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The bill proposes to measure
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body mass index, BMI...
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That's what
we're doing here today,
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address the core
problems we face.
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And this is
a great move forward,
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so I support the bill.
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It's not like
I don't respect authority,
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or believe in our government,
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or trust the adults
who are in charge of us.
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We do hearing the objection
title that was agreed to.
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It's just that...
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Well, the past year
has changed the way
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I understand the world.
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Just one year ago,
I was a junior in high school,
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worrying about
doing my homework,
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looking forward to getting
my driver's license,
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and doing my best to fit in
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and make friends.
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And now, here I am
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in the middle
of a national controversy,
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in the personal debate
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with our public officials,
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all over the simplest thing
in the world,
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a number.
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But this isn't just any number.
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This number is special.
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To get it, you take one number,
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divide it by another
which has been squared,
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and then multiply that
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by seven hundred and three.
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The resulting number is, well,
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magic.
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This one number tells a story,
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a story about your past
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and even predicts your future.
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Obviously, a number
that holds this much power
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would be valuable.
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And this one is.
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So much so that some people
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try to keep their number secret
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for fear of what it might tell,
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while others don't believe
in the number at all.
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Then there are those,
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even in our own government,
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who believe in the
number's power so much
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that they fight
to gain access to yours,
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using the number
to determine whether or not
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you are acceptable.
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Yes, acceptable.
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Not my words.
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Theirs.
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But I'm getting ahead of myself.
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Maybe I should back up,
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you know, to the beginning.
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Or at least my beginning
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and to what brought me
to this point,
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fighting over a simple number.
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- Dum, dum, dum...
- Looking back,
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I kind of feel bad for what
I put my parents through.
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That's good, Bailey.
You having fun?
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No?
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Apparently, I wasn't a pleaser.
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Hello.
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When asked a question,
I would just grunt.
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I hated costumes
and school plays,
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despised being paraded around
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and refused to perform
for anyone.
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That's me right there
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at my first public protest
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at age four.
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Hugs were out of the question.
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No smiling for pictures.
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Yeah, here's an Easter
smile for you.
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Some friends even gave
my parents a book
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called the strong-
willed child.
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I guess, it was supposed
to teach them
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how to deal with me
or something.
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This is where I live,
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a small, historic town in Ohio.
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After school, we can walk
down main street,
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pass the old garage,
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pass the church on the corner,
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and hang out
at the ice cream parlor,
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which is right across the street
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from the gun shop.
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Yup, it doesn't get
any more American
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than this.
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And this is my high school,
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where I was taught that we have
the greatest government
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in the world.
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This is also where I learned to,
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well, behave.
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Remember that
strong-willed child
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who was always making a fuss?
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She eventually became
the soft-spoken, polite kid
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that barely anyone notices.
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I pretty much keep to myself,
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stay out of trouble,
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and never, ever
question authority.
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That is until last year
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when a bunch of us students
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decided to stage a protest.
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There was friction
between the new school board
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and our principal,
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so the board decided
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to promote him
right out of his job.
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But us students
weren't having it.
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Our top story today.
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High school students
dressed in black
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storm the school board meeting
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in which their beloved
principal was voted out
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and removed from his position.
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This was the first time
that I've ever held
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a protest sign
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or chanted on a public official.
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Principal and instead...
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I had my first
taste of democracy
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and it tasted great.
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Are more likely
to succeed in this group...
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In the end,
the board backed down
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and our principal kept his job.
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It was then that I realized
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that even kids
have a powerful voice,
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and I think
I was finding mine again.
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When asked,
school officials did admit
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that the outpouring
of support had an effect
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on the decision made tonight.
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Reporting live in Springboro,
Holly Samuels, 2 news.
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This feeling of empowerment
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must have been contagious
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because a month later,
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at another school board meeting,
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a sixth-grader named Maddie
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bravely addressed
the board all alone.
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But this time,
it was about something
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more disturbing.
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I also received a letter
from the school nurse
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addressed to me.
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As I read the letter,
I was crushed,
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discovered the school
is telling me
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that was not the healthy way.
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Apparently, the school
district have been performing
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body mass index test
on our students
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and then sent letters
out to kids
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whose number didn't fall
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within an acceptable range.
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I felt betrayed by the school
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because I could fit
in to the school's idea
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of what a kid should be.
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Schools always supposed
to be a safe place,
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somewhere I could feel accepted,
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proud of my accomplishments,
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and not put down.
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I'm active in sports
and have a healthy...
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This girl was inspirational.
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The board promptly apologized
for the mistake
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and the moment was just magical.
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And while Maddie got the apology
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she was looking for,
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it made me wonder.
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Was this really a mistake?
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I mean, this letter
didn't mail itself.
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And how many other students
got these letters?
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Was that a mistake, too?
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Do they get apologies?
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To everyone else,
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it seemed like the issue
had been resolved,
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but this only raised
more questions for me.
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Carrots, bell peppers,
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these are tomatoes over here.
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And over here, we've got
some asparagus starting,
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which is our favorite vegetable.
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Back there is cucumbers.
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Which is my favorite vegetable.
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And we've got some
herbs back there.
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And we're trying to do this
without any chemicals
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or any fillers,
just water and sun.
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- That's it.
- No bug spray.
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- No bug spray, no nothing.
- No fertilizer.
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As you may know, I'm a chef
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and she's in the food
business as well,
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so we're both pretty
knowledgeable of nutrition
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and this was kind of an idea
I've been wanting to have
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in my own yard,
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but also something
that we had talked about
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with the school board.
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Maybe doing a garden,
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have the students
in summertime co-op
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and have their own vegetables
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for their salad bar
at school, you know.
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Teach children something
that they can take away,
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and carry within the rest...
Because it tastes so much better
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when you know
you've done the work
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to get it there, so, um...
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It's amazing to think
that a family like this
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received a notice
about health and nutrition.
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Later that day,
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Maddie told me
about her own struggles.
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Um, uh, my condition
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is human growth
hormone disorder.
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Uh, that means I can't
grow like a normal child
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and I can't lose weight, so...
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And I can't grow teeth
and I'm very slow
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and, like, that whole process.
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In spite of her condition,
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Maddie was getting along
just fine at school,
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until one day in gym class.
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Nurses, I guess from the state,
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came and weighed us
and measured us
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and it really
made me uncomfortable
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because there's another child
in there too with you.
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So I mean, it just, like,
really made me feel awkward
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and I really didn't wanna do it.
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Did they give you a choice?
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No, they made us do it.
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What Maddie didn't realize
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is that the district
was actually grading students
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on something more
than just academics.
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And here was my report card.
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Then I found this letter
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or what's left of it anyways.
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And it basically says
that, you know,
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I'm high in my weight
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and I ripped it up
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and I threw it in the trashcan.
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She got the mail that day
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and opened up her report card
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with great anticipation
of receiving money
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from her good grades
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and she didn't wanna talk to me,
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so she ran to her room
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and locked herself upstairs,
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so then I went
to the garbage can
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and found that she had shredded
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part of what came in the mail
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and it was the letter
from the district.
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My mom found it
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and pieced all the pieces
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that she could find together.
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But obviously,
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not the letter was found.
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I felt like I wasn't accepted
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in the society, basically.
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I could never think about
anything else at that time.
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I could always think
about how I'm a disappointment
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to everyone.
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The children
that received that letter,
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they'll remember that
the rest of their lives.
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They will remember, um,
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how nice or sweet the school
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tried to make it sound.
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They'll remember
that the school said,
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"you don't fit in.
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"You are different.
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"You are not acceptable
at what you're doing now
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and that something
needs to change."
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So essentially,
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if they received it
for being underweight,
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they're too skinny.
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If they received it
for being overweight,
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the school is essentially
saying, "you're too fat."
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Um, those are words
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and that's a moment and time
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that these children
will never forget,
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um, and that is a shame.
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Sorry.
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So, in life, you hold on
to those things.
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And so, it's hard
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when it's your kid.
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At the time,
I was really mad at the nurse
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because her name was signed.
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But then, the nurse
met with my mom
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and she told, um, her
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that she had to send it
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and she didn't have a choice to,
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so I just felt
really sorry for her
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and I wished that that never
happened to her either
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because I mean, how much pain
that put her through,
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and it's something
she deserved for that.
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Nobody seemed to know
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where the letter started,
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why it went out in the mail.
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I mean, how does
a letter like this go out
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and no one know about it?
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It just isn't possible.
286
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Well, someone has to know
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where these letters came from,
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so I setup an appointment
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with one of our school
board members
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who also happens to be
a nutritionist,
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college professor,
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and doctor.
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I'm a dietitian
whose private practice
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is centered around
weight management
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and eating disorders.
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So, I was absolutely alarmed
that that went out
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because you can't talk
to kids that way.
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That's the whole wrong approach.
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I was glad to hear
that someone else
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thought that these letters
were a bad idea,
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but I wanted to know
who was responsible,
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so I went to the president
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of the school board.
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I don't think anybody
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may have known
about it until that night
306
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that she came and spoke.
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The way those letters
are generated
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is a state of Ohio
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mandates that every school
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conducting every child a BMI
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or a, uh, body mass index
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to, uh, to see where they fall.
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This is sounding more sinister
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than I thought.
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State lawmakers
are forcing our schools
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to do BMI testing on us
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to determine our health?
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Is that BMI
is an indicator of something,
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but is it the most important
piece of information
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about that student's health?
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It's not even in the top five.
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So I'd say
it's really not a value.
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Well, that's good to hear
324
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because lots of students
feel the same way.
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But we're still forced
to step up on the scales,
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so I decided to bring
my own scale
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and mandate a BMI test
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for every adult
that I interview.
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Your height.
My height?
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Uh-hmm.
Uh-oh. I'm five-six.
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Five-six.
Uh-hmm.
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I already know what mine is.
333
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It used to be 19.
Can I use that one?
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Sure.
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Not surprisingly,
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she didn't go for it.
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No, not after age 30,
I wouldn't.
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I mean, kids
that too, wouldn't they?
339
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No, no. I agree. I agree.
Yeah.
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It would've been,
you know, as a teenager,
341
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it would've been
very private for me, too.
342
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Uh-hmm.
I would not have appreciated it.
343
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I was told that kids
were weighed in gym class
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and they weren't given a choice.
345
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Would it surprise you
that many of these kids
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felt uncomfortable about this?
347
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Well, sure.
348
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I mean, nobody likes to be,
349
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uh, tested, put on the spot.
350
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But I think people
need to understand
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where they fall on the scale
352
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and how they're doing as related
353
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to the rest of the population.
354
00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:42,821
Well, I'm glad you say that
because I'm doing
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my own BMI test.
356
00:13:45,192 --> 00:13:47,659
Uh, would you mind stepping
on the scale for me?
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00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:55,366
Um, oh, boy.
358
00:13:55,368 --> 00:13:56,501
I probably...
I probably should,
359
00:13:56,503 --> 00:13:58,169
but I prefer not to.
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Apparently, I don't have
the same mandate power
361
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,773
that the state has.
362
00:14:01,775 --> 00:14:03,608
To be given a choice,
363
00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:04,709
would you like that?
364
00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:05,777
You're good.
365
00:14:05,779 --> 00:14:07,111
Um...
366
00:14:07,113 --> 00:14:08,279
As it turns out,
367
00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:10,281
the board president was right.
368
00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:13,585
Two years ago, state lawmakers
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introduced senate bill 210,
370
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:18,189
which mostly
addressed improvements
371
00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:20,325
and diet and exercise
in our schools.
372
00:14:20,327 --> 00:14:23,161
Our healthy choices
for healthy children website.
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00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:24,529
And with a name like
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healthy choices for healthy
children's act,
375
00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:29,100
it would be political suicide
376
00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:30,802
to vote against it.
377
00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:31,903
Maybe that's how
378
00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:34,138
this one little
controversial item
379
00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,506
made its way into the bill.
380
00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:37,308
The bill proposes to measure
381
00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:39,310
body mass index, BMI,
382
00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:42,981
on school entry
in grades k3, 5, and 9.
383
00:14:42,983 --> 00:14:44,749
And that's when the discussion
384
00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:46,184
got interesting.
385
00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,419
To say that our schools
386
00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,855
are gonna body mass index
387
00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:52,523
little kindergarten students
388
00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:53,992
and third graders.
389
00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:56,461
Taking people's
body mass indexes,
390
00:14:56,463 --> 00:14:57,962
I personally
find that offensive.
391
00:14:57,964 --> 00:15:00,331
This is a national
security crisis
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00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,166
for the United States.
393
00:15:02,168 --> 00:15:05,336
Make our people better,
thinner, stronger
394
00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,871
so we can wage wars
395
00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,740
and fight the battles
that need to be fought.
396
00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,608
If you pick up an apple
and you eat it,
397
00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,744
you know, their hunger
may go away.
398
00:15:12,746 --> 00:15:14,913
Give me Liberty, give me death.
399
00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:16,681
Two hundred thirty years ago
the English,
400
00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:17,949
now it's about a twinkie.
401
00:15:17,951 --> 00:15:20,084
You must have went swimming
over the holiday weekend
402
00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:21,386
and hit your head
on the diving board.
403
00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:23,554
When I was in the marine corps,
404
00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:24,923
you get your rear end kicked
405
00:15:24,925 --> 00:15:26,157
if you're not in shape.
406
00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,059
It's kind of like
boiling a frog.
407
00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:30,728
Slowly up the temperature
five or ten degrees
408
00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:33,097
until the flesh
falls off the frog.
409
00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:35,133
Or you stand
and fill sand buckets
410
00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:37,168
until you lose 20 pounds.
411
00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:38,569
Maybe mom and dad
412
00:15:38,571 --> 00:15:40,238
ought to take these folks...
413
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,773
Okay. Wait.
414
00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:44,342
Everybody calm down.
415
00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,644
What is BMI anyway?
416
00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:48,313
BMI was created
417
00:15:48,315 --> 00:15:50,548
back in the early 1800s
418
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:52,884
by a Belgian researcher
named Quetelet,
419
00:15:52,886 --> 00:15:54,886
and he was a man
of many interests.
420
00:15:54,888 --> 00:15:56,054
He was a mathematician,
421
00:15:56,056 --> 00:15:57,722
he was an astronomer,
422
00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:59,757
and he did some work, um,
423
00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,659
analyzing body measurements
424
00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,762
and he came up
with a calculation,
425
00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,732
weight over height squared.
426
00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:10,535
It's calculated
using kilograms for weight
427
00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:11,936
and meters for height.
428
00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:13,638
In the United States, however,
429
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,106
we typically record measures
430
00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:17,475
in pounds and in inches.
431
00:16:17,477 --> 00:16:20,478
Um, as a result,
there's a simple calculation
432
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,914
that can be used and that's, um,
433
00:16:22,916 --> 00:16:25,083
weight over height squared
434
00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:27,151
times 703.
435
00:16:27,153 --> 00:16:29,320
And the result is a...
Is an index
436
00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:30,788
which we call body mass index
437
00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:32,290
which is an indicator
438
00:16:32,292 --> 00:16:36,127
of linearity or thickness.
439
00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:37,962
I'm Dr. Stefan Czerwinski,
440
00:16:37,964 --> 00:16:40,631
I'm the director
of the Fels longitudinal study
441
00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:42,600
which is the longest
running study
442
00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:44,936
of growth development and aging
443
00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:46,404
in the world.
444
00:16:46,406 --> 00:16:49,540
Uh, the study has been
around since 1929
445
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:50,908
and we continue to collect
446
00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:52,977
body composition data
on children
447
00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:54,679
over their lifespan.
448
00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,782
So we use BMI
as an indicator of obesity
449
00:16:57,784 --> 00:17:00,351
or what we often call adiposity.
450
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,020
We also use other measures
451
00:17:02,022 --> 00:17:04,756
that describe that even better
452
00:17:04,758 --> 00:17:05,957
in adults.
453
00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,825
We know that
their issues with BMI
454
00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:10,895
just in regard to athletes.
455
00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:13,664
And children in particular, uh,
456
00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:16,968
growth in boys over adolescence,
457
00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:20,438
um, what you're gonna see
is higher BMls
458
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,608
due to muscle,
not because of fat.
459
00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:25,943
And I think most researchers
agree with the fact
460
00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,212
that BMI is not
a perfect measure
461
00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:29,881
because it's easy,
462
00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:32,450
it's relatively cheap,
463
00:17:32,452 --> 00:17:34,385
um, it's used probably more
464
00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,287
than it necessarily should be.
465
00:17:38,691 --> 00:17:39,857
Why then are lawmakers
466
00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,527
putting so much emphasis on BMI,
467
00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:44,729
especially with children?
468
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,197
To find out more,
469
00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:48,099
I visited Claire Mysko
470
00:17:48,101 --> 00:17:49,801
who's dedicated her life's work
471
00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,336
to studying and solving issues
472
00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:55,073
of health, weight, and eating.
473
00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:57,742
At the national
eating disorders association,
474
00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:59,277
we really believe
475
00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,212
in educating kids about health,
476
00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:02,680
but to do it in a way
477
00:18:02,682 --> 00:18:05,883
that focuses on health,
um, and holistically
478
00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:08,886
and this idea
that kids should be fixated
479
00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,588
on a particular number, uh,
480
00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:14,158
to define their health
is incredibly problematic.
481
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,627
Um, so for the state to come in
482
00:18:16,629 --> 00:18:18,796
and say,
"this is the measure of health
483
00:18:18,798 --> 00:18:20,231
that we're going to apply,"
484
00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:23,034
um, it's an inaccurate measure
of health for one thing,
485
00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:26,437
um, and it's totally based
on a number, you know.
486
00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:29,373
So for kids who are
already struggling
487
00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:30,808
with low self-esteem,
488
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:32,143
poor body image, which she...
489
00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:34,745
We know poor body image
is a huge problem
490
00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:36,180
for many, many kids,
491
00:18:36,182 --> 00:18:37,648
um, you know,
492
00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,184
we find this potentially
very dangerous.
493
00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,120
And this is the way
we ought to be doing it.
494
00:18:42,122 --> 00:18:43,888
It's an important thing
for our kids.
495
00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:45,356
It teaches them life lessons
496
00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:46,657
and I think it's very rare.
497
00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:47,825
All of us will get together
498
00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,393
and come up
with a consensus bill
499
00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:51,162
that's as good as this one
500
00:18:51,164 --> 00:18:53,431
and I hope you all
will be willing to support it
501
00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:54,799
because it's good stuff.
502
00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:57,168
This whole conversation
is going to lead
503
00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:58,569
to something very beneficial,
504
00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,538
but I think the most
important thing
505
00:19:00,540 --> 00:19:03,207
is that children
will have the knowledge.
506
00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:04,909
I think we've done
good work here today
507
00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:06,377
for the citizens of Ohio
508
00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:08,179
and for the children of Ohio.
509
00:19:08,181 --> 00:19:10,648
I am all for educating
kids about health,
510
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,116
but let's do it in a way
511
00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:13,251
that makes sense,
512
00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:14,785
that is not fear-based,
513
00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:16,154
that is not going to lead
514
00:19:16,156 --> 00:19:18,389
to shaming and bullying.
515
00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:21,359
Um, it's so critical
516
00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:24,795
that our government
actually develops policies
517
00:19:24,797 --> 00:19:27,565
that are based
on good information.
518
00:19:27,567 --> 00:19:28,966
Yes, I'm going to vote
for this bill,
519
00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:30,468
but what I would like to say
520
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,704
is as we look at the obesity
problem in the future,
521
00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:35,206
let's bring some
professionals in
522
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,607
who've spent their lives
523
00:19:36,609 --> 00:19:38,042
in the research in this area
524
00:19:38,044 --> 00:19:39,610
to give us some advice.
Thank you.
525
00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:40,945
It's incredibly frustrating
526
00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,480
that these decisions
are being made
527
00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:43,948
at a government level,
528
00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:46,083
um, without any input
from experts
529
00:19:46,085 --> 00:19:48,719
who actually have
the knowledge, um,
530
00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:51,189
and who are saying again,
and again, and again
531
00:19:51,191 --> 00:19:54,792
that BMI is not an accurate
measure of health.
532
00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:56,394
The question is,
shall the title be agreed to?
533
00:19:56,396 --> 00:19:58,129
Representative Kearney
moves to amend the title.
534
00:19:58,131 --> 00:19:59,597
If you wish to add
your name to the title,
535
00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:01,132
please do so at this time.
536
00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:08,506
Without objection,
the title would be agreed to.
537
00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:11,042
Hearing no objection,
the title is agreed to.
538
00:20:13,146 --> 00:20:15,079
So with everyone
that I interview,
539
00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:16,981
I'm doing my own BMI test.
540
00:20:16,983 --> 00:20:18,216
And so I ask them,
541
00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:20,051
"would you like
to get on the scale?"
542
00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:21,719
I have my scale right here.
543
00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:23,254
Would you be willing
to participate
544
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,189
in my BMI test?
545
00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:26,991
You know what,
I would not be willing
546
00:20:26,993 --> 00:20:28,459
to participate in your BMI test
547
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:30,261
and I'll tell you why.
Uh-hmm.
548
00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:32,763
I haven't known my weight
549
00:20:32,765 --> 00:20:35,066
in, hmm,
550
00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:38,369
probably close to 20 years now.
551
00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,738
And not knowing my weight
552
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,307
has been one of the healthiest
things for me,
553
00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:45,676
um, because at a certain
point in my life,
554
00:20:45,678 --> 00:20:48,145
I was obsessed with this number
555
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:50,214
and it made me very sick
556
00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,849
and very unhappy.
557
00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,585
And to be able to live my life
558
00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:55,820
and feel healthy,
559
00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:57,154
I go to the doctor, you know,
560
00:20:57,156 --> 00:20:59,156
I get all the tests
that I need to get done,
561
00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,626
um, you know, I am not...
562
00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:03,561
I don't live in fear
of this number,
563
00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:05,630
but not knowing it
564
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:09,066
has made me
a much happier person.
565
00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,501
Well, if not knowing your weight
566
00:21:10,503 --> 00:21:12,336
could make you a happier person,
567
00:21:12,338 --> 00:21:13,704
then our lawmakers are making
568
00:21:13,706 --> 00:21:16,173
a lot of kids miserable.
569
00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:19,744
So I decided to reach out
570
00:21:19,746 --> 00:21:22,113
to the main sponsor
of the fat letter law
571
00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:24,248
in my state.
572
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,319
Senator Kearney's office,
this is Emily.
573
00:21:28,321 --> 00:21:30,187
Hi, this is Bailey Webber.
574
00:21:30,189 --> 00:21:32,890
Um, I emailed senator Kearney
a few weeks ago
575
00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:34,859
and I'm trying
to schedule an interview
576
00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:36,727
and I didn't get a response,
577
00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:38,095
so I'm calling again to see
578
00:21:38,097 --> 00:21:40,564
if I could schedule
an interview possibly today.
579
00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:43,534
Um, one second, please?
580
00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:44,635
Okay.
581
00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:47,872
Because his schedule right now,
582
00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,608
uh, we wouldn't be able
to do a live interview.
583
00:21:50,610 --> 00:21:53,010
But if you wanted
to email the questions,
584
00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:55,313
we can get the responses
back to you.
585
00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:56,380
That won't really work
586
00:21:56,382 --> 00:21:58,015
because I'm doing
a video project,
587
00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,351
so I'll need to interview him
588
00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:01,986
for a video.
589
00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:03,587
His schedule is really busy.
590
00:22:03,589 --> 00:22:05,389
We're not thinking that
it's gonna be a possibility
591
00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,358
to do any
sort of live interview.
592
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,727
I can't explain
what happened to me next.
593
00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:12,596
But the more she refused
to Grant me an interview,
594
00:22:12,598 --> 00:22:15,366
the more determined
I was to get it.
595
00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:19,103
Um, do you think that there's
any other time available,
596
00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:20,271
maybe in a few weeks?
597
00:22:20,273 --> 00:22:22,473
I don't have to have it,
like, immediately.
598
00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:24,542
No, I'm sorry.
He's not available.
599
00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,377
So, does senator Kearney
600
00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:30,047
not do video interviews?
601
00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:33,050
He does when it fits
into his schedule.
602
00:22:33,052 --> 00:22:34,819
Maybe, um, will his schedule
603
00:22:34,821 --> 00:22:36,721
open up in a few weeks?
604
00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:38,356
I can't give you
a definitive answer.
605
00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:40,791
I'm not really sure, so...
606
00:22:40,793 --> 00:22:42,626
Um, I can do...
607
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:43,828
Not even just in a few weeks.
608
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:46,097
I can do in a few months even.
609
00:22:46,099 --> 00:22:47,498
Would that work?
610
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,668
Um, not at this moment, no.
611
00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:53,237
She just kept on saying,
"schedule, schedule, schedule."
612
00:22:53,239 --> 00:22:55,139
And I said... I'm like,
"everything is open with me.
613
00:22:55,141 --> 00:22:56,474
"My principal is okay with it.
614
00:22:56,476 --> 00:22:57,842
"I can leave school.
615
00:22:57,844 --> 00:23:00,778
"Um, I close to Cincinnati,
Columbus, and Dayton.
616
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,714
"I can... i can drive there
anytime, anywhere
617
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,616
even in a few months."
618
00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:07,351
And she kept on going
back to the schedule,
619
00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:09,220
and then she got around...
620
00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:12,156
She's saying that he doesn't
represent me.
621
00:23:12,158 --> 00:23:14,859
I'm afraid he doesn't
represent you directly.
622
00:23:14,861 --> 00:23:16,727
- Oh, okay.
- So...
623
00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:19,397
And I was confused by that
because it's like,
624
00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:20,898
"wait, he doesn't represent me.
625
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,733
"He passed a law
that represented
626
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,602
me and my friends."
627
00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:25,803
I'm starting to think
628
00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:30,608
that it's not about,
um, scheduling.
629
00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:32,576
It's more about this topic
630
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,645
and maybe senator Kearney
631
00:23:34,647 --> 00:23:37,047
doesn't wanna talk
to someone like me
632
00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:38,582
about this.
633
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:41,051
But... i mean,
I'm not gonna give up.
634
00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:43,053
I really wanna have
this conversation with him
635
00:23:43,055 --> 00:23:46,290
and this is gonna be
a lot harder than I thought.
636
00:23:48,628 --> 00:23:50,928
Now, there's so many emails.
637
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,530
Well, not everyone shies away
638
00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:54,098
from this heated topic.
639
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,633
In fact, meme Roth
640
00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:58,302
has been one of the more
outspoken voices
641
00:23:58,304 --> 00:23:59,904
in the debate over obesity.
642
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:03,374
And so, schools,
for a long time,
643
00:24:03,376 --> 00:24:05,976
have taken a role
in child health and welfare.
644
00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,179
They see a bruise
or there's sort of,
645
00:24:08,181 --> 00:24:11,115
maybe repeat broken bones.
646
00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,416
You know, they say,
647
00:24:12,418 --> 00:24:14,118
- "look, let's look into this."
- Uh-hmm.
648
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,021
And I feel that on the spectrum
649
00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:19,690
of vision, health, um,
650
00:24:19,692 --> 00:24:21,725
hearing, scoliosis,
and all the way
651
00:24:21,727 --> 00:24:23,294
that is your problem
in the home,
652
00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:24,361
maybe there's some
abuse going on.
653
00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:25,830
Somewhere in that spectrum,
654
00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:28,332
I think the BMI screening fits,
655
00:24:28,334 --> 00:24:30,134
even though I understand
656
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,635
people are conflicted
about them.
657
00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:33,804
But seriously,
658
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,039
nobody takes your BMI
659
00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:36,474
and send you to surgery.
660
00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:38,843
Like, there's a big gap
in between.
661
00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:40,377
It is free.
662
00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:42,112
It is non-invasive.
663
00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:43,347
There's no blood.
664
00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:44,748
There's no... not...
There's no spit.
665
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:47,718
It's literally free,
fast, and easy.
666
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,886
Uh-hmm.
And it's just
667
00:24:48,888 --> 00:24:50,287
an initial screening.
668
00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:51,655
Uh-hmm.
So, it just says,
669
00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:53,057
"hey, um,
670
00:24:53,059 --> 00:24:55,292
"your child might be
a little overweight
671
00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:56,393
"it seems here.
672
00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:57,728
Go check that out."
673
00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:00,664
Or, "hey, your child might be
a little underweight,
674
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:01,932
go check that out."
675
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,768
If it takes
the government to intervene
676
00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:07,805
to help preserve
a healthy life for these kids,
677
00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,207
then I don't love that.
678
00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:12,142
But I'm willing to concede that
679
00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:13,644
if that's what it takes.
680
00:25:13,646 --> 00:25:14,979
At first glance,
681
00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,914
you might not think
someone like meme
682
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,950
can truly appreciate
the struggles of obesity
683
00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:21,151
until you learn more
684
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,420
about her own
personal experiences.
685
00:25:23,422 --> 00:25:26,190
I come from a family
that's overweight,
686
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:29,627
multigenerational, aunts,
uncles, grandparents.
687
00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:31,462
My... both of my parents
688
00:25:31,464 --> 00:25:33,964
are very obese.
689
00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:36,901
My grandmother
was put into a, uh,
690
00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:38,936
24-hour care facility
691
00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:41,372
because her weight
got so immense.
692
00:25:41,374 --> 00:25:44,308
And I think about
that obesity killed her well
693
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:45,876
before she died.
694
00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:48,646
Imagine yourself
unable or unwilling
695
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,714
to get out of your bed
696
00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:52,216
because you're so heavy
that you're willing
697
00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:54,485
to just go to the bathroom
in your bed.
698
00:25:54,487 --> 00:25:56,554
That's where obesity
takes people.
699
00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:57,621
So, it's really hard for me
700
00:25:57,623 --> 00:25:59,623
to call obesity beautiful.
701
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:00,925
It's really hard for me
702
00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:03,460
to call rolls of fat curves,
703
00:26:03,462 --> 00:26:04,762
because that's not
what curvy is.
704
00:26:04,764 --> 00:26:06,363
I know what curvy is.
705
00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:07,665
And I think that people
706
00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:09,266
who try to normalize obesity
707
00:26:09,268 --> 00:26:11,569
or glorify obesity,
they mean well.
708
00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:14,705
They want people to feel good
about themselves.
709
00:26:14,707 --> 00:26:16,373
But really,
it's not helping anybody.
710
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:18,275
But are fat letters
from our government
711
00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:19,443
helping anybody?
712
00:26:19,445 --> 00:26:20,644
And if so,
713
00:26:20,646 --> 00:26:22,086
where is the evidence
to show this?
714
00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,116
Hello, senator Kearney's
office, this is Leo.
715
00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:27,418
It seems the one person
716
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,186
who should answer this question
717
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:32,222
is the only one
not willing to talk to me.
718
00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:33,958
I called a few weeks ago
719
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,859
and, um, I also send an email
720
00:26:35,861 --> 00:26:37,895
and I didn't get a response.
721
00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:40,130
So, I'm calling again
to set up an interview
722
00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:41,932
with senator Kearney.
723
00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,334
We won't be able to actually
724
00:26:43,336 --> 00:26:44,868
schedule an interview.
725
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:48,105
Um, but if you want
to email us your questions,
726
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,174
we can try to share those
with the senator.
727
00:26:50,176 --> 00:26:51,241
Okay.
728
00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:52,710
Well, I did send an email
729
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:53,777
a couple of weeks ago
730
00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,846
and I didn't get a response.
731
00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:57,748
And plus,
this is a video project,
732
00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,384
so just answering on email
733
00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:01,986
won't really work for me.
734
00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:03,587
Uh-hmm.
Yeah, I understand that.
735
00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:05,489
But unfortunately,
it's just that
736
00:27:05,491 --> 00:27:07,992
with an interview
like this, it's...
737
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:09,660
The more they turned me down,
738
00:27:09,662 --> 00:27:11,061
the more determined I was
739
00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:13,864
not to take no for an answer.
740
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:16,567
So, I just kept calling back.
741
00:27:16,569 --> 00:27:18,135
Uh, so, I'm calling back again,
742
00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:20,704
but I forgot to ask
the question.
743
00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:22,940
Can you give me a list
of any of the places
744
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,608
senator Kearney will be?
745
00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:26,577
Anything on the schedule,
any luncheons,
746
00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:29,046
or public speeches?
747
00:27:29,048 --> 00:27:30,881
Uh, currently, no.
748
00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,751
So, there's nothing
on his schedule?
749
00:27:33,753 --> 00:27:35,386
I don't have any...
Anything like that
750
00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:37,755
scheduled at this time.
751
00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:38,822
Oh, can... so then,
752
00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:40,791
can I just schedule
an interview?
753
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:43,093
No, if you want
your questions answered,
754
00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:44,294
you need to email them to us.
755
00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:45,529
It was official.
756
00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:48,165
The battle of wills
was in full swing now.
757
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:49,366
Hello, senator Kearney's office.
758
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:50,534
This is Leo.
759
00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:52,636
Hi, Leo. This is Bailey again.
760
00:27:52,638 --> 00:27:54,738
I'm calling again
because you said
761
00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:56,040
that there was nothing
on the schedule,
762
00:27:56,042 --> 00:27:58,776
so I would like to schedule
a private luncheon,
763
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,611
and how would I do that?
764
00:28:00,613 --> 00:28:01,645
I think what you're getting at
765
00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:03,113
is if can you show up somewhere
766
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,882
and ask him your question
767
00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:07,184
and have a conversation
with him.
768
00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:08,919
The answer is no.
769
00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:10,954
I tried the confused angle.
770
00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:13,223
No, there's no schedule?
771
00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:14,425
I tried to be assertive.
772
00:28:14,427 --> 00:28:16,026
He's willing to speak for us,
773
00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:18,429
but not to us.
774
00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:19,596
No, if you want
your questions...
775
00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:21,699
I even resorted to sarcasm.
776
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:25,035
So, is senator Kearney
a public official?
777
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,037
Is he a public official? Yeah.
778
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,872
So, as a public official,
779
00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:31,909
when will he officially
be in public?
780
00:28:31,911 --> 00:28:33,544
So, when you think
about our lawmakers
781
00:28:33,546 --> 00:28:34,945
and everything they do,
782
00:28:34,947 --> 00:28:36,513
it's all scripted.
783
00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:37,748
Hearings, they're scripted.
784
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:39,583
They're reading off a speech.
785
00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:40,884
Um, commercials, scripted.
786
00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:42,419
They're reading off
a teleprompter.
787
00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:44,188
Everything they do is scripted.
788
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:45,956
And when I called
to have an open conversation,
789
00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:47,391
they said,
"no, we can't do that,"
790
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,393
but we can send an email.
791
00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,695
Well, no, that's scripted.
792
00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,764
They always are wanting
like students
793
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,999
to be more involved
in government
794
00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:57,367
to learn about it, be interested
795
00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:59,503
and, um, and I'm interested,
796
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:01,605
but they said,
"no, this is all the question.
797
00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:04,108
"The senator
cannot have a interview
798
00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:07,010
or a conversation
with a citizen."
799
00:29:07,012 --> 00:29:08,545
Do you wanna call again?
800
00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,284
The BMI to notify them.
801
00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,054
But not all lawmakers
were silent on the matter.
802
00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:18,522
Senator Gary Cates
803
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:20,491
was more than willing
to talk to me
804
00:29:20,493 --> 00:29:22,493
about the BMI law.
So, I can tell you
805
00:29:22,495 --> 00:29:25,195
from personal, uh, testimony
806
00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,164
that there are times
when there are bills
807
00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:30,000
that come to legislature
that sometimes,
808
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,168
you vote for something
809
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:31,168
even though you don't think
it's the right thing to do
810
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,705
because you're worried
about negative consequences
811
00:29:34,707 --> 00:29:37,541
such as bad newspaper stories.
812
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:38,675
Commercials and campaigns
813
00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:40,477
saying that you hate kids,
814
00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:42,546
you don't want them
to be healthy.
815
00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:42,546
But sometimes,
816
00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,782
even if you're the only
person opposes to it,
817
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,416
if you think it's
the right thing to do,
818
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:47,618
you got to do that.
819
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:50,287
And senator Cates did just that.
820
00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:52,623
In fact, he was one
of the few lawmakers
821
00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:55,159
who raised concerns
about the BMI mandate
822
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,293
during the senate hearing.
823
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,628
I would tell you
the approach we're taking here
824
00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,363
is completely wrong.
825
00:29:59,365 --> 00:30:01,165
And so, the last thing
we need to be doing here
826
00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:02,432
is to get involved with this,
827
00:30:02,434 --> 00:30:03,967
have our schools
involved with this.
828
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,302
I was trying to convey
to my colleagues
829
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:08,372
is that think
really hard about this.
830
00:30:08,374 --> 00:30:09,807
We're gonna regret this.
831
00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:11,875
And I can't help but to think
that the school district
832
00:30:11,877 --> 00:30:13,310
is gonna be jumping
up and down saying,
833
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,546
"yippee, now,
we have this to do."
834
00:30:15,548 --> 00:30:17,281
We can't do everything
835
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:18,615
in the schools.
836
00:30:18,617 --> 00:30:20,617
There are some things
that have to remain
837
00:30:20,619 --> 00:30:22,452
within the family nucleus
838
00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:23,754
- and I think that...
- Senator Cates
839
00:30:23,756 --> 00:30:25,923
was not alone in his descent.
840
00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:28,325
Some school officials
also stood firm
841
00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:30,127
in opposition to the law.
842
00:30:30,129 --> 00:30:31,261
I took it to the school board.
843
00:30:31,263 --> 00:30:32,329
We had a discussion and we said,
844
00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:34,531
"no, we're not
gonna force our children
845
00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:35,999
"to go through
this kind of testing
846
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:37,267
in our school."
847
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:38,669
So, how does schools like this
848
00:30:38,671 --> 00:30:41,471
get away with ignoring
the mandate?
849
00:30:41,473 --> 00:30:42,539
As it turns out,
850
00:30:42,541 --> 00:30:44,675
the law does allow for a waiver
851
00:30:44,677 --> 00:30:45,876
to be issued.
852
00:30:45,878 --> 00:30:47,344
But there's a catch.
853
00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:50,214
A district has to claim
a financial hardship
854
00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:51,582
to get it.
855
00:30:51,584 --> 00:30:54,885
So, what if your objection
is philosophical?
856
00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,054
The question I have
is what do we do
857
00:30:57,056 --> 00:30:59,122
with a school district
who may wish
858
00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:02,960
to opt out for philosophical
or other reasons?
859
00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:04,828
This would not allow them
to do this.
860
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:09,132
So, I'd like a clarification
on that, please.
861
00:31:09,134 --> 00:31:10,667
Senator Cadman, would you, uh...
862
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:12,236
I don't agree with that.
863
00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:18,008
Senator Cadman, would you reply
to the chair, please?
864
00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:19,977
Hmm, a tricky one.
865
00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:21,912
I am gonna phone a friend.
866
00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:23,547
What? Phone a friend?
867
00:31:25,017 --> 00:31:27,451
Oh, call me. I know this one.
868
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:30,087
The answer
you're looking for is, no.
869
00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:32,789
Senator Cadman, it looked like
you established contact
870
00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:33,891
- with that friend...
- No.
871
00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:36,293
Without phoning.
872
00:31:36,295 --> 00:31:38,228
But I'll...
I will phone a friend
873
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,197
and ask senator Seitz
874
00:31:40,199 --> 00:31:43,000
who indicates that there is...
875
00:31:43,002 --> 00:31:45,969
There is a answer
to that specific question.
876
00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:47,237
What?
877
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,940
Just answer the question. No.
878
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,308
Thank you very much,
Mr. president.
879
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,844
My good friend from Butler
county raises a very good point
880
00:31:53,846 --> 00:31:55,812
because the requirement
to get the waiver
881
00:31:55,814 --> 00:31:58,048
is that it be
for financial reasons
882
00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:59,149
- and...
- Clear enough,
883
00:31:59,151 --> 00:32:01,184
that's a no.
884
00:32:01,186 --> 00:32:03,654
Oh, wait, he's still talking.
885
00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:06,156
If indeed
the requirement violates
886
00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:08,692
the philosophic position
of the school,
887
00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,594
clearly, that could have
a financial impact
888
00:32:10,596 --> 00:32:11,929
on the school because...
889
00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,698
Ah, I see where this is heading.
890
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:16,934
I believe that this goes
against their philosophy.
891
00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:19,403
They are not going to send
their children to the school.
892
00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:20,771
And that will clearly create
893
00:32:20,773 --> 00:32:22,572
financial hardship
to the school,
894
00:32:22,574 --> 00:32:23,941
then therefore,
all they've got to do
895
00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:25,676
is turn in an affidavit.
896
00:32:25,678 --> 00:32:26,877
In other words,
897
00:32:26,879 --> 00:32:29,813
make up a fantastic,
convoluted story
898
00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:33,150
that ends with an imaginary
financial hardship
899
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:34,618
for your school.
900
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,521
Then, with a wink and a nod
from the state,
901
00:32:37,523 --> 00:32:38,855
you've got yourself a waiver.
902
00:32:38,857 --> 00:32:40,390
The beauty of this amendment
903
00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,359
is that the affidavit
is in effect,
904
00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:43,927
self-effectuating.
905
00:32:43,929 --> 00:32:45,662
It is an automatic waiver
906
00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:47,698
and that's why
that last sentence...
907
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:48,999
My dad once told me
908
00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,500
that people shouldn't see
909
00:32:50,502 --> 00:32:53,136
how sausage in malls are made.
910
00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:55,305
I never really understood
what that meant
911
00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:56,673
until just now.
912
00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:58,041
So, for those schools
913
00:32:58,043 --> 00:32:59,876
that have
a philosophic objection
914
00:32:59,878 --> 00:33:01,678
that will lead
to financial hardship,
915
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,281
for those schools that don't
wanna spend the extra money
916
00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:05,849
for financial hardship,
917
00:33:05,851 --> 00:33:07,317
one simple affidavit
918
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,952
is a self-effectuating way...
919
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,055
Ugh, that's disgusting.
920
00:33:12,057 --> 00:33:14,591
Can we just take that off
the screen, please?
921
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,928
Oh, okay, that's better.
922
00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:20,197
I'm sorry everybody
had to see that.
923
00:33:21,632 --> 00:33:23,467
Then again, I'm just a kid.
924
00:33:23,469 --> 00:33:25,235
I'm probably
just misunderstanding
925
00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:27,537
all of this beautiful language.
926
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:28,705
The board signed off on it
927
00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:30,440
and I made the application
for the waiver.
928
00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:32,275
I don't think it was a great
financial burden.
929
00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:35,178
It was more of a philosophical.
930
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:36,613
Nope, I was right.
931
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:38,482
We're all in the same page here.
932
00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:45,088
In spite of the criticism,
933
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:46,923
other states have begun adopting
934
00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:49,426
similar BMI notifications.
935
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:53,130
But why are they so popular
among lawmakers?
936
00:33:53,132 --> 00:33:54,865
At Columbia university,
937
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:57,834
I met with professor
Sayantani Dasgupta
938
00:33:57,836 --> 00:33:59,669
who is also a pediatrician
939
00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:00,737
and mother.
940
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:03,040
We have these
knee jerk reactions
941
00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:05,809
to things that we see as crisis.
942
00:34:05,811 --> 00:34:07,577
And we wanna do
the right thing, right?
943
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:10,080
We want a healthy
nation of kids.
944
00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:11,715
And so, we think,
945
00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:14,217
"well, gee,
what's something quick
946
00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,853
and far reaching
and simple that we can do?"
947
00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:19,222
And I think that's how people
fall into these traps
948
00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:21,191
of legislation like this.
949
00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:22,893
And it's very attractive
950
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,162
kind of one quick answer,
951
00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:26,263
one quick number
952
00:34:26,265 --> 00:34:29,232
that's gonna tell you
healthy or not?
953
00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:30,434
And yet,
954
00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:33,603
the indicator itself,
BMI itself,
955
00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:37,407
may not be an accurate
measure of anything.
956
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,043
And that's a really
957
00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:41,945
kind of harsh reality to face
958
00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:43,513
when you've made
a bunch of legislation
959
00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:46,917
based on the truthiness
of this number.
960
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:49,052
Then, the possibility is,
961
00:34:49,054 --> 00:34:51,755
no matter how good
the intentions,
962
00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:54,524
we might be doing
more harm than good, right?
963
00:34:54,526 --> 00:34:55,826
But it seems lawmakers
964
00:34:55,828 --> 00:34:58,462
don't wanna talk
about that possibility
965
00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:00,530
and all the good
intentions in the world
966
00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,966
don't necessarily lead
to good results.
967
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:05,135
So, with everyone I interview,
968
00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:07,437
I conduct my own BMI test.
969
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:08,972
And so... yes.
Do you now?
970
00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:10,674
So I have a scale today
971
00:35:10,676 --> 00:35:12,109
and I was wondering,
972
00:35:12,111 --> 00:35:15,245
would you like to be
a part of my BMI test?
973
00:35:15,247 --> 00:35:17,447
Thank you very much
for the offer.
974
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:20,050
Um, I don't think
our young people
975
00:35:20,052 --> 00:35:22,486
should be being weighed
in gym class.
976
00:35:22,488 --> 00:35:24,821
And I think I will choose
977
00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:27,324
to not be weighed today either.
978
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,526
Okay, I totally understand.
979
00:35:29,528 --> 00:35:32,062
So, you'd like to exercise
your right to choose?
980
00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:33,130
I do.
You choose no.
981
00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:35,532
Although I appreciate
your private...
982
00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:38,735
Yeah.
Door-to-door BMI service.
983
00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,704
It's perfectly fine.
You know,
984
00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:42,005
I exercise my right
985
00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:45,075
and I'm not particularly
affected by it.
986
00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,444
What worries me
is that I don't think
987
00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,679
my 10-year-old daughter,
988
00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:51,781
I don't think
she would have the room
989
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,450
- or even know it was an option...
- Yeah.
990
00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,786
To exercise her right
not to get on that scale.
991
00:35:56,788 --> 00:35:58,522
Officials in several
states have adapted
992
00:35:58,524 --> 00:35:59,923
a controversial tactic
993
00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,992
in trying to bring
childhood obesity
994
00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:03,093
under control.
995
00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:04,494
They're sending
what some call...
996
00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:06,830
Nineteen states
across the country
997
00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:07,998
this September
998
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000
are considering sending
these letters home.
999
00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:13,069
States across from, uh, new
York to Arkansas to Illinois
1000
00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:14,371
are participating in this.
1001
00:36:14,373 --> 00:36:17,040
They're monitoring
how fat the kid is...
1002
00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:18,542
Florida law
that requires students
1003
00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:21,311
to have health screenings
is stirring up controversy.
1004
00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:23,813
The parents of a young girl
in Naples, Florida...
1005
00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,649
are being sent home
to children as a part
1006
00:36:25,651 --> 00:36:28,185
of the Massachusetts department
of public health's policy
1007
00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:31,254
to inform parents
of their child's body mass index
1008
00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:34,191
or BMI and their risk
of obesity.
1009
00:36:49,106 --> 00:36:51,007
As government BMI initiatives
1010
00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:52,275
and fat letters
1011
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:54,544
spread like wildfire
across the country,
1012
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,446
it even extends to kids
1013
00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,348
who aren't overweight at all.
1014
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:00,984
We got it, everyone
got it that day in school.
1015
00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:03,320
And, you know, we were all...
1016
00:37:03,322 --> 00:37:06,223
I think we were pretty much
all called overweight.
1017
00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:08,491
My friend said she cried at home
1018
00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,360
because she was called obese.
1019
00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:12,662
And she's not obese.
1020
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:14,664
And it was one of my best
friends, you know.
1021
00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:16,833
Yeah.
1022
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:18,935
So, it says that I'm 60...
1023
00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:21,271
I was 66 pounds...
Uh-huh.
1024
00:37:21,273 --> 00:37:23,540
And my BMI was 19.
1025
00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:25,175
Okay.
So, it says here, current BMI
1026
00:37:25,177 --> 00:37:27,811
is 19, placing you
in the 88th percentile
1027
00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:30,347
for child...
For girls age nine.
1028
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:32,215
Your BMI falls outside
the healthy weight.
1029
00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:35,552
Please review your BMI
with a healthcare provider.
1030
00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:39,456
And I was like,
"oh, I'm overweight."
1031
00:37:39,458 --> 00:37:40,557
Yeah.
And, like, at first,
1032
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,425
I was like,
"oh, I'm only 66 pounds."
1033
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,094
And then, I looked, I'm like...
1034
00:37:44,096 --> 00:37:45,562
I'm like, wow.
1035
00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:48,064
The normal...
I'm 88th percentile...
1036
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:49,199
- Uh-huh.
- And the normal one
1037
00:37:49,201 --> 00:37:51,134
is 77th percentile.
1038
00:37:51,136 --> 00:37:53,036
So, I'm only
10 away from normal...
1039
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:54,104
From like, you know,
1040
00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:55,905
what they say is normal health.
1041
00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:57,374
They're going about it
in the wrong way.
1042
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:00,343
To me, it's just a way
for them to say,
1043
00:38:00,345 --> 00:38:01,645
"well, we're doing something.
1044
00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:03,947
We're combating
childhood obesity."
1045
00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,949
You're not combating
childhood obesity.
1046
00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,017
You're... you know,
1047
00:38:07,019 --> 00:38:08,785
you're simply
sending home a letter
1048
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:10,020
that in fact might be doing
1049
00:38:10,022 --> 00:38:12,455
more psychological harm
1050
00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,658
than physical wellbeing.
1051
00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:17,227
You know, we hear
so much in the news now
1052
00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:19,162
about the obesity epidemic.
1053
00:38:19,164 --> 00:38:21,331
And this is not to minimize
the seriousness of it,
1054
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:22,866
but we also have an epidemic
1055
00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:24,100
of eating disorders.
1056
00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:25,869
And we need to make sure
1057
00:38:25,871 --> 00:38:29,239
that in our efforts
to confront one epidemic,
1058
00:38:29,241 --> 00:38:31,141
we're not adding
fuel to the fire
1059
00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:34,144
of another one which is what
we're hearing so much
1060
00:38:34,146 --> 00:38:36,579
that this, perhaps,
well-intentioned,
1061
00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:39,082
but incredibly
misguided approach
1062
00:38:39,084 --> 00:38:40,884
of screening kids for BMI
1063
00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:42,519
and sending home letters
1064
00:38:42,521 --> 00:38:45,655
is actually triggering
eating disorders
1065
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:49,392
and stoking
an intense fear of fat
1066
00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:50,493
in young children
1067
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:52,929
who don't need
to be thinking about that.
1068
00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:56,199
It's very toxic,
kind of, thinking for kids.
1069
00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:58,001
It was actually
getting this letter
1070
00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,003
that then made her question,
1071
00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:01,204
is she overweight?
1072
00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:03,473
Which made her then
examine her body,
1073
00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:05,175
you know, asking, "is it this?
1074
00:39:05,177 --> 00:39:07,110
Is it my thigh?
Is it my stomach?"
1075
00:39:07,112 --> 00:39:08,178
And then,
1076
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:10,146
it was a frantic feeling almost
1077
00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:12,115
of me trying to...
1078
00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:14,317
Trying to tell like,
"no, no, everything's fine.
1079
00:39:14,319 --> 00:39:15,385
"No, that's perfect.
1080
00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:16,720
"You're perfect.
That's fine.
1081
00:39:16,722 --> 00:39:18,221
Don't worry about that.
That's not what they mean."
1082
00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:19,889
And all this encouraging.
1083
00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:21,591
That is what...
1084
00:39:21,593 --> 00:39:23,693
Was most disturbing
about the whole thing.
1085
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:24,994
Is that now, you just put this
1086
00:39:24,996 --> 00:39:26,730
into my nine-year-old's head.
1087
00:39:26,732 --> 00:39:29,132
You put this thought
into her head.
1088
00:39:31,569 --> 00:39:34,337
Are you against
vision screenings at school?
1089
00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:36,339
Are you against
hearing screenings at school?
1090
00:39:36,341 --> 00:39:38,675
Are you against
scoliosis screenings at school?
1091
00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:40,210
I'm not. I think it's great
1092
00:39:40,212 --> 00:39:42,245
that our schools help us
out in that way.
1093
00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:44,681
And the thing
about children's weight
1094
00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:47,150
is study after study show
1095
00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,486
that parents don't recognize
1096
00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:50,887
their children's
weight problems.
1097
00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:52,489
You just kind of don't see it.
1098
00:39:52,491 --> 00:39:54,724
You think your kid
is kind of normal, and so...
1099
00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:56,126
Well, that may be true,
1100
00:39:56,128 --> 00:39:59,062
but how did these studies
define obesity?
1101
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:02,198
I mean, would we even agree
with the definition
1102
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,934
or would we be counted
as fat blind?
1103
00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:07,670
Like these parents
who also received letters
1104
00:40:07,672 --> 00:40:09,572
calling their kids overweight.
1105
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,442
But apparently,
they just don't see it.
1106
00:40:12,444 --> 00:40:14,544
And he came home and said,
1107
00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:17,447
"I'm fat."
I said, "you're not fat.
1108
00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:19,849
That's... where did
you hear that?"
1109
00:40:19,851 --> 00:40:21,017
He said, "from school.
1110
00:40:21,019 --> 00:40:22,318
"I opened up my fitness gram
1111
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,354
and it said I'm fat."
1112
00:40:24,356 --> 00:40:26,289
Clearly, this mother
is delusional
1113
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,858
and can't see
her own son's obesity
1114
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,660
the same way the state does.
1115
00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:32,595
Does that make you feel
really bad about yourself, too?
1116
00:40:32,597 --> 00:40:34,097
Did you look at yourself
in the mirror...
1117
00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:35,165
Yes.
1118
00:40:35,167 --> 00:40:36,866
You did?
1119
00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:38,802
The thing about
the BMI screening
1120
00:40:38,804 --> 00:40:41,204
is that the reason the parents
1121
00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:44,407
are in an uproar over it,
1122
00:40:44,409 --> 00:40:46,876
the f isn't for fat.
1123
00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,978
The f is for parenting.
1124
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:51,281
Those letters come home
and parents feel like
1125
00:40:51,283 --> 00:40:54,284
it's an indictment
on them and it is.
1126
00:40:54,286 --> 00:40:56,152
You know, what's for them to say
1127
00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,421
that my daughter is overweight?
Yeah.
1128
00:40:58,423 --> 00:41:01,424
My daughter is actually active.
1129
00:41:01,426 --> 00:41:03,126
She's black belt,
1130
00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:04,594
not everybody is going to have
1131
00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:06,863
the model image, skinny
1132
00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:09,265
that the government
or whoever say
1133
00:41:09,267 --> 00:41:11,234
that they need to be skinny.
1134
00:41:11,236 --> 00:41:12,969
I don't think she's overweight.
1135
00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,238
I think she's fine
the way she is.
1136
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,773
Well, they said I was obese.
1137
00:41:16,775 --> 00:41:18,408
I thought, "oh, my gosh,
1138
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:20,076
why are they thinking
like this?"
1139
00:41:20,078 --> 00:41:22,412
I felt like I was...
I wanted to cry.
1140
00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:24,848
Go straight to my room and cry.
1141
00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,182
Just do what I did.
1142
00:41:26,184 --> 00:41:27,617
They don't...
They don't know us.
1143
00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:28,651
You did when you got home?
1144
00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:31,588
Yeah, but I was
thinking to myself,
1145
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:32,989
I was remembering
what I eat every night,
1146
00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:36,593
a daily serving
of veggies and fruits.
1147
00:41:36,595 --> 00:41:37,794
So, I was like,
1148
00:41:37,796 --> 00:41:38,928
"if I have my fruits
and veggies,
1149
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:41,664
why do they
call me obese?"
1150
00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:43,132
Yeah.
There's no reason
1151
00:41:43,134 --> 00:41:44,200
for saying that.
1152
00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:46,169
It's like they called
everybody that.
1153
00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:47,637
Each one of these kids
1154
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,239
received a fat letter.
1155
00:41:49,241 --> 00:41:50,773
Like, they had
a little measurement,
1156
00:41:50,775 --> 00:41:53,476
but they were called overweight.
1157
00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:55,044
The focus on body shape
1158
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:56,813
and body image in our society
1159
00:41:56,815 --> 00:41:58,681
has become very extreme.
1160
00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:00,149
And, you know,
1161
00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:02,886
it's not improved a lot
over the years
1162
00:42:02,888 --> 00:42:04,888
where young women particularly,
1163
00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,556
but I always have to mention
1164
00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:09,859
young men are forced
into categories.
1165
00:42:09,861 --> 00:42:12,529
Well, that's what
they think of us.
1166
00:42:12,531 --> 00:42:13,830
Yeah.
It's not like they're judging us
1167
00:42:13,832 --> 00:42:16,165
by who we really are.
1168
00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:18,635
Kids, yeah, you can
make health fun with them.
1169
00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:20,169
And it doesn't have
to be accusatory,
1170
00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:21,638
it doesn't have to blame,
1171
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,773
and it doesn't have
to make a poor child
1172
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:25,375
grab the body fat on their side
1173
00:42:25,377 --> 00:42:27,810
and say, "this is
what they're talking about."
1174
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:30,947
I've brought a scale
1175
00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:32,282
right here
1176
00:42:32,284 --> 00:42:34,918
and I was wondering
if you'd like to participate
1177
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,220
in my own private BMI test.
1178
00:42:37,222 --> 00:42:38,288
Come back in three months
1179
00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:40,456
when I've had time
to lose a few.
1180
00:42:41,692 --> 00:42:43,026
You're fine.
1181
00:42:43,028 --> 00:42:45,428
No one else has
wanted to be weighed.
1182
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:47,931
I don't blame you.
All right.
1183
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:49,966
Through this experience,
I've talked to many kids
1184
00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:52,535
and a lot of them
are very healthy.
1185
00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:54,637
And they even say
when they go to school
1186
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,839
they feel really embarrassed.
1187
00:42:56,841 --> 00:42:58,641
Even though they're healthy,
they feel embarrassed
1188
00:42:58,643 --> 00:43:01,778
to get on the scale
at the school setting.
1189
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,380
What do you think about this?
1190
00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:07,150
Well, weight has become
a stigmatized subject
1191
00:43:07,152 --> 00:43:09,052
because a lot of people are
embarrassed about their weight
1192
00:43:09,054 --> 00:43:10,987
and children are taught
that you don't discuss weight.
1193
00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:12,822
You're not allowed to ask
people's age and weight,
1194
00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:14,157
it's so silly.
These are just numbers,
1195
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:15,258
- these are just facts.
- Yeah.
1196
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:16,426
How old you are,
how tall you are,
1197
00:43:16,428 --> 00:43:17,827
how much you weigh
are just numbers.
1198
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:20,129
And so we sort if spread this,
1199
00:43:20,131 --> 00:43:23,032
discomfort about our weight
even for people who have,
1200
00:43:23,034 --> 00:43:24,601
like, what?
I'm this number
1201
00:43:24,603 --> 00:43:25,935
- and it means nothing to me.
- Yeah.
1202
00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,137
We make them feel,
I think a little
1203
00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,607
uncomfortable about it
because society's uncomfortable
1204
00:43:30,609 --> 00:43:33,009
- about the subject of weight.
- Yeah.
1205
00:43:33,011 --> 00:43:35,378
Now, everyone I interview,
1206
00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:37,413
I conduct my own BMI test.
1207
00:43:37,415 --> 00:43:39,182
Ah.
Yeah. And so,
1208
00:43:39,184 --> 00:43:41,584
I mean, just to be fair,
I'm gonna ask you.
1209
00:43:41,586 --> 00:43:42,952
I have a scale here today.
1210
00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:44,954
Oh, no, I have to weigh today?
1211
00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:46,823
If you want,
I'll give you a choice.
1212
00:43:46,825 --> 00:43:48,491
I have a scale here,
and would you want
1213
00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:51,427
to participate
in my own BMI test?
1214
00:43:51,429 --> 00:43:54,397
So this would be
between me and you.
1215
00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:56,599
Not really.
1216
00:43:56,601 --> 00:43:58,267
It... that is
perfectly okay.
1217
00:43:58,269 --> 00:44:00,003
No one had said yes.
I have to think about that.
1218
00:44:00,005 --> 00:44:01,337
I have to think about... that's...
No, no, no,
1219
00:44:01,339 --> 00:44:02,939
everyone had said no.
Everyone had said no?
1220
00:44:02,941 --> 00:44:05,274
No one wants to go on the scale.
Because they don't wanna weigh?
1221
00:44:05,276 --> 00:44:06,342
Yeah.
1222
00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:09,078
Yeah, and even you said
the one thing you wished
1223
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,780
when BMI was in school
1224
00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:12,849
is that they weigh the kid...
Privately.
1225
00:44:12,851 --> 00:44:14,951
Privately, not in front
of their friends.
1226
00:44:14,953 --> 00:44:16,886
Yeah.
Very, very private, you know.
1227
00:44:16,888 --> 00:44:19,022
Yeah, I do...
I do think it's private,
1228
00:44:19,024 --> 00:44:20,823
- but for me, right now.
- Yeah...
1229
00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:22,158
This minute, this week,
1230
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,861
I happen to know
that I'm really heavy for me.
1231
00:44:24,863 --> 00:44:26,696
Otherwise, I'd be jumping
on your scale,
1232
00:44:26,698 --> 00:44:28,898
like, of course I'd be happy.
Yeah.
1233
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:31,534
So, I feel
like it's terrible of me
1234
00:44:31,536 --> 00:44:33,069
to not really want to.
Yeah.
1235
00:44:33,071 --> 00:44:35,338
But it's because I don't
wanna face reality
1236
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,106
that I already know,
which I'm about five pounds
1237
00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:38,541
heavier than I should be.
Yeah.
1238
00:44:38,543 --> 00:44:40,843
And I know exactly why.
1239
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:42,545
I know Halloween.
Yeah, exactly.
1240
00:44:42,547 --> 00:44:44,013
I know the fudge tart cookies,
1241
00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:45,682
I know the nutter butters.
1242
00:44:45,684 --> 00:44:47,583
Uh-huh.
I know why.
1243
00:44:47,585 --> 00:44:49,619
And, so I think that's why
1244
00:44:49,621 --> 00:44:50,920
- I don't wanna deal with it.
- Yeah.
1245
00:44:50,922 --> 00:44:52,722
But, i...
But I don't think it's fair.
1246
00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:54,057
I think I should get
on your scale.
1247
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:56,926
I think it's weasel of me...
We... very weaselly of me
1248
00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:59,028
- to not get on your scale.
- No, I understand.
1249
00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:00,997
No, I will weigh myself only...
Yeah.
1250
00:45:00,999 --> 00:45:03,466
Because I think
it's wrong not to.
1251
00:45:03,468 --> 00:45:04,500
Yeah.
But I've given you every reason
1252
00:45:04,502 --> 00:45:06,536
why I hate it
as much as anybody else
1253
00:45:06,538 --> 00:45:07,770
and I don't wanna go
on the record
1254
00:45:07,772 --> 00:45:08,905
that I've ever been this heavy.
1255
00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:11,007
I'm so mad
because I shouldn't be,
1256
00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:12,809
but let's do it.
You... oh, are you sure?
1257
00:45:12,811 --> 00:45:14,777
Yeah, no, it's fair.
Okay.
1258
00:45:14,779 --> 00:45:16,679
Oh, you put it right here.
Okay, one second.
1259
00:45:16,681 --> 00:45:19,015
So, what is my...
What is my allowance on...
1260
00:45:19,017 --> 00:45:20,283
Yeah. Well...
All these pretend pounds
1261
00:45:20,285 --> 00:45:22,885
of clothes that I'm wearing?
1262
00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:24,921
We'll take off five pounds.
1263
00:45:24,923 --> 00:45:26,022
Okay.
Okay.
1264
00:45:26,024 --> 00:45:27,457
So here's the thing...
So, tap it once
1265
00:45:27,459 --> 00:45:29,425
and then you step on it.
Tap it and then get it on?
1266
00:45:29,427 --> 00:45:30,693
Yeah.
So this is why really sucks
1267
00:45:30,695 --> 00:45:31,961
because... okay, there.
Oh, oh, sorry.
1268
00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,596
So, um...
What were you saying?
1269
00:45:33,598 --> 00:45:35,364
Don't step on it yet.
'Cause I know that I'm...
1270
00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:37,366
Okay, you tell me...
Do I do it now?
1271
00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:39,035
Now you can.
Okay.
1272
00:45:39,037 --> 00:45:40,670
So this is gonna really suck
for me...
1273
00:45:40,672 --> 00:45:43,072
Uh-hmm.
Because... oh.
1274
00:45:43,074 --> 00:45:44,941
So I'm about five
overruns this week,
1275
00:45:44,943 --> 00:45:46,509
but I can live with that.
With everyone's support, yeah.
1276
00:45:46,511 --> 00:45:48,611
But that is what it is.
1277
00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:50,980
As I travel
the country with my scale
1278
00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:53,683
making friends
and making my case
1279
00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:55,752
I still couldn't reach
the one person
1280
00:45:55,754 --> 00:45:58,921
closest to my home.
1281
00:45:58,923 --> 00:46:02,458
And then out of the blue
it happened.
1282
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:04,093
I'm sitting here at the computer
1283
00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:07,130
doing my homework
and I look over to the TV
1284
00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:09,365
and senator Kearney
is on the news.
1285
00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:11,968
This is the man
I've been chasing for so long
1286
00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:14,337
and he's on the news.
1287
00:46:14,339 --> 00:46:17,440
Okay. Hold on.
Let me rewind this.
1288
00:46:18,909 --> 00:46:21,911
I just literally got an email
from the campaign
1289
00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:23,179
- two minutes ago.
- Senator Kearney,
1290
00:46:23,181 --> 00:46:24,714
that's him.
So, Wednesday, it looks
1291
00:46:24,716 --> 00:46:25,915
like the president is going
1292
00:46:25,917 --> 00:46:27,216
to be here.
The man who doesn't give
1293
00:46:27,218 --> 00:46:29,752
interviews is on the news.
1294
00:46:29,754 --> 00:46:31,087
And he says where he's gonna be.
1295
00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:32,855
President Obama
is expected to arrive
1296
00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:34,223
in Cincinnati tomorrow night.
1297
00:46:34,225 --> 00:46:36,859
It's gonna be his free
1298
00:46:36,861 --> 00:46:39,061
two minutes ago, so, Wednesday,
1299
00:46:39,063 --> 00:46:42,632
it looks like the president
is going to be here.
1300
00:46:42,634 --> 00:46:43,833
And he's gonna be there, too.
1301
00:46:43,835 --> 00:46:46,235
I guess him
and the president are tight.
1302
00:46:47,538 --> 00:46:50,173
I got to find out
where there is.
1303
00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:07,723
I'm sorry but we won't be able
1304
00:47:07,725 --> 00:47:09,125
to get you any more tickets
1305
00:47:09,127 --> 00:47:11,194
because the event is sold-out.
1306
00:47:11,196 --> 00:47:12,662
I'm trying to think
is there any other,
1307
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:14,764
like, way I could get it in?
1308
00:47:14,766 --> 00:47:17,700
There'd be any extra seating,
I can stand.
1309
00:47:17,702 --> 00:47:18,968
Well, you're welcome
to come down
1310
00:47:18,970 --> 00:47:21,237
and show your support,
but without a ticket,
1311
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,372
I'm afraid you won't be able
to get in.
1312
00:47:23,374 --> 00:47:26,242
I'm a student
and I'm studying journalism
1313
00:47:26,244 --> 00:47:28,110
and, um,
1314
00:47:28,112 --> 00:47:30,179
and I would like to get in
because I'm trying
1315
00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:32,215
to get this interview
with the senator.
1316
00:47:32,217 --> 00:47:34,183
Well, if you have a press pass,
1317
00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:36,552
you might be able
to get in that way,
1318
00:47:36,554 --> 00:47:38,354
but that's not handled by us.
1319
00:47:38,356 --> 00:47:41,123
Do you have press credentials
from your school?
1320
00:47:41,125 --> 00:47:43,526
What are press credentials?
1321
00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:45,461
Well, press credentials
are like an ID
1322
00:47:45,463 --> 00:47:47,063
that identify you
as a journalist
1323
00:47:47,065 --> 00:47:49,365
or at work.
Okay.
1324
00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,934
But again, press passes
aren't issued by us.
1325
00:47:51,936 --> 00:47:54,270
That's handled
by the president's staff.
1326
00:47:54,272 --> 00:47:56,372
So, I'm not really sure
1327
00:47:56,374 --> 00:47:58,274
what to tell you there.
1328
00:47:58,276 --> 00:48:00,109
I may not have
press credentials,
1329
00:48:00,111 --> 00:48:03,379
but I have Photoshop
and a printer.
1330
00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,498
My heart was racing.
1331
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,968
After all this time,
I've almost made it,
1332
00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:02,305
and behind this door
was my destiny.
1333
00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:09,245
Actually I was wrong.
1334
00:49:09,247 --> 00:49:11,914
Behind that door
was the secret service.
1335
00:49:14,885 --> 00:49:16,218
Thank you.
1336
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:17,954
After a few
uncomfortable minutes
1337
00:49:17,956 --> 00:49:20,656
of explaining myself,
1338
00:49:20,658 --> 00:49:23,960
turns out the president's
people were kind of cool.
1339
00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:31,867
They even issued me
a white house press pass
1340
00:49:31,869 --> 00:49:34,203
for the event.
1341
00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:41,577
Hi. This is Bailey Webber.
1342
00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:43,980
I'm here from university
of Cincinnati
1343
00:49:43,982 --> 00:49:45,781
and I saw on the news
that senator Kearney
1344
00:49:45,783 --> 00:49:47,116
was gonna be here.
1345
00:49:47,118 --> 00:49:50,453
So I was hoping maybe
to get an interview with him.
1346
00:49:50,455 --> 00:49:53,456
I'm in the press area,
so it'd be great
1347
00:49:53,458 --> 00:49:55,891
if you give me a call back maybe
if you can come over here
1348
00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:57,560
and just talk to me.
That'd be great.
1349
00:49:57,562 --> 00:49:59,895
Thank you so much. Bye.
1350
00:50:01,598 --> 00:50:03,366
Maybe he's here.
1351
00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:13,909
Hello, Ohio.
1352
00:50:17,214 --> 00:50:19,015
Wow.
1353
00:50:19,017 --> 00:50:20,483
It's the president.
1354
00:50:22,153 --> 00:50:25,254
The fight just yet.
1355
00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:28,357
I am not ready to give up
on that fight.
1356
00:50:32,295 --> 00:50:34,397
Wait, Kearney's
right over there.
1357
00:50:34,399 --> 00:50:36,265
For those of you who
1358
00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:38,768
and still trying to open
their minds.
1359
00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:41,070
This is not just a choice
between two candidates
1360
00:50:41,072 --> 00:50:43,172
and two parties,
it's a choice between two
1361
00:50:43,174 --> 00:50:44,940
- different visions of America.
- Where is he?
1362
00:50:44,942 --> 00:50:46,242
He just left.
1363
00:50:46,244 --> 00:50:47,476
He was standing
right over there.
1364
00:50:47,478 --> 00:50:50,146
A choice between a return.
1365
00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,815
Hi, this is Bailey again
calling for the senator
1366
00:50:52,817 --> 00:50:54,417
and I see him right here.
1367
00:50:54,419 --> 00:50:56,819
I was wondering if he could
just come to the press area
1368
00:50:56,821 --> 00:50:58,554
so I can interview him
real quick
1369
00:50:58,556 --> 00:50:59,755
if that's all right.
1370
00:50:59,757 --> 00:51:01,724
Thank you so much. Bye.
1371
00:51:01,726 --> 00:51:03,759
In the past,
we feel the same way.
1372
00:51:03,761 --> 00:51:05,261
We want you first.
You don't...
1373
00:51:05,263 --> 00:51:07,763
Let's see if he comes.
1374
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:19,041
I got it.
1375
00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:23,312
That's him.
1376
00:51:23,314 --> 00:51:25,714
Yeah, that's him.
1377
00:51:29,153 --> 00:51:30,953
And so this can't make
1378
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,620
you have to want
the change, right?
1379
00:52:04,622 --> 00:52:06,455
And it starts
with the choices that you make,
1380
00:52:06,457 --> 00:52:08,524
and this is what I tell my kids,
1381
00:52:08,526 --> 00:52:10,960
make healthy choices, right?
1382
00:52:10,962 --> 00:52:12,495
It's comforting to think
1383
00:52:12,497 --> 00:52:14,897
it's diet and exercise,
1384
00:52:14,899 --> 00:52:18,100
because it's something
that feels controllable.
1385
00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:20,202
Just think about putting
a little more fruits
1386
00:52:20,204 --> 00:52:23,172
and vegetables on that tray
and then trying to eat them.
1387
00:52:23,174 --> 00:52:25,040
Can you do that?
1388
00:52:25,042 --> 00:52:26,809
Come on now.
1389
00:52:26,811 --> 00:52:28,377
There are a lot
of researchers out there that,
1390
00:52:28,379 --> 00:52:31,847
that will insist
it's a simple physics equation,
1391
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:33,482
energy in, energy out,
1392
00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:35,417
and it should be fine,
1393
00:52:35,419 --> 00:52:36,685
but that's not the case.
1394
00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:39,622
You have to be active
and move, right?
1395
00:52:39,624 --> 00:52:41,624
Can you help me with that?
1396
00:52:41,626 --> 00:52:43,159
Yes.
Yeah.
1397
00:52:43,161 --> 00:52:45,828
We need to stop
1398
00:52:45,830 --> 00:52:47,763
putting this on the kids
1399
00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:49,031
and saying it's your fault
1400
00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:51,333
or there's something
you're doing wrong.
1401
00:52:51,335 --> 00:52:52,568
We don't want whining.
1402
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:55,204
Can you help us by not whining
about a change?
1403
00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:56,839
You know,
to single out kids and say,
1404
00:52:56,841 --> 00:52:58,507
"you need to change
your behavior,
1405
00:52:58,509 --> 00:53:00,843
this number is a problem,"
1406
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:03,646
you know, it's not the number
that's the problem,
1407
00:53:03,648 --> 00:53:05,848
it's all of the other issues.
1408
00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:07,216
It's not one single thing,
1409
00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:10,119
it's gonna be 50,
60 different things
1410
00:53:10,121 --> 00:53:11,687
that we'll have to look at.
1411
00:53:11,689 --> 00:53:12,888
The truth of the matter is,
1412
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:14,657
there's a big problem
facing our country
1413
00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:16,258
and the solution
isn't that easy.
1414
00:53:18,228 --> 00:53:21,197
We have been offering eat less,
1415
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,599
move more
lifestyle modification,
1416
00:53:23,601 --> 00:53:25,201
which is all important,
1417
00:53:25,203 --> 00:53:26,969
but we have been offering
that treatment
1418
00:53:26,971 --> 00:53:29,071
for the last 50 years.
1419
00:53:29,073 --> 00:53:31,140
If it is that simple,
1420
00:53:31,142 --> 00:53:33,375
why are we talking
about obesity today?
1421
00:53:33,377 --> 00:53:35,678
Why is it not fixed 50 years ago
1422
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,747
if it was a simple cure?
1423
00:53:38,749 --> 00:53:41,050
Meet Dr. Nikhil Dhurandhar,
1424
00:53:41,052 --> 00:53:44,186
a physician with a masters
in nutrition sciences
1425
00:53:44,188 --> 00:53:46,555
and a PHD in biochemistry.
1426
00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:49,892
Many, many people,
when they hear the word obesity,
1427
00:53:49,894 --> 00:53:52,561
the first they think...
Probably think of
1428
00:53:52,563 --> 00:53:55,664
is that these people
who are suffering from obesity,
1429
00:53:55,666 --> 00:53:57,866
they have no willpower
1430
00:53:57,868 --> 00:53:59,468
or no self-discipline,
1431
00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:02,671
and that is what has caused
their obesity.
1432
00:54:02,673 --> 00:54:05,774
But remember that obesity
is a disease.
1433
00:54:05,776 --> 00:54:07,810
Yeah.
It chooses you,
1434
00:54:07,812 --> 00:54:09,945
you don't choose obesity.
1435
00:54:09,947 --> 00:54:11,914
Dr. Dhurandhar's lifework
1436
00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:14,817
has revolved
around researching obesity.
1437
00:54:14,819 --> 00:54:16,385
His dad is known as the father
1438
00:54:16,387 --> 00:54:18,988
of obesity practice in India,
1439
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:20,189
and he's not only the chair
1440
00:54:20,191 --> 00:54:22,992
and professor
of nutritional sciences
1441
00:54:22,994 --> 00:54:25,361
here at Texas tech university,
1442
00:54:25,363 --> 00:54:28,731
but he's also president
of the obesity society.
1443
00:54:28,733 --> 00:54:31,600
Maybe we should listen
to what he has to say.
1444
00:54:31,602 --> 00:54:33,168
But some people seem to think
1445
00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:34,870
they have inherent knowledge
1446
00:54:34,872 --> 00:54:37,439
about how to prevent
or treat obesity
1447
00:54:37,441 --> 00:54:39,308
without necessarily studying
1448
00:54:39,310 --> 00:54:41,677
the science of obesity
1449
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:44,847
and that's the dangerous part.
1450
00:54:44,849 --> 00:54:47,516
More scientists
learn about obesity,
1451
00:54:47,518 --> 00:54:49,418
more I learn about obesity,
1452
00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,453
more I learn what I don't know
1453
00:54:51,455 --> 00:54:54,456
and what we need to find out.
1454
00:54:54,458 --> 00:54:58,093
The danger comes
from simplifying the issue
1455
00:54:58,095 --> 00:55:00,663
considering this complex disease
1456
00:55:00,665 --> 00:55:03,632
as a simple matter of willpower.
1457
00:55:03,634 --> 00:55:05,734
And that's where
the danger comes
1458
00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:08,837
about assuming so many things
1459
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:10,873
that it is your choice
1460
00:55:10,875 --> 00:55:13,242
to become obese
and it's your choice
1461
00:55:13,244 --> 00:55:14,943
that you will remain obese.
1462
00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:16,045
Sleep, you know,
1463
00:55:16,047 --> 00:55:18,414
too much sleep
or too little sleep
1464
00:55:18,416 --> 00:55:21,984
is linked with obesity.
1465
00:55:21,986 --> 00:55:25,321
Environment of a baby
in mother's womb,
1466
00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:26,989
in uterus,
1467
00:55:26,991 --> 00:55:28,924
is linked with obesity
1468
00:55:28,926 --> 00:55:30,659
as well as many other
1469
00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:33,429
metabolic diseases
such as diabetes.
1470
00:55:33,431 --> 00:55:36,965
There are certain infections,
1471
00:55:36,967 --> 00:55:40,002
viral infections
or other microbes
1472
00:55:40,004 --> 00:55:42,538
that have been linked
with obesity in humans
1473
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:44,740
and having shown
to cause obesity
1474
00:55:44,742 --> 00:55:47,609
in various animal models.
1475
00:55:47,611 --> 00:55:50,179
So, the...
These are numerous factors
1476
00:55:50,181 --> 00:55:51,880
that are an...
What they call
1477
00:55:51,882 --> 00:55:54,683
as endocrine disruptors
1478
00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:56,418
so these are chemicals
1479
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:58,053
in our environment.
1480
00:55:58,055 --> 00:55:59,688
And there are people
1481
00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:01,256
who are investigating
1482
00:56:01,258 --> 00:56:04,593
if those chemicals
in our environment
1483
00:56:04,595 --> 00:56:06,895
are contributing to obesity.
1484
00:56:06,897 --> 00:56:09,398
So, intuitively,
1485
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,000
it sounds like it's only that
and exercise,
1486
00:56:12,002 --> 00:56:13,635
but what are the other factors
1487
00:56:13,637 --> 00:56:16,638
that maybe sort of superimposed
1488
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,575
on that diet and that activity
1489
00:56:19,577 --> 00:56:22,444
or that hunger and that satiety?
1490
00:56:22,446 --> 00:56:24,313
And that could be many.
1491
00:56:24,315 --> 00:56:25,381
Chemicals?
1492
00:56:25,383 --> 00:56:26,448
Microbes?
1493
00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:27,516
Infections?
1494
00:56:27,518 --> 00:56:28,817
Viruses?
1495
00:56:28,819 --> 00:56:31,019
If you find that
hard to believe,
1496
00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:33,422
hold on to your seats.
1497
00:56:33,424 --> 00:56:34,590
Look at this data
1498
00:56:34,592 --> 00:56:36,558
from the center
for disease control
1499
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,928
showing what an outbreak of flu
looks like.
1500
00:56:39,930 --> 00:56:41,864
As a contagious virus,
1501
00:56:41,866 --> 00:56:44,533
notice how it moves and spreads
1502
00:56:44,535 --> 00:56:46,235
exactly as we would expect
1503
00:56:46,237 --> 00:56:49,204
a contagion to do.
1504
00:56:49,206 --> 00:56:52,341
Now, here's a map
showing asthma.
1505
00:56:52,343 --> 00:56:53,909
As a non-contagion,
1506
00:56:53,911 --> 00:56:57,012
there is no pattern
whatsoever to its growth.
1507
00:56:57,014 --> 00:56:59,348
It appears random.
1508
00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:01,950
Now look at this data
1509
00:57:01,952 --> 00:57:04,887
also from the CDC.
1510
00:57:04,889 --> 00:57:08,791
This is the spread of obesity.
1511
00:57:08,793 --> 00:57:11,860
It spreads
exactly like a contagion.
1512
00:57:11,862 --> 00:57:13,829
It acts like a virus.
1513
00:57:13,831 --> 00:57:16,298
It moves.
1514
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:19,535
If obesity is only
about an individual's diet
1515
00:57:19,537 --> 00:57:21,136
and exercise,
1516
00:57:21,138 --> 00:57:24,006
how do we explain this?
1517
00:57:24,008 --> 00:57:26,008
The world health organization
1518
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:28,577
has declared that we,
1519
00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:29,878
as in the world,
1520
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,014
is in the middle of a global
1521
00:57:32,016 --> 00:57:34,550
obesity epidemic.
1522
00:57:34,552 --> 00:57:37,386
Every single country
is experiencing
1523
00:57:37,388 --> 00:57:40,055
increase in prevalence
of obesity,
1524
00:57:40,057 --> 00:57:43,091
and this phenomena is observed
1525
00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:46,061
only for the past few years.
1526
00:57:46,063 --> 00:57:47,296
What's going on?
1527
00:57:47,298 --> 00:57:49,064
Every population
is getting heavier
1528
00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:50,899
in the United States,
1529
00:57:50,901 --> 00:57:52,334
to some extent Canada,
1530
00:57:52,336 --> 00:57:54,970
- Britain definitely, Australia.
- Worldwide,
1531
00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:57,072
about twenty-two
million children
1532
00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,774
under the age of five
1533
00:57:58,776 --> 00:58:01,610
- are estimated to be overweight.
- Now one in five people
1534
00:58:01,612 --> 00:58:03,712
are overweight
or obese in China.
1535
00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:06,882
- More than 250 million people...
- Mexico has overtaken
1536
00:58:06,884 --> 00:58:08,083
the United States
1537
00:58:08,085 --> 00:58:09,885
in levels of adult obesity
1538
00:58:09,887 --> 00:58:12,221
according to a recent
united nations report.
1539
00:58:12,223 --> 00:58:14,323
There have been various
theories offered
1540
00:58:14,325 --> 00:58:17,259
why we're having
increase in obesity,
1541
00:58:17,261 --> 00:58:19,695
prevalence all over the world,
1542
00:58:19,697 --> 00:58:22,331
but not a single theory
1543
00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,399
explains situation
1544
00:58:24,401 --> 00:58:26,668
in every country.
1545
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:30,172
We have been focused
on obesity in humans,
1546
00:58:30,174 --> 00:58:31,740
but it has also been noticed
1547
00:58:31,742 --> 00:58:33,442
that while we're doing that
1548
00:58:33,444 --> 00:58:35,844
in past 20 years or so,
1549
00:58:35,846 --> 00:58:38,247
animals have been increasing
1550
00:58:38,249 --> 00:58:39,648
their weight as well
1551
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:41,517
and we don't know the reason.
1552
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,452
But it has been seen
1553
00:58:43,454 --> 00:58:45,754
that companies
1554
00:58:45,756 --> 00:58:47,089
that supply...
A certain company
1555
00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:49,591
that supply animals
for research,
1556
00:58:49,593 --> 00:58:52,661
they have animals
in very controlled environment,
1557
00:58:52,663 --> 00:58:54,630
and those animals
1558
00:58:54,632 --> 00:58:57,399
have also gained weight.
1559
00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:59,768
When we are talking
about obesity,
1560
00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:01,803
it's not only
in the United States,
1561
00:59:01,805 --> 00:59:04,172
it's many countries
in the world.
1562
00:59:04,174 --> 00:59:06,074
And, no, it's not only humans,
1563
00:59:06,076 --> 00:59:08,744
it's even animals
seem to be gaining
1564
00:59:08,746 --> 00:59:12,147
more weight in the recent past,
1565
00:59:12,149 --> 00:59:14,383
and what would be
a satisfactory,
1566
00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:16,051
like, explanation for that?
1567
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:18,387
I don't know.
1568
00:59:24,427 --> 00:59:28,030
It's
1569
00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:29,364
are in the building.
1570
00:59:29,366 --> 00:59:31,266
It's been seven months
and I'm calling
1571
00:59:31,268 --> 00:59:34,102
senator Kearney back
to schedule an interview,
1572
00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:35,938
and they told me
they'll email me,
1573
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:37,606
and then surprise, surprise,
1574
00:59:37,608 --> 00:59:40,776
they never emailed me back.
So, I'm calling again
1575
00:59:40,778 --> 00:59:42,411
- to see if it's impossible.
- You... it's not an issue.
1576
00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:43,879
No, no, no,
it's not an issue of gaining
1577
00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,147
additional information from you.
1578
00:59:45,149 --> 00:59:46,381
It's an issue of creating
a paper trail.
1579
00:59:46,383 --> 00:59:47,516
- Right. Um...
- One thing we do
1580
00:59:47,518 --> 00:59:49,685
is... I'm sorry?
1581
00:59:49,687 --> 00:59:51,820
Is there...
Is it possible for today
1582
00:59:51,822 --> 00:59:54,456
to pick a date
1583
00:59:54,458 --> 00:59:55,557
or are you guys busy?
1584
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,492
No, like it's over...
1585
00:59:57,494 --> 00:59:58,727
Yeah, I actually have a meeting
1586
00:59:58,729 --> 01:00:00,262
in six minutes and...
1587
01:00:00,264 --> 01:00:01,630
- Okay.
- If you can email it
1588
01:00:01,632 --> 01:00:03,365
to me then from you.
It's an issue of creating
1589
01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:05,467
a paper trail
in a way that we do in...
1590
01:00:05,469 --> 01:00:06,969
Can, um, we can pick a date
1591
01:00:06,971 --> 01:00:10,205
in six minutes,
1592
01:00:10,207 --> 01:00:11,707
is that all right?
1593
01:00:11,709 --> 01:00:13,075
Bailey, no.
1594
01:00:13,077 --> 01:00:15,110
You need to email me, Bailey.
I mean, I don't know
1595
01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,678
what's the deal.
Like, if I call,
1596
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,348
I can't schedule,
email can't schedule.
1597
01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:21,183
She tried to blame it on me
like it was my fault,
1598
01:00:21,185 --> 01:00:24,219
that I'm not emailing
the questions,
1599
01:00:24,221 --> 01:00:26,888
or maybe I'm not calling,
I'm not...
1600
01:00:26,890 --> 01:00:28,624
Working as hard as I should
1601
01:00:28,626 --> 01:00:30,525
for this interview.
1602
01:00:30,527 --> 01:00:32,327
I actually have emailed
lots of times
1603
01:00:32,329 --> 01:00:34,663
and nobody's gotten back
with me.
1604
01:00:34,665 --> 01:00:36,798
I've called like six times,
1605
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,134
I've emailed,
1606
01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:41,670
more than six times.
I don't get it,
1607
01:00:41,672 --> 01:00:43,105
like, why would you
be rude to me?
1608
01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:45,107
I'm not being rude,
I'm just being...
1609
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:46,975
I'm determined.
1610
01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:48,343
There's nothing wrong with that.
1611
01:00:48,345 --> 01:00:50,545
In here and send it to me.
1612
01:00:50,547 --> 01:00:51,880
I'll go over it with the senator
1613
01:00:51,882 --> 01:00:54,216
and I'll be happy to get back.
How far will I go?
1614
01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:57,853
I think I'll...
1615
01:00:57,855 --> 01:00:59,721
I think I've gone far enough.
1616
01:00:59,723 --> 01:01:01,089
It's been seven months,
1617
01:01:01,091 --> 01:01:02,424
why not seven more months?
1618
01:01:02,426 --> 01:01:04,092
How about a year?
1619
01:01:05,662 --> 01:01:07,629
And they, like,
make walls for me.
1620
01:01:07,631 --> 01:01:08,830
The walls treated me bad
1621
01:01:08,832 --> 01:01:11,400
and they treat me
and my friends bad
1622
01:01:11,402 --> 01:01:12,801
and now they're treating me bad
1623
01:01:12,803 --> 01:01:14,703
personally on the phone.
1624
01:01:18,474 --> 01:01:20,442
I don't know.
I didn't know about...
1625
01:01:20,444 --> 01:01:21,510
I didn't know
that our government
1626
01:01:21,512 --> 01:01:22,878
was like this.
1627
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,013
I guess this is, kind of,
like a learning experience,
1628
01:01:25,015 --> 01:01:27,516
but I will get his interview.
1629
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,654
You know, who gets to speak
1630
01:01:32,656 --> 01:01:35,490
and who gets spoken for
in our society
1631
01:01:35,492 --> 01:01:36,992
is an issue of power.
1632
01:01:36,994 --> 01:01:38,860
If I had a message to give
1633
01:01:38,862 --> 01:01:40,262
to young women,
1634
01:01:40,264 --> 01:01:42,197
to young people in general,
1635
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:44,733
I would say
nobody can give you your voice.
1636
01:01:44,735 --> 01:01:47,035
You have to claim your voice.
1637
01:01:49,473 --> 01:01:51,306
And you have to speak,
1638
01:01:51,308 --> 01:01:52,708
and if they don't hear you,
1639
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:53,775
you have to speak,
1640
01:01:53,777 --> 01:01:56,344
and speak, and speak again.
1641
01:01:56,346 --> 01:01:58,814
If they're not willing
to listen,
1642
01:01:58,816 --> 01:02:02,017
you have to say it again
and knock on a different door.
1643
01:02:06,689 --> 01:02:08,090
Hi.
1644
01:02:08,092 --> 01:02:10,058
Do you know where
the senate session is gonna be?
1645
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,760
Yeah. Upstairs.
1646
01:02:11,762 --> 01:02:13,328
Okay, cool.
Thank you.
1647
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:15,297
If they're still not
willing to hear,
1648
01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:17,332
well then maybe they need
to move over
1649
01:02:17,334 --> 01:02:19,267
so that those banded together
young people
1650
01:02:19,269 --> 01:02:22,571
can make the change
that's needed themselves.
1651
01:02:32,148 --> 01:02:34,182
This place is huge.
1652
01:02:34,184 --> 01:02:36,017
I don't know where I'm going.
1653
01:02:45,729 --> 01:02:47,429
Hi.
Hi. Do you know
1654
01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:49,865
if senator Kearney
is gonna be in here
1655
01:02:49,867 --> 01:02:51,199
for the hearing?
Senator who?
1656
01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:52,367
Kearney.
I don't know.
1657
01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:53,502
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
1658
01:02:53,504 --> 01:02:54,669
Okay. That's fine.
I'm not sure, honestly.
1659
01:02:54,671 --> 01:02:55,771
Okay. Thank you.
1660
01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:57,806
Yeah, I recognize
that guy over there.
1661
01:02:57,808 --> 01:02:59,207
He was one of the people
at the hearing
1662
01:02:59,209 --> 01:03:00,809
who spoke out against...
1663
01:03:00,811 --> 01:03:02,444
Or for the waver
and he explained
1664
01:03:02,446 --> 01:03:04,980
that and he said
that to pretty much lie
1665
01:03:04,982 --> 01:03:06,581
if it's not a financial burden
1666
01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:10,218
to put down for the waver.
1667
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:12,387
So he's one of the makers.
1668
01:03:12,389 --> 01:03:14,623
Hi.
I watched the hearing...
1669
01:03:14,625 --> 01:03:16,458
I said I'm doing this project,
1670
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:17,859
on childhood obesity
1671
01:03:17,861 --> 01:03:20,862
and I heard that he spoke out
1672
01:03:20,864 --> 01:03:23,165
at this during the bill
couple of years ago
1673
01:03:23,167 --> 01:03:25,767
and I'd like to get
his perspective on it.
1674
01:03:25,769 --> 01:03:27,402
And he was like,
"oh, sure, yeah,
1675
01:03:27,404 --> 01:03:28,470
we can do that."
1676
01:03:28,472 --> 01:03:29,938
And then turned around.
1677
01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:32,040
He didn't seem like he wanted
to talk right now.
1678
01:03:32,042 --> 01:03:33,375
It's kind of awkward.
I stayed in there
1679
01:03:33,377 --> 01:03:34,576
for a little bit, like,
1680
01:03:34,578 --> 01:03:36,745
"I guess this conversation
is over."
1681
01:03:36,747 --> 01:03:38,780
I was just like,
"um, don't get up.
1682
01:03:38,782 --> 01:03:40,081
I can see myself out."
1683
01:03:45,321 --> 01:03:46,421
Six.
Okay. Upstairs?
1684
01:03:46,423 --> 01:03:48,356
Ground floor and
1685
01:03:48,358 --> 01:03:50,792
okay. Cool.
1686
01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:54,262
Six.
1687
01:03:58,568 --> 01:03:59,901
Here we are.
1688
01:03:59,903 --> 01:04:02,504
Senator Kearney's office.
1689
01:04:02,506 --> 01:04:05,073
I can't believe it.
1690
01:04:05,075 --> 01:04:07,742
Senator, minority leader.
1691
01:04:08,744 --> 01:04:11,513
Let's get the interview.
1692
01:04:39,942 --> 01:04:41,910
Hi. Mr. senator.
1693
01:05:05,835 --> 01:05:07,669
I got the interview.
We're gonna schedule.
1694
01:05:07,671 --> 01:05:10,305
I'm gonna scoop out some areas
in place.
1695
01:05:10,307 --> 01:05:11,606
They're really nice.
1696
01:05:11,608 --> 01:05:13,008
And, oh, yeah, that's not all.
1697
01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:15,343
I met with senator Kearney,
he was right there.
1698
01:05:15,345 --> 01:05:18,246
He just kind of came in
and then I introduced myself
1699
01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,148
and I kind of was surprised.
1700
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:21,216
They're gonna email me back
1701
01:05:21,218 --> 01:05:22,684
and we'll pick the location
1702
01:05:22,686 --> 01:05:24,719
and we're gonna pick a date,
1703
01:05:24,721 --> 01:05:27,422
so I'm gonna get the interview.
1704
01:06:02,925 --> 01:06:05,260
Hi, Bailey. How are you?
Very good.
1705
01:06:05,262 --> 01:06:07,329
Hi. Yeah, tell me
what I should do.
1706
01:06:07,331 --> 01:06:09,331
Okay. Would you mind
sitting there?
1707
01:06:09,333 --> 01:06:10,732
I'll sit wherever you tell me.
1708
01:06:10,734 --> 01:06:12,934
Okay. Cool.
1709
01:06:15,972 --> 01:06:18,273
Okay.
Is this all good?
1710
01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:20,809
And, like, I watched
the hearings and stuff
1711
01:06:20,811 --> 01:06:22,177
and so, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, you did?
1712
01:06:22,179 --> 01:06:23,812
They're online.
Oh.
1713
01:06:23,814 --> 01:06:25,380
And so... yeah,
so I became,
1714
01:06:25,382 --> 01:06:27,382
like, very knowledgeable
about all of that.
1715
01:06:28,517 --> 01:06:29,884
We have limited time.
I'm gonna, kind of,
1716
01:06:29,886 --> 01:06:32,587
skip the first part.
1717
01:06:32,589 --> 01:06:35,290
Do you still recommend
that schools continue to do
1718
01:06:35,292 --> 01:06:37,025
BMI tests and send out letters
1719
01:06:37,027 --> 01:06:38,994
to kids who are overweight?
1720
01:06:38,996 --> 01:06:41,696
Yes, I think BMI testing
is very important
1721
01:06:41,698 --> 01:06:44,532
and the way that it was designed
1722
01:06:44,534 --> 01:06:47,068
was... schools
wouldn't report
1723
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:50,305
by school districts or by, um,
1724
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:53,174
or by individual schools,
they will report by county.
1725
01:06:53,176 --> 01:06:55,877
And so that way,
we could get the data,
1726
01:06:55,879 --> 01:06:57,512
the state could have
that information
1727
01:06:57,514 --> 01:07:00,382
and we could see if over time,
1728
01:07:00,384 --> 01:07:01,483
the things that we're doing,
1729
01:07:01,485 --> 01:07:02,550
the steps that we're taking
1730
01:07:02,552 --> 01:07:05,453
like incorporating gym class,
1731
01:07:05,455 --> 01:07:08,723
reducing the availability
of sugary drinks,
1732
01:07:08,725 --> 01:07:11,760
including healthy food
during lunchtime,
1733
01:07:11,762 --> 01:07:15,163
if that's working,
and if Ohio's children's BMI
1734
01:07:15,165 --> 01:07:16,965
is going down.
1735
01:07:16,967 --> 01:07:18,433
So I still support it.
1736
01:07:18,435 --> 01:07:20,502
Once you find out
some health information
1737
01:07:20,504 --> 01:07:23,405
about a student
that their BMI is elevated
1738
01:07:23,407 --> 01:07:26,174
or above the acceptable range,
1739
01:07:26,176 --> 01:07:29,344
we felt it was a responsible
thing to do
1740
01:07:29,346 --> 01:07:30,945
to inform the parent
1741
01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:33,181
and let the parent
make the decision.
1742
01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:34,949
Are you saying,
like, that parents,
1743
01:07:34,951 --> 01:07:37,552
like, they don't know
that their child is overweight?
1744
01:07:37,554 --> 01:07:38,820
Well, they may not know
1745
01:07:38,822 --> 01:07:40,822
that their child is overweight
1746
01:07:40,824 --> 01:07:43,324
compared to certain statistics.
1747
01:07:43,326 --> 01:07:45,660
So for instance,
you might look at someone
1748
01:07:45,662 --> 01:07:46,795
and look at your child
and think,
1749
01:07:46,797 --> 01:07:48,663
"oh, my child
is perfectly healthy,"
1750
01:07:48,665 --> 01:07:49,864
and not realize that,
1751
01:07:49,866 --> 01:07:51,699
well, there's certain
health risks
1752
01:07:51,701 --> 01:07:52,901
that may be associated
1753
01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:55,737
with their current weight
or body.
1754
01:07:55,739 --> 01:07:58,173
So it's just to inform them
1755
01:07:58,175 --> 01:07:59,307
about it.
Okay.
1756
01:07:59,309 --> 01:08:02,977
And like, you know,
like kids go to doctors,
1757
01:08:02,979 --> 01:08:05,547
are you saying that,
like, the doctors
1758
01:08:05,549 --> 01:08:08,049
don't know
that they're overweight?
1759
01:08:08,051 --> 01:08:09,818
Well, doctors may know
1760
01:08:09,820 --> 01:08:11,653
but doctors may not inform them
1761
01:08:11,655 --> 01:08:14,055
that the BMI is above
1762
01:08:14,057 --> 01:08:15,290
an acceptable range
1763
01:08:15,292 --> 01:08:17,258
or that the child is overweight
1764
01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:18,426
and what to do about it.
1765
01:08:18,428 --> 01:08:20,328
I know that when I take
my children
1766
01:08:20,330 --> 01:08:22,197
to the pediatrician,
1767
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:23,932
the pediatrician
takes their weight,
1768
01:08:23,934 --> 01:08:25,633
writes it down
on a piece of paper,
1769
01:08:25,635 --> 01:08:27,735
and that's the last
you hear about it.
1770
01:08:27,737 --> 01:08:29,137
Oh, yeah.
So they never talk
1771
01:08:29,139 --> 01:08:31,973
about the weight, um...
1772
01:08:31,975 --> 01:08:34,709
And my school
did BMI testing on us.
1773
01:08:34,711 --> 01:08:36,211
Lots of kids got these letters
1774
01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:37,979
including my friend, Maddie.
1775
01:08:37,981 --> 01:08:39,247
Uh-hmm.
1776
01:08:39,249 --> 01:08:42,684
This is the letter she received.
1777
01:08:42,686 --> 01:08:46,054
Here.
Oh, okay.
1778
01:08:46,056 --> 01:08:47,722
I take it Maddie
didn't like this letter.
1779
01:08:47,724 --> 01:08:49,057
No.
1780
01:08:50,493 --> 01:08:53,094
Yeah, she got this letter
in her report card.
1781
01:08:53,096 --> 01:08:54,496
She was so excite
to see her grades.
1782
01:08:54,498 --> 01:08:56,197
She's an a student.
1783
01:08:56,199 --> 01:08:58,700
And she see...
She pulls out the letter,
1784
01:08:58,702 --> 01:09:00,435
as frustrated
as she was already,
1785
01:09:00,437 --> 01:09:01,936
she just ripped it up
1786
01:09:01,938 --> 01:09:03,638
and threw it in the trash can.
1787
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,306
And her mom found it
1788
01:09:05,308 --> 01:09:07,375
and taped it together
1789
01:09:07,377 --> 01:09:10,311
and almost made her
go into depression
1790
01:09:10,313 --> 01:09:13,548
and she... it ruined
her entire summer.
1791
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:16,184
It was pretty hard for her.
1792
01:09:16,186 --> 01:09:19,521
Okay. So, she didn't like
1793
01:09:19,523 --> 01:09:21,656
getting the letter at all.
1794
01:09:21,658 --> 01:09:24,092
No, she was already aware
1795
01:09:24,094 --> 01:09:27,495
and this did nothing
to help her.
1796
01:09:27,497 --> 01:09:29,531
Hmm. Well, I'm sorry
1797
01:09:29,533 --> 01:09:31,232
about your friend, Maddie.
Yes.
1798
01:09:31,234 --> 01:09:33,067
And it seems like it was
very disturbing
1799
01:09:33,069 --> 01:09:35,503
by, um, by the letter
1800
01:09:35,505 --> 01:09:38,039
but I mean, hmm,
1801
01:09:38,041 --> 01:09:39,140
some of the...
Some of the things
1802
01:09:39,142 --> 01:09:41,276
that the letter says is,
1803
01:09:41,278 --> 01:09:42,977
um, well,
1804
01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:44,479
I can't read all of it
because, you know,
1805
01:09:44,481 --> 01:09:46,548
part of it is missing.
Yeah, it says not go on a diet
1806
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:47,916
and to see her doctor.
Uh-hmm.
1807
01:09:47,918 --> 01:09:50,318
But other than that,
there's nothing else
1808
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,154
that is helping her
1809
01:09:53,156 --> 01:09:55,557
like an educational tool
besides saying,
1810
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:56,691
"you're high in your weight,"
1811
01:09:56,693 --> 01:09:58,793
like it even
highlights it there.
1812
01:09:58,795 --> 01:10:00,562
Yeah, right.
So, her mom
1813
01:10:00,564 --> 01:10:01,996
was pretty upset by it
1814
01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:03,398
and how, kind of...
Oh, she was?
1815
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,465
Yeah.
Uh-hmm.
1816
01:10:04,467 --> 01:10:06,434
She... they're very aware.
1817
01:10:06,436 --> 01:10:07,769
And actually, her mom,
1818
01:10:07,771 --> 01:10:09,070
she knows a lot about health
1819
01:10:09,072 --> 01:10:11,139
and they have a garden
in their backyard.
1820
01:10:11,141 --> 01:10:13,441
Can you, like, understand
how they might feel
1821
01:10:13,443 --> 01:10:15,677
and how these letters
might be going out
1822
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:19,447
to kids who aren't
necessarily healthy
1823
01:10:19,449 --> 01:10:22,283
and actually shouldn't be
getting the letter?
1824
01:10:22,285 --> 01:10:24,419
No, I think everyone
should get the letter
1825
01:10:24,421 --> 01:10:27,055
if they went through
the BMI test,
1826
01:10:27,057 --> 01:10:29,757
because it just says
whether you're above,
1827
01:10:29,759 --> 01:10:30,959
below, or in the...
1828
01:10:30,961 --> 01:10:32,227
In the acceptable range,
1829
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:33,661
that's all it says.
1830
01:10:33,663 --> 01:10:36,164
And what you do with it
1831
01:10:36,166 --> 01:10:37,832
or how you react to it
is something...
1832
01:10:37,834 --> 01:10:39,067
Is something different.
1833
01:10:39,069 --> 01:10:41,469
I can perfectly understand
how some people
1834
01:10:41,471 --> 01:10:43,171
would be offended by the...
1835
01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:44,672
By the letter, but overall,
1836
01:10:44,674 --> 01:10:46,507
I think that the goal
of what we're trying
1837
01:10:46,509 --> 01:10:48,243
to accomplish through the bill
1838
01:10:48,245 --> 01:10:51,913
and the implementation
of the law,
1839
01:10:51,915 --> 01:10:53,648
are worthwhile goals.
1840
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:55,116
I guess just Maddie
1841
01:10:55,118 --> 01:10:56,784
and kids who are like Maddie
1842
01:10:56,786 --> 01:10:59,354
are just, kind of,
collateral damage
1843
01:10:59,356 --> 01:11:01,089
in this study?
1844
01:11:01,091 --> 01:11:04,626
Well, I wouldn't call them
collateral damage,
1845
01:11:04,628 --> 01:11:05,927
I mean, I'm very sorry
1846
01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,396
that Maddie feels this way
1847
01:11:08,398 --> 01:11:10,198
but I think that there are
some good things
1848
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,333
that the bill is trying
to accomplish.
1849
01:11:12,335 --> 01:11:13,534
Perhaps the execution
1850
01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:15,503
wasn't the way
that we envisioned
1851
01:11:15,505 --> 01:11:17,839
but, certainly, I wouldn't...
1852
01:11:17,841 --> 01:11:19,874
I wouldn't use that phrase
as collateral damage.
1853
01:11:19,876 --> 01:11:21,142
Okay.
I don't... no,
1854
01:11:21,144 --> 01:11:22,277
I don't think of them that way.
1855
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:23,778
Okay.
So you just wish
1856
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:25,313
that never happened to her
1857
01:11:25,315 --> 01:11:26,447
and people who are like her?
1858
01:11:26,449 --> 01:11:28,983
Well, I wish her reaction
weren't the...
1859
01:11:28,985 --> 01:11:31,119
Weren't the way that it happened
1860
01:11:31,121 --> 01:11:32,387
- and I wish that...
- Wow,
1861
01:11:32,389 --> 01:11:35,890
the senator's constant
blaming is unbearable.
1862
01:11:35,892 --> 01:11:37,492
Parents are clueless.
1863
01:11:37,494 --> 01:11:39,761
Doctors are incompetent.
1864
01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:41,329
And if you're upset
about being profiled
1865
01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:42,597
and bullied,
1866
01:11:42,599 --> 01:11:45,733
you're just reacting
the wrong way.
1867
01:11:45,735 --> 01:11:47,902
But of everything that was said,
1868
01:11:47,904 --> 01:11:50,338
this was the most bizarre.
1869
01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:52,907
Yeah, we should find out
1870
01:11:52,909 --> 01:11:56,010
why they're sending
those letters out.
1871
01:11:56,012 --> 01:11:57,612
Wait, what?
Why are they sending
1872
01:11:57,614 --> 01:11:59,113
these letters out?
1873
01:11:59,115 --> 01:12:01,316
You've written a law
forcing them to.
1874
01:12:02,418 --> 01:12:03,885
That's it.
1875
01:12:03,887 --> 01:12:06,721
It's time to do
what I came here for.
1876
01:12:07,690 --> 01:12:10,124
I'm gonna get something.
1877
01:12:18,267 --> 01:12:21,035
So, just like you did,
1878
01:12:21,037 --> 01:12:23,371
I'm doing my own BMI study
1879
01:12:23,373 --> 01:12:24,806
with my documentary.
1880
01:12:24,808 --> 01:12:26,341
Uh-hmm.
1881
01:12:26,343 --> 01:12:27,508
If you wouldn't mind,
would you please step
1882
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:29,777
on the scale?
Why?
1883
01:12:29,779 --> 01:12:33,681
Because I'm doing my own
private BMI test.
1884
01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:34,916
I don't understand.
I mean, with everybody
1885
01:12:34,918 --> 01:12:35,983
I interview, I ask them
1886
01:12:35,985 --> 01:12:37,719
if they would like
to get on the scale,
1887
01:12:37,721 --> 01:12:38,786
because kids at our school,
1888
01:12:38,788 --> 01:12:39,821
they had to get on the scale
1889
01:12:39,823 --> 01:12:41,989
to be weighed for BMI test.
1890
01:12:41,991 --> 01:12:44,158
Okay. I'm willing
to do it
1891
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,626
but I think it was only fair
1892
01:12:45,628 --> 01:12:47,228
to let me know
that you're gonna do
1893
01:12:47,230 --> 01:12:49,130
stuff like that beforehand,
1894
01:12:49,132 --> 01:12:51,299
but okay, I mean I'll do BMI.
1895
01:12:51,301 --> 01:12:52,867
Okay.
Do you want me to step on it
1896
01:12:52,869 --> 01:12:54,836
with my shoes
or without my shoes?
1897
01:12:54,838 --> 01:12:57,171
Oh, you can... you can take off
your shoes if you want.
1898
01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:58,439
Okay. I don't wanna
mess up your scale
1899
01:12:58,441 --> 01:12:59,707
so I'm asking you
for that reason.
1900
01:12:59,709 --> 01:13:01,275
Yeah, it'll be okay.
Okay.
1901
01:13:17,459 --> 01:13:18,926
We'll weigh...
1902
01:13:18,928 --> 01:13:20,261
The entire documentary?
1903
01:13:20,263 --> 01:13:21,763
The entire documentary.
1904
01:13:21,765 --> 01:13:24,899
The entire documentary
is about...
1905
01:13:24,901 --> 01:13:26,467
Childhood obesity,
1906
01:13:26,469 --> 01:13:29,470
but one part of it is about
1907
01:13:29,472 --> 01:13:31,739
and how
1908
01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:34,108
I don't know...
I don't know what that means.
1909
01:13:34,110 --> 01:13:36,911
Oh, a hundred
and ninety-three.
1910
01:13:36,913 --> 01:13:37,945
You mean in terms of my weight?
1911
01:13:37,947 --> 01:13:40,047
Yeah.
No.
1912
01:13:40,049 --> 01:13:42,316
What?
Did he say, no?
1913
01:13:42,318 --> 01:13:44,318
I guess we've all been there
at some point.
1914
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,188
Looking down at that number
in disbelief,
1915
01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:50,291
telling the scales, "no."
1916
01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:51,659
After spending an awkward moment
1917
01:13:51,661 --> 01:13:53,961
debating whether scales
are more accurate
1918
01:13:53,963 --> 01:13:55,630
on carpet or tile,
1919
01:13:55,632 --> 01:13:58,533
the senator finally agreed
to his weight.
1920
01:13:58,535 --> 01:14:00,067
We can just use this number.
1921
01:14:00,069 --> 01:14:01,903
It's 19... it says 193.
1922
01:14:01,905 --> 01:14:04,539
Yeah.
I'm 72 inches.
1923
01:14:06,909 --> 01:14:08,209
Thank you for doing that.
1924
01:14:08,211 --> 01:14:10,077
Okay. Well, I don't
have a problem.
1925
01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:11,712
I mean...
Just some people...
1926
01:14:11,714 --> 01:14:13,981
If you wanna know my BMI,
I don't...
1927
01:14:13,983 --> 01:14:15,450
I don't mind that.
Some people feel like
1928
01:14:15,452 --> 01:14:18,152
being weighed is uncomfortable
1929
01:14:18,154 --> 01:14:19,287
and they only think
it's for them
1930
01:14:19,289 --> 01:14:21,456
and their doctor.
1931
01:14:23,425 --> 01:14:24,992
Okay, well...
Can you understand how...
1932
01:14:24,994 --> 01:14:26,961
People can have...
Can have that opinion.
1933
01:14:26,963 --> 01:14:28,663
Sure.
Yeah. Do you feel like I,
1934
01:14:28,665 --> 01:14:30,465
kind of, crossed my boundaries
1935
01:14:30,467 --> 01:14:33,568
asking you
to do something personal
1936
01:14:33,570 --> 01:14:36,904
that's between you
and your doctor?
1937
01:14:36,906 --> 01:14:38,439
No, this is what I think.
1938
01:14:38,441 --> 01:14:40,741
If you had told me beforehand,
1939
01:14:40,743 --> 01:14:42,276
I would have been
more than happy
1940
01:14:42,278 --> 01:14:44,645
to agree to do that.
1941
01:14:46,114 --> 01:14:48,282
So, you know,
1942
01:14:48,284 --> 01:14:49,884
if you wanna know my BMI,
1943
01:14:49,886 --> 01:14:52,453
it's not really quite frankly
that personal.
1944
01:14:52,455 --> 01:14:54,021
- I don't really mind it.
- Yeah.
1945
01:14:54,023 --> 01:14:55,990
Or if somebody wants
to know my weight,
1946
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:57,825
- that's okay, too.
- You seem very fit,
1947
01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:00,228
but what about,
like, overweight kids,
1948
01:15:00,230 --> 01:15:02,063
can you understand
how overweight kids
1949
01:15:02,065 --> 01:15:05,099
feel uncomfortable?
Yes. Yes.
1950
01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:06,968
I understand.
I'm empathetic to that.
1951
01:15:06,970 --> 01:15:08,636
Yeah? Okay.
Certainly.
1952
01:15:18,113 --> 01:15:19,981
You can look at a person
1953
01:15:19,983 --> 01:15:22,550
and tell that person
has obesity or not
1954
01:15:22,552 --> 01:15:24,752
because a person, unfortunately,
1955
01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:27,021
wears that disease
on their body.
1956
01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:29,390
You don't need
a special screening
1957
01:15:29,392 --> 01:15:32,226
to find that out.
1958
01:15:33,328 --> 01:15:37,098
And perhaps that makes people
1959
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,134
jump to give helpful advice
1960
01:15:40,136 --> 01:15:42,103
to those who are suffering
1961
01:15:42,105 --> 01:15:44,272
from that disease, obesity.
1962
01:15:44,274 --> 01:15:46,073
But trust me,
those people know that.
1963
01:15:46,075 --> 01:15:47,308
They don't... you don't need
1964
01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:49,176
to tell somebody have...
1965
01:15:49,178 --> 01:15:51,479
That they have obesity or not.
1966
01:15:51,481 --> 01:15:52,547
You may have to tell somebody
1967
01:15:52,549 --> 01:15:54,048
whether they have
diabetes or not
1968
01:15:54,050 --> 01:15:55,816
or high blood pressure or not,
1969
01:15:55,818 --> 01:15:57,418
but you don't need
to tell somebody
1970
01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:58,819
who has obesity or not.
1971
01:15:58,821 --> 01:16:01,489
They... that person knows that.
1972
01:16:01,491 --> 01:16:04,625
The assumption behind
telling somebody
1973
01:16:04,627 --> 01:16:06,027
that you have obesity,
1974
01:16:06,029 --> 01:16:07,595
the assumption is,
1975
01:16:07,597 --> 01:16:09,497
that person is choosing
1976
01:16:09,499 --> 01:16:11,499
not to lose weight.
1977
01:16:11,501 --> 01:16:15,403
And that is a very wrong
assumption.
1978
01:16:15,405 --> 01:16:17,305
So simply pointing out
1979
01:16:17,307 --> 01:16:19,540
that you have more bodyweight
1980
01:16:19,542 --> 01:16:20,875
means nothing
1981
01:16:20,877 --> 01:16:22,343
in terms of that person
1982
01:16:22,345 --> 01:16:23,945
being able to take
1983
01:16:23,947 --> 01:16:26,747
a meaningful corrective action.
1984
01:16:28,116 --> 01:16:31,252
210 divided by...
1985
01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:34,155
72 squared.
Seventy-two squared.
1986
01:16:34,157 --> 01:16:37,091
That's, seven... okay.
1987
01:16:37,093 --> 01:16:39,493
So that's 28.4.
1988
01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:41,662
Okay, let's see right here.
1989
01:16:41,664 --> 01:16:44,565
That isn't... on here,
1990
01:16:44,567 --> 01:16:46,734
it's such a narrow range.
1991
01:16:46,736 --> 01:16:48,903
- Uh-hmm.
- For the healthy weight.
1992
01:16:48,905 --> 01:16:50,037
Yeah, that's over...
1993
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,106
So forty-four,
three.
1994
01:16:52,108 --> 01:16:53,474
Yeah, that's obese.
1995
01:16:53,476 --> 01:16:55,676
Yeah.
Okay.
1996
01:16:55,678 --> 01:16:58,746
200 divided by...
1997
01:16:58,748 --> 01:17:00,081
66 squared.
1998
01:17:00,083 --> 01:17:02,617
Squared
1999
01:17:02,619 --> 01:17:04,585
okay.
2000
01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:07,421
- He is overweight.
- Okay.
2001
01:17:07,423 --> 01:17:09,423
Get that up there.
Okay, the next one.
2002
01:17:09,425 --> 01:17:12,393
Okay, okay.
Okay, here.
2003
01:17:14,329 --> 01:17:16,464
Oh, that's just shocking.
2004
01:17:16,466 --> 01:17:17,932
All these people
voted for the goal
2005
01:17:17,934 --> 01:17:20,534
and most of them
2006
01:17:20,536 --> 01:17:22,503
this is interesting.
Oh, my gosh.
2007
01:17:22,505 --> 01:17:24,705
Yeah.
There's only three people
2008
01:17:24,707 --> 01:17:26,040
that meet it.
2009
01:17:26,042 --> 01:17:27,875
Yeah, and all
these people wanted,
2010
01:17:27,877 --> 01:17:28,943
like, this bill to happen
2011
01:17:28,945 --> 01:17:31,278
and they all themselves
2012
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,513
are overweight or obese.
2013
01:17:32,515 --> 01:17:33,781
Like, how can you talk?
2014
01:17:33,783 --> 01:17:34,849
Yeah. And how
could you bully
2015
01:17:34,851 --> 01:17:36,150
someone else and being like,
2016
01:17:36,152 --> 01:17:37,418
"you don't fit
the standards?"
2017
01:17:37,420 --> 01:17:38,486
But...
Yeah.
2018
01:17:38,488 --> 01:17:40,421
We're gonna... we're gonna try
to change that.
2019
01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:45,993
So we're here
at the state house.
2020
01:17:45,995 --> 01:17:47,361
We're delivering the fat letters
2021
01:17:47,363 --> 01:17:49,196
that we've been working on
2022
01:17:49,198 --> 01:17:50,798
to the senators
who voted for the bill
2023
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,466
and it says their BMI,
2024
01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:54,168
it has the same language
2025
01:17:54,170 --> 01:17:56,137
as the letter
that Maddie received.
2026
01:17:56,139 --> 01:17:58,239
And we're gonna go up there
and deliver them together
2027
01:17:58,241 --> 01:17:59,907
and so just holding them
2028
01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:02,476
to the same standards
just like they did to us.
2029
01:18:03,478 --> 01:18:06,447
Over there.
Yeah.
2030
01:18:06,449 --> 01:18:08,516
All right.
Let's go.
2031
01:18:11,853 --> 01:18:14,055
Here it is.
2032
01:18:14,057 --> 01:18:16,057
We found it.
2033
01:18:17,592 --> 01:18:20,361
Hold this.
Oops.
2034
01:18:21,496 --> 01:18:23,931
All right.
Are you ready?
2035
01:18:26,468 --> 01:18:29,036
All right
2036
01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:55,863
yeah, I mean, I understand that.
2037
01:19:04,339 --> 01:19:06,440
When we were walking
on the hallway
2038
01:19:06,442 --> 01:19:09,543
like getting ready to,
like, deliver it
2039
01:19:09,545 --> 01:19:11,545
and one of the senators
walked out,
2040
01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:12,880
it just... it all hit me
at once.
2041
01:19:12,882 --> 01:19:16,217
It became real
and then when we, like,
2042
01:19:16,219 --> 01:19:19,420
went up to her office
and we saw her nameplate,
2043
01:19:19,422 --> 01:19:21,455
I just...
2044
01:19:21,457 --> 01:19:23,557
It felt so wrong
because she's a real person.
2045
01:19:23,559 --> 01:19:26,293
She wasn't just a face
on the Internet.
2046
01:19:26,295 --> 01:19:28,362
I mean, she was
just like me and you,
2047
01:19:28,364 --> 01:19:31,298
and I know I felt
and I felt crushed
2048
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:33,033
and horrible by myself.
2049
01:19:33,035 --> 01:19:35,002
I felt like I didn't
belong anywhere.
2050
01:19:35,004 --> 01:19:36,370
And I would never
2051
01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:38,806
wanna make anyone feel that way.
2052
01:19:38,808 --> 01:19:40,541
I'm sorry that I've... like,
2053
01:19:40,543 --> 01:19:43,210
we talked about this
and I was so ready to do this.
2054
01:19:43,212 --> 01:19:44,411
Yeah.
I came here wanting
2055
01:19:44,413 --> 01:19:47,648
to do this and I just...
2056
01:19:47,650 --> 01:19:49,950
It just made me feel bad
2057
01:19:49,952 --> 01:19:51,986
when I received the letter.
2058
01:19:51,988 --> 01:19:54,221
I mean, I felt uncomfortable
about it, too.
2059
01:19:54,223 --> 01:19:55,389
I thought it was mean
2060
01:19:55,391 --> 01:19:56,490
but I mean, then again,
2061
01:19:56,492 --> 01:19:57,825
I just had in my head
holding them
2062
01:19:57,827 --> 01:19:58,893
to the same standards,
2063
01:19:58,895 --> 01:20:01,896
but I understand.
2064
01:20:01,898 --> 01:20:04,198
I'm glad you stepped up.
2065
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,734
I just couldn't go
through with it.
2066
01:20:06,736 --> 01:20:08,402
I feel bad because I was like,
2067
01:20:08,404 --> 01:20:10,404
"here, I'll give it
to him ."
2068
01:20:10,406 --> 01:20:12,573
Like, I was stepping up for you.
2069
01:20:12,575 --> 01:20:14,108
But then you're right,
2070
01:20:14,110 --> 01:20:15,976
it wasn't the right thing to do.
2071
01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:17,144
Well, I mean,
I guess you could be
2072
01:20:17,146 --> 01:20:19,346
a good bureaucrat
because, I mean...
2073
01:20:19,348 --> 01:20:20,781
Because I don't have feelings?
2074
01:20:20,783 --> 01:20:22,850
Yes, because you don't have
any feelings.
2075
01:20:22,852 --> 01:20:24,218
Well, actually,
hold that thought.
2076
01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:25,886
I still have the letters.
2077
01:20:25,888 --> 01:20:27,755
So when you leave,
I'm going back up there
2078
01:20:27,757 --> 01:20:30,457
and I'm giving some senators
some letters.
2079
01:20:30,459 --> 01:20:31,525
Oh, my gosh.
You would make
2080
01:20:31,527 --> 01:20:33,727
a perfect bureaucrat.
2081
01:20:33,729 --> 01:20:35,629
When I see young people
2082
01:20:35,631 --> 01:20:37,398
using their experience,
2083
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,767
using their insight
2084
01:20:39,769 --> 01:20:41,602
to speak up
2085
01:20:41,604 --> 01:20:42,970
and speak out,
2086
01:20:42,972 --> 01:20:45,506
it's so wonderful.
2087
01:20:45,508 --> 01:20:47,308
And it does give me hope.
2088
01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:49,109
It can bring about change
2089
01:20:49,111 --> 01:20:50,377
on a personal level
2090
01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:52,379
and the other
really amazing thing
2091
01:20:52,381 --> 01:20:54,148
is that it can bring
about change
2092
01:20:54,150 --> 01:20:56,016
on a cultural level
2093
01:20:56,018 --> 01:20:59,553
and real measurable change.
2094
01:20:59,555 --> 01:21:01,589
It has become my...
2095
01:21:01,591 --> 01:21:03,390
Sort of my religion that I want
2096
01:21:03,392 --> 01:21:05,125
to do something to this field.
2097
01:21:05,127 --> 01:21:08,295
Now, I don't...
I don't have the arrogance
2098
01:21:08,297 --> 01:21:09,864
to think I'm gonna
change everything
2099
01:21:09,866 --> 01:21:13,033
and cure this global
epidemic of obesity
2100
01:21:13,035 --> 01:21:14,935
that we have,
2101
01:21:14,937 --> 01:21:16,804
but I want to be able
to contribute
2102
01:21:16,806 --> 01:21:20,207
to whatever extent I can
2103
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:23,744
and that's my, passion.
2104
01:21:23,746 --> 01:21:26,413
Let's not make health
2105
01:21:26,415 --> 01:21:29,016
one more
kind of measuring stick,
2106
01:21:29,018 --> 01:21:31,819
one more moral ruler
2107
01:21:31,821 --> 01:21:34,021
to beat kids on the head with.
2108
01:21:34,023 --> 01:21:35,923
Let's give them room
2109
01:21:35,925 --> 01:21:38,993
to be healthy
and love themselves.
2110
01:21:38,995 --> 01:21:40,294
When you think
about the understandings
2111
01:21:40,296 --> 01:21:41,595
we've come up with
over the last,
2112
01:21:41,597 --> 01:21:44,231
you know, 20 years,
2113
01:21:44,233 --> 01:21:46,133
the... it's really changed
2114
01:21:46,135 --> 01:21:47,935
the way we look at the problem.
2115
01:21:47,937 --> 01:21:51,272
And I think we are starting
to finally unravel,
2116
01:21:51,274 --> 01:21:53,073
many of the pieces
2117
01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:55,943
that go into
2118
01:21:55,945 --> 01:21:57,811
the obesity epidemic.
2119
01:21:57,813 --> 01:21:59,880
We need to launch
2120
01:21:59,882 --> 01:22:02,716
the direction of research
and approach
2121
01:22:02,718 --> 01:22:05,986
that can effectively treat,
2122
01:22:05,988 --> 01:22:09,189
control, prevent this disease.
2123
01:22:09,191 --> 01:22:12,226
And those solutions
can be at society level,
2124
01:22:12,228 --> 01:22:14,495
at community level,
at individual level,
2125
01:22:14,497 --> 01:22:15,729
at genetic level.
2126
01:22:15,731 --> 01:22:18,232
So all those
together eventually,
2127
01:22:18,234 --> 01:22:20,768
we will be able to
2128
01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:22,369
conquer this disease.
2129
01:23:00,176 --> 01:23:02,042
Hi, sir. Would you like
to participate
2130
01:23:02,044 --> 01:23:04,445
in our free BMI test?
2131
01:23:04,447 --> 01:23:05,579
Okay. That's fine.
2132
01:23:05,581 --> 01:23:06,861
Do you think it's uncomfortable?
2133
01:23:12,788 --> 01:23:15,055
The lawmakers made us
get on the scales
2134
01:23:15,057 --> 01:23:16,957
to be weighed for BMI,
so we're up here to see
2135
01:23:16,959 --> 01:23:18,459
if anyone else
would like to do it.
2136
01:23:18,461 --> 01:23:20,694
We won't write you a letter.
2137
01:23:27,970 --> 01:23:29,770
We're doing free BMI test today.
2138
01:23:29,772 --> 01:23:31,939
Oh, good.
Totally understand.
2139
01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:37,544
You got to have a permit, okay?
2140
01:23:37,546 --> 01:23:38,779
Oh, we didn't know.
Yes.
2141
01:23:38,781 --> 01:23:40,814
We thought it was public.
Okay. Are we allowed
2142
01:23:40,816 --> 01:23:42,816
to just ask questions?
Or I mean out here.
2143
01:23:42,818 --> 01:23:44,258
But you'll be able
to film and stuff.
2144
01:23:49,325 --> 01:23:50,457
So you're doing free hugs?
2145
01:23:50,459 --> 01:23:51,525
Oh, yeah,
2146
01:23:51,527 --> 01:23:53,527
you got free BMI test?
Yeah.
2147
01:24:01,569 --> 01:24:03,237
Is that on?
Yeah.
2148
01:24:03,239 --> 01:24:05,839
It's always on.
2149
01:24:05,841 --> 01:24:06,874
Are we allowed to, like, do it
2150
01:24:06,876 --> 01:24:08,008
without, like, the sign,
2151
01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:09,877
you know, the sign is...
No. No.
2152
01:24:09,879 --> 01:24:11,478
Not even ask questions?
No, ma'am.
2153
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:13,247
There's a free speech area
right out there
2154
01:24:13,249 --> 01:24:15,115
in front of that fountain.
Okay.
2155
01:24:15,117 --> 01:24:16,517
Okay?
So we'll just head over there.
2156
01:24:26,928 --> 01:24:28,695
We just make sure we don't
disturb anyone with the truth.
2157
01:24:28,697 --> 01:24:30,664
Would you guys like a free BMI?
2158
01:24:30,666 --> 01:24:32,966
Free BMI.
No.
2159
01:24:32,968 --> 01:24:35,736
This is our only spot
we're allowed to stand.
2160
01:24:41,544 --> 01:24:42,876
At this common area,
2161
01:24:42,878 --> 01:24:45,379
we're not allowed
to have weapons,
2162
01:24:45,381 --> 01:24:49,249
concealed firearms,
or free speech.
2163
01:24:56,358 --> 01:24:58,058
So there's a person over there
2164
01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,827
and we want to ask him
if he would like
2165
01:24:59,829 --> 01:25:02,496
to step on the scales,
but we think
2166
01:25:02,498 --> 01:25:05,399
he's outside
of our free speech zone,
2167
01:25:05,401 --> 01:25:08,402
so we might get in trouble.
2168
01:25:08,404 --> 01:25:09,636
He's protected.
2169
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,423
Hey, Maddie, is free speech
our next issue?