1 00:01:42,195 --> 00:01:44,716 Man, you know, who says you need to buy a guitar? 2 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,192 It's like a piece of sculpture. 3 00:02:42,193 --> 00:02:44,893 Wonderful span of wood varnish. 4 00:02:44,894 --> 00:02:49,359 The whole aroma of it. Like a woman, you know? 5 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,228 You can caress it like a woman. 6 00:02:54,225 --> 00:02:57,726 Every element, the wood, the finish, 7 00:02:57,727 --> 00:03:01,596 and all the different aspects are there in the sound. 8 00:03:03,594 --> 00:03:08,629 Electric conveys, like, amplification, energy. 9 00:03:11,626 --> 00:03:13,756 It's all part and parcel of who I am, 10 00:03:13,757 --> 00:03:17,272 is playing the electric guitar and bonding with it. 11 00:03:29,259 --> 00:03:31,024 It's gonna be very interesting. 12 00:03:31,025 --> 00:03:32,625 It's gonna be very interesting 13 00:03:32,626 --> 00:03:38,158 because both are really, really strong character guitarists. 14 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,692 Both White Stripes and Zeppelin 15 00:03:40,693 --> 00:03:44,193 were able to do something that was their own, was unique, 16 00:03:44,194 --> 00:03:46,692 and had never been done before. 17 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:50,024 When the three of us get together, what's gonna happen? 18 00:03:50,025 --> 00:03:51,553 Probably a fistfight. 19 00:04:17,526 --> 00:04:19,489 There's a lot of soul in this guitar. 20 00:04:19,490 --> 00:04:21,928 When Jack plays it, it just goes wild. 21 00:04:24,925 --> 00:04:28,092 This is Edge's main... His main enchilada. 22 00:04:28,093 --> 00:04:30,491 This is the brain of the system. 23 00:04:30,492 --> 00:04:34,856 It's going to be interesting to see him layering his effects. 24 00:04:34,857 --> 00:04:37,261 He's known to be a sort of sonic architect. 25 00:04:41,257 --> 00:04:42,717 I plan to trick both of these guys. 26 00:04:42,923 --> 00:04:44,858 That's basically what I'm gonna do. 27 00:04:44,859 --> 00:04:48,402 Trick them into teaching me all their tricks. 28 00:04:58,392 --> 00:05:00,522 We're going there to have a chat. 29 00:05:00,523 --> 00:05:03,223 But it just so happens that the instruments 30 00:05:03,224 --> 00:05:05,016 are sort of there as well, so who knows? 31 00:05:29,991 --> 00:05:31,322 What's this, Edge? 32 00:05:31,323 --> 00:05:33,723 It's a little... It's a form of yoga. 33 00:05:33,724 --> 00:05:35,021 It's, uh... 34 00:05:35,022 --> 00:05:36,924 It actually was devised in Wales. 35 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:40,459 It's called Daboke. 36 00:05:42,457 --> 00:05:45,722 Are you... What's the BlackBerry to do with it? 37 00:05:45,723 --> 00:05:49,221 It's just a little adaptation I've made 38 00:05:49,222 --> 00:05:53,156 just to make better use of time. 39 00:05:53,157 --> 00:05:55,489 Does Sting do this? 40 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:58,167 He doesn't do Daboke, he does some other kind of yoga. 41 00:06:09,156 --> 00:06:12,855 I'm very interested in what hardware can do 42 00:06:12,856 --> 00:06:15,689 to an electric guitar sound. 43 00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:18,655 I love effects units. 44 00:06:18,656 --> 00:06:21,455 They've always pushed music forward. 45 00:06:21,456 --> 00:06:22,923 When he pushes a button... 46 00:06:22,924 --> 00:06:27,155 Let's say that button addresses that unit, you know? 47 00:06:27,156 --> 00:06:29,521 This button addresses that unit. 48 00:06:29,522 --> 00:06:32,222 And it's very rarely 49 00:06:32,223 --> 00:06:37,888 that he will use the same sound ever again in 20, 23 songs. 50 00:06:54,722 --> 00:06:58,921 The guitars are set per song 51 00:06:58,922 --> 00:07:01,320 with their output levels. 52 00:07:01,321 --> 00:07:05,923 They're dedicated for that song and that guitar level is... 53 00:07:06,922 --> 00:07:09,720 He sets his effects to receive 54 00:07:09,721 --> 00:07:12,389 that guitar level in a particular way. 55 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:23,386 I drive everyone crazy. 56 00:07:23,387 --> 00:07:27,054 I drive myself totally crazy, trying to get the sound 57 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:31,621 that I can hear in my head to come out of the speakers. 58 00:07:31,622 --> 00:07:33,654 It's my voice, that is my voice, 59 00:07:33,655 --> 00:07:35,489 what's coming out of the speaker. 60 00:07:42,721 --> 00:07:43,994 That'd be wicked. 61 00:07:50,987 --> 00:07:53,621 Take out the TC. 62 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,689 Technology is a big destroyer of emotion and truth. 63 00:08:31,686 --> 00:08:34,151 Opportunity doesn't do anything for creativity. 64 00:08:34,152 --> 00:08:36,984 Yeah, it makes it easier, and you can get home sooner, 65 00:08:36,985 --> 00:08:39,454 but it doesn't make you a more creative person. 66 00:08:39,455 --> 00:08:42,153 ♪ And I don't worry 67 00:08:42,154 --> 00:08:48,551 ♪ Because I'm sitting on top of the world! 68 00:08:48,552 --> 00:08:52,385 That's the disease you have to fight in any creative field. 69 00:08:52,386 --> 00:08:53,305 Ease of use. 70 00:08:56,888 --> 00:09:02,386 ♪ Worked all the summer Worked all the fall 71 00:09:02,387 --> 00:09:07,454 ♪ And I had to take Christmas in my overalls 72 00:09:08,453 --> 00:09:13,217 ♪ 'Cause now she's gone And I don't worry 73 00:09:13,218 --> 00:09:14,386 All right, sing it. 74 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:19,019 ♪ Because I'm sitting on top of the world! 75 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:20,752 Yeah, that's it. 76 00:09:20,753 --> 00:09:22,050 By the time I'm getting into teenage years, 77 00:09:22,051 --> 00:09:23,750 like, late '80s and things like that, 78 00:09:23,751 --> 00:09:25,684 I don't remember that many rock 'n' roll bands 79 00:09:25,685 --> 00:09:27,620 being around that were that popular. 80 00:09:28,619 --> 00:09:30,218 Things were changing so much in music. 81 00:09:30,219 --> 00:09:32,917 The technology was taking over so much. 82 00:09:32,918 --> 00:09:34,583 Technology was heavily distracting everybody. 83 00:09:34,584 --> 00:09:36,716 I mean, people started spending weeks 84 00:09:36,717 --> 00:09:38,052 trying to get the perfect snare drum 85 00:09:38,053 --> 00:09:40,017 and gated reverb sound. 86 00:09:40,018 --> 00:09:44,417 ♪ Because I'm sittin' on top of the world! ♪ 87 00:09:44,418 --> 00:09:46,851 That's right. That's right. 88 00:09:46,852 --> 00:09:50,123 So processed, it wasn't real at all anymore. 89 00:09:54,118 --> 00:09:56,463 Just go up top. 90 00:10:08,451 --> 00:10:10,086 If you really want to get girls to pay attention 91 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:12,019 kick that chair out like... 92 00:10:13,018 --> 00:10:14,619 ♪ Yeah, she's gone 93 00:10:15,618 --> 00:10:18,416 ♪ And I don't worry 94 00:10:18,417 --> 00:10:20,016 ♪ Because I'm sittin' 95 00:10:20,017 --> 00:10:22,841 ♪ On top of the world ♪ 96 00:10:46,817 --> 00:10:50,882 Because of the amplification and the tactile quality of it, 97 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:52,452 you can hear the very, sort of, 98 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:54,921 characteristics of each player. 99 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:02,081 People have just tried to stretch the limits, come up with new techniques. 100 00:11:02,082 --> 00:11:05,651 There's always something new that other people are bringing to the table 101 00:11:05,652 --> 00:11:09,142 that is to be reckoned with very seriously. 102 00:11:33,118 --> 00:11:34,853 Dynamics, 103 00:11:36,851 --> 00:11:38,551 light and shade, 104 00:11:40,549 --> 00:11:43,019 whisper to the thunder, 105 00:11:46,015 --> 00:11:50,119 sort of invite you in, sort of intoxicating. 106 00:12:26,083 --> 00:12:27,747 Well, the thing that fascinates me about it, 107 00:12:27,748 --> 00:12:30,466 and always has about the six strings, no one has ever approached... 108 00:12:31,415 --> 00:12:34,348 They all play in a different way and, 109 00:12:34,349 --> 00:12:35,988 you know, their personality comes through. 110 00:12:36,415 --> 00:12:39,916 During my time as a songwriter and performer, 111 00:12:39,917 --> 00:12:44,781 I've kind of watched and felt that I was seeing the end of the guitar 112 00:12:44,782 --> 00:12:49,013 as a kind of focus for popular music. 113 00:12:49,014 --> 00:12:52,247 And yet every time I think it's kind of counted out, 114 00:12:52,248 --> 00:12:53,383 it flares up somewhere else. 115 00:12:54,382 --> 00:12:58,613 I keep guitars that are, you know... The neck's a little bit bent, 116 00:12:58,614 --> 00:13:00,246 and it's a little bit out of tune, 117 00:13:00,247 --> 00:13:01,749 and I want to work and battle it 118 00:13:01,750 --> 00:13:05,014 and conquer it and make it express 119 00:13:05,015 --> 00:13:06,513 whatever attitude I have at that moment. 120 00:13:06,514 --> 00:13:07,783 I want it to be a struggle. 121 00:13:09,781 --> 00:13:12,686 I have no idea what these are, but... 122 00:13:38,515 --> 00:13:41,146 My early demos were real sketches. 123 00:13:41,147 --> 00:13:42,756 They weren't fully fleshed out. 124 00:13:49,748 --> 00:13:52,314 That's interesting. That ended up... 125 00:13:55,382 --> 00:13:59,514 It's the music that tells us the direction the song should go. 126 00:13:59,515 --> 00:14:03,180 As writers, we start with the feeling 127 00:14:03,181 --> 00:14:04,751 and everything follows from that. 128 00:14:07,748 --> 00:14:11,580 These guitar parts ended up in the final version, 129 00:14:11,581 --> 00:14:14,945 so this could be discovering, you know, 130 00:14:14,946 --> 00:14:20,881 those particular voicings of the chords and what have you. 131 00:14:36,447 --> 00:14:37,416 Four, five, six. 132 00:14:39,414 --> 00:14:40,616 Four, five, six. 133 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:46,213 Bono's actually calling out the timing. 134 00:14:46,214 --> 00:14:48,012 That's funny. 135 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:49,452 Four, five, six. 136 00:14:53,448 --> 00:14:56,080 'Cause the first section's in a different time signature, 137 00:14:56,081 --> 00:15:01,411 so it was a little bit of a head trip to go between the two. 138 00:15:01,412 --> 00:15:03,281 One, two, three, four, five, six. One... 139 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,011 But you can count it in different ways. 140 00:15:08,012 --> 00:15:11,444 ...six. One, two, three, four, five, six. 141 00:15:11,445 --> 00:15:13,279 One, two, three, four, five, six. 142 00:15:14,278 --> 00:15:16,983 One, two, three, four, five, six. 143 00:15:18,981 --> 00:15:21,747 Or you can go, one, two, three, one, two, three. 144 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:24,344 It's like a waltz beat. 145 00:15:24,345 --> 00:15:25,813 One, two, three, one, two, three, 146 00:15:25,814 --> 00:15:28,145 one, two, three, one, two, three. 147 00:16:20,745 --> 00:16:22,478 When you start to treat the sound, 148 00:16:22,479 --> 00:16:25,711 you start to invoke locations. 149 00:16:25,712 --> 00:16:29,879 As I'm working, I'm often thinking about, "Where is this?" 150 00:16:30,878 --> 00:16:32,482 Where is this location? 151 00:16:36,478 --> 00:16:41,313 Wow, there was a whole science block there when I was living here. 152 00:16:42,312 --> 00:16:43,179 That's amazing. 153 00:16:44,178 --> 00:16:49,344 We played on a kind of flat area over there with, 154 00:16:49,345 --> 00:16:51,716 I wouldn't say a paying audience... 155 00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:58,978 We all got up here. 156 00:16:58,979 --> 00:17:01,511 Larry was back here obviously 157 00:17:02,510 --> 00:17:05,110 and I think I was on this side. 158 00:17:05,111 --> 00:17:06,276 You were there? 159 00:17:06,277 --> 00:17:08,145 Yeah, I was this side, yeah. 160 00:17:09,144 --> 00:17:10,685 Actually, and have been ever since. 161 00:17:19,676 --> 00:17:22,843 This was where we used to rehearse. 162 00:17:22,844 --> 00:17:25,678 Now, this is really the very, very beginning for us, you know. 163 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:32,176 So, this was Mr. McKenzie's room, and he was very nice to us. 164 00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:38,076 So, rehearsal was 10 minutes of clearing away desks and chairs, 165 00:17:38,077 --> 00:17:40,544 and then an hour of 166 00:17:41,543 --> 00:17:43,608 seeing if we could get anything together. 167 00:17:43,609 --> 00:17:46,840 None of us could play at this point, really. 168 00:17:46,841 --> 00:17:50,441 For a while, we would come and we would try and go through songs, 169 00:17:50,442 --> 00:17:53,077 and it was really bad. Like, really, really bad. 170 00:17:54,076 --> 00:17:57,175 ♪ I will walk in the wild wind 171 00:17:57,176 --> 00:18:00,342 ♪ I love to stare I love to watch myself grow 172 00:18:00,343 --> 00:18:03,475 ♪ Someday, maybe tomorrow 173 00:18:03,476 --> 00:18:04,976 ♪ New direction, hello 174 00:18:04,977 --> 00:18:08,141 ♪ Well, I know, know, know 175 00:18:08,142 --> 00:18:09,443 ♪ Well, I know, know, know 176 00:18:09,444 --> 00:18:12,476 ♪ I know, know, know ♪ 177 00:18:12,477 --> 00:18:15,789 The thrill was just being able to do it even if you did it badly. 178 00:18:28,776 --> 00:18:29,779 Hello. 179 00:18:33,775 --> 00:18:35,807 We're always worried about being satisfied. 180 00:18:35,808 --> 00:18:38,450 When you become satisfied, it's sort of like you just die. 181 00:18:46,442 --> 00:18:49,608 My name is Jack White, and this is my big sister, Meg White, on the drums. 182 00:18:49,609 --> 00:18:52,407 Thank you for letting us into your home. We really appreciate it. 183 00:18:59,775 --> 00:19:03,241 ♪ Well, hey, little apple blossom 184 00:19:03,242 --> 00:19:07,741 ♪ What seems to be the problem? 185 00:19:07,742 --> 00:19:11,408 What can I do with three strings on a guitar instead of six? 186 00:19:11,409 --> 00:19:13,977 ♪ They don't really care for you 187 00:19:14,976 --> 00:19:16,907 It takes me three steps to get over 188 00:19:16,908 --> 00:19:20,473 to play the organ in the middle of this song. Put it four steps away, 189 00:19:20,474 --> 00:19:24,010 then I'll have to run faster and I'll push myself harder to get to it. 190 00:19:26,008 --> 00:19:29,209 ♪ Yes, and I will come and rescue you ♪ 191 00:19:30,208 --> 00:19:32,405 ♪ One, two, three, four Take the elevator 192 00:19:32,406 --> 00:19:35,175 ♪ At the Hotel Yorba I'll be glad to see you later 193 00:19:35,176 --> 00:19:38,041 ♪ All they got inside is vacancy 194 00:19:38,042 --> 00:19:40,174 ♪ Yes, ma'am ♪ 195 00:19:40,175 --> 00:19:41,338 Meg and I don't even talk about what the first song's gonna be. 196 00:19:41,339 --> 00:19:42,773 We just go out and play. 197 00:19:42,774 --> 00:19:44,738 Think of something fast, hurry up and think of something, 198 00:19:44,739 --> 00:19:46,142 because these guys want a show. 199 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:49,905 People know when something's fake 200 00:19:49,906 --> 00:19:53,305 and they know when something's rehashed and rehearsed. 201 00:19:53,306 --> 00:19:55,406 They know when you're telling the same joke between songs 202 00:19:55,407 --> 00:19:58,407 that you told in Poughkeepsie last night. 203 00:19:58,408 --> 00:20:00,510 They can smell it. 204 00:20:02,508 --> 00:20:05,071 ♪ Well, it's one, two, three, four Take the elevator 205 00:20:05,072 --> 00:20:07,574 ♪ At the Hotel Yorba I'll be glad to see you later 206 00:20:07,575 --> 00:20:10,073 ♪ All they got inside is vacancy 207 00:20:10,074 --> 00:20:12,208 ♪ Yes, ma'am 208 00:20:13,774 --> 00:20:17,639 I play really old guitars, plastic guitars. 209 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,738 ♪ It might sound silly Yeah, for me to think... 210 00:20:20,739 --> 00:20:22,671 If you want it easy you buy a brand-new Les Paul 211 00:20:22,672 --> 00:20:24,909 or a brand-new Stratocaster. 212 00:20:26,907 --> 00:20:31,307 ♪ Let's get married In a big cathedral by a priest... ♪ 213 00:20:33,305 --> 00:20:37,239 And this is my main guitar that I played live 214 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,171 for my 10 years in the White Stripes. 215 00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:42,406 It's a hollow piece of plastic. 216 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:45,573 And you got this at Montgomery Ward's department store. 217 00:20:45,574 --> 00:20:49,640 Sears sold Silvertones and Montgomery Ward sold Airlines. 218 00:20:49,641 --> 00:20:54,639 I want to show you, Jack, what the... If you just take this and... 219 00:21:11,407 --> 00:21:13,971 Yeah, that's it. Pick a fight with it. 220 00:21:13,972 --> 00:21:16,529 That's what you gotta do. Pick a fight with it and win the fight. 221 00:21:16,905 --> 00:21:18,873 He's learning. 222 00:21:19,872 --> 00:21:22,646 I'd like to introduce Led Zeppelin to you. 223 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,873 On bass guitar, John Paul Jones. This is John Paul Jones. 224 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,806 On drums, John Bonham. 225 00:21:43,906 --> 00:21:46,577 Lead guitar, Jimmy Page. 226 00:21:51,572 --> 00:21:54,637 And myself, Robert Plant. 227 00:21:54,638 --> 00:21:57,236 We were so comfortable playing with each other 228 00:21:57,237 --> 00:22:00,209 that we could take it in any direction. 229 00:22:04,205 --> 00:22:08,143 The four members of the band had taken on this sort of fifth element. 230 00:22:13,138 --> 00:22:17,506 Passion, honesty and competence. 231 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:20,154 Absolute musical heaven. 232 00:22:35,138 --> 00:22:37,640 ♪ How many more times 233 00:22:39,638 --> 00:22:43,343 ♪ Treat me the way that you wanna do? 234 00:22:48,338 --> 00:22:49,841 ♪ How many more times 235 00:22:53,837 --> 00:22:59,306 ♪ Treat me the way that you wanna do? ♪ 236 00:23:01,304 --> 00:23:02,470 Wow. 237 00:23:05,071 --> 00:23:08,041 Boy, oh, boy, this brings back some memories. 238 00:23:11,038 --> 00:23:15,603 Yeah, this is... Well, come straight into the entrance hall 239 00:23:15,604 --> 00:23:19,069 and this is the hall where the drums were set up 240 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:22,710 and where Levee Breaks was recorded. 241 00:23:29,703 --> 00:23:32,268 We had been recording in this room here. 242 00:23:32,269 --> 00:23:34,668 Bonzo had ordered a new drum kit. 243 00:23:34,669 --> 00:23:38,404 His tech, you know, his road manager, had set it up in the hall. 244 00:23:38,405 --> 00:23:42,936 And when Bonzo came out, he started playing it in this thing, 245 00:23:42,937 --> 00:23:44,772 and it was this huge expanse. 246 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:49,700 You're getting the drums reflecting off of the walls, 247 00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:52,535 you know, this wonderful ambience to the drums. 248 00:23:55,404 --> 00:23:57,704 Yeah, you can hear the reflective surfaces. 249 00:23:58,703 --> 00:24:02,535 You know, it's really live and ambient. 250 00:24:02,536 --> 00:24:05,837 We had a recording truck parked on the outside here. 251 00:24:05,838 --> 00:24:09,235 And you'd be running the wires from their cables 252 00:24:09,236 --> 00:24:11,935 with the mic leads, running them into the house. 253 00:24:11,936 --> 00:24:15,271 The mics were put up here over the banisters here. 254 00:24:18,268 --> 00:24:21,469 In those days, the drummer would be in a little booth 255 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:26,304 so the drums were just totally, you know, crushed. 256 00:24:27,303 --> 00:24:29,101 This was quite radical. 257 00:24:29,102 --> 00:24:31,669 After this you heard of other, you know, drummers 258 00:24:32,668 --> 00:24:36,734 and bands looking for lift shafts and things to record in, 259 00:24:36,735 --> 00:24:37,815 to get the height, you see. 260 00:24:49,436 --> 00:24:53,734 We'd done three albums that were recorded in the studio. 261 00:24:53,735 --> 00:24:56,458 And this was another approach. 262 00:25:19,435 --> 00:25:22,601 ♪ The Queen of Light took her bow 263 00:25:22,602 --> 00:25:25,103 ♪ And then she turned to go 264 00:25:27,101 --> 00:25:30,133 As a kid, what was going on in the music 265 00:25:30,134 --> 00:25:34,603 was as important to me as what was going on vocally and lyrically, 266 00:25:34,604 --> 00:25:36,236 and it always was. 267 00:25:37,235 --> 00:25:38,934 ♪ Sing to the morning light 268 00:25:38,935 --> 00:25:41,866 ♪ The Dark Lord rides in force tonight 269 00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:45,699 ♪ And time will tell us all ♪ 270 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,470 Just word of mouth and grapevines. 271 00:25:50,468 --> 00:25:52,103 Isolation. 272 00:25:54,101 --> 00:25:58,099 We moved house and the guitar was there, left behind. 273 00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,833 It was one of these, sort of, 274 00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:03,565 weird interventions of the guitar into our family. 275 00:26:03,566 --> 00:26:06,936 It was just like a sort of ornament left behind at the house. 276 00:26:12,267 --> 00:26:15,166 ♪ Gamblin' man, man, man, Gamblin' man 277 00:26:15,167 --> 00:26:17,866 ♪ I'm a gamblin' man, man, man I'm a gamblin' man 278 00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:20,537 ♪ I'm a gamblin' man 279 00:26:23,534 --> 00:26:28,133 For anyone who could play guitars, they all played skiffle. 280 00:26:28,134 --> 00:26:32,303 That was the sort of community project at the time. 281 00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:37,669 Played on massive guitars and washboards. 282 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:40,969 Local cuisine. 283 00:26:43,966 --> 00:26:48,466 Very, very English. Pre-rock this is. 284 00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:51,467 ♪ I'm a gamblin' man, man, man I'm a gamblin' man ♪ 285 00:26:51,468 --> 00:26:54,165 We all weaned on that music. 286 00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:57,800 It was like a sort of rock 'n' roll breastfeeding of it. 287 00:26:57,801 --> 00:27:01,799 I went to school one day after hearing this stuff 288 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,764 and seeing Lonnie Donegan on the television. 289 00:27:03,765 --> 00:27:04,963 This guy actually had a guitar 290 00:27:05,533 --> 00:27:07,099 and he was playing Rock Island Line. 291 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,599 It was like, "Wow." 292 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,264 And I said, "I've got one of those at home." 293 00:27:10,265 --> 00:27:12,731 And he said, "Bring it along and I'll show you how to tune it." 294 00:27:12,732 --> 00:27:15,664 Well, that was more accessible to be able to start to play. 295 00:27:15,665 --> 00:27:17,564 Right, you could put a band together pretty easily. 296 00:27:17,565 --> 00:27:20,098 I mean, you could get to know one chord and just strum it all day 297 00:27:20,099 --> 00:27:22,365 and be having a great time, you know. 298 00:27:22,366 --> 00:27:24,501 ♪ Well, Mama don't allow no skiffle down in here 299 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,065 ♪ Oh, no, she don't 300 00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:31,032 ♪ Mama don't allow no skiffle down in here 301 00:27:31,033 --> 00:27:33,330 ♪ Well, we don't care what Mama don't allow 302 00:27:33,331 --> 00:27:34,769 ♪ Gonna play that skiffle any old how 303 00:27:35,533 --> 00:27:38,429 ♪ Mama don't allow no skiffle down in here 304 00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:42,200 We were a little local band and we were playing around 305 00:27:42,201 --> 00:27:45,398 school dances, and not even the slightest, 306 00:27:45,399 --> 00:27:49,396 mildest consideration that that would go into something. 307 00:27:49,397 --> 00:27:52,230 There wasn't this driving thing, that the minute you hit your teens, 308 00:27:52,231 --> 00:27:53,602 you gotta be famous. 309 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399 What are your two names? Yours is? 310 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,196 - James Page and... - David Houston. 311 00:27:59,197 --> 00:28:00,666 And you're just learning to play the guitar? 312 00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,698 - Yes, from a teacher. - From a teacher. 313 00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:04,332 Do you play anything except skiffle? 314 00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:06,197 Yes, Spanish and dance. 315 00:28:06,198 --> 00:28:08,131 Do you? What are you gonna do when you leave school? 316 00:28:08,132 --> 00:28:09,330 Take up skiffle? 317 00:28:09,331 --> 00:28:12,276 No, I want to do, well, biological research. 318 00:28:23,265 --> 00:28:26,837 Dublin in the mid-'70s was really economically very challenged. 319 00:28:31,832 --> 00:28:33,670 The economy was in the toilet. 320 00:28:38,665 --> 00:28:41,509 We just didn't believe that anything could change. 321 00:28:53,497 --> 00:28:55,164 There has to be more than this. 322 00:28:55,165 --> 00:29:00,001 This is not the only thing that is on offer here. 323 00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,230 You want to figure out how you want to play guitar, 324 00:29:43,231 --> 00:29:45,061 what your niche will be. 325 00:29:45,062 --> 00:29:47,365 You just start digging deeper. 326 00:29:48,364 --> 00:29:51,462 When you're digging deeper into rock 'n' roll, 327 00:29:51,463 --> 00:29:54,129 well, you're on a freight train headed straight for the blues. 328 00:29:54,130 --> 00:29:59,161 ♪ Well, then, come to your house and he won't stay long 329 00:29:59,162 --> 00:30:02,365 ♪ You look in the bed, you'll find your mother gone 330 00:30:03,364 --> 00:30:09,527 ♪ Death don't have no mercy in this land ♪ 331 00:30:09,528 --> 00:30:13,664 1930s, really scary version of the blues. 332 00:30:15,662 --> 00:30:17,563 If you go back and listen to some of these songs, 333 00:30:17,564 --> 00:30:23,061 I mean, you can't really believe that they were even recorded to wax. 334 00:30:23,062 --> 00:30:25,563 Robert Johnson. Dark Was the Night. 335 00:30:25,564 --> 00:30:27,794 Blind Willie Johnson. 336 00:30:27,795 --> 00:30:30,894 "I asked her for water, she gave me gasoline." 337 00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:33,331 Minor key, anti the establishment. 338 00:30:36,328 --> 00:30:39,161 Questioning themselves. 339 00:30:39,162 --> 00:30:40,465 Painful. 340 00:30:43,462 --> 00:30:47,860 There's a tension in that music that you can feel. 341 00:30:47,861 --> 00:30:50,861 It just feels like there's this place where, you know, 342 00:30:50,862 --> 00:30:54,905 my soul rests and those guys were expressing it. 343 00:31:05,894 --> 00:31:08,460 In the Bible, God cursed the ground, 344 00:31:08,461 --> 00:31:12,229 so that the man will always be... Will have to work hard. 345 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:15,226 Whether you're a farmer, or a carpenter, 346 00:31:15,227 --> 00:31:18,127 or a guitar player, or whatever it is, 347 00:31:18,128 --> 00:31:20,804 you have to fight these man-made materials. 348 00:31:29,795 --> 00:31:32,093 Fifteen-minute guitar solos, 349 00:31:32,094 --> 00:31:35,960 15-minute organ solos or the drum solos. 350 00:31:35,961 --> 00:31:39,095 There was a huge element of self-indulgence. 351 00:31:39,096 --> 00:31:44,263 Professional rock musicians who looked down upon their fans. 352 00:31:45,262 --> 00:31:49,727 Those old colors were dead, and we wanted none of it. 353 00:31:49,728 --> 00:31:54,193 ♪ The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin' 354 00:31:54,194 --> 00:31:56,127 ♪ That's what I said... ♪ 355 00:31:56,128 --> 00:31:59,692 Spinal Tap, that's a movie that I watched. 356 00:31:59,693 --> 00:32:03,331 I didn't laugh, I wept. It was so close to the truth. 357 00:32:06,328 --> 00:32:09,338 Music really was searching at that moment. 358 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,993 I'd listen to anything with a guitar on it when I was a kid, you know... 359 00:33:19,994 --> 00:33:21,125 Yeah. 360 00:33:21,126 --> 00:33:23,025 ...that was being played, 361 00:33:23,026 --> 00:33:25,257 and all those different approaches and the echoes, 362 00:33:25,258 --> 00:33:28,323 but the first time I heard the Rumble, it was like... 363 00:33:28,324 --> 00:33:30,991 That was something that had so much profound attitude to it. 364 00:33:30,992 --> 00:33:32,193 Yeah, it really does. 365 00:33:32,194 --> 00:33:33,529 It really does. 366 00:33:36,526 --> 00:33:42,224 Now he's starting to increase a vibrato on his amplifier. 367 00:33:42,225 --> 00:33:43,924 You hear... 368 00:33:43,925 --> 00:33:45,451 And it gets more intense. 369 00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:15,324 Most of my day was spent going through these records, 370 00:34:15,325 --> 00:34:17,924 listening to sounds, 371 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:20,158 or playing guitar with the sounds. 372 00:34:24,158 --> 00:34:26,226 I was pulled in through those speakers. 373 00:34:28,224 --> 00:34:30,126 This wonderful guitar playing. 374 00:34:32,124 --> 00:34:34,957 Got to get to grips with that. 375 00:34:34,958 --> 00:34:36,993 Just two people, bass. 376 00:34:38,991 --> 00:34:41,598 Go home and see if you can play it. 377 00:34:48,591 --> 00:34:51,724 All these old friends that I used to visit on a daily, 378 00:34:51,725 --> 00:34:55,794 almost hourly, almost a per-minute basis. 379 00:34:57,792 --> 00:35:01,223 Okay. Might get loud for a second. 380 00:35:14,324 --> 00:35:19,031 As kids, we were so experimental with whatever was around. 381 00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:28,024 Taking stuff apart, 382 00:35:29,023 --> 00:35:32,992 we were always tinkering, always messing around. 383 00:35:33,991 --> 00:35:38,360 We built a guitar when my brother was 16. I was 14. 384 00:35:41,357 --> 00:35:45,625 Literally hand-wound the magnets to make the pickups. 385 00:35:48,622 --> 00:35:50,561 Every little component. 386 00:35:55,556 --> 00:35:59,492 Got wood from Barry O'Connell's parents' place. 387 00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:05,423 Hand-carved the neck, hand-carved the body, 388 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:08,122 sawed the grooves, put the fret wire in, 389 00:36:08,123 --> 00:36:11,798 every aspect, and put it together. 390 00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:23,120 I mean, it wasn't the best guitar that's ever been made, 391 00:36:23,121 --> 00:36:24,302 but it functioned. 392 00:36:37,289 --> 00:36:40,254 Never wanted to play guitar, ever. 393 00:36:40,255 --> 00:36:42,524 Everyone plays guitar. 394 00:36:43,523 --> 00:36:45,197 What's the point? 395 00:36:53,189 --> 00:36:56,720 I'm the youngest of 10 kids, and there was just stuff around. 396 00:36:56,721 --> 00:36:58,428 A microscope, a power tool. 397 00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:06,587 When you're in a family of 10 kids, 398 00:37:06,588 --> 00:37:09,087 I mean, it's just a given. You're gonna be sharing all day long. 399 00:37:09,088 --> 00:37:12,019 Hand-me-down clothes, hand-me-down toys. 400 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,253 Different interests, and everyone's in and out all the time. 401 00:37:15,254 --> 00:37:16,521 Some people are walking to work, 402 00:37:16,522 --> 00:37:18,087 some people are taking the bus. 403 00:37:18,088 --> 00:37:20,486 Competition, fighting for food. 404 00:37:20,487 --> 00:37:23,957 You push each other over. You muscle your way into situations. 405 00:37:25,955 --> 00:37:29,520 My brothers, a bunch of them were musicians, 406 00:37:29,521 --> 00:37:31,329 bass, keyboards, played guitar. 407 00:37:39,321 --> 00:37:43,418 I got really into drumming, playing along with the records. 408 00:37:43,419 --> 00:37:45,657 Those rhythms got into me early. 409 00:37:48,654 --> 00:37:53,621 100% only caring about music and rhythm. 410 00:37:53,622 --> 00:37:57,620 I had a bedroom that was about seven by seven feet, really small. 411 00:37:57,621 --> 00:37:59,923 There was so much junk I had collected. 412 00:38:01,921 --> 00:38:05,053 I had two drum sets in there, 413 00:38:05,054 --> 00:38:08,555 a guitar amplifier and a reel-to-reel and no bed. 414 00:38:08,556 --> 00:38:11,053 I took the bed out. 415 00:38:11,054 --> 00:38:14,105 I slept on a piece of foam on an angle by the door. 416 00:38:31,088 --> 00:38:33,652 The thing that we started out with is a clear idea 417 00:38:33,653 --> 00:38:36,486 of what we did not want to sound like. 418 00:38:36,487 --> 00:38:41,325 Time to bop with the best in rock and pop on this week's Top of the Pops! 419 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,554 Top of the Pops was this longstanding pop TV show. 420 00:38:52,553 --> 00:38:54,885 Most of it was pretty anemic. 421 00:38:59,588 --> 00:39:04,387 If one out of the 10 items on the show was cool, you were lucky. 422 00:39:08,652 --> 00:39:12,151 That was the only live music that we could get to see. 423 00:39:12,152 --> 00:39:14,450 Making their debut on this week's Top of the Pops, 424 00:39:14,451 --> 00:39:17,253 here's The Jam and an effervescent new 45. 425 00:39:17,254 --> 00:39:19,120 One, two, three, four! 426 00:39:23,586 --> 00:39:28,218 ♪ Anything that you wanna do Anyplace that you wanna go 427 00:39:28,219 --> 00:39:33,318 ♪ Don't need permission for everything that you want ♪ 428 00:39:33,319 --> 00:39:37,983 It was like somebody just lit the touch paper on this bomb. 429 00:39:37,984 --> 00:39:42,587 So unexpected. I'd never seen anything like it. 430 00:39:43,586 --> 00:39:45,986 And a hope for a new beginning. 431 00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:53,784 It was like a switch went on. 432 00:39:57,751 --> 00:40:00,983 If we believed fully in what we were about, 433 00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:05,489 that actually was far more important than how well you could play. 434 00:40:10,484 --> 00:40:12,150 Our limitations as musicians 435 00:40:12,151 --> 00:40:13,829 were ultimately not gonna be a problem. 436 00:40:15,718 --> 00:40:17,792 I was like, "I can do that." 437 00:40:24,785 --> 00:40:26,918 Total commitment, 438 00:40:26,919 --> 00:40:28,982 getting across what you wanted to say 439 00:40:28,983 --> 00:40:31,316 in as straightforward a way as possible. 440 00:40:31,317 --> 00:40:34,248 I started inventing chords to get that sound, 441 00:40:34,249 --> 00:40:35,783 that kind of ringing sound. 442 00:40:35,784 --> 00:40:37,419 Most people play E like this. 443 00:40:39,151 --> 00:40:44,384 Full of a sort of rich, complex tone, 444 00:40:44,385 --> 00:40:49,650 which is a combination of all the major elements of the chord. 445 00:40:49,651 --> 00:40:52,914 I always wanted to simplify it and make it more pure, 446 00:40:52,915 --> 00:40:55,815 and so I found ways of playing those chords 447 00:40:55,816 --> 00:40:58,085 where I'd eliminate certain notes. 448 00:41:00,251 --> 00:41:04,183 So there's a more clear sound. 449 00:41:04,184 --> 00:41:08,617 You probably hear it more... As opposed to... 450 00:41:14,316 --> 00:41:17,652 Really paring it down to the absolute bare minimum. 451 00:41:18,651 --> 00:41:21,314 When it's so simple, you can turn it up really loud 452 00:41:21,315 --> 00:41:23,559 and it's got more aggression. 453 00:41:46,316 --> 00:41:47,982 Is it right to the C? 454 00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:49,550 No, actually, what I meant is... 455 00:41:49,551 --> 00:41:51,050 It can't be. 456 00:41:51,051 --> 00:41:52,432 Yeah. 457 00:42:06,417 --> 00:42:09,300 And then up to the hook. 458 00:42:26,283 --> 00:42:28,249 - Right. - Are you sure about that C? 459 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:29,947 - Okay. - That sounds good, doesn't it? 460 00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:31,849 Sounds great, guys. Roaring, yeah. 461 00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:33,282 Punk-rock nihilism. 462 00:42:33,283 --> 00:42:35,214 There's a bit of the punk rock in this man. 463 00:42:35,215 --> 00:42:37,121 I think there's some punk left in there. 464 00:42:42,116 --> 00:42:43,779 ♪ Ya-hee! Icky thump Who'da thunk? 465 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:45,616 ♪ Sitting drunk on a wagon to Mexico 466 00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:48,879 ♪ Ah, well, what a chump Well, my head got a bump 467 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,200 ♪ When I hit it on the radio ♪ 468 00:42:50,549 --> 00:42:53,216 Distortion, anger, 469 00:42:54,215 --> 00:42:56,747 the punk ideal. 470 00:42:56,748 --> 00:42:58,380 Guys or someone maybe who got picked on, 471 00:42:58,381 --> 00:43:00,380 like a lot of us did, in high school. 472 00:43:00,381 --> 00:43:04,089 This is our chance to, you know, push you down now. 473 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,980 Southwest Detroit, a tough town. 474 00:43:16,981 --> 00:43:19,787 It puts up with a lot and keeps going. 475 00:43:24,781 --> 00:43:29,449 There was very few white families left in the '80s. 476 00:43:30,448 --> 00:43:32,045 My family had a stiff upper lip. 477 00:43:32,046 --> 00:43:35,985 Well, we're not leaving. We're not running away like everybody else. 478 00:43:38,982 --> 00:43:42,978 I lived in an all-Mexican neighborhood. Mexican Town, it's called. 479 00:43:42,979 --> 00:43:45,280 It was uncool to play guitar. 480 00:43:45,281 --> 00:43:46,945 To play an instrument was 481 00:43:46,946 --> 00:43:50,745 the most embarrassing thing you could probably make up. 482 00:43:50,746 --> 00:43:54,347 But hip hop and house music, that's what everyone wanted to hear. 483 00:43:54,348 --> 00:43:58,646 DJs and rappers. 484 00:43:58,647 --> 00:44:02,580 It was very uncool to actually play an instrument. 485 00:44:02,581 --> 00:44:05,584 There was no record store, no guitar shop. 486 00:44:08,581 --> 00:44:11,181 Nobody liked rock 'n' roll or blues music. 487 00:44:16,013 --> 00:44:19,316 ♪ Oh, shucks, hush your mouth 488 00:44:20,315 --> 00:44:23,246 ♪ Baby, you knockin' me out 489 00:44:23,247 --> 00:44:27,546 ♪ I said, "Shucks, hush your mouth" 490 00:44:27,547 --> 00:44:31,312 ♪ Oh, baby, you're knockin' me out ♪ 491 00:44:31,313 --> 00:44:33,345 By the time I'm 15, 492 00:44:33,346 --> 00:44:35,624 I'm playing more and I'm pretty reasonably accomplished. 493 00:44:38,713 --> 00:44:42,519 Pop music was rubbish, so we weren't gonna be playing that. 494 00:44:48,513 --> 00:44:53,378 Playing blues music, music of the Chess catalog, 495 00:44:53,379 --> 00:44:55,082 not going with the flow. 496 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,578 Planning winter gigs, coming out hot, 497 00:45:00,579 --> 00:45:02,178 getting in the back of the van. 498 00:45:02,179 --> 00:45:05,312 There's not proper heating in the van. 499 00:45:05,313 --> 00:45:08,413 I thought, "This is getting really tiresome." 500 00:45:09,412 --> 00:45:11,490 Sleeping on the equipment in the back of the van, 501 00:45:12,413 --> 00:45:15,777 driving to the next gig. 502 00:45:15,778 --> 00:45:21,945 Getting ill, heavy bouts of influenza. 503 00:45:21,946 --> 00:45:25,378 I just thought, it's like beating your head against a wall here. 504 00:45:25,379 --> 00:45:27,578 And I figured that it was... 505 00:45:27,579 --> 00:45:31,719 Best thing to do at that point was actually retire. 506 00:45:37,713 --> 00:45:40,912 So I went to art college. 507 00:45:40,913 --> 00:45:44,745 Just as much as I wanted to play guitar, 508 00:45:44,746 --> 00:45:46,414 I also wanted to be an artist. 509 00:45:49,411 --> 00:45:51,780 It had always been something in me. 510 00:45:53,778 --> 00:45:58,611 I wanted to know the techniques of oil painting, life drawing, 511 00:45:58,612 --> 00:46:01,614 graphic design, sculpture 512 00:46:03,612 --> 00:46:05,979 and the techniques used by the old masters. 513 00:46:19,044 --> 00:46:22,180 You know, I apprenticed out to a lot of people when I was younger. 514 00:46:24,178 --> 00:46:27,982 I was an apprentice in an upholstery shop when I was a teenager. 515 00:46:30,979 --> 00:46:33,176 Brian Muldoon was the master of the upholstery shop 516 00:46:33,177 --> 00:46:35,943 and he was the one teaching me, and he played drums. 517 00:46:35,944 --> 00:46:38,609 Well, I guess I'll play guitar then. 518 00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:40,543 So when we were done with our workday 519 00:46:40,544 --> 00:46:44,815 we'd move the couches over, and set up and play in the shop. 520 00:46:48,811 --> 00:46:51,942 Surf and rockabilly, Dick Dale, 521 00:46:51,943 --> 00:46:53,877 and trying to absorb everything. 522 00:46:54,876 --> 00:46:56,109 He'd pick me up from school. 523 00:46:56,110 --> 00:46:57,841 I'd start tearing down the furniture, 524 00:46:57,842 --> 00:47:00,943 ripping off fabric and cotton off of old chairs, 525 00:47:00,944 --> 00:47:04,777 gluing fabric to foam on weird curves, 526 00:47:04,778 --> 00:47:06,841 tearing off all of the old fabric. 527 00:47:06,842 --> 00:47:09,160 You can imagine all the stuff that's inside of a couch. 528 00:47:09,344 --> 00:47:12,947 M&M'S, cereal, and babies' toys. 529 00:47:16,943 --> 00:47:19,075 Oh, here's how you sew a welt cord, 530 00:47:19,076 --> 00:47:22,609 or here's how you sew a fly strip on the back of a decking. 531 00:47:22,610 --> 00:47:24,741 He exposed me to punk music. 532 00:47:24,742 --> 00:47:26,277 The Velvet Underground, The Cramps. 533 00:47:27,276 --> 00:47:32,576 Really took me under his wing to be an employee and to play music together. 534 00:47:32,577 --> 00:47:36,374 And then I started writing songs. We kind of became a band. 535 00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,279 We got to put out a record and we called it The Upholsterers. 536 00:47:41,277 --> 00:47:44,543 So, this song is Froggy Went a-Courting, 537 00:47:44,544 --> 00:47:46,109 you know, the folk song, Froggy Went a-Courting. 538 00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:47,242 Mmm-hmm. 539 00:47:48,743 --> 00:47:51,714 But I'd never heard it like this before though. 540 00:47:54,711 --> 00:47:57,041 I was really into the drummer first off, I... 541 00:47:57,042 --> 00:47:58,942 ♪ Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh 542 00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:01,176 Oh, yeah. 543 00:48:01,177 --> 00:48:04,475 ♪ Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh 544 00:48:04,476 --> 00:48:05,975 And this right here, it blew my mind here. 545 00:48:05,976 --> 00:48:08,007 ♪ Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride 546 00:48:08,008 --> 00:48:10,914 ♪ With a sword and a pistol by his side, uh-huh ♪ 547 00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,041 ♪ Well, I caught a crazy lover 548 00:48:18,042 --> 00:48:21,008 ♪ Love her, yes, I do ♪ 549 00:48:21,009 --> 00:48:25,274 The Flat Duo Jets, two-piece band from North Carolina. 550 00:48:25,275 --> 00:48:28,381 Guitar, drums and vocals, just like me and Meg. 551 00:48:33,376 --> 00:48:36,310 I went and saw him play and I was blown away. 552 00:48:38,308 --> 00:48:40,807 There was nothing on stage. There was nothing there. 553 00:48:40,808 --> 00:48:44,653 He was using a little 10-watt amp and Silvertone guitar. 554 00:48:54,642 --> 00:48:57,882 Headed in, what I would have thought at the time, backwards direction. 555 00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:08,612 I had to reassess what backwards meant in my mind. 556 00:49:12,608 --> 00:49:15,942 That opened up a whole new inspiration for me about the guitar. 557 00:49:24,275 --> 00:49:26,717 I started to leave the drums alone a little bit. 558 00:49:35,708 --> 00:49:38,273 The first guitar I ever bought. 559 00:49:38,274 --> 00:49:40,706 This was, you know, brand-new when I bought it. 560 00:49:40,707 --> 00:49:42,273 It's just been with me ever since. 561 00:49:42,274 --> 00:49:46,106 And when we recorded our first album with Steve Lillywhite, 562 00:49:46,107 --> 00:49:49,272 we were in the studio in Dublin and we did the backing tracks. 563 00:49:49,273 --> 00:49:51,606 And he said, "You know, let's do some overdubs 564 00:49:51,607 --> 00:49:53,604 - "with a different guitar." - Mmm-hmm. 565 00:49:53,607 --> 00:49:55,873 I said, "What do you mean? 566 00:49:55,874 --> 00:49:57,540 "We only have one guitar. 567 00:49:57,541 --> 00:50:01,507 "This is the only guitar we own in the band." 568 00:50:16,608 --> 00:50:20,778 I was 17, I think, the summer of '78. 569 00:50:23,775 --> 00:50:27,873 And my family actually were in New York. 570 00:50:27,874 --> 00:50:29,971 It was like walking into a movie for me. 571 00:50:29,972 --> 00:50:33,038 I mean, I remember, not only did they speak like they did in the movies, 572 00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,107 but the cars looked like they did in the movies. 573 00:50:36,106 --> 00:50:37,870 That's actually how people spoke. 574 00:50:37,871 --> 00:50:39,849 That's actually what the place looked like. 575 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,803 It's a burden when you have a truck or a van, 576 00:50:50,804 --> 00:50:53,570 because everybody you know wants you to move their stuff for them, you know. 577 00:50:53,571 --> 00:50:55,838 So every time you get a phone call, 578 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,611 you're like, "Yeah, I'll come help you move your stove or your safe." 579 00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:09,571 I helped my brother move a refrigerator. 580 00:51:09,572 --> 00:51:14,074 Him and his wife started managing a St. Vincent de Paul store. 581 00:51:15,073 --> 00:51:19,739 It's like a Salvation Army kind of store in Detroit. 582 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:22,612 So I helped him move a refrigerator there. 583 00:51:28,606 --> 00:51:32,606 The sunburst. Tobacco sunburst. 584 00:51:32,607 --> 00:51:36,405 My first electric. Just tremendous. 585 00:51:36,406 --> 00:51:38,770 Just couldn't believe it when I actually got it home, 586 00:51:38,771 --> 00:51:40,908 and there it was in the house. 587 00:51:42,906 --> 00:51:44,443 Fantastic. 588 00:51:48,438 --> 00:51:51,741 This was the one. This was the one that I was after. 589 00:51:53,739 --> 00:51:57,971 I went around to the stores on the street 590 00:51:57,972 --> 00:52:01,508 and found Stuyvesant Guitars. 591 00:52:04,505 --> 00:52:06,242 Guitars everywhere, people everywhere. 592 00:52:10,238 --> 00:52:13,074 This instrument was just there, calling out to me. 593 00:52:16,071 --> 00:52:17,543 This Explorer. 594 00:52:22,538 --> 00:52:26,071 I was really starting to go on my way then. 595 00:52:26,072 --> 00:52:29,304 My technique started to improve. 596 00:52:29,305 --> 00:52:32,136 It became like a total addiction, 597 00:52:32,137 --> 00:52:36,238 to the point where actually I was now starting to take it to school. 598 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,804 And I'd be practicing during the recess breaks. 599 00:52:40,805 --> 00:52:44,170 And then it got to the point where the guitar was confiscated. 600 00:52:44,171 --> 00:52:48,169 They thought it was going to be counterculture or something. 601 00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:50,173 It wasn't doing any harm to anybody. 602 00:52:52,171 --> 00:52:55,903 Not then, it wasn't. 603 00:52:55,904 --> 00:52:59,168 So, when I helped him move the refrigerator, he said, 604 00:52:59,169 --> 00:53:01,335 "Well, how about taking this guitar for payment? 605 00:53:01,336 --> 00:53:03,568 "Thanks for helping us," you know. 606 00:53:03,569 --> 00:53:06,140 And I loved it so much I couldn't believe it. 607 00:53:09,137 --> 00:53:12,817 I was like, "Whoa, man, that was worth it." 608 00:53:25,803 --> 00:53:29,401 I plugged it into an amp in the room and just could tell. 609 00:53:29,402 --> 00:53:32,070 This was the kind of guitar that had possibilities. 610 00:53:32,071 --> 00:53:34,937 There were songs in this guitar. 611 00:53:35,936 --> 00:53:40,272 Twenty minutes in this store just defined the sound of the band. 612 00:53:41,271 --> 00:53:43,069 This better work out. 613 00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:45,170 ♪ You gotta go, go, go, go 614 00:53:45,171 --> 00:53:48,169 ♪ Goodbye, glad to see you go, go, go, go 615 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:51,234 ♪ Goodbye, glad to see you go, go, go, go 616 00:53:51,235 --> 00:53:53,090 ♪ Goodbye, goodbye ♪ 617 00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:25,935 ♪ Find yourself a girl, and settle down 618 00:54:25,936 --> 00:54:29,735 ♪ Live a simple life in a quiet town 619 00:54:29,736 --> 00:54:31,368 ♪ Steady, as she goes 620 00:54:31,369 --> 00:54:35,234 I had ideas about modifying or kind of designing my own guitar. 621 00:54:35,235 --> 00:54:37,800 I liked the body shape of this one. 622 00:54:37,801 --> 00:54:40,973 I was trying to customize one of these Gretsch guitars for The Raconteurs. 623 00:54:44,969 --> 00:54:48,568 ♪ Your friends have shown a kink in the single life ♪ 624 00:54:48,569 --> 00:54:51,232 When people take a guitar that's known for a certain sound 625 00:54:51,233 --> 00:54:53,670 and throw it into a whole different context, 626 00:54:55,668 --> 00:54:57,695 something interesting happens. 627 00:55:23,668 --> 00:55:27,200 Knowing that there was a threshold, to volume, 628 00:55:27,201 --> 00:55:29,040 I wanted to get more sustain out of things. 629 00:55:30,801 --> 00:55:34,466 I bumped into this chap, Roger Mayer, 630 00:55:34,467 --> 00:55:38,136 and all he told people was he worked at the Admiralty. 631 00:55:39,134 --> 00:55:41,737 Did I have any ideas? 632 00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:09,932 I had this record at home of a guitar 633 00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,798 that had a lot of sustain on it. 634 00:56:11,799 --> 00:56:14,101 And I got him to come around and have a listen to it. 635 00:56:14,102 --> 00:56:16,465 I said, "Can you get that?" 636 00:56:16,466 --> 00:56:20,436 And he went away and came back with this phenomenal thing. 637 00:56:23,433 --> 00:56:25,768 A distortion pedal which overloads the signal, 638 00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:35,403 overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude. 639 00:57:05,932 --> 00:57:07,433 This is what I'm actually playing. 640 00:57:15,099 --> 00:57:19,131 That's it. The rest is the foot pedal, the effects, the whole thing. 641 00:57:19,132 --> 00:57:20,998 You know, so if you're on an acoustic, trying to say, 642 00:57:20,999 --> 00:57:23,265 "Here's my new riff. It's a really cool riff. Listen." 643 00:57:33,799 --> 00:57:35,799 Oh, my Lord. 644 00:57:37,465 --> 00:57:38,364 Wow. 645 00:57:39,833 --> 00:57:44,598 That's impressive. That's great. 646 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:48,599 It was a single cutaway, and I had this brilliant luthier 647 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,464 in Seattle, Randy Parsons. 648 00:57:50,465 --> 00:57:52,862 And he made it a double cutaway for me. 649 00:57:52,863 --> 00:57:55,830 And then I said, "Well, listen, I have an idea. 650 00:57:55,831 --> 00:57:57,391 "Can you just... Can you put a silver... 651 00:57:57,631 --> 00:58:00,830 "A Green Bullet harmonica mic on the guitar, 652 00:58:00,831 --> 00:58:03,498 "so I can just take it out, and right there?" 653 00:58:28,531 --> 00:58:32,398 I got this echo unit and I brought it back to rehearsal, 654 00:58:32,399 --> 00:58:35,097 and just got totally into playing, 655 00:58:35,098 --> 00:58:37,167 but listening to the return echo 656 00:58:40,164 --> 00:58:43,497 filling in notes that I'm not playing, 657 00:58:43,498 --> 00:58:45,868 like two guitar players rather than one. 658 00:58:50,863 --> 00:58:56,330 The exact same thing, but it's just a little bit off to one side. 659 00:58:56,331 --> 00:59:00,497 I could see ways to use it that had never been used. 660 00:59:00,498 --> 00:59:02,831 Suddenly everything changed. 661 00:59:10,597 --> 00:59:12,429 So, Jimmy, what... 662 00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:14,996 You know, those early songs that you played on in the studio, 663 00:59:14,997 --> 00:59:16,629 - what did you actually play on? - Yeah. 664 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:18,462 I mean, that I would have heard, 665 00:59:18,463 --> 00:59:20,795 like, there's all these legends about... 666 00:59:20,796 --> 00:59:22,496 Well, sometimes you could hear what I did, 667 00:59:22,497 --> 00:59:24,796 and other times, you couldn't hear what I did. 668 00:59:24,797 --> 00:59:26,996 But, I mean, I was on Goldfinger. 669 00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:28,496 That was fantastic. 670 00:59:28,497 --> 00:59:30,731 Yeah. She did one take and collapsed at the end of it. 671 00:59:32,263 --> 00:59:35,129 But, you know, it was huge, huge big orchestra in the EMI number one, 672 00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:36,961 which was a massive, great studio, you know. 673 00:59:36,962 --> 00:59:39,164 They did a lot of film stuff in there. 674 00:59:39,165 --> 00:59:41,130 And, like, The Kinks stuff? 675 00:59:41,131 --> 00:59:42,431 I did some Kinks stuff. 676 00:59:42,432 --> 00:59:44,230 - Really? - Yeah. I didn't... 677 00:59:44,231 --> 00:59:46,428 I mean, you know, it all got out of hand, you know, about what I had done 678 00:59:46,429 --> 00:59:47,761 and what I hadn't done. 679 00:59:47,762 --> 00:59:49,520 Really, it became, like, the stuff of legend. 680 00:59:49,562 --> 00:59:52,429 You know, before you knew what it was, you'd done everything. 681 01:00:01,230 --> 01:00:05,261 I was filling in, in an interval band 682 01:00:05,262 --> 01:00:07,794 at a club called The Marquee Club, 683 01:00:07,795 --> 01:00:09,669 playing on Thursday evening. 684 01:00:14,664 --> 01:00:19,336 And somebody asked me, said, "Would you like to play on the record?" 685 01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:32,161 The record just bubbled in on the lower end of the Top 20. 686 01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:35,595 Then it moved so quickly. 687 01:00:35,596 --> 01:00:39,834 The invitations to do more records were so frequent after that. 688 01:00:44,829 --> 01:00:49,766 An apprenticeship, going into recording studios. 689 01:00:53,762 --> 01:00:56,161 "Can you put a riff to this?" 690 01:00:56,162 --> 01:00:58,794 A song with all its parts, the verses, 691 01:00:58,795 --> 01:01:00,928 the choruses, the middle eights. 692 01:01:00,929 --> 01:01:05,027 Feel free to add light detail on it. 693 01:01:05,028 --> 01:01:08,969 The musical notation, you needed to be right on top of it. 694 01:01:14,962 --> 01:01:17,627 I could put on all these different hats. 695 01:01:17,628 --> 01:01:21,744 Film music or a jingle. "Well done, Jimmy, that's great." 696 01:01:36,728 --> 01:01:43,160 ♪ Don't you mind people grinnin' in your face 697 01:01:43,161 --> 01:01:48,826 ♪ Don't mind people grinnin' in your face 698 01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:52,994 ♪ You just bear this in mind 699 01:01:52,995 --> 01:01:56,459 ♪ A true friend is hard to find 700 01:01:56,460 --> 01:02:01,561 ♪ Don't you mind people grinnin' in your face 701 01:02:01,562 --> 01:02:06,294 By the time I was about 18, somebody played me Son House. 702 01:02:07,293 --> 01:02:08,459 That was it for me. 703 01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:10,394 ♪ Yes, don't care how you trying to live 704 01:02:11,393 --> 01:02:14,760 ♪ They'll talk about you still 705 01:02:14,761 --> 01:02:18,292 This spoke to me in 1,000 different ways. 706 01:02:18,293 --> 01:02:22,225 I didn't know that you could do that. 707 01:02:22,226 --> 01:02:24,225 Just singing and clapping. 708 01:02:24,226 --> 01:02:26,793 And it meant everything. It meant everything about rock 'n' roll, 709 01:02:26,794 --> 01:02:31,125 everything about expression and creativity and art. 710 01:02:31,126 --> 01:02:34,695 One man against the world in one song. 711 01:02:36,693 --> 01:02:39,892 ♪ Just bear, ooh, this in mind 712 01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:43,226 ♪ A true friend is hard to find 713 01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:48,860 ♪ Don't you mind people grinnin' in your face ♪ 714 01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:58,626 That's my favorite song. Still is. 715 01:02:58,627 --> 01:03:00,859 It became my favorite song the first time I heard it 716 01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:02,726 and it still is. 717 01:03:02,727 --> 01:03:04,364 I heard everything disappearing. 718 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,238 It didn't matter that he was clapping off time. 719 01:03:10,325 --> 01:03:15,459 It didn't matter that there was no instruments being played. 720 01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:19,193 All that mattered was the attitude of the song. 721 01:03:29,659 --> 01:03:32,197 Jumping off into the unknown. 722 01:03:36,193 --> 01:03:38,657 Hope and have faith that the next chord 723 01:03:38,658 --> 01:03:40,695 or the next few notes will come to you. 724 01:03:44,691 --> 01:03:47,123 On occasions, you get nothing 725 01:03:47,124 --> 01:03:50,190 and you come out feeling like a complete idiot 726 01:03:50,191 --> 01:03:51,925 and that you don't know anything, 727 01:03:51,926 --> 01:03:56,099 and you can't play guitar and you can't write songs. 728 01:04:14,224 --> 01:04:16,989 There's this little house on the coast 729 01:04:16,990 --> 01:04:19,932 of an area outside Dublin, called Howth. 730 01:04:26,925 --> 01:04:30,155 We decided that this is where we would rehearse, 731 01:04:30,156 --> 01:04:32,332 leading up to the recording of the War album. 732 01:04:42,925 --> 01:04:44,755 There have been bombs here before, 733 01:04:44,756 --> 01:04:46,315 but nothing of the scale of yesterday's. 734 01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:50,388 And as the full implications of the number of dead and injured 735 01:04:50,389 --> 01:04:52,427 and the destruction to property became apparent, 736 01:04:53,224 --> 01:04:54,703 it's also clear that the South now 737 01:04:55,258 --> 01:04:58,061 has a serious security problem of its own. 738 01:05:02,057 --> 01:05:04,926 Bombs going off on a weekly basis. 739 01:05:06,924 --> 01:05:10,056 So many lives destroyed. 740 01:05:10,057 --> 01:05:13,493 Perverted, distorted idea of freedom. 741 01:05:17,489 --> 01:05:19,570 No life was sacred. 742 01:05:33,556 --> 01:05:37,589 The crunch came. This one day I went into this session. 743 01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:40,992 I saw this big ream of paper in front of me. 744 01:05:43,989 --> 01:05:46,460 I started to get very uncomfortable. 745 01:05:49,457 --> 01:05:52,728 There was no run-through. They counted you in, and off you went. 746 01:05:57,723 --> 01:05:59,959 It literally was Muzak. 747 01:06:01,957 --> 01:06:03,788 I'm not actually creating anything. 748 01:06:03,789 --> 01:06:07,221 I'm interpreting whatever it is that's written down now. 749 01:06:07,222 --> 01:06:09,194 And I'm even doing Muzak sessions. 750 01:06:14,189 --> 01:06:15,658 Tearing my hair out. 751 01:06:18,655 --> 01:06:20,300 And I've got to get out of it. 752 01:06:31,289 --> 01:06:35,655 And I thought about it for a long time, for days. 753 01:06:35,656 --> 01:06:37,889 There's this whole new world that's just opened up in front of me 754 01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:41,887 and I have to figure out, "How do I get there? 755 01:06:41,888 --> 01:06:44,700 "Am I not allowed to get there?" 756 01:06:55,688 --> 01:06:59,689 Bono put it to me, he said, "You know, Edge, I think maybe if you 757 01:06:59,690 --> 01:07:03,029 "would do a bit of time on your own." 758 01:07:10,022 --> 01:07:12,691 I remember feeling, "Well, can I write? 759 01:07:15,688 --> 01:07:19,193 "You know, am I a writer, or am I just a guitarist?" 760 01:07:24,188 --> 01:07:28,186 This is it. This is the day of departure. 761 01:07:28,187 --> 01:07:32,069 I wanted to get out there, and I had a lot that I really wanted to do. 762 01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:53,193 The minute that I was in The Yardbirds, that bow was out immediately. 763 01:07:58,188 --> 01:08:01,952 I shed this coat off of me, and then I wanted to try everything 764 01:08:01,953 --> 01:08:04,485 that was breaking rules. I wanted to do things that sped up. 765 01:08:04,486 --> 01:08:07,604 I wanted to do things that were like playing a bow and hurting people's ears. 766 01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:18,420 I started to look for ways to get away with it 767 01:08:18,421 --> 01:08:22,285 and not be some sort of white-boy blues band. 768 01:08:22,286 --> 01:08:24,291 And we went and played open-mic night. 769 01:08:27,288 --> 01:08:29,006 We were kind of in our own little world. 770 01:08:31,587 --> 01:08:33,156 Meg didn't really want to do it. 771 01:08:35,154 --> 01:08:36,786 I was pushing her. 772 01:08:36,787 --> 01:08:38,650 If I put her behind the drums, 773 01:08:38,651 --> 01:08:41,485 then, you know, maybe something interesting will happen. 774 01:08:41,486 --> 01:08:45,688 She just played like a little caveman and a little child. 775 01:08:46,687 --> 01:08:50,286 We started to form everything around Meg. 776 01:08:50,287 --> 01:08:53,153 We saw a bag of peppermint candies. 777 01:08:53,154 --> 01:08:54,987 I said, "Well, that should be on your bass drum. 778 01:08:54,988 --> 01:08:58,486 "We should paint that on your bass drum." 779 01:08:58,487 --> 01:09:01,687 By this time, I had found a red guitar. 780 01:09:03,685 --> 01:09:07,419 This red guitar and the peppermint candy 781 01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:10,752 dictated the aesthetic of the band. 782 01:09:10,753 --> 01:09:12,918 ♪ What am I supposed to think? 783 01:09:12,919 --> 01:09:14,785 ♪ Drop a nickel in the sink ♪ 784 01:09:14,786 --> 01:09:18,718 White Stripes became the big way to get away with it. 785 01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:23,051 By having a brother-and-sister band that was, you know... 786 01:09:23,052 --> 01:09:25,418 Red, white and black was the complete aesthetic. 787 01:09:25,419 --> 01:09:27,083 And it was childish, and we're presenting ourselves 788 01:09:27,084 --> 01:09:29,350 in a real childish manner, almost like cartoon characters. 789 01:09:29,351 --> 01:09:31,417 And a lot of distractions to keep people away 790 01:09:31,418 --> 01:09:33,218 from what was really going on, 791 01:09:33,219 --> 01:09:36,683 which was, we were just really trying to play this, you know. 792 01:09:36,684 --> 01:09:37,921 You know, still are, so... 793 01:10:03,053 --> 01:10:05,316 ♪ Dead leaves and the dirty ground 794 01:10:05,317 --> 01:10:06,888 ♪ When I know you're not around 795 01:10:08,886 --> 01:10:11,316 ♪ Shiny tops and soda pops 796 01:10:11,317 --> 01:10:14,217 ♪ When I hear your lips make a sound 797 01:10:14,218 --> 01:10:15,919 ♪ When I hear your lips make a sound 798 01:10:17,917 --> 01:10:20,383 ♪ Thirty notes in the mailbox 799 01:10:20,384 --> 01:10:21,920 ♪ Will tell you that I'm coming home 800 01:10:23,918 --> 01:10:26,252 ♪ Well, I think I'm gonna stick around 801 01:10:26,253 --> 01:10:29,051 ♪ For a while so you're not alone 802 01:10:29,052 --> 01:10:30,931 ♪ For a while so you're not alone 803 01:10:44,917 --> 01:10:46,849 I would just go to D with it sort of in a blues way, 804 01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:49,481 and I was just singing a Son House lyric. 805 01:10:49,482 --> 01:10:51,988 ♪ Didn't feel so bad till the sun went down 806 01:10:54,985 --> 01:10:57,652 And then we go to D, then... 807 01:10:58,651 --> 01:11:03,585 ♪ Didn't have no one to wrap my arms around 808 01:11:04,584 --> 01:11:06,453 ♪ Wrap my arms around ♪ 809 01:11:09,450 --> 01:11:11,999 Floating around blues structures. 810 01:11:26,984 --> 01:11:29,251 Did the press understand what you were doing? 811 01:11:29,252 --> 01:11:31,249 No, I don't think they did. 812 01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:33,916 I didn't think they had a clue what we were doing, 813 01:11:33,917 --> 01:11:39,493 as each album changed in its sort of concept and variety. 814 01:11:48,484 --> 01:11:49,818 The reviews were terrible. 815 01:11:50,817 --> 01:11:54,648 They didn't understand what we were doing. 816 01:11:54,649 --> 01:11:58,818 They gave the fourth album a one-paragraph review. 817 01:11:59,817 --> 01:12:02,281 Now, there's a lot of material on that. 818 01:12:02,282 --> 01:12:06,217 Black Dog, there's Levee Breaks, there's Stairway to Heaven. 819 01:12:07,216 --> 01:12:08,237 One paragraph. 820 01:12:28,217 --> 01:12:32,214 They didn't have a clue what was going on. 821 01:12:32,215 --> 01:12:35,188 I just didn't even bother to read music papers after that. 822 01:12:41,181 --> 01:12:44,448 This car bomb has gone off. 823 01:12:44,449 --> 01:12:48,055 This bar has been raked with machine gun fire. 824 01:12:55,048 --> 01:12:58,692 Total disregard for human life. 825 01:13:08,681 --> 01:13:10,788 We're not buying into this. 826 01:13:16,782 --> 01:13:19,125 I just remember being in a rage. 827 01:13:28,116 --> 01:13:32,117 When you go past a managed forest, 828 01:13:34,115 --> 01:13:36,956 you see a mass of tree trunks. 829 01:13:44,948 --> 01:13:47,446 Then, at a certain point, you look again, 830 01:13:47,447 --> 01:13:50,084 and you realize they're all in perfect rows. 831 01:13:53,081 --> 01:13:54,352 Clarity. 832 01:13:58,348 --> 01:14:00,351 Clarity of vision. 833 01:14:03,348 --> 01:14:08,517 What you've been looking at from the wrong angle and not seeing at all. 834 01:14:10,514 --> 01:14:11,682 You labor. 835 01:14:12,681 --> 01:14:16,112 You sweat to see 836 01:14:16,113 --> 01:14:19,916 what you couldn't have seen from that other perspective. 837 01:14:22,913 --> 01:14:26,279 I just remember just scrambling to try and put it down 838 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,458 before that moment passes and fades. 839 01:14:39,448 --> 01:14:43,946 And picking up the guitar and that's what I came out with. 840 01:14:49,648 --> 01:14:54,180 ♪ Broken bottles under children's feet 841 01:14:55,179 --> 01:15:00,578 ♪ Bodies strewn across a dead-end street 842 01:15:00,579 --> 01:15:04,081 ♪ I won't heed the battle call 843 01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:10,581 ♪ Puts my back up, puts my back up against the wall 844 01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:16,146 ♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday 845 01:15:17,145 --> 01:15:22,744 ♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday 846 01:15:22,745 --> 01:15:27,245 ♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday 847 01:15:33,078 --> 01:15:37,144 ♪ How long? How long must we sing this song? 848 01:15:37,145 --> 01:15:42,411 ♪ How long? How long? 849 01:15:42,412 --> 01:15:47,010 ♪ 'Cause tonight, we can be as one 850 01:15:47,011 --> 01:15:49,080 ♪ Tonight 851 01:15:51,078 --> 01:15:55,245 ♪ Tonight, tonight 852 01:15:55,246 --> 01:16:00,179 ♪ Tonight, tonight ♪ 853 01:16:33,145 --> 01:16:37,976 You know, I come in here and sometimes it's just not a great day, 854 01:16:37,977 --> 01:16:42,583 but there's always gonna be something if you just keep going. 855 01:16:47,577 --> 01:16:51,244 If you don't have a struggle already inside of you or around you, 856 01:16:51,245 --> 01:16:54,276 you have to make one up. 857 01:16:54,277 --> 01:16:57,246 These little things during the day. 858 01:16:58,245 --> 01:17:00,144 Extreme feelings. 859 01:17:00,145 --> 01:17:02,077 Something that made you angry or something that made you 860 01:17:02,078 --> 01:17:03,705 upset or jealous. 861 01:17:32,676 --> 01:17:38,112 ♪ Spider got eight legs and I got two 862 01:17:40,110 --> 01:17:43,008 ♪ This guitar got six strings 863 01:17:43,009 --> 01:17:46,180 ♪ But what about you? Yeah, what do you got? 864 01:17:50,176 --> 01:17:52,610 ♪ What did you get for free? ♪ 865 01:17:54,608 --> 01:17:57,810 You wrote the essence of Stairway to Heaven before you got here. 866 01:17:57,811 --> 01:17:59,842 - Yes, I had... - What is your process 867 01:17:59,843 --> 01:18:01,677 when you write a song? 868 01:18:04,111 --> 01:18:05,549 I can't tell you what the process is. 869 01:18:06,408 --> 01:18:10,208 It changes from one thing to another, 870 01:18:10,209 --> 01:18:12,575 but it usually comes just from... 871 01:18:12,576 --> 01:18:14,708 For anybody who's writing or, 872 01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:17,942 you know, whether they're writing written word or music or whatever, 873 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:21,709 it just comes from the creative spark, really. 874 01:18:21,710 --> 01:18:23,140 It's all very spontaneous, 875 01:18:23,141 --> 01:18:26,545 but, you see, the whole reason for being here was for that. 876 01:18:40,676 --> 01:18:44,874 The double neck came as a result of Stairway. 877 01:18:44,875 --> 01:18:46,906 Stairway was done on the acoustic, 878 01:18:46,907 --> 01:18:51,440 with all these electric guitar string parts on it that build it up. 879 01:18:51,441 --> 01:18:53,676 I thought to myself, "How am I going to do this on stage?" 880 01:18:53,677 --> 01:18:59,042 So, it became a necessity relative to the song, if you like. 881 01:18:59,043 --> 01:19:02,274 'Cause then you could do the six-string part, 882 01:19:02,275 --> 01:19:05,506 the acoustic part, electric, of course, but the solo on this, 883 01:19:05,507 --> 01:19:08,274 - and do the rest of it on the 12. - Right. Yeah. 884 01:19:08,275 --> 01:19:11,975 ♪ There's a lady who's sure 885 01:19:12,974 --> 01:19:15,907 ♪ All that glitters is gold 886 01:19:15,908 --> 01:19:21,241 ♪ And she's buying a stairway to heaven 887 01:19:21,242 --> 01:19:25,808 Being a studio musician, you certainly don't speed up. 888 01:19:25,809 --> 01:19:28,673 One of the things that I really wanted to do straightaway was 889 01:19:28,674 --> 01:19:30,580 crescendo and speed. 890 01:19:35,575 --> 01:19:38,351 ♪ And it makes me wonder 891 01:19:47,341 --> 01:19:50,039 I liked this idea of movement. 892 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,639 ♪ If there's a bustle in your hedgerow 893 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,072 ♪ Don't be alarmed now 894 01:19:56,073 --> 01:19:59,908 ♪ It's just a spring clean for the May Queen ♪ 895 01:19:59,909 --> 01:20:02,572 Pulse, push. 896 01:20:02,573 --> 01:20:05,809 Rise and fall in its intensity, in its power. 897 01:20:07,807 --> 01:20:09,939 Light and shade. 898 01:20:09,940 --> 01:20:12,593 Wouldn't I want to be employing that? 899 01:20:31,573 --> 01:20:34,238 That was something that was gonna keep increasing, 900 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:37,708 building, accelerating, from the beginning to the very end, 901 01:20:38,707 --> 01:20:40,604 like an orgasm. 902 01:21:44,539 --> 01:21:48,606 Every night that we went on stage, it was living. 903 01:21:49,605 --> 01:21:51,809 Totally living at every point. 904 01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:57,037 The spark had become the flame 905 01:21:57,038 --> 01:21:58,757 and the flame was burning really bright. 906 01:22:23,338 --> 01:22:24,857 ♪ What do you got that I ain't got? 907 01:22:26,338 --> 01:22:28,538 ♪ That's what I wanna know 908 01:22:29,537 --> 01:22:32,436 ♪ Can I get a piece of it? 909 01:22:32,437 --> 01:22:35,874 ♪ A piece before you go? Well, give it up, girl 910 01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:41,878 ♪ Yeah, shove it right down my throat 911 01:22:47,872 --> 01:22:51,038 ♪ Before I leave I got one last thing to say to you 912 01:22:52,037 --> 01:22:53,795 ♪ Have you seen my coat? ♪ 913 01:23:18,770 --> 01:23:21,301 That's it. 914 01:23:21,302 --> 01:23:24,602 ♪ Spent my days with a woman unkind 915 01:23:24,603 --> 01:23:29,775 ♪ Smoked my stuff and drank all my wine 916 01:23:33,771 --> 01:23:36,803 ♪ Made up my mind to make a new start 917 01:23:36,804 --> 01:23:41,241 ♪ Going to California with an aching in my heart ♪ 918 01:23:46,236 --> 01:23:48,569 There's a total concentration 919 01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:52,141 on music and creativity and writing. 920 01:23:58,135 --> 01:24:00,770 Pushing the boundaries. 921 01:24:01,769 --> 01:24:04,004 Looking over the horizon. 922 01:24:06,002 --> 01:24:10,368 Musicians that were absolutely on top of their game. 923 01:27:08,767 --> 01:27:10,566 Great! 924 01:27:10,567 --> 01:27:11,767 Nice. 925 01:27:16,098 --> 01:27:18,199 Nice. That's it. 926 01:27:29,898 --> 01:27:31,935 You're supposed to join the family. 927 01:27:33,933 --> 01:27:36,698 You're supposed to become part of it. 928 01:27:36,699 --> 01:27:39,212 That family of storytellers. 929 01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:57,430 When it goes down into that break bit. It's, yeah... It's G. Yeah. 930 01:27:57,431 --> 01:28:00,263 - D, C, C, G. - Okay. Yeah. 931 01:28:00,264 --> 01:28:01,632 G, B minor? 932 01:28:01,832 --> 01:28:03,230 G, D, C, it's the... 933 01:28:03,231 --> 01:28:04,596 Oh, right here. I see. Yeah, okay. 934 01:28:04,597 --> 01:28:06,164 The biggest thrill is creating something 935 01:28:06,165 --> 01:28:09,997 that has the power to really connect with people. 936 01:28:09,998 --> 01:28:12,731 That's why I took up the guitar in the first place. 937 01:28:12,732 --> 01:28:16,099 What's the note here for the vocal? For me, if I do it lower. 938 01:28:17,098 --> 01:28:19,163 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 939 01:28:19,164 --> 01:28:20,297 Oh, that. 940 01:28:20,298 --> 01:28:21,761 ♪ Take a load off, Annie ♪ 941 01:28:21,762 --> 01:28:22,798 I can do the high, but... 942 01:28:25,498 --> 01:28:27,997 Afraid I can't hit it. 943 01:28:27,998 --> 01:28:29,628 I can't sing. I'm hopeless. Yeah. 944 01:28:29,629 --> 01:28:31,530 Really high ones, isn't it? 945 01:28:31,531 --> 01:28:35,430 Whether I took it on, or it took me on, I don't know. 946 01:28:35,431 --> 01:28:37,630 The jury's out on that. 947 01:28:37,631 --> 01:28:40,430 But I don't care. 948 01:28:40,431 --> 01:28:43,104 I just really, really enjoyed it. That's it. 949 01:28:49,098 --> 01:28:51,496 I just noticed, I've been playing 950 01:28:51,497 --> 01:28:53,431 the wrong second chord in the verse. 951 01:28:53,432 --> 01:28:54,564 Have you? 952 01:28:54,565 --> 01:28:56,399 It's a B minor, actually, not an E minor. 953 01:28:58,397 --> 01:28:59,497 Oh, shit. 954 01:28:59,498 --> 01:29:00,930 Yeah, that's better. 955 01:29:00,931 --> 01:29:03,630 For me, it was a much bigger world. 956 01:29:03,631 --> 01:29:07,579 I had a voracious appetite for everything. All of it. 957 01:29:22,563 --> 01:29:24,827 Music keeps progressing and moving on 958 01:29:24,828 --> 01:29:27,128 and people come up with new ideas and new tricks 959 01:29:27,129 --> 01:29:30,964 and new ways to tell the same story in a different way. 960 01:29:30,965 --> 01:29:36,169 ♪ I'm bringing back ghosts that are no longer there 961 01:29:41,164 --> 01:29:44,331 ♪ I'm getting hard on myself 962 01:29:45,330 --> 01:29:47,229 ♪ Sitting in my easy chair 963 01:29:47,230 --> 01:29:49,462 We're all doing the same thing, 964 01:29:49,463 --> 01:29:51,894 attempting to share something with another human being. 965 01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:53,732 ♪ Well, there's three people in the mirror 966 01:29:54,731 --> 01:29:58,834 ♪ And I'm wondering which one of them I should choose 967 01:30:02,829 --> 01:30:05,363 ♪ Well, I can't keep from laughing 968 01:30:05,364 --> 01:30:09,669 ♪ Spitting out these 300 miles per hour outpour blues ♪ 969 01:30:16,661 --> 01:30:21,229 In essence, we are effectively the same band. 970 01:30:21,230 --> 01:30:24,062 We're a little bit more complex. 971 01:30:24,063 --> 01:30:27,394 But we're really still the band 972 01:30:27,395 --> 01:30:29,862 that's crowded into the small little rooms, 973 01:30:30,861 --> 01:30:32,627 trying to play with each other 974 01:30:32,628 --> 01:30:36,326 and find those clues that will take us somewhere new. 975 01:30:36,327 --> 01:30:38,664 Now, exactly where this note was I have no memory. 976 01:30:39,663 --> 01:30:41,495 But this is where it was put. 977 01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:51,293 I loved this whole idea of, you know, getting a band together. 978 01:30:51,294 --> 01:30:53,693 So I was definitely gonna do something. 979 01:30:53,694 --> 01:30:57,527 But if Larry had not put the message up, I would have been in some other band. 980 01:30:57,528 --> 01:30:59,961 I don't know. It wouldn't have been U2. 981 01:30:59,962 --> 01:31:04,129 God knows who it would have been. And if, you know, would I 982 01:31:05,128 --> 01:31:06,632 be doing what I am now? Probably not. 983 01:31:11,627 --> 01:31:14,397 I mean, I could be doing anything. 984 01:31:16,395 --> 01:31:19,780 I'd be, I don't know, working in a bank somewhere or something. 985 01:31:38,761 --> 01:31:41,461 The day when you pick up a guitar 986 01:31:41,462 --> 01:31:44,428 and there's nothing coming through whatsoever. 987 01:31:44,429 --> 01:31:47,529 There's no new pieces, no new ideas. 988 01:31:49,527 --> 01:31:53,628 And that's the sort of gift that any creative person has. 989 01:31:53,629 --> 01:31:58,526 There's always that point that that might happen to you. 990 01:31:58,527 --> 01:32:02,726 Or you're too old to be able to pick the guitar up. 991 01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:07,498 And we're just trying to keep that day far, far away and out of sight. 992 01:32:24,994 --> 01:32:27,493 ♪ I pulled into Nazareth 993 01:32:27,494 --> 01:32:30,260 ♪ Was feelin' about half past dead 994 01:32:31,259 --> 01:32:33,627 ♪ I just need someplace 995 01:32:33,628 --> 01:32:37,458 ♪ Where I can lay my head 996 01:32:37,459 --> 01:32:39,692 ♪ "Hey, mister, can you tell me 997 01:32:39,693 --> 01:32:43,693 ♪ "Where a man might find a bed?" 998 01:32:43,694 --> 01:32:46,426 ♪ He just grinned and shook my hand 999 01:32:46,427 --> 01:32:47,827 ♪ "No!" was all he said 1000 01:32:49,825 --> 01:32:51,961 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1001 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,860 ♪ Take a load for free 1002 01:32:55,859 --> 01:32:58,592 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1003 01:32:58,593 --> 01:33:00,292 ♪ And 1004 01:33:00,293 --> 01:33:04,363 ♪ And you put the load right on me 1005 01:33:06,361 --> 01:33:10,390 This one's called Claudette. After the actress Claudette Colbert. 1006 01:33:10,391 --> 01:33:12,257 My tattoo artist did all this for me. 1007 01:33:12,258 --> 01:33:14,591 He's really good at doing this on people, 1008 01:33:14,592 --> 01:33:16,071 so we figured he'd be doing it with... 1009 01:33:16,526 --> 01:33:17,857 I bought him a wood burning tool, 1010 01:33:17,858 --> 01:33:19,924 so he could burn her face on the side of it. 1011 01:33:19,925 --> 01:33:22,426 I made the pick guard, so it looks like a brunette. 1012 01:33:22,427 --> 01:33:26,560 ♪ When I saw old Carmen and the Devil walking side by side 1013 01:33:28,558 --> 01:33:33,427 ♪ I said, "Hey, Carmen, come on and let's go downtown" 1014 01:33:34,426 --> 01:33:36,692 ♪ She said, "I gotta go now 1015 01:33:36,693 --> 01:33:39,693 ♪ "Well, my friend, she can stick around for you" 1016 01:33:39,694 --> 01:33:42,759 ♪ Yeah, well, take a load off, Annie 1017 01:33:43,758 --> 01:33:45,958 ♪ Take a load for free 1018 01:33:45,959 --> 01:33:48,360 And you come out and bring your amp out here all the time? 1019 01:33:48,361 --> 01:33:50,424 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1020 01:33:50,425 --> 01:33:55,727 It's my thing. You know, I like to get out here in the elements and rock out. 1021 01:33:56,726 --> 01:33:58,691 Yeah, with the islands. 1022 01:33:58,692 --> 01:34:01,391 The islands I always find very inspiring 1023 01:34:01,392 --> 01:34:04,138 for those long echo, delayed sounds. 1024 01:34:18,123 --> 01:34:20,157 It's an actual theremin. 1025 01:34:30,726 --> 01:34:32,823 It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun. 1026 01:34:34,125 --> 01:34:36,225 ♪ Take a load for free 1027 01:34:37,224 --> 01:34:40,756 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1028 01:34:40,757 --> 01:34:45,236 ♪ And, well, yeah you put the load right on me 1029 01:34:57,224 --> 01:35:02,089 ♪ Go down, Miss Moses, there's nothing you can say 1030 01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:04,521 I notice you have a picture of the Fab Four. 1031 01:35:04,522 --> 01:35:07,391 It's actually not so much reverence for The Beatles. 1032 01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:11,989 It's a kind of haircut reference for the crew. 1033 01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:13,492 ♪ "What about young Anna Lee?" 1034 01:35:15,490 --> 01:35:17,689 ♪ He said, "Do me a favor, son 1035 01:35:17,690 --> 01:35:21,822 ♪ "Won't you stay and keep Anna Lee company?" 1036 01:35:21,823 --> 01:35:23,891 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1037 01:35:24,890 --> 01:35:26,958 ♪ Take a load for free 1038 01:35:28,956 --> 01:35:32,856 We almost had an accident with a suit and a cell phone. 1039 01:35:34,889 --> 01:35:37,867 He was probably right in the middle of saying the words "totally organic." 1040 01:35:47,857 --> 01:35:50,222 ♪ Crazy Chester followed me 1041 01:35:50,223 --> 01:35:53,555 ♪ And he caught me in the fog 1042 01:35:53,556 --> 01:35:55,387 Look at that. Somebody's put the lyrics 1043 01:35:55,388 --> 01:35:56,991 to Glad to See You Go on their locker. 1044 01:35:58,124 --> 01:36:00,654 What a coincidence. Okay. 1045 01:36:00,655 --> 01:36:02,521 We used to play this song. 1046 01:36:02,522 --> 01:36:06,055 ♪ "You know I'm a peaceful man" 1047 01:36:06,055 --> 01:36:08,421 ♪ He said, "That's okay, boy 1048 01:36:08,422 --> 01:36:12,055 ♪ "Won't you feed my dog, now, when you can?" 1049 01:36:12,056 --> 01:36:14,224 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1050 01:36:15,223 --> 01:36:17,190 ♪ Take a load for free 1051 01:36:18,189 --> 01:36:20,855 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1052 01:36:20,856 --> 01:36:22,455 ♪ And 1053 01:36:22,456 --> 01:36:26,034 ♪ And you put the load right on me 1054 01:36:38,022 --> 01:36:40,123 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1055 01:36:41,122 --> 01:36:43,124 ♪ Take a load for free 1056 01:36:44,123 --> 01:36:46,620 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1057 01:36:46,621 --> 01:36:47,820 ♪ And 1058 01:36:47,821 --> 01:36:51,967 ♪ And you put the load right on me 1059 01:37:03,955 --> 01:37:05,956 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1060 01:37:06,955 --> 01:37:08,922 ♪ Take a load for free 1061 01:37:09,921 --> 01:37:12,454 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1062 01:37:12,455 --> 01:37:13,587 ♪ And 1063 01:37:13,588 --> 01:37:17,587 ♪ And you put the load right on me 1064 01:37:17,588 --> 01:37:19,523 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1065 01:37:20,522 --> 01:37:22,588 ♪ Take a load for free 1066 01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:25,290 ♪ Take a load off, Annie 1067 01:37:26,289 --> 01:37:27,787 ♪ And 1068 01:37:27,788 --> 01:37:31,207 ♪ And you put the load right on me ♪