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This is 18, 10‐81.
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No, sir.
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No, sir.
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[man] How much money
do you have in here?
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‐ [John] Maybe $4,000.
‐ [man] $4,000?
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[John] Yes, sir.
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‐ The FBI?
‐ [John] Precisely.
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[Nanette]
The name McAfee reminds me
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[Nanette]
The name McAfee reminds me
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of my very first laptop.
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Like most PCs
in the '90s,
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it had McAfee antivirus
software pre‐installed.
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[man] Software security guru
John McAfee,
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he made millions
as one of the nation's
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first big
software pioneers.
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[Nanette] I didn't think about
that name again until 2012,
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when John McAfee
was all over the news.
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[man] John McAfee, whose name
was synonymous with security,
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is now becoming synonymous
with the mysterious murder
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of McAfee's neighbor,
Greg Faull.
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of McAfee's neighbor,
Greg Faull.
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[Nanette] I read about John's
bizarre lifestyle in Belize,
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including being wanted
for questioning in a homicide
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and going on the run.
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[man] A murder in paradise,
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as police launch
a full‐scale search
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for an eccentric
American tycoon, John McAfee.
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[Nanette] 2016,
just a few years later,
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John was again in the news,
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this time, he was running for
President of the United States.
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Antivirus software industry
pioneer John McAfee,
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throwing his hat into
the 2016 presidential ring.
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throwing his hat into
the 2016 presidential ring.
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What has created terrorism?
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Our interference in the affairs
of foreign states.
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Dropping bombs on families.
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[Nanette]
And talking about
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some of
the most significant
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cybersecurity issues
of our time.
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But no one was talking
about his past.
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You are an expert,
and I know you're brilliant
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when it comes to matters
of security.
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We are in
the first cyber war.
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You said that you
could unlock
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the San Bernardino terrorists'
phones for the FBI.
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[Nanette] How did John McAfee
reinvent himself?
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Are there different rules
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Are there different rules
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for people with money,
power, and fame?
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Or is John just
a master manipulator?
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The last 15 years,
I've been making documentaries
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on complex and controversial
celebrities.
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I've been fascinated
with how being famous
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can put you under
a cruel spotlight.
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But it can also allow
for extraordinary privileges.
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Like the ability
to get away with things.
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Was this the case
with John McAfee?
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[man] John, where are
you going?
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[man] John, where are
you going?
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[John] To jail.
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[Nanette]
What really happened in Belize?
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♪ suspenseful music ♪
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[Nanette]
When I started the film,
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I reached out to John.
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He refused
to do an interview.
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But he repeatedly
emailed me.
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He would say,
"Do not contact me again."
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He would say,
"Do not contact me again."
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And then email me
five seconds later.
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He said...
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Even though he refused
to be interviewed.
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It started a strange,
year‐long cyber relationship.
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In the meantime, I investigated
his story in Belize.
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♪ tropical music ♪
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John moved to San Pedro,
Belize, in 2008
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and he bought a beautiful
beachside property.
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and he bought a beautiful
beachside property.
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♪♪♪
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[both] Buenas tardes.
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[John] Just look out there,
you'll see why.
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The most beautiful water
in the world.
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An off‐shore reef
that lets me
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build a house
right on the beach.
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Can't do that in Florida.
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[Nanette] How would you describe
this island, San Pedro?
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How would I describe
my island?
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‐ [Nanette] Yeah.
‐ Well, it's a beautiful island.
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It's the most beautiful island
in this country.
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[Peter] We've got 42 dive sites
from here
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within a three‐mile radius.
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It's great.
It's fantastic.
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And everybody speaks English.
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And, I mean, how many Americans
like English?
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[Paul] This is
a major destination
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for people to try to run away
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from the United States.
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from the United States.
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Approximately every
four, six months,
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U. S. Marshals
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They already know
where everybody is.
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They'll go through the island
and just make a sweep.
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[Tamara] There's expats here
that really like to
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immerse themselves
with the local culture.
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And the, you know,
the local culture
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loves a rich man,
you know?
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[Daniel] Everybody knew
John McAfee. [laughs]
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When he first came into
the country,
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he was very friendly.
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he was very friendly.
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I really thought he was
a very nice person.
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He bought prime property.
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He used to bring his friends
from the States.
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We are getting a lot
of tourists because of him.
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[Tamara] John started
donating things
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to the police department.
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Very generous.
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Extremely generous.
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He told us, "Guys, anything,
you need help,
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my doors are open."
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my doors are open."
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[Paul] He donated
a considerable amount
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of equipment to police.
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Boots, stun guns,
different assortment of weapons.
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[Tom] I recall, when he get his
residence card here,
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he gave the government of Belize
a $1 million boat.
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And that made the news here.
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[man] Why this donation
to the Coast Guard?
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I've just become a permanent
resident of Belize,
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I've just become a permanent
resident of Belize,
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and I'm very grateful
that the country of Belize
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allowed me to live here
permanently.
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And I wanted
to give something back.
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if you're giving donations
to the police,
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is it out of the goodness
of your heart?
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Or are there
some motives behind it?
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You know, why didn't you
build that library, or‐‐
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[laughs] You know?
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The schools always need
another classroom.
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There's a lot
of different ways
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There's a lot
of different ways
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you can be generous
with your money.
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[man] Entrepreneur John McAfee
is still doing
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what comes naturally:
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starting new businesses.
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[John] This is an entrepreneur's
paradise, here.
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There are virtually
no regulations on business.
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[man] McAfee started
a ferry service.
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He's also cultivating
jungle plants
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that he hopes will be
the building blocks
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for medicines of the future.
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[Allison] I was doing my
postdoc, I was at Harvard,
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but I always heard
about Belize.
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Just how amazing
the jungles were
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and the local healers.
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Decided to go to Belize
and just see
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what it was
all about, you know?
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But anyway, we'll talk about
that, then.
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[Allison] I ended up
meeting John McAfee.
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Yeah, I didn't know him
from Adam,
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but I told him about
my research,
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and he seemed engaged.
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He seemed interested,
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and within, you know,
minutes of conversation,
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and within, you know,
minutes of conversation,
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he offered me my dream job.
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He said, "You can continue
your research,
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and we'll make
a business out of it."
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And I thought,
"Oh, my God."
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I mean, this is‐‐
this is it.
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This is, like,
my big break.
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There was not a space
for the lab,
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and he had me stay with him,
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um, which made me
very uncomfortable.
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I saw a lot of stuff
when I was living in his place.
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He had armed guards.
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I'm not a huge fan of guns.
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Um, he had meetings
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with people that were
also armed.
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with people that were
also armed.
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At one point he said
that he was working on a book
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with two heavily armed,
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very built men
from the Ukraine.
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I mean, I don't know, this is
probably not relevant.
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‐ I'm sorry, this is‐‐
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This is the tangent that I told
you I would go on.
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[Nanette] Yeah, that's okay.
That's part of interviewing.
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‐ It's just, there's‐‐
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of tangents.
People‐‐we all do it.
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Oh, fuck, there's just‐‐
there's so much crazy shit.
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There's so much crazy shit
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that I don't even know‐‐
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that I don't even know‐‐
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You know, it's hard to know
where to start. [laughs]
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[Nanette] I wanted to start
with John's past.
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In emails he was evasive.
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But I managed to dig up
some of his records.
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He was born in England,
and grew up
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an only child in Virginia.
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According to John, his father
was an abusive alcoholic
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and committed suicide
when John was young.
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Eventually, John graduated
college and became
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Eventually, John graduated
college and became
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a computer engineer.
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In the 1980s, he tried his luck
in Silicon Valley.
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[phone beeps]
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McAfee, may I help you?
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Speaking.
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It's one of those
strange days.
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[Jim] His first efforts with
antivirus were in late '86.
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And, uh, he was
always playing
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with different kinds of code.
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There was this new problem
with computers,
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that was a‐‐your computer
could catch a cold.
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Okay, there it goes.
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In Budapest, uh,
we have a hospital
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that lost 25 systems.
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Uh, including
all patient records‐‐hello?
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When John came up
with antiviral software,
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90% of the people
that were running computers
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weren't even aware of viruses.
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And then viruses started
getting names.
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[man] It's called Michelangelo.
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[man] It's called Michelangelo.
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It's a lowdown work
of sabotage
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that could wreck millions
of computer programs
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around the world.
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What is a computer virus?
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A computer virus, Bryant,
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is a program
written by a hacker.
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Any computer that it's in,
it activates
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and destroys all of the data
in those systems.
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John showed his first
signs of savvy,
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working with the media.
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Able to articulate
a scary story.
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This doomsday virus
was about to hit.
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[electronic droning]
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[electronic droning]
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The entire research
community agrees,
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this is the number one virus.
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it is the number one
computer threat.
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It's real,
and it's going to happen
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on the 6th of March.
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[Mark] The Michelangelo Virus
caused many people
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around the world
to download
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antivirus software
for the first time.
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That's how the money
just started rolling in.
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By 1993, McAfee controlled
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67% of the desktop
antivirus market.
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They only had about
20 employees.
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Do not stand in doorways.
Stand against‐‐
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[Mark] But there were already,
like, $14 million in revenue.
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‐ They were printing money.
‐ Excuse me.
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It still was a group
of John's original friends
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and family that worked there.
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A lot of them didn't have
careers before.
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Excuse me.
Gretzky, Tech Support.
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John had more, like,
a cult style.
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And people would not go home
for two and three days.
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They would sleep
under their desk
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They would sleep
under their desk
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to make sure John was happy
with the work they were doing.
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Okay, what you need to do
in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file‐‐
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[Andrea] It was a crazy culture,
that's for sure.
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Three of the women
were supposedly witches,
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and they would sit
in the conference room
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and have, like,
a little chant.
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Andrea Nation would come in
in the morning
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with a bottle of Windex
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and clean off
Bill Larson's desk.
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Because there was
a sex contest going on.
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Because there was
a sex contest going on.
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You'd get points.
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They had a group called
Little Foxes,
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where they, um,
would give points
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for, uh, having sex
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in different spots
of the office.
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John being this free spirit,
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that made the culture
of the company.
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He wasn't the typical
suit and tie guy.
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The investors wanted
to take the company
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to the next level.
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to the next level.
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And that was definitely not
John's forte.
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They felt like John
couldn't do that
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and I think that John
didn't want to do it, either.
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They bought John out.
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They bought his shares out.
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[computer beeping]
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He sensed the virus threat
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in a way
that most people didn't.
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He seemed brilliant
but also paranoid.
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He is more sensitive
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than, maybe,
the average person
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than, maybe,
the average person
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to potential threats.
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My wife thought it
a little funny
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when he came next door,
looking for his wife Judy,
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who was over visiting
with us,
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'cause he wasn't home yet.
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And he shows up,
and he‐‐and so,
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I let him in the house
and he's got
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a gun in his back pocket.
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And I says‐‐
Susan said,
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you know, uh,
"Is that a gun in your pocket,
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or are you just happy
to see me?"
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[laughs] You know?
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And, you know, he just,
"Oh, well, you know,
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it's dark out, there's no street
lights on this street.
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You never know."
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But they were making
quite a bit of money then.
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But they were making
quite a bit of money then.
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And maybe somebody
kidnapped his wife.
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So he came over to see
if we'd seen her.
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Is that paranoid?
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I don't know.
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♪ pensive music ♪
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♪♪♪
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[Nanette]
After earning millions
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in Silicon Valley,
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John did not retire.
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He created social network
ventures
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like Tribal Voice
and PowWow.
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But they didn't take off.
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But they didn't take off.
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Then in 2000, he exited
the business world completely.
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He bought 280 acres
of land in Colorado
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and opened a yoga
and meditation center.
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[John] I've been doing yoga
and meditation for 35 years.
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Given the life that I lead‐‐
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and I admit,
I lead life on the edge.
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I have to do something.
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So I believe in yoga.
Yoga will extend your life,
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and it'll also give you a clear
perspective of yourself.
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and it'll also give you a clear
perspective of yourself.
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[Nanette] I asked John
how he got involved in yoga.
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After he opened
his yoga center,
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he began inviting people
to stay there.
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Got up there, and there's
this beautiful house.
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These stunning yoga studios
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and probably space
for about 25 people to sleep.
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Massive grounds and literally
like his own forest.
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Massive grounds and literally
like his own forest.
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It was kind of too big
to even get my head around,
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this massive place
that one guy owned.
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And he'd let you
stay there for free.
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Pain is nothing more
than a powerful sensation,
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is it not?
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I mean, it's‐‐it's your body
talking to you
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like your body talks to you
when you get a massage
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or when you're
sexually aroused.
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[Paul] Yeah, there was
rumors in town
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it was a cult
that he had up there,
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up in the hills.
[laughs]
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up in the hills.
[laughs]
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[Goldy] He always had
an entourage,
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like, a tribe,
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which was beautiful.
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What is this thing
that you want
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to make immortal?
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Because to live is to die
simultaneously.
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I truly believe
he was‐‐he was enlightened.
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He was‐‐he was a guru.
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He'd written five books
on the yoga process.
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They're really good.
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They're really good.
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Later, I remember
him saying
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that they were all shit.
[laughs]
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He was insinuating that he
wasn't into that stuff anymore.
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You know, there was
a definite shift in personality.
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He was a different‐‐
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I mean, you could‐‐
he was still John.
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You know,
but he was not‐‐
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he just wasn't
a guru‐type anymore.
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He didn't have‐‐
he wasn't enlightened. [laughs]
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The next time I saw him,
I'm like, "Okay."
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The next time I saw him,
I'm like, "Okay."
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[keyboard clacking]
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[man] In this recession,
the average American
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is certainly pinching
every penny.
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But the man you are
about to meet
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is one of the biggest losers.
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It's staggering, really.
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[man] Good morning,
ladies and gentlemen.
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Welcome to the estate
of John McAfee.
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Welcome to the estate
of John McAfee.
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[man] On Saturday, auctioneers
worked up bids
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for the rarified retreat
of a wealthy man
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who's taken it on the chin
in this recession.
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It's been reported you were
worth about $100 million.
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‐ That may have been true.
‐ Yet now you're‐‐
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‐ Less than ten.
‐ Less than $10 million.
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You bet.
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[man] You seem
so remarkably relaxed
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for someone who's lost
about $90 million.
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Well, yeah.
And why wouldn't I be?
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The things we want
and the things we need
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are two different things.
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are two different things.
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[man] Did it take you a while
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to come to that realization?
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Yeah, about 65 years.
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[man] Now, McAfee plans to take
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his remaining handful
of millions
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and head to Central America,
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where he started
a new venture
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to develop natural medicines.
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[Nanette] I asked John
if he moved to Belize
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because he lost
so much money.
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He said, "Not at all,
I lost very little."
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So I asked
if he transferred his money
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to offshore accounts.
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♪♪♪
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[waves crashing]
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[John] I was living
on the island of San Pedro.
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Fishing and boating and having
a great old time.
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But I was bored silly.
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Hey, how you doing?
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♪ lively music ♪
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♪♪♪
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[Tom] He was living
in San Pedro.
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[Tom] He was living
in San Pedro.
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And he called me one day
and tell me
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he wants to go
to an archeological site.
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00:21:08,494 --> 00:21:11,200
Why don't I take you
to Lamanai?
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00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,703
And he said, "Lamanai?
Where is that?"
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I said it's in
the Orange Walk District.
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00:21:18,414 --> 00:21:20,819
John was impressed
with what he saw.
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He said, "I'd love to buy
some property here."
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All right, get ready
for some serious
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"Heart of Darkness" here.
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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[Tom] Till eventually,
when I told him
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about this piece that was
available, he settled on that.
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He decided
he was gonna buy that.
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[Nanette] So is that
a big deal in this area?
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[Nanette] So is that
a big deal in this area?
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To provide so many jobs?
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00:22:01,801 --> 00:22:03,204
Definitely, you know?
Because...
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speaking Spanish
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I was hearing about
what a good guy John was
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from some of his old pals.
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00:22:54,807 --> 00:22:56,310
But then there were people
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who were really afraid
to talk to me.
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[man] I know, more or less,
everything that happened.
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[man] I know, more or less,
everything that happened.
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‐ [Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
‐ And I don't really
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want to come out on TV.
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00:23:03,825 --> 00:23:05,328
[Nanette] But you're not saying
anything bad.
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00:23:05,328 --> 00:23:06,664
[man] Yeah, but then he
won't like that.
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00:23:06,664 --> 00:23:08,568
He'll feel like I betray him.
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‐ [Nanette] Why?
‐ [man] 'Cause he, like,
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was very secretive,
and I don't want to.
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00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:14,647
He told me that he knows
everything going on
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in the whole country
of Belize.
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♪♪♪
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[Allison] John moved us to
the mainland, to Orange Walk.
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I finally had
a lab building built.
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[sighs] You know, so I just‐‐
I tried to keep my head down.
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I tried to get back to work.
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00:23:58,869 --> 00:24:00,000
John would have
reporters come
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00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,741
John would have
reporters come
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to view the lab.
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And I said, "Look‐‐
you know, I have nothing."
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[man] These 22 acres,
on the banks
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of what the Mayans once called
The River of Strange Faces,
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are owned by McAfee.
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So when I come back in a year,
this will look a lot different,
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‐ I would imagine.
‐ Right, well, you'll see
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‐ shade cloth everywhere.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
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[John] And hopefully
will be production
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of some fairly unique
pharmaceuticals.
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He was confused and upset
that I didn't have,
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00:24:29,262 --> 00:24:30,000
you know,
something more to show.
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you know,
something more to show.
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00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:34,239
And so he would have me
just put, you know,
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00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:37,211
different colored dyes
in the bottles.
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00:24:41,688 --> 00:24:44,059
Or make up batches
of, you know,
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00:24:44,059 --> 00:24:45,629
what I had already researched.
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00:24:45,629 --> 00:24:48,200
And I said, you know,
"This feels dishonest."
487
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,073
And he said, "No, you know,
it's just business.
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00:24:51,073 --> 00:24:52,475
That's what we do.
We're just trying
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to get investors,
and we wanna, you know,
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00:24:54,379 --> 00:24:55,782
get people's attention,
you know?
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00:24:55,782 --> 00:24:59,122
I promise you
it's gonna work out."
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00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:00,000
Ehh, yeah.
493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,226
Ehh, yeah.
494
00:25:03,097 --> 00:25:06,671
[Nanette] John was doing a lot
of press in Orange Walk.
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00:25:06,671 --> 00:25:08,708
I came across
several interviews,
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00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:11,948
including audio recordings
with print journalists.
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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[John] I was the only
White man, the only foreigner
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in the entire district
of Orange Walk,
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which is 10,000 people,
and that covers
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about 1/5 of the entire country
of Belize.
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So it should have been
a warning sign to me
504
00:25:52,261 --> 00:25:54,265
that I should have
walked more carefully
505
00:25:54,265 --> 00:25:57,205
or acted less obtrusively.
506
00:26:16,911 --> 00:26:18,515
[dog barking]
507
00:26:40,491 --> 00:26:42,061
speaking Spanish
508
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:49,877
His attitude was changing
509
00:26:49,877 --> 00:26:52,148
about paranoia, I think.
510
00:26:52,148 --> 00:26:55,421
He was getting
a little paranoid.
511
00:26:55,421 --> 00:26:58,427
♪ intense music ♪
512
00:26:58,427 --> 00:27:00,000
♪♪♪
513
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,264
♪♪♪
514
00:27:00,264 --> 00:27:02,936
[Tom] I start to see more
and more security people.
515
00:27:02,936 --> 00:27:04,272
Like, a lot.
516
00:27:04,272 --> 00:27:09,282
♪♪♪
517
00:27:30,090 --> 00:27:31,827
[Nanette] So he didn't mind
that you said‐‐
518
00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:29,142
[indistinct shouting]
519
00:28:32,716 --> 00:28:34,218
[Tom] One day
I told him this, I said,
520
00:28:34,218 --> 00:28:36,657
"John, why are you
surrounding yourself
521
00:28:36,657 --> 00:28:38,326
with these people?
522
00:28:38,326 --> 00:28:40,732
These people are gonna get you
into trouble."
523
00:28:40,732 --> 00:28:43,070
And that's when he told me
the story, "These people,
524
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:44,807
nobody wants to hire them.
525
00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:47,111
They're badass, they got
police record this long."
526
00:28:51,152 --> 00:28:53,023
I said, "So you employ them
527
00:28:53,023 --> 00:28:54,492
and put firearms
in their hand.
528
00:28:54,492 --> 00:28:56,029
You think
that's gonna go right?
529
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:58,634
I think he really wanted to
create a sort
530
00:28:58,634 --> 00:29:00,000
of a cult or a mystique
around himself
531
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,507
of a cult or a mystique
around himself
532
00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:03,544
as a White man on the edge.
533
00:29:03,544 --> 00:29:05,548
Like Colonel Kurtz.
534
00:29:05,548 --> 00:29:08,053
And here he is
in the heart of darkness.
535
00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:20,912
[laughs]
536
00:29:28,861 --> 00:29:30,000
[Nanette] And did he travel
in town with a bunch of guys?
537
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,332
[Nanette] And did he travel
in town with a bunch of guys?
538
00:29:38,313 --> 00:29:39,550
[Nanette]
Like, how many guys?
539
00:29:39,550 --> 00:29:43,356
Ooh, we had at least
12, 13 guys.
540
00:29:45,528 --> 00:29:48,366
[Nanette] Is that normal
to have 12 security guards?
541
00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:46,182
♪♪♪
542
00:30:50,591 --> 00:30:54,633
[Allison] John got weirder
and weirder.
543
00:30:54,633 --> 00:30:56,603
He would go on these rants.
544
00:30:56,603 --> 00:31:00,000
He talked about taking over
the Belizean government.
545
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,678
He talked about taking over
the Belizean government.
546
00:31:00,678 --> 00:31:03,049
He talked about his hit men,
and at this point
547
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:04,920
I was starting to believe it.
548
00:31:06,657 --> 00:31:08,293
[Nanette] You said hit men.
549
00:31:08,293 --> 00:31:09,596
Did you mean to say hit men
550
00:31:09,596 --> 00:31:11,432
and not security guards?
551
00:31:11,432 --> 00:31:13,604
[Alison] Yes, he would
absolutely call them hit men.
552
00:31:13,604 --> 00:31:14,840
He would talk about
his hit men,
553
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,777
he would talk about
how he could
554
00:31:16,777 --> 00:31:18,647
have people hurt or killed.
555
00:31:18,647 --> 00:31:23,524
And, um, you know,
honestly, I was‐‐I was scared.
556
00:31:26,496 --> 00:31:28,299
I planned to leave.
557
00:31:28,299 --> 00:31:30,000
But I needed to figure out
how to do it, you know?
558
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,509
But I needed to figure out
how to do it, you know?
559
00:31:32,509 --> 00:31:34,646
I went to talk to him.
560
00:31:34,646 --> 00:31:37,619
I sat there on the couch
and I told him everything.
561
00:31:37,619 --> 00:31:40,558
I said, "Look, I don't‐‐
I don't like what you're doing.
562
00:31:40,558 --> 00:31:43,329
I am not getting anywhere
with my work.
563
00:31:43,329 --> 00:31:45,000
I feel undermined.
564
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,674
And, um, you know,
I miss my family.
565
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:51,345
I wanna go home."
566
00:31:51,345 --> 00:31:53,416
And, uh, you know,
I had a headache.
567
00:31:53,416 --> 00:31:55,253
I was‐‐
I was crying so much.
568
00:31:55,253 --> 00:31:57,391
I told him
I had a headache.
569
00:31:57,391 --> 00:32:00,000
And‐‐and he‐‐
570
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,265
And‐‐and he‐‐
571
00:32:01,265 --> 00:32:03,537
He brought me, um,
he, you know,
572
00:32:03,537 --> 00:32:08,012
he went into the other room
and‐‐and he brought me
573
00:32:08,012 --> 00:32:11,052
two pills and a glass
of orange juice.
574
00:32:11,052 --> 00:32:13,323
And, um‐‐
575
00:32:13,323 --> 00:32:15,728
So I took them,
I‐‐you know, and I‐‐
576
00:32:15,728 --> 00:32:17,464
I took a sip
of the orange juice
577
00:32:17,464 --> 00:32:20,638
and it‐‐it tasted foul.
578
00:32:20,638 --> 00:32:23,209
It tasted bitter, um‐‐
579
00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:26,182
[chuckles]
I'm such an idiot.
580
00:32:26,182 --> 00:32:29,656
I‐‐I remember I made a joke
about not being able
581
00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:30,000
to get good orange juice
in a place called Orange Walk.
582
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,494
to get good orange juice
in a place called Orange Walk.
583
00:32:32,494 --> 00:32:37,004
Like, I honestly...
584
00:32:37,004 --> 00:32:39,543
[sighs]
585
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,553
I only have, sort of,
flashes
586
00:32:44,553 --> 00:32:47,692
of recollection.
587
00:32:47,692 --> 00:32:50,865
He was standing over me,
naked.
588
00:32:53,403 --> 00:32:56,543
And I woke up
the next morning
589
00:32:56,543 --> 00:32:58,212
and I was sick.
590
00:32:58,212 --> 00:33:00,000
I was dry heaving,
and I was dizzy.
591
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,553
I was dry heaving,
and I was dizzy.
592
00:33:01,553 --> 00:33:04,993
And I grabbed my clothes.
593
00:33:04,993 --> 00:33:07,565
I don't even remember
taking them off.
594
00:33:07,565 --> 00:33:12,575
And, um, I went back
to my house.
595
00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:14,946
And I locked myself
in my apartment.
596
00:33:14,946 --> 00:33:17,585
And I, um‐‐
597
00:33:17,585 --> 00:33:21,092
I sat in the shower.
I sat in the shower for‐‐
598
00:33:21,092 --> 00:33:23,296
I don't know,
until the water ran cold.
599
00:33:23,296 --> 00:33:26,536
And I was crying.
600
00:33:26,536 --> 00:33:29,809
And I was bleeding.
601
00:33:34,819 --> 00:33:38,159
Somehow I found the courage
602
00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:40,430
to confront him.
603
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:43,102
John acted as if
nothing happened.
604
00:33:43,102 --> 00:33:45,407
And I said, "I'm leaving.
605
00:33:45,407 --> 00:33:48,279
I'd like to split
on fair terms
606
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,584
and if you could buy me out
of the company."
607
00:33:50,584 --> 00:33:55,460
I remember I just started,
um, a very calm conversation,
608
00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:59,869
and he went from...
609
00:33:59,869 --> 00:34:00,000
zero to crazy
in, like, two seconds.
610
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,076
zero to crazy
in, like, two seconds.
611
00:34:03,076 --> 00:34:06,415
He called me
all kinds of names
612
00:34:06,415 --> 00:34:08,419
and pushed me
through the door
613
00:34:08,419 --> 00:34:13,329
of his Orange Walk compound.
614
00:34:13,329 --> 00:34:15,133
I locked myself
in the lab,
615
00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:17,237
and I thought,
"He's dangerous."
616
00:34:17,237 --> 00:34:21,178
I started destroying
all the samples.
617
00:34:21,178 --> 00:34:23,249
And, um, you know,
any of the reagents
618
00:34:23,249 --> 00:34:26,288
that he could have used
against someone.
619
00:34:26,288 --> 00:34:30,000
And, um‐‐
620
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,130
And, um‐‐
621
00:34:30,130 --> 00:34:31,867
I emailed my dad.
I had just about,
622
00:34:31,867 --> 00:34:33,369
maybe, ten minutes
to do this.
623
00:34:33,369 --> 00:34:37,043
I emailed my dad,
and, um,
624
00:34:37,043 --> 00:34:39,949
bought a plane ticket home.
625
00:34:39,949 --> 00:34:42,722
And as soon as I, like,
hit send on that email,
626
00:34:42,722 --> 00:34:43,857
he cut the power.
627
00:34:43,857 --> 00:34:45,393
[electricity powering down]
628
00:34:45,393 --> 00:34:47,497
He cut the email
and he cut the power.
629
00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:52,708
He was pounding on the door.
630
00:34:52,708 --> 00:34:55,915
Mad, screaming,
just screaming.
631
00:34:55,915 --> 00:34:57,484
And he left.
632
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,632
And he got a gun.
633
00:35:04,632 --> 00:35:08,607
And he came back.
634
00:35:08,607 --> 00:35:11,045
I was hiding
beneath the benches.
635
00:35:13,851 --> 00:35:17,490
I'd made some friends
by that point.
636
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:19,228
And I texted my friends.
637
00:35:19,228 --> 00:35:24,004
And I said,
"Guys, you gotta come get me."
638
00:35:24,004 --> 00:35:25,708
Like, and he could have
broken in.
639
00:35:25,708 --> 00:35:27,210
He didn't.
I don't know if he went
640
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:28,580
back in the house
or what happened.
641
00:35:28,580 --> 00:35:30,000
But my friends came
to get me.
642
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,151
But my friends came
to get me.
643
00:35:34,525 --> 00:35:38,165
And they escorted me out.
644
00:35:38,165 --> 00:35:41,205
And hid me
at a relative's house.
645
00:35:41,205 --> 00:35:44,411
And, uh, took me to the plane
the next morning.
646
00:35:47,852 --> 00:35:51,392
When I first got home,
I contacted the FBI
647
00:35:51,392 --> 00:35:54,699
about what had happened to me
in Belize.
648
00:35:57,437 --> 00:36:00,000
Unfortunately, they have
649
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,043
Unfortunately, they have
650
00:36:00,043 --> 00:36:02,715
no jurisdiction in Belize.
651
00:36:02,715 --> 00:36:07,257
Um, so nothing could be done.
652
00:36:07,257 --> 00:36:09,394
I'm mad at myself
for not realizing
653
00:36:09,394 --> 00:36:12,902
who he was sooner.
654
00:36:12,902 --> 00:36:15,106
'Cause he's dangerous.
655
00:36:19,448 --> 00:36:23,389
♪♪♪
656
00:37:54,304 --> 00:37:56,809
[Tom] One morning,
John McAfee called me.
657
00:37:56,809 --> 00:38:00,000
And he said,
"I need to chastise this guy.
658
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,349
And he said,
"I need to chastise this guy.
659
00:38:00,349 --> 00:38:04,525
To teach him
a little respect."
660
00:38:04,525 --> 00:38:07,932
So John asked me
661
00:38:07,932 --> 00:38:10,504
if I could bring
three guys up here.
662
00:38:10,504 --> 00:38:14,612
Three bad, mean‐ass
looking guys.
663
00:38:14,612 --> 00:38:16,448
To slap him up a little
664
00:38:16,448 --> 00:38:20,389
and tell him,
"Be careful."
665
00:38:20,389 --> 00:38:22,661
So I did.
666
00:38:22,661 --> 00:38:24,030
[Nanette] Where did you
find them?
667
00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:25,399
[Tom] In a place called
George Street
668
00:38:25,399 --> 00:38:26,970
in Belize City.
669
00:38:30,009 --> 00:38:33,148
They were very much a part of
the bad boys of George Street.
670
00:38:35,887 --> 00:38:39,662
They were paid
3 grand, U. S.
671
00:38:39,662 --> 00:38:41,532
I brought them up
to Orange Walk.
672
00:38:41,532 --> 00:38:42,735
They knew what
they needed to do.
673
00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:45,206
I left them here.
674
00:38:45,206 --> 00:38:48,713
I recall seeing
a police officer
675
00:38:48,713 --> 00:38:50,951
at the roadway,
right at the barrier
676
00:38:50,951 --> 00:38:52,921
where the tollbooth is.
677
00:38:55,727 --> 00:38:57,631
Then John said,
"Oh, he's on our side.
678
00:38:57,631 --> 00:38:58,967
He's on our team."
679
00:39:12,995 --> 00:39:14,397
[dog barking]
680
00:39:36,943 --> 00:39:39,582
[Nanette] So did they beat him
up when they caught him?
681
00:40:12,948 --> 00:40:17,658
[Tom] He told me he wanted
to talk to the guy personally.
682
00:40:17,658 --> 00:40:20,530
I suggested to him
that that's not a good idea.
683
00:40:20,530 --> 00:40:22,734
He said, "No, I just want
to talk to him."
684
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:27,143
I think he wanted
to make his point, like,
685
00:40:27,143 --> 00:40:30,000
"Don't fuck with me."
686
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,984
"Don't fuck with me."
687
00:40:30,984 --> 00:40:33,656
Somehow they led him up
to the vehicle
688
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:35,760
and put him inside the vehicle
to talk to John
689
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,933
for about four
or five minutes.
690
00:40:38,933 --> 00:40:41,371
Then John drove off.
691
00:41:05,319 --> 00:41:07,256
[Nanette] David was taken
to the hospital.
692
00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:08,993
Police‐‐did they talk to him?
693
00:41:08,993 --> 00:41:10,664
[man] Yeah.
694
00:41:10,664 --> 00:41:13,503
[Nanette] So why
didn't he tell them?
695
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:27,063
David Middleton is still
clinging to life
696
00:41:27,063 --> 00:41:29,802
at the Karl Heusner
Memorial Hospital.
697
00:41:29,802 --> 00:41:30,000
He is still under coma.
698
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,872
He is still under coma.
699
00:41:31,872 --> 00:41:34,410
Before he slipped
into a coma,
700
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:37,216
Middleton told police
that he had been abducted,
701
00:41:37,216 --> 00:41:39,153
beaten, and stabbed by two men
702
00:41:39,153 --> 00:41:41,491
who came to his house
in Orange Walk.
703
00:41:41,491 --> 00:41:43,830
He says he did not know
either of the men,
704
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:45,734
who drove
a white pickup truck.
705
00:41:45,734 --> 00:41:48,606
He died on Friday
at the KHMH,
706
00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:51,846
and it is now
a murder investigation.
707
00:41:51,846 --> 00:41:54,785
And then he died.
708
00:41:54,785 --> 00:41:56,689
I said, "Oh, fuck."
709
00:41:59,193 --> 00:42:00,000
I had a vehicle
fit the description
710
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,832
I had a vehicle
fit the description
711
00:42:01,832 --> 00:42:04,437
of the one they said
this guy was picked up in.
712
00:42:04,437 --> 00:42:06,441
So I‐‐I got nervous, really.
713
00:42:06,441 --> 00:42:10,416
I was just waiting around
to see if an investigation's
714
00:42:10,416 --> 00:42:11,786
gonna happen,
if somebody's gonna
715
00:42:11,786 --> 00:42:13,388
show up at my door
and want me
716
00:42:13,388 --> 00:42:16,796
for questioning or something,
you know?
717
00:42:16,796 --> 00:42:20,069
I didn't sign up for that.
718
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:22,273
That's not what
I had in mind at all.
719
00:42:24,177 --> 00:42:26,247
[Nanette] I reached out
to David Middleton's family
720
00:42:26,247 --> 00:42:29,120
and they provided me
with pictures,
721
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,000
but they decided
not to be on camera.
722
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,326
but they decided
not to be on camera.
723
00:42:32,326 --> 00:42:35,934
They were afraid that it would
put their lives in danger.
724
00:42:35,934 --> 00:42:37,704
They told me that
when they tried to find out
725
00:42:37,704 --> 00:42:39,307
what happened to David,
726
00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,512
they were warned to stop
asking questions
727
00:42:41,512 --> 00:42:43,348
and to leave the country.
728
00:43:04,323 --> 00:43:08,131
They called him MAC‐10
729
00:43:08,131 --> 00:43:11,672
because when he pissed off,
what's what he use, a MAC‐10.
730
00:43:11,672 --> 00:43:14,310
speaking Spanish
731
00:43:46,407 --> 00:43:48,011
speaking Spanish
732
00:44:41,217 --> 00:44:43,321
I hear one was looking
for the other to kill him,
733
00:44:43,321 --> 00:44:46,327
and the other was looking for
the other to kill him, and‐‐
734
00:44:46,327 --> 00:44:48,599
But I also remember
John told me
735
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,770
that people who was
his enemies,
736
00:44:50,770 --> 00:44:52,473
who's out there
trying to harm him,
737
00:44:52,473 --> 00:44:54,611
he goes and hires them.
738
00:44:54,611 --> 00:44:57,684
Like, keep your enemy
as close as you can.
739
00:45:57,837 --> 00:46:00,000
From that time, you know,
I started working for him.
740
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,512
From that time, you know,
I started working for him.
741
00:46:04,618 --> 00:46:09,628
♪♪♪
742
00:46:22,554 --> 00:46:25,058
[Nanette] John's desire
to live without limits
743
00:46:25,058 --> 00:46:28,498
was extending into
every part of his life.
744
00:46:28,498 --> 00:46:30,000
♪ pensive music ♪
745
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,505
♪ pensive music ♪
746
00:46:31,505 --> 00:46:34,844
♪♪♪
747
00:46:34,844 --> 00:46:36,748
[John] I live a lifestyle
which might be
748
00:46:36,748 --> 00:46:39,521
over the line
of normal behavior.
749
00:46:39,521 --> 00:46:40,990
It's a lot of fun.
750
00:46:40,990 --> 00:46:42,092
I get to hang out
with cute girls
751
00:46:42,092 --> 00:46:44,363
who are scantily clad.
752
00:46:44,363 --> 00:46:45,866
I do have teenage girlfriends.
753
00:46:45,866 --> 00:46:47,670
And many at a time.
754
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:49,240
Nothing illegal.
755
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,377
They're well beyond
the age of consent.
756
00:46:51,377 --> 00:46:53,414
And I've‐‐I see
nothing wrong with it,
757
00:46:53,414 --> 00:46:55,452
and if you do,
then that's okay.
758
00:46:55,452 --> 00:46:58,424
[Nanette] How many girlfriends
did he have?
759
00:46:58,424 --> 00:47:00,000
Ooh.
[laughs]
760
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,863
Ooh.
[laughs]
761
00:47:00,863 --> 00:47:03,134
I can't keep count, um‐‐
762
00:47:03,134 --> 00:47:06,374
I would say at least
five or six girls, you know,
763
00:47:06,374 --> 00:47:10,315
that live in at the house.
764
00:47:10,315 --> 00:47:14,758
He was Belize's
Donald Trump. [laughs]
765
00:47:14,758 --> 00:47:17,764
This dog here,
I got him from John.
766
00:47:29,587 --> 00:47:30,000
♪ dreamy music ♪
767
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,593
♪ dreamy music ♪
768
00:47:32,593 --> 00:47:37,603
♪♪♪
769
00:47:47,489 --> 00:47:50,128
[Paz] Majority of John's
girlfriends,
770
00:47:50,128 --> 00:47:53,434
I was the one introduced John
with the girlfriends.
771
00:47:56,273 --> 00:47:59,012
[Shakira] Paz is who
introduced me to John.
772
00:47:59,012 --> 00:48:00,000
He'd tell me,
"Oh, there's a guy
773
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,117
He'd tell me,
"Oh, there's a guy
774
00:48:01,117 --> 00:48:04,189
who's paying
a lot of money
775
00:48:04,189 --> 00:48:06,060
just to sleep with him
one night."
776
00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:08,799
So I said,
"Well, okay."
777
00:48:11,303 --> 00:48:15,044
I used to get $900 per day.
778
00:48:15,044 --> 00:48:18,284
Yeah, John used to
pay me good.
779
00:48:18,284 --> 00:48:20,255
I needed the money, too,
at that time,
780
00:48:20,255 --> 00:48:22,058
'cause I had my baby girl.
781
00:48:22,058 --> 00:48:23,796
So I had to
buy things for her.
782
00:48:23,796 --> 00:48:27,469
And thank God my little girl
is growing up.
783
00:48:27,469 --> 00:48:29,339
[chuckles]
784
00:48:31,177 --> 00:48:34,249
I used to drive around
in a vehicle
785
00:48:34,249 --> 00:48:38,592
that John would offer me,
finding girls.
786
00:48:38,592 --> 00:48:42,332
Probably I introduced
35‐40 girls.
787
00:48:42,332 --> 00:48:43,702
Yeah.
788
00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:51,183
[Samantha] I was 18
when I met him.
789
00:48:51,183 --> 00:48:52,887
I fell out of school
because of
790
00:48:52,887 --> 00:48:55,559
the financial problems
of my parents.
791
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:57,964
That's why I went to his house
and asked for a job
792
00:48:57,964 --> 00:48:59,868
and I started working.
793
00:48:59,868 --> 00:49:00,000
♪♪♪
794
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,038
♪♪♪
795
00:49:02,038 --> 00:49:04,476
He started giving me,
like, presents
796
00:49:04,476 --> 00:49:07,015
a few days after we started
dating then.
797
00:49:07,015 --> 00:49:10,589
He treat me good,
so I started liking him.
798
00:49:10,589 --> 00:49:12,259
These were young women
799
00:49:12,259 --> 00:49:15,131
who had very challenging
life situations.
800
00:49:15,131 --> 00:49:17,770
They have horror stories
of what happened in their past.
801
00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:20,108
So he didn't need to say,
"Well, I'm going to pay them
802
00:49:20,108 --> 00:49:21,277
into prostitution."
803
00:49:21,277 --> 00:49:22,780
No, it wasn't that.
804
00:49:22,780 --> 00:49:25,786
It was simply,
here's a rich guy
805
00:49:25,786 --> 00:49:28,959
who is just willing
to take them in.
806
00:49:28,959 --> 00:49:30,000
Um, one morning,
807
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,896
Um, one morning,
808
00:49:30,896 --> 00:49:34,236
I was sleeping
in the bedroom
809
00:49:34,236 --> 00:49:38,512
and my stepfather came
and touched my private parts.
810
00:49:38,512 --> 00:49:41,016
I went to tell my mom,
my mom just cried.
811
00:49:41,016 --> 00:49:43,054
So I got fed up with it
812
00:49:43,054 --> 00:49:45,091
'cause she never believes.
813
00:49:45,091 --> 00:49:48,197
So I went, then he said,
"Get out of the house."
814
00:49:48,197 --> 00:49:49,901
So I packed my bag
and I went.
815
00:49:52,272 --> 00:49:54,376
I had to stop school.
816
00:49:54,376 --> 00:49:57,248
And that's when I got
to John McAfee.
817
00:49:57,248 --> 00:49:59,754
Then he gave me money
to go to school.
818
00:49:59,754 --> 00:50:00,000
Then after that
he start calling me,
819
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,260
Then after that
he start calling me,
820
00:50:03,260 --> 00:50:05,599
and asked me to go there,
and I told him okay,
821
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,268
it's not a problem.
822
00:50:07,268 --> 00:50:09,439
So I went there.
823
00:50:09,439 --> 00:50:11,276
And I sleep with him.
824
00:50:13,314 --> 00:50:15,753
John said, "You are not
the only girl.
825
00:50:15,753 --> 00:50:18,491
I have more than one
girls here.
826
00:50:18,491 --> 00:50:21,931
I don't want no fighting,
and I'll treat all the same."
827
00:50:21,931 --> 00:50:24,604
I was pretty young,
so I'd be like, "Okay."
828
00:50:27,008 --> 00:50:30,000
Everyone wanted to be
number one, you know?
829
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,014
Everyone wanted to be
number one, you know?
830
00:50:30,014 --> 00:50:32,987
And they were just
another number. [chuckles]
831
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:35,324
He treat me the best.
832
00:50:35,324 --> 00:50:38,965
He takes me out on lunch.
833
00:50:38,965 --> 00:50:43,608
He take us to San Pedro Town,
go shopping.
834
00:50:43,608 --> 00:50:45,979
John McAfee used to
treat me‐‐
835
00:50:45,979 --> 00:50:48,785
well, I say the best.
836
00:50:48,785 --> 00:50:50,354
He's always around me,
837
00:50:50,354 --> 00:50:53,962
and when they call him
he would just
838
00:50:53,962 --> 00:50:56,901
cut off his phone
'cause he's with me.
839
00:50:56,901 --> 00:50:59,807
He would spend most of the time
with me in the room.
840
00:50:59,807 --> 00:51:00,000
And he would bring me breakfast,
and, you know‐‐
841
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,212
And he would bring me breakfast,
and, you know‐‐
842
00:51:02,212 --> 00:51:04,650
He treated all the girls,
them, nice.
843
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:06,487
Tell them they're beautiful,
844
00:51:06,487 --> 00:51:10,929
and the right stuff
the girls wanna hear. [laughs]
845
00:51:10,929 --> 00:51:14,136
I think they'll stay there
for the money at first
846
00:51:14,136 --> 00:51:17,710
and then most of them,
eventually,
847
00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:22,152
had real,
true feelings for him.
848
00:51:22,152 --> 00:51:24,055
They're young, too.
849
00:51:24,055 --> 00:51:27,061
It was exciting for them,
living in this big house,
850
00:51:27,061 --> 00:51:30,000
and having trips and stuff
that they wouldn't normally
851
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,069
and having trips and stuff
that they wouldn't normally
852
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:34,376
would have if they didn't
meet Mr. John.
853
00:51:34,376 --> 00:51:37,248
[Nanette] Had you ever lived
like that before?
854
00:51:37,248 --> 00:51:38,484
No.
855
00:51:38,484 --> 00:51:40,087
[Nanette] Had you ever
856
00:51:40,087 --> 00:51:43,060
had sex for money
prior to that or‐‐
857
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,362
No.
858
00:51:44,362 --> 00:51:45,766
That was my first time.
859
00:51:45,766 --> 00:51:48,170
I was ashamed,
but then I got used to it.
860
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:49,941
[Nanette] What did he
have you do?
861
00:51:49,941 --> 00:51:52,613
Um, sit on this hammock,
862
00:51:52,613 --> 00:51:54,617
the hammock has a hole.
863
00:51:54,617 --> 00:51:57,388
He puts you in a hammock.
864
00:51:57,388 --> 00:52:00,000
Then after that he lies
under the hammock.
865
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,198
Then after that he lies
under the hammock.
866
00:52:02,198 --> 00:52:04,871
Then he, um‐‐
867
00:52:06,641 --> 00:52:08,210
You know, he would cut‐‐
868
00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:11,918
cut a little hole,
and he would sit there.
869
00:52:11,918 --> 00:52:13,020
[Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
870
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:15,424
That's what he use it for.
871
00:52:15,424 --> 00:52:18,430
'Cause he‐‐he wanted
to have, like,
872
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:22,405
scat sex then, and I didn't
agree with that.
873
00:52:22,405 --> 00:52:23,875
[Nanette] What is scat sex?
874
00:52:23,875 --> 00:52:27,348
It when you poop
in someone's mouth.
875
00:52:27,348 --> 00:52:30,000
He used to make you
shit in his mouth.
876
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,555
He used to make you
shit in his mouth.
877
00:52:30,555 --> 00:52:33,728
Like that.
[laughs]
878
00:52:33,728 --> 00:52:36,033
I never had done that before
879
00:52:36,033 --> 00:52:38,972
and it was an experience
for me, and‐‐
880
00:52:38,972 --> 00:52:43,982
He puts his in
under your butt and...
881
00:52:43,982 --> 00:52:48,123
he ask you to shit
in his mouth, and so‐‐
882
00:52:48,123 --> 00:52:51,163
[Nanette] Did he ever have
regular intercourse‐‐
883
00:52:51,163 --> 00:52:53,635
‐ like, vaginal intercourse?
‐ No, no.
884
00:52:53,635 --> 00:52:54,937
None of that.
885
00:52:54,937 --> 00:52:56,641
That was only thing I did.
886
00:52:58,912 --> 00:53:00,000
I think I was grateful,
887
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,181
I think I was grateful,
888
00:53:00,181 --> 00:53:02,953
because I wanted
to finish school.
889
00:53:02,953 --> 00:53:05,525
And, um, he was helping me.
890
00:53:05,525 --> 00:53:08,464
So I didn't care about
what he did.
891
00:53:08,464 --> 00:53:11,904
So, um, I was worrying about
finishing school
892
00:53:11,904 --> 00:53:14,877
and doing something
with my life.
893
00:53:14,877 --> 00:53:19,887
♪♪♪
894
00:53:52,385 --> 00:53:56,359
[John] When I moved
to the village of Carmelita,
895
00:53:56,359 --> 00:53:59,567
I decided I would try
to clean it up.
896
00:53:59,567 --> 00:54:00,000
And to do it legally,
897
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,571
And to do it legally,
898
00:54:01,571 --> 00:54:04,008
well, it makes sense
to hire off‐duty officers
899
00:54:04,008 --> 00:54:05,579
to collect information.
900
00:54:05,579 --> 00:54:06,981
And from that information,
901
00:54:06,981 --> 00:54:08,618
maybe they can go
and do something.
902
00:54:08,618 --> 00:54:11,156
And they did.
903
00:54:11,156 --> 00:54:13,661
I have an officer living
on my compound.
904
00:54:13,661 --> 00:54:16,366
It makes me feel safe.
Makes me feel safer
905
00:54:16,366 --> 00:54:18,938
to know that all the criminals
that might want to rob me
906
00:54:18,938 --> 00:54:20,876
know there's
a policeman living there.
907
00:54:20,876 --> 00:54:23,515
And they think there's
something wrong with that.
908
00:54:47,328 --> 00:54:48,665
[dogs barking]
909
00:54:55,912 --> 00:54:57,516
[imitates dog barking]
910
00:55:07,401 --> 00:55:09,372
♪♪♪
911
00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:13,146
[John] I was awoken
at 6:00 a. m. by a commotion.
912
00:55:13,146 --> 00:55:16,186
Megaphones and dogs barking
and people yelling.
913
00:55:16,186 --> 00:55:20,227
And I went outside
and saw 42 soldiers
914
00:55:20,227 --> 00:55:22,699
in attack formation,
coming down the driveway
915
00:55:22,699 --> 00:55:24,369
with automatic weapons.
916
00:55:42,906 --> 00:55:44,242
[man] Load!
917
00:55:44,242 --> 00:55:45,712
[Nanette] What's the GSU?
918
00:55:53,728 --> 00:55:55,632
[Mark] I would like to think
that they are
919
00:55:55,632 --> 00:55:58,838
this specialist
group of police officers
920
00:55:58,838 --> 00:56:00,000
who pride themselves
as being incorruptible.
921
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,144
who pride themselves
as being incorruptible.
922
00:56:02,144 --> 00:56:04,415
[man] Make weapon ready!
[guns cocking]
923
00:56:04,415 --> 00:56:06,119
[Daniel]
They are special forces.
924
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,292
The maximum military thing
that the country has.
925
00:56:09,292 --> 00:56:11,096
Because if you think
you get away
926
00:56:11,096 --> 00:56:13,367
with the police, okay, fine.
927
00:56:13,367 --> 00:56:14,970
These guys, they don't come
to play with you.
928
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:16,373
These guys are coming for you.
929
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:18,611
[men shouting]
930
00:56:47,034 --> 00:56:48,538
[John] I'm pushed up
against the wall.
931
00:56:48,538 --> 00:56:51,476
Handcuffed, searched.
932
00:56:51,476 --> 00:56:53,213
They show me a warrant.
I didn't get a chance
933
00:56:53,213 --> 00:56:54,817
to read it.
934
00:56:54,817 --> 00:56:57,656
I spent the next 14 hours
handcuffed.
935
00:56:57,656 --> 00:57:00,000
[Nanette] Why did the GSU decide
to raid McAfee's compound?
936
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,964
[Nanette] Why did the GSU decide
to raid McAfee's compound?
937
00:57:01,964 --> 00:57:04,903
Intelligence at the time
suggested that McAfee
938
00:57:04,903 --> 00:57:06,674
was mass‐producing narcotics
939
00:57:06,674 --> 00:57:09,646
or some
psychotropical substance
940
00:57:09,646 --> 00:57:11,951
that he was offering
for sale, unrivaled.
941
00:57:11,951 --> 00:57:13,186
[Nanette] What did they find?
942
00:57:13,186 --> 00:57:14,990
What did you guys find,
exactly?
943
00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:18,764
[Mark] Besides the arms
and the amount of security,
944
00:57:18,764 --> 00:57:23,774
there was some blocks
of something
945
00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:25,812
that he was producing
that resembled
946
00:57:25,812 --> 00:57:27,849
methamphetamine or cocaine.
947
00:57:27,849 --> 00:57:30,000
It was built like that.
It was produced like that.
948
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,287
It was built like that.
It was produced like that.
949
00:57:30,287 --> 00:57:32,458
But when tested,
it did not in fact
950
00:57:32,458 --> 00:57:34,195
reveal the properties
951
00:57:34,195 --> 00:57:37,067
that would have
rendered him liable
952
00:57:37,067 --> 00:57:38,871
for criminal prosecution.
953
00:57:41,175 --> 00:57:42,712
[John] They took me
to Belize City.
954
00:57:42,712 --> 00:57:44,883
They charged me
with having one firearm
955
00:57:44,883 --> 00:57:46,720
without a license.
956
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,492
It took the intervention
of the U. S. embassy
957
00:57:49,492 --> 00:57:52,197
to get me out.
958
00:57:52,197 --> 00:57:54,603
They were planning
on trying to find a way
959
00:57:54,603 --> 00:57:56,874
to charge me for having
an unlicensed lab.
960
00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:58,611
The lab was shut down
18 months ago.
961
00:57:58,611 --> 00:58:00,000
Even if I did need a license,
962
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,047
Even if I did need a license,
963
00:58:00,047 --> 00:58:02,619
it's no longer relevant.
964
00:58:02,619 --> 00:58:04,656
McAfee says he's a victim
965
00:58:04,656 --> 00:58:06,527
because he didn't
donate money
966
00:58:06,527 --> 00:58:09,833
to a known UDP
Orange Walk politician.
967
00:58:09,833 --> 00:58:13,239
[John] A representative of the
government came by and said,
968
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,346
"Why don't you donate
$2 million to the party?"
969
00:58:16,346 --> 00:58:18,751
I said, "Get the fuck
off my property."
970
00:58:18,751 --> 00:58:23,326
A week later, 42 armed soldiers
stormed my compound.
971
00:58:23,326 --> 00:58:25,932
And I'm just sitting down
with Reuters News.
972
00:58:25,932 --> 00:58:28,571
So now I'm going public
with this.
973
00:58:28,571 --> 00:58:30,000
And so I went I went
to the world press.
974
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,440
And so I went I went
to the world press.
975
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,714
And now I'm a danger
to the government.
976
00:58:33,714 --> 00:58:35,852
They talk about murdering me.
977
00:58:35,852 --> 00:58:38,557
They talk about murdering
all my cohorts and friends.
978
00:58:38,557 --> 00:58:41,062
They talk about
planting drugs and guns.
979
00:58:41,062 --> 00:58:42,632
I was terrified now
980
00:58:42,632 --> 00:58:44,870
that they were coming for me.
981
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:49,880
♪♪♪
982
00:59:05,778 --> 00:59:07,414
[Cassian laughs]
983
00:59:42,184 --> 00:59:47,194
♪♪♪
984
01:00:15,183 --> 01:00:17,054
When he came back,
985
01:00:17,054 --> 01:00:20,227
then he brought the entourage
of all the bodyguards,
986
01:00:20,227 --> 01:00:22,932
all of the prostitutes
and girls that were with him.
987
01:00:25,370 --> 01:00:27,441
To see somebody
on a tourist beach,
988
01:00:27,441 --> 01:00:30,000
and they have two or three
armed guards,
989
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,948
and they have two or three
armed guards,
990
01:00:30,948 --> 01:00:32,685
that's very intimidating
991
01:00:32,685 --> 01:00:34,956
to the tourists
as well as the locals.
992
01:00:34,956 --> 01:00:37,361
It disturbed the locals
quite a bit.
993
01:00:37,361 --> 01:00:41,102
McAfee had a reputation
in the neighborhood.
994
01:00:42,705 --> 01:00:45,745
Greg said he's just
a rich American
995
01:00:45,745 --> 01:00:49,318
and he's just terrorizing
the neighborhood.
996
01:00:49,318 --> 01:00:52,926
Greg was very vocal
of not liking McAfee
997
01:00:52,926 --> 01:00:55,263
and I heard from other people
998
01:00:55,263 --> 01:00:57,334
that McAfee didn't like Greg.
999
01:00:59,071 --> 01:01:00,000
I think he lived
600 feet south
1000
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,942
I think he lived
600 feet south
1001
01:01:00,942 --> 01:01:03,948
of John McAfee on the beach.
1002
01:01:03,948 --> 01:01:06,185
Gregory Faull,
he came to retire in Belize,
1003
01:01:06,185 --> 01:01:08,557
and because he was
into construction,
1004
01:01:08,557 --> 01:01:10,393
he was going to build
and sell homes
1005
01:01:10,393 --> 01:01:11,863
and that's how
he was surviving.
1006
01:01:11,863 --> 01:01:13,701
So this was
a hard‐working man.
1007
01:01:15,403 --> 01:01:17,140
[Eddie]
Greg, he always told me,
1008
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:19,612
"You know, I love to walk
from my house
1009
01:01:19,612 --> 01:01:21,616
down the beach
to Rojo Lounge.
1010
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:27,160
To go to eat and have
a few drinks."
1011
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,000
He says, "But McAfee
has armed guards on the beach.
1012
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,803
He says, "But McAfee
has armed guards on the beach.
1013
01:01:31,803 --> 01:01:34,676
Not one.
Several.
1014
01:01:34,676 --> 01:01:38,650
Including some mean dogs."
1015
01:01:38,650 --> 01:01:42,692
[Tamara] His dogs ran loose
on the beach
1016
01:01:42,692 --> 01:01:45,296
and they were
really ferocious dogs.
1017
01:01:45,296 --> 01:01:47,635
And I even remember
walking by there one time
1018
01:01:47,635 --> 01:01:50,006
and these dogs were just‐‐
1019
01:01:50,006 --> 01:01:51,710
really lay into you.
1020
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:53,947
[dog barks]
1021
01:01:53,947 --> 01:01:56,987
Greg went to McAfee's house.
1022
01:01:56,987 --> 01:01:58,791
[dog barks]
1023
01:01:58,791 --> 01:02:00,000
And said, "John, you gotta
take care of these dogs.
1024
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,128
And said, "John, you gotta
take care of these dogs.
1025
01:02:01,128 --> 01:02:03,032
They're disturbing
the neighborhood."
1026
01:02:03,032 --> 01:02:05,805
And John reached over
to one side
1027
01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:07,909
and came back
with a 12‐gauge shotgun,
1028
01:02:07,909 --> 01:02:10,514
cycled the shotgun,
says, "Get off my property
1029
01:02:10,514 --> 01:02:12,284
or I'll shoot your ass."
1030
01:02:15,023 --> 01:02:17,027
[Eddie] Greg came to me
and he says,
1031
01:02:17,027 --> 01:02:18,864
"Eddie, I got this problem
1032
01:02:18,864 --> 01:02:21,168
that is not going
to go away."
1033
01:02:21,168 --> 01:02:24,609
So I told him, "This is not
something to play with.
1034
01:02:24,609 --> 01:02:28,049
Go to the police.
Make a report."
1035
01:02:29,953 --> 01:02:30,000
[Daniel] Greg did put a
complaint against John's dogs.
1036
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,527
[Daniel] Greg did put a
complaint against John's dogs.
1037
01:02:33,527 --> 01:02:35,998
And I did respond to Greg.
1038
01:02:35,998 --> 01:02:38,035
[dog barks]
1039
01:02:38,035 --> 01:02:40,373
[Eddie] The Mayor says,
"I've talked to the police
1040
01:02:40,373 --> 01:02:42,244
to go up there
and deal with it,"
1041
01:02:42,244 --> 01:02:43,881
but that didn't change him.
1042
01:02:43,881 --> 01:02:45,651
Why would it change a man
1043
01:02:45,651 --> 01:02:48,724
who is buttering the police
1044
01:02:48,724 --> 01:02:53,667
with Tasers, with vehicle,
with guns?
1045
01:02:53,667 --> 01:02:57,073
[Tamara] Greg Faull had
had it with those dogs,
1046
01:02:57,073 --> 01:02:59,612
and said,
"I'm gonna poison those dogs."
1047
01:03:01,583 --> 01:03:05,056
A day later,
John's dogs were poisoned.
1048
01:03:07,628 --> 01:03:10,634
About 12 in the night,
one of the security came
1049
01:03:10,634 --> 01:03:12,404
and said that the dogs
1050
01:03:12,404 --> 01:03:14,474
is foaming through their mouth.
1051
01:03:14,474 --> 01:03:16,746
So he went
and he saw the dog.
1052
01:03:16,746 --> 01:03:19,418
And then he said, you know,
"The dogs have been poisoned."
1053
01:03:19,418 --> 01:03:20,688
That's what he said.
1054
01:03:20,688 --> 01:03:22,057
The first thing
came in his mind
1055
01:03:22,057 --> 01:03:24,696
was that it was his neighbor.
1056
01:03:24,696 --> 01:03:27,334
‐ [Nanette] Greg?
‐ Mm, Gregory Faull.
1057
01:03:27,334 --> 01:03:30,000
♪♪♪
1058
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,075
♪♪♪
1059
01:03:31,075 --> 01:03:32,778
He got his shotgun.
1060
01:03:32,778 --> 01:03:33,947
And I said,
"What are you gonna do?"
1061
01:03:33,947 --> 01:03:35,250
And he said he is gonna take
1062
01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:37,722
the dog out of their misery.
1063
01:03:37,722 --> 01:03:39,559
And then he started crying.
1064
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:42,297
I never saw him cry
until that day.
1065
01:03:42,297 --> 01:03:44,802
And, um, he went to the dogs
1066
01:03:44,802 --> 01:03:47,073
and he shot the dogs.
1067
01:03:47,073 --> 01:03:49,211
[Marcia] He was walking, like,
from one side of the room
1068
01:03:49,211 --> 01:03:51,048
to the other side.
1069
01:03:51,048 --> 01:03:52,618
While he was walking,
he was smoking
1070
01:03:52,618 --> 01:03:54,388
cigarette after cigarette,
1071
01:03:54,388 --> 01:03:56,826
cigarette after cigarette,
cigarette after cigarette.
1072
01:04:00,166 --> 01:04:03,005
He said, "I wonder
if it's Greg Faull
1073
01:04:03,005 --> 01:04:05,009
that poisoned my dogs."
1074
01:04:21,208 --> 01:04:22,645
You know?
1075
01:04:42,350 --> 01:04:44,154
[man] Oh, look.
Look who's here.
1076
01:04:44,154 --> 01:04:45,858
‐ [man] Nice to see you, man.
‐ [man] Oh, how are you?
1077
01:05:03,527 --> 01:05:06,298
[Eddie] He left me a message
that night,
1078
01:05:06,298 --> 01:05:09,070
saying that, "There's somebody
in my yard."
1079
01:05:09,070 --> 01:05:10,741
[bird chirping]
1080
01:05:12,310 --> 01:05:14,414
And I said,
"Do you want me to come up?"
1081
01:05:14,414 --> 01:05:15,751
"No, no," he says.
"It's okay.
1082
01:05:15,751 --> 01:05:18,422
I just wanted you to know."
1083
01:05:18,422 --> 01:05:22,263
He was nervous,
that's why he called me.
1084
01:05:22,263 --> 01:05:25,503
He says, um,
"I don't feel good about it."
1085
01:05:25,503 --> 01:05:27,307
[water splashing]
1086
01:05:27,307 --> 01:05:29,110
[wood pounding]
1087
01:05:29,110 --> 01:05:30,000
‐ [gunshot]
‐ [bird squawks]
1088
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,781
‐ [gunshot]
‐ [bird squawks]
1089
01:05:32,685 --> 01:05:37,661
The next day,
Mr. Faull was found dead.
1090
01:05:38,897 --> 01:05:40,701
[seagulls squawking]
1091
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:47,515
[Eddie] In the morning, early,
my nephew, Finn,
1092
01:05:47,515 --> 01:05:49,017
calls me and he says,
1093
01:05:49,017 --> 01:05:51,021
"Tio, have you heard?"
1094
01:05:51,021 --> 01:05:53,325
I said, "Heard what, Finn?"
1095
01:05:53,325 --> 01:05:56,933
He says, "Greg is dead."
I says, "Oh, shit."
1096
01:06:01,174 --> 01:06:03,412
I still can't believe it.
1097
01:06:37,246 --> 01:06:41,121
[Tamara] There's no sign
of burglary.
1098
01:06:41,121 --> 01:06:42,858
Nothing was missing.
1099
01:06:42,858 --> 01:06:45,530
The place wasn't ransacked.
1100
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:49,104
It just appeared that he had
basically been executed.
1101
01:06:59,558 --> 01:07:00,000
[Nanette] And were there any
other marks on his body?
1102
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,063
[Nanette] And were there any
other marks on his body?
1103
01:07:07,841 --> 01:07:12,618
His whole body
covered in Taser marks,
1104
01:07:12,618 --> 01:07:16,358
which were not necessary.
1105
01:07:23,272 --> 01:07:27,413
[Art] Sometimes I have visions
of what happens
1106
01:07:27,413 --> 01:07:30,000
when you get shot
in the head.
1107
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,455
when you get shot
in the head.
1108
01:07:31,455 --> 01:07:35,664
And I just can't believe
it ever happened to my son.
1109
01:07:37,433 --> 01:07:38,636
[Nanette] Why were you looking
for John?
1110
01:07:38,636 --> 01:07:40,005
Well, because...
1111
01:08:05,389 --> 01:08:06,826
Yeah.
1112
01:08:22,256 --> 01:08:24,160
[man] A murder in paradise.
1113
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,864
Police launch
a full‐scale search
1114
01:08:25,864 --> 01:08:28,703
for an eccentric American
tycoon, John McAfee.
1115
01:08:28,703 --> 01:08:30,000
Some breaking news
from Belize.
1116
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,005
Some breaking news
from Belize.
1117
01:08:30,005 --> 01:08:31,642
John McAfee, who's been
on the run‐‐
1118
01:08:31,642 --> 01:08:33,378
[man] John McAfee is a person
of interest
1119
01:08:33,378 --> 01:08:35,216
in the murder of his neighbor.
1120
01:08:35,216 --> 01:08:37,353
Tech mogul at the center of an
international murder mystery.
1121
01:08:37,353 --> 01:08:39,290
Tonight, McAfee is being hunted
for questioning
1122
01:08:39,290 --> 01:08:41,394
in the murder of his neighbor.
1123
01:08:41,394 --> 01:08:45,202
[Daniel] We had CNN in English,
we had CNN in Spanish,
1124
01:08:45,202 --> 01:08:48,075
NBC, ABC, the whole alphabet.
1125
01:08:48,075 --> 01:08:49,678
If you're fearing
for your safety,
1126
01:08:49,678 --> 01:08:51,816
why not just go in and tell them
what you don't know
1127
01:08:51,816 --> 01:08:53,753
‐ about this murder?
‐ [John] If I am detained,
1128
01:08:53,753 --> 01:08:55,991
this is where people
just simply disappear.
1129
01:08:55,991 --> 01:08:58,328
They choke on their own vomit
or hang themselves
1130
01:08:58,328 --> 01:09:00,000
or are beaten to death
by fellow prisoners.
1131
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:00,432
or are beaten to death
by fellow prisoners.
1132
01:09:00,432 --> 01:09:02,069
[Samantha] John sent me a text
and said,
1133
01:09:02,069 --> 01:09:03,907
"We have to move."
1134
01:09:03,907 --> 01:09:06,946
And I went to take out money
from John's account.
1135
01:09:06,946 --> 01:09:08,883
$2,000.
1136
01:09:08,883 --> 01:09:13,559
And I took it where he was
hiding at the boat place.
1137
01:09:13,559 --> 01:09:15,964
[Tom] Two days after
the Greg Faull thing,
1138
01:09:15,964 --> 01:09:18,870
John calls me and says,
"I need you to keep me safe
1139
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:21,207
and get me
out of the country alive."
1140
01:09:21,207 --> 01:09:26,217
♪♪♪
1141
01:09:49,865 --> 01:09:53,405
We went to, like,
a Chinese place,
1142
01:09:53,405 --> 01:09:55,309
where he started
painting his hair
1143
01:09:55,309 --> 01:09:57,914
and that's where
Tom took us.
1144
01:10:00,553 --> 01:10:02,390
I had some sleepless nights
1145
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:04,494
because I'd have to get up
and move him
1146
01:10:04,494 --> 01:10:06,498
to another location.
1147
01:10:09,404 --> 01:10:13,780
Then I start
meeting journalists.
1148
01:10:13,780 --> 01:10:15,784
[Samantha] He, um,
contacted the press
1149
01:10:15,784 --> 01:10:18,455
'cause he said he wanted
to clear
1150
01:10:18,455 --> 01:10:21,461
his side of the story
and why he is on the run.
1151
01:10:21,461 --> 01:10:22,798
The search to find John McAfee
1152
01:10:22,798 --> 01:10:24,300
began right here
at the airport,
1153
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:26,471
not long after I landed.
1154
01:10:26,471 --> 01:10:28,008
And it began
with three simple words.
1155
01:10:28,008 --> 01:10:29,210
"Sorry, I'm late."
1156
01:10:29,210 --> 01:10:30,000
A prearranged code word
to let me know
1157
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,014
A prearranged code word
to let me know
1158
01:10:31,014 --> 01:10:33,218
I'd met the person who would
take me to McAfee.
1159
01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:37,794
[Martin]
And so we get in this cab
1160
01:10:37,794 --> 01:10:41,969
and take off on just a crazy
drive through Belize City.
1161
01:10:47,179 --> 01:10:49,016
It was like a bad movie.
1162
01:10:49,016 --> 01:10:51,856
We were doing, you know,
switchbacks and turnarounds
1163
01:10:51,856 --> 01:10:54,026
and then it's like,
"Get out! Get out!"
1164
01:10:54,026 --> 01:10:56,164
And then we‐‐he's like,
"No, get in there!"
1165
01:10:56,164 --> 01:10:59,403
And it's another cab we get in.
[laughs]
1166
01:10:59,403 --> 01:11:00,000
It's not the Belize you see
in the travel pictures.
1167
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,709
It's not the Belize you see
in the travel pictures.
1168
01:11:01,709 --> 01:11:03,779
You know, this is not
the pretty part.
1169
01:11:03,779 --> 01:11:07,019
And then eventually,
we stop in the parking lot
1170
01:11:07,019 --> 01:11:10,325
of a really
low‐rent looking hotel.
1171
01:11:10,325 --> 01:11:12,463
When we finally got
to John McAfee,
1172
01:11:12,463 --> 01:11:15,068
he's wearing
an outlandish disguise.
1173
01:11:15,068 --> 01:11:17,507
Kind of like an old man
with a crippled arm,
1174
01:11:17,507 --> 01:11:20,412
powder in his hair
to make himself look old.
1175
01:11:20,412 --> 01:11:21,982
And he's walking with a cane.
1176
01:11:21,982 --> 01:11:24,487
John McAfee
is coming towards us.
1177
01:11:24,487 --> 01:11:25,723
Only it wasn't John McAfee.
1178
01:11:25,723 --> 01:11:27,527
It was John McAfee in really‐‐
1179
01:11:27,527 --> 01:11:30,000
in a really bad disguise.
1180
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,900
in a really bad disguise.
1181
01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:34,373
We all knew
it was John McAfee.
1182
01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:37,346
But your problem is that you
really wanna talk to him,
1183
01:11:37,346 --> 01:11:38,883
and I'm afraid that if I say,
1184
01:11:38,883 --> 01:11:40,920
"Hey John, how you doing?"
1185
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,358
he's going to explode
and‐‐and storm off,
1186
01:11:43,358 --> 01:11:46,932
and our opportunity
to interview him would be lost.
1187
01:11:46,932 --> 01:11:49,103
So we did what we thought
was the prudent thing to do,
1188
01:11:49,103 --> 01:11:52,978
and that was ignore him.
1189
01:11:52,978 --> 01:11:55,415
We get up to his hotel room.
1190
01:11:55,415 --> 01:11:58,121
And 20 seconds later,
he bursts into the room.
1191
01:11:58,121 --> 01:12:00,000
And the shawl he had over his
shoulders, he flings off.
1192
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:00,760
And the shawl he had over his
shoulders, he flings off.
1193
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,233
And he shakes his hair
of all this powder.
1194
01:12:04,233 --> 01:12:06,404
"Fooled you, didn't I?"
1195
01:12:06,404 --> 01:12:09,010
And, of course,
you're like, "Yeah.
1196
01:12:09,010 --> 01:12:10,747
You sure did."
1197
01:12:10,747 --> 01:12:13,218
And then, there we were.
1198
01:12:13,218 --> 01:12:14,855
Face to face.
1199
01:12:14,855 --> 01:12:17,393
[Martin]
Did you kill Greg Faull?
1200
01:12:17,393 --> 01:12:19,698
I barely knew the man.
And why would I kill him?
1201
01:12:19,698 --> 01:12:22,202
He was a neighbor that lived
200 yards down the beach.
1202
01:12:22,202 --> 01:12:24,307
[Martin] Do you really believe
that this is a vendetta
1203
01:12:24,307 --> 01:12:26,444
by the government of Belize
1204
01:12:26,444 --> 01:12:29,283
‐ to take you down and kill you?
‐ Absolutely, sir.
1205
01:12:29,283 --> 01:12:30,000
You're sincerely concerned
that if you somehow wind up
1206
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,824
You're sincerely concerned
that if you somehow wind up
1207
01:12:32,824 --> 01:12:34,327
in their custody, they're going
to assassinate you?
1208
01:12:34,327 --> 01:12:36,064
[John] Absolutely.
1209
01:12:36,064 --> 01:12:37,834
[man] Do you really think
they would kill you?
1210
01:12:37,834 --> 01:12:39,503
[John] Absolutely, I do, sir.
1211
01:12:39,503 --> 01:12:41,441
[Art] It was all about McAfee.
1212
01:12:41,441 --> 01:12:43,011
Everything that we've ever seen
1213
01:12:43,011 --> 01:12:45,583
was McAfee, McAfee, McAfee,
1214
01:12:45,583 --> 01:12:47,252
who murdered
an American businessman.
1215
01:12:47,252 --> 01:12:49,457
McAfee who did this,
McAfee who did that.
1216
01:12:49,457 --> 01:12:52,697
But there wasn't very much,
1217
01:12:52,697 --> 01:12:55,803
uh, publicity for my son.
1218
01:12:55,803 --> 01:12:59,511
McAfee found a way
to keep the attention on him.
1219
01:13:01,214 --> 01:13:04,153
We have a President,
a Prime Minister,
1220
01:13:04,153 --> 01:13:06,290
you have the Mayor of San Pedro,
1221
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:09,263
the Minister of Tourism,
1222
01:13:09,263 --> 01:13:10,733
all giving interviews
1223
01:13:10,733 --> 01:13:12,804
about a man who's just
bat‐shit crazy.
1224
01:13:12,804 --> 01:13:13,939
Well, I've never met the man.
1225
01:13:13,939 --> 01:13:16,144
Don't know what
he looks like.
1226
01:13:16,144 --> 01:13:18,816
Uh, I don't want
to be unkind,
1227
01:13:18,816 --> 01:13:22,256
but it strikes me
that he's extremely paranoid.
1228
01:13:22,256 --> 01:13:24,661
In fact, I would go so far
as to say bonkers.
1229
01:13:31,307 --> 01:13:34,447
[Tom] By then, everybody know
who is John McAfee.
1230
01:13:34,447 --> 01:13:36,952
I couldn't hide him no more.
1231
01:13:36,952 --> 01:13:39,558
So we drove
to the southernmost border
1232
01:13:39,558 --> 01:13:41,227
with Guatemala.
1233
01:13:41,227 --> 01:13:44,801
It's 200 miles south
of Belize City.
1234
01:13:44,801 --> 01:13:47,507
He saw me bullshit my way
through many checkpoints
1235
01:13:47,507 --> 01:13:50,212
in the time we knew each other.
1236
01:13:50,212 --> 01:13:52,182
He knew I could get him out.
1237
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:57,594
[Nanette] So how did you
get him out of the country?
1238
01:13:57,594 --> 01:13:59,230
I‐‐we just put him on a boat
1239
01:13:59,230 --> 01:14:00,000
and dump him on land
in Guatemala.
1240
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,067
and dump him on land
in Guatemala.
1241
01:14:01,067 --> 01:14:04,941
We didn't‐‐no customs,
no immigration, no nothing.
1242
01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:06,277
That's illegal.
1243
01:14:09,818 --> 01:14:13,324
I told him I could've gotten
his passport legally stamped
1244
01:14:13,324 --> 01:14:17,667
in a place called
Puerto Barrios.
1245
01:14:17,667 --> 01:14:20,640
But once he knew he was
getting out in a boat,
1246
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,177
he took complete control.
1247
01:14:23,177 --> 01:14:24,881
He's John again.
1248
01:14:24,881 --> 01:14:27,219
He does what he wants to do.
1249
01:14:27,219 --> 01:14:30,000
All my advice to him never
really mattered anymore.
1250
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,027
All my advice to him never
really mattered anymore.
1251
01:14:31,027 --> 01:14:34,266
He's John McAfee now.
1252
01:14:34,266 --> 01:14:36,538
The great escape.
[laughs]
1253
01:14:36,538 --> 01:14:41,548
♪♪♪
1254
01:14:45,523 --> 01:14:47,259
[John] I could walk into
the police station,
1255
01:14:47,259 --> 01:14:49,430
ask directions, and they would
give me directions.
1256
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:51,535
[Jose] VICE TV followed him
1257
01:14:51,535 --> 01:14:53,639
and they just decide to take
a picture with the iPhone.
1258
01:14:55,710 --> 01:14:57,714
[Samantha]
They found out his location.
1259
01:14:57,714 --> 01:14:59,116
[Nanette]
How did that happen?
1260
01:14:59,116 --> 01:15:00,000
With some picture
that VICE took with GPS
1261
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,055
With some picture
that VICE took with GPS
1262
01:15:02,055 --> 01:15:04,961
where it was on
or something like that.
1263
01:15:04,961 --> 01:15:07,900
[Jose] You know, you had VICE TV
posting that picture
1264
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:10,038
that does give away
his location.
1265
01:15:10,038 --> 01:15:12,042
He was undone by that
in Guatemala.
1266
01:15:12,042 --> 01:15:14,881
You know, the tech guy.
Who would have thunk?
1267
01:15:14,881 --> 01:15:17,119
Now he's in trouble
with Guatemala
1268
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:19,858
by entering the country
illegally.
1269
01:15:19,858 --> 01:15:21,360
That's when I told him,
you know,
1270
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,400
"I have an uncle
who could help you.
1271
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,571
I think he could be your lawyer
1272
01:15:26,571 --> 01:15:29,644
and take you out of
the country if you want."
1273
01:15:29,644 --> 01:15:30,000
[woman] McAfee, who is wanted
for questioning
1274
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,581
[woman] McAfee, who is wanted
for questioning
1275
01:15:31,581 --> 01:15:33,284
in connection
with a murder in Belize,
1276
01:15:33,284 --> 01:15:35,956
says he will be seeking
asylum in Guatemala
1277
01:15:35,956 --> 01:15:38,762
and has retained high‐profile
Guatemalan attorney
1278
01:15:38,762 --> 01:15:42,570
and former attorney general
Telésforo Guerra.
1279
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:44,841
[Nanette] So when he was
in Guatemala,
1280
01:15:44,841 --> 01:15:47,412
was he still considered
a suspect, or was he‐‐
1281
01:15:50,318 --> 01:15:52,255
[Nanette] So you tried
to have him extradited?
1282
01:15:57,032 --> 01:16:00,000
[Nanette] Interpol discovered
John's exact location.
1283
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,205
[Nanette] Interpol discovered
John's exact location.
1284
01:16:00,205 --> 01:16:03,444
And VICE was the only camera
crew to capture his arrest.
1285
01:16:03,444 --> 01:16:05,315
‐ [man] What's the problem?
‐ They're trying to arrest me
1286
01:16:05,315 --> 01:16:07,052
for coming into the country
illegally.
1287
01:16:07,052 --> 01:16:09,289
Can't they take me back
to Belize tonight?
1288
01:16:09,289 --> 01:16:11,060
‐ No, never. Never, never.
‐ Are you sure?
1289
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,930
Can you promise me, sir?
Because I'm not worried
1290
01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:14,466
‐ about anything else.
‐ Of course, they won't
1291
01:16:14,466 --> 01:16:17,105
take you to Belize, no.
Never, never.
1292
01:16:17,105 --> 01:16:18,274
[Telésforo]
I will go with you.
1293
01:16:18,274 --> 01:16:20,111
[man] Whoa, whoa, wait.
1294
01:16:20,111 --> 01:16:22,249
[woman]
"Thank God I'm in a place
1295
01:16:22,249 --> 01:16:24,788
where there is some sanity."
1296
01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:29,029
Those were the words John McAfee
said before being arrested
1297
01:16:29,029 --> 01:16:30,000
in Guatemala City
on Wednesday night
1298
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,668
in Guatemala City
on Wednesday night
1299
01:16:31,668 --> 01:16:33,705
for illegal entry.
1300
01:16:36,978 --> 01:16:39,884
[John] I was put in jail,
and the following morning,
1301
01:16:39,884 --> 01:16:42,289
they were intending
to deport me
1302
01:16:42,289 --> 01:16:44,694
back to Belize.
1303
01:16:46,565 --> 01:16:48,702
My lawyer came to my cell.
1304
01:16:48,702 --> 01:16:52,577
"He said, I cannot file
an appeal until three o'clock.
1305
01:16:52,577 --> 01:16:55,916
So until three,
they can deport you."
1306
01:16:55,916 --> 01:16:57,854
He said,
"Do you understand?"
1307
01:16:57,854 --> 01:17:00,000
I go, "Yes,
I understand fully."
1308
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,491
I go, "Yes,
I understand fully."
1309
01:17:00,491 --> 01:17:03,030
[man] Within sight
of the assembled cameras,
1310
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:05,870
John McAfee suddenly swooned,
1311
01:17:05,870 --> 01:17:07,807
and appeared
to lose consciousness.
1312
01:17:07,807 --> 01:17:09,376
[sirens wail]
1313
01:17:09,376 --> 01:17:11,948
[John] So I chose to fake
a heart attack.
1314
01:17:11,948 --> 01:17:14,152
[man] John McAfee
was rushed to a hospital,
1315
01:17:14,152 --> 01:17:15,723
complaining of chest pains.
1316
01:17:15,723 --> 01:17:17,325
[woman] Quite a scene
was created,
1317
01:17:17,325 --> 01:17:18,862
as an ambulance took him
1318
01:17:18,862 --> 01:17:21,066
from an immigration
detention center.
1319
01:17:21,066 --> 01:17:24,006
[John] They took me to
the hospital at three o'clock,
1320
01:17:24,006 --> 01:17:26,410
when I knew the appeal
had been filed.
1321
01:17:26,410 --> 01:17:29,049
I said, "I feel better.
I wanna go back to prison,
1322
01:17:29,049 --> 01:17:30,000
to my cell, thank you."
1323
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,986
to my cell, thank you."
1324
01:17:30,986 --> 01:17:33,825
And that's what they did.
1325
01:17:33,825 --> 01:17:36,598
And an appeal meant
that it would be
1326
01:17:36,598 --> 01:17:40,071
15 years before they could
deport me back to Belize.
1327
01:17:40,071 --> 01:17:43,679
Well, it was not in Guatemala's
interest to keep me in prison
1328
01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:46,083
for that many years,
so I was deported
1329
01:17:46,083 --> 01:17:48,922
to the States,
which is what I wanted.
1330
01:17:48,922 --> 01:17:52,530
This afternoon, he boarded
a flight back to Florida.
1331
01:17:52,530 --> 01:17:55,234
[man] Amid a media frenzy,
Guatemalan police
1332
01:17:55,234 --> 01:17:57,606
forced him aboard
a U. S.‐bound flight.
1333
01:18:03,417 --> 01:18:05,288
[woman] Software developer
John McAfee
1334
01:18:05,288 --> 01:18:06,992
has returned
to the United States.
1335
01:18:06,992 --> 01:18:08,829
[man] The software pioneer
is still wanted
1336
01:18:08,829 --> 01:18:11,000
for questioning in the murder
of an American citizen
1337
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,870
in Belize,
but he's free for now.
1338
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:14,540
And at the moment,
he's still not charged
1339
01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:16,176
with any crime.
1340
01:18:18,749 --> 01:18:22,455
I cannot help but feel
that he enjoyed,
1341
01:18:22,455 --> 01:18:25,596
in his mind, playing the role
of kind of a puppet master.
1342
01:18:25,596 --> 01:18:26,731
He had a plan,
1343
01:18:26,731 --> 01:18:29,570
and he was orchestrating
that plan.
1344
01:18:29,570 --> 01:18:30,000
What's a better story?
1345
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:30,806
What's a better story?
1346
01:18:30,806 --> 01:18:33,110
Millionaire mad man
on the run.
1347
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:34,647
But you saved my [bleep].
Why?
1348
01:18:34,647 --> 01:18:37,152
'Cause you paid attention
to the story.
1349
01:18:37,152 --> 01:18:38,789
Because you acted
like a mad man?
1350
01:18:38,789 --> 01:18:40,491
I did, and it worked.
1351
01:18:43,665 --> 01:18:47,506
[Art] It's something
that I guess I have to learn
1352
01:18:47,506 --> 01:18:49,109
to realize that it's something
1353
01:18:49,109 --> 01:18:50,913
that I can't do anything about.
1354
01:18:50,913 --> 01:18:52,650
I can't rectify it.
1355
01:18:52,650 --> 01:18:54,019
I can't solve it.
1356
01:18:54,019 --> 01:18:55,856
I can't punish anybody.
1357
01:18:55,856 --> 01:18:57,760
I can't do anything except
1358
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,000
regret the loss of my son.
1359
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,033
regret the loss of my son.
1360
01:19:01,033 --> 01:19:02,603
And, uh‐‐
1361
01:19:06,410 --> 01:19:08,447
I don't know what else
to say about it.
1362
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:39,476
[Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
1363
01:19:41,146 --> 01:19:43,017
Is it DNA tested?
1364
01:19:45,789 --> 01:19:49,129
We do not have the level
of forensic expertise
1365
01:19:49,129 --> 01:19:52,168
to prosecute a crime like that.
1366
01:19:52,168 --> 01:19:54,372
‐ [Nanette] Right.
‐ That is a matter of fact.
1367
01:19:54,372 --> 01:19:57,178
We've barely begun
to touch fingerprinting,
1368
01:19:57,178 --> 01:19:58,648
that sort of thing.
1369
01:19:58,648 --> 01:20:00,000
And our murder/conviction rate
is below 3%.
1370
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,224
And our murder/conviction rate
is below 3%.
1371
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:09,770
‐ [Nanette] Really?
‐ No.
1372
01:20:32,650 --> 01:20:35,656
[Nanette] And who was
at John's house at the time?
1373
01:20:51,353 --> 01:20:52,623
[Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
1374
01:20:55,428 --> 01:20:58,334
[Nanette] Cash had not
been easy to find.
1375
01:20:58,334 --> 01:21:00,000
Because he didn't want
to be found.
1376
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:00,605
Because he didn't want
to be found.
1377
01:21:00,605 --> 01:21:02,041
Finally, his friend
Eddie Halliday
1378
01:21:02,041 --> 01:21:04,179
urged him to talk to me.
1379
01:21:17,906 --> 01:21:19,175
[laughs]
1380
01:21:26,289 --> 01:21:28,026
‐ You know?
‐ [Nanette] He was asking
1381
01:21:28,026 --> 01:21:30,000
to put money
in people's bank accounts?
1382
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,331
to put money
in people's bank accounts?
1383
01:21:38,515 --> 01:21:40,886
[Nanette] So, tell me about
what happened
1384
01:21:40,886 --> 01:21:42,523
with Greg Faull.
1385
01:21:57,018 --> 01:21:58,253
[Nanette] What guy's account?
1386
01:22:09,275 --> 01:22:10,979
[Samantha]
I was with him the night
1387
01:22:10,979 --> 01:22:12,716
when his neighbor got shot.
1388
01:22:12,716 --> 01:22:15,722
He was with me in the room.
1389
01:22:15,722 --> 01:22:17,860
Like, four in the morning,
he was still there.
1390
01:22:19,295 --> 01:22:20,832
[thunder booms]
1391
01:22:38,267 --> 01:22:40,504
[golf cart motor trilling]
1392
01:22:55,735 --> 01:22:57,639
[Nanette]
And what was he like?
1393
01:23:00,377 --> 01:23:01,614
You know, this, that.
1394
01:23:07,559 --> 01:23:11,567
[Nanette] Any time in that
period that Greg was killed,
1395
01:23:11,567 --> 01:23:15,775
did you ever see Eddie Mac,
or MAC‐10 at the house?
1396
01:23:15,775 --> 01:23:18,280
He wasn't there the night
dog was poisoned.
1397
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,552
In morning he was there.
1398
01:23:20,552 --> 01:23:23,625
I saw that guy‐‐
this dark‐skinned guy.
1399
01:23:23,625 --> 01:23:25,695
MAC‐10 they call him, yeah.
1400
01:23:25,695 --> 01:23:28,568
I only saw him, like,
just I got a glimpse of him.
1401
01:23:28,568 --> 01:23:30,000
He was in the hall
talking to him.
1402
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:30,905
He was in the hall
talking to him.
1403
01:23:30,905 --> 01:23:33,043
And I just came in,
got a juice,
1404
01:23:33,043 --> 01:23:34,546
and I went back in the room.
1405
01:23:34,546 --> 01:23:36,416
[Nanette] Did you ever
see him again?
1406
01:23:36,416 --> 01:23:37,886
No, I never saw him again.
1407
01:23:48,473 --> 01:23:50,411
[Nanette] To do what?
1408
01:23:52,114 --> 01:23:54,520
You know, to kill the guy.
1409
01:23:56,256 --> 01:23:57,959
[Nanette] Did the police
ever question you
1410
01:23:57,959 --> 01:23:59,630
about the murder
of Greg Faull?
1411
01:24:06,777 --> 01:24:08,280
Well, you know‐‐
1412
01:24:16,496 --> 01:24:17,766
You know?
1413
01:24:22,341 --> 01:24:24,580
[Nanette] I was trying to find
Eddie McKoy
1414
01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:28,153
to ask him about
these new allegations.
1415
01:24:28,153 --> 01:24:30,000
Eventually, he agreed
to meet me a second time.
1416
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,527
Eventually, he agreed
to meet me a second time.
1417
01:24:31,527 --> 01:24:33,664
What new information
do you have for me?
1418
01:24:37,171 --> 01:24:39,475
[Nanette] Well,
I've looked into that.
1419
01:24:41,379 --> 01:24:43,651
Okay, all right.
Where were you
1420
01:24:43,651 --> 01:24:46,557
when Greg Faull was killed?
1421
01:24:46,557 --> 01:24:49,797
So can you tell me
the real story?
1422
01:24:49,797 --> 01:24:51,967
So around that time,
did John ask you
1423
01:24:51,967 --> 01:24:54,205
to do something
and give you any money?
1424
01:24:54,205 --> 01:24:57,178
Like $5,000?
1425
01:24:57,178 --> 01:24:58,981
‐ [Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
‐ No.
1426
01:24:58,981 --> 01:25:00,000
‐ [Nanette] No?
‐ No, never.
1427
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:00,552
‐ [Nanette] No?
‐ No, never.
1428
01:25:05,427 --> 01:25:06,764
[Nanette]
Why are you smiling?
1429
01:25:13,210 --> 01:25:15,615
‐ [Nanette] No?
‐ No.
1430
01:25:15,615 --> 01:25:17,284
[Nanette]
So you didn't get $5,000
1431
01:25:17,284 --> 01:25:19,890
wired into your account?
1432
01:25:19,890 --> 01:25:23,163
So some people said
they saw you that night.
1433
01:25:23,163 --> 01:25:25,902
And‐‐and you went
to John's house.
1434
01:25:25,902 --> 01:25:27,404
No.
1435
01:25:29,375 --> 01:25:30,000
‐ Oh, no. Never.
‐ [Nanette] Never?
1436
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,312
‐ Oh, no. Never.
‐ [Nanette] Never?
1437
01:25:31,312 --> 01:25:33,551
‐ Never.
‐ [Nanette] Okay.
1438
01:25:39,161 --> 01:25:40,565
[Nanette] So you
were not hired by John
1439
01:25:40,565 --> 01:25:42,769
‐ to kill Greg Faull?
‐ No, no. Never.
1440
01:25:44,673 --> 01:25:46,376
[Nanette] And if you were,
would you tell me?
1441
01:25:46,376 --> 01:25:47,545
No, I‐‐well‐‐
1442
01:25:52,555 --> 01:25:54,358
[Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
All right‐‐
1443
01:25:56,864 --> 01:25:58,233
[Nanette] So I‐‐
I'm just trying to understand
1444
01:25:58,233 --> 01:26:00,000
why someone would say this.
1445
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:00,203
why someone would say this.
1446
01:26:02,441 --> 01:26:03,778
‐ [Nanette] I cannot tell you.
‐ Okay.
1447
01:26:03,778 --> 01:26:05,682
[Nanette]
Did you have an alibi?
1448
01:26:10,758 --> 01:26:12,762
So...
1449
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:17,171
[Nanette] Mm‐hmm.
1450
01:26:17,171 --> 01:26:20,010
I wanted to check out
Eddie's alibi.
1451
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,381
But it felt
way too dangerous.
1452
01:26:25,287 --> 01:26:28,894
Going around George Street
and asking questions?
1453
01:26:28,894 --> 01:26:30,000
Not a good idea.
1454
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,598
Not a good idea.
1455
01:26:32,769 --> 01:26:35,775
♪ upbeat pop music ♪
1456
01:26:35,775 --> 01:26:38,581
♪ I'm going underground ♪
1457
01:26:38,581 --> 01:26:42,154
♪ Gonna lose myself
in the crowd ♪
1458
01:26:42,154 --> 01:26:44,559
♪ Forget my troubles... ♪
1459
01:26:44,559 --> 01:26:46,229
[Martin] Now he's back
in the United States,
1460
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:47,932
and so many people,
they would come up to me
1461
01:26:47,932 --> 01:26:49,770
and say, "Hey, did they ever
catch that guy?" [laughs]
1462
01:26:49,770 --> 01:26:54,478
♪ And it's all over now ♪
1463
01:26:54,478 --> 01:26:57,585
[Martin] Remember
that crazy time in Belize?
1464
01:26:57,585 --> 01:27:00,000
It was as if
it hadn't happened.
1465
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,259
It was as if
it hadn't happened.
1466
01:27:01,259 --> 01:27:03,864
[Nanette] It looked like John
had lived the full fantasy
1467
01:27:03,864 --> 01:27:05,935
of an ugly American
living large
1468
01:27:05,935 --> 01:27:08,073
in a poor
Central American country.
1469
01:27:08,073 --> 01:27:10,444
He had apparently gotten away
with possible murder and rape,
1470
01:27:10,444 --> 01:27:12,281
buying the police,
buying young women,
1471
01:27:12,281 --> 01:27:14,653
indulging in bizarre,
degrading sex,
1472
01:27:14,653 --> 01:27:18,293
all seemingly
without consequence.
1473
01:27:18,293 --> 01:27:20,765
So I gotta keep the public
interested in me, right?
1474
01:27:20,765 --> 01:27:22,334
‐ Yep.
‐ Well, I can do it
1475
01:27:22,334 --> 01:27:23,503
by doing
any number of things.
1476
01:27:23,503 --> 01:27:24,773
Being a bad guy,
being a good guy,
1477
01:27:24,773 --> 01:27:27,010
being a fool,
being all three at once.
1478
01:27:27,010 --> 01:27:28,614
Uh, whatever it takes.
1479
01:27:28,614 --> 01:27:30,000
He goes from running away
1480
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,018
He goes from running away
1481
01:27:31,018 --> 01:27:32,989
from something
to now running for.
1482
01:27:32,989 --> 01:27:34,258
And in this case,
he wanted to be
1483
01:27:34,258 --> 01:27:35,995
President of the United States.
1484
01:27:35,995 --> 01:27:39,335
[woman] Antivirus software
industry pioneer, John McAfee,
1485
01:27:39,335 --> 01:27:41,807
throwing his hat into
the 2016 presidential ring.
1486
01:27:41,807 --> 01:27:44,445
Have you actually filed yet, and
have you started to raise money?
1487
01:27:44,445 --> 01:27:46,215
I filed the papers on Tuesday.
1488
01:27:46,215 --> 01:27:47,785
Uh, I'm officially running,
yes, ma'am.
1489
01:27:47,785 --> 01:27:49,789
We all know he likes attention.
1490
01:27:49,789 --> 01:27:52,194
Okay, so,
at any point in time,
1491
01:27:52,194 --> 01:27:54,900
if he's not getting as much
1492
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,471
media attention
as he would like,
1493
01:27:57,471 --> 01:27:59,743
then he'll absolutely
do something outrageous,
1494
01:27:59,743 --> 01:28:00,000
say something outrageous,
post something outrageous.
1495
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,414
say something outrageous,
post something outrageous.
1496
01:28:02,414 --> 01:28:05,187
Spy cameras are hidden
in cactuses.
1497
01:28:05,187 --> 01:28:07,124
The government
surreptitiously parses
1498
01:28:07,124 --> 01:28:08,861
our verbal communications.
1499
01:28:08,861 --> 01:28:10,531
And the concept of privacy
1500
01:28:10,531 --> 01:28:13,036
is fast approaching extinction.
1501
01:28:13,036 --> 01:28:15,140
Running for president
is pretty outrageous.
1502
01:28:15,140 --> 01:28:18,379
Mr. McAfee, as president,
what would you do about ISIS?
1503
01:28:18,379 --> 01:28:21,620
ISIS is a problem
of intelligence gathering
1504
01:28:21,620 --> 01:28:23,223
more than anything else.
1505
01:28:23,223 --> 01:28:24,893
I mean, we have the capacity‐‐
certainly‐‐
1506
01:28:24,893 --> 01:28:28,399
is anybody doing terrorist acts
inside of China?
1507
01:28:28,399 --> 01:28:30,000
Or inside of Russia?
No, it just doesn't happen.
1508
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,403
Or inside of Russia?
No, it just doesn't happen.
1509
01:28:30,403 --> 01:28:33,409
They are so far ahead of us
from a cybersecurity standpoint,
1510
01:28:33,409 --> 01:28:36,717
meaning, intelligence gathering
in the modern age.
1511
01:28:36,717 --> 01:28:39,522
[applause]
1512
01:28:39,522 --> 01:28:41,492
[Nanette] While John was
running for president,
1513
01:28:41,492 --> 01:28:44,164
the investigation into
Greg Faull's murder continued.
1514
01:28:46,502 --> 01:28:50,043
In early 2016,
the Belizean police force
1515
01:28:50,043 --> 01:28:53,249
asked the FBI for assistance.
1516
01:28:53,249 --> 01:28:55,788
This allowed FBI agents
to investigate
1517
01:28:55,788 --> 01:28:58,459
and potentially try the case
in the United States
1518
01:28:58,459 --> 01:29:00,000
if they were able to collect
enough evidence.
1519
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,202
if they were able to collect
enough evidence.
1520
01:29:03,202 --> 01:29:06,543
Tonight, there is a report
that Amy Emshwiller,
1521
01:29:06,543 --> 01:29:09,081
one of McAfee's girlfriends
at the time,
1522
01:29:09,081 --> 01:29:11,185
has been detained
for questioning
1523
01:29:11,185 --> 01:29:12,889
in the murder of Faull.
1524
01:29:12,889 --> 01:29:14,592
She was picked up
by the police,
1525
01:29:14,592 --> 01:29:16,530
who have been working
with the FBI
1526
01:29:16,530 --> 01:29:18,166
to crack the homicide.
1527
01:29:21,172 --> 01:29:23,544
[phone line trilling]
1528
01:29:23,544 --> 01:29:25,781
‐ [Santiago] Hello?
‐ [Nanette] Hi, Santiago.
1529
01:29:25,781 --> 01:29:28,052
It's Nanette.
1530
01:29:28,052 --> 01:29:30,000
I was just checking in
to see if there's been
1531
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:30,056
I was just checking in
to see if there's been
1532
01:29:30,056 --> 01:29:33,229
any progress since you
interviewed Amy and‐‐
1533
01:29:55,841 --> 01:29:59,114
‐ [Nanette] Eddie McKoy?
‐ [Santiago] Yeah.
1534
01:29:59,114 --> 01:30:00,000
[Nanette] I couldn't believe
that John's girlfriend
1535
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,252
[Nanette] I couldn't believe
that John's girlfriend
1536
01:30:01,252 --> 01:30:03,624
also fingered Eddie McKoy.
1537
01:30:03,624 --> 01:30:06,462
It echoed what Cash told me.
1538
01:30:06,462 --> 01:30:08,801
But without a DNA test
to match the fingernail,
1539
01:30:08,801 --> 01:30:11,873
there's not enough evidence
to make any arrests.
1540
01:30:11,873 --> 01:30:15,280
They would have to find Eddie
to see if his DNA matched.
1541
01:30:17,652 --> 01:30:20,524
A few days later,
Eddie emailed me.
1542
01:30:20,524 --> 01:30:22,995
He's leaving Belize.
For good.
1543
01:30:22,995 --> 01:30:25,701
So why are you leaving?
1544
01:30:32,481 --> 01:30:34,719
[Nanette] Someone shot at you
in your home?
1545
01:30:43,537 --> 01:30:45,708
[Nanette] Does it have anything
to do with John?
1546
01:30:45,708 --> 01:30:48,446
Or is it entirely separate
business?
1547
01:31:00,871 --> 01:31:02,942
[Nanette] Why do you think
he wants to hurt you?
1548
01:31:04,979 --> 01:31:07,852
[Nanette]
What you told me is not‐‐
1549
01:31:07,852 --> 01:31:09,889
‐ [Nanette] I mean, other‐‐
‐ [Eddie] Oh, yeah, yeah.
1550
01:31:14,498 --> 01:31:17,170
‐ [Eddie] You know‐‐
‐ [Nanette] But not everything.
1551
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,511
[Nanette]
It's too complicated?
1552
01:31:23,182 --> 01:31:24,586
[Eddie] And, you know?
1553
01:31:24,586 --> 01:31:26,388
[Nanette]
Are you leaving tomorrow?
1554
01:31:29,929 --> 01:31:30,000
♪ pensive music ♪
1555
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,434
♪ pensive music ♪
1556
01:31:32,434 --> 01:31:34,371
[Nanette] John was attending
a Libertarian debate
1557
01:31:34,371 --> 01:31:36,041
in New York.
1558
01:31:36,041 --> 01:31:37,712
We had been emailing,
texting,
1559
01:31:37,712 --> 01:31:40,283
talking on the phone all year.
1560
01:31:40,283 --> 01:31:41,720
But this would be
the first time
1561
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,122
I was meeting him
face‐to‐face.
1562
01:31:43,122 --> 01:31:44,792
[woman] He's doing very well
in the polls.
1563
01:31:44,792 --> 01:31:45,628
‐ [Nanette] Okay.
‐ He's one of
1564
01:31:45,628 --> 01:31:46,630
the top three candidates
1565
01:31:46,630 --> 01:31:47,999
in the Libertarian Party.
1566
01:31:47,999 --> 01:31:50,336
‐ [Nanette] Yes.
‐ So let's go in.
1567
01:31:50,336 --> 01:31:51,840
[Nanette] Okay.
1568
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,244
[crowd chattering]
1569
01:31:56,816 --> 01:31:58,152
You ready?
1570
01:31:59,956 --> 01:32:00,000
John, I wanted
to congratulate you.
1571
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,093
John, I wanted
to congratulate you.
1572
01:32:02,093 --> 01:32:04,131
‐ On‐‐on what?
‐ On your campaign.
1573
01:32:04,131 --> 01:32:05,801
‐ Oh, our cam‐‐
‐ You've done so well.
1574
01:32:05,801 --> 01:32:07,872
‐ Thank you very much.
‐ Are you feeling optimistic?
1575
01:32:07,872 --> 01:32:09,274
‐ Oh, absolutely.
‐ Yeah.
1576
01:32:09,274 --> 01:32:11,478
I don't see how I can lose.
I'm serious.
1577
01:32:11,478 --> 01:32:13,482
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ So, um, I mean,
1578
01:32:13,482 --> 01:32:15,721
based on the numbers‐‐
they just tell me by numbers
1579
01:32:15,721 --> 01:32:17,090
that‐‐that I have it.
1580
01:32:17,090 --> 01:32:19,127
Are you still in touch
with people from Belize?
1581
01:32:19,127 --> 01:32:21,231
Of course, yes,
I have many friends there.
1582
01:32:21,231 --> 01:32:23,135
‐ Do you recognize me?
‐ I do not.
1583
01:32:23,135 --> 01:32:24,471
‐ You don't?
‐ No.
1584
01:32:24,471 --> 01:32:26,910
‐ I'm Nanette.
‐ You are Nanette.
1585
01:32:26,910 --> 01:32:28,079
‐ Yes.
‐ Oh, okay.
1586
01:32:28,079 --> 01:32:29,649
Well, nice to meet you,
Nanette.
1587
01:32:29,649 --> 01:32:30,000
‐ Nice to meet you.
‐ And are these your people?
1588
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:31,786
‐ Nice to meet you.
‐ And are these your people?
1589
01:32:31,786 --> 01:32:33,089
‐ These are my people.
‐ Okay, please turn
1590
01:32:33,089 --> 01:32:34,291
‐ your cameras off.
‐ Why?
1591
01:32:34,291 --> 01:32:35,828
I do not want to be
on your camera.
1592
01:32:35,828 --> 01:32:37,097
[announcer] Can I have your
attention, please?
1593
01:32:37,097 --> 01:32:38,700
We're in a public event.
1594
01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,971
[announcer] Can I have all
of the state officers,
1595
01:32:40,971 --> 01:32:44,377
the new ones, all of
the delegates from the counties,
1596
01:32:44,377 --> 01:32:46,348
step into the hallway out there
1597
01:32:46,348 --> 01:32:49,054
where we can have a meeting
where it's a little bit quiet.
1598
01:32:49,054 --> 01:32:50,356
‐ Thank you very much.
‐ Thank you.
1599
01:32:50,356 --> 01:32:53,229
[Nanette]
Are you leaving, John?
1600
01:32:53,229 --> 01:32:54,966
Bye.
1601
01:32:57,972 --> 01:32:59,742
[Nanette]
Less than one hour later,
1602
01:32:59,742 --> 01:33:00,000
John sent me
a flurry of emails.
1603
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,382
John sent me
a flurry of emails.
1604
01:33:03,382 --> 01:33:06,188
Each one more hostile
than the last.
1605
01:33:06,188 --> 01:33:09,127
♪ ominous music ♪
1606
01:33:09,127 --> 01:33:14,137
♪♪♪
1607
01:33:24,992 --> 01:33:27,565
A few weeks later,
at the Libertarian Primary,
1608
01:33:27,565 --> 01:33:30,000
John came in second,
losing out to Gary Johnson.
1609
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,973
John came in second,
losing out to Gary Johnson.
1610
01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:33,577
But he continues
to be considered
1611
01:33:33,577 --> 01:33:37,483
a major player
in the cybersecurity world.
1612
01:33:37,483 --> 01:33:41,726
We are told by the corporations
in power, and our government,
1613
01:33:41,726 --> 01:33:45,433
that if we have nothing to hide,
1614
01:33:45,433 --> 01:33:47,571
then why should we care?
1615
01:33:47,571 --> 01:33:51,278
[Nanette] He was named CEO
of MGT Capital Investments.
1616
01:33:51,278 --> 01:33:56,121
And after the announcement,
the stock rose over 700%.
1617
01:33:56,121 --> 01:33:57,925
I have him on Google Alerts,
1618
01:33:57,925 --> 01:34:00,000
and every day
there are multiple stories
1619
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:00,096
and every day
there are multiple stories
1620
01:34:00,096 --> 01:34:01,933
in the mainstream press
1621
01:34:01,933 --> 01:34:05,139
about John being
a cybersecurity expert.
1622
01:34:05,139 --> 01:34:07,043
He's legitimized himself again.
1623
01:34:07,043 --> 01:34:10,416
It's an amazing transition.
1624
01:34:10,416 --> 01:34:14,424
He is talking about
Internet security.
1625
01:34:14,424 --> 01:34:17,330
He's talking about iPhones.
You know, he's talking about
1626
01:34:17,330 --> 01:34:20,069
real privacy,
security issues of our times.
1627
01:34:20,069 --> 01:34:22,273
And he's doing it
with the authoritative,
1628
01:34:22,273 --> 01:34:23,409
"I'm John McAfee.
1629
01:34:23,409 --> 01:34:24,845
I'm not that John McAfee
1630
01:34:24,845 --> 01:34:27,450
who was chasing through
the jungle on the run."
1631
01:34:27,450 --> 01:34:30,000
This is the John McAfee,
now back to his namesake,
1632
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,191
This is the John McAfee,
now back to his namesake,
1633
01:34:31,191 --> 01:34:35,734
online security, kind of, guru.
1634
01:34:35,734 --> 01:34:37,604
Even my friends, you know,
they think,
1635
01:34:37,604 --> 01:34:42,614
"Oh, he's that, you know,
he's that security genius.
1636
01:34:42,614 --> 01:34:44,284
You know, McAfee Software."
1637
01:34:44,284 --> 01:34:48,626
They‐‐they think he's a rebel,
like I did.
1638
01:34:48,626 --> 01:34:50,129
I mean, they think
he's eccentric.
1639
01:34:50,129 --> 01:34:51,398
They think,
"Oh, he's a cokehead."
1640
01:34:51,398 --> 01:34:52,835
You know?
"Ah, who cares?
1641
01:34:52,835 --> 01:34:54,504
As long as he's got
brilliant ideas."
1642
01:34:54,504 --> 01:34:56,241
That's what I thought.
1643
01:34:56,241 --> 01:35:00,000
And I see him regaining that‐‐
1644
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:00,249
And I see him regaining that‐‐
1645
01:35:00,249 --> 01:35:04,424
you know, that reputation.
1646
01:35:04,424 --> 01:35:05,961
It's the same exact pattern.
1647
01:35:05,961 --> 01:35:07,931
He's trying
to reinvent himself.
1648
01:35:07,931 --> 01:35:12,040
He's getting young,
impressionable people involved.
1649
01:35:13,409 --> 01:35:15,379
And he's dangerous.
1650
01:35:38,626 --> 01:35:41,632
♪ instrumental piano music ♪
1651
01:35:41,632 --> 01:35:46,642
♪♪♪
1652
01:36:16,636 --> 01:36:21,646
♪♪♪
1653
01:36:28,325 --> 01:36:30,000
[man] Oh, well.
1654
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,196
[man] Oh, well.
1655
01:36:31,832 --> 01:36:33,168
[man] No.