1 00:00:29,112 --> 00:00:31,546 MAN: So, what we're gonna do is, we're gonna play back 2 00:00:31,712 --> 00:00:33,942 some of the band's new songs. 3 00:00:34,112 --> 00:00:35,830 There'll be no cameras allowed in there. 4 00:00:35,992 --> 00:00:38,347 There'll be no video, no bags in there. 5 00:00:38,552 --> 00:00:41,146 You can only walk in with paper and a pencil. 6 00:00:41,272 --> 00:00:44,628 MAN: We're ready. HARMON: Are there any questions? 7 00:00:48,192 --> 00:00:49,830 ["FRANTIC" PLAYING] 8 00:01:19,673 --> 00:01:21,072 You want a single? 9 00:01:21,953 --> 00:01:23,306 MAN: Camera over here. 10 00:01:23,473 --> 00:01:24,872 [BEEPING] 11 00:01:29,753 --> 00:01:31,744 REPORTER: Was there ever a moment you thought about stopping 12 00:01:31,953 --> 00:01:34,672 with Metallica or the whole band was falling apart? 13 00:01:34,833 --> 00:01:37,552 Was it a kind of a power struggle between you and him? 14 00:01:37,753 --> 00:01:39,550 REPORTER 2: How did you manage to solve this crisis? 15 00:01:39,713 --> 00:01:41,783 REPORTER 3: Where in God's name are you getting this aggression from 16 00:01:41,953 --> 00:01:43,545 on this new album? Where's it coming from? 17 00:01:43,713 --> 00:01:44,987 REPORTER 4: Why did it take so long to release 18 00:01:45,153 --> 00:01:46,472 an album with the new songs? 19 00:01:46,633 --> 00:01:49,386 After 20 years, is it possible to retain the fire 20 00:01:49,553 --> 00:01:52,147 that, you know, you guys once had at the beginning? 21 00:01:52,273 --> 00:01:56,267 Do you think the young generation of metal fans will accept the new album? 22 00:01:56,554 --> 00:01:59,193 REPORTER 5: Eighty-five million records, 22 years. 23 00:01:59,354 --> 00:02:01,948 I think it's 11 albums and various official releases. 24 00:02:02,154 --> 00:02:03,473 One word. 25 00:02:03,634 --> 00:02:05,625 [HETFIELD LAUGHS] 26 00:02:05,954 --> 00:02:07,626 Oh, my God. 27 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:11,025 One word to span our career? 28 00:02:13,074 --> 00:02:15,429 [MUSIC PLAYING] 29 00:02:33,394 --> 00:02:35,988 [SINGS] We are scanning the scene In the city tonight 30 00:02:36,154 --> 00:02:39,271 We're looking for you To start up a fight 31 00:02:39,434 --> 00:02:42,904 There is an evil feeling in our brains 32 00:02:43,074 --> 00:02:45,907 But it's nothing new You know it drives us insane 33 00:02:46,074 --> 00:02:49,147 Running, on our way Hiding, you will pay 34 00:02:49,315 --> 00:02:52,751 Dying, 1,000 deaths 35 00:02:52,955 --> 00:02:55,947 Running, on our way Hiding, you will pay 36 00:02:56,155 --> 00:02:58,385 Dying, 1,000 deaths 37 00:03:00,875 --> 00:03:02,991 Searching 38 00:03:03,155 --> 00:03:05,430 Seek and destroy 39 00:03:07,235 --> 00:03:09,271 Searching 40 00:03:09,435 --> 00:03:12,586 Seek and destroy 41 00:03:25,675 --> 00:03:27,791 HETFIELD: Thank you! 42 00:03:27,995 --> 00:03:30,065 [CHEERING] 43 00:03:55,876 --> 00:03:59,027 After 14 years of headbanging, Metallica bassist Jason Newsted 44 00:03:59,196 --> 00:04:01,107 has quit the band, citing: 45 00:04:01,276 --> 00:04:03,870 "Private and personal reasons and the physical damage that I've done 46 00:04:04,036 --> 00:04:07,028 to myself over the years while playing the music I love." 47 00:04:07,196 --> 00:04:09,471 Metallica's management had no comment when asked by MTV News 48 00:04:09,636 --> 00:04:11,354 if there's a replacement waiting in the wings. 49 00:04:11,516 --> 00:04:14,747 But the band is still scheduled to begin recording a new album this spring. 50 00:04:14,916 --> 00:04:17,874 That's the news for now. Stay tuned for more news. 51 00:04:18,036 --> 00:04:19,867 MAN: I mean, I think everybody understands 52 00:04:20,036 --> 00:04:21,185 the concept of trusting instincts. 53 00:04:21,436 --> 00:04:26,464 That's getting to a place where you don't let egos and let stuff 54 00:04:26,636 --> 00:04:30,549 get in the way of artistic expression. You know? 55 00:04:30,716 --> 00:04:34,914 Do you wanna say anything more about that? Everybody understands... 56 00:04:35,076 --> 00:04:37,112 TOWLE: I met Metallica through Q Prime Management, 57 00:04:37,276 --> 00:04:39,552 after having seen me work with another band of theirs, 58 00:04:39,717 --> 00:04:41,753 when they called and said that Metallica, 59 00:04:41,957 --> 00:04:46,712 with Jason announcing that he was exiting the group, 60 00:04:46,877 --> 00:04:48,435 needed to take a look at itself and say: 61 00:04:48,597 --> 00:04:52,146 "Well, what's going on here? We've lost touch with our personal relationships," 62 00:04:52,317 --> 00:04:58,870 and face some of the issues that I think Q Prime felt that they were headed for. 63 00:04:59,037 --> 00:05:02,029 You know, we haven't really worked together for almost nine months. 64 00:05:02,717 --> 00:05:06,027 When we were talking a couple of days ago about whether-- 65 00:05:06,197 --> 00:05:08,631 You know, if we wanted to do this film or not, 66 00:05:08,797 --> 00:05:14,394 I was wondering if having these guys in here would affect that. 67 00:05:14,557 --> 00:05:17,629 Because I'm just-- There's an intimacy that you get 68 00:05:17,797 --> 00:05:19,355 when it's just a few people in the room, 69 00:05:19,557 --> 00:05:21,832 and I'm just wondering if that's gonna get lost, 70 00:05:21,997 --> 00:05:24,465 if we're gonna go back to sort of, like, 71 00:05:24,637 --> 00:05:28,152 battling each other and trying to be, like, all strong and-- 72 00:05:28,317 --> 00:05:30,512 What intimacy? What the fuck are you talking about? 73 00:05:30,677 --> 00:05:31,905 [LAUGHING] 74 00:05:32,717 --> 00:05:35,755 TOWLE: I think, to me, it's not gonna be a matter of whether 75 00:05:35,918 --> 00:05:37,795 the cameras are in play, 76 00:05:37,958 --> 00:05:40,028 but whether or not you guys are free enough 77 00:05:40,198 --> 00:05:44,555 to risk being seen by other people. 78 00:06:09,158 --> 00:06:13,436 HARMON: We're here in the Presidio in San Francisco, 79 00:06:13,598 --> 00:06:16,112 and this is gonna be the location where Metallica 80 00:06:16,278 --> 00:06:18,712 is gonna start recording their next album. 81 00:06:19,478 --> 00:06:23,027 MAN: We decided that we didn't wanna go back into a studio again 82 00:06:23,238 --> 00:06:25,627 and do kind of, like, the same thing we had done before. 83 00:06:25,838 --> 00:06:28,557 We had to kind of change things up. 84 00:06:28,718 --> 00:06:30,949 And this is one of the things that we talked about, 85 00:06:31,119 --> 00:06:33,314 was to go into a space that's not a studio, 86 00:06:33,479 --> 00:06:37,836 bring in kind of, like, a portable studio or a makeshift studio, 87 00:06:37,999 --> 00:06:40,593 and basically make the situation uncomfortable. 88 00:06:40,719 --> 00:06:42,869 HARMON: You know, don't buy new furniture, don't paint the walls. 89 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:47,032 Don't do anything. Just keep it Spartan, keep it crude. 90 00:06:47,239 --> 00:06:49,389 They're such a success that you can get comfortable. 91 00:06:49,559 --> 00:06:51,117 I don't think they wanna be comfortable. 92 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,632 There's definitely a vibe in here. 93 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,875 They got a lot of attitude, and I think they want it 94 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:56,711 to come out on this next album. 95 00:06:59,159 --> 00:07:00,831 How did you approach this record differently? 96 00:07:00,999 --> 00:07:03,752 Did you talk about things, did you have ideas, keywords, things like that, 97 00:07:03,919 --> 00:07:06,194 that you wanted to put across before you started 98 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:07,633 putting the whole thing together? 99 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,229 Well, ego was a big one. Coming in here 100 00:07:11,439 --> 00:07:14,033 and not bringing a riff, not bringing a song, 101 00:07:14,159 --> 00:07:16,389 not bringing a title. Nothing. 102 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:20,234 Me and James did not meet somewhere else 103 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:24,756 and come in here with material, with songs, with music. 104 00:07:24,919 --> 00:07:28,515 This time we all got in a room and just started playing. 105 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,829 And that's how we wrote songs. 106 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,838 [PLAYING GUITAR] 107 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,231 The idea is it should sound like a band getting together 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,994 in a garage for the first time. 109 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,557 Only the band's Metallica. 110 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,832 HETFIELD: I really like going fast. 111 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,438 Just go off and meditate in the wind, you know. 112 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,114 As corny as it sounds, it works, and it feels good. 113 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,910 It's a good way to just let the weight of the world off every once in a while. 114 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,675 It is-- It is kind of strange being, you know, 115 00:08:22,841 --> 00:08:25,594 like, a famous guy. You know. 116 00:08:26,161 --> 00:08:27,230 [SIGHS] 117 00:08:28,281 --> 00:08:31,557 This is-- This is part of me that's trying to be unfamous, I guess. 118 00:08:31,921 --> 00:08:36,153 But it's also go-against-the-rules attitude. 119 00:08:36,321 --> 00:08:39,313 You know, is this a big pose? I mean, yes, this is a pose. 120 00:08:39,521 --> 00:08:42,513 I mean, am I driving down the street to not get noticed in this thing? 121 00:08:42,801 --> 00:08:46,111 I mean, "rebellious" is kind of what this says, I would say. 122 00:08:58,321 --> 00:08:59,834 - Have you got a plug-in here? - Wait. 123 00:09:00,041 --> 00:09:01,793 So, what exactly are you doing? 124 00:09:01,961 --> 00:09:03,997 ROCK: Well, you'll just hold it above the pickups. 125 00:09:04,161 --> 00:09:05,879 HAMMETT: Oh, okay. I got you. 126 00:09:06,041 --> 00:09:07,838 [GUITAR FEEDBACK] 127 00:09:08,001 --> 00:09:09,354 HETFIELD: Yeah! 128 00:09:23,362 --> 00:09:26,832 Give me fuel, give me fire Give me that which I desire 129 00:09:30,602 --> 00:09:32,672 I got some bad news. Gonna have to-- 130 00:09:32,842 --> 00:09:34,798 Change the lyrics? 131 00:09:35,882 --> 00:09:37,474 I like this thing, Bob. 132 00:09:37,642 --> 00:09:39,200 - What? - I like this thing. 133 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:51,156 ULRICH: I used to kid myself that art was my great escape away from music. 134 00:09:51,322 --> 00:09:53,472 And I think I've become increasingly aware 135 00:09:53,642 --> 00:09:57,635 that my interest in art, music and Metallica 136 00:09:57,802 --> 00:09:59,997 is not separate from anything. 137 00:10:00,162 --> 00:10:01,993 You know, where does he feel that there's enough 138 00:10:02,162 --> 00:10:03,993 of that kind of gold thing? 139 00:10:04,162 --> 00:10:07,632 How come there isn't another 20 strokes 140 00:10:07,802 --> 00:10:10,794 up in that black area up there, where it's kind of bare? 141 00:10:11,002 --> 00:10:12,800 Where are the starting points and the end points, 142 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:16,712 if you know what I mean? When's a song done? 143 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:18,794 What the fuck does that mean, anyway? Done. 144 00:10:19,003 --> 00:10:20,994 When's a record done? 145 00:10:21,163 --> 00:10:24,155 You know, where does a record start? Where does it end? 146 00:10:24,323 --> 00:10:26,553 Where does the process start? Where does the process end? 147 00:10:26,723 --> 00:10:28,520 All that type of stuff. Do you know what I mean? 148 00:10:28,683 --> 00:10:30,401 GIRL: Daddy! - It's really interesting. 149 00:10:30,563 --> 00:10:32,872 Yes, sweetie. 150 00:10:33,083 --> 00:10:34,914 [MUSIC PLAYING] 151 00:10:38,003 --> 00:10:40,039 I don't feel anything great there. 152 00:10:40,243 --> 00:10:43,076 HAMMETT: I don't think it's that great of a riff either. 153 00:10:43,363 --> 00:10:44,921 - How do you hear the riff then? ROCK: I like that: 154 00:10:45,083 --> 00:10:46,721 [IMITATING GUITAR] 155 00:10:46,883 --> 00:10:48,601 And then: 156 00:10:49,083 --> 00:10:50,516 HAMMETT: Yeah. 157 00:10:50,723 --> 00:10:52,441 [PLAYING MUSIC] 158 00:11:08,364 --> 00:11:13,392 In nine days, it'll be my two-year anniversary of surfing. 159 00:11:13,564 --> 00:11:16,920 It's taken the place of a lot of bad things in my life. 160 00:11:17,124 --> 00:11:20,719 So I basically stopped doing the drugs that I was doing 161 00:11:20,884 --> 00:11:24,160 and cut way back on my drinking. 162 00:11:24,724 --> 00:11:26,203 You can't surf when you're hung-over. 163 00:11:26,364 --> 00:11:30,437 You can't surf if you've been up all night. Well, at least I can't. 164 00:11:32,884 --> 00:11:36,763 There's a sort of individualism, also, about surfing that I like. 165 00:11:36,924 --> 00:11:42,760 I mean, when it's your moment, man, that's your moment and yours alone. 166 00:11:43,604 --> 00:11:46,277 And no one can help you. 167 00:11:49,964 --> 00:11:51,238 [TROLLEY BELL RINGING] 168 00:11:52,884 --> 00:11:57,912 ULRICH: For all intents and purposes, we go into this record completely equal. 169 00:11:58,084 --> 00:12:00,120 Everybody contributing 170 00:12:00,284 --> 00:12:02,879 just as much on the lyric front as James contributing 171 00:12:03,045 --> 00:12:04,797 with drum parts and... 172 00:12:04,965 --> 00:12:08,355 As soon as you started talking about that, I just like... 173 00:12:08,565 --> 00:12:10,556 HETFIELD: Yeah. Yeah. You flash back now. 174 00:12:10,725 --> 00:12:12,158 Well... 175 00:12:12,325 --> 00:12:14,441 You wanna hear it with vocals? 176 00:12:14,885 --> 00:12:16,204 Go sing it. 177 00:12:16,645 --> 00:12:19,159 You guys had some rules about that before. 178 00:12:19,725 --> 00:12:22,558 Quite frankly, I don't give a fuck. I'm tired of arguing. 179 00:12:22,725 --> 00:12:24,920 You couldn't talk about his lyrics, 180 00:12:25,085 --> 00:12:27,315 therefore, he couldn't talk about your drumming. 181 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:28,804 ULRICH: Right. ROCK: Do you know what I mean? 182 00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:31,559 And you and him did the solos, 183 00:12:31,725 --> 00:12:34,159 so you weren't allowed to comment on the solos. 184 00:12:34,805 --> 00:12:36,636 Do you know what I mean? There was, like, rules. 185 00:12:36,805 --> 00:12:40,354 Are you telling me that those boundaries are gone now? 186 00:12:40,525 --> 00:12:41,878 [LAUGHING] 187 00:12:45,805 --> 00:12:48,035 ULRICH: In the past, what we did was 188 00:12:48,205 --> 00:12:51,959 started with a bunch of ideas existing on tape from everybody. 189 00:12:52,165 --> 00:12:55,316 Then me and James would sit down and turn those ideas into songs. 190 00:12:55,485 --> 00:12:57,555 And then we would tell the rest of the band what to play 191 00:12:57,765 --> 00:12:59,438 and when to play and how to play it. 192 00:12:59,686 --> 00:13:02,439 There was never any, just, other ways of doing it. 193 00:13:03,486 --> 00:13:07,399 HETFIELD: You know, it's a whole new thing for me. 194 00:13:07,566 --> 00:13:10,000 You know, writing in front of everybody, 195 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:12,475 because I've always just gone into my own head 196 00:13:12,646 --> 00:13:16,161 and wrote stuff down, instead of taking things from outside 197 00:13:16,326 --> 00:13:17,998 and putting them down. 198 00:13:19,646 --> 00:13:23,241 ROCK: What I was thinking is, is like-- "These are the hands that--" 199 00:13:23,406 --> 00:13:26,603 "This is the face that--" So it's, like-- 200 00:13:26,766 --> 00:13:28,165 HETFIELD: Building a Frankenstein or something? 201 00:13:28,326 --> 00:13:31,045 - Yeah. Pretty much. ULRICH: Building what? 202 00:13:31,246 --> 00:13:34,318 HETFIELD: A Frankenstein. - "This is the top of my head that's flat." 203 00:13:34,486 --> 00:13:36,875 "These are my bolts..." 204 00:13:39,006 --> 00:13:41,042 HAMMETT: We're on the same stream of consciousness here. 205 00:13:41,246 --> 00:13:44,841 We're just all working on the same creative wavelength. 206 00:13:45,006 --> 00:13:46,405 And it's inspiring to me. 207 00:13:46,566 --> 00:13:49,034 Now I can further express myself with these lyrics 208 00:13:49,246 --> 00:13:54,082 now that, you know, James has opened that door for Lars and I. 209 00:13:54,247 --> 00:13:55,646 - This is "clay," right? HAMMETT: Yeah. 210 00:13:55,847 --> 00:13:57,246 - Not "clam." - Clay. 211 00:13:57,407 --> 00:13:59,204 "These hands finger the clam." 212 00:13:59,487 --> 00:14:01,762 [SINGS] These are the eyes That can't see through me 213 00:14:01,927 --> 00:14:04,236 This is the tongue That speaks on the inside 214 00:14:04,447 --> 00:14:06,722 ROCK: Make sure you really, like, spit "can't see me." 215 00:14:06,887 --> 00:14:08,957 ROCK: These are the eyes That can't see me! 216 00:14:09,127 --> 00:14:11,243 These are the eyes That can't see me 217 00:14:11,447 --> 00:14:13,642 These are the hands That drop your trust 218 00:14:13,807 --> 00:14:14,922 - "This is the--" - Yeah. 219 00:14:15,087 --> 00:14:16,440 This is the eye-- Yeah. 220 00:14:17,007 --> 00:14:19,077 This is the eye That can't see me 221 00:14:19,247 --> 00:14:21,556 This is the hand That drops your trust 222 00:14:21,727 --> 00:14:24,002 These are the boots That kick you around 223 00:14:24,207 --> 00:14:28,644 This is the voice of silence no more 224 00:14:29,087 --> 00:14:31,317 ROCK: What is this about? HETFIELD: Well, I mean, 225 00:14:31,487 --> 00:14:37,437 I said Frankenstein. It's not that far off, talking about pieces of things. 226 00:14:37,607 --> 00:14:39,757 So, I mean, some kind of monster. 227 00:14:39,927 --> 00:14:42,077 Some kind of monster? 228 00:14:42,247 --> 00:14:44,886 - You know? BOTH: Some kind of monster. 229 00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:47,044 ULRICH: It is-- It is good. HETFIELD: You know what I mean? 230 00:14:47,207 --> 00:14:48,960 HAMMETT: I like that. 231 00:14:51,288 --> 00:14:55,042 [SINGS] Some kind of monster 232 00:14:56,048 --> 00:14:59,961 Some kind of monster 233 00:15:00,488 --> 00:15:03,719 The monster lives 234 00:15:07,088 --> 00:15:09,966 TOWLE: "We come now to create our album of life. 235 00:15:10,328 --> 00:15:12,637 Throughout our individual and collective journeys, 236 00:15:12,808 --> 00:15:14,321 sometimes through pain and conflict, 237 00:15:14,488 --> 00:15:17,127 we've discovered the true meaning of family. 238 00:15:17,808 --> 00:15:19,639 As we accomplish ultimate togetherness, 239 00:15:19,808 --> 00:15:22,481 we become healers of ourselves 240 00:15:22,648 --> 00:15:26,641 and the countless who embrace us and our message. 241 00:15:27,248 --> 00:15:28,647 We have learned, and we understand. 242 00:15:28,808 --> 00:15:31,038 Now we must share." 243 00:15:31,808 --> 00:15:34,561 - So that's just-- - A mission statement. 244 00:15:34,728 --> 00:15:36,320 HETFIELD: A what statement? HAMMETT: Mission statement. 245 00:15:36,488 --> 00:15:37,716 HETFIELD: Mission? - Yeah, mission. 246 00:15:37,888 --> 00:15:40,356 - It's like-- You know, it sets a goal, HETFIELD: Right. 247 00:15:40,568 --> 00:15:44,642 so you just can, like, just always be reminded of, you know-- 248 00:15:44,809 --> 00:15:47,004 You know, what the ultimate goal is. 249 00:15:48,969 --> 00:15:50,402 HETFIELD: All right. 250 00:15:51,729 --> 00:15:53,321 [MUSIC PLAYING] 251 00:15:53,489 --> 00:15:58,324 [SINGS] It's my world, you can't have it It's my world, you can't have it 252 00:15:58,489 --> 00:16:01,083 It's my world, you can't have it 253 00:16:01,209 --> 00:16:07,318 It's my world, my world You can't have it 254 00:16:07,649 --> 00:16:09,560 Sucker! 255 00:16:13,569 --> 00:16:14,922 ROCK: Excellent. 256 00:16:15,089 --> 00:16:16,408 [BABY CRYING] 257 00:16:16,569 --> 00:16:17,797 HETFIELD: Come on, little man. Let's go. 258 00:16:17,969 --> 00:16:19,322 FRANCESCA: Skylar, do you want your purse? 259 00:16:19,489 --> 00:16:21,764 CHILD 1: Daddy. CHILD 2: I'll come. I'll come. 260 00:16:21,929 --> 00:16:25,080 Come, Daddy. Come, Daddy. 261 00:16:28,249 --> 00:16:30,080 ULRICH: I don't know how you guys feel, 262 00:16:30,249 --> 00:16:32,160 but it's really awesome what we're doing. 263 00:16:32,369 --> 00:16:34,405 The four of us can just go in a fucking room 264 00:16:34,569 --> 00:16:36,560 and roll that kind of shit out of our sleeves. 265 00:16:36,769 --> 00:16:37,963 Pull it out of thin air, man. 266 00:16:38,129 --> 00:16:41,247 It's so exciting, because that has just never happened before. 267 00:16:41,410 --> 00:16:45,767 I couldn't get to sleep last night, because I was still wired from it all. 268 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:53,561 How do you feel? You don't seem really psyched about it. 269 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:05,761 ROCK: What the hell. 270 00:17:05,930 --> 00:17:07,329 [CHATTER] 271 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:11,206 - How's it going? Good to see you. - Yeah, thank you. 272 00:17:11,370 --> 00:17:13,565 ULRICH: How many bears did you kill? HETFIELD: Two. 273 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:15,647 Russia's fucked up. You know, it was like, 274 00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:18,119 you put a bottle of water here on the table. 275 00:17:18,290 --> 00:17:20,520 That was it, a bottle of vodka sitting there. 276 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:22,529 ULRICH: Did you drink vodka? HETFIELD: Hell, yeah. 277 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:25,124 ULRICH: You did? - What else is there to drink? 278 00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:28,248 As soon as you got there, it was like, "Na zdoroviya!" 279 00:17:28,450 --> 00:17:30,406 Na zdoroviya! 280 00:17:30,570 --> 00:17:32,208 HAMMETT: That's a pretty big bear. 281 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:35,363 - Is bear edible? - They were no good to eat. 282 00:17:35,531 --> 00:17:37,487 That freaked me out when they didn't take any meat. 283 00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:39,682 You know, they have been hibernating for three months, 284 00:17:39,891 --> 00:17:41,449 so they haven't pissed or shit or nothing. 285 00:17:41,611 --> 00:17:43,602 HAMMETT: Oh, so they're toxic? HETFIELD: Yeah. 286 00:17:43,771 --> 00:17:45,124 Third day, I killed my bear, 287 00:17:45,291 --> 00:17:47,282 and I was just in camp for the rest of the time. 288 00:17:47,491 --> 00:17:48,810 I was like, "Oh, my God." 289 00:17:48,971 --> 00:17:51,565 ULRICH: Worked on lyrics? - Yeah. I actually did. 290 00:17:51,691 --> 00:17:54,125 That was a lot of time, man. 291 00:17:54,291 --> 00:17:55,519 A lot of time. 292 00:17:55,691 --> 00:17:56,965 ROCK: I worked on lyrics in Siberia. 293 00:17:57,131 --> 00:18:00,123 HETFIELD: How to drink vodka and work on lyrics. 294 00:18:00,291 --> 00:18:04,409 [SINGS] Temptation Wreck my head 295 00:18:04,571 --> 00:18:08,644 Temptation Make you dead 296 00:18:08,811 --> 00:18:12,963 Temptation Sucks my soul 297 00:18:13,131 --> 00:18:17,966 Temptation Fill no hole 298 00:18:23,771 --> 00:18:26,922 Temptation 299 00:18:29,931 --> 00:18:34,767 Fuck you up Temptation 300 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:43,127 No, no, no, no I can't say no 301 00:18:43,292 --> 00:18:46,762 Can't say no No 302 00:18:46,932 --> 00:18:50,163 No No, no, no 303 00:18:50,332 --> 00:18:53,051 Can't say no 304 00:18:53,212 --> 00:18:57,205 Oh, no I can't say no 305 00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:03,284 Go away 306 00:19:03,452 --> 00:19:06,364 Leave me be 307 00:19:09,372 --> 00:19:12,887 Just leave me be 308 00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:16,886 MAN: So, what were the reactions you got from those close? 309 00:19:17,052 --> 00:19:19,771 I mean, how did the family react? 310 00:19:20,372 --> 00:19:22,727 HETFIELD: I'm just-- I don't know. Sometimes I'm a real ass about it 311 00:19:22,892 --> 00:19:25,122 and just come in and say, "Oh, by the way, 312 00:19:25,292 --> 00:19:27,204 I'm going to Russia for two weeks right here." 313 00:19:27,373 --> 00:19:29,603 You know, and, "What?" You know. 314 00:19:29,773 --> 00:19:31,923 Yeah, I'm getting better at that, you know, 315 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:37,127 because that was the most I missed my family ever. 316 00:19:37,293 --> 00:19:38,726 - You know? - Right. 317 00:19:38,893 --> 00:19:41,487 And it was, you know, Castor's first birthday I missed. 318 00:19:41,613 --> 00:19:43,126 - Right. - And it was-- 319 00:19:43,293 --> 00:19:47,445 Of course, we had a little vodka to Castor. 320 00:19:47,613 --> 00:19:49,444 Did a little shot for him and everything. 321 00:19:49,613 --> 00:19:54,209 But I would've loved to have been able to get ahold of home. 322 00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,332 [PLAYING GUITAR] 323 00:20:04,293 --> 00:20:06,124 Who's here? 324 00:20:06,293 --> 00:20:08,170 MYLES: This is Daddy working. 325 00:20:09,053 --> 00:20:11,362 - This is where Dad works? - Yeah. 326 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:13,524 - What does your dad do for work? - Drums. 327 00:20:13,733 --> 00:20:16,406 HETFIELD: He plays drums? - Yeah. 328 00:20:16,573 --> 00:20:18,768 - Let me play drums. HETFIELD: Is he good at it? 329 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:24,924 - Daddy, wanna play drums? - I played drums a lot today already. 330 00:20:25,134 --> 00:20:26,886 I'm okay. You play for a while. 331 00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:28,852 [SINGS] 332 00:20:33,414 --> 00:20:34,403 [LAUGHING] 333 00:20:35,294 --> 00:20:37,524 NEWSTED: Those guys, - That's very good. 334 00:20:37,734 --> 00:20:40,373 you know, their plate is filled with many, many things. 335 00:20:40,534 --> 00:20:42,570 And music is just one of the things. 336 00:20:42,734 --> 00:20:44,372 - Say, "Bye, James." - Bye, James. 337 00:20:44,534 --> 00:20:45,762 Bye, buddy. 338 00:20:45,934 --> 00:20:49,370 NEWSTED: I chose not to have children and do those kind of things. 339 00:20:49,534 --> 00:20:52,606 My music, that's my children. You know? 340 00:20:52,774 --> 00:20:54,730 ULRICH: Daddy's gonna stay and work for a little while. 341 00:20:54,894 --> 00:20:58,443 But since I decided to do it with music, 342 00:20:58,614 --> 00:21:00,730 then that's what I have to fill my time with. 343 00:21:06,134 --> 00:21:10,047 Echobrain is one of the projects that I've been working on for years. 344 00:21:10,414 --> 00:21:12,484 And now it's come to fruition. 345 00:21:12,854 --> 00:21:17,326 And then when it comes to the time where my main cat, James, 346 00:21:17,495 --> 00:21:22,091 tells me that basically he couldn't be in a band with me 347 00:21:22,255 --> 00:21:26,567 if I did the-- Took this other project to this level. 348 00:21:26,735 --> 00:21:30,489 And after 15 years of working together and going on buses 349 00:21:30,695 --> 00:21:32,970 and, you know, the stories, man... 350 00:21:33,135 --> 00:21:34,966 There was no way that this thing that I was doing 351 00:21:35,135 --> 00:21:39,492 could affect the monster of Metallica. I just don't see how it could. 352 00:21:39,695 --> 00:21:41,253 And so-- And saying things like that, 353 00:21:41,415 --> 00:21:44,134 I couldn't accept that kind of 354 00:21:46,015 --> 00:21:49,690 limited acceptance. 355 00:21:49,855 --> 00:21:52,847 I also know that this relationship is not over. 356 00:21:53,015 --> 00:21:55,483 You know, he'll-- It'll come around again at some point. 357 00:21:55,695 --> 00:21:57,014 You guys will make contact. 358 00:21:57,175 --> 00:21:58,767 NEWSTED: At that time the managers suggested 359 00:21:58,935 --> 00:22:01,290 that we have a psychotherapist come in, 360 00:22:01,455 --> 00:22:03,491 a man that meets with pro-ball teams, 361 00:22:03,695 --> 00:22:07,608 you know, big-ego, big-dollar guys that can't get along 362 00:22:07,775 --> 00:22:10,926 but have to make some kind of entity flow 363 00:22:11,135 --> 00:22:14,685 so everybody else and everybody can make their money. 364 00:22:14,856 --> 00:22:18,007 And I actually said: 365 00:22:18,176 --> 00:22:23,489 "I think that this is really fucking lame 366 00:22:23,696 --> 00:22:28,292 and weak that we cannot get together. Us. 367 00:22:28,456 --> 00:22:33,325 Look, the biggest heavy band of all time. 368 00:22:33,496 --> 00:22:36,169 And the things we've been through, and decisions we've made 369 00:22:36,336 --> 00:22:40,295 about squillions of dollars and squillions of people. 370 00:22:40,456 --> 00:22:44,688 And this, we can't get over this?" 371 00:22:48,136 --> 00:22:50,127 REPORTER: Was it more than just the Echobrain thing? 372 00:22:50,296 --> 00:22:54,289 Because that's, like, you know, what has been discussed. 373 00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:58,768 HETFIELD: He felt like he wasn't free enough to do what he needed to do. 374 00:22:58,936 --> 00:23:04,568 Since he wasn't getting his creativity out enough in Metallica, 375 00:23:04,736 --> 00:23:06,294 he needed to get it out somewhere else. 376 00:23:06,456 --> 00:23:09,130 And I totally understand that now. 377 00:23:09,297 --> 00:23:11,049 And... 378 00:23:12,777 --> 00:23:15,928 On my side of that was, 379 00:23:16,137 --> 00:23:19,766 I didn't want him to enjoy that more than Metallica. 380 00:23:19,937 --> 00:23:23,373 I didn't want anyone to leave Metallica. 381 00:23:23,537 --> 00:23:27,928 I didn't want to feel that we weren't enough 382 00:23:28,137 --> 00:23:30,287 or something like that. 383 00:23:30,457 --> 00:23:31,776 [SIGHS] 384 00:23:31,937 --> 00:23:35,532 And it was-- Through my-- 385 00:23:35,737 --> 00:23:38,205 I guess the way I learned how to love things 386 00:23:38,377 --> 00:23:40,607 was just to choke them to death. 387 00:23:40,777 --> 00:23:43,769 You know? "Don't go anywhere. Don't leave." 388 00:23:43,937 --> 00:23:46,451 You know? "You have to stay here." 389 00:23:57,137 --> 00:23:59,207 [BAND PLAYING] 390 00:24:11,898 --> 00:24:13,695 WOMAN: Okay. 391 00:24:14,978 --> 00:24:17,094 Need a pen, none of this pencil shit. 392 00:24:17,298 --> 00:24:19,368 Check it out, man, he can't even fucking spell it right. 393 00:24:19,538 --> 00:24:23,497 "Metllica." We've only been together 20 years. 394 00:24:46,378 --> 00:24:49,609 I feel guilty that I'm not inspired all the time. 395 00:24:49,818 --> 00:24:52,332 You know, especially when everyone else is. 396 00:24:52,538 --> 00:24:55,450 It's like, "Okay." We kind of get to the point 397 00:24:55,618 --> 00:24:58,610 where the song is looped twice in the Pro Tools, 398 00:24:58,778 --> 00:25:02,454 and I know Bob's gonna hit me up for some kind of lyric ideas. 399 00:25:02,619 --> 00:25:06,294 "Oh, shit." I was, like, dreading the whole process. 400 00:25:06,459 --> 00:25:10,168 It's like, "Why are you dreading it? Why don't you just--?" 401 00:25:10,339 --> 00:25:12,011 TOWLE: Well, you're dreading it because of what? 402 00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:15,012 - Let's get to the fear. - Well, because I didn't have anything. 403 00:25:15,179 --> 00:25:16,578 TOWLE: And so if you didn't have anything-- 404 00:25:16,739 --> 00:25:18,809 Wasn't inspired enough to have something 405 00:25:18,979 --> 00:25:21,698 or letting down the team or some vibe like that. 406 00:25:21,859 --> 00:25:25,329 One, two, three, five. 407 00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:37,769 [SINGS] Say it, I'm lonely, yeah 408 00:25:38,939 --> 00:25:42,932 Motherfucking in my head 409 00:25:43,139 --> 00:25:45,937 It's like I'm almost, like, racing against time. 410 00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:48,289 There's, like, weird-ass fear of like: 411 00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:50,336 "I gotta come up with something myself really quick 412 00:25:50,539 --> 00:25:52,769 before somebody else comes up with something for me." 413 00:25:52,939 --> 00:25:55,932 And then if I don't like it or don't 100 percent embrace it, 414 00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:59,689 then I'm just being a selfish, you know, insular asshole. 415 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:03,210 It's a fear response. When we're up against a fear, 416 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:06,452 that's the time to move into it, forward. 417 00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:08,656 Because there's going to be some kind of genius there 418 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:11,050 or some kind of breakthrough. 419 00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:14,769 [SINGS] Motherfucker, yeah 420 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:38,212 Metallica. Metallica. 421 00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:48,132 HETFIELD: Kirk. 422 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,619 Kirk. 423 00:26:51,301 --> 00:26:52,893 Kirk. Kirk! 424 00:26:55,341 --> 00:26:57,650 - Kirk. ULRICH: Kirk! 425 00:26:57,821 --> 00:26:59,334 - Kirk. ULRICH: Kirk! 426 00:26:59,501 --> 00:27:00,695 HAMMETT: Yes. HETFIELD: Kirk. 427 00:27:00,901 --> 00:27:03,540 ULRICH: James is trying to talk to you. - Sorry, man. 428 00:27:03,701 --> 00:27:05,657 Yeah, it's a bit stock. 429 00:27:05,821 --> 00:27:07,891 Check it out, guys. 430 00:27:17,821 --> 00:27:20,210 HETFIELD: I don't know how you feel. I'm in a shit mood. 431 00:27:20,381 --> 00:27:24,169 And I'm not digging it right now. 432 00:27:24,541 --> 00:27:27,260 Even last night, I gotta tell you, everybody kind of looked-- 433 00:27:27,421 --> 00:27:30,174 I hate to tell you, looked pretty burnt. 434 00:27:30,341 --> 00:27:32,172 I agree. 435 00:27:32,341 --> 00:27:35,492 HETFIELD: And if we don't start earlier and end earlier, I'm just-- 436 00:27:35,661 --> 00:27:39,734 I'm not gonna be in a good mood for the rest of this shit, you know? 437 00:27:54,942 --> 00:27:57,172 HAMMETT: That was totally weird for me. 438 00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:58,570 You hear that, Bob? 439 00:27:58,742 --> 00:28:01,620 Why don't you try getting a more solid beat. 440 00:28:01,782 --> 00:28:04,535 ULRICH: Regular. - Oh, well, you can call it regular. 441 00:28:04,702 --> 00:28:07,614 ULRICH: You called it regular. - No, I'm trying not to call it regular, 442 00:28:07,782 --> 00:28:10,137 because I know it bugs you when I call it regular. 443 00:28:10,302 --> 00:28:12,611 So a little more solid, then. 444 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:27,134 Fuck! 445 00:28:27,302 --> 00:28:29,213 HAMMETT: Maybe we should talk about next week. 446 00:28:29,622 --> 00:28:31,214 HETFIELD: Well, all next week is therapy. 447 00:28:31,382 --> 00:28:33,418 ULRICH: Yeah. 448 00:28:33,582 --> 00:28:37,177 HETFIELD: Do we have to do that? Can we sack Phil? 449 00:28:38,302 --> 00:28:43,775 I mean, we gotta find-- We gotta find a balance to not-- 450 00:28:43,943 --> 00:28:45,615 You know, the Phil stuff's important, 451 00:28:45,783 --> 00:28:50,937 and I hope we all feel that that's an investment in the music. 452 00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:53,941 It's an important part of the record. 453 00:28:59,783 --> 00:29:03,332 [SINGS] Get all holy again 454 00:29:10,903 --> 00:29:13,497 Let me just go put one together. 455 00:29:19,983 --> 00:29:23,532 [OVER SPEAKERS] Get all holy again 456 00:29:26,623 --> 00:29:28,420 It's just real confusing sounding. 457 00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:30,460 HETFIELD: It's just jacking the vocals all up. 458 00:29:30,623 --> 00:29:32,454 I mean-- I mean, it's clever and everything. 459 00:29:32,623 --> 00:29:36,059 But, I mean, I don't see what it does to the-- 460 00:29:36,223 --> 00:29:39,216 I think that's how you hear it, dude. That's fine. 461 00:29:39,384 --> 00:29:41,693 I'm just trying to do something different. 462 00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:47,222 I mean, I'm-- I'm used to having the drummer do the beat part. 463 00:29:47,384 --> 00:29:50,774 You know what I mean? Holding it together. 464 00:29:52,064 --> 00:29:55,613 What I'm hearing is... 465 00:29:56,904 --> 00:29:59,623 Choose my words carefully here. 466 00:30:00,984 --> 00:30:02,337 Um... 467 00:30:02,904 --> 00:30:06,533 It's pretty straightforward. And the guitar shit, it's-- 468 00:30:06,744 --> 00:30:08,462 You know, it's a little stock. 469 00:30:08,624 --> 00:30:12,697 So I started trying to introduce some kind of edge to it on the drums. 470 00:30:13,224 --> 00:30:16,899 HETFIELD: Those things we throw out to each other are complete bullshit. 471 00:30:17,064 --> 00:30:20,056 You know? "It sounds too stock. It sounds too normal to me." 472 00:30:20,224 --> 00:30:22,454 I mean-- 473 00:30:24,144 --> 00:30:26,453 You know what I mean? You're saying this shit 474 00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:29,900 so you can get your point across about doing a drum beat. 475 00:30:30,064 --> 00:30:33,535 I mean... You know, it doesn't hold any water. 476 00:30:33,745 --> 00:30:35,542 ULRICH: To you. HETFIELD: It doesn't. 477 00:30:35,745 --> 00:30:39,533 I think it's fucking stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? 478 00:30:39,865 --> 00:30:42,379 I think it sounds stock to my ears. 479 00:30:42,545 --> 00:30:44,456 I mean, do you want me to write it down? I think-- 480 00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:46,217 HETFIELD: Oh, yeah, please write it down. 481 00:30:46,385 --> 00:30:47,704 It feels stock, okay? 482 00:30:47,865 --> 00:30:49,093 HETFIELD: I can't hear you. - So l-- 483 00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:51,779 No, when you say-- You're telling me what to play, right now. 484 00:30:51,945 --> 00:30:54,300 You're telling me, "You should play with what Kirk's doing." 485 00:30:54,505 --> 00:30:58,134 - And I'm telling you it's stock. - Dude, fine. 486 00:30:58,305 --> 00:31:00,899 You know what, you guys, why don't we just go in and hammer it out, 487 00:31:01,065 --> 00:31:04,102 all right, instead of hammering on each other. 488 00:31:04,305 --> 00:31:06,978 We're in shit moods, and we're not gonna get anything done here today. 489 00:31:07,145 --> 00:31:08,703 ULRICH: All you wanna do is pick a fight. 490 00:31:08,865 --> 00:31:10,583 I don't wanna pick a fight. 491 00:31:10,905 --> 00:31:13,055 This is so silly. You're just sitting there going: 492 00:31:13,225 --> 00:31:15,022 "I'm in a really pissy mood and--" 493 00:31:15,185 --> 00:31:17,699 HETFIELD: And I fucking told you straight up that I was! 494 00:31:17,905 --> 00:31:19,543 - Right. - And what are you trying to do? 495 00:31:19,705 --> 00:31:22,060 I'm not trying to do fucking shit. 496 00:31:22,225 --> 00:31:25,900 You're just sitting here being a complete dick. 497 00:31:26,065 --> 00:31:29,979 You're-- You're really helping matters. You're really good at that. 498 00:31:30,146 --> 00:31:33,138 I was straight up with you, and I told you, I'm in a shit mood. 499 00:31:33,306 --> 00:31:37,094 And what have you been doing? Fucking picking at me all night. 500 00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:40,499 Come on, guys. We've got better things to do. 501 00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:43,703 HETFIELD: Yeah, I do. I do. 502 00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:06,420 Metallica front man, James Hetfield, has entered a rehabilitation facility 503 00:32:06,586 --> 00:32:10,420 to undergo treatment for alcoholism and other undisclosed addictions. 504 00:32:10,586 --> 00:32:13,419 In a statement posted on Metallica's official website, 505 00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:16,976 the band writes, "James has entered an undisclosed facility, 506 00:32:17,146 --> 00:32:20,218 and he will continue to receive treatment until further notice. 507 00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:22,861 Until then we have postponed all current activities, 508 00:32:23,027 --> 00:32:25,222 including recording sessions for our new album." 509 00:32:25,387 --> 00:32:29,426 Metallica, whose hard-partying ways earned them the nickname Alcoholica, 510 00:32:29,627 --> 00:32:34,417 have been working on their follow-up to the 1998 double disc... 511 00:33:09,467 --> 00:33:11,378 TORBEN: I think it's easy to see that, in those days, 512 00:33:11,547 --> 00:33:17,383 Metallica brought a kind of physicality to rock 'n' roll. 513 00:33:18,147 --> 00:33:20,582 Let's say the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, 514 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,218 you know, and all that inspired some of the British rock music 515 00:33:24,388 --> 00:33:25,980 that then developed after that. 516 00:33:26,388 --> 00:33:29,027 And let's say the metal music 517 00:33:29,228 --> 00:33:31,867 and Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and all of that. 518 00:33:32,028 --> 00:33:34,826 And then, out of that again, then, let's say, 519 00:33:34,988 --> 00:33:38,060 then came Lars and all of that and being-- 520 00:33:38,228 --> 00:33:42,380 So I think that they have certainly a place in all of that, I think. 521 00:33:42,548 --> 00:33:45,301 Lars had a very good vision at the time 522 00:33:45,468 --> 00:33:49,143 of where he saw that particular-- 523 00:33:49,308 --> 00:33:51,902 You know, the metal music going, because he could see it 524 00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:54,707 with European ears and eyes maybe. 525 00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:58,224 Don't you feel that it's great for you 526 00:33:58,428 --> 00:34:03,741 to have your father's perspective on who you are and what you're doing? 527 00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:05,136 I think that's incredible. 528 00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:08,584 You talk about the lineage... Which we did, 529 00:34:08,748 --> 00:34:10,466 we talked a little bit about your grandfather. 530 00:34:10,628 --> 00:34:13,586 It's very difficult to admit it, especially with him standing next to me. 531 00:34:13,748 --> 00:34:16,980 It's easier to talk about it when he's not in my presence. 532 00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:21,427 But... Of course it is. 533 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:24,467 What would you--? What would you say in private? 534 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:26,585 - To who? - To anybody, without him here. 535 00:34:26,749 --> 00:34:28,307 Say it. You know, what would it be? 536 00:34:28,469 --> 00:34:31,302 Well, I mean, I've already said it to you countless times. 537 00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:34,461 Well, have you said it to him? 538 00:34:35,509 --> 00:34:36,988 [LAUGHS] 539 00:34:37,469 --> 00:34:39,187 TOWLE: You brought it up. I didn't bring it up. 540 00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:43,547 What is it you feel you've said that you're not saying now? 541 00:34:43,709 --> 00:34:45,506 ULRICH: I think maybe in some ways some of the-- 542 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:47,022 To me that's-- 543 00:34:47,189 --> 00:34:51,705 Fear of status quo comes a little bit from this direction over here. 544 00:34:52,749 --> 00:34:55,343 I think that-- I mean, there's nothing worse 545 00:34:55,549 --> 00:34:57,540 than when I have to go to him and play the new record 546 00:34:57,709 --> 00:34:59,779 and know there's something on there that sucks. 547 00:34:59,949 --> 00:35:03,828 And he can see right through that in two and a half seconds flat. 548 00:35:04,989 --> 00:35:06,342 [MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS] 549 00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:43,745 TOWLE: Comments on that one? 550 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:48,626 TORBEN: I would say, you know, if you said: 551 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:52,783 "If you were our adviser, what would you say?" 552 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:56,147 Then I would say, "Delete that." 553 00:35:58,550 --> 00:36:01,462 I mean-- I mean, I don't know for you guys. 554 00:36:01,630 --> 00:36:05,180 For me, it doesn't cut it. You know? 555 00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:08,108 - But-- - Interesting. I mean, it's interesting. 556 00:36:08,271 --> 00:36:10,944 You know, now-- I mean, other than the people involved here, 557 00:36:11,151 --> 00:36:15,064 the only other people who've heard any of this music is Cliff Burnstein. 558 00:36:15,231 --> 00:36:17,950 When Cliff Burnstein heard that, he thought that should open the record. 559 00:36:18,151 --> 00:36:21,143 TORBEN: Yeah. I mean, that could well be. 560 00:36:21,311 --> 00:36:24,940 But I'm pretty sure that-- 561 00:36:25,151 --> 00:36:29,827 That I really-- That I really-- I really don't think so. 562 00:36:30,151 --> 00:36:34,303 You know? I really don't think so. 563 00:36:35,071 --> 00:36:36,868 - Right. TORBEN: For me, that-- 564 00:36:37,151 --> 00:36:39,870 That doesn't sound right or something. You know? 565 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:44,263 Unless I'm a guy that's kind of shouting 566 00:36:44,431 --> 00:36:46,820 in some kind of echo chamber. 567 00:36:47,031 --> 00:36:49,420 [LAUGHING] 568 00:37:05,752 --> 00:37:07,424 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 569 00:37:18,032 --> 00:37:19,943 TOWLE: So I think one of our responsibilities here 570 00:37:20,112 --> 00:37:23,070 is to act like a band that's still continuing. 571 00:37:23,232 --> 00:37:25,109 We're going on. We're doing our exploring. 572 00:37:25,272 --> 00:37:28,469 We're exploring ourselves individually, we're exploring our relationships. 573 00:37:28,632 --> 00:37:32,341 And we really need to get together, talk about this, 574 00:37:32,512 --> 00:37:36,346 act like the band exists, because it does exist. 575 00:37:36,592 --> 00:37:42,747 And if we don't do that, then we are the coproducers 576 00:37:42,952 --> 00:37:45,671 of the process slipping off the planet. 577 00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:49,546 This is a bit of a shit sandwich, though. 578 00:37:50,752 --> 00:37:54,142 What does it--? The unravelling of a band? 579 00:37:54,312 --> 00:37:56,463 And then there were two? 580 00:37:57,273 --> 00:38:01,346 So a good friend of mine phoned me. 581 00:38:01,553 --> 00:38:03,191 And he knew where James was. 582 00:38:03,353 --> 00:38:05,025 ULRICH: Really? ROCK: Yeah. 583 00:38:05,193 --> 00:38:09,311 He couldn't even imagine James doing anything for six months. 584 00:38:12,633 --> 00:38:15,147 I'm prepared for the worst. 585 00:38:15,873 --> 00:38:18,307 I'm pretty confident that, you know, 586 00:38:18,473 --> 00:38:21,465 we will come together when the time is right. 587 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:25,945 But knowing when that time will come, 588 00:38:26,153 --> 00:38:28,144 or not knowing when that time will come, 589 00:38:28,313 --> 00:38:31,032 is very, very uncomfortable. 590 00:38:31,473 --> 00:38:37,343 I hope that at some point he will come back 591 00:38:37,553 --> 00:38:40,272 and try and finish the making of this record. 592 00:38:42,193 --> 00:38:44,024 lf... 593 00:38:51,354 --> 00:38:53,629 If he walked away from Metallica, I'm not sure 594 00:38:53,794 --> 00:38:56,149 that it would surprise me. 595 00:39:06,634 --> 00:39:08,306 [SINGS] Say your prayers, little one 596 00:39:08,474 --> 00:39:13,992 Don't forget, my son To include everyone 597 00:39:14,954 --> 00:39:19,789 ULRICH: I've always felt that James was a softer, more caring, 598 00:39:20,034 --> 00:39:26,712 compassionate person than he allowed himself to be to most people. 599 00:39:31,314 --> 00:39:34,147 I can remember from the Dave Mustaine days, 600 00:39:34,314 --> 00:39:38,307 I mean, when him and Dave Mustaine, these guys, they started right away 601 00:39:38,474 --> 00:39:42,023 with their big, you know, chests beating and their mannerisms, 602 00:39:42,234 --> 00:39:45,192 and the whole thing was very much about this kind of, like, macho-- 603 00:39:45,354 --> 00:39:47,311 It was just, like-- I couldn't deal with that stuff. 604 00:39:47,475 --> 00:39:50,148 And looking back on, I mean, what was that, 18, 19 years ago, 605 00:39:50,315 --> 00:39:53,990 I mean, I just felt so alienated, because it was just so far removed 606 00:39:54,155 --> 00:39:56,953 from the upbringing that I come from. 607 00:39:57,475 --> 00:39:59,386 Well, here's to you, my friends. 608 00:39:59,555 --> 00:40:03,150 ULRICH: But then, at the same time, I'm starting to realizing now 609 00:40:03,315 --> 00:40:05,829 that the sort of depressive things that show up 610 00:40:05,995 --> 00:40:07,986 as a result of the alcohol and stuff like that, 611 00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:12,307 it was just very difficult for him to communicate from the heart. 612 00:40:12,475 --> 00:40:14,386 - You want some or not? ULRICH: And not hide behind 613 00:40:14,555 --> 00:40:15,954 a lot of these different fronts. 614 00:40:16,115 --> 00:40:19,630 Whether it's alcohol, that gives him a false sense of strength 615 00:40:19,835 --> 00:40:22,554 or the front man in Metallica 616 00:40:22,715 --> 00:40:26,025 or, you know, macho bullshit and all that stuff. 617 00:40:26,235 --> 00:40:28,988 All right, now you guys are drunk, and I'm drunk. 618 00:40:29,155 --> 00:40:31,271 Now this is the fun part, man. 619 00:40:31,515 --> 00:40:33,790 I want to help him. I want to be there for him. 620 00:40:33,955 --> 00:40:36,071 And I want to do the best I can 621 00:40:36,235 --> 00:40:39,227 to make him the best person that he can be. 622 00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,989 So I don't know how the fuck it's gonna play out. 623 00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:10,067 HAMMETT: It's really healthy for me to be here without any pressure 624 00:41:10,236 --> 00:41:12,545 or anything related to the band 625 00:41:12,716 --> 00:41:16,868 or anyone who would remind me of the band. 626 00:41:17,676 --> 00:41:21,908 And to recognize what's real. 627 00:41:22,996 --> 00:41:27,387 Our sessions with Phil really stirred up a lot of things in James 628 00:41:27,556 --> 00:41:31,708 that he thought that he needed to address. 629 00:41:31,916 --> 00:41:33,907 Mentally, it's really taken-- 630 00:41:34,076 --> 00:41:38,389 Taken its toll on myself, you know, and I'm very worried about him. 631 00:41:38,557 --> 00:41:43,711 And, you know, whenever you check yourself into rehab, 632 00:41:43,917 --> 00:41:47,830 they don't-- They don't focus on, you know, the fact that you're an alcoholic. 633 00:41:47,997 --> 00:41:51,069 They go much deeper, you know? I mean, they go way deep. 634 00:41:51,237 --> 00:41:53,273 They crack you open and then spill you out 635 00:41:53,437 --> 00:41:57,066 and examine all the things that are on the table. 636 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,747 I've spoken to him a few times, 637 00:41:59,917 --> 00:42:04,149 and, you know, I know he's having a rough trip. 638 00:42:06,517 --> 00:42:12,433 No matter how bad it gets, eventually things seem to sort themselves out, 639 00:42:12,597 --> 00:42:14,747 sooner or later. 640 00:42:16,157 --> 00:42:19,911 Whether it's good or bad, they sort themselves out. 641 00:42:22,157 --> 00:42:23,954 MUSTAINE: I watched the people around the world say 642 00:42:24,117 --> 00:42:26,472 what a great guitar player Kirk is 643 00:42:27,277 --> 00:42:31,987 and what a piece of shit I am. And that I got kicked out of Metallica. 644 00:42:32,157 --> 00:42:36,356 And I wasn't good enough for them. And that I was a loser. 645 00:42:36,558 --> 00:42:40,915 And I've had to deal with that for almost 20 years. 646 00:42:42,638 --> 00:42:45,311 It's a dreadful experience. 647 00:42:46,558 --> 00:42:48,355 It's been hard, Lars. 648 00:42:48,678 --> 00:42:52,990 It's been hard to watch everything that you guys do and you touch turn to gold 649 00:42:53,158 --> 00:42:56,230 and everything I do fucking backfire. 650 00:42:56,918 --> 00:42:59,193 And I'm sure there's a lot of people that 651 00:42:59,358 --> 00:43:03,192 they would consider my backfire complete success. 652 00:43:03,358 --> 00:43:07,271 You know? And am I happy being number two? No. 653 00:43:08,758 --> 00:43:11,192 You know? You're just now encountering something 654 00:43:11,358 --> 00:43:14,509 I've been going through 13, 14 years. 655 00:43:14,678 --> 00:43:18,432 I've never had a chance to be able to tell you without 656 00:43:18,598 --> 00:43:20,270 talking to Lars, the guy in Metallica. 657 00:43:20,438 --> 00:43:24,511 Never talked to my little Danish friend again. You know? 658 00:43:24,678 --> 00:43:27,431 I remember the day you and I talked about digging a hole in fucking dirt 659 00:43:27,598 --> 00:43:31,035 and smoking hash through the ground. 660 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,671 That to me is the stuff that's, like-- 661 00:43:36,879 --> 00:43:42,033 You know? And we've never had very many moments like that. 662 00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:45,356 Do I feel some guilt? Yes, I do. 663 00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,636 But at the same time, it's difficult for me to comprehend 664 00:43:48,799 --> 00:43:52,587 that the only thing that you feel 665 00:43:52,759 --> 00:43:56,513 when you look back on the last 20 years 666 00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:01,036 is rooted in the Metallica thing. 667 00:44:02,879 --> 00:44:04,358 Okay. 668 00:44:05,799 --> 00:44:08,518 Have you ever thought what--? What I've been through? 669 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,877 I think I've had an awareness of the pain I caused you. 670 00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,030 MUSTAINE: That's not what I said. 671 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:16,632 Okay. 672 00:44:16,799 --> 00:44:18,027 Do you have any idea--? 673 00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:22,078 - Of what I put you through. - No, no, no, what I went through. 674 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:26,189 I mean, people hate me because of you. 675 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,110 You know, I walk down the street, and I hear some piece of shit 676 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,477 say "Metallica" at me, and they do that to taunt me. 677 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,714 I mean, when I would hear Metallica on the radio, 678 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,951 I would be like, "God, I have to turn this off," 679 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,159 because I just keep thinking, "I fucked up!" 680 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,117 Right. 681 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,349 I've been waiting for this day for a long time. 682 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,399 You know? And by no means is it done because 683 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,551 somebody else very important is not here. 684 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,438 TOWLE: Right. 685 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,075 MUSTAINE: Do I wish it was 1982 all over again, 686 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,639 and you guys woke me up and say: 687 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,112 "Hey, Dave, you know what? You need to go to AA"? Yeah. 688 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,675 I'd give anything for that chance. 689 00:45:22,121 --> 00:45:24,954 Is there any last words you wanna say to everybody out there? 690 00:45:25,121 --> 00:45:27,271 Metal up your ass! 691 00:45:27,481 --> 00:45:31,235 Okay, thank you. This is Donna Davis, and this is Metallica. 692 00:45:38,481 --> 00:45:40,551 REPORTER: This is, like, a pretty bitchin' club 693 00:45:40,721 --> 00:45:42,074 to play the first fucking gig. 694 00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:43,879 DONKIN: Yeah. - How do you guys feel? 695 00:45:44,081 --> 00:45:46,470 SAGRAFENA: Stoked. - Freaking out. 696 00:45:46,641 --> 00:45:49,758 REPORTER: Freaking out? - Totally. Totally. 697 00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:53,516 It's un-fucking-believable is what it comes down to. Can I say that? 698 00:45:53,681 --> 00:45:56,753 - You can say whatever you want. - It's fucking unbelievable. 699 00:45:59,641 --> 00:46:02,235 WOMAN: Echobrain. Yeah. 700 00:46:02,441 --> 00:46:05,638 I don't know, I just-- All of a sudden this became such a big production. 701 00:46:05,841 --> 00:46:08,639 I don't understand. It's like all of a sudden, like-- 702 00:46:08,841 --> 00:46:12,151 I get one phone call, it's like everybody and their fucking brother are in town. 703 00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:16,713 I thought it'd be Jason, like, playing with his new band 704 00:46:16,882 --> 00:46:20,716 in front of, you know, like, 20 drunks down at some bar or something. 705 00:46:20,882 --> 00:46:26,036 And now, I guess, to my own ignorance or something, l-- 706 00:46:26,242 --> 00:46:28,392 That's what-- I guess that's what I wanted it to be. 707 00:46:28,562 --> 00:46:35,240 So now I'm realizing that supposedly it's a little more of a big deal than that. 708 00:46:35,842 --> 00:46:37,400 [ECHOBRAIN PLAYING] 709 00:47:10,442 --> 00:47:12,911 - Hey, what's happening, man? - What's going on? 710 00:47:13,083 --> 00:47:15,916 HAMMETT: Sounded good. Very good. - Thanks. Thanks, man, thanks. 711 00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:18,074 - Awesome. Awesome. - Oh, thanks. Right on. 712 00:47:18,363 --> 00:47:21,196 - I'm Lars. How you doing? DONKIN: Nice to meet you. 713 00:47:21,363 --> 00:47:22,716 Where's Jason? 714 00:47:22,883 --> 00:47:24,202 - Jas? - I don't know. 715 00:47:24,363 --> 00:47:26,718 I think he went back to-- I think he already fucking bailed. 716 00:47:26,883 --> 00:47:28,953 - He went back to-- - Really? 717 00:47:29,163 --> 00:47:32,872 Nice. Go back to say hey, and he's, like, fucking gone. 718 00:47:33,043 --> 00:47:35,079 Elvis has left the building. 719 00:47:36,363 --> 00:47:39,878 There's Zach. Hey, Zach. 720 00:47:40,043 --> 00:47:42,557 See, he's even blowing me off. 721 00:47:43,883 --> 00:47:45,953 Jason blows me off. Zach blows me off. 722 00:47:46,123 --> 00:47:48,193 ULRICH: How quick we become yesterday's news. 723 00:47:48,363 --> 00:47:49,796 ROCK: No-- No kidding. 724 00:47:50,763 --> 00:47:52,355 See, there's a guy in an Echobrain T-shirt. 725 00:47:52,563 --> 00:47:55,953 ROCK: Yeah, that's Steve over there. He works at the studio with us. 726 00:47:57,043 --> 00:47:58,271 Well, he is. 727 00:47:58,443 --> 00:48:00,001 ULRICH: Really? - Yeah. 728 00:48:00,163 --> 00:48:01,516 I remember that guy. 729 00:48:01,683 --> 00:48:03,162 I remember him. He worked at the studio. 730 00:48:03,323 --> 00:48:04,881 - Which guy? - Over there. 731 00:48:05,043 --> 00:48:07,114 - The guy in the red shorts? - No, the guy in the black 732 00:48:07,284 --> 00:48:10,560 that's walking across right now. Kessel. 733 00:48:11,364 --> 00:48:13,355 Todd. He works at the studio too, doesn't he? 734 00:48:13,564 --> 00:48:16,158 ULRICH: Who? - Todd over there. 735 00:48:16,324 --> 00:48:18,315 ULRICH: I'm sure they're all here, Bob. 736 00:48:18,484 --> 00:48:20,076 I mean, the only two people in the Bay Area 737 00:48:20,244 --> 00:48:22,360 not working for him is me and you. 738 00:48:23,164 --> 00:48:25,314 Hetfield's gonna freak. 739 00:48:25,484 --> 00:48:28,157 I'm in fucking hell. 740 00:48:28,324 --> 00:48:30,042 This whole gig has brought all of this on. 741 00:48:30,204 --> 00:48:31,557 Yes, it has. It's made me feel like-- 742 00:48:31,764 --> 00:48:35,962 - You really wanna come clean. - It made me feel like such a loser. 743 00:48:36,804 --> 00:48:40,638 I mean, I can't hold my band together, you know. 744 00:48:40,804 --> 00:48:43,637 I start records, I don't finish them. 745 00:48:43,804 --> 00:48:46,193 I fucking-- 746 00:48:46,484 --> 00:48:47,883 [GROANS] 747 00:48:52,164 --> 00:48:56,077 Jason is the future. Metallica's the past. 748 00:48:57,084 --> 00:49:00,076 I've never had a break like this in 20 years. 749 00:49:00,244 --> 00:49:03,874 Do you know what I mean? And just-- What's been kind of getting me 750 00:49:04,045 --> 00:49:05,364 is just not knowing. 751 00:49:05,525 --> 00:49:11,634 You know what I mean? Not knowing and not hearing, it just eats away at you. 752 00:49:11,805 --> 00:49:15,639 - Kirk talked to him. HAMMETT: I talked to James today. 753 00:49:16,165 --> 00:49:18,076 TOWLE: What did he say? 754 00:49:18,245 --> 00:49:21,396 He basically said that, you know, he just-- 755 00:49:21,565 --> 00:49:23,556 His family's the priority right now, 756 00:49:23,765 --> 00:49:27,644 and he needs time to work on his family 757 00:49:27,805 --> 00:49:31,923 before he can reach out to his other family, being us. 758 00:49:32,245 --> 00:49:35,635 And that he loves us, and he just needs for us 759 00:49:35,805 --> 00:49:39,320 to understand that he needs time. 760 00:49:39,485 --> 00:49:43,398 And he also went on about how difficult it was 761 00:49:43,565 --> 00:49:47,399 talking to you about it, because he felt pressured. 762 00:49:47,565 --> 00:49:50,557 And, you know, he spoke about how you always need 763 00:49:50,765 --> 00:49:55,555 to be in control of the situation or in control of the schedule or whatever. 764 00:49:55,765 --> 00:49:58,485 And he said that this is a time 765 00:49:58,646 --> 00:50:01,160 he needs complete control of the situation. 766 00:50:01,326 --> 00:50:04,955 And he said, you know, all the Marc Reiters and the Bob Rocks, 767 00:50:05,166 --> 00:50:09,637 all that stuff, you know, just has-- "I can't think of that right now." 768 00:50:09,806 --> 00:50:13,640 So, you know, I got the feeling that he kind of lumps in your relationship 769 00:50:13,806 --> 00:50:15,558 with the business side of things, 770 00:50:15,766 --> 00:50:19,076 which was actually really surprising to me. 771 00:50:22,486 --> 00:50:25,478 But I think that's-- You know, that explains-- 772 00:50:25,646 --> 00:50:30,162 I think that explains a lot on why he hasn't spoken to you. 773 00:50:32,646 --> 00:50:39,085 We're just in limbo, and the longer James chooses to stay away 774 00:50:39,246 --> 00:50:42,955 from dealing with us, the further we drift apart. 775 00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:50,163 And I just feel so disrespected. 776 00:50:50,326 --> 00:50:53,842 And that's the key thing. 777 00:50:57,007 --> 00:50:58,565 REPORTER: Was the future of the group ever in doubt? 778 00:50:58,767 --> 00:51:00,997 Even when James went into rehab, do you think? 779 00:51:01,167 --> 00:51:04,125 Lars and I, we were wondering 780 00:51:04,287 --> 00:51:10,556 when James was going to finally feel like he was in a situation 781 00:51:10,767 --> 00:51:12,564 where he can come back to the band. 782 00:51:12,767 --> 00:51:17,397 And after a certain amount of months, you know, Lars and I started to think: 783 00:51:17,567 --> 00:51:20,001 "Well, is he ever gonna come back to the band?" 784 00:51:20,167 --> 00:51:22,840 And that was a really big question on our plates. 785 00:51:23,007 --> 00:51:25,396 Whether or not, you know, he wanted to come back. 786 00:51:33,767 --> 00:51:38,238 ULRICH: James wrote something in the new issue of our magazine, So What! 787 00:51:38,407 --> 00:51:41,843 He wrote a kind of a little handwritten note. 788 00:51:42,007 --> 00:51:44,760 That note was probably the most heartfelt thing 789 00:51:44,927 --> 00:51:49,763 that I'd ever seen come from his mind. 790 00:51:51,448 --> 00:51:56,602 Tomorrow is shaping up, or is gearing itself up to be, 791 00:51:56,768 --> 00:52:03,799 yes, the first sit-down with one James Hetfield post-rehab. 792 00:52:17,848 --> 00:52:19,679 Why are we filming this? 793 00:52:20,808 --> 00:52:22,526 I don't know. 794 00:52:35,608 --> 00:52:36,927 We're in very different places. 795 00:52:37,088 --> 00:52:41,559 Or at least I am in a very different place than I was from the Presidio. 796 00:52:43,288 --> 00:52:46,725 That's a huge understatement. 797 00:52:48,529 --> 00:52:50,520 So we just have to find that if-- 798 00:52:50,689 --> 00:52:56,605 You know, if the movie will be as intense, you know. 799 00:52:56,809 --> 00:52:59,448 To me there was a lot of intrusion, 800 00:52:59,609 --> 00:53:03,602 and I kind of went with it and felt-- 801 00:53:03,809 --> 00:53:07,119 I felt uncomfortable. I felt uncomfortable with it. 802 00:53:07,289 --> 00:53:09,200 You know, a boom following me around, 803 00:53:09,409 --> 00:53:12,128 and it just felt like I was in the spotlight all the time. 804 00:53:12,289 --> 00:53:15,008 And I didn't-- I guess I don't really like that feeling. 805 00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:18,838 While we were in the Presidio filming you guys playing, 806 00:53:19,009 --> 00:53:20,522 - did you feel it then too? HETFIELD: Yeah. 807 00:53:20,689 --> 00:53:22,998 It was-- It was pretty much all the time. 808 00:53:23,209 --> 00:53:25,040 SINOFS Y: Do you think you're in a better place now? 809 00:53:25,209 --> 00:53:26,244 We gotta find some... 810 00:53:26,409 --> 00:53:27,683 HETFIELD: I'm definitely in a better place. 811 00:53:27,849 --> 00:53:29,123 Some place that makes you feel comfortable. 812 00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:31,757 The last thing we wanna do is have it impede on your music, 813 00:53:31,929 --> 00:53:33,999 because that's more important than anything. 814 00:53:34,169 --> 00:53:36,205 You know, one answer may be there-- 815 00:53:36,369 --> 00:53:37,927 Maybe there shouldn't be a film. 816 00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:41,924 I mean, that's the range of possibilities that we should really think about, 817 00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:45,002 because, I mean, why do you guys want a film? 818 00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:47,889 Even you said you hope that the film is made. I mean-- 819 00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:50,689 That's a big question, because, for me, it was really just-- 820 00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:52,926 It came along with being in Metallica. 821 00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:55,558 "Hey, we're gonna do this." "Oh, okay." 822 00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:59,644 That's part of this, all of this... 823 00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:03,280 The bigness of Metallica, and I'm kind of tired of it. 824 00:54:03,810 --> 00:54:07,803 You might look at it as a friend. To me, it's been a beast. 825 00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:12,361 And it's sucked a lot of me into it. 826 00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:14,880 You were maybe the keeper of the beast at one point. 827 00:54:15,050 --> 00:54:19,965 You know, because you were the champion of that fifth-- That entity. 828 00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:22,121 And, of course, you gotta find the right balance 829 00:54:22,290 --> 00:54:23,962 between what everybody's personal needs are, 830 00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:28,123 but if Metallica collectively decides to do this, 831 00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:31,202 then I think Metallica can make it happen. 832 00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:33,440 I don't know. That scares me again. 833 00:54:33,610 --> 00:54:36,603 Metallica is three individuals. 834 00:54:36,771 --> 00:54:40,047 And three individuals have to decide if it's good to do. 835 00:54:40,211 --> 00:54:45,888 But I still think that the priority is the collective 836 00:54:46,051 --> 00:54:49,282 until all the people involved in the collective 837 00:54:49,451 --> 00:54:53,490 say that the priority is the individual. 838 00:54:53,651 --> 00:54:56,529 And so far, you're the only one that said the priority is the individual. 839 00:54:56,691 --> 00:54:59,569 I haven't said that. He hasn't said that. 840 00:54:59,771 --> 00:55:01,045 I haven't heard him say that. 841 00:55:01,211 --> 00:55:06,365 So I feel that it's still-- There's still an unbalance there. 842 00:55:13,971 --> 00:55:16,804 HAMMETT: We met from, like, maybe, I don't know, six or eight weeks 843 00:55:16,971 --> 00:55:20,407 before we actually picked up the project again. 844 00:55:22,211 --> 00:55:25,044 That was when we came in, and it was the first time 845 00:55:25,211 --> 00:55:28,248 we actually used this studio, HQ. 846 00:55:29,211 --> 00:55:33,000 Anyway, here we are. HQ. 847 00:55:35,492 --> 00:55:38,290 Right on. Well, we're here. 848 00:55:39,492 --> 00:55:41,483 And the camera's here. 849 00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:44,883 And my friend the boom is here. 850 00:55:45,052 --> 00:55:48,169 ROCK: Hovering. - Yeah. Cool. 851 00:55:48,372 --> 00:55:50,328 Do you want me to play the music? 852 00:55:50,492 --> 00:55:53,802 HETFIELD: Yeah, let's go. I'm-- 853 00:55:53,972 --> 00:55:56,645 ROCK: I'll put the big speakers on. 854 00:56:00,172 --> 00:56:05,087 HETFIELD: I was afraid to pick up a guitar and fearful of what would happen. 855 00:56:05,252 --> 00:56:07,846 Would I not like it? Would I love it? 856 00:56:07,972 --> 00:56:10,406 Would I not be able to write anything cool? 857 00:56:10,572 --> 00:56:13,962 Would I write just recovery stuff? 858 00:56:14,572 --> 00:56:16,449 James. 859 00:56:16,772 --> 00:56:19,923 It was probably the best sound I've ever heard in my life, 860 00:56:20,092 --> 00:56:22,970 just the fact that you were playing guitar in here. 861 00:56:24,172 --> 00:56:26,767 MAN: Hey, Zach. - Right on, brother. 862 00:56:26,933 --> 00:56:28,810 ULRICH: Play a riff. 863 00:57:05,253 --> 00:57:07,608 ROCK: What? - Nothing. 864 00:57:08,173 --> 00:57:10,846 See? It feels pretty good, doesn't it? 865 00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:13,368 HETFIELD: Yeah. - It feels like the next day. 866 00:57:15,013 --> 00:57:17,527 A year later, the next day. 867 00:57:24,374 --> 00:57:26,251 It will be interesting working on this schedule, 868 00:57:26,414 --> 00:57:29,087 because we really haven't. It's gonna be great. 869 00:57:29,254 --> 00:57:32,564 HETFIELD: And kind of the overview is, you know, the less time we have here, 870 00:57:32,774 --> 00:57:35,572 the more productive we'll be, in a way, you know? 871 00:57:35,774 --> 00:57:39,926 It's like we're more focused on getting the stuff done. 872 00:57:40,094 --> 00:57:45,373 That all sounds really good. Okay. Now, let's revisit it in a week. 873 00:57:45,654 --> 00:57:50,045 So I think that, don't talk it, walk it. 874 00:57:53,134 --> 00:57:55,887 At some point, we are gonna have to work a little harder. 875 00:57:56,094 --> 00:57:58,130 ULRICH: Yes. - You know, when that feels right. 876 00:57:58,294 --> 00:58:00,444 HETFIELD: What do you mean? What does that mean? 877 00:58:00,614 --> 00:58:02,650 - What does that mean? HETFIELD: Yeah. 878 00:58:02,814 --> 00:58:04,805 When you say harder, does that mean more hours? 879 00:58:05,254 --> 00:58:10,886 You know, if we can go deep real quick, 880 00:58:11,094 --> 00:58:12,413 be intense... 881 00:58:12,574 --> 00:58:14,246 I spoke up because, "What does that mean, 882 00:58:14,414 --> 00:58:16,292 we have to, you know, do eight hours now?" 883 00:58:16,495 --> 00:58:21,250 - And I got fearful right then. ROCK: That's okay. 884 00:58:21,495 --> 00:58:23,486 I mean, it's like... Yeah. 885 00:58:23,655 --> 00:58:26,044 HETFIELD: To do eight hours? ROCK: No. 886 00:58:47,175 --> 00:58:48,813 ULRICH: Any lyric ideas? 887 00:58:48,975 --> 00:58:50,806 HAMMETT [SINGS]: I'm searching for-- 888 00:58:50,975 --> 00:58:52,727 ULRICH: Searching for doughnuts. 889 00:58:52,895 --> 00:58:54,886 HAMMETT [SINGS]: Searching for doughnuts 890 00:58:55,055 --> 00:58:57,091 [SINGS] Searching for doughnuts 891 00:58:58,095 --> 00:58:59,574 What was the whole thing from yesterday? 892 00:58:59,775 --> 00:59:01,572 - The Buddhist-- HAMMETT: Guarantee-- What? 893 00:59:01,735 --> 00:59:03,930 No, the Buddhist thing that you had. 894 00:59:04,095 --> 00:59:08,247 Birth is pain, life is pain, death is pain. 895 00:59:08,415 --> 00:59:11,487 The cycle of suffering. It's called samsara. 896 00:59:11,656 --> 00:59:13,965 ROCK: Where are you with this, James? 897 00:59:14,976 --> 00:59:16,967 Somewhere else. 898 00:59:17,816 --> 00:59:20,410 Where's today's sweat going? 899 00:59:20,576 --> 00:59:24,410 "I've worn out being afraid. My endless parade 900 00:59:24,576 --> 00:59:27,374 of fear that I've constantly made." 901 00:59:27,656 --> 00:59:30,648 "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle. 902 00:59:30,816 --> 00:59:34,934 A rising tide that pushes to the other side." 903 00:59:35,136 --> 00:59:36,649 [MUSIC OVER SPEAKERS] 904 00:59:40,896 --> 00:59:43,808 [SINGS] I've worn out being afraid Endless parade 905 00:59:43,976 --> 00:59:46,729 Of fear that I've constantly made 906 00:59:46,896 --> 00:59:50,445 Frantic tick tick tick tock I gladly trade 907 00:59:50,736 --> 00:59:54,490 Oh, I need know the answer Where I'll be laid 908 00:59:55,936 --> 00:59:58,530 I can't find it 909 00:59:59,056 --> 01:00:00,887 - It just-- It doesn't work. ROCK: The great-- 910 01:00:01,056 --> 01:00:02,887 You did one great thing. You went: 911 01:00:03,056 --> 01:00:04,887 [HUMMING] 912 01:00:05,056 --> 01:00:08,288 You did this one syncopated thing. 913 01:00:11,057 --> 01:00:12,775 Do the whole verse like that. 914 01:00:12,937 --> 01:00:15,405 HETFIELD [SINGS]: I've worn out always being afraid 915 01:00:15,577 --> 01:00:18,455 An endless stream of fear That I've made 916 01:00:18,617 --> 01:00:22,895 Frantic tick tick tock I'll gladly trade 917 01:00:23,057 --> 01:00:24,695 It's weird. It's weird. And it works. 918 01:00:24,897 --> 01:00:27,775 ULRICH: No, but the second time you felt really comfortable with it. 919 01:00:27,937 --> 01:00:29,370 HETFIELD: Right. 920 01:00:29,537 --> 01:00:31,732 TOWLE: Oh, by the way, it's quarter to 4. 921 01:00:32,697 --> 01:00:34,813 HETFIELD: I gotta get rolling, guys. Sorry. 922 01:00:53,137 --> 01:00:56,288 HETFIELD: I feel like the bad guy saying, "I gotta go because it's 4:00." 923 01:00:56,497 --> 01:01:01,571 If we all know, and we all do know, that 4:00 is kind of the stop time, 924 01:01:01,737 --> 01:01:04,332 then, I don't know, then I won't feel like the heel here, saying: 925 01:01:04,458 --> 01:01:06,972 "I gotta go eat dinner with my kids," you know. 926 01:01:07,138 --> 01:01:09,208 Because I have a feeling I'm gonna walk out of here, 927 01:01:09,378 --> 01:01:11,369 and you're gonna go in there and listen to this stuff, 928 01:01:11,538 --> 01:01:13,893 - and it's like, that's not right. ULRICH: That's not. 929 01:01:14,058 --> 01:01:17,130 I mean, if I wanna listen to it, I'll go and listen to it. 930 01:01:17,298 --> 01:01:19,493 But we should at least listen to it-- 931 01:01:19,658 --> 01:01:21,888 But I know you'll sit there and start talking with Bob. 932 01:01:22,058 --> 01:01:24,492 Maybe Bob doesn't wanna sit in there, and when I'm gone, 933 01:01:24,658 --> 01:01:26,489 things get talked about and decisions are made. 934 01:01:26,658 --> 01:01:29,968 And I feel I walk into something that's already kind of decided. 935 01:01:30,138 --> 01:01:32,288 And it's a total uphill battle for me a lot of times. 936 01:01:32,498 --> 01:01:34,216 I don't like that feeling. 937 01:01:34,378 --> 01:01:36,255 HAMMETT: Well, that's, like, just like the last 15 years, 938 01:01:36,418 --> 01:01:37,646 HETFIELD: Yeah. - for me. 939 01:01:37,818 --> 01:01:40,207 Well, let's talk about this tomorrow, then, all right? 940 01:01:40,378 --> 01:01:41,697 Or do you wanna take time out--? 941 01:01:41,858 --> 01:01:43,291 HETFIELD: No, I don't have time right now, 942 01:01:43,498 --> 01:01:45,693 because it's past 4. 943 01:01:46,978 --> 01:01:51,130 It's hard to introduce structure into this, and I'm trying. 944 01:01:51,298 --> 01:01:52,777 TOWLE: So, what do you think, Lars? 945 01:01:53,578 --> 01:01:56,411 Can we hear the song from yesterday? 946 01:01:56,578 --> 01:01:58,137 That we all heard together? 947 01:01:58,299 --> 01:02:00,654 HETFIELD: How is that different? 948 01:02:00,819 --> 01:02:02,411 Because we all heard it together already. 949 01:02:02,579 --> 01:02:04,137 TOWLE: He wants to be part of everything. 950 01:02:04,299 --> 01:02:05,288 HETFIELD: Was I in there? 951 01:02:05,499 --> 01:02:09,128 Yes, you were. We all heard it together yesterday. 952 01:02:09,299 --> 01:02:10,698 ROCK: You came in. HETFIELD: All right. 953 01:02:10,899 --> 01:02:12,890 As long as you don't talk about it. 954 01:02:13,899 --> 01:02:15,127 TOWLE: Is that a way around it, or--? 955 01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:16,573 HETFIELD: That is definitely a way around it. 956 01:02:16,739 --> 01:02:20,618 TOWLE: How about if we just save up the tension? 957 01:02:20,779 --> 01:02:25,728 Seriously. I mean, that's okay, because tension produces results. 958 01:02:45,819 --> 01:02:47,775 [CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING OVER STEREO] 959 01:02:57,860 --> 01:03:00,249 HETFIELD: I'm excited to see what you learned here. 960 01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:06,739 TEACHER: Up and back. Up and freeze. 961 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:08,458 What is this called? 962 01:03:08,620 --> 01:03:10,576 CHILDREN: Arabesque. 963 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:15,490 Super proud of you, sweetie. 964 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:16,894 I'm so glad I got to see it. 965 01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:18,692 I'm working on-- Really hard, on being 966 01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:22,409 the best dad and father and husband I can be. 967 01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:24,899 And the best me. 968 01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:27,409 TEACHER: You worked hard. 969 01:03:27,580 --> 01:03:29,730 HETFIELD: I don't wanna lose any of the stuff I have. 970 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,016 I know it could all go away at one time, 971 01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:34,410 and that's a tough part of life. 972 01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:38,175 And then-- And it's just-- It's a total rebirth for me, 973 01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:41,173 looking at life in a whole new way. 974 01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:46,178 You know, all the other drinking and all the other junk that I was stuck in, 975 01:03:46,340 --> 01:03:48,490 it was so predictable, so boring. 976 01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:52,580 I'm out there looking for excitement in all this stuff. 977 01:03:52,741 --> 01:03:54,777 The results are the same, man. 978 01:03:54,941 --> 01:03:57,296 I wake up the next day somewhere in some bed, 979 01:03:57,461 --> 01:03:59,179 I don't know who this person is next to me, 980 01:03:59,341 --> 01:04:03,493 and I'm drunk, completely hung-over and have a show to do. 981 01:04:03,701 --> 01:04:06,613 And the result is the same. 982 01:04:06,781 --> 01:04:10,774 You know? When life now is pretty exciting. 983 01:04:10,941 --> 01:04:12,613 You don't know what's gonna happen 984 01:04:12,781 --> 01:04:16,296 when you're kind of clear and here and in the now. 985 01:04:16,501 --> 01:04:18,776 In the moment. 986 01:04:23,461 --> 01:04:25,019 [MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS] 987 01:04:25,941 --> 01:04:28,933 My lifestyle determines My deathstyle 988 01:04:29,101 --> 01:04:31,934 A rising tide That pushes to the other side 989 01:04:32,101 --> 01:04:35,218 My lifestyle determines My deathstyle 990 01:04:35,381 --> 01:04:38,578 A rising tide That pushes to the other side 991 01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:42,097 I think those two feel the best to me. 992 01:04:42,301 --> 01:04:44,611 It's a tough one to decide. They all kind of got 993 01:04:44,782 --> 01:04:46,010 some charm, don't you think? 994 01:04:46,182 --> 01:04:48,013 ULRICH: Yeah, I'd be interested to hear the first one. 995 01:04:48,182 --> 01:04:49,854 From the first take. 996 01:04:50,022 --> 01:04:51,501 Well, let's play it. 997 01:04:51,662 --> 01:04:52,890 - Is it okay? ULRICH: Are we allowed? 998 01:04:53,062 --> 01:04:54,461 - Yeah, we are. - Do we have--? 999 01:04:54,622 --> 01:04:57,932 - We never really settled that, did we? TOWLE: We didn't settle it. 1000 01:04:58,102 --> 01:05:00,900 ULRICH: Yes. We're allowed. Well, I'd like to hear it. 1001 01:05:01,102 --> 01:05:04,697 Feel free to leave the room, whoever doesn't want to be part of that. 1002 01:05:09,702 --> 01:05:12,296 HETFIELD: I felt like it was an agreement. 1003 01:05:12,462 --> 01:05:14,293 We're gonna work from 12 to 4, 1004 01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:18,058 and then we would not work. 1005 01:05:18,222 --> 01:05:21,532 ROCK: Well, if Lars and I listen to something 1006 01:05:21,702 --> 01:05:23,215 or go through the Presidio stuff, 1007 01:05:23,382 --> 01:05:26,454 it's not because we wanna do something behind your back. 1008 01:05:27,062 --> 01:05:29,053 It's for you. 1009 01:05:29,222 --> 01:05:31,816 And basically what I heard is, "No, I can't do that." 1010 01:05:31,942 --> 01:05:33,341 What the fuck is that? 1011 01:05:33,502 --> 01:05:35,333 HETFIELD: I don't know, my mind gets lopsided. 1012 01:05:35,502 --> 01:05:38,699 The more it goes in a different direction, the harder it is. 1013 01:05:38,902 --> 01:05:41,622 The harder it is to get that back. 1014 01:05:41,783 --> 01:05:44,217 TOWLE: What is it you have to get back? 1015 01:05:44,383 --> 01:05:51,653 Some control. Some sense of involvement in the band. 1016 01:05:53,063 --> 01:05:56,100 When I was running this morning, I was thinking about seeing you today, 1017 01:05:56,263 --> 01:05:59,016 and the word "fuck" just comes up so much. 1018 01:05:59,183 --> 01:06:01,651 Seriously, it's really true. 1019 01:06:01,863 --> 01:06:05,173 - Is that in anger? - No, just, "Fuck!" 1020 01:06:05,343 --> 01:06:07,254 "Fuck." 1021 01:06:09,183 --> 01:06:12,812 I just think you're so fucking self-absorbed. 1022 01:06:12,983 --> 01:06:17,659 And what makes it worse is that you always talk about... 1023 01:06:18,903 --> 01:06:21,053 You always talk about me. You use the word "control" 1024 01:06:21,263 --> 01:06:26,018 and "manipulation" a lot. I think you control on purpose, 1025 01:06:26,183 --> 01:06:28,014 and I think you control inadvertently. 1026 01:06:28,183 --> 01:06:31,255 I think you control by the rules you always set. 1027 01:06:31,423 --> 01:06:34,415 I think you control by how you always judge people. 1028 01:06:34,583 --> 01:06:37,496 I think you control by your absence. 1029 01:06:37,664 --> 01:06:41,100 I think you control all of this even when you're not here. 1030 01:06:45,184 --> 01:06:48,256 I don't understand who you are. I don't understand the program. 1031 01:06:48,424 --> 01:06:50,494 I don't understand all this stuff, okay? 1032 01:06:50,664 --> 01:06:55,340 I realize now that I barely knew you before. 1033 01:06:55,504 --> 01:06:57,859 And all these rules and all this shit, man, 1034 01:06:58,024 --> 01:07:00,663 this is a fucking rock 'n' roll band. 1035 01:07:00,864 --> 01:07:03,139 I don't want fucking rules. 1036 01:07:03,944 --> 01:07:07,380 I understand that you need to leave at 4. 1037 01:07:07,584 --> 01:07:09,495 I respect it. 1038 01:07:09,664 --> 01:07:14,658 But don't tell me I can't sit and listen to something with Bob at 4:15 if I want to. 1039 01:07:14,824 --> 01:07:16,974 What the fuck is that? 1040 01:07:17,144 --> 01:07:21,501 You know, I don't wanna end up like Jason, okay? 1041 01:07:21,664 --> 01:07:25,816 I don't want to be pushed away. I don't want it to happen twice. 1042 01:07:26,984 --> 01:07:31,217 Let's do it, and let's fucking do it full-on or let's not do it at all. 1043 01:07:31,825 --> 01:07:33,895 Fuck. See? 1044 01:07:34,065 --> 01:07:35,896 Fuck. 1045 01:07:36,305 --> 01:07:37,897 Fuck! 1046 01:07:38,225 --> 01:07:40,295 Fuck! 1047 01:07:41,065 --> 01:07:42,896 MAN 1: Yeah! 1048 01:07:44,785 --> 01:07:47,379 MAN 2: Yeah! MAN 3: Metallica. Yeah! 1049 01:07:47,505 --> 01:07:49,302 MAN 4: Rock 'n' roll. 1050 01:08:07,505 --> 01:08:08,779 [GONGS] 1051 01:08:14,385 --> 01:08:15,500 [LAUGHING] 1052 01:08:37,586 --> 01:08:39,781 MAN: Let's hear it for Elena! 1053 01:08:54,586 --> 01:08:58,499 HETFIELD: We're not anywhere near getting any issues resolved. 1054 01:08:58,666 --> 01:09:01,897 TOWLE: Well, let's get them. That's what we're here to do. 1055 01:09:02,106 --> 01:09:04,301 I don't know. I guess the playing part, being in the room, 1056 01:09:04,466 --> 01:09:07,139 and then mainly being in the room with Lars, playing music together. 1057 01:09:07,306 --> 01:09:09,342 I guess I had higher expectations, and I don't know, 1058 01:09:09,506 --> 01:09:11,815 maybe I'm disappointed in myself. 1059 01:09:11,986 --> 01:09:14,056 Maybe... I don't know. 1060 01:09:14,466 --> 01:09:16,616 You wanna talk about that? I mean, what does that mean? 1061 01:09:16,826 --> 01:09:20,136 I'm not enjoying being in the room with you playing. 1062 01:09:22,987 --> 01:09:25,137 [SINGS] Searching 1063 01:09:25,307 --> 01:09:26,820 Seek and destroy 1064 01:09:30,147 --> 01:09:31,819 Searching 1065 01:09:32,147 --> 01:09:33,865 Seek and destroy 1066 01:09:36,827 --> 01:09:38,897 Searching, yeah 1067 01:09:39,067 --> 01:09:41,661 Seek and destroy 1068 01:09:42,827 --> 01:09:46,422 ULRICH: If you are not having any fun, 1069 01:09:46,827 --> 01:09:50,456 let me let it be known to you that I'm not having a lot of fun either. 1070 01:09:50,627 --> 01:09:54,017 But I've-- I am not interested in playing music with you 1071 01:09:54,227 --> 01:09:55,785 if you're not happy in there. 1072 01:09:56,147 --> 01:09:58,945 I just don't want to be a-- Become a fucking parody. 1073 01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:03,016 Okay? So if you're not happy playing music with me: 1074 01:10:18,228 --> 01:10:22,460 Is there enough that connects us to hold on 1075 01:10:22,628 --> 01:10:27,224 for a way through this? 1076 01:10:29,548 --> 01:10:31,539 I don't know. 1077 01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:34,867 There are moments where I really doubt it. 1078 01:10:36,828 --> 01:10:39,023 Really doubt it. 1079 01:10:39,228 --> 01:10:40,866 HETFIELD: I'm glad you said that. 1080 01:10:41,028 --> 01:10:45,863 Because I really, deep down, feel sometimes that it's just... 1081 01:10:46,388 --> 01:10:49,983 There's just some empty, just... 1082 01:10:50,148 --> 01:10:51,627 Just an ugly feeling inside. 1083 01:10:51,828 --> 01:10:55,423 Just... I don't know. 1084 01:10:56,828 --> 01:10:59,900 How much work do we gotta put into this? 1085 01:11:11,628 --> 01:11:13,904 - Then you're doing the: HAMMETT: Yeah. 1086 01:11:15,909 --> 01:11:19,219 ROCK: Let's do our little roundtable thing right now, quickly. 1087 01:11:19,389 --> 01:11:22,142 Everybody's gotta participate. 1088 01:11:22,309 --> 01:11:24,664 Lars, come on. 1089 01:11:25,709 --> 01:11:27,779 [MUSIC OVER SPEAKERS] 1090 01:11:49,829 --> 01:11:53,424 Hey, Castor, why don't you look at all the boys-- The men, I should say. 1091 01:11:53,589 --> 01:11:55,341 And say bye to everybody. 1092 01:11:55,509 --> 01:11:56,498 [IN UNISON] Bye, Castor. 1093 01:11:56,669 --> 01:11:57,658 HAMMETT: Thank you for coming. 1094 01:11:57,829 --> 01:12:01,026 - Is Daddy going bye? - No, your dada's staying here, okay? 1095 01:12:01,189 --> 01:12:02,668 - Bye, guys. HETFIELD: See you. 1096 01:12:02,829 --> 01:12:06,583 ROCK: So, what's the deal? How does everybody feel about what they heard? 1097 01:12:06,749 --> 01:12:09,583 The chorus lyrics will definitely work in that feel. 1098 01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:13,663 - Yeah. - That kind of intro bit that's on there. 1099 01:12:14,030 --> 01:12:16,419 - What about you? What do you think? ULRICH: It's good. 1100 01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:20,703 You think it's good? Was there anything in particular that you...? 1101 01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:23,862 No, I wasn't paying attention that detailed. 1102 01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:25,907 That's just-- It's a lot of good stuff. 1103 01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:51,267 I can take you back, when me and him were alone in my room, in 1981, 1104 01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:54,820 listening to the new wave of British heavy-metal singles. 1105 01:12:54,990 --> 01:12:56,821 As soon as there was somebody else in the room, 1106 01:12:56,990 --> 01:13:01,700 it just became this, like-- It just had a very different energy to it. 1107 01:13:04,991 --> 01:13:08,028 - Is there any of that that's usable? - Yeah. 1108 01:13:08,991 --> 01:13:10,788 That's a fuck-- That's a fucking bitch. 1109 01:13:10,951 --> 01:13:12,828 ROCK: Let's do another version of it, okay? 1110 01:13:15,151 --> 01:13:17,381 ULRICH: The first time I got a real awareness of it 1111 01:13:17,551 --> 01:13:21,146 was when Mustaine came into the picture. 1112 01:13:22,151 --> 01:13:23,823 When James was with Mustaine, 1113 01:13:23,991 --> 01:13:27,825 he became like he never really cared about me. 1114 01:13:31,031 --> 01:13:34,307 One time during the recording of the Ride the Lightning record, 1115 01:13:34,471 --> 01:13:37,543 where me and him went out and-- So 42 beers later, 1116 01:13:37,711 --> 01:13:40,703 it was like, "Oh, dude, I love you." 1117 01:13:40,871 --> 01:13:46,150 But it could never have materialized until it got to that 42-beer point 1118 01:13:46,311 --> 01:13:48,541 and we were alone. 1119 01:13:53,951 --> 01:13:55,748 ROCK: That was good. 1120 01:13:56,631 --> 01:13:58,269 Are you sure I don't have to play it again? 1121 01:13:58,431 --> 01:14:01,947 ROCK: Yeah, I'm sure. It's good practice, though. 1122 01:14:02,112 --> 01:14:04,421 ULRICH: For what? ROCK: The road. 1123 01:14:04,592 --> 01:14:07,868 ULRICH: When? - A couple years. 1124 01:14:14,712 --> 01:14:18,546 HETFIELD: From day one, it's been competitive. 1125 01:14:18,712 --> 01:14:22,751 And in a way, that's what has made Metallica what it is. 1126 01:14:22,952 --> 01:14:26,342 That's what's driven us further. 1127 01:14:26,552 --> 01:14:28,429 ROCK: What feels good to you? 1128 01:14:28,592 --> 01:14:30,548 I don't know. I'm gonna try a bunch more. 1129 01:14:30,752 --> 01:14:32,504 Can you try maybe like a: 1130 01:14:32,672 --> 01:14:34,185 [IMITATING GUITAR] 1131 01:14:34,552 --> 01:14:36,622 Almost like a strum. 1132 01:14:40,432 --> 01:14:44,550 HETFIELD: My parents split when I was 12 or 13. 1133 01:14:44,752 --> 01:14:48,540 And then my mom passed on when I was 16. 1134 01:14:48,712 --> 01:14:54,025 The only thing I felt that I really had, at that point, was music. 1135 01:14:56,353 --> 01:14:58,787 My wanting to keep everything under control, 1136 01:14:58,953 --> 01:15:03,151 and, you know, it's out of a fear of my abandonment issues. 1137 01:15:06,153 --> 01:15:08,872 I'm afraid to get close to people because I don't know how to do it. 1138 01:15:09,033 --> 01:15:12,867 I don't know how you're supposed to do it. 1139 01:15:15,313 --> 01:15:17,349 ROCK: Cool. - That last one was pretty good. 1140 01:15:17,553 --> 01:15:19,464 ROCK: Yes. 1141 01:15:19,953 --> 01:15:22,547 HETFIELD: That's the first amp I ever owned. 1142 01:15:22,953 --> 01:15:24,989 That right there. 1143 01:15:40,353 --> 01:15:42,628 I think we have it. 1144 01:15:42,793 --> 01:15:44,351 HAMMETT: Okay. 1145 01:16:00,794 --> 01:16:02,989 ROCK: Okay. Now we gotta talk about it. 1146 01:16:04,794 --> 01:16:10,073 You started talking about the idea of the guitar solo, as we have known it, 1147 01:16:10,234 --> 01:16:14,307 maybe being something that was a little outdated 1148 01:16:14,474 --> 01:16:18,387 and maybe reintroducing some riff-o-rama things. 1149 01:16:18,554 --> 01:16:21,068 But can I say something that I think is bullshit? 1150 01:16:21,234 --> 01:16:24,624 This whole fucking solo out, you know, dates the whole thing. 1151 01:16:24,794 --> 01:16:26,785 That's so bullshit. You know? 1152 01:16:26,954 --> 01:16:29,912 If you put a guitar-- If you don't play a guitar solo in one of these songs, 1153 01:16:30,074 --> 01:16:31,746 that dates it to this period. 1154 01:16:31,914 --> 01:16:36,112 And that cements it to a trend that's happening in music right now. 1155 01:16:36,434 --> 01:16:38,504 I think that's stupid, and I think it's totally trendy. 1156 01:16:38,674 --> 01:16:40,665 ULRICH: I know that's not what I said. It's always been about, 1157 01:16:40,874 --> 01:16:44,230 like, where could it go that's kind of new and interesting, 1158 01:16:44,434 --> 01:16:46,824 instead of just repeating something from the past. 1159 01:16:47,235 --> 01:16:50,671 I'm not interested in playing traditional guitar solos anymore. 1160 01:16:50,875 --> 01:16:53,264 - You know, that's just-- For me, it's-- - And you told me that. 1161 01:16:53,475 --> 01:16:55,033 It's just boring, you know. 1162 01:16:55,195 --> 01:16:58,505 To me, if you can add a colour to the song 1163 01:16:58,675 --> 01:17:00,870 that satisfies you and works for the song, 1164 01:17:01,035 --> 01:17:02,673 then that's what we should do with it. 1165 01:17:02,875 --> 01:17:04,945 But I don't wanna get in the position where it's like, 1166 01:17:05,115 --> 01:17:08,266 we put something down on the tape to satisfy your ego, 1167 01:17:08,475 --> 01:17:10,864 my ego, Lars' ego or James' ego. 1168 01:17:11,075 --> 01:17:13,225 I think it should serve what's going down. 1169 01:17:13,435 --> 01:17:17,030 Like, in other words, there shouldn't be, like, a rule of no solos. 1170 01:17:17,195 --> 01:17:19,789 There shouldn't be a rule of solos. It should be-- 1171 01:17:19,955 --> 01:17:22,628 And I agree. I mean, it really is, to me, 1172 01:17:22,795 --> 01:17:24,945 all about serving the song, and, you know, 1173 01:17:25,115 --> 01:17:27,470 I feel much better about that, 1174 01:17:27,635 --> 01:17:31,514 because, you know, I just don't wanna follow certain trends 1175 01:17:31,675 --> 01:17:33,631 that I see other bands following. 1176 01:17:33,795 --> 01:17:36,104 We don't necessarily have to stick to our traditional way, 1177 01:17:36,275 --> 01:17:38,664 but we also don't have to follow that trend. 1178 01:17:48,276 --> 01:17:52,349 HAMMETT: I'm very comfortable with my role in the band, you know? 1179 01:17:52,516 --> 01:17:56,395 I've actually always been very, very comfortable with my role in the band. 1180 01:18:03,116 --> 01:18:04,629 I'm not a really egotistical person. 1181 01:18:04,796 --> 01:18:05,785 [CELL PHONE RINGING] 1182 01:18:05,956 --> 01:18:10,188 In fact, I've-- I spend a large amount of my time trying to, like, 1183 01:18:10,356 --> 01:18:14,474 downplay my ego and get it even smaller and smaller. 1184 01:18:14,636 --> 01:18:16,467 That's part of my beliefs. 1185 01:18:16,796 --> 01:18:23,474 I try to be an example of being egoless to the other guys. 1186 01:18:34,076 --> 01:18:37,387 Hi! This is Kirk from Metallica. 1187 01:18:37,557 --> 01:18:40,788 And if you want money, you'll listen to us. 1188 01:18:40,957 --> 01:18:43,596 And then some other guy's gonna give you cash. 1189 01:18:45,597 --> 01:18:47,872 Twenty years' worth of integrity, 1190 01:18:48,077 --> 01:18:50,466 and, you know, credibility and all that. 1191 01:18:50,637 --> 01:18:54,073 The next five minutes is gonna change all that. 1192 01:18:58,117 --> 01:19:01,314 "Hey, man, keep it locked right here, and--" What? 1193 01:19:01,477 --> 01:19:04,230 "We'll help you score $1,000." 1194 01:19:04,397 --> 01:19:09,551 This is James from Metallica. Survey says, you need cash. 1195 01:19:10,317 --> 01:19:14,276 Your money-shot to snatch a bunch of cash is coming soon. 1196 01:19:14,437 --> 01:19:18,316 In order to suck both nationwide radio chains off, 1197 01:19:18,477 --> 01:19:23,232 we are now standing here having to do this fucking stupid thing. 1198 01:19:23,397 --> 01:19:26,389 Up to 50 motherfucking grand, goddamn it! 1199 01:19:26,597 --> 01:19:28,474 Win a bunch of money. 1200 01:19:28,637 --> 01:19:30,389 And walk away. 1201 01:19:30,597 --> 01:19:32,475 This is stupid! 1202 01:19:32,638 --> 01:19:35,152 Sharpen that booger-picking finger 1203 01:19:35,318 --> 01:19:38,151 and be the 50th-- 1204 01:19:38,318 --> 01:19:42,994 Hey, it's Lars from Metallica. I'm about to stick 50 grand up your ass. 1205 01:19:43,838 --> 01:19:46,432 One dollar at a time. 1206 01:19:49,038 --> 01:19:52,872 I was telling Lars last night that was hard for me to see 1207 01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:55,711 - you guys squirm like you were. - Yeah. 1208 01:19:55,878 --> 01:19:58,631 Because I wanted to say anything, and it's not my place to say anything. 1209 01:19:59,158 --> 01:20:02,309 I can't imagine Bono or the Edge going on the radio, 1210 01:20:02,478 --> 01:20:07,677 saying what you guys are being asked to say. 1211 01:20:08,158 --> 01:20:11,036 - Dad, can I have one of those? - Go for it. 1212 01:20:11,238 --> 01:20:14,708 BURNSTEIN [OVER PHONE]: Should we catch up on all this radio stuff? 1213 01:20:14,878 --> 01:20:17,312 Okay. Now, they're the biggest chain in America. 1214 01:20:17,478 --> 01:20:20,515 You know, it's like 75, 80 stations or something. 1215 01:20:20,678 --> 01:20:26,469 And if you guys think it's crappy, as a radio thing, those guys think it's good. 1216 01:20:26,638 --> 01:20:29,028 I mean, that's their idea. We didn't come up with that. 1217 01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:30,718 So strategically-- 1218 01:20:30,879 --> 01:20:33,996 Why are we doing it, then? Just to make them happy? 1219 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,036 BURNSTEIN: Yes. That's exactly what they're doing. 1220 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:40,391 And they won't say, "Fuck you, you never do anything for us. 1221 01:20:40,999 --> 01:20:42,990 We're gonna fuck you on the next record. " 1222 01:20:43,559 --> 01:20:45,151 People would do that? 1223 01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:48,629 "Because you didn't give us something, we're gonna fuck you?" 1224 01:20:48,839 --> 01:20:51,990 BURNSTEIN: Yes, James. They would. 1225 01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,593 I'm not saying that they can always get away with it. 1226 01:20:54,759 --> 01:20:55,987 That's so funny. 1227 01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,798 - It wouldn't stop them from trying. - I'm glad it's your world. 1228 01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:02,754 I understand the "wash your back, you wash mine" thing. 1229 01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:06,190 "Wash my--" "I'll wash your back so you don't stab mine," 1230 01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:07,792 - Right. - is more like it. 1231 01:21:07,959 --> 01:21:09,517 Okay. Why don't we get off the phone, then. 1232 01:21:09,719 --> 01:21:11,152 REITER: Well, you know, we should have this conversation 1233 01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:12,308 some more next week. 1234 01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:13,834 - Later. BURNSTEIN: Okay. 1235 01:21:13,999 --> 01:21:15,227 REITER: See you. BURNSTEIN: Bye-bye. 1236 01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:19,438 That's insanity. "We're gonna hurt you because we didn't get something." 1237 01:21:19,599 --> 01:21:22,193 HAMMETT: I wash your back so you don't stab mine. 1238 01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:24,999 TOWLE: Well, that's a good line for a song. 1239 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,351 HETFIELD: I guess I just want something 1240 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,112 to rhyme with "mine" right now. 1241 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,590 ROCK: Wash your back so you won't... 1242 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,990 Wash your back so you won't stab mine. 1243 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,434 Step on a landmine. 1244 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,353 Keep you in my back pocket. 1245 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,273 ROCK: Blind leading the blind. 1246 01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:49,591 I'll rip out your fucking spine. 1247 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,031 HETFIELD: Okay. 1248 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,511 ULRICH: All right. 1249 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,632 [MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKER] 1250 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,954 [SINGS] Wash your back So you won't stab mine 1251 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,674 Get in bed with your own kind 1252 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,115 Wash your back So you won't stab mine 1253 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,955 Get in bed with your own kind 1254 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,268 - That was really good. HETFIELD: Are you pulling my mike? 1255 01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:15,032 - That was really good. HAMMETT: It was. 1256 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,232 - Really good. HETFIELD: So then, the part-- 1257 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,119 SINGS: Landmine 1258 01:22:20,721 --> 01:22:22,791 Landmine 1259 01:22:22,961 --> 01:22:25,395 No landmines 1260 01:22:25,601 --> 01:22:28,274 No landmines Rock lobster 1261 01:22:28,441 --> 01:22:33,435 Wash your back So you won't stab mine 1262 01:22:33,601 --> 01:22:38,880 Get in bed with your own kind 1263 01:22:44,041 --> 01:22:47,238 There's a witch at the foot of my bed. 1264 01:22:49,281 --> 01:22:51,556 ROCK: Did you--? Did you hear what Lars said? 1265 01:22:51,721 --> 01:22:55,714 He says, "Yeah, Kirk stopped reading, and I stopped moping." 1266 01:22:56,561 --> 01:22:58,392 - That's what you said. - That's not what I said. 1267 01:22:58,561 --> 01:23:00,279 ROCK: What'd you say? - I said, I stopped sulking. 1268 01:23:00,441 --> 01:23:02,318 ROCK: Oh, sulking. 1269 01:23:23,682 --> 01:23:24,717 ULRICH: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! 1270 01:23:24,882 --> 01:23:25,951 [SPLASHES] 1271 01:23:26,122 --> 01:23:27,441 Shit! 1272 01:23:30,602 --> 01:23:33,036 In the 11 months since he's parted company with Metallica, 1273 01:23:33,242 --> 01:23:37,030 ex-bassist Jason Newsted has been apparently more musically active 1274 01:23:37,242 --> 01:23:38,721 than his former band mates. 1275 01:23:38,882 --> 01:23:41,874 While Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich was pursuing Napster, 1276 01:23:42,042 --> 01:23:44,715 and singer James Hetfield battled alcoholism, 1277 01:23:44,882 --> 01:23:48,591 Newsted hooked up in the studio with legendary metal band Voivod. 1278 01:23:48,842 --> 01:23:52,118 Our own lann Robinson got all the answers on Newsted's new ventures 1279 01:23:52,322 --> 01:23:55,394 and the current state of his relationship with Metallica. 1280 01:23:55,562 --> 01:23:57,792 ULRICH: A good friend hinted 1281 01:23:57,962 --> 01:24:02,558 that Jason would really like to join the band again. 1282 01:24:05,242 --> 01:24:10,317 Man, I popped his little bubble for a second and-- I don't know, man. 1283 01:24:10,523 --> 01:24:11,717 ROCK: I'll be quite honest. 1284 01:24:11,923 --> 01:24:16,075 I think the heart and soul of Metallica, from this point on, 1285 01:24:16,243 --> 01:24:20,521 and has been for a while, since Cliff died, is the three of you guys. 1286 01:24:20,683 --> 01:24:25,837 I think you will never, ever, ever find a permanent bass player. 1287 01:24:26,003 --> 01:24:27,721 My opinion. 1288 01:24:32,163 --> 01:24:34,631 WOMAN: There was also tragedy in rock this week. 1289 01:24:34,803 --> 01:24:37,601 Metallica's bassist Cliff Burton was killed in a bus accident 1290 01:24:37,763 --> 01:24:41,153 while the band was on tour in Sweden. He was 24. 1291 01:24:41,323 --> 01:24:43,996 MAN: Metallica bassist Cliff Burton was buried on Tuesday 1292 01:24:44,163 --> 01:24:46,677 in the San Francisco area. Remaining members of the band... 1293 01:24:46,843 --> 01:24:49,152 Jason Newsted. He replaced Cliff Burton, 1294 01:24:49,323 --> 01:24:52,076 who was killed in an auto accident in September. 1295 01:24:52,243 --> 01:24:53,471 Jason told... 1296 01:24:53,643 --> 01:24:56,999 It pisses me off that Cliff left us 1297 01:24:57,163 --> 01:25:01,679 because we'd never have that initial four guys 1298 01:25:01,843 --> 01:25:03,913 just going on and on. 1299 01:25:04,123 --> 01:25:08,515 You know, when I talk about it, it's like that happened for a reason. 1300 01:25:08,684 --> 01:25:11,118 And we're-- We're dealing with that. 1301 01:25:11,284 --> 01:25:14,401 TOWLE: I gotta capitalize on what's being said right here. 1302 01:25:14,564 --> 01:25:18,682 The Cliff message that I get from him to you guys is, 1303 01:25:18,844 --> 01:25:21,438 that treasure the three of you. 1304 01:25:21,604 --> 01:25:25,313 Treasure every moment that the three of you have. 1305 01:25:25,524 --> 01:25:27,435 And the four of you have. You know, treasure-- 1306 01:25:27,604 --> 01:25:31,677 Treasure it because you never know. 1307 01:25:31,844 --> 01:25:35,120 And one of the sad things that happens when somebody dies 1308 01:25:35,284 --> 01:25:38,356 is that people have never taken the time along the way 1309 01:25:38,524 --> 01:25:42,676 to really embrace each other every day. You know? 1310 01:25:42,844 --> 01:25:46,154 It's a sin if you-- You know, if you let that go. 1311 01:25:47,084 --> 01:25:48,358 [SIGHS] 1312 01:25:57,364 --> 01:26:01,438 HETFIELD: Phil has been like an angel for me. 1313 01:26:01,765 --> 01:26:05,360 He's been sent to help me. 1314 01:26:05,525 --> 01:26:07,755 And, you know, I've got my own thoughts about all that, 1315 01:26:07,925 --> 01:26:10,519 you know, a father figure, the dad that never was 1316 01:26:10,685 --> 01:26:13,040 and all of that, that it makes me comfort-- 1317 01:26:13,205 --> 01:26:14,877 It comforts me. 1318 01:26:15,085 --> 01:26:20,113 But also, we don't want to have our hand held through life. 1319 01:26:20,765 --> 01:26:26,681 We'd like to be able to stand proud ourselves and move on. 1320 01:26:27,765 --> 01:26:30,074 There'll be a time for that. 1321 01:26:30,285 --> 01:26:33,755 And we just have to discuss when that is. 1322 01:26:38,445 --> 01:26:42,836 TOWLE: You know, there is purpose behind the way I do it. 1323 01:26:43,885 --> 01:26:46,194 I think it's very effective. 1324 01:26:46,365 --> 01:26:52,679 I have to decide whether I'm going to push it or not. 1325 01:26:59,126 --> 01:27:02,277 It sometimes is a distraction. 1326 01:27:10,286 --> 01:27:12,481 So, what part of our career are you gonna manage today? 1327 01:27:12,646 --> 01:27:16,525 I thought I'd do the whole thing, since you guys can't do anything. 1328 01:27:16,686 --> 01:27:18,039 If you guys could run something, 1329 01:27:18,206 --> 01:27:23,803 then it would be easy to step back. Because you can't, you know... 1330 01:27:23,966 --> 01:27:26,958 Is today the first day you're gonna play drums? 1331 01:27:27,126 --> 01:27:28,639 - I don't wanna get into that. - Okay. 1332 01:27:28,806 --> 01:27:30,478 No. I don't think I'm gonna do the drums. 1333 01:27:30,646 --> 01:27:32,125 - I think it's time-- - Maybe I should. 1334 01:27:32,286 --> 01:27:34,800 - Yeah. I think it's time. - Although, actually, I'm kind of... 1335 01:27:34,966 --> 01:27:38,641 Well, it's about the only thing you haven't done. 1336 01:27:38,806 --> 01:27:41,559 - I haven't sung. - Right. 1337 01:27:41,726 --> 01:27:45,036 We got to a point where we sat down and told Phil 1338 01:27:45,206 --> 01:27:51,042 that we wanted to scale Phil back to every other week. 1339 01:27:51,206 --> 01:27:53,960 And we were getting ready to implement that 1340 01:27:54,127 --> 01:27:56,721 four weeks from when the decision was made. 1341 01:27:56,887 --> 01:27:59,879 And two weeks after the decision was made, 1342 01:28:00,087 --> 01:28:04,763 we had to sit Phil down and say that we were not ready to do that. 1343 01:28:04,927 --> 01:28:07,646 Because we got really... 1344 01:28:08,967 --> 01:28:12,403 I don't know. Scared, I guess. 1345 01:28:12,567 --> 01:28:14,558 There were some things that were going on at the time 1346 01:28:14,727 --> 01:28:16,479 that, really, Phil helped with a lot. 1347 01:28:16,647 --> 01:28:19,559 ANNOUNCER: Live from the news leader in Northern California. 1348 01:28:19,727 --> 01:28:21,957 NewsCenter 4. Night Beat. 1349 01:28:22,127 --> 01:28:26,996 The Metallica v. Napster battlefield moved to San Mateo today. 1350 01:28:27,167 --> 01:28:30,921 Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich delivered a list of screen names 1351 01:28:31,087 --> 01:28:34,045 of people who have downloaded the band's music online. 1352 01:28:34,327 --> 01:28:36,397 REPORTER 1: Metallica is suing Napster, 1353 01:28:36,567 --> 01:28:38,205 a website that provides software 1354 01:28:38,367 --> 01:28:41,518 which allows people to download music on the Internet without paying. 1355 01:28:41,687 --> 01:28:44,121 Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich testified before a Senate committee 1356 01:28:44,287 --> 01:28:48,600 earlier this month that Napster has "hijacked our music without asking." 1357 01:28:48,768 --> 01:28:51,805 REPORTER 2: The band said that over 350,000 people 1358 01:28:51,968 --> 01:28:53,287 are downloading its music for free. 1359 01:28:53,448 --> 01:28:55,598 REPORTER 3: A group of former Metallica fans staged a protest 1360 01:28:55,768 --> 01:28:56,996 at the courthouse. 1361 01:28:57,208 --> 01:28:59,119 I don't want anything to do with Metallica anymore. 1362 01:28:59,288 --> 01:29:02,200 I'm gonna be trashing their CDs. I took all my CDs, 1363 01:29:02,368 --> 01:29:04,245 and I'm gonna be destroying them. 1364 01:29:04,688 --> 01:29:06,485 Are you proud of what you achieved with Napster? 1365 01:29:06,648 --> 01:29:09,367 REPORTER 4: Are you proud in hindsight of what you pulled off? 1366 01:29:09,528 --> 01:29:11,678 Being the most hated man in rock 'n' roll? 1367 01:29:11,848 --> 01:29:13,839 Yeah, that was-- That was my goal. 1368 01:29:14,008 --> 01:29:15,805 I got an idea. I'm kind of bored this summer. 1369 01:29:15,968 --> 01:29:17,367 Everything's going a little too well. 1370 01:29:17,528 --> 01:29:19,359 Let's see, I wanna turn myself 1371 01:29:19,528 --> 01:29:22,884 into the most hated fucking asshole in rock 'n' roll, yeah. 1372 01:29:23,968 --> 01:29:27,438 Like, good afternoon, my name is, you know, like, Lars Ulrich, from Metallica. 1373 01:29:27,608 --> 01:29:29,599 I worked for years to get where I am today. 1374 01:29:29,768 --> 01:29:31,281 Me and my buddy James Hetfield here 1375 01:29:31,448 --> 01:29:34,804 have shed blood, sweat and beer to get where we are today. 1376 01:29:34,968 --> 01:29:36,686 Beer, good. 1377 01:29:36,848 --> 01:29:38,679 Who do you think you are? I mean, just, you know, 1378 01:29:38,848 --> 01:29:41,521 because you, like, made us rich, you think you can get free stuff? 1379 01:29:41,688 --> 01:29:43,281 Songs that we spent upwards of, you know, 1380 01:29:43,449 --> 01:29:46,282 like 24 to 48 hours writing and recording. 1381 01:29:46,449 --> 01:29:48,405 Our team of lawyers and researchers have your names, 1382 01:29:48,569 --> 01:29:52,528 and you Napster users, we'll see you in jail getting gang-raped. 1383 01:29:53,009 --> 01:29:57,400 CARTOON HETFIELD: Money, good! Napster, bad! 1384 01:29:59,529 --> 01:30:01,042 ULRICH: Some minutes I have all this strength, 1385 01:30:01,209 --> 01:30:04,804 and I can stand there and just go, "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. 1386 01:30:04,969 --> 01:30:06,607 I'm bulletproof, it doesn't matter. 1387 01:30:06,809 --> 01:30:09,039 I got Hetfield and Hammett, and we're a team, and fuck you." 1388 01:30:09,209 --> 01:30:10,801 You know what I mean? Five minutes later, 1389 01:30:10,969 --> 01:30:13,608 it means nothing, and I just become really vulnerable. 1390 01:30:18,249 --> 01:30:20,160 You know, we never sat there and thought 1391 01:30:20,329 --> 01:30:23,002 about where Napster was gonna end up. 1392 01:30:23,409 --> 01:30:25,923 We never sat there and talked about what shots we were gonna take. 1393 01:30:26,089 --> 01:30:30,640 We just sat there and thought about, this was something we had to do. 1394 01:30:30,969 --> 01:30:33,403 ROCK: So wait a sec. 1395 01:30:34,409 --> 01:30:36,400 That was awesome! 1396 01:30:36,569 --> 01:30:39,880 It's like I had to stay on the course that I was on 1397 01:30:40,050 --> 01:30:43,929 and stay to my convictions, but it was eating away at me inside. 1398 01:30:44,810 --> 01:30:47,404 And then maybe it could go lyrically to: 1399 01:30:47,570 --> 01:30:52,928 "What difference did l/we actually make?" It's a great question. Great. 1400 01:30:53,090 --> 01:30:56,127 And if that could-- It's like if that question could get thrown out there, 1401 01:30:56,330 --> 01:31:00,528 but remain unanswered, I think that's really strong. 1402 01:31:00,690 --> 01:31:04,399 [SINGS] All the shots I take 1403 01:31:04,570 --> 01:31:08,722 What difference did I make? 1404 01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:12,923 All the shots I take 1405 01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:17,402 I spit back at you 1406 01:31:25,010 --> 01:31:26,682 ROCK: "All the shots I spit back at you." 1407 01:31:26,850 --> 01:31:28,249 That's awesome, dude. Fucking... 1408 01:31:28,410 --> 01:31:30,287 ROCK: Fuck me. - And the "what difference did I make" 1409 01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:33,921 - fit right in. - Really awesome. Right on. 1410 01:31:54,171 --> 01:31:55,843 ULRICH: These two kicks, are they the same as--? 1411 01:31:56,011 --> 01:31:57,410 GILLIES: It's different. ULRICH: Okay. 1412 01:31:57,611 --> 01:32:01,968 Go to the master. What really gets my dick hard is starting on: 1413 01:32:02,131 --> 01:32:03,564 - Boom, boom. GILLIES: I can do that. 1414 01:32:03,891 --> 01:32:05,847 [IMITATING DRUMS] 1415 01:32:06,011 --> 01:32:08,286 You know, there. Then these are awesome. 1416 01:32:08,491 --> 01:32:10,083 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1417 01:32:14,171 --> 01:32:15,524 CRAZY CABBIE: Lars, what I wanna know is, 1418 01:32:15,691 --> 01:32:18,763 do the four of you just go in there and just jam? 1419 01:32:18,931 --> 01:32:22,844 You're hearing excerpts of three-hour jams. 1420 01:32:23,011 --> 01:32:25,923 You're hearing-- Look at it as a funnel. 1421 01:32:26,091 --> 01:32:29,562 You're hearing the very part of the bottom of the funnel. 1422 01:32:29,732 --> 01:32:31,085 - Right. ULRICH: You can almost equate 1423 01:32:31,252 --> 01:32:33,720 - what we're doing now to arranging. - Yeah. 1424 01:32:33,892 --> 01:32:35,405 CRAZY CABBIE: You're like Pollock, the painter. 1425 01:32:35,612 --> 01:32:40,402 He is. He's Pollock, the funnel-arranger guy. 1426 01:32:40,612 --> 01:32:42,364 CRAZY CABBIE: It's gonna sound fucking amazing at the stadium 1427 01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:44,921 with 100,000 people fucking raising the evil horns 1428 01:32:45,092 --> 01:32:48,402 up to the sky and saying, "Metallica, baby." 1429 01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:49,806 [LAUGHS] 1430 01:32:49,972 --> 01:32:53,248 Oh, can we fast-forward to that right now? 1431 01:32:53,812 --> 01:32:56,485 [CHEERING] 1432 01:33:14,812 --> 01:33:16,006 BURNSTEIN: I think what I'd like to do is, 1433 01:33:16,172 --> 01:33:19,369 I'd like to talk about this touring thing that has come up. 1434 01:33:19,532 --> 01:33:22,968 We're very cognizant of the fact 1435 01:33:23,132 --> 01:33:25,169 that things have changed for you guys. 1436 01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:28,291 And they've changed for many, many reasons. 1437 01:33:28,453 --> 01:33:31,684 Why can't we figure out what works best for everybody 1438 01:33:31,853 --> 01:33:37,849 in their personal lives, plus what works best as a business? 1439 01:33:38,013 --> 01:33:40,447 What if you just do a stadium tour, 1440 01:33:40,613 --> 01:33:42,843 where you play Friday, Saturday and Sunday, 1441 01:33:43,013 --> 01:33:46,130 and then you go home the rest of the week? 1442 01:33:48,973 --> 01:33:50,691 I just wanna put out that, 1443 01:33:50,853 --> 01:33:54,607 you know, it might be a kind of uncomfortable vibe here 1444 01:33:54,813 --> 01:33:58,442 because people might not know how I'm feeling about touring, 1445 01:33:58,613 --> 01:34:02,891 and I don't really know either. You know? Until I get there. 1446 01:34:03,053 --> 01:34:06,682 And, you know, I wanna tour. 1447 01:34:07,053 --> 01:34:08,805 I don't wanna fall off the wagon, you know. 1448 01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:11,163 I don't wanna go out there-- I don't know what it's like. 1449 01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:16,009 Doing things for the first time again, as I think I've said before, it's a little scary. 1450 01:34:16,453 --> 01:34:17,568 [CHEERING] 1451 01:34:19,774 --> 01:34:22,004 I don't know about you, but it's, like, summertime. 1452 01:34:22,174 --> 01:34:26,372 And to me, it's fucking beer-drinking weather, yeah? 1453 01:34:27,814 --> 01:34:30,692 Yeah. Well, I'm gonna take time right now and fucking have myself one, 1454 01:34:30,854 --> 01:34:33,163 and I just wanna say cheers to all you guys 1455 01:34:33,334 --> 01:34:37,805 and fucking thanks for coming down and getting nutty with us. Cheers. 1456 01:34:43,214 --> 01:34:45,330 [HETFIELD SINGING SCALES] 1457 01:34:55,414 --> 01:34:57,609 I blew my voice out on the "Black Album," 1458 01:34:57,774 --> 01:35:00,971 doing "So What," the cover song. 1459 01:35:01,134 --> 01:35:04,206 And we had a bunch of Metallica songs to do after that. 1460 01:35:04,374 --> 01:35:07,844 And I went to this coach. I didn't-- 1461 01:35:08,014 --> 01:35:09,766 I didn't wanna go. I was scared. 1462 01:35:09,934 --> 01:35:13,085 I thought he was gonna make me sing operatic. 1463 01:35:13,254 --> 01:35:16,088 But I went there, and we just did warm-up stuff like this, 1464 01:35:16,255 --> 01:35:20,373 and this is the tape. And I've had this same tape for-- Since then. 1465 01:35:28,775 --> 01:35:29,764 REPORTER: Was there a turning point? 1466 01:35:29,935 --> 01:35:34,690 Yeah. I think when we had accumulated what we thought to be, 1467 01:35:34,855 --> 01:35:38,609 you know, a great kind of... 1468 01:35:38,775 --> 01:35:41,084 I don't know, cross section of material, 1469 01:35:41,255 --> 01:35:42,813 we took stock, so to speak. 1470 01:35:43,015 --> 01:35:45,529 The only songs that are gonna make it to the album 1471 01:35:45,695 --> 01:35:48,289 are the songs that all four of us vote on. 1472 01:35:48,415 --> 01:35:54,445 And out of 30-plus songs, only four songs got all four votes. 1473 01:35:56,615 --> 01:35:59,846 [OVER SPEAKERS] Sweet Amber 1474 01:36:00,015 --> 01:36:01,243 Sweet Amber 1475 01:36:12,456 --> 01:36:15,095 Sweet Amber 1476 01:36:16,816 --> 01:36:20,013 How sweet are you? 1477 01:36:21,376 --> 01:36:24,129 How sweet does it get? 1478 01:36:24,896 --> 01:36:26,887 How sweet are you? 1479 01:36:28,816 --> 01:36:31,205 How sweet does it get? 1480 01:36:32,016 --> 01:36:33,495 TOWLE: Yeah, right. BURNSTEIN: Wow. 1481 01:36:33,656 --> 01:36:37,046 I mean, there's some explosive playing. The shit just takes off. 1482 01:36:37,536 --> 01:36:41,131 It's like you guys have spent all this time 1483 01:36:41,296 --> 01:36:44,129 to come back to find yourselves. 1484 01:36:44,296 --> 01:36:48,175 - That's what it sounds like to me. ULRICH: All right, 17 to go. 1485 01:36:48,336 --> 01:36:51,009 ROCK: Yeah, how are you doing? Do you wanna hear more? 1486 01:36:51,176 --> 01:36:53,053 - Wanna hear more? BURNSTEIN: I'm just getting started. 1487 01:36:54,056 --> 01:36:56,206 [OVER SPEAKER] Squeeze all within my hands 1488 01:36:58,616 --> 01:37:02,131 Choke within my hands 1489 01:37:02,296 --> 01:37:07,052 I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you 1490 01:37:07,217 --> 01:37:10,368 I'm madly in anger with you 1491 01:37:11,937 --> 01:37:13,893 Time, time, times like this 1492 01:37:14,057 --> 01:37:15,968 - Boy - You got what you're coming to 1493 01:37:16,137 --> 01:37:18,810 - So - Destruct the power within all 1494 01:37:18,977 --> 01:37:23,289 Across your spine So that gets broken too 1495 01:37:23,457 --> 01:37:27,769 Temptation, fill no hole 1496 01:37:30,217 --> 01:37:32,048 No 1497 01:37:32,217 --> 01:37:33,570 No, no 1498 01:37:33,737 --> 01:37:36,729 Temptation 1499 01:37:36,897 --> 01:37:38,808 You know, the first four songs you've played me, 1500 01:37:38,977 --> 01:37:40,808 all pretty much knocked me out. 1501 01:37:40,977 --> 01:37:46,734 Okay? But if you've got it going, you want it to hammer all the way through. 1502 01:37:46,897 --> 01:37:50,731 You want people to be able to really listen and say: 1503 01:37:50,897 --> 01:37:53,616 "Jesus Christ, there's no letting up from these guys. 1504 01:37:53,817 --> 01:37:55,489 There's no fucking letup." 1505 01:37:55,657 --> 01:37:58,296 Fuck ballads. You know? 1506 01:37:58,457 --> 01:38:03,054 There definitely is some Presidio stuff that I felt, maybe-- 1507 01:38:03,218 --> 01:38:07,496 You gotta analyse it. Maybe you're 1508 01:38:07,658 --> 01:38:11,731 watering it down in some way. That's all. 1509 01:38:13,378 --> 01:38:16,051 - It's your call. HETFIELD: Yeah. 1510 01:38:16,578 --> 01:38:18,216 BURNSTEIN: I know that... 1511 01:38:20,658 --> 01:38:23,252 HETFIELD: "Temptation," I remember writing that thing. 1512 01:38:23,658 --> 01:38:27,287 It came out. It flowed, totally, instantly. 1513 01:38:27,458 --> 01:38:31,451 "Temptation" kind of sums up all the lyrics 1514 01:38:31,618 --> 01:38:36,897 that are in this new kind of project. 1515 01:38:37,058 --> 01:38:40,255 So-- And that-- And it's cool because that was done 1516 01:38:40,458 --> 01:38:43,973 long before recovery and all that, so... 1517 01:38:44,138 --> 01:38:46,572 I mean, I can tell that you're singing your heart out. 1518 01:38:46,738 --> 01:38:51,016 You're definitely wearing your heart on your sleeve on that song. 1519 01:38:51,178 --> 01:38:53,646 ULRICH: To me, it's more like a jam. 1520 01:38:53,858 --> 01:38:56,326 Is there a song in there? 1521 01:38:56,498 --> 01:38:58,854 Potentially. 1522 01:38:59,379 --> 01:39:02,496 You know, there's almost nothing there that can't be turned 1523 01:39:02,659 --> 01:39:04,695 into something better than it is or something 1524 01:39:04,859 --> 01:39:07,737 that could probably get pretty fucking close 1525 01:39:07,899 --> 01:39:10,208 to being something on a Metallica record. 1526 01:39:10,499 --> 01:39:14,731 You know, but then it just goes away from what the purpose-- 1527 01:39:14,899 --> 01:39:16,571 At least, what I see the purpose being today, 1528 01:39:16,739 --> 01:39:18,172 which is show up with what you-- 1529 01:39:18,339 --> 01:39:21,854 You know, what are your A-pluses? You know? 1530 01:39:23,339 --> 01:39:25,728 Well, when I hear Lars talk about "We can whip anything 1531 01:39:25,899 --> 01:39:28,697 into decent shape," I agree. 1532 01:39:28,859 --> 01:39:32,613 And we did that on Load and ReLoad. 1533 01:39:32,819 --> 01:39:34,298 And this is us trying to choose 1534 01:39:34,459 --> 01:39:36,529 before we take it to those extremes, you know? 1535 01:39:36,699 --> 01:39:40,055 ROCK: Exactly. - That makes sense. 1536 01:39:40,259 --> 01:39:41,578 HETFIELD: That was a pretty major thing 1537 01:39:41,739 --> 01:39:43,252 that I think Lars and I clicked on together, 1538 01:39:43,459 --> 01:39:46,735 that, wow, I'd heard him, and he heard me. 1539 01:39:46,899 --> 01:39:49,049 Oh, it's like, "Oh, okay." 1540 01:39:49,259 --> 01:39:51,568 It's like it takes the cutting edge off of it 1541 01:39:51,739 --> 01:39:55,733 or the personal attack off of it, you know? 1542 01:39:56,420 --> 01:39:58,411 Things are a lot less dramatic than they used to be 1543 01:39:58,580 --> 01:40:02,459 within the chemistry of the four of us. 1544 01:40:02,740 --> 01:40:08,133 Less head games, abuse of power and soap-opera bullshit. 1545 01:40:08,580 --> 01:40:11,048 But can we just do one thing? 1546 01:40:11,220 --> 01:40:14,690 For lack of a better word, when it comes in with the drums, 1547 01:40:14,860 --> 01:40:16,418 I just want you to scream, "Fuck," 1548 01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:18,889 as hard as you can fucking scream. 1549 01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:20,334 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1550 01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:24,891 [SCREAMS] Fuck 1551 01:40:29,660 --> 01:40:31,855 ROCK: Okay. It should be slower. 1552 01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:33,738 It should be more like: 1553 01:40:37,060 --> 01:40:39,335 I want four of them. Do it again. 1554 01:40:53,941 --> 01:40:55,932 WllG: Lars is selling paintings 1555 01:40:56,101 --> 01:41:01,255 because he's ready to move on to the next ten years 1556 01:41:01,421 --> 01:41:04,015 or next decade or next phase of his life. 1557 01:41:04,181 --> 01:41:06,934 And a lot of what these paintings and a lot of what this house represents 1558 01:41:07,141 --> 01:41:14,855 is the last ten years versus a husband and father of two. 1559 01:41:14,981 --> 01:41:19,418 He's getting rid of some pretty major and important pieces 1560 01:41:19,581 --> 01:41:22,254 in the majority of his collection. 1561 01:41:23,861 --> 01:41:26,694 He's wiping the slate clean. 1562 01:41:29,341 --> 01:41:31,696 ULRICH: Midnight, New York City. 1563 01:41:31,861 --> 01:41:34,534 One last look at the paintings. Oh, well. 1564 01:41:34,701 --> 01:41:37,818 - It's a celebration. - This is a celebration. 1565 01:41:37,981 --> 01:41:40,575 - Of how far you've come. - It's a celebration. 1566 01:41:40,701 --> 01:41:42,851 With Phil Towle. This is a celebration. 1567 01:41:43,021 --> 01:41:45,252 Some paintings have visited us for a while. 1568 01:41:45,422 --> 01:41:48,539 And now we wanna share them with other people. 1569 01:41:48,702 --> 01:41:50,101 - Okay? - Right, yeah. That's it. 1570 01:41:50,262 --> 01:41:52,856 - It's a choice. - Okay, cool. 1571 01:41:56,462 --> 01:42:00,421 I never looked at it as an investment, but I always looked it as-- 1572 01:42:00,702 --> 01:42:02,818 Versus some of the other guys that may be, like, taking 1573 01:42:02,982 --> 01:42:04,973 a big pile of money and parking it in the bank, 1574 01:42:05,142 --> 01:42:07,815 I would always, like, take a big pile of money and park it on my wall. 1575 01:42:09,222 --> 01:42:10,450 Wow. 1576 01:42:11,502 --> 01:42:16,132 I can just feel some of the adulation that other people have thrown 1577 01:42:16,302 --> 01:42:18,418 at these paintings, and that makes me proud. 1578 01:42:18,582 --> 01:42:20,413 I've never been this close to it. 1579 01:42:20,582 --> 01:42:25,258 These are great paintings, whether they sell for a dollar or for $100 million. 1580 01:42:25,422 --> 01:42:28,061 The only thing that matters is what pleasure 1581 01:42:28,262 --> 01:42:32,255 and what feeling you get out of that moment you have with that painting. 1582 01:42:32,462 --> 01:42:34,578 And it's never been about dollars and cents. 1583 01:42:34,742 --> 01:42:37,734 It's always been about something greater than that. 1584 01:42:37,902 --> 01:42:41,657 But, fuck, they do look awesome. I mean, fuck. 1585 01:42:46,263 --> 01:42:47,582 It's been a good time. 1586 01:42:47,743 --> 01:42:51,213 - And it will be a good time. - To the future. 1587 01:42:51,823 --> 01:42:54,053 ULRICH: I feel better about this than I thought I would, actually. 1588 01:42:54,263 --> 01:42:55,855 - It's weird, I don't know why. - Yeah. 1589 01:42:56,023 --> 01:42:57,012 [GLASS SHATTERING] 1590 01:42:57,183 --> 01:42:58,252 Shit. 1591 01:43:29,663 --> 01:43:31,142 AUCTIONEER: $300,000. 1592 01:43:31,303 --> 01:43:32,816 $300,000 on the telephone. 1593 01:43:33,023 --> 01:43:37,256 It's two of you in the room, selling right, fair warning at $300,000. 1594 01:43:37,584 --> 01:43:39,222 Jean Paul, $300,000. 1595 01:43:39,384 --> 01:43:40,817 [SIGHS] 1596 01:43:40,984 --> 01:43:45,500 Twenty-one is the moderna on the reverse, 1597 01:43:45,664 --> 01:43:49,259 the Jean-Michel Basquiat showing on the screen there on my right. 1598 01:43:49,464 --> 01:43:51,341 - All right, here we go. - Be strong, my friend. 1599 01:43:51,504 --> 01:43:53,256 AUCTIONEER: $900,000. At $1.9 million. 1600 01:43:53,424 --> 01:43:55,415 1.9, 2 million. 1601 01:43:55,584 --> 01:43:58,815 AUCTIONEER: $1,100,000. $300,000. 1602 01:43:58,984 --> 01:44:02,693 ULRICH: Can we get more cocktails? AUCTIONEER: $220,000-- 1603 01:44:02,984 --> 01:44:05,896 - 580. ULRICH: 600. 4.5. 1604 01:44:06,064 --> 01:44:07,895 ULRICH: 720. AUCTIONEER: $3 million. 1605 01:44:08,064 --> 01:44:11,693 - Come on, 4. AUCTIONEER: For you, sir, $260,000. 1606 01:44:12,064 --> 01:44:13,782 $680,000. 1607 01:44:13,944 --> 01:44:17,698 And selling at $5 million. Brett, yours at 5 million. 1608 01:44:17,864 --> 01:44:20,139 SKYLAR: All right. ULRICH: Hi. 1609 01:44:23,384 --> 01:44:25,056 It went well. 1610 01:44:25,224 --> 01:44:29,775 I got myself drunk to numb the pain. 1611 01:44:29,985 --> 01:44:31,134 Um... 1612 01:44:31,745 --> 01:44:34,862 But it went well. I'm happy. 1613 01:44:47,745 --> 01:44:49,622 TOWLE: Like, let's talk about the zone for a minute. 1614 01:44:49,785 --> 01:44:54,381 Because there is a way to help a person-- Persons get in a zone. 1615 01:44:54,585 --> 01:44:57,975 To-- I mean, you could consider seriously doing some meditative, 1616 01:44:58,185 --> 01:45:02,656 or apply the meditative principles to music, all right? 1617 01:45:03,225 --> 01:45:04,738 I don't want this to sound too way-out, 1618 01:45:04,905 --> 01:45:07,578 but if you do that, the four of you are out there, 1619 01:45:07,745 --> 01:45:12,216 and you do it anyway, unconsciously, you do a musical meditation 1620 01:45:12,385 --> 01:45:15,502 by starting to jam with each other. 1621 01:45:15,665 --> 01:45:17,815 ROCK: I just think, no matter how you look at it, 1622 01:45:17,985 --> 01:45:21,057 I've been making records a very long time, and it really comes down 1623 01:45:21,225 --> 01:45:23,056 to how much work you put in and how much... 1624 01:45:23,225 --> 01:45:27,742 You know, it's just tough. Sometimes it's just-- It's just tough work. 1625 01:45:27,906 --> 01:45:31,899 And I like to stretch the frontiers of what people accept, okay? 1626 01:45:32,066 --> 01:45:34,216 And I understand about that. And l-- 1627 01:45:34,386 --> 01:45:37,503 I don't want, for my mind, to settle... 1628 01:45:52,546 --> 01:45:57,017 "The zone. Admission is believing." 1629 01:45:57,226 --> 01:46:01,014 I guess I'm not gonna be playing today, then, huh? 1630 01:46:01,186 --> 01:46:03,461 Well, I'm gonna go out and make phone calls. 1631 01:46:03,626 --> 01:46:05,344 So everybody's... 1632 01:46:08,906 --> 01:46:11,340 You know, we've had a fabulous few weeks 1633 01:46:11,506 --> 01:46:14,896 with a lot of great productivity, a lot of really good stuff going on. 1634 01:46:15,346 --> 01:46:18,338 The more we feel good about ourselves and each other 1635 01:46:18,546 --> 01:46:20,777 and the higher we ascend, the more challenging 1636 01:46:20,947 --> 01:46:23,256 it will be to our psyches. 1637 01:46:23,907 --> 01:46:26,216 You know, I understand it. I embrace it and all that stuff, 1638 01:46:26,387 --> 01:46:29,060 but sometimes it just bugs me. 1639 01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:33,379 I think the-- That thing was kind of bugging me yesterday. 1640 01:46:33,547 --> 01:46:35,742 All of them around the studio, it was just kind of, like-- 1641 01:46:36,387 --> 01:46:39,538 That way of thinking, it just doesn't work for me all the time. 1642 01:46:39,707 --> 01:46:41,265 And I was a little pissed off at it, 1643 01:46:41,427 --> 01:46:44,225 because right now in my life it's not really working for me. 1644 01:46:44,627 --> 01:46:46,345 TOWLE: I'm glad to know that's how you feel. 1645 01:46:46,507 --> 01:46:47,940 I agree with that wholeheartedly. 1646 01:46:48,107 --> 01:46:51,782 And if you feel that way and wish to share that more directly, 1647 01:46:51,947 --> 01:46:52,982 I'd appreciate that too. 1648 01:46:53,147 --> 01:46:54,819 ROCK: Rather than tearing the signs down? 1649 01:46:54,987 --> 01:46:57,057 - Yeah. - We pay him $40,000 a month 1650 01:46:57,227 --> 01:47:01,505 to be pretty much available at our beck and call. 1651 01:47:01,827 --> 01:47:03,818 So when this record's done, 1652 01:47:03,987 --> 01:47:12,941 do we want to collectively end the $40,000-a-month, full-on thing? 1653 01:47:13,147 --> 01:47:16,105 I'm afraid he's under the impression that he's, like, in the band, you know? 1654 01:47:16,268 --> 01:47:17,701 HAMMETT: Yeah. 1655 01:47:17,868 --> 01:47:21,577 HETFIELD: And I see him coming on the road, maybe, for a week. 1656 01:47:21,748 --> 01:47:25,536 But after that I don't-- I don't see him 1657 01:47:27,588 --> 01:47:30,421 holding our hand any further than that. 1658 01:47:32,348 --> 01:47:34,259 So is that something we wanna present to him, then? 1659 01:47:34,428 --> 01:47:36,180 HAMMETT: Yeah. I think that-- HETFIELD: Okay. 1660 01:47:36,348 --> 01:47:39,181 HAMMETT: I think it's something-- Yeah, I think it's something 1661 01:47:39,348 --> 01:47:42,181 we need to do for our own well-being. 1662 01:47:42,348 --> 01:47:46,341 HETFIELD: Yeah, because I'm feeling uncomfortable. 1663 01:47:54,708 --> 01:47:58,587 ROCK: Yeah, hello? Hello, hello. 1664 01:47:58,748 --> 01:47:59,976 Are they on the phone? 1665 01:48:00,148 --> 01:48:01,706 ROCK: They're on the phone, and they need you. 1666 01:48:01,868 --> 01:48:03,540 Oh, okay. 1667 01:48:03,708 --> 01:48:06,142 ULRICH: James Hetfield is in the room. HETFIELD: Hey there. 1668 01:48:06,348 --> 01:48:08,623 BURNSTEIN: Hey, how you doing? HETFIELD: Pretty good. 1669 01:48:08,788 --> 01:48:11,097 BURNSTEIN: I'll let Marc do the talking. 1670 01:48:11,268 --> 01:48:13,464 He's the one who's been talking to MTV. 1671 01:48:13,629 --> 01:48:18,100 REITER: Okay, this afternoon, the official offer came in for ICON. 1672 01:48:18,269 --> 01:48:21,102 - Assuming you wanna do it. ULRICH: Let's do it. 1673 01:48:21,309 --> 01:48:23,903 Cool, man. Yeah, I'm jazzed about it. 1674 01:48:24,109 --> 01:48:26,259 REITER: The only thing that you guys are required to do 1675 01:48:26,429 --> 01:48:28,704 is show up for rehearsal and then show up 1676 01:48:28,869 --> 01:48:31,542 for the show on the 3rd, and at the end of the show 1677 01:48:31,709 --> 01:48:34,940 you guys take the stage and perform a little bit. 1678 01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:36,667 HAMMETT: So, what's Jason's role in all this? 1679 01:48:36,829 --> 01:48:38,023 HETFIELD: What? Who? 1680 01:48:38,189 --> 01:48:41,261 REITER: Cliff? I mean, I don't think Jason has any role. 1681 01:48:41,429 --> 01:48:44,865 BURNSTEIN: He lost his icon status when he left Metallica. 1682 01:48:45,069 --> 01:48:46,263 [LAUGHING] 1683 01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:49,018 REITER: Nice one, Cliff. BURNSTEIN: Thank you. 1684 01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:52,545 REITER: I think MTV would like the fact that this would most likely be 1685 01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:56,179 the introductory performance of Metallica with a new bass player, 1686 01:48:56,389 --> 01:48:57,822 whether it's the new member or whoever. 1687 01:48:58,029 --> 01:49:00,543 When is it supposed to be? May what? 1688 01:49:00,709 --> 01:49:03,018 May 3rd. Saturday, May 3rd. 1689 01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:06,022 See, that means you'd have to hire someone by the 2nd. 1690 01:49:06,189 --> 01:49:08,306 ULRICH: Okay. - I think it can happen. 1691 01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:11,143 REITER: You'd be required to be in Los Angeles for all of two days... 1692 01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:13,824 ULRICH: Because we didn't get a new bass player, I think a lot of people 1693 01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:16,868 thought maybe that we were having trouble finding one. 1694 01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:20,989 We never started looking for a new bass player until two months ago. 1695 01:49:21,150 --> 01:49:26,463 We worked on ourselves, identified what part can we work on 1696 01:49:26,630 --> 01:49:30,305 so when someone else steps in, it's clean. 1697 01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:32,700 They're not stepping in our shit, you know? 1698 01:49:36,190 --> 01:49:38,385 HETFIELD: All right, thinking about bass players, finally? 1699 01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:41,144 So we're gonna need a fourth member. 1700 01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:45,140 You know, we know you're a great bass player. It's the vibe. 1701 01:49:45,310 --> 01:49:46,345 We need to make sure... 1702 01:49:46,510 --> 01:49:50,219 TOWLE: Jason kind of triggered this whole thing a couple of years ago. 1703 01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:53,826 And I can't believe it's been two years. And now we've gone through some... 1704 01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:55,343 ULRICH: We realized that we kind of wanted somebody 1705 01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:57,307 who was, like, our age. 1706 01:49:57,470 --> 01:50:00,746 Somebody who had been around the block a couple times. 1707 01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:03,903 We've grown a lot, man. These three guys 1708 01:50:04,071 --> 01:50:05,743 and this band. 1709 01:50:05,911 --> 01:50:10,462 And last time, when we did this 14, 15 years ago, 1710 01:50:10,631 --> 01:50:12,110 16 years ago, I guess it was, 1711 01:50:12,271 --> 01:50:15,547 we literally sat down and started auditioning bass players, 1712 01:50:15,711 --> 01:50:18,145 you know, the day after the funeral for Cliff. 1713 01:50:18,311 --> 01:50:22,623 So now it's 16 years later, different circumstances. 1714 01:50:23,471 --> 01:50:26,463 HARMON: When Jason left, he took his basses with him. 1715 01:50:27,551 --> 01:50:30,065 Do you want a four or five? 1716 01:50:30,231 --> 01:50:32,904 Whatever. What five-strings do you have? 1717 01:50:34,631 --> 01:50:36,064 This one's a five-string. 1718 01:50:39,071 --> 01:50:41,539 SINGS: Keep searching 1719 01:50:41,911 --> 01:50:44,948 Keep on searching 1720 01:50:45,111 --> 01:50:47,784 This search goes on 1721 01:50:47,951 --> 01:50:50,784 This search goes on 1722 01:50:50,951 --> 01:50:52,942 HARMON: The band-- These guys collectively probably own, 1723 01:50:53,111 --> 01:50:56,103 like, five to 600 guitars, so they're not all here. 1724 01:50:56,511 --> 01:50:57,660 Wow. 1725 01:50:57,831 --> 01:50:59,060 [SINGS] On and on 1726 01:50:59,232 --> 01:51:02,463 Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock Frantic 1727 01:51:02,632 --> 01:51:05,465 Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock Frantic 1728 01:51:05,632 --> 01:51:08,385 Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock Frantic 1729 01:51:08,592 --> 01:51:11,231 Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock 1730 01:51:14,032 --> 01:51:15,943 You went into another voice there, dude. 1731 01:51:16,392 --> 01:51:19,065 Which one of me are you talking to? 1732 01:51:19,912 --> 01:51:22,631 ULRICH: Think that we should just spend the next two and a half hours 1733 01:51:22,792 --> 01:51:24,020 with this guy. 1734 01:51:25,152 --> 01:51:26,790 Don't you? 1735 01:51:26,992 --> 01:51:30,462 I had a vision of us jamming with him the last hour. 1736 01:51:30,632 --> 01:51:33,465 I guess I just feel this is just kind of, like, weird to keep, 1737 01:51:33,632 --> 01:51:37,784 like, just doing our own thing. It just feels not welcoming. 1738 01:51:37,992 --> 01:51:41,985 HETFIELD: This morning I heard him say he was pretty comfortable. 1739 01:51:42,152 --> 01:51:46,384 It's not about what he says. It's about what I feel. 1740 01:51:46,592 --> 01:51:48,708 All right? Are we cool, James? 1741 01:51:49,392 --> 01:51:52,987 Yeah. I guess the only other thing I'd like to say is, 1742 01:51:53,152 --> 01:51:56,623 you know, when we leave this up to just how we're feeling, 1743 01:51:56,793 --> 01:52:00,024 a lot of it depends on how you're feeling. 1744 01:52:00,193 --> 01:52:02,184 You know, when you say those things. 1745 01:52:02,393 --> 01:52:04,509 Not that I wanna break up what you guys are discussing, 1746 01:52:04,673 --> 01:52:06,868 if you wanna go deeper, you know? 1747 01:52:07,033 --> 01:52:11,549 But I think what might be really good is to treat this with respect, 1748 01:52:11,713 --> 01:52:13,544 go out and do this... 1749 01:52:23,473 --> 01:52:25,543 Metallica stuff? 1750 01:52:25,713 --> 01:52:28,830 - I could try "Battery." ULRICH: "Battery"? 1751 01:52:28,993 --> 01:52:30,506 You can play that fast with your fingers? 1752 01:52:30,673 --> 01:52:31,662 Yeah! 1753 01:52:31,833 --> 01:52:33,983 [SINGS] Battery 1754 01:52:58,994 --> 01:53:01,986 That's a fucking pretty mighty bass sound you got going there. 1755 01:53:02,234 --> 01:53:03,633 HAMMETT: Yeah, it's fucking-- - I don't know. 1756 01:53:03,794 --> 01:53:05,705 It's the Mesa and the Hiwatt. 1757 01:53:05,874 --> 01:53:08,991 Is there anything else you know as well as that? 1758 01:53:55,675 --> 01:53:57,666 Cliff. It was just like you saw Cliff, 1759 01:53:57,835 --> 01:54:01,828 and me and James went, "He's in our band, there's no question." 1760 01:54:01,995 --> 01:54:04,145 He hit it out of the park. 1761 01:54:06,315 --> 01:54:08,590 And that's where it sort of gets interesting. 1762 01:54:08,755 --> 01:54:10,666 Because if Cliff Burton showed up today, 1763 01:54:10,835 --> 01:54:13,144 maybe he wouldn't be the guy either. 1764 01:54:15,075 --> 01:54:17,748 I mean, the three guys that I like all have unique features 1765 01:54:17,915 --> 01:54:20,304 that I would love to Frankenstein, you know? 1766 01:54:20,475 --> 01:54:22,466 - Yeah! Definitely. - Some kind of monster? 1767 01:54:22,675 --> 01:54:24,745 That would be great. 1768 01:54:27,195 --> 01:54:31,313 I don't think you should settle. I think you should get the right guy. 1769 01:54:31,915 --> 01:54:34,145 If you don't hit it out of the park with one of these guys, 1770 01:54:34,315 --> 01:54:36,909 then you're gonna end up four years down the road 1771 01:54:37,075 --> 01:54:40,307 in the same situation you did with Jason. 1772 01:54:41,356 --> 01:54:45,144 A four count, then... And into the solo. 1773 01:54:45,356 --> 01:54:47,711 Just follow. 1774 01:55:12,716 --> 01:55:15,867 He was the first guy of any of them 1775 01:55:16,036 --> 01:55:19,665 - that didn't look like he was struggling. - That's what I told Bob. 1776 01:55:19,876 --> 01:55:21,912 Do you know what I mean about, like, it--? 1777 01:55:22,076 --> 01:55:23,509 You know, with some of the other guys, 1778 01:55:23,676 --> 01:55:26,429 it was sort of 10 percent over their capabilities, 1779 01:55:26,596 --> 01:55:29,190 or something like that. You don't feel that with this guy at all. 1780 01:55:29,596 --> 01:55:31,507 It's like the last three songs, 1781 01:55:31,676 --> 01:55:35,225 like "Sanitarium," "Nothing Else Matters" and what was...? 1782 01:55:35,436 --> 01:55:38,190 - "Sad But True." - "Sad But True," they were flawless. 1783 01:55:38,357 --> 01:55:40,587 I looked over at him during "Whiplash," 1784 01:55:40,757 --> 01:55:43,351 and he was just right in the pocket and in there. 1785 01:55:43,517 --> 01:55:47,908 And then afterwards, when he played it alone with his finger, 1786 01:55:48,077 --> 01:55:50,910 it hadn't been played that way since Cliff. 1787 01:55:52,197 --> 01:55:54,028 It's just, like: 1788 01:55:55,957 --> 01:55:58,790 - Yeah. - Yeah, his finger's a pick, you know? 1789 01:55:58,957 --> 01:56:01,551 - Yeah. - Yeah, it's three picks. 1790 01:56:02,957 --> 01:56:06,506 All right, are we gonna sack Bob now? 1791 01:56:36,878 --> 01:56:38,436 Well, the second time you came back, 1792 01:56:38,638 --> 01:56:40,629 I mean, that was, for me, when I noticed 1793 01:56:40,798 --> 01:56:42,834 that you make us play better, man. 1794 01:56:43,038 --> 01:56:46,110 You make the band sound so much better. 1795 01:56:46,278 --> 01:56:48,633 - So solid. - How do you feel about that, man? 1796 01:56:48,798 --> 01:56:50,595 Well, I feel awesome, man. 1797 01:56:50,758 --> 01:56:54,717 - You're the chosen one. - You looked coolest. 1798 01:56:54,958 --> 01:56:58,633 And we want you to be a real member of this band, not just a hired hand. 1799 01:56:58,798 --> 01:57:02,711 And we'd like to offer you-- Basically, to give-- 1800 01:57:02,878 --> 01:57:04,470 To show you how serious we are about this, 1801 01:57:04,638 --> 01:57:09,792 offer you a million dollars to join our band right now. 1802 01:57:09,958 --> 01:57:11,357 - And-- - Wait, okay. 1803 01:57:11,518 --> 01:57:14,635 And as a kind of a good-faith thing about how serious we are-- 1804 01:57:14,798 --> 01:57:17,073 It's an advance. It's an advance on some percentage 1805 01:57:17,238 --> 01:57:18,637 you're gonna be making with the band. 1806 01:57:18,798 --> 01:57:23,189 Here's money up front to get you kicked in and inspired and: 1807 01:57:23,358 --> 01:57:27,796 "This is a reality. This is my future. This is what life can hold for me 1808 01:57:27,959 --> 01:57:29,836 with my new family." 1809 01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:34,714 I can't really talk right now. 1810 01:57:34,959 --> 01:57:37,348 Invisible kid Never see what he did 1811 01:57:37,519 --> 01:57:40,909 Got stuck where he hid Falling through the grid 1812 01:57:41,079 --> 01:57:43,673 Invisible kid Got a place of his own 1813 01:57:43,839 --> 01:57:47,149 Where he'll never be known Inward he's grown 1814 01:57:47,319 --> 01:57:49,787 Invisible kid Never see what he did 1815 01:57:49,959 --> 01:57:52,996 Got stuck where he hid Falling through the grid 1816 01:57:53,159 --> 01:57:55,593 Invisible kid Got a place of his own 1817 01:57:55,759 --> 01:57:59,957 Where he'll never be known Inward he's grown 1818 01:58:01,719 --> 01:58:03,994 There's things that I miss, and I'm sad it couldn't work out, 1819 01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:07,276 and things, you know, like that. But there's way, way, way, way more times 1820 01:58:07,439 --> 01:58:13,355 and way more days and even hours that go by and I'm reminded, "Dude, 1821 01:58:13,519 --> 01:58:16,158 all right. You did the right thing." 1822 01:58:16,359 --> 01:58:18,873 You know, "You did the right thing for yourself." 1823 01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:29,318 I don't know if it's the right time to say this, 1824 01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:32,153 but, I don't know, I've been thinking about our talk. 1825 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:38,674 About, you know, you and us and our future and all of that stuff, and... 1826 01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,829 And, you know, when I heard that you guys were moving here 1827 01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,958 and all of that, that brought up a lot of fear around: 1828 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:50,154 "Wow, what is Phil's perception of, you know, his, you know, longevity 1829 01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,113 with Metallica?" You know? That scared me a little bit. 1830 01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,350 Well, I appreciate that. I was-- 1831 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,757 If it scared you, and that's part of the issue going forward, 1832 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,953 then let me say we haven't decided we're moving here. 1833 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:06,272 I've tried to make it clear that we're selling-- 1834 01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,874 I think we've told people we're selling our house in Kansas City, 1835 01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,157 but that doesn't mean we're moving here, okay? 1836 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,113 And we won't likely move to San Francisco 1837 01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,877 if there's not a future out there with Metallica, 1838 01:59:20,041 --> 01:59:22,635 because, you know, that's my-- 1839 01:59:22,761 --> 01:59:25,355 I wanna make sure that the bass player's intact. 1840 01:59:25,561 --> 01:59:27,358 I wanna be sure that the tour's on. 1841 01:59:27,561 --> 01:59:31,713 And I also, as I said, have performance-coach visions 1842 01:59:31,881 --> 01:59:36,477 for each of you and for the band. And l-- To me, the work isn't over. 1843 01:59:37,961 --> 01:59:41,237 I'd like us to honour what we had, 1844 01:59:41,961 --> 01:59:43,360 and if you wanna be away from-- 1845 01:59:43,561 --> 01:59:45,995 You know, on your own or something for the couple of months 1846 01:59:46,161 --> 01:59:48,356 until we come back in June, that's okay. I just kind of-- 1847 01:59:48,561 --> 01:59:50,756 I don't know. I guess I have a problem 1848 01:59:50,961 --> 01:59:53,429 with the, "Let's see how it works out. Let's see how it happens," 1849 01:59:53,601 --> 01:59:57,037 and then, "No, let's honour what happened, you know, six months ago." 1850 01:59:57,201 --> 02:00:00,876 You know? That's kind of strange to me, you know? 1851 02:00:01,161 --> 02:00:04,392 Because I think that you use those things 1852 02:00:04,841 --> 02:00:07,230 when they're convenient at times, you know? 1853 02:00:07,401 --> 02:00:11,713 Personal stuff or business things. And I don't know. I don't know. 1854 02:00:11,881 --> 02:00:16,160 They're-- The boundaries are-- I don't-- Becoming more clear to me. 1855 02:00:18,402 --> 02:00:24,272 There's that element of-- Of trust that just kind of floats with you with me. 1856 02:00:24,482 --> 02:00:29,556 And l-- And that-- I'm really sorry about that. That-- You know. 1857 02:00:29,722 --> 02:00:32,839 I've been swimming uphill on that one for a long time with you, 1858 02:00:33,002 --> 02:00:34,720 and I'd like for us to be able to resolve it. 1859 02:00:34,882 --> 02:00:36,156 But maybe we can't. 1860 02:00:36,322 --> 02:00:39,678 I've gotta tell you that l-- You know, if the client, 1861 02:00:39,842 --> 02:00:42,993 either James or us, says: 1862 02:00:43,162 --> 02:00:48,873 You know, then I really think that needs to be respected without, 1863 02:00:50,082 --> 02:00:52,676 you know, just, you know, the old turn-the-knife thing in there. 1864 02:00:52,842 --> 02:00:54,912 You know, it's just, you know, if the client says, 1865 02:00:55,082 --> 02:00:57,835 you know, timeout for a while, timeout. 1866 02:00:58,002 --> 02:01:01,756 That is great, although we-- Our process, what we normally do-- 1867 02:01:01,922 --> 02:01:05,756 Then it should be put on the table, but left on the table, 1868 02:01:05,922 --> 02:01:10,280 and should be able to walk away without what you're saying right now, 1869 02:01:10,443 --> 02:01:12,593 which is now there are trust issues and stuff. 1870 02:01:12,883 --> 02:01:15,602 I don't know how to separate out-- 1871 02:01:15,803 --> 02:01:18,271 In its simplest form, I think it's a conflict of interest 1872 02:01:18,443 --> 02:01:21,276 that you tell him that he needs you around more. 1873 02:01:21,443 --> 02:01:22,876 - If he has-- - No, no, no, no, no. 1874 02:01:23,043 --> 02:01:24,112 I'm not saying that. 1875 02:01:24,283 --> 02:01:26,114 I see that as a conflict of interest. 1876 02:01:26,283 --> 02:01:30,117 Look, I am saying you guys have made a decision. 1877 02:01:30,403 --> 02:01:33,873 It's okay for me to say I'm not happy with that decision. 1878 02:01:34,563 --> 02:01:37,999 The premise is, you guys don't need me. 1879 02:01:38,163 --> 02:01:40,597 And I'm good with that. 1880 02:01:41,043 --> 02:01:45,275 Anyway, you go... It's-- 1881 02:01:45,443 --> 02:01:47,832 - Anyway, let's jam. - Great, I'll see you guys. 1882 02:01:48,003 --> 02:01:51,962 I'm taking off. I'll see you next week. Have a good one. 1883 02:01:52,123 --> 02:01:53,602 Thanks, man. 1884 02:01:53,763 --> 02:01:57,039 Who's in charge of my head today? 1885 02:01:58,763 --> 02:02:02,199 Dancing devils in angel's way 1886 02:02:03,443 --> 02:02:07,801 It's my time now It's my time now 1887 02:02:08,004 --> 02:02:10,313 It's my time now It's my time 1888 02:02:12,884 --> 02:02:16,593 Look out, motherfuckers Here I come 1889 02:02:17,164 --> 02:02:22,397 I'm gonna make my head my home 1890 02:02:22,564 --> 02:02:27,160 The sons of bitches Try to take my head 1891 02:02:27,324 --> 02:02:28,552 Tried to make me Someone else instead 1892 02:02:28,724 --> 02:02:31,033 You've been in the band for five minutes, and you're an icon? 1893 02:02:31,204 --> 02:02:34,276 It's such an honour, and, you know, I'm stoked. So... 1894 02:02:41,804 --> 02:02:43,999 Your voting interest will equal your percentage interest 1895 02:02:44,164 --> 02:02:45,802 in a new account, while each of our voting interests 1896 02:02:46,004 --> 02:02:47,073 will be one-third of the difference 1897 02:02:47,244 --> 02:02:48,916 between 100 percent and your percentage. 1898 02:02:49,644 --> 02:02:53,478 This is about as lawyer as you get. But it's really-- 1899 02:02:53,644 --> 02:02:55,760 - Sort of laying out-- - Yeah, lays out the deal. 1900 02:02:55,924 --> 02:03:00,396 Okay, so, for instance, in the first period you have 5 percent, okay? 1901 02:03:00,605 --> 02:03:03,483 So when we do a vote, you get 32 votes, you get 32 votes, 1902 02:03:03,645 --> 02:03:07,035 you get 32 votes, you get five votes, in any vote, okay? 1903 02:03:07,205 --> 02:03:10,481 - But this doesn't mean anything. - I think it's crap. I mean, l-- 1904 02:03:10,645 --> 02:03:12,920 I think in the spirit of what we're trying to do, 1905 02:03:13,085 --> 02:03:16,077 we better do 25, and then Q Prime's the tiebreaker. That's-- 1906 02:03:16,245 --> 02:03:19,203 That works, that's fine. Cool. 1907 02:03:38,805 --> 02:03:41,638 Now, here it also says, "You will not be required to fund any losses 1908 02:03:41,805 --> 02:03:44,080 in the new Metallica account, but we will be entitled 1909 02:03:44,245 --> 02:03:45,997 to recover any losses out of future profits." 1910 02:03:46,205 --> 02:03:49,641 For instance, buying the documentary, it's not your problem. 1911 02:03:49,805 --> 02:03:52,763 If the documentary loses money and the company never makes 1912 02:03:52,925 --> 02:03:55,998 any more money again, it's these three guys' problem. 1913 02:03:56,326 --> 02:03:59,523 Exactly. 1914 02:03:59,686 --> 02:04:01,199 "What'd you do with your money?" 1915 02:04:01,366 --> 02:04:03,322 "I went and bought a car, I bought my mom a house, 1916 02:04:03,486 --> 02:04:05,875 and we went and bought a documentary." 1917 02:04:06,046 --> 02:04:08,116 It was just-- You gotta keep in the spirit of this whole thing. 1918 02:04:22,126 --> 02:04:26,677 By the end of this week, we're gonna have an album title. 1919 02:04:26,886 --> 02:04:29,764 Because in three days, we won't have to agonize about this anymore. 1920 02:04:30,246 --> 02:04:35,081 Well, the thing that stood out to me was St. Anger. It's strong. 1921 02:04:35,246 --> 02:04:39,000 I mean, there's-- Iconic strong, you know? 1922 02:04:39,166 --> 02:04:41,361 HAMMETT: I like that title quite a bit. - It's so easy 1923 02:04:41,566 --> 02:04:43,761 just to say, "June 17th is St. Anger's Day." 1924 02:04:43,926 --> 02:04:45,837 - Yeah, well, it's true. That's cool. - No, I mean-- 1925 02:04:46,006 --> 02:04:48,998 I think Frantic is a better album title. 1926 02:04:50,166 --> 02:04:51,486 - I think that's-- - I don't know. 1927 02:04:51,647 --> 02:04:54,525 - It's more about the record. - But St. Anger's a good-- 1928 02:04:54,687 --> 02:04:57,759 It's an original statement. St. Anger, St. Anger. 1929 02:04:57,967 --> 02:04:59,366 Well, this is an angry record, 1930 02:04:59,527 --> 02:05:02,360 but you read the lyrics, it's angry in a healthy way. 1931 02:05:02,527 --> 02:05:04,040 - It's also frantic. - Getting stuff out. 1932 02:05:04,207 --> 02:05:08,519 Frantic is more like, "They're trying things that they don't-- 1933 02:05:08,687 --> 02:05:10,200 They don't-- They're not exactly sure of. 1934 02:05:10,367 --> 02:05:11,720 They don't know what they're doing. 1935 02:05:11,887 --> 02:05:15,163 They're trying to climb back up the mountain again. 1936 02:05:15,367 --> 02:05:17,278 They're not sure of themselves." 1937 02:05:17,527 --> 02:05:19,677 I mean, hello, that's a fair thing. 1938 02:05:19,847 --> 02:05:23,522 I mean, if you think that Frantic has a negative connotation to it, 1939 02:05:23,687 --> 02:05:25,359 I never thought of it like that. 1940 02:05:25,527 --> 02:05:28,246 If it's St. Anger, they're gonna form an image of: 1941 02:05:28,447 --> 02:05:30,756 "These guys are angry. I know it. 1942 02:05:30,927 --> 02:05:33,760 They're angry about Napster. They're angry about the new stuff 1943 02:05:33,927 --> 02:05:36,600 that's coming in. They're angry about their lives. 1944 02:05:36,767 --> 02:05:38,439 I'm angry too. I get it." 1945 02:05:43,607 --> 02:05:47,487 I think you guys know the idea about shooting a video in San Quentin. 1946 02:05:49,448 --> 02:05:50,676 So let me get this straight. 1947 02:05:50,848 --> 02:05:52,964 You're gonna go to a maximum-security prison, 1948 02:05:53,128 --> 02:05:56,120 and Metallica's gonna play "St. Anger" really loud. 1949 02:05:56,288 --> 02:05:57,846 - Yeah! - Yeah! 1950 02:05:59,928 --> 02:06:04,524 St. Anger 'round my neck 1951 02:06:04,688 --> 02:06:09,967 St. Anger 'round my neck 1952 02:06:10,128 --> 02:06:15,043 He never gets respect 1953 02:06:15,208 --> 02:06:19,838 St. Anger 'round my neck 1954 02:06:20,208 --> 02:06:22,278 I've been asked to come out here and talk a little bit 1955 02:06:22,448 --> 02:06:24,643 about what this song means to us. 1956 02:06:24,808 --> 02:06:30,519 Anger's an emotion that I've struggled with for pretty much all my life. 1957 02:06:30,768 --> 02:06:35,523 - St. Anger 'round my neck - You flush it out, you flush it out 1958 02:06:35,728 --> 02:06:41,440 He never gets respect 1959 02:06:43,529 --> 02:06:45,360 There's a lot of misspent anger 1960 02:06:45,529 --> 02:06:48,760 that has come out sideways for a lot of people. 1961 02:06:49,449 --> 02:06:51,360 Including yourselves. 1962 02:06:51,529 --> 02:06:53,963 And if I hadn't had music in my life, 1963 02:06:54,129 --> 02:06:58,725 it's quite possible I could be in here, or not even in here, be dead. 1964 02:06:58,889 --> 02:07:04,327 And I'd much rather be alive. 1965 02:07:04,729 --> 02:07:06,720 Madly in anger with you 1966 02:07:06,889 --> 02:07:09,357 I'm madly in anger with you 1967 02:07:09,529 --> 02:07:11,838 I'm madly in anger with you 1968 02:07:12,369 --> 02:07:14,758 I'm madly in anger with you 1969 02:07:16,129 --> 02:07:18,768 I'm pretty nervous up here. I don't really know what to say. 1970 02:07:18,929 --> 02:07:21,124 I'm just trying to share some of what's going on for me. 1971 02:07:21,329 --> 02:07:24,958 I'm not here to sell nothing, that's for damn sure. 1972 02:07:30,209 --> 02:07:32,803 Everyone is born good. 1973 02:07:33,129 --> 02:07:36,759 Everyone's got the same size soul, and we're here to connect with that. 1974 02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:38,966 So we're very proud to be in your house 1975 02:07:39,130 --> 02:07:41,724 and play some music for you. Thanks. 1976 02:08:02,930 --> 02:08:05,080 More than any other record, I don't know if you feel that, 1977 02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:07,605 but for me, this is like product 1978 02:08:07,850 --> 02:08:11,047 of what we're just doing, hanging out. You know what I mean? 1979 02:08:11,210 --> 02:08:12,723 - It's almost like a diary. - Yeah. 1980 02:08:12,890 --> 02:08:17,042 It's like, here's our memories on CD, you know? 1981 02:08:17,210 --> 02:08:20,998 It's like we've proven that you can make aggressive music 1982 02:08:21,210 --> 02:08:23,166 - without negative energy. - Yeah. 1983 02:08:23,330 --> 02:08:27,482 Okay, and I don't think anybody ever thought that that would be possible. 1984 02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:29,885 You know? You can make something that's aggressive 1985 02:08:30,050 --> 02:08:33,805 and fucked up, okay? With positive energy 1986 02:08:34,011 --> 02:08:37,401 - between the people creating it. - Yeah. 1987 02:08:38,051 --> 02:08:42,010 It hit me, you know? This project's coming to an end, and I don't know, 1988 02:08:42,171 --> 02:08:44,002 I think I'm kind of bummed about that. 1989 02:08:44,171 --> 02:08:49,199 I'm kind of, just, kind of liking the schedule that happens, 1990 02:08:49,411 --> 02:08:54,405 or the safeness in that. Coming here, being able to talk. 1991 02:08:54,611 --> 02:09:00,607 Creating, you know? And... I don't know. 1992 02:09:01,091 --> 02:09:07,087 I've been kind of coming down from this for about the past month. 1993 02:09:07,811 --> 02:09:11,486 I mean, getting up at 5 in the morning, and just pacing my apartment. 1994 02:09:11,651 --> 02:09:15,485 Just not really knowing what the hell I'm doing either. 1995 02:09:15,651 --> 02:09:17,801 So I'm with you. 1996 02:09:20,011 --> 02:09:23,083 Like, I don't wanna let you go home. 1997 02:09:23,251 --> 02:09:24,650 I don't know. 1998 02:09:24,811 --> 02:09:29,488 I really appreciate that. That's really nice of you to say. 1999 02:09:30,652 --> 02:09:33,086 I don't know, I can feel myself kind of protecting myself 2000 02:09:33,252 --> 02:09:39,327 with some depression or something, wanting to just kind of isolate. 2001 02:09:39,492 --> 02:09:40,925 And I don't wanna do that. 2002 02:09:41,092 --> 02:09:42,810 I wanna feel the sadness of-- 2003 02:09:43,012 --> 02:09:46,004 I mean, I didn't feel depressed, I felt sad. 2004 02:09:46,172 --> 02:09:50,006 And that's when I knew it was something different than just me... 2005 02:09:50,172 --> 02:09:52,003 My old stuff, you know? 2006 02:09:52,332 --> 02:09:55,768 I mean, there is some of that, but... 2007 02:09:56,652 --> 02:10:01,407 Sadness and depression, I guess I don't really know the difference. 2008 02:10:02,772 --> 02:10:06,481 And, Phil, all the stuff that you've brought here to, like... 2009 02:10:06,652 --> 02:10:09,724 You've set out all the tools, like, you know? 2010 02:10:10,172 --> 02:10:14,211 And you allowed us to build what we've built, you know? 2011 02:10:17,652 --> 02:10:20,007 With guidance. 2012 02:10:20,612 --> 02:10:24,322 I really appreciate your bringing this forward. 2013 02:10:24,493 --> 02:10:26,802 And there is a difference between sadness and depression. 2014 02:10:27,013 --> 02:10:28,765 Clearly. 2015 02:10:33,773 --> 02:10:37,925 This is the hugest chapter in my life. 2016 02:10:44,933 --> 02:10:47,208 [CHEERING] 2017 02:13:52,976 --> 02:13:55,251 If I could have my wasted days back 2018 02:13:55,456 --> 02:13:58,254 Would I use them to get Back on track? 2019 02:14:01,416 --> 02:14:03,327 Stand back. Stand back. Keep away from the car. 2020 02:14:03,616 --> 02:14:06,415 - I love you. - I love you too. 2021 02:14:07,497 --> 02:14:09,931 Can I find it inside To deal with what I shouldn't know? 2022 02:14:10,097 --> 02:14:16,969 Could I have my wasted days back Would I use them to get back on track? 2023 02:14:18,457 --> 02:14:21,210 You live it or lie it You live it or lie it 2024 02:14:21,497 --> 02:14:24,330 You live it or lie it You live it or lie it 2025 02:14:24,497 --> 02:14:27,807 My lifestyle determines my deathstyle 2026 02:14:28,737 --> 02:14:31,570 Determines my deathstyle 2027 02:14:31,817 --> 02:14:37,767 Keep searching Keep on searching 2028 02:14:37,977 --> 02:14:42,767 This search goes on On and on 2029 02:14:43,777 --> 02:14:48,976 Keep searching, keep on searching 2030 02:14:49,177 --> 02:14:53,295 This search goes on On and on 2031 02:14:53,457 --> 02:14:56,051 Frantic Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock 2032 02:14:56,177 --> 02:14:58,975 Frantic Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock 2033 02:14:59,137 --> 02:15:01,971 Frantic Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock 2034 02:15:02,138 --> 02:15:06,177 Frantic Tick tick tick tick tick tick tock 2035 02:15:13,778 --> 02:15:15,370 Go! 2036 02:15:28,138 --> 02:15:29,287 Thank you so much 2037 02:15:29,458 --> 02:15:33,371 for supporting Metallica through all the rough times and all the great times. 2038 02:15:33,858 --> 02:15:36,372 Metallica loves you! 2039 02:15:38,138 --> 02:15:39,457 Yeah! 2040 02:15:52,378 --> 02:15:54,972 Yeah! 2041 02:15:55,178 --> 02:15:57,135 Fucking a! 2042 02:16:01,459 --> 02:16:04,895 Metallica! Metallica! Metallica!