signs to
show the places are saved.
896
01:06:42,332 --> 01:06:43,541
[chattering]
897
01:07:22,664 --> 01:07:23,706
[coughs]
898
01:07:29,254 --> 01:07:30,922
Okay.
899
01:07:33,091 --> 01:07:35,927
There are so many people.
900
01:07:36,010 --> 01:07:38,096
It's the hardest day
for the Israeli people
901
01:07:38,179 --> 01:07:41,599
And in this day we decided...
902
01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:44,852
As combatants for peace
from the Palestinians side
903
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:48,523
and the Israeli side
to Commemorate the memorial
904
01:07:48,606 --> 01:07:51,192
of the dead on both sides.
905
01:07:56,406 --> 01:07:58,616
Peace upon you.
906
01:07:58,700 --> 01:08:02,912
My name is Jami Kasos, from the
Dehaysha refugee camp.
907
01:08:03,871 --> 01:08:05,331
Welcome, Jamil.
908
01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:09,168
I am Meital Lokov
from Jerusalem.
909
01:08:10,795 --> 01:08:14,173
We have gathered here together,
Israelis and Palestinians,
this evening
910
01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:19,762
to remember that we're all
the victims of the dispute and
also its perpetrators.
911
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:22,849
This year
we paid a heavy price.
912
01:08:23,016 --> 01:08:25,893
More Palestinians and Israelis
913
01:08:25,977 --> 01:08:28,396
joined the groups
of bereavement and loss.
914
01:08:28,896 --> 01:08:31,149
And we talk about
the next war
915
01:08:31,274 --> 01:08:34,319
as if it's inevitable.
916
01:08:34,527 --> 01:08:37,655
Hence we are the ones have to
break the circle of violence.
917
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,158
We were moved to received
a message of peace and hope
918
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,703
from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
919
01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:49,876
Dear friends,
Palestinian and Israeli,
920
01:08:49,959 --> 01:08:53,129
if change seems impossible,
921
01:08:53,212 --> 01:08:57,884
consider our experience
in South Africa.
922
01:08:57,967 --> 01:09:02,263
Our peaceful transformation
did not fall out of the sky.
923
01:09:02,347 --> 01:09:07,060
Our peace was the choice
of so called ordinary people.
924
01:09:07,143 --> 01:09:11,481
People just like you and me.
925
01:09:11,564 --> 01:09:15,526
You and you and you
and me.
926
01:09:15,610 --> 01:09:17,862
Do remember,
927
01:09:17,945 --> 01:09:22,200
we are members
of one family.
928
01:09:22,283 --> 01:09:26,621
The human family.
God's family.
929
01:09:26,704 --> 01:09:29,499
All of us.
930
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:31,959
[applause]
931
01:09:38,216 --> 01:09:41,511
There are limits to the amount
of time and effort
932
01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:44,013
that the United States
can spend,
933
01:09:44,097 --> 01:09:48,184
if the parties themselves
are unwilling to take
constructive steps
934
01:09:48,267 --> 01:09:49,435
in order to be able
to move forward.
935
01:09:56,442 --> 01:09:58,569
The choice
is up to Mr. Netanyahu.
936
01:09:58,653 --> 01:10:02,865
Either he makes an agreement
with his coalition,
settlers, or with us.
937
01:10:02,949 --> 01:10:06,869
Abbas has to decide
whether he wants
a pact with Hamas,
938
01:10:06,953 --> 01:10:08,663
or peace with Israel.
939
01:10:08,746 --> 01:10:10,790
He can't have both.
He cannot continue
940
01:10:10,873 --> 01:10:14,752
with this behavior
of settlement activities
and then speak about peace.
941
01:10:14,836 --> 01:10:17,255
He cannot speak out of both
sides of his mouth.
942
01:10:17,338 --> 01:10:19,006
He cannot embrace Hamas
943
01:10:19,090 --> 01:10:21,050
and say that he wants
peace with Israel.
944
01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:28,474
[Chen]
It's like a script.
945
01:10:28,558 --> 01:10:30,810
You see the declarations
on both sides,
946
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:33,813
you know what is going
to happen next...
947
01:10:35,523 --> 01:10:37,316
And it's heartbreaking.
948
01:10:45,366 --> 01:10:47,326
Here's your ball, Maya.
949
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:51,164
[man on tv]
Messi today is showing...
950
01:10:54,041 --> 01:10:55,710
[switches channel]
951
01:10:55,793 --> 01:10:57,837
Five years after "Cast Lead"
and barely two years since
952
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,799
"Pillar of Cloud" Israel again
begins an operation in Gaza
953
01:11:01,966 --> 01:11:05,553
"Operation Protective Edge" is
its name. For the first time
954
01:11:05,845 --> 01:11:08,055
Tel Aviv is in the range of
missiles fire.
955
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:12,268
And here are the rest of
the headlines.
956
01:11:13,728 --> 01:11:15,730
Here we go again.
957
01:11:15,813 --> 01:11:17,648
Another round...
958
01:11:21,527 --> 01:11:25,698
And a whole new reservoir
of people
959
01:11:25,782 --> 01:11:27,700
whose lives
are going to be ruined,
960
01:11:27,784 --> 01:11:29,952
and many of them
are gonna participate
961
01:11:30,036 --> 01:11:31,496
in the next rounds
of violence.
962
01:11:31,579 --> 01:11:33,498
[distant explosion]
963
01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:43,966
[screams]
964
01:11:48,471 --> 01:11:50,264
[siren blares]
965
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:01,442
[explosions on TV]
966
01:12:13,955 --> 01:12:17,458
The result of this continuous
bombing from the air
967
01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:21,212
was 6 killed
and 15 other wounded.
968
01:12:21,295 --> 01:12:25,216
More than 20 casualty
recently...
969
01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:27,426
At least nine terrorists
have infiltrated into Israel
970
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:31,138
through the tunnel. They were
carrying zip ties and sedatives
971
01:12:31,264 --> 01:12:36,435
and they were planning to
kidnap civilians back to Gaza.
972
01:12:38,521 --> 01:12:40,147
Look...
973
01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:43,651
Alshujayia massacre, news about
more than 60 martyr till now
974
01:12:43,734 --> 01:12:45,736
What you can tell
the people?
975
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:47,405
The Jewish
and the Palestinian,
976
01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:49,073
where they can
make together peace,
977
01:12:49,156 --> 01:12:51,033
or they can sit
or they can talk.
978
01:12:51,117 --> 01:12:54,829
With nonviolence
we can resist.
979
01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,164
Who can believe you?
980
01:13:00,501 --> 01:13:03,296
And what will happen,
Israel will say, "I win,"
981
01:13:03,379 --> 01:13:06,173
and Hamas will say,
"I win,"
982
01:13:06,257 --> 01:13:08,551
but 1,000 people
have been killed
983
01:13:08,634 --> 01:13:12,430
and 10,000 people
are in hospitals.
984
01:13:12,513 --> 01:13:15,641
And I am sure
that it will not stop here.
985
01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:25,860
[Avner]
All that we have done
is drown by a wave
986
01:13:25,943 --> 01:13:30,656
that is a thousand times
bigger than us.
987
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:35,995
Soon, it's gonna
be a challenge just
to keep standing
988
01:13:36,078 --> 01:13:41,125
with every single person
around us advising us
not to talk.
989
01:13:41,208 --> 01:13:43,419
Not when people
are getting killed.
990
01:13:46,964 --> 01:13:49,634
Expect only the war and
destruction and the dead
991
01:13:49,717 --> 01:13:52,470
and the circle of the violence
start all over again...
992
01:13:52,929 --> 01:13:55,431
Even the people who believed
in the idea of the peace
993
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,934
they started to doubt it.
994
01:14:01,228 --> 01:14:02,939
[Chen]
The first tendency
is to quit,
995
01:14:03,022 --> 01:14:04,607
to put a blanket
on my head
996
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:08,027
and to wait
that it will be over.
997
01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:12,365
And then something happens
and I get a phone call
from a Palestinian friend
998
01:14:12,448 --> 01:14:15,409
and only from that
I get the energy.
999
01:14:17,495 --> 01:14:19,538
Any one wants to speak?
Go ahead.
1000
01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:21,874
First of all,
Good evening to everyone,
1001
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,837
With the last war,
it became very difficult
1002
01:14:26,921 --> 01:14:29,090
especially
on the Palestinian side,
1003
01:14:29,173 --> 01:14:31,509
All the factions
in the same position
1004
01:14:31,592 --> 01:14:34,261
and there was no deference
in such matters.
1005
01:14:34,804 --> 01:14:38,766
They consider even the dealing
with the Israelis is...
1006
01:14:38,849 --> 01:14:42,603
not Normalization, we reached
a new phase which is...
1007
01:14:42,687 --> 01:14:45,106
Treason.
1008
01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:52,780
The major opinion in Israel
is that the Hamas is to blame.
1009
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,118
What bothers me the most is how
to explain to both the Israelis
1010
01:14:57,201 --> 01:15:00,162
and the Palestinians that there
are people on the other side.
1011
01:15:00,538 --> 01:15:03,165
It's hard to talk about two
sides as being symmetric
1012
01:15:03,791 --> 01:15:07,211
since it's easy for them
to look upon Gaza
1013
01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:11,048
we do not see another version.
1014
01:15:11,132 --> 01:15:13,384
We must see another story.
1015
01:15:13,634 --> 01:15:16,846
We see the horrible fear
in the people of Tel Aviv
1016
01:15:17,096 --> 01:15:19,765
during the sirens.
1017
01:15:19,849 --> 01:15:21,934
Even when there is suffering
on any level
1018
01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:26,981
it needs to be addressed.
1019
01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:29,233
People can get frustrated,
and that is understood,
1020
01:15:29,316 --> 01:15:31,610
But in times of crises
1021
01:15:31,694 --> 01:15:33,821
we should raise our voices,
1022
01:15:33,904 --> 01:15:37,533
Our role is to get out
and make a deferent impression
1023
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:41,370
through refusing
the violence and the war...
1024
01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,374
and by sticking to our beliefs
1025
01:15:45,541 --> 01:15:48,627
the nonviolent beliefs
proudly...
1026
01:15:50,796 --> 01:15:52,715
-Friends, this coming Saturday,
-Yes.
1027
01:15:52,923 --> 01:15:56,302
There will be a demonstration.
We plan to bring to
1028
01:15:56,927 --> 01:16:00,139
the demonstration tens
of participants...
1029
01:16:35,674 --> 01:16:37,593
-You got a small head.
-Only on the outside.
1030
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,137
What's inside won't come out.
[laughing]
1031
01:16:48,646 --> 01:16:50,397
[chattering]
1032
01:17:06,539 --> 01:17:08,541
You are terrorists!
1033
01:17:12,878 --> 01:17:15,422
Terrorists!
1034
01:17:15,798 --> 01:17:18,425
It is not easy to be considered
traitor in the eyes
1035
01:17:19,009 --> 01:17:24,807
of people who are important to
you, like family and friends.
1036
01:17:25,099 --> 01:17:28,018
You are terrorists!
1037
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:41,532
They are haters of Israel and
should be put in jail.
1038
01:17:42,366 --> 01:17:45,327
We need to kick them out of the
State of Israel.
1039
01:17:45,578 --> 01:17:48,789
They are causing damage to the
State of Israel,
1040
01:17:48,956 --> 01:17:52,418
soldiers are being killed and
these shits are demonstrating
1041
01:17:52,668 --> 01:17:58,132
against Israel, my country.
1042
01:17:58,549 --> 01:17:59,800
[Avner]
We are patriots,
1043
01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:01,969
but patriotism does not mean
1044
01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:06,223
that we stand for everything
our government does.
1045
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:08,392
On the contrary,
I'm critical
1046
01:18:08,475 --> 01:18:12,104
because I want
to stay here in Israel
and raise my children here.
1047
01:18:12,188 --> 01:18:15,274
[chanting]
1048
01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:23,032
JEWS AND ARABS REFUSE
TO BE ENEMIES
1049
01:18:24,533 --> 01:18:28,579
My name is Sulamain Katib.
1050
01:18:28,996 --> 01:18:30,915
I have come from Ramallah,
and I...
1051
01:18:40,216 --> 01:18:42,676
We, Palestinians and Israelis,
all together for both sides,
1052
01:18:42,801 --> 01:18:45,012
to act bravely and wisely
to stop the fighting Gaza,
1053
01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:48,933
and to immediately begin a
serious dialog.
1054
01:18:49,016 --> 01:18:53,145
There is no military solution
1055
01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:56,649
for the conflict .
1056
01:18:56,941 --> 01:19:01,946
As participants in Combatants
for Peace are aware that the
1057
01:19:02,071 --> 01:19:04,573
twelve million people living
between the river and the sea
1058
01:19:04,657 --> 01:19:06,909
share a common destiny.
1059
01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:13,999
And that war is not part
of this destiny.
1060
01:19:14,458 --> 01:19:18,212
No rockets from Gaza, F-16's,
or iron domes will bring peace.
1061
01:19:19,964 --> 01:19:21,548
PEACE DEMONSTRATION
1062
01:19:21,674 --> 01:19:25,469
Peace must be based on the
1063
01:19:25,636 --> 01:19:27,846
security and independence...
1064
01:19:28,347 --> 01:19:30,057
STOP THE WAR PEACE AND
SECURITY NOT BY BLOODSHED
1065
01:19:30,182 --> 01:19:34,311
...of two states. Let us live
in peace and tranquility.
1066
01:19:35,187 --> 01:19:38,899
We shall not drive you away and
neither shall you succeed.
1067
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:42,695
We both need to get along
together in this land and to
1068
01:19:42,861 --> 01:19:46,740
get live together in peace and
in dignity for all.
1069
01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:48,826
Thank you very much.
1070
01:19:48,909 --> 01:19:51,829
[cheering]
1071
01:19:51,912 --> 01:19:54,164
[whistles blowing]
1072
01:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,549
[chanting]
1073
01:20:09,763 --> 01:20:11,765
[Avner]
We see it as
a long-distance run,
1074
01:20:11,849 --> 01:20:15,102
and we will continue
to go on with it.
1075
01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:29,783
God doesn't change people
until they change themselves.
1076
01:20:30,743 --> 01:20:32,661
Change starts from
within oneself.
1077
01:20:33,078 --> 01:20:35,956
Then this positive energy
effects others.
1078
01:20:42,463 --> 01:20:44,298
We succeed together
1079
01:20:44,381 --> 01:20:46,925
in turning a personal
transformation
1080
01:20:47,009 --> 01:20:50,304
into a transformation of
a large community.
1081
01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:55,476
[Chen]
I think that we are an example
of how these two people
1082
01:20:55,559 --> 01:20:59,855
can live together
and create together
and can disagree together.
1083
01:21:00,731 --> 01:21:02,941
We are proof
that it's doable.
1084
01:21:05,986 --> 01:21:07,905
Don't follow your leaders.
1085
01:21:08,530 --> 01:21:11,784
Challenge them
and create your own peace.
1086
01:21:12,576 --> 01:21:14,495
Israeli or Palestinian.
1087
01:21:14,912 --> 01:21:16,914
Create the peace
against their will.
1088
01:21:20,250 --> 01:21:23,587
I will never lose hope
that the peace...
1089
01:21:23,796 --> 01:21:27,758
Peace is the only answer.
There is no other way.
1090
01:21:29,593 --> 01:21:33,514
[Avner]
Because it is people
who make wars,
1091
01:21:33,597 --> 01:21:35,933
it is people who can stop wars
from happening.
1092
01:21:36,016 --> 01:21:39,019
It's not the weather.
We make it happen.
1093
01:21:39,103 --> 01:21:42,689
And it is us that can
put an end to it.
1094
01:21:51,115 --> 01:21:55,452
The narrative begins
with the man and his wife.
1095
01:21:56,036 --> 01:21:58,956
To his family,
to the large family.
1096
01:21:59,123 --> 01:22:03,001
To his village, to his city.
1097
01:22:03,127 --> 01:22:06,547
To his state,
to his religion.
1098
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:10,175
To his continent,
to the whole world.
1099
01:22:10,426 --> 01:22:13,303
Until you reach humanity.
1100
01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:18,434
And when we reach humanity,
1101
01:22:18,559 --> 01:22:23,647
believe me, our problem will be
solved faster than we think.
1102
01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:51,550
♪ One day I went walking ♪
1103
01:22:51,633 --> 01:22:54,303
♪ Down a lonesome road ♪
1104
01:22:54,386 --> 01:22:57,222
♪ And I came upon a stranger ♪
1105
01:22:57,306 --> 01:23:00,684
♪ In some funky clothes ♪
1106
01:23:00,767 --> 01:23:03,270
♪ He said he was a soldier ♪
1107
01:23:03,353 --> 01:23:06,398
♪ I said,
"Where's your gun?" ♪
1108
01:23:06,482 --> 01:23:09,568
♪ He said,
"I don't got no weapon" ♪
1109
01:23:09,651 --> 01:23:12,863
♪ "And I don't need one" ♪
1110
01:23:12,946 --> 01:23:15,532
♪ "I don't need no weapon" ♪
1111
01:23:15,616 --> 01:23:18,660
♪ "Because
I don't fight no war" ♪
1112
01:23:18,744 --> 01:23:21,663
♪ I said,
"Well then, Mr. Soldier" ♪
1113
01:23:21,747 --> 01:23:25,000
♪ "What you fighting for?" ♪
1114
01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:27,753
♪ Well,
He didn't say nothing ♪
1115
01:23:27,836 --> 01:23:31,215
♪ He just smiled at me ♪
1116
01:23:31,298 --> 01:23:34,468
♪ And then
I heard him whisper ♪
1117
01:23:34,551 --> 01:23:37,471
♪ "You shall be free" ♪
1118
01:23:59,034 --> 01:24:01,703
♪ Well, excuse me, mister ♪
1119
01:24:01,787 --> 01:24:05,082
♪ Are you saying
I ain't free? ♪
1120
01:24:05,165 --> 01:24:07,960
♪ Well, I don't see
No shackles ♪
1121
01:24:08,043 --> 01:24:10,671
♪ Or no chains on me ♪
1122
01:24:10,754 --> 01:24:14,132
♪ He said,
"We're chained to our hatred" ♪
1123
01:24:14,216 --> 01:24:17,427
♪ "And shackled by greed" ♪
1124
01:24:17,511 --> 01:24:20,430
♪ Too blind
To see the wonder ♪
1125
01:24:20,514 --> 01:24:23,267
♪ And mystery ♪
1126
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:26,395
♪ We got to love
One another ♪
1127
01:24:26,478 --> 01:24:29,439
♪ Give our love so strong ♪
1128
01:24:29,523 --> 01:24:32,442
♪ Love your brother man
Deeper ♪
1129
01:24:32,526 --> 01:24:35,779
♪ When he treats you wrong ♪
1130
01:24:35,862 --> 01:24:38,532
♪ When you love
Without limits ♪
1131
01:24:38,615 --> 01:24:41,785
♪ Unconditionally ♪
1132
01:24:41,868 --> 01:24:44,871
♪ When you love without fear ♪
1133
01:24:44,955 --> 01:24:48,083
♪ Then you shall be free ♪
1134
01:25:12,983 --> 01:25:15,861
♪ So, I pried
My heart open ♪
1135
01:25:15,944 --> 01:25:18,655
♪ As wide as the sea ♪
1136
01:25:18,739 --> 01:25:21,783
♪ And the strangest
Sensations ♪
1137
01:25:21,867 --> 01:25:24,828
♪ Came over me ♪
1138
01:25:24,911 --> 01:25:27,914
♪ I could see
The clouds dancing ♪
1139
01:25:27,998 --> 01:25:31,335
♪ Felt a raindrop sting ♪
1140
01:25:31,418 --> 01:25:34,087
♪ I could hear
The tiny beating ♪
1141
01:25:34,171 --> 01:25:37,174
♪ Of a butterfly wing ♪
1142
01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:40,010
♪ And as I sat
In the middle ♪
1143
01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:43,680
♪ I felt this love unfold ♪
1144
01:25:43,764 --> 01:25:46,224
♪ A love too big ♪
1145
01:25:46,308 --> 01:25:49,311
♪ For this body to hold ♪
1146
01:25:49,394 --> 01:25:52,773
♪ That day I became a warrior ♪
1147
01:25:52,856 --> 01:25:55,275
♪ With no enemy ♪
1148
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:58,695
♪ Now I am
That funky soldier ♪
1149
01:25:58,779 --> 01:26:01,990
♪ And I shall be free ♪
1150
01:26:11,083 --> 01:26:14,086
♪ I shall ♪
1151
01:26:14,169 --> 01:26:17,089
♪ I shall ♪
1152
01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:20,008
♪ Be free ♪
1153
01:26:23,345 --> 01:26:26,348
♪ I shall ♪
1154
01:26:26,431 --> 01:26:29,893
♪ I shall ♪