1 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:31,498 Was it all just a dream? 2 00:00:31,673 --> 00:00:34,836 God bless you, Florida! Thank you! 3 00:00:35,010 --> 00:00:38,741 Did the last four years not really happen? 4 00:00:38,914 --> 00:00:42,907 Look, there's Ben Affleck. He's often in my dreams. 5 00:00:43,085 --> 00:00:46,020 And the Taxi Driver guy. He was there too. 6 00:00:46,188 --> 00:00:48,850 And little Stevie Wonder, he seemed so happy... 7 00:00:49,024 --> 00:00:52,357 like a miracle had taken place. 8 00:00:53,261 --> 00:00:55,456 Was it a dream? 9 00:00:55,630 --> 00:00:56,927 We want Gore! 10 00:00:57,099 --> 00:00:58,999 Or was it real? 11 00:01:01,069 --> 00:01:04,561 It was election night 2000, and things seemed to be going as planned. 12 00:01:04,739 --> 00:01:07,333 In New York, Al Gore is our projected winner. 13 00:01:07,509 --> 00:01:09,101 The Garden State is green for Gore. 14 00:01:09,277 --> 00:01:14,271 We project Mr. Gore the winner in Delaware. This state has voted with... 15 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,610 Excuse me, one second. I'm sorry to interrupt. 16 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:19,083 Mike, I wouldn't do this if it weren't big. 17 00:01:19,254 --> 00:01:21,347 Florida goes for Al Gore. 18 00:01:21,523 --> 00:01:25,892 CNN announces that we call Florida in the Al Gore column. 19 00:01:26,661 --> 00:01:30,062 Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election... 20 00:01:30,232 --> 00:01:31,563 in favor of the other guy. 21 00:01:31,733 --> 00:01:35,533 Fox News now projects George W. Bush the winner in Florida... 22 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:39,140 and thus it appears the winner of the presidency of the United States. 23 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:41,366 All of a sudden, the other networks said... 24 00:01:41,543 --> 00:01:44,376 Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true. 25 00:01:44,546 --> 00:01:47,310 All of us at the networks made a mistake... 26 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:50,713 and projected Florida in the Al Gore column. 27 00:01:50,886 --> 00:01:52,353 It was our mistake. 28 00:01:52,521 --> 00:01:55,319 What most people don't know is that the man in charge... 29 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:57,890 of the decision desk at Fox that night... 30 00:01:58,059 --> 00:01:59,720 the man who called it for Bush... 31 00:01:59,895 --> 00:02:03,387 was none other than Bush's first cousin John Ellis. 32 00:02:03,565 --> 00:02:06,659 How does someone like Bush get away with something like this? 33 00:02:10,071 --> 00:02:13,768 Well, first, it helps if your brother is the governor of the state in question. 34 00:02:13,942 --> 00:02:17,742 You know something? We are gonna win Florida. Mark my words. 35 00:02:17,913 --> 00:02:19,437 You can write it down. 36 00:02:19,614 --> 00:02:21,775 Second, make sure your campaign chairman... 37 00:02:21,950 --> 00:02:26,984 is also the vote-count woman and that her state hires a company... 38 00:02:27,355 --> 00:02:31,155 to knock voters off the rolls who aren't likely to vote for you. 39 00:02:31,326 --> 00:02:34,523 You can usually tell them by the color of their skin. 40 00:02:34,696 --> 00:02:37,893 Then make sure your side fights like it's life or death. 41 00:02:38,066 --> 00:02:42,231 This talk about legitimacy is way overblown. 42 00:02:42,404 --> 00:02:44,201 President Bush! President Bush! 43 00:02:44,343 --> 00:02:49,676 And hope the other side will just sit by, wait for the phone to ring. 44 00:02:49,844 --> 00:02:52,278 And even if numerous independent investigations... 45 00:02:52,447 --> 00:02:54,506 prove that Gore got the most votes... 46 00:02:54,683 --> 00:02:58,743 If there was a statewide recount, Gore won the election. 47 00:02:58,954 --> 00:03:01,821 It won't matter, as long as all your daddy's friends... 48 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:05,391 on the Supreme Court vote the right way. 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,588 While I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. 50 00:03:10,765 --> 00:03:13,199 What we need now is acceptance. 51 00:03:14,803 --> 00:03:17,237 We have a new president-elect. 52 00:03:18,306 --> 00:03:24,472 It turns out none of this was a dream. It's what really happened. 53 00:03:26,047 --> 00:03:29,175 On the day the joint session of both the House of Representatives... 54 00:03:29,351 --> 00:03:32,946 and the Senate was to certify the election results... 55 00:03:33,121 --> 00:03:35,885 Al Gore, in his dual role as outgoing vice president... 56 00:03:36,057 --> 00:03:39,149 and president of the Senate... 57 00:03:39,327 --> 00:03:42,387 presided over the event that would officially anoint... 58 00:03:42,564 --> 00:03:45,124 George W. Bush as the new president. 59 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:50,033 If any congressman wanted to raise an objection, the rules insisted... 60 00:03:50,205 --> 00:03:55,006 that he or she had to have the signed support of just one senator. 61 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:59,512 Mr. President, and I take great pride in calling you that... 62 00:03:59,681 --> 00:04:02,514 I must object because of the overwhelming evidence... 63 00:04:02,684 --> 00:04:06,518 of misconduct, deliberate fraud and an attempt to suppress voter... 64 00:04:06,688 --> 00:04:11,250 The chair must remind members that under Section 18 of Title 3... 65 00:04:11,426 --> 00:04:14,452 United States Code, no debate is allowed in the joint session. 66 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:17,029 Thank you, Mr. President. To answer your question... 67 00:04:17,198 --> 00:04:20,998 the objection is in writing, signed by a number of members... 68 00:04:21,169 --> 00:04:25,367 of the House of Representatives, but not by a member of the Senate. 69 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:30,068 Mr. President, it is in writing and signed by several House colleagues... 70 00:04:30,245 --> 00:04:35,012 on behalf, and myself, of the 27,000 voters of Duval County... 71 00:04:35,183 --> 00:04:38,744 in which 16,000 of them are African-Americans... 72 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,754 that was disenfranchised in this last election. 73 00:04:42,924 --> 00:04:45,256 Is the objection signed by a member of the Senate? 74 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:47,918 Not signed by a member of the Senate. 75 00:04:48,096 --> 00:04:49,825 The Senate is missing. 76 00:04:49,998 --> 00:04:52,228 It is in writing and signed by myself... 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,891 on behalf of many of the diverse constituents... 78 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:57,800 especially those in the 9th Congressional District... 79 00:04:57,972 --> 00:05:01,032 and all American voters who recognize that the Supreme Court... 80 00:05:01,209 --> 00:05:04,110 not the people of the United States, decided this election. 81 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,770 Is the objection signed by a senator? 82 00:05:06,948 --> 00:05:11,112 Unfortunately, Mr. President, it is not signed by one single senator. 83 00:05:11,286 --> 00:05:15,017 I have no authority over the United States Senate... 84 00:05:15,190 --> 00:05:16,782 and no senator has signed. 85 00:05:16,958 --> 00:05:20,519 Mr. President, it is in writing and signed by myself and several... 86 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:25,632 of my constituents from Florida. A senator is needed, but missing. 87 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,860 Is the objection in writing... 88 00:05:29,037 --> 00:05:32,404 and signed by a member of the House and a senator? 89 00:05:32,574 --> 00:05:34,804 The objection is in writing, and I don't care... 90 00:05:34,976 --> 00:05:39,572 that it is not signed by a member of the Senate. 91 00:05:39,748 --> 00:05:42,649 The chair will advise that the rules do care... 92 00:05:42,817 --> 00:05:48,153 and the signature of a senator... 93 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:54,193 Not a single senator came to the aid of the African-Americans in Congress. 94 00:05:54,362 --> 00:05:59,163 One after another, they were told to sit down and shut up. 95 00:05:59,334 --> 00:06:02,303 It's a sad day in America, Mr. President, when we can't find... 96 00:06:02,470 --> 00:06:05,496 a senator to sign the objections... 97 00:06:05,673 --> 00:06:08,699 - The gentleman will suspend... - New Democratic senators won't sign. 98 00:06:08,877 --> 00:06:12,677 - I object. - The gentleman will suspend. 99 00:06:14,783 --> 00:06:17,183 Inauguration coverage, 2001... 100 00:06:17,352 --> 00:06:20,844 on a nasty, but it could be worse, kind of day in Washington. 101 00:06:21,022 --> 00:06:22,717 - What do we want? - Justice! 102 00:06:22,891 --> 00:06:24,256 - When do we want it? - Now! 103 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,027 On the day George W. Bush was inaugurated... 104 00:06:28,196 --> 00:06:32,223 tens of thousands of Americans poured into the streets of D.C... 105 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,699 in one last attempt to reclaim what had been taken from them. 106 00:06:39,808 --> 00:06:42,538 They pelted Bush's limo with eggs... 107 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:44,405 Stay back! Get back! 108 00:06:44,579 --> 00:06:47,139 And brought the inauguration parade to a halt. 109 00:06:48,516 --> 00:06:51,713 The plan to have Bush get out of the limo for the traditional walk... 110 00:06:51,886 --> 00:06:54,116 to the White House was scrapped. 111 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:59,124 Bush's limo hit the gas to prevent an even larger riot. 112 00:06:59,294 --> 00:07:03,993 No president had ever witnessed such a thing on his inauguration day. 113 00:07:10,572 --> 00:07:16,738 And for the next eight months, it didn't get any better for George W. Bush. 114 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:22,943 He couldn't get his judges appointed, he struggled to pass his legislation... 115 00:07:23,084 --> 00:07:26,251 and he lost Republican control of the Senate. 116 00:07:27,288 --> 00:07:30,815 His approval ratings in the polls began to sink. 117 00:07:30,992 --> 00:07:34,428 He was already beginning to look like a lame-duck president. 118 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:39,089 With everything going wrong, he did what any of us would do. 119 00:07:39,267 --> 00:07:41,758 He went on vacation. 120 00:07:54,616 --> 00:07:55,878 Oh, no! 121 00:07:56,050 --> 00:07:59,417 In his first eight months in office before September 11th... 122 00:07:59,587 --> 00:08:03,546 George W. Bush was on vacation, according to The Washington Post... 123 00:08:03,725 --> 00:08:05,522 42 percent of the time. 124 00:08:05,693 --> 00:08:08,719 If I hit every shot good, people would say I wasn't working. 125 00:08:08,897 --> 00:08:12,856 It was not surprising that Mr. Bush needed some time off. 126 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:15,594 Being president is a lot of work. 127 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:19,171 What about these folks that say that you're taking too long of a vacation? 128 00:08:20,742 --> 00:08:23,973 They don't understand the definition of work then. 129 00:08:24,979 --> 00:08:29,382 I'm getting a lot done. You don't have to be in Washington to work. 130 00:08:29,551 --> 00:08:34,784 It's amazing what can happen with telephones and faxes. 131 00:08:34,956 --> 00:08:36,947 Thank you so much. 132 00:08:37,125 --> 00:08:38,956 - Is this to Destiny and Bubba? - Yeah. 133 00:08:39,127 --> 00:08:41,652 What are you doing the rest of the day? 134 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:44,764 Karen Hughes is coming over. We're working on some things. 135 00:08:44,933 --> 00:08:50,200 And she'll be over here. We're working on a few things, a few matters. 136 00:08:50,371 --> 00:08:55,434 I'm working on some initiatives. We're... You'll see. 137 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:58,443 There'll be some decisions I will have made while I'm here. 138 00:08:58,613 --> 00:09:00,740 We'll be announcing them as time goes on. 139 00:09:00,915 --> 00:09:04,942 The first time I met him, he had some good advice for me. 140 00:09:05,119 --> 00:09:07,019 Governor Bush, it's Michael Moore. 141 00:09:07,188 --> 00:09:11,522 Behave yourself, will you? Go find real work. 142 00:09:11,693 --> 00:09:14,958 And work was something he knew a lot about. 143 00:09:15,129 --> 00:09:17,188 - Anybody want some grits? - Yeah. 144 00:09:17,732 --> 00:09:21,759 Relaxing at Camp David. Yachting off Kennebunkport. 145 00:09:21,936 --> 00:09:23,801 How you doing? 146 00:09:24,539 --> 00:09:27,531 Or being a cowboy on the ranch in Texas. 147 00:09:27,709 --> 00:09:31,077 I love nature, getting in the truck with my dogs. 148 00:09:31,312 --> 00:09:32,574 Oh, hi. 149 00:09:32,747 --> 00:09:35,545 George Bush spent the rest of August at the ranch... 150 00:09:35,717 --> 00:09:37,878 where life was less complicated. 151 00:09:38,052 --> 00:09:41,544 Armadillos love to dig the soil looking for bugs. 152 00:09:41,723 --> 00:09:43,714 And... 153 00:09:44,158 --> 00:09:48,527 So I went out there the other day, and there was Barney... 154 00:09:48,696 --> 00:09:53,156 buried in this hole, chasing an armadillo. 155 00:09:53,334 --> 00:09:55,302 It was a summer to remember. 156 00:09:56,137 --> 00:10:00,662 Afterward, he left Texas for his second-favorite place. 157 00:10:01,376 --> 00:10:04,209 On September 10th, he joined his brother in Florida... 158 00:10:04,379 --> 00:10:08,509 where they looked at files and met important Floridians. 159 00:10:09,183 --> 00:10:15,452 He went to sleep that night in a bed made with fine French linens. 160 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,203 Do you suppose he's pretty confident... 161 00:10:34,375 --> 00:10:36,741 on those numbers on Iraqi security forces? 162 00:12:06,033 --> 00:12:08,831 Make me look young. 163 00:12:19,714 --> 00:12:22,547 Yeah, I've got a little, sort of air noise. 164 00:12:22,717 --> 00:12:26,118 Yeah, just don't turn it up too much. I don't want to blow my head off. 165 00:12:32,593 --> 00:12:34,618 I got a mike here if they want to use it. 166 00:12:34,796 --> 00:12:37,856 Testing, one, two. This is the Oval Office. Testing, one, two. 167 00:12:38,032 --> 00:12:41,490 Testing, one, two. This is the Oval Office. 168 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:46,364 Testing, one, two, three, four, five. 169 00:13:44,098 --> 00:13:46,623 We have something that has happened here... 170 00:13:46,801 --> 00:13:49,736 at the World Trade Center. We noticed a flame... 171 00:13:49,904 --> 00:13:52,566 and an awful lot of smoke... 172 00:14:00,281 --> 00:14:02,408 This is horrible. 173 00:14:13,194 --> 00:14:15,628 - Oh, my God! - Oh, my God. 174 00:14:15,796 --> 00:14:18,060 Oh, my, dear. 175 00:14:20,968 --> 00:14:24,267 Let's go! Let's go, back! Come on, let's go! 176 00:14:24,438 --> 00:14:26,998 Oh, my God! 177 00:14:28,976 --> 00:14:35,245 Save their souls, Lord. Save their souls, Lord. 178 00:14:36,684 --> 00:14:40,484 Oh, they're jumping. 179 00:16:21,188 --> 00:16:25,616 On September 11th, 2001, nearly 3000 people... 180 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,093 including a colleague of mine, Bill Weems... 181 00:16:29,263 --> 00:16:33,632 were killed in the largest foreign attack ever on American soil. 182 00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:38,233 The targets were the financial and military headquarters... 183 00:16:38,406 --> 00:16:40,271 of the United States. 184 00:16:40,441 --> 00:16:45,674 If anyone has any idea or they've seen him or knows where he is, to call us. 185 00:16:45,846 --> 00:16:50,044 He's got two little babies. Two little babies. 186 00:16:50,651 --> 00:16:53,552 As the attack took place, Mr. Bush was on his way... 187 00:16:53,721 --> 00:16:56,554 to an elementary school in Florida. 188 00:16:56,724 --> 00:17:00,455 When informed of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center... 189 00:17:00,628 --> 00:17:04,064 where terrorists had struck just eight years prior... 190 00:17:04,231 --> 00:17:08,065 Mr. Bush decided to go ahead with his photo opportunity. 191 00:17:08,235 --> 00:17:10,396 - Good morning, boys and girls. - Good morning. 192 00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:12,334 Good morning. 193 00:17:13,274 --> 00:17:15,139 Read this word the fast way. Get ready. 194 00:17:15,309 --> 00:17:16,901 - Mad! - Yes. Get ready. 195 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:20,570 - Calf! - Yeah. 196 00:17:20,781 --> 00:17:23,978 Get ready to read the words on this page without making a mistake. 197 00:17:24,151 --> 00:17:26,415 When the second plane hit the tower... 198 00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:28,953 his chief of staff entered the classroom... 199 00:17:29,123 --> 00:17:34,288 and told Mr. Bush, the nation is under attack. 200 00:17:36,997 --> 00:17:41,934 Not knowing what to do, with no one telling him what to do... 201 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:46,437 and no Secret Service rushing in to take him to safety... 202 00:17:46,607 --> 00:17:48,871 Mr. Bush just sat there... 203 00:17:49,043 --> 00:17:54,345 and continued to read My Pet Goat with the children. 204 00:18:08,095 --> 00:18:11,292 Nearly seven minutes passed with nobody doing anything. 205 00:18:17,004 --> 00:18:19,564 As Bush sat in that Florida classroom... 206 00:18:19,740 --> 00:18:22,265 was he wondering if maybe he should have shown up... 207 00:18:22,443 --> 00:18:24,274 to work more often? 208 00:18:24,445 --> 00:18:27,710 Should he have held at least one meeting since taking office... 209 00:18:27,882 --> 00:18:32,842 to discuss the threat of terrorism with his head of counterterrorism? 210 00:18:33,722 --> 00:18:39,518 Maybe Bush wondered why he had cut terrorism funding from the FBI. 211 00:18:39,693 --> 00:18:42,924 Or perhaps he just should have read the security briefing... 212 00:18:43,097 --> 00:18:46,362 that was given to him on August 6th, 2001... 213 00:18:46,534 --> 00:18:49,959 which said Osama Bin Laden was planning... 214 00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:53,106 to attack America by hijacking airplanes. 215 00:18:53,142 --> 00:18:58,869 Maybe he wasn't worried, because the title of the report was too vague. 216 00:18:59,046 --> 00:19:01,537 I believe the title was Bin Laden Determined... 217 00:19:01,715 --> 00:19:03,683 to Attack Inside the United States. 218 00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:07,946 A report like that might make some men jump... 219 00:19:08,122 --> 00:19:12,684 but, as in days past, George W. just went fishing. 220 00:19:13,227 --> 00:19:18,995 As the minutes went by, George Bush continued to sit in the classroom. 221 00:19:19,166 --> 00:19:24,627 Was he thinking, I've been hanging out with the wrong crowd. 222 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,371 Which one of them screwed me? 223 00:19:31,111 --> 00:19:34,737 Was it the guy my daddy's friends delivered a lot of weapons to? 224 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:38,618 Was it that group of religious fundamentalists... 225 00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:41,778 who visited my state when I was governor? 226 00:19:43,724 --> 00:19:47,387 Or was it the Saudis? 227 00:19:47,661 --> 00:19:52,826 Damn. It was them. I think I better blame it on this guy. 228 00:19:59,573 --> 00:20:02,064 In the days following September 11th... 229 00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:05,406 all commercial and private airline traffic was grounded. 230 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:10,812 The FAA has taken the action to close all of the airports in the United States. 231 00:20:10,985 --> 00:20:14,113 Even grounding the president's father, former President Bush... 232 00:20:14,288 --> 00:20:16,347 on a flight forced to land in Milwaukee. 233 00:20:16,523 --> 00:20:19,981 Thousands of travelers were stranded, among them Ricky Martin... 234 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,685 due to appear at tonight's Latin Grammy Awards. 235 00:20:22,863 --> 00:20:28,301 Not even Ricky Martin could fly. But really, who wanted to fly? 236 00:20:28,469 --> 00:20:32,337 No one, except the Bin Ladens. 237 00:20:39,413 --> 00:20:43,941 We had some airplanes authorized to pick up... 238 00:20:44,051 --> 00:20:46,178 Osama Bin Laden's family and other Saudis... 239 00:20:46,353 --> 00:20:48,014 and transport them out of this country. 240 00:20:48,355 --> 00:20:50,687 The White House approved planes... 241 00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:54,521 to pick up the Bin Ladens and numerous other Saudis. 242 00:20:54,695 --> 00:20:59,394 At least six private jets and nearly two dozen commercial planes... 243 00:20:59,566 --> 00:21:01,329 carried the Saudis and Bin Ladens... 244 00:21:01,502 --> 00:21:04,938 out of the U.S. after September 13th. 245 00:21:05,105 --> 00:21:10,839 In all, 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the Bin Laden family... 246 00:21:11,011 --> 00:21:13,809 were allowed to leave the country. 247 00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:17,541 Osama's always been portrayed as the black sheep in the family... 248 00:21:17,718 --> 00:21:22,243 that they cut off all relationship with him in 1994. 249 00:21:22,423 --> 00:21:24,690 In fact, things are much more complicated than that. 250 00:21:24,858 --> 00:21:27,258 Osama has had contact with other family members? 251 00:21:27,428 --> 00:21:31,660 That's right. In the summer of 2001, just before 9/11, one of Osama's sons... 252 00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:34,699 got married in Afghanistan, and several family members... 253 00:21:34,868 --> 00:21:36,768 - showed up at the wedding. - Bin Ladens? 254 00:21:36,937 --> 00:21:41,397 That's right. So they're not cut off completely. That's an exaggeration. 255 00:21:41,575 --> 00:21:43,770 We now welcome to Larry King Live... 256 00:21:43,944 --> 00:21:47,846 Prince Bandar, ambassador of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to the U.S. 257 00:21:48,015 --> 00:21:51,974 You had about 24 members of Bin Laden's family, and... 258 00:21:52,152 --> 00:21:54,950 - Here? - In America. Students and... 259 00:21:55,122 --> 00:21:59,559 His Majesty felt it's not fair for those innocent people to be subjected... 260 00:21:59,727 --> 00:22:03,686 to any harm, on the other hand, we understood the high emotions... 261 00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:07,425 so, with coordination with the FBI, we got them all out. 262 00:22:07,601 --> 00:22:10,695 This is retired FBI agent Jack Cloonan. 263 00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:15,308 Before 9/11, he was a senior agent on the joint FBI-CIA... 264 00:22:15,476 --> 00:22:16,807 al Qaeda task force. 265 00:22:16,977 --> 00:22:22,040 I, as an investigator, would not want these people to have left. 266 00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:26,312 I think, in the case of the Bin Laden family, it would have been prudent... 267 00:22:26,487 --> 00:22:29,945 to hand the subpoenas out, have them come in, get on-the-record. 268 00:22:30,124 --> 00:22:31,421 You know, get on-the-record. 269 00:22:31,592 --> 00:22:33,389 - That's the proper procedure? - Yeah. 270 00:22:33,660 --> 00:22:36,185 How many people were pulled off airlines after that... 271 00:22:36,363 --> 00:22:38,923 coming into the country who were Middle Eastern... 272 00:22:39,099 --> 00:22:41,124 or they fit a very general picture. 273 00:22:41,301 --> 00:22:45,397 We held hundreds of people for weeks and months at a time. 274 00:22:45,572 --> 00:22:48,632 Did the authorities do anything when the Bin Ladens tried to leave? 275 00:22:48,809 --> 00:22:51,403 No. They were identified at the airport. 276 00:22:51,578 --> 00:22:55,378 They looked at their passports, and they were identified. 277 00:22:55,549 --> 00:22:57,779 That would happen to us if we left the country. 278 00:22:57,951 --> 00:22:59,919 - Exactly. - Interview, check the passport. 279 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:01,645 - What else? - Nothing. 280 00:23:03,690 --> 00:23:05,817 I don't know about you, but usually... 281 00:23:05,993 --> 00:23:08,826 when the police can't find a murderer... 282 00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:11,963 don't they usually wanna talk to the family members... 283 00:23:12,132 --> 00:23:15,295 to find out where they think he might be? 284 00:23:15,469 --> 00:23:17,164 You don't know where your husband might be? 285 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:18,996 If you hear anything, let us know. 286 00:23:19,306 --> 00:23:21,171 Can you come downtown, give a statement? 287 00:23:21,341 --> 00:23:22,740 - How long? - You've got time. 288 00:23:22,910 --> 00:23:24,502 Mine's worth money. Yours isn't. 289 00:23:24,678 --> 00:23:26,407 - Send a bill. - I asked you a question. 290 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:29,048 - Answer them. Don't ask them. - I pay your salary, cop. 291 00:23:29,216 --> 00:23:30,547 Sit down. I'm gonna earn it. 292 00:23:30,717 --> 00:23:34,278 Yeah. That's how cops do it. What was going on here? 293 00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:36,962 We need to know more about that. 294 00:23:37,024 --> 00:23:39,651 That needs to be the subject of an investigation. 295 00:23:39,827 --> 00:23:43,228 What happened? How did it happen? Why? Who authorized it? 296 00:23:43,697 --> 00:23:47,558 Imagine what those poor bastards were feeling... 297 00:23:47,902 --> 00:23:51,200 when they were jumping off that building to their death. 298 00:23:51,371 --> 00:23:55,034 Those young guys and cops and firemen... 299 00:23:55,209 --> 00:23:57,905 that ran into that building, never asked a question. 300 00:23:58,078 --> 00:24:01,673 And they're dead. And families' lives are ruined. 301 00:24:01,849 --> 00:24:04,977 - And they'll never have peace. - That's right. 302 00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:08,747 And if I had to inconvenience... 303 00:24:09,256 --> 00:24:13,386 a member of the Bin Laden family with a subpoena or a grand jury... 304 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,994 Do you think I'd lose sleep over it? Not a minute. 305 00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:19,860 No one would question it. Not even the biggest civil libertarian. 306 00:24:20,033 --> 00:24:22,160 - No, no. It's just... - No one would question it. 307 00:24:22,336 --> 00:24:25,134 You know, you got a lawyer? Fine. Counsel? Fine. 308 00:24:25,305 --> 00:24:29,071 Mr. Bin Laden, this is why I'm asking. It isn't because I think you're anything. 309 00:24:29,243 --> 00:24:32,178 I just want to ask you the questions that I would anybody. 310 00:24:32,346 --> 00:24:34,906 - Right. - And that's all. 311 00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:37,446 None of this made any sense. 312 00:24:38,452 --> 00:24:42,548 Can you imagine in the days after the Oklahoma City terrorist bombing... 313 00:24:42,723 --> 00:24:44,953 President Clinton helping to arrange a trip... 314 00:24:45,125 --> 00:24:47,923 out of the country for the McVeigh family? 315 00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:49,960 What would have happened to Clinton... 316 00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:53,691 - if that had been revealed? - Burn him! Burn him! 317 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,233 Prince Bandar, do you know the Bin Laden family? 318 00:24:56,403 --> 00:24:58,200 - I do, very well. - What are they like? 319 00:24:58,372 --> 00:25:02,206 They're really lovely human beings. He is the only one I never... 320 00:25:02,376 --> 00:25:04,742 I don't know him well, but I met him only once. 321 00:25:04,912 --> 00:25:07,107 What was the circumstance under which you met? 322 00:25:07,281 --> 00:25:10,045 This is ironic. In the mid '80s... 323 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:12,378 if you remember, we and the United States... 324 00:25:12,553 --> 00:25:14,544 were supporting the mujahideen... 325 00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:18,452 to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. 326 00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:23,653 He came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends... 327 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:27,357 to help us against the atheists, the Communists. Isn't it ironic? 328 00:25:27,534 --> 00:25:31,766 He came to thank you for helping bring America to help him. 329 00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:34,905 And now he may be responsible for bombing America. 330 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:38,067 - Absolutely. - What did you make of him? 331 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:40,110 - I was not impressed. - Not impressed? 332 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,080 No. I thought he was a simple and very quiet guy. 333 00:25:45,886 --> 00:25:51,256 A simple and quiet guy, whose family just happened to have... 334 00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:57,125 a business relationship with the family of George W. Bush. 335 00:25:57,531 --> 00:26:00,557 Is that what he was thinking about? 336 00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:06,604 Because if the public knew this, it wouldn't look very good. 337 00:26:07,374 --> 00:26:10,673 Was he thinking, you know... 338 00:26:10,844 --> 00:26:15,110 I need a big, black marker? 339 00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:21,016 In early 2004, in a speech during the New Hampshire primary... 340 00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:23,782 I called George W. Bush a deserter... 341 00:26:23,957 --> 00:26:27,017 from his time in the Texas Air National Guard. 342 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:31,392 In response, the White House released his military records... 343 00:26:31,565 --> 00:26:34,261 in the hopes of disproving the charge. 344 00:26:34,434 --> 00:26:38,336 What Bush didn't know is that I already had a copy... 345 00:26:38,505 --> 00:26:43,272 of his military records, uncensored, obtained in the year 2000. 346 00:26:43,443 --> 00:26:46,537 And there is one glaring difference between the records released... 347 00:26:46,713 --> 00:26:51,912 in 2000 and those he released in 2004. 348 00:26:54,287 --> 00:26:57,518 A name had been blacked out. 349 00:26:57,691 --> 00:27:01,491 In 1972, two airmen were suspended for failing to take... 350 00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:08,067 their medical examination, one was George W. Bush. 351 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:13,598 And the other was James R. Bath. 352 00:27:15,709 --> 00:27:19,645 In 2000, the documents show both names. 353 00:27:20,147 --> 00:27:26,552 But in 2004, Bush and the White House had Bath's name blacked out. 354 00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:29,952 Why didn't Bush want the press and the public... 355 00:27:30,123 --> 00:27:33,251 to see Bath's name on his military records? 356 00:27:33,427 --> 00:27:36,863 Perhaps he was worried that the American people would find out... 357 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:39,521 that at one time, James R. Bath... 358 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,898 was the Texas money manager for the Bin Ladens. 359 00:27:44,604 --> 00:27:46,765 Bush and Bath had become good friends... 360 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:50,205 when they both served in the Texas Air National Guard. 361 00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:51,844 After they were discharged... 362 00:27:52,012 --> 00:27:54,572 when Bush's dad was head of the CIA... 363 00:27:54,748 --> 00:27:58,707 Bath opened up his own aviation business after selling a plane... 364 00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:02,252 to a man by the name of Salem Bin Laden... 365 00:28:02,422 --> 00:28:05,789 heir to the second-largest fortune in Saudi Arabia... 366 00:28:05,959 --> 00:28:07,984 the Saudi Bin Ladin Group. 367 00:28:08,161 --> 00:28:12,154 W. at that time was just starting off in the world as a businessman. 368 00:28:12,332 --> 00:28:15,199 Because he's a guy who's always tried to emulate his father... 369 00:28:15,471 --> 00:28:21,332 He went into the oil business. He founded an oil company, Arbusto... 370 00:28:21,508 --> 00:28:25,342 which was very good at drilling dry holes that nothing came out of. 371 00:28:25,512 --> 00:28:29,004 But the question has always been, where did this money come from? 372 00:28:29,182 --> 00:28:33,312 Now, his dad was rich. His dad could have done this for him... 373 00:28:33,487 --> 00:28:35,546 but his dad didn't do this for him. 374 00:28:35,722 --> 00:28:39,818 There's no indication Daddy wrote a check to start him off in his company. 375 00:28:40,694 --> 00:28:43,254 So where did George W. Bush get his money? 376 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:45,159 I'm George Bush. 377 00:28:45,332 --> 00:28:48,665 One person who did invest in him was James R. Bath. 378 00:28:51,371 --> 00:28:55,171 Bush's good friend, James Bath, was hired by the Bin Laden family... 379 00:28:55,342 --> 00:28:59,335 to manage their money in Texas and invest in businesses. 380 00:29:03,416 --> 00:29:09,252 And James Bath himself, in turn, invested in George W. Bush. 381 00:29:11,124 --> 00:29:13,854 Bush ran Arbusto into the ground... 382 00:29:14,027 --> 00:29:16,825 as he did every other company he was involved in... 383 00:29:16,997 --> 00:29:21,559 until finally one of his companies was bought by Harken Energy... 384 00:29:22,235 --> 00:29:24,863 and they gave him a seat on their board. 385 00:29:25,438 --> 00:29:29,499 A lot of us suspected through the years that there has been... 386 00:29:29,676 --> 00:29:31,871 Saudi oil money involved in all these companies. 387 00:29:32,045 --> 00:29:37,312 Harken, Spectrum 7, Arbusto Drilling, all the Bush companies. 388 00:29:37,484 --> 00:29:40,476 Whenever they got in trouble, there were these angel investors... 389 00:29:40,654 --> 00:29:42,588 who flowed money into the companies. 390 00:29:42,756 --> 00:29:47,159 The question is, why would Saudis, who had all the oil in the world... 391 00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:52,094 go around the globe to invest in this lousy oil company? 392 00:29:52,265 --> 00:29:56,292 And the thing is, Harken had one big thing going for it... 393 00:29:56,469 --> 00:29:59,927 which is that George W. Bush was on its board of directors... 394 00:30:00,106 --> 00:30:03,269 at a time when his father was president of the United States. 395 00:30:03,443 --> 00:30:06,469 When you're the president's son and you've got unlimited access... 396 00:30:06,581 --> 00:30:10,743 combined with some credentials from a prior campaign... 397 00:30:10,917 --> 00:30:14,944 in Washington D.C., people tend to respect that. Access is power. 398 00:30:15,121 --> 00:30:19,717 And I can find my dad and talk to him any time of the day. 399 00:30:20,193 --> 00:30:23,253 Yes, it helps to be the president's son... 400 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,557 especially when you're being investigated... 401 00:30:25,732 --> 00:30:27,962 by the Securities and Exchange Commission. 402 00:30:28,134 --> 00:30:30,967 In 1990, when Mr. Bush was a director of Harken Energy... 403 00:30:31,137 --> 00:30:33,298 he received this memo from company lawyers... 404 00:30:33,473 --> 00:30:35,907 warning directors not to sell stock if they had... 405 00:30:36,076 --> 00:30:38,306 unfavorable information about the company. 406 00:30:38,478 --> 00:30:42,710 One week later, he sold $848,000 worth of Harken stock. 407 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:46,751 Two months later, Harken announced losses of more than $23 million. 408 00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:49,386 The James Baker law partner who helped Bush... 409 00:30:49,556 --> 00:30:51,581 beat the rap from the SEC... 410 00:30:51,758 --> 00:30:54,420 was a man by the name of Robert Jordan... 411 00:30:54,594 --> 00:30:57,290 who, when George W. became president... 412 00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:01,730 was appointed ambassador to Saudi Arabia. 413 00:31:04,871 --> 00:31:09,205 After the Harken debacle, the friends of Bush's dad got him a seat... 414 00:31:09,376 --> 00:31:13,710 on another board, of a company owned by the Carlyle Group. 415 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,240 We looked at which companies gained from September 11th. 416 00:31:18,452 --> 00:31:22,819 We turned up this company, Carlyle Group, a multinational conglomerate... 417 00:31:22,989 --> 00:31:25,787 that invests in heavily government-regulated industries... 418 00:31:25,959 --> 00:31:31,090 like telecommunications, health care and particularly, defense. 419 00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:34,199 Both George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush... 420 00:31:34,367 --> 00:31:37,598 worked for the Carlyle Group, the same company that counted... 421 00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:40,501 the Bin Laden family among its investors. 422 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,636 The Carlyle Group was holding its annual investor conference... 423 00:31:44,811 --> 00:31:46,608 on the morning of September 11th... 424 00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:49,180 in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Washington D.C. 425 00:31:49,349 --> 00:31:54,013 At that meeting were all of the Carlyle regulars... 426 00:31:54,187 --> 00:31:57,645 James Baker, likely John Major, definitely George H.W. Bush... 427 00:31:57,824 --> 00:32:00,384 though he left the morning of September 11th. 428 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,519 Shafiq Bin Laden, who is Osama Bin Laden's half brother... 429 00:32:04,698 --> 00:32:10,159 was in town to look after his family's investments in the Carlyle Group. 430 00:32:10,337 --> 00:32:12,396 All of them together in one room, watching... 431 00:32:12,572 --> 00:32:15,837 as the planes hit the towers. 432 00:32:16,009 --> 00:32:18,034 In fact, the Bin Laden family was invested... 433 00:32:18,211 --> 00:32:21,942 in one of their defense funds, which ironically meant... 434 00:32:22,115 --> 00:32:28,076 that as the U.S. increased defense spending, the Bin Laden family... 435 00:32:28,254 --> 00:32:31,485 stood to gain from those investments through the Carlyle Group. 436 00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:36,721 Our commander in chief, President George W. Bush. 437 00:32:36,896 --> 00:32:39,091 With all the weapons companies it owned... 438 00:32:39,265 --> 00:32:41,995 the Carlyle Group was, in essence, the 11th largest... 439 00:32:42,168 --> 00:32:45,035 defense contractor in the United States. 440 00:32:45,205 --> 00:32:48,732 - Thanks a lot. - It owned United Defense... 441 00:32:48,975 --> 00:32:52,308 makers of the Bradley armored fighting vehicle. 442 00:32:52,479 --> 00:32:56,074 September 11th guaranteed that United Defense... 443 00:32:56,249 --> 00:32:59,377 was going to have a very good year. 444 00:33:01,654 --> 00:33:03,986 Just six weeks after 9/11... 445 00:33:04,157 --> 00:33:07,092 Carlyle filed to take United Defense public... 446 00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:13,085 and made a one-day profit of $237 million. 447 00:33:13,167 --> 00:33:16,058 But sadly, with so much attention focused... 448 00:33:16,236 --> 00:33:19,728 on the Bin Laden family being important Carlyle investors... 449 00:33:19,973 --> 00:33:22,533 the Bin Ladens eventually had to withdraw. 450 00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:25,644 Bush's dad, though, stayed on as senior adviser... 451 00:33:25,812 --> 00:33:29,509 to Carlyle's Asia board for another two years. 452 00:33:29,682 --> 00:33:35,643 As unseemly as it seems to know that George H.W. Bush... 453 00:33:35,822 --> 00:33:38,120 was meeting with the Bin Laden family... 454 00:33:38,291 --> 00:33:44,719 while Osama was a wanted terrorist, well before September 11th... 455 00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:49,426 it's very discomforting for Americans to know that. 456 00:33:49,602 --> 00:33:54,266 George H.W. Bush is a man who has, obviously, incredible reach... 457 00:33:54,441 --> 00:33:55,931 into the White House. 458 00:33:56,409 --> 00:34:01,472 He receives daily CIA briefings, which is the right of any ex-president... 459 00:34:01,648 --> 00:34:05,948 but very few ex-presidents actually exercise that right. He does. 460 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:10,613 And, I think, in a very real way they are benefiting from the confusion... 461 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:14,021 that arises when George H.W. Bush visits Saudi Arabia... 462 00:34:14,194 --> 00:34:17,994 on behalf of Carlyle and meets with the royal family... 463 00:34:18,164 --> 00:34:20,496 and meets with the Bin Laden family. 464 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,397 Is he representing the United States of America? 465 00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:27,165 Or is he representing an investment firm in the United States? 466 00:34:27,340 --> 00:34:29,205 Or is he representing both? 467 00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:32,776 This company is about money, not conspiracies to run the world... 468 00:34:32,946 --> 00:34:37,315 or engineer political maneuvering and things like that. 469 00:34:37,484 --> 00:34:40,715 It's about making money, and it's about making a lot of money. 470 00:34:40,887 --> 00:34:43,287 And they've done very well. 471 00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:46,588 I could get you on-the-record on this question. 472 00:34:46,762 --> 00:34:52,088 In the White House view, there is no ethical conflict... 473 00:34:52,265 --> 00:34:57,168 in former President Bush and former Secretary of State Jim Baker... 474 00:34:57,337 --> 00:35:00,363 using their contacts with world leaders to represent... 475 00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:05,500 one of the most well-known military arms dealers, the Carlyle Group? 476 00:35:05,678 --> 00:35:10,377 The president has full faith that his family will conform... 477 00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:14,418 with all proper ethics laws and will act properly in their conduct. 478 00:35:14,587 --> 00:35:18,523 Okay, let's say one group of people, like the American people... 479 00:35:18,691 --> 00:35:21,956 pay you $400,000 a year to be president of the United States. 480 00:35:23,696 --> 00:35:27,188 But then another group of people invest in you, your friends... 481 00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:32,168 and their related businesses, $1.4 billion over a number of years. 482 00:35:32,338 --> 00:35:35,068 Who are you gonna like? Who's your daddy? 483 00:35:35,642 --> 00:35:38,577 That's how much the Saudi royals and their associates... 484 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:44,513 have given the Bush family, their friends and their related businesses... 485 00:35:44,684 --> 00:35:46,379 in the past three decades. 486 00:35:46,553 --> 00:35:48,987 Seems like a very nice reunion with friends. 487 00:35:49,155 --> 00:35:51,749 Is it rude to suggest that when the Bush family... 488 00:35:51,925 --> 00:35:54,689 wakes up in the morning, they might be thinking... 489 00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:59,889 about what's best for the Saudis instead of what's best for you or me? 490 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,336 Because 1.4 billion just doesn't buy a lot of flights out of the country. 491 00:36:04,504 --> 00:36:06,699 It buys a lot of love. 492 00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:00,923 Sooner or later, this special relationship... 493 00:37:01,094 --> 00:37:03,961 with a regime that Amnesty International condemns... 494 00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:06,655 as a widespread human-rights violator... 495 00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:08,596 would come back to haunt the Bushes. 496 00:37:08,637 --> 00:37:12,605 Now, after 9/11, it was an embarrassment. 497 00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:16,299 And they preferred that no one ask any questions. 498 00:37:16,476 --> 00:37:18,740 Investigation should have begun on September 12th. 499 00:37:20,113 --> 00:37:23,446 There's no reason it shouldn't have. Three thousand were dead. 500 00:37:23,616 --> 00:37:26,141 It should've gotten started immediately. 501 00:37:26,319 --> 00:37:28,719 First, Bush tried to stop Congress from setting up... 502 00:37:28,823 --> 00:37:33,859 - its own 9/11 investigation. - It's important for us... 503 00:37:34,661 --> 00:37:36,993 to not reveal how we collect information. 504 00:37:37,163 --> 00:37:40,291 That's what the enemy wants. And we're fighting an enemy. 505 00:37:40,466 --> 00:37:43,401 When he couldn't stop Congress, he then tried to stop... 506 00:37:43,569 --> 00:37:46,629 an independent 9/11 commission from being formed. 507 00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,070 The president's position was a break from history. 508 00:37:49,242 --> 00:37:52,177 Independent investigations were launched within days after Pearl Harbor... 509 00:37:52,345 --> 00:37:54,210 and President Kennedy's assassination. 510 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:57,247 But when Congress did complete its own investigation... 511 00:37:57,417 --> 00:38:00,580 the Bush White House censored 28 pages of the report. 512 00:38:00,753 --> 00:38:04,621 The president is being pressed by all sides to declassify the report. 513 00:38:04,791 --> 00:38:07,726 U.S. officials tell NBC News most of the secret sources... 514 00:38:07,894 --> 00:38:09,555 involve Saudi Arabia. 515 00:38:09,729 --> 00:38:15,429 We've given extraordinary cooperation with Chairmen Kean and Hamilton. 516 00:38:15,601 --> 00:38:17,592 We haven't gotten the materials we needed... 517 00:38:17,605 --> 00:38:21,432 and certainly haven't gotten them in a timely fashion. 518 00:38:21,607 --> 00:38:23,598 Will you testify before the commission? 519 00:38:23,776 --> 00:38:28,110 This commission? You know, I don't, testify? I'd be glad to visit with them. 520 00:38:28,281 --> 00:38:31,842 What it will do is, the hole that's in my heart... 521 00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:36,150 and has been in my heart since September 11th... 522 00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:42,022 I lost my husband of 15 years. I am now by myself. 523 00:38:43,563 --> 00:38:46,532 I need to know what happened to him. 524 00:38:47,266 --> 00:38:52,761 I know what I got back from the autopsy. 525 00:38:52,939 --> 00:38:57,501 That man was my life, and I have no plan. 526 00:38:57,677 --> 00:39:00,578 I was taking a class, and they asked me... 527 00:39:00,747 --> 00:39:03,181 what was I gonna do in the next five years. 528 00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:06,944 And if I'm not doing something with this, I don't know what reason... 529 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,749 I have to live. So it's very important. 530 00:39:11,557 --> 00:39:15,049 Very important. Okay. 531 00:39:15,695 --> 00:39:17,219 Okay. 532 00:39:18,631 --> 00:39:20,724 Ignored by the Bush administration... 533 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,926 more than 500 relatives of 9/11 victims... 534 00:39:24,103 --> 00:39:27,368 filed suit against Saudi royals and others. 535 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,974 The lawyers the Saudi defense minister hired... 536 00:39:30,143 --> 00:39:32,111 to fight the 9/11 families? 537 00:39:32,278 --> 00:39:37,716 The law firm of Bush family confidant, James A. Baker. 538 00:39:37,884 --> 00:39:41,445 So right here in the center of three important American landmarks... 539 00:39:41,621 --> 00:39:45,148 the Watergate Hotel and office building... 540 00:39:45,324 --> 00:39:47,690 the Kennedy Center over there... 541 00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:52,354 and the embassy of Saudi Arabia. 542 00:39:52,698 --> 00:39:53,960 Yeah. 543 00:39:54,133 --> 00:39:57,762 How much money do the Saudis have invested in America, roughly? 544 00:39:57,937 --> 00:40:01,839 I've heard figures as high as $860 billion. 545 00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:05,000 - Eight hundred and sixty billion? - Billion. 546 00:40:05,178 --> 00:40:07,612 - That's a lot of money. - A lot, yeah. 547 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:12,376 And what percentage of our economy does that represent? 548 00:40:12,552 --> 00:40:13,814 It seems like a lot. 549 00:40:13,986 --> 00:40:17,786 Well, in terms of investments on Wall Street in American equities... 550 00:40:17,957 --> 00:40:21,620 it's roughly 6 or 7 percent of America. 551 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,319 They own a fairly good slice of America. 552 00:40:24,497 --> 00:40:27,557 Most of that money goes into the great blue-chip companies. 553 00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:31,669 Citigroup, Citibank, the largest stockholder is a Saudi. 554 00:40:31,838 --> 00:40:35,501 AOL-Time Warner has big Saudi investors. 555 00:40:35,675 --> 00:40:38,803 So I read where, like, the Saudis have a trillion dollars... 556 00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:41,970 in our banks of their money. What would happen if one day... 557 00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:44,116 they pulled that trillion out? 558 00:40:44,283 --> 00:40:47,810 A trillion dollars? That would be an enormous blow to the economy. 559 00:40:48,588 --> 00:40:50,818 Can I speak to you for a moment, please, sir? 560 00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:53,424 - How are you doing? - Good, how you doing? 561 00:40:53,593 --> 00:40:57,586 Steve Kimball with the Secret Service. We're just ascertaining information. 562 00:40:57,763 --> 00:41:00,732 Are you doing a documentary on the Saudi Arabian Embassy? 563 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,927 No. I am doing a documentary, and part of it is about Saudi Arabia. 564 00:41:05,104 --> 00:41:07,766 Even though we were nowhere near the White House... 565 00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:11,671 the Secret Service had shown up to ask us what we were doing... 566 00:41:11,844 --> 00:41:14,244 standing across the street from the Saudi Embassy. 567 00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:17,075 - We're not here to cause any trouble. - Okay. 568 00:41:17,717 --> 00:41:19,810 - You know. Is that...? - No, that's fine. 569 00:41:19,986 --> 00:41:23,012 We just wanted to get some information as far as... 570 00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:24,622 What's going on, yeah. 571 00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:27,987 I didn't realize the Secret Service guards foreign embassies. 572 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,152 - Not usually, no, sir. - No. Do they give you any trouble? 573 00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:34,322 - Saudis? - No comment on that. 574 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,297 Okay, I'll take that as a yes. 575 00:41:36,469 --> 00:41:37,834 Good. Thank you very much. 576 00:41:38,004 --> 00:41:40,666 It turns out that Saudi Prince Bandar is perhaps... 577 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,104 the best-protected ambassador in the U.S. 578 00:41:43,276 --> 00:41:47,406 The U.S. State Department provides him with a six-man security detail. 579 00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,515 Considering how he and his family and the Saudi elite... 580 00:41:50,683 --> 00:41:55,780 own 7 percent of America, it's probably not a bad idea. 581 00:41:57,223 --> 00:41:59,453 Prince Bandar was so close to the Bushes... 582 00:41:59,625 --> 00:42:02,025 they considered him a member of the family. 583 00:42:02,194 --> 00:42:05,493 They even had a nickname for him, Bandar Bush. 584 00:42:05,665 --> 00:42:10,034 Two nights after September 11th, George Bush invited Bandar Bush... 585 00:42:10,202 --> 00:42:14,332 over to the White House for a private dinner and a talk. 586 00:42:14,507 --> 00:42:17,135 Even though Bin Laden was a Saudi... 587 00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:20,143 and Saudi money had funded al Qaeda... 588 00:42:20,313 --> 00:42:23,942 and 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis... 589 00:42:24,216 --> 00:42:27,947 here was the Saudi ambassador, casually dining with the president... 590 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,520 on September 13th. 591 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:33,852 What were they talking about? 592 00:42:34,026 --> 00:42:38,156 Were they commiserating or comparing notes? 593 00:42:39,298 --> 00:42:41,357 Why would Bandar's government... 594 00:42:41,834 --> 00:42:45,167 block American investigators from talking to the relatives... 595 00:42:45,338 --> 00:42:47,829 of the 15 hijackers? 596 00:42:49,542 --> 00:42:51,772 Why would Saudi Arabia become reluctant... 597 00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,174 to freeze the hijackers' assets? 598 00:42:57,817 --> 00:43:00,479 The two of them walked out on the Truman Balcony... 599 00:43:00,653 --> 00:43:04,145 so that Bandar could smoke a cigar and have a drink. 600 00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:10,358 In the distance, across the Potomac, was the Pentagon, partially in ruins. 601 00:43:10,529 --> 00:43:14,659 I wonder if Mr. Bush told Prince Bandar not to worry... 602 00:43:14,834 --> 00:43:18,531 because he already had a plan in motion. 603 00:43:19,005 --> 00:43:20,765 You come in September 12th... 604 00:43:20,908 --> 00:43:26,066 ready to plot our response to al Qaeda. Let me talk about the response... 605 00:43:26,245 --> 00:43:28,645 you got from top administration officials. 606 00:43:28,814 --> 00:43:31,248 On that day, what did the president say to you? 607 00:43:31,417 --> 00:43:35,751 The president, in a very intimidating way, left us, me and my staff... 608 00:43:35,921 --> 00:43:38,890 with the clear indication he wanted us to come back... 609 00:43:39,058 --> 00:43:42,084 with the word that there was an Iraqi hand behind 9/11. 610 00:43:42,261 --> 00:43:45,992 They planned to do something about Iraq before they came into office. 611 00:43:46,165 --> 00:43:49,032 Did he ask about any other nations other than Iraq? 612 00:43:49,201 --> 00:43:52,602 No, not at all. It was, Iraq, Saddam, find out, get back to me. 613 00:43:52,772 --> 00:43:55,366 Were his questions more about Iraq than al Qaeda? 614 00:43:55,541 --> 00:43:57,805 Absolutely. He didn't ask me about al Qaeda. 615 00:43:57,977 --> 00:44:00,946 And the reaction you got from the defense secretary, Rumsfeld... 616 00:44:01,113 --> 00:44:03,513 from his assistant, Paul Wolfowitz? 617 00:44:03,683 --> 00:44:06,151 Donald Rumsfeld said, when we talked about bombing... 618 00:44:06,318 --> 00:44:08,513 the al Qaeda infrastructure in Afghanistan... 619 00:44:08,688 --> 00:44:11,213 he said, there are no good targets in Afghanistan. 620 00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:12,618 Let's bomb Iraq. 621 00:44:12,792 --> 00:44:15,488 And we said, but Iraq had nothing to do with this. 622 00:44:15,661 --> 00:44:18,596 That didn't make much difference. The reason they had... 623 00:44:18,764 --> 00:44:22,495 to do Afghanistan first was, it was obvious al Qaeda attacked us. 624 00:44:22,668 --> 00:44:25,569 And it was obvious that al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. 625 00:44:25,738 --> 00:44:29,265 Americans wouldn't stand by if we'd done nothing on Afghanistan. 626 00:44:45,758 --> 00:44:48,591 The United States began bombing Afghanistan... 627 00:44:48,761 --> 00:44:52,322 just four weeks after 9/11. Mr. Bush said he was doing so... 628 00:44:52,498 --> 00:44:55,160 because the Taliban government of Afghanistan... 629 00:44:55,334 --> 00:44:57,825 had been harboring Bin Laden. 630 00:44:58,838 --> 00:45:00,567 We will smoke them out of their holes. 631 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,105 We're gonna smoke them out. 632 00:45:02,274 --> 00:45:06,301 - We'll smoke him out of his cave. - Let's rush them and smoke them out. 633 00:45:06,479 --> 00:45:11,178 For all his tough talk, Bush really didn't do much. 634 00:45:11,350 --> 00:45:14,342 Well, what they did was slow and small. 635 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,546 They put only 11,000 troops into Afghanistan. 636 00:45:17,723 --> 00:45:19,782 There are more police here in Manhattan. 637 00:45:19,959 --> 00:45:23,360 More in Manhattan than there are U.S. troops in Afghanistan. 638 00:45:23,529 --> 00:45:27,488 The president botched the response. He should have gone right after Bin Laden. 639 00:45:27,666 --> 00:45:31,397 The U.S. Special Forces didn't get into the area where Bin Laden was... 640 00:45:31,570 --> 00:45:35,165 - for two months. - Two months? 641 00:45:35,341 --> 00:45:37,866 A mass murderer who attacked the United States... 642 00:45:38,043 --> 00:45:40,534 was given a two-month head start? 643 00:45:40,713 --> 00:45:43,375 Who in their right mind would do that? 644 00:45:43,549 --> 00:45:46,279 - Dang! Anybody say nice shot? - Nice shot. 645 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:48,010 Hell of a shot. 646 00:45:48,187 --> 00:45:51,850 Or was the war in Afghanistan really about something else? 647 00:45:52,024 --> 00:45:55,551 Perhaps the answer was in Houston, Texas. 648 00:45:58,164 --> 00:46:01,998 In 1997, while George W. Bush was governor of Texas... 649 00:46:02,168 --> 00:46:06,400 a delegation of Taliban leaders from Afghanistan flew to Houston... 650 00:46:06,572 --> 00:46:08,631 to meet with Unocal executives... 651 00:46:08,808 --> 00:46:12,107 to discuss the building of a pipeline through Afghanistan... 652 00:46:12,278 --> 00:46:15,304 bringing natural gas from the Caspian Sea. 653 00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:17,972 And who got a Caspian Sea drilling contract... 654 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:20,983 the same day Unocal signed the pipeline deal? 655 00:46:21,153 --> 00:46:25,021 A company headed by a man named Dick Cheney. Halliburton. 656 00:46:25,191 --> 00:46:27,352 From the point of view of the U.S. government... 657 00:46:27,461 --> 00:46:30,758 this was kind of a magic pipeline... 658 00:46:30,930 --> 00:46:33,262 because it could serve so many purposes. 659 00:46:33,432 --> 00:46:36,799 And who else stood to benefit from the pipeline? 660 00:46:36,969 --> 00:46:40,268 Bush's number-one campaign contributor, Kenneth Lay... 661 00:46:40,439 --> 00:46:42,907 and the good people of Enron. 662 00:46:43,244 --> 00:46:47,074 Only the British press covered this trip. 663 00:46:47,446 --> 00:46:51,075 Then in 2001, just five and a half months before 9/11... 664 00:46:51,451 --> 00:46:55,119 the Bush administration welcomed a special Taliban envoy... 665 00:46:55,287 --> 00:46:56,845 to tour the United States... 666 00:46:57,022 --> 00:46:59,889 to help improve the image of the Taliban government. 667 00:47:00,059 --> 00:47:03,620 You have imprisoned the women. It's a horror, let me tell you. 668 00:47:03,796 --> 00:47:07,095 I'm sorry to your husband. He must have a difficult time with you. 669 00:47:07,266 --> 00:47:10,064 Here is the Taliban official visiting our State Department... 670 00:47:10,207 --> 00:47:13,332 to meet with U.S. officials. 671 00:47:14,139 --> 00:47:17,370 Why would the Bush administration allow a Taliban leader... 672 00:47:17,543 --> 00:47:20,569 to visit the United States, knowing that the Taliban... 673 00:47:20,746 --> 00:47:24,045 were harboring the man who bombed the U.S.S. Cole... 674 00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:26,776 and our African embassies? 675 00:47:26,952 --> 00:47:30,581 Well, I guess 9/11 put a stop to that. 676 00:47:30,756 --> 00:47:33,748 When the invasion of Afghanistan was complete... 677 00:47:33,926 --> 00:47:37,259 we installed its new president, Hamid Karzai. 678 00:47:37,429 --> 00:47:39,795 Who was Hamid Karzai? 679 00:47:39,965 --> 00:47:43,401 He was a former adviser to Unocal. 680 00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:46,561 Bush also appointed, as our envoy to Afghanistan... 681 00:47:46,739 --> 00:47:52,302 Zalmay Khalilzad, who was also a former Unocal adviser. 682 00:47:53,312 --> 00:47:57,078 I guess you can probably see where this is leading. 683 00:47:57,249 --> 00:48:00,514 Faster than you can say, Black gold, Texas tea, Afghanistan signed... 684 00:48:00,686 --> 00:48:03,086 an agreement with her neighboring countries... 685 00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:08,352 to build a pipeline carrying natural gas from the Caspian Sea. 686 00:48:08,861 --> 00:48:10,852 Oh, and the Taliban? 687 00:48:11,797 --> 00:48:14,288 Oh, they mostly got away. 688 00:48:14,833 --> 00:48:18,098 As did Osama Bin Laden and most of al Qaeda. 689 00:48:18,570 --> 00:48:21,198 Terror is bigger than one person. 690 00:48:21,373 --> 00:48:25,673 And he's a person who's now been marginalized. 691 00:48:25,844 --> 00:48:27,334 So I don't know where he is. 692 00:48:27,513 --> 00:48:30,812 I just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you. 693 00:48:30,983 --> 00:48:34,942 Didn't spend much time on him? What kind of president was he? 694 00:48:35,254 --> 00:48:39,054 I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office... 695 00:48:39,224 --> 00:48:42,523 in foreign policy matters with war on my mind. 696 00:48:43,128 --> 00:48:46,620 With the war in Afghanistan over and Bin Laden forgotten... 697 00:48:46,799 --> 00:48:49,393 the war president had a new target. 698 00:48:51,603 --> 00:48:54,231 The American people. 699 00:48:57,509 --> 00:49:01,070 We've got an unusual terror warning from the feds to tell you about. 700 00:49:01,246 --> 00:49:03,305 Fox News has obtained an FBI bulletin... 701 00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:06,940 that warns terrorists could use pen guns, like in James Bond... 702 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,144 - filled with poison as weapons. - Good evening. 703 00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:12,882 America is on high alert tonight, just four days before Christmas. 704 00:49:13,058 --> 00:49:17,495 - A possible terror threat. - As bad as or worse than 9/11. 705 00:49:17,663 --> 00:49:21,258 But where? How? There's nothing specific to report. 706 00:49:21,433 --> 00:49:25,369 Be on the lookout for model airplanes packed with explosives. 707 00:49:27,072 --> 00:49:30,633 The FBI is warning ferries may be considered particularly at risk... 708 00:49:30,809 --> 00:49:32,743 for hijacking. 709 00:49:33,946 --> 00:49:37,143 Could these cattle be a target for terrorists? 710 00:49:39,284 --> 00:49:42,408 - Fear works. - Fear does work, yes. 711 00:49:42,509 --> 00:49:45,654 You can make people do anything if they're afraid. 712 00:49:45,824 --> 00:49:47,587 And how do you make them afraid? 713 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,426 Well, you make them afraid by creating an aura of endless threat. 714 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:55,191 They played us like an organ. 715 00:49:55,367 --> 00:50:00,236 They raised the orange, up to red, then they dropped it back to orange. 716 00:50:00,406 --> 00:50:04,433 I mean, they gave these mixed messages, which were crazy-making. 717 00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:07,977 The world is changed after September the 11th. 718 00:50:08,147 --> 00:50:10,479 It's changed because we're no longer safe. 719 00:50:10,649 --> 00:50:14,881 Fly and enjoy America's great destination spots. 720 00:50:15,054 --> 00:50:18,080 We have entered what may prove to be the most dangerous... 721 00:50:18,257 --> 00:50:20,452 security environment the world's known. 722 00:50:20,626 --> 00:50:23,117 Take your families and enjoy life. 723 00:50:23,295 --> 00:50:25,525 Terrorists are doing everything they can... 724 00:50:25,697 --> 00:50:27,995 to gain even deadlier means of striking us. 725 00:50:28,534 --> 00:50:32,368 - Go down to Disney World in Florida. - It's like training a dog. 726 00:50:32,538 --> 00:50:36,372 You tell him sit down and roll over at the same time, dog doesn't know... 727 00:50:36,542 --> 00:50:39,602 what to do. American people were being treated like that. 728 00:50:39,778 --> 00:50:44,681 It was very, very skillfully and ugly, in what they did. 729 00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:47,284 We must stop the terror. 730 00:50:47,453 --> 00:50:53,858 I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. 731 00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:56,185 Thank you. 732 00:50:56,361 --> 00:50:57,589 Now watch this drive. 733 00:51:00,432 --> 00:51:02,297 All right. You give me another one. 734 00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:07,664 They will continue, in my view, as long as this administration is in charge... 735 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,072 of every once in a while, stimulating everybody to be afraid. 736 00:51:12,244 --> 00:51:13,677 Just in case you forgot. 737 00:51:13,846 --> 00:51:18,146 It's not gonna go down to green or blue. It's never gonna get there. 738 00:51:18,317 --> 00:51:21,753 There clearly is no way that anyone... 739 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,219 can live constantly on edge like that. 740 00:51:25,390 --> 00:51:28,103 The harsh reality facing American families today... 741 00:51:28,127 --> 00:51:30,820 is they're not as safe as they used to be. 742 00:51:30,996 --> 00:51:33,590 Drug dealers and users looking for their next fix. 743 00:51:33,765 --> 00:51:36,791 Gangs who roam the streets in search of their next victim. 744 00:51:36,969 --> 00:51:40,564 And the growing threat of terrorists means the need for protection... 745 00:51:40,739 --> 00:51:43,970 is ever greater, and now that protection is here. 746 00:51:44,143 --> 00:51:48,512 Zytech Engineering LLC has developed and tested a safe room... 747 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,649 finally affordable to the average American citizen. 748 00:51:51,817 --> 00:51:55,583 Protection formerly obtainable only by the wealthy or powerful. 749 00:51:55,754 --> 00:51:59,315 Heck, you can be sitting in here, drinking your finest Bordeaux... 750 00:51:59,491 --> 00:52:03,655 and enjoying life, while chaos is erupting outside. 751 00:52:04,029 --> 00:52:07,123 Every family in America should prepare itself... 752 00:52:07,299 --> 00:52:09,062 for a terrorist attack. 753 00:52:09,535 --> 00:52:13,062 Now to escaping from a skyscraper. John Rivers is the CEO... 754 00:52:13,238 --> 00:52:17,538 of the Executive Chute Corporation. Good morning to you, John. 755 00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:20,769 - Good morning, Matt. - Tell me about the product. 756 00:52:20,946 --> 00:52:25,042 It's an emergency escape chute. It's an option of last resort. 757 00:52:25,217 --> 00:52:27,242 How high do you have to be in the building... 758 00:52:27,419 --> 00:52:30,047 for that chute to actually take effect? 759 00:52:30,222 --> 00:52:33,020 You only have to be on the 10th floor or above. 760 00:52:33,192 --> 00:52:35,217 They can put this on themselves? 761 00:52:35,394 --> 00:52:37,794 Right. They can put this on themselves in as easy... 762 00:52:37,963 --> 00:52:41,091 as about 30 seconds. It's real easy to put on. 763 00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:42,831 - Here. - Sorry. 764 00:52:43,001 --> 00:52:46,528 That's okay. Real easy to put on, but... 765 00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:50,937 When you first get this chute, you're gonna wanna put it on... 766 00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:54,875 - and try it on a few times yourself. - Jaime's having trouble putting that on. 767 00:52:55,047 --> 00:52:59,450 Is this something that you honestly think, in a moment of panic... 768 00:52:59,618 --> 00:53:02,917 that someone can operate properly? 769 00:53:03,088 --> 00:53:06,717 Oh, yeah. It is. This is actually, Jamie's probably never... 770 00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:09,122 put this thing on before in her life. 771 00:53:09,928 --> 00:53:12,590 It's okay. It's something that, when you get it... 772 00:53:12,764 --> 00:53:15,164 you're gonna wanna put it on several times. 773 00:53:15,334 --> 00:53:18,997 Despite the raising of the terror alert level, residents here continue... 774 00:53:19,171 --> 00:53:20,968 with their Christmas errands. 775 00:53:21,139 --> 00:53:24,370 Frances and her family do some last-minute holiday shopping... 776 00:53:24,543 --> 00:53:26,977 knowing al Qaeda is planning to attack America. 777 00:53:27,145 --> 00:53:30,308 She says being in Saginaw doesn't make her feel any safer... 778 00:53:30,482 --> 00:53:32,507 than if she was in New York City. 779 00:53:32,604 --> 00:53:33,912 Midland is close by... 780 00:53:34,087 --> 00:53:37,512 and I said, Detroit's not that far away. 781 00:53:37,689 --> 00:53:41,648 I said, that could be something, and Flint could be something, be... 782 00:53:41,827 --> 00:53:44,762 - concerns for people around here. - You never know... 783 00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:46,955 where they're gonna hit, never know. 784 00:53:47,132 --> 00:53:50,260 But one potential target specifically mentioned by the terrorists... 785 00:53:50,435 --> 00:53:54,769 has security officials baffled. It's tiny Tappahannock, Virginia. 786 00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:56,601 Population, 2016. 787 00:53:56,775 --> 00:53:59,903 Such an attack could generate widespread fear... 788 00:54:00,078 --> 00:54:05,482 that even here in rural, small-town America, no one is entirely safe. 789 00:54:05,752 --> 00:54:09,486 On the 6 'o clock news there was an alert in Tappahannock. 790 00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:12,688 - What did the FBI tell you? - Well, they contacted me by phone. 791 00:54:14,326 --> 00:54:17,124 Basically let me know about this, were it Tappahannock. 792 00:54:17,296 --> 00:54:21,062 - That's how it started. - In the so-called chatter they pick up... 793 00:54:21,233 --> 00:54:24,691 they wasn't sure Tappahannock. There's a Rappahannock County... 794 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:27,771 - Rappahannock River. - There is a Rappahannock... 795 00:54:27,939 --> 00:54:30,533 A place called Rappahannock. They got it mixed up. 796 00:54:31,243 --> 00:54:33,711 This is Tappahannock, not Rappahannock. 797 00:54:33,879 --> 00:54:37,007 - Is there any target around here? - Not that we can think of. 798 00:54:37,182 --> 00:54:39,047 - It can happen anywhere. - Wal-Mart. 799 00:54:39,217 --> 00:54:41,185 A big spaghetti supper in here. 800 00:54:41,353 --> 00:54:42,650 Wal-Mart, probably. 801 00:54:42,821 --> 00:54:45,221 Do you feel extra suspicious of outsiders? 802 00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:47,449 Oh, everybody does that. 803 00:54:47,626 --> 00:54:49,526 That's just something that happens. 804 00:54:49,695 --> 00:54:53,153 When I look at certain people, I wonder, oh, my goodness. 805 00:54:53,332 --> 00:54:55,493 Do you think they could be a terrorist? 806 00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:57,794 - Never know what's gonna happen. - Right. 807 00:54:57,969 --> 00:54:59,436 It could happen right now. 808 00:55:00,372 --> 00:55:02,897 Never trust nobody you don't know. 809 00:55:03,709 --> 00:55:07,372 And even if you do know them, you really can't trust them then. 810 00:55:07,746 --> 00:55:10,738 From Tappahannock to Rappahannock... 811 00:55:10,916 --> 00:55:15,580 to every town and village in America, the people were afraid. 812 00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:18,512 And they turned to their leader to protect them. 813 00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:21,955 But protect them from what? 814 00:55:47,352 --> 00:55:49,582 Meet John Ashcroft. 815 00:55:49,755 --> 00:55:54,192 In 2000, he was running for re-election as senator for Missouri... 816 00:55:54,359 --> 00:55:58,523 against a man who died the month before the election. 817 00:55:58,697 --> 00:56:01,757 The voters preferred the dead guy. 818 00:56:01,933 --> 00:56:06,563 So George W. Bush made him his attorney general. 819 00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:09,104 He was sworn in on a stack of Bibles. 820 00:56:09,274 --> 00:56:11,401 Because when you can't beat a dead guy... 821 00:56:11,576 --> 00:56:13,874 you need all the help you can get. 822 00:56:14,045 --> 00:56:16,070 During the summer before 9/11... 823 00:56:16,248 --> 00:56:19,240 Ashcroft told acting FBI director, Thomas Pickard... 824 00:56:19,418 --> 00:56:23,115 that he didn't want to hear anything more about terrorist threats. 825 00:56:23,288 --> 00:56:27,554 Mr. Watson had come to you and said that the CIA was very concerned... 826 00:56:27,726 --> 00:56:29,694 that there would be an attack. 827 00:56:29,861 --> 00:56:34,264 You said that you told the attorney general this fact repeatedly... 828 00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:36,424 in these meetings. That correct? 829 00:56:36,601 --> 00:56:39,798 I've told him at least on two occasions. 830 00:56:39,971 --> 00:56:42,633 And you told the staff, according to this statement... 831 00:56:42,808 --> 00:56:47,472 Mr. Ashcroft told you that he did not want to hear about this anymore. 832 00:56:47,646 --> 00:56:50,342 - Is that correct? - That is correct. 833 00:56:50,515 --> 00:56:53,916 His own FBI knew that summer there were al Qaeda members... 834 00:56:54,085 --> 00:56:58,044 in the U.S. and Bin Laden was sending his agents to flight schools... 835 00:56:58,223 --> 00:56:59,850 around the country. 836 00:57:00,025 --> 00:57:03,552 But Ashcroft's Justice Department turned a blind eye... 837 00:57:03,728 --> 00:57:05,195 and a deaf ear. 838 00:57:05,363 --> 00:57:09,595 But after 9/11, John Ashcroft had some brilliant ideas... 839 00:57:09,768 --> 00:57:11,702 for how to protect America. 840 00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:14,532 The Patriot Act, adopted by Congress and signed by Bush... 841 00:57:14,706 --> 00:57:16,401 six weeks after the attacks... 842 00:57:16,575 --> 00:57:18,975 has changed the way the government does business. 843 00:57:19,144 --> 00:57:23,444 The Patriot Act allows for searches of medical and financial records... 844 00:57:23,615 --> 00:57:25,776 computer and telephone conversations... 845 00:57:25,851 --> 00:57:29,978 and even for the books you take out of the library. But people we spoke to... 846 00:57:30,155 --> 00:57:33,488 say they're willing to give up liberties to fight terrorism. 847 00:57:33,658 --> 00:57:37,992 - Maybe that's a good thing. - It's sad, but it has to be done. 848 00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:41,724 Yes, something needed to be done. 849 00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:45,233 These are the good people who make up Peace Fresno. 850 00:57:45,403 --> 00:57:48,463 A community group in Fresno, California. 851 00:57:48,907 --> 00:57:52,343 Unlike the rest of us, they received an early lesson... 852 00:57:52,511 --> 00:57:55,241 in what the Patriot Act is all about. 853 00:57:55,413 --> 00:57:59,747 Each week, they meet to discuss matters of peace. 854 00:57:59,918 --> 00:58:05,288 They sit around, they share stories, they eat cookies. 855 00:58:05,457 --> 00:58:08,051 Some have more than one. 856 00:58:09,027 --> 00:58:12,690 This is Aaron Stokes, a member of Peace Fresno. 857 00:58:13,265 --> 00:58:14,857 The other members liked him. 858 00:58:15,033 --> 00:58:17,763 He had come to the meetings, he went with us. 859 00:58:17,936 --> 00:58:21,872 We go out on Friday nights and stand on a very busy corner in Fresno. 860 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,168 And he had gone with us, he had handed out fliers. 861 00:58:25,343 --> 00:58:29,473 He went with us in June to a WTO protest. 862 00:58:29,648 --> 00:58:32,549 Then one day, Aaron didn't show up to the meeting. 863 00:58:32,717 --> 00:58:36,050 My friend Dan and I were reading the Sunday newspaper... 864 00:58:36,221 --> 00:58:39,884 and when I picked up the paper, in the local section... 865 00:58:40,058 --> 00:58:41,787 Aaron's picture caught my eye. 866 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,020 The article said that a sheriff's deputy had been killed... 867 00:58:45,196 --> 00:58:48,723 and I saw it had a name that wasn't the right name... 868 00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:54,270 that said that he was a member of the sheriff's antiterrorism unit. 869 00:58:54,439 --> 00:58:55,804 That's right. 870 00:58:55,974 --> 00:58:58,534 The photo of the man in the newspaper... 871 00:58:58,743 --> 00:59:02,042 was not the Aaron Stokes they had come to know. 872 00:59:02,213 --> 00:59:08,675 He was actually Deputy Aaron Kilner, and he had infiltrated their group. 873 00:59:08,853 --> 00:59:11,549 Sheriff Pierce made it very clear that, yes... 874 00:59:11,723 --> 00:59:14,783 Aaron Kilner was assigned to infiltrate Peace Fresno... 875 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,191 that he was able to infiltrate organizations... 876 00:59:18,363 --> 00:59:20,126 that are open to the public. 877 00:59:20,532 --> 00:59:23,228 You could understand why the police needed to spy... 878 00:59:23,401 --> 00:59:25,164 on a group like Peace Fresno. 879 00:59:25,503 --> 00:59:27,198 Just look at them. 880 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,001 A gathering of terrorists if I ever saw one. 881 00:59:32,644 --> 00:59:35,636 This is Barry Reingold, a retired phone worker... 882 00:59:35,814 --> 00:59:38,339 from Oakland, California. 883 00:59:38,516 --> 00:59:41,451 Barry likes to work out in the gym. 884 00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:44,953 Somewhere between his cardio and his strength training... 885 00:59:45,123 --> 00:59:47,614 Barry got political. 886 00:59:47,792 --> 00:59:51,421 We were up in the gym, and it was after we were working out... 887 00:59:51,596 --> 00:59:55,464 and a number of us were talking about 9/11 and Afghanistan... 888 00:59:55,634 --> 01:00:00,003 and Bin Laden, and someone said, Bin Laden's a real asshole... 889 01:00:00,171 --> 01:00:03,504 for murdering those people. And I said, yeah, that's true. 890 01:00:03,675 --> 01:00:07,236 But he'll never be as big an asshole as Bush... 891 01:00:07,412 --> 01:00:10,006 who bombs all over the world for oil profits. 892 01:00:10,181 --> 01:00:13,912 Barry didn't have to worry about the police spying on him. 893 01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:18,016 His fellow weightlifters were more than willing to turn him in. 894 01:00:18,189 --> 01:00:22,990 I was taking a nap, and I guess it was 1:30, 2:00 in the afternoon. 895 01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:27,222 And they came to my place, and I said, well, who's there? 896 01:00:27,399 --> 01:00:32,302 And they said, the FBI. I said, the FBI? Why are they here? 897 01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:37,806 Yes, the FBI had come to see Barry. And they weren't there to Jazzercise. 898 01:00:37,976 --> 01:00:43,812 The FBI said, have you been talking to people about 9/11 and Bin Laden... 899 01:00:43,982 --> 01:00:48,442 and oil profits and Afghanistan? I said, a lot of people are talking... 900 01:00:48,620 --> 01:00:50,417 about these things. 901 01:00:50,588 --> 01:00:54,524 I feel my rights have been, you know, trampled on. 902 01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:58,823 I mean, if you have something to say to me in the gym, well, then fine. 903 01:00:58,997 --> 01:01:04,060 Don't tell the FBI, and they come to my apartment while I'm taking a nap. 904 01:01:04,235 --> 01:01:07,835 There's nothing to be ashamed of here. There's full transparency. 905 01:01:08,073 --> 01:01:11,033 There's nothing about the Patriot Act that I am ashamed of... 906 01:01:11,059 --> 01:01:12,972 in any way, shape or form. 907 01:01:13,144 --> 01:01:15,135 I have a 1-800 number. Call me. 908 01:01:15,315 --> 01:01:19,275 I'm the guy you call if there's a violation or an abuse. 909 01:01:19,452 --> 01:01:23,252 If you've got a poster child on this, I wanna see it. That's what I do. 910 01:01:23,421 --> 01:01:26,879 I'm hired by the people to provide oversight. I provide oversight. 911 01:01:27,058 --> 01:01:29,925 Trent Lott said, the day the bill was introduced... 912 01:01:30,095 --> 01:01:34,327 maybe now we can do things we've wanted to do the last 10 years. 913 01:01:34,733 --> 01:01:39,397 No, a dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, no question about it. 914 01:01:39,571 --> 01:01:43,564 I mean, they had all this on the shelf somewhere. 915 01:01:43,742 --> 01:01:48,111 Ideas of things they would like to do. And they got 9/11... 916 01:01:48,279 --> 01:01:50,770 and they said, it's our chance, go for it. 917 01:01:50,949 --> 01:01:54,510 There was an assumption of the administration... 918 01:01:55,021 --> 01:02:00,314 that there had to be a surrender of certain of our rights. 919 01:02:00,492 --> 01:02:03,302 There's troubling definitions in the bill. 920 01:02:03,363 --> 01:02:09,299 First of all, the definition of terrorist, it's so expansive... 921 01:02:09,467 --> 01:02:13,426 - that it could include people who... - Like me. 922 01:02:13,605 --> 01:02:16,096 No one read it. That's the whole point. 923 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:21,007 They wait till the middle of the night, drop it in the night, print it in the night. 924 01:02:21,179 --> 01:02:23,670 And the next morning when we come in, it passes. 925 01:02:23,882 --> 01:02:29,286 How could Congress pass this Patriot Act without even reading it? 926 01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:31,718 Sit down, my son. 927 01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:36,350 We don't read most of the bills. 928 01:02:36,928 --> 01:02:39,624 Do you really know what that would entail... 929 01:02:39,798 --> 01:02:44,235 if we were to read every bill that we passed? 930 01:02:47,305 --> 01:02:51,173 Well, the good thing, it would slow down the legislative process. 931 01:02:51,342 --> 01:02:54,402 I couldn't believe that virtually no member of Congress... 932 01:02:54,579 --> 01:02:57,309 had read the Patriot Act before voting on it. 933 01:02:57,482 --> 01:03:00,747 So I decided the only patriotic thing to do... 934 01:03:00,919 --> 01:03:04,685 was for me to read it to them. 935 01:03:04,989 --> 01:03:07,549 Members of Congress, this is Michael Moore... 936 01:03:07,725 --> 01:03:10,523 I would like to read you the U.S.A. Patriot Act. 937 01:03:10,695 --> 01:03:11,923 Section 1. 938 01:03:12,096 --> 01:03:15,463 Section 210 of this code reads as follows... 939 01:03:15,633 --> 01:03:17,533 Section 2703C... 940 01:03:17,702 --> 01:03:21,294 My job is to secure the homeland. That's exactly what we're gonna do. 941 01:03:21,472 --> 01:03:24,270 But I'm here to take somebody's order. 942 01:03:24,843 --> 01:03:26,708 That's you, stretch. What would you like? 943 01:03:26,878 --> 01:03:29,278 - Right behind you. - I'm gonna order some ribs. 944 01:03:29,447 --> 01:03:31,711 We all know you can't secure the homeland... 945 01:03:31,783 --> 01:03:34,875 on an empty stomach. And in order to remain secure... 946 01:03:35,053 --> 01:03:37,487 everyone needs to sacrifice. 947 01:03:38,456 --> 01:03:41,516 Especially little Patrick Hamilton. 948 01:03:41,693 --> 01:03:47,495 I'm sure each of us has our own airport-security horror story. 949 01:03:47,899 --> 01:03:50,197 But here's my favorite. 950 01:03:50,368 --> 01:03:54,896 The terrorist threat that was posed by his mommy's breast milk. 951 01:03:55,073 --> 01:03:58,804 I thought if I put a little bit on my lips, that would be sufficient... 952 01:03:58,977 --> 01:04:02,208 because obviously I'm tasting it. She looked at me, and I felt like... 953 01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:06,111 she was telling me, chug that. She goes, you need to drink more. 954 01:04:06,284 --> 01:04:08,548 And of a 4-ounce bottle, I wound up drinking... 955 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,517 2 more ounces of breast milk... 956 01:04:10,688 --> 01:04:13,623 that then, because it's touched my lips, has to be tossed. 957 01:04:14,058 --> 01:04:16,822 While homeland security was making sure breast milk... 958 01:04:16,995 --> 01:04:18,587 was kept off our planes... 959 01:04:18,830 --> 01:04:22,129 they were also doing everything possible to ensure no one... 960 01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,268 could light a firebomb onboard. 961 01:04:24,903 --> 01:04:28,532 - I can bring that on the plane? - Actually, yes, you're fine. 962 01:04:29,140 --> 01:04:30,732 One too many books of matches. 963 01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:33,434 You can have four books and two lighters. 964 01:04:33,611 --> 01:04:37,374 When we already have the experience of the shoe-bomber... 965 01:04:37,548 --> 01:04:39,413 who would have blown up an airplane... 966 01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:42,246 if he had a butane lighter, according to the FBI... 967 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:44,980 why would Transportation Security Agency say it's okay... 968 01:04:45,156 --> 01:04:47,556 to take four books of matches and two lighters... 969 01:04:47,725 --> 01:04:51,894 as you board a plane? I'm guessing somebody put pressure on... 970 01:04:51,963 --> 01:04:55,164 to say, when an airplane lands, people wanna light up... 971 01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:57,130 so don't take their lighters away. 972 01:04:57,302 --> 01:04:59,293 Let me see if I got this straight. 973 01:04:59,470 --> 01:05:03,304 Old guys in the gym, bad. Peace groups in Fresno, bad. 974 01:05:03,474 --> 01:05:04,736 Breast milk, really bad. 975 01:05:04,909 --> 01:05:07,969 Matches and lighters on the plane? Hey, no problem. 976 01:05:08,146 --> 01:05:13,311 Was this really about our safety? Or was something else going on? 977 01:05:15,253 --> 01:05:19,383 This is where the Pacific Ocean meets the shores of Oregon. 978 01:05:19,557 --> 01:05:24,790 Over 100 miles of beautiful, open coastline on our border. 979 01:05:24,963 --> 01:05:28,399 And, thanks to the budget cutbacks... 980 01:05:28,566 --> 01:05:32,093 the total number of state police protecting it... 981 01:05:32,503 --> 01:05:33,936 One. 982 01:05:35,206 --> 01:05:36,901 Part-time. 983 01:05:37,375 --> 01:05:39,434 Meet Trooper Brooks. 984 01:05:39,610 --> 01:05:42,909 I maybe get a chance to hit this stretch of highway... 985 01:05:43,448 --> 01:05:47,782 once, maybe twice a week during my shifts. 986 01:05:47,952 --> 01:05:51,319 You know, just to even drive up here and look. 987 01:05:51,489 --> 01:05:55,585 You know, I mean, as far as I know, there's lots of things they could do. 988 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,196 I don't even wanna suspect, because it just makes me ill inside. 989 01:05:59,530 --> 01:06:03,261 Back at the state trooper patrol office, thanks to the budget cuts... 990 01:06:03,434 --> 01:06:05,732 Trooper Kenyon had to come in on his day off... 991 01:06:05,903 --> 01:06:07,803 to catch up on some paperwork. 992 01:06:07,972 --> 01:06:11,032 For the most part, especially during summer, when people show up... 993 01:06:11,209 --> 01:06:13,302 this is what they get. They close the door. 994 01:06:13,478 --> 01:06:15,912 They can read the sign about the office closure. 995 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,538 It just basically explains that due to our cutbacks... 996 01:06:19,717 --> 01:06:22,686 our office is not open for administrative business. 997 01:06:22,854 --> 01:06:26,346 There's a sign that explains when the office is closed... 998 01:06:26,524 --> 01:06:31,518 they can use the phone booth to get in touch with our dispatch. 999 01:06:32,063 --> 01:06:34,623 Ironically enough, that phone is a piece of junk. 1000 01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:37,199 It doesn't work very well, so half the time... 1001 01:06:37,368 --> 01:06:40,496 they pick up the phone and dispatch gets static. 1002 01:06:40,671 --> 01:06:42,036 They don't hear anything. 1003 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:45,600 For Tuesday, there'll be no troop on patrol. 1004 01:06:45,777 --> 01:06:47,745 Wednesday, there'll be no troop on patrol. 1005 01:06:47,912 --> 01:06:49,971 Thursday, there'll be no troop on patrol. 1006 01:06:50,148 --> 01:06:51,740 You get calls all the time. 1007 01:06:51,916 --> 01:06:53,941 People will call in a suspicious vehicle... 1008 01:06:54,118 --> 01:06:56,279 or somebody looking suspicious. 1009 01:06:56,454 --> 01:06:59,287 And I don't hardly ever respond to that anymore. 1010 01:06:59,457 --> 01:07:01,118 I just don't have the time to do it. 1011 01:07:01,292 --> 01:07:03,760 I asked, how many people do we have in Oregon... 1012 01:07:03,928 --> 01:07:05,395 on duty tonight? 1013 01:07:05,563 --> 01:07:07,758 And we had eight troopers... 1014 01:07:07,932 --> 01:07:10,867 on for the entire state of Oregon, working. 1015 01:07:12,570 --> 01:07:17,234 I think Oregon is a prime example that homeland security... 1016 01:07:17,408 --> 01:07:21,344 is not as secure as what people would like to believe. 1017 01:07:21,512 --> 01:07:25,141 Nobody's sent me a manual that says, here's how you catch a terrorist. 1018 01:07:25,316 --> 01:07:29,685 If I had that manual, I'd read it. But I don't. So... 1019 01:07:29,854 --> 01:07:31,685 Yeah. 1020 01:07:32,223 --> 01:07:35,056 The Bush administration didn't hand out a manual... 1021 01:07:35,226 --> 01:07:37,387 on how to deal with the terrorist threat... 1022 01:07:37,562 --> 01:07:41,293 because the terrorist threat wasn't what this was all about. 1023 01:07:42,033 --> 01:07:44,399 They just wanted us to be fearful enough... 1024 01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:48,562 so that we'd get behind what their real plan was. 1025 01:07:53,244 --> 01:07:54,506 Four minutes. 1026 01:07:54,679 --> 01:07:56,476 - Right from the top. - All right. 1027 01:07:58,950 --> 01:08:01,441 - How much time? - Three minutes. 1028 01:08:04,122 --> 01:08:06,784 - Okay, folks. - Thirty seconds. 1029 01:08:07,625 --> 01:08:10,719 - Stand by. - Fifteen seconds. 1030 01:08:13,097 --> 01:08:18,091 Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five... 1031 01:08:18,269 --> 01:08:22,433 four, three, two, one. 1032 01:08:22,607 --> 01:08:24,006 My fellow citizens... 1033 01:08:57,041 --> 01:09:00,067 At this hour, American and coalition forces... 1034 01:09:00,244 --> 01:09:03,008 are in the early stages of military operations... 1035 01:09:03,181 --> 01:09:04,443 to disarm Iraq... 1036 01:09:04,615 --> 01:09:08,312 to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 1037 01:09:08,486 --> 01:09:11,717 On my orders, coalition forces have begun striking... 1038 01:09:11,889 --> 01:09:14,414 selected targets of military importance... 1039 01:09:14,592 --> 01:09:18,221 to undermine Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war. 1040 01:09:40,618 --> 01:09:43,644 On March 19th, 2003... 1041 01:09:43,821 --> 01:09:47,120 George W. Bush and the United States military... 1042 01:09:47,291 --> 01:09:49,725 invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq. 1043 01:09:50,861 --> 01:09:54,228 A nation that had never attacked the United States. 1044 01:09:55,967 --> 01:10:00,165 A nation that had never threatened to attack the United States. 1045 01:10:01,339 --> 01:10:06,572 A nation that had never murdered a single American citizen. 1046 01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:31,026 We're going to find this, I think this piece of my neighbor. 1047 01:10:31,202 --> 01:10:33,932 Young girl, age 20. 1048 01:10:34,505 --> 01:10:38,942 I think it's the other part of her body. That's all. 1049 01:10:41,112 --> 01:10:41,245 There is a lot of innocent civilians that were killed. 1050 01:10:41,245 --> 01:10:43,975 There is a lot of innocent civilians that were killed. 1051 01:10:44,148 --> 01:10:48,107 And I think that is because the U.S. Army... 1052 01:10:48,619 --> 01:10:51,281 we came in, and we knew it wasn't gonna be easy. 1053 01:10:51,455 --> 01:10:53,946 And pretty much at first shot anything that moved. 1054 01:10:54,125 --> 01:10:55,990 When war happens and fighting starts... 1055 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,788 it's like we're pumped up, motivated, ready to go. 1056 01:10:58,963 --> 01:11:00,225 It's the ultimate rush. 1057 01:11:00,398 --> 01:11:02,832 Because you know you're going into the fight... 1058 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,525 then you got a good song playing in the background. 1059 01:11:05,703 --> 01:11:10,003 And that gets you real fired up. Ready to do the job. 1060 01:11:10,174 --> 01:11:11,903 You can hook your CD player up... 1061 01:11:12,076 --> 01:11:14,476 to the tank's internal communications system. 1062 01:11:14,645 --> 01:11:17,546 When you put your helmet on you can hear it through the helmet. 1063 01:11:17,715 --> 01:11:19,342 This one we listen to the most. 1064 01:11:19,517 --> 01:11:22,350 This is the one, when we travel, we kill the enemy... 1065 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,988 Drowning Pool. Let the bodies hit the floor... 1066 01:11:25,156 --> 01:11:26,714 is fitting for the job. 1067 01:11:32,930 --> 01:11:34,625 We picked the roof is on fire... 1068 01:11:34,799 --> 01:11:37,893 because it symbolized Baghdad being on fire. 1069 01:11:38,069 --> 01:11:41,561 At the time we wanted it to burn to get Saddam and his regime out. 1070 01:11:41,739 --> 01:11:45,835 The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. 1071 01:11:46,344 --> 01:11:50,007 We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn. 1072 01:11:50,181 --> 01:11:53,173 Burn, motherfucker, burn. 1073 01:12:04,028 --> 01:12:08,522 This is a totally different picture here being pushed into the city. 1074 01:12:08,699 --> 01:12:10,724 Urban warfare in a tank. 1075 01:12:11,435 --> 01:12:13,027 Civilians. 1076 01:12:13,471 --> 01:12:14,802 The civilians... 1077 01:12:14,972 --> 01:12:17,736 You don't know who's friendly, who's the enemy. 1078 01:12:17,908 --> 01:12:21,309 This is a lot more real and true than just a video game. 1079 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,937 People thought it was gonna be, look through the sight and shoot. No. 1080 01:12:25,116 --> 01:12:26,708 A lot of this is face to face. 1081 01:12:26,884 --> 01:12:30,376 Especially riding by after some of the bombs went off... 1082 01:12:30,554 --> 01:12:33,614 and seeing all the people on the side of the road bloated up. 1083 01:12:33,791 --> 01:12:38,091 And all the smells around you from the people lying dead, rotted. 1084 01:12:38,262 --> 01:12:40,753 It's a lot more gruesome than you think. 1085 01:12:40,931 --> 01:12:44,264 We called in with some artillery and some napalm and things. 1086 01:12:44,435 --> 01:12:46,403 Some innocent women and children got hit. 1087 01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:48,504 We met them on the road, and they had... 1088 01:12:48,672 --> 01:12:51,072 little girls with noses blown off, and... 1089 01:12:51,242 --> 01:12:52,573 and... 1090 01:12:52,743 --> 01:12:55,678 husbands carrying their dead wives and things like that. 1091 01:12:55,846 --> 01:12:58,747 That was extremely difficult to deal with. You're like... 1092 01:12:58,916 --> 01:13:01,783 Shoot. What the hell do we do now? 1093 01:13:02,386 --> 01:13:06,686 The targeting capabilities and the care that goes into targeting... 1094 01:13:08,859 --> 01:13:13,091 is as impressive as anything anyone could see. 1095 01:13:15,566 --> 01:13:16,999 - Got him. - Good. Second one. 1096 01:13:17,168 --> 01:13:18,897 Get the other one. 1097 01:13:21,605 --> 01:13:24,802 The care that goes into it, the humanity that goes into it. 1098 01:14:24,068 --> 01:14:26,662 Honestly, I think we should just trust our president... 1099 01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:29,499 in every decision he makes, and we should support that. 1100 01:14:29,673 --> 01:14:32,938 You know? And be faithful in what happens. 1101 01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:35,908 - Do you trust this president? - Yes, I do. 1102 01:14:37,014 --> 01:14:39,608 Britney Spears was not alone. 1103 01:14:39,783 --> 01:14:41,512 The majority of the American people... 1104 01:14:41,685 --> 01:14:45,121 trusted the president, and why shouldn't they? 1105 01:14:45,289 --> 01:14:48,019 He'd spent the better part of the last year... 1106 01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:51,753 giving them every reason why we should invade Iraq. 1107 01:14:51,929 --> 01:14:55,092 Saddam Hussein has gone to elaborate lengths... 1108 01:14:55,266 --> 01:14:56,927 spent enormous sums... 1109 01:14:57,101 --> 01:15:01,629 taken great risks to build and keep weapons of mass destruction. 1110 01:15:01,805 --> 01:15:05,866 Saddam Hussein is determined to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1111 01:15:06,043 --> 01:15:08,409 Nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapon. 1112 01:15:08,579 --> 01:15:13,278 Active chemical munitions bunkers. Mobile production facilities. 1113 01:15:13,450 --> 01:15:15,315 We know he's got chemical weapons. 1114 01:15:15,486 --> 01:15:17,477 He's got them. He's got them. He's got them. 1115 01:15:17,655 --> 01:15:19,623 Huh, that's weird. 1116 01:15:19,790 --> 01:15:23,419 Because that's not what Bush's people said when he first took office. 1117 01:15:23,629 --> 01:15:26,587 He hasn't developed capability... 1118 01:15:26,764 --> 01:15:28,891 with respect to weapons of mass destruction. 1119 01:15:29,066 --> 01:15:32,297 He's unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. 1120 01:15:32,371 --> 01:15:37,136 We're able to keep arms from him. Military forces haven't been rebuilt. 1121 01:15:37,308 --> 01:15:41,267 Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists... 1122 01:15:41,445 --> 01:15:43,606 including members of al Qaeda. 1123 01:15:43,781 --> 01:15:46,773 There was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. 1124 01:15:46,951 --> 01:15:49,283 Saddam. Al Qaeda. Saddam. Al Qaeda. 1125 01:15:49,453 --> 01:15:52,854 Saddam. The al Qaeda. Saddam. Saddam. Saddam. Al Qaeda. 1126 01:15:53,023 --> 01:15:55,423 It's only a matter of time before terrorist states... 1127 01:15:55,593 --> 01:15:57,618 armed with weapons of mass destruction... 1128 01:15:57,795 --> 01:16:01,322 develop the capability to deliver those weapons to U.S. cities. 1129 01:16:01,498 --> 01:16:03,625 We're giving you facts and conclusions... 1130 01:16:03,801 --> 01:16:05,632 based on solid intelligence. 1131 01:16:09,473 --> 01:16:10,963 He's a man who hates America. 1132 01:16:11,141 --> 01:16:14,008 This is a man who cannot stand what we stand for. 1133 01:16:14,178 --> 01:16:17,614 There's willingness to terrorize himself. 1134 01:16:17,781 --> 01:16:21,114 He hates the fact, like al Qaeda does, that we love freedom. 1135 01:16:21,285 --> 01:16:24,186 After all, this is a guy that tried to kill my dad at one time. 1136 01:16:24,357 --> 01:16:30,991 They got people to believe there was a threat when in fact there wasn't one. 1137 01:16:31,161 --> 01:16:33,755 You get told things every day that don't happen. 1138 01:16:33,931 --> 01:16:35,558 It doesn't seem to bother people. 1139 01:16:35,733 --> 01:16:39,934 The Democrats were there to put a stop to all these falsehoods. 1140 01:16:40,005 --> 01:16:43,573 I'll vote to give the president authority he needs. 1141 01:16:43,741 --> 01:16:47,871 United States is prepared to lead the coalition of the willing that will do it. 1142 01:16:48,045 --> 01:16:50,445 When I say we will lead a coalition of the willing... 1143 01:16:50,614 --> 01:16:53,242 to disarm him if he chooses not to disarm, I mean it. 1144 01:16:53,417 --> 01:16:57,183 - Who's in that coalition of the willing? - You will find out who's in it. 1145 01:17:02,593 --> 01:17:05,585 The Republic of Palau. 1146 01:17:05,763 --> 01:17:10,029 The Republic of Costa Rica. 1147 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,931 The Republic of Iceland. 1148 01:17:14,104 --> 01:17:18,040 None of these countries has an army, or for that matter, weapons. 1149 01:17:18,208 --> 01:17:22,201 So it looked like we'd be doing most of the invading stuff ourselves. 1150 01:17:23,414 --> 01:17:27,009 - Then there was also... - Romania. 1151 01:17:27,184 --> 01:17:31,883 The Kingdom of Morocco. 1152 01:17:32,056 --> 01:17:35,048 Morocco wasn't officially a member of the coalition... 1153 01:17:35,225 --> 01:17:38,456 but according to one report, they did offer to send 2000 monkeys... 1154 01:17:38,629 --> 01:17:40,722 to help detonate land mines. 1155 01:17:42,299 --> 01:17:43,926 These are men of vision. 1156 01:17:44,101 --> 01:17:45,728 The Netherlands. 1157 01:17:45,903 --> 01:17:47,700 And I'm proud to call them allies. 1158 01:17:49,273 --> 01:17:51,241 Afghanistan. 1159 01:17:51,408 --> 01:17:53,239 Afghanistan? 1160 01:17:53,410 --> 01:17:55,640 Oh, yeah. They had an army. 1161 01:17:55,813 --> 01:17:59,806 Our army. I guess that's one way to build a coalition. 1162 01:17:59,983 --> 01:18:02,383 Just keep invading countries. 1163 01:18:02,553 --> 01:18:06,819 Yes, with our mighty coalition intact, we were ready. 1164 01:18:06,990 --> 01:18:10,551 One could almost say it's the mother of all coalitions. 1165 01:18:13,263 --> 01:18:16,323 Fortunately, we have an independent media in this country... 1166 01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:18,434 who would tell us the truth. 1167 01:18:18,602 --> 01:18:22,629 The rallying around the president, the flag and the troops has begun. 1168 01:18:22,806 --> 01:18:24,330 And we're gonna win! 1169 01:18:24,508 --> 01:18:27,102 You have to be with troops to understand the adrenaline. 1170 01:18:27,277 --> 01:18:29,745 I want you to know, I think Navy SEALs rock. 1171 01:18:29,913 --> 01:18:32,939 The pictures you're seeing are absolutely phenomenal. 1172 01:18:33,117 --> 01:18:37,611 When my country's at war, I want my country to win. 1173 01:18:37,788 --> 01:18:41,315 Iraqi opposition has faded in the face of American power. 1174 01:18:41,492 --> 01:18:45,861 What you're watching here is truly historic television and journalism. 1175 01:18:46,029 --> 01:18:47,519 It was absolutely electrifying. 1176 01:18:47,698 --> 01:18:51,031 They had to strap me in with my camera at the back of the plane. 1177 01:18:51,201 --> 01:18:53,601 An awesome, synchronized killing machine. 1178 01:18:53,771 --> 01:18:55,295 There is an inherent bias... 1179 01:18:55,472 --> 01:18:58,134 in the coverage of the American press in general. 1180 01:18:58,308 --> 01:19:00,708 Am I slanted and biased? You damn well bet I am. 1181 01:19:05,015 --> 01:19:07,575 But one story the media wasn't covering... 1182 01:19:07,751 --> 01:19:09,514 was the personal story... 1183 01:19:09,686 --> 01:19:13,053 of each and every soldier who was killed in the war. 1184 01:19:13,223 --> 01:19:15,691 The government would not allow any cameras... 1185 01:19:15,859 --> 01:19:18,123 to show the coffins coming home. 1186 01:19:18,729 --> 01:19:21,425 That kind of story is a downer... 1187 01:19:21,598 --> 01:19:25,466 especially when you're getting ready for a party on a boat. 1188 01:20:07,978 --> 01:20:09,206 My fellow Americans... 1189 01:20:10,781 --> 01:20:14,217 major combat operations in Iraq have ended. 1190 01:20:14,384 --> 01:20:16,181 In the battle of Iraq... 1191 01:20:16,353 --> 01:20:21,154 the United States and our allies have prevailed. 1192 01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:34,026 Get out of the way! 1193 01:20:41,378 --> 01:20:44,711 Move! Move! Move! Move! 1194 01:21:04,601 --> 01:21:07,570 162, the number of troops killed by hostile fire. 1195 01:21:07,738 --> 01:21:11,435 - 244 U.S. troops... - 384 U.S. troops lost their lives... 1196 01:21:11,608 --> 01:21:14,543 - Total killed, 484. - Died in the line of duty, 500... 1197 01:21:14,711 --> 01:21:16,008 631 American troops... 1198 01:21:16,179 --> 01:21:18,511 More than 825 troops have been killed in Iraq. 1199 01:21:18,682 --> 01:21:21,480 The largest number of American military deaths since Vietnam. 1200 01:21:21,652 --> 01:21:27,716 There are some who feel like that if they attack us... 1201 01:21:27,891 --> 01:21:30,519 that we may decide to leave prematurely. 1202 01:21:31,295 --> 01:21:33,695 They don't understand, if that's the case. 1203 01:21:33,864 --> 01:21:35,661 Let me finish. 1204 01:21:36,533 --> 01:21:40,799 There are some who feel like the conditions are such... 1205 01:21:40,971 --> 01:21:42,768 that they can attack us there. 1206 01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:44,669 My answer is, bring them on. 1207 01:21:58,722 --> 01:22:01,452 The United States was planning on walking through here... 1208 01:22:01,625 --> 01:22:03,957 like it was gonna be easy and all. 1209 01:22:04,127 --> 01:22:07,324 But it's not that easy to conquer a country, is it? 1210 01:22:14,004 --> 01:22:17,997 The renewed battle for control of Iraq raged for a fourth day today... 1211 01:22:18,175 --> 01:22:21,508 with street clashes in nearly every corner of the country. 1212 01:22:21,678 --> 01:22:24,306 Iraq could become another Vietnam. 1213 01:22:24,481 --> 01:22:27,882 Officials say they see evidence that Sunni and Shiite extremists... 1214 01:22:28,051 --> 01:22:29,541 might be joining forces. 1215 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,813 They're not happy they're occupied. 1216 01:22:32,756 --> 01:22:35,350 I wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either. 1217 01:22:44,968 --> 01:22:47,266 Two Japanese aid workers and a journalist... 1218 01:22:47,437 --> 01:22:49,496 kidnapped by men calling themselves... 1219 01:22:49,673 --> 01:22:51,538 the Mujahideen Squadrons. 1220 01:22:51,708 --> 01:22:53,869 They threatened to burn the hostages alive... 1221 01:22:54,044 --> 01:22:58,276 if Japan does not withdraw its troops from Iraq within three days. 1222 01:22:58,882 --> 01:23:00,440 What's happened? 1223 01:23:02,786 --> 01:23:04,083 They attacked our convoy. 1224 01:23:05,055 --> 01:23:06,420 You wanna give us your name? 1225 01:23:06,957 --> 01:23:09,551 Hamill, Thomas. 1226 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:10,694 The Pentagon might keep up to 24,000 troops in combat... 1227 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:13,822 The Pentagon might keep up to 24,000 troops in combat... 1228 01:23:13,997 --> 01:23:15,259 beyond their tour. 1229 01:23:15,432 --> 01:23:17,764 I know our numbers in the military have gone down. 1230 01:23:17,934 --> 01:23:19,697 They talk about retention. 1231 01:23:19,904 --> 01:23:23,465 I never expected to be deployed this long. 1232 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,937 I don't think anybody did. 1233 01:23:25,308 --> 01:23:28,141 I don't have any clue as to why we're still in Iraq. 1234 01:23:28,311 --> 01:23:31,712 If Donald Rumsfeld was here, I'd ask him for his resignation. 1235 01:23:32,983 --> 01:23:34,951 With the war not going as planned... 1236 01:23:35,485 --> 01:23:38,318 and the military in need of many more troops... 1237 01:23:39,122 --> 01:23:41,590 where would they find the new recruits? 1238 01:23:41,758 --> 01:23:43,749 Military experts say three times... 1239 01:23:43,927 --> 01:23:46,157 the 120,000 U.S. troops now deployed... 1240 01:23:46,329 --> 01:23:50,231 would be needed to pacify and rebuild the country. 1241 01:23:51,401 --> 01:23:54,234 They would find them all across America... 1242 01:23:54,404 --> 01:23:58,101 in the places that had been destroyed by the economy. 1243 01:23:58,542 --> 01:24:01,170 Places where one of the only jobs available... 1244 01:24:01,344 --> 01:24:03,278 was to join the Army. 1245 01:24:03,447 --> 01:24:06,541 Places like my hometown of Flint, Michigan. 1246 01:24:06,716 --> 01:24:08,343 I was watching TV one day... 1247 01:24:08,518 --> 01:24:12,454 and they showed some of the areas that had been hit by bombs. 1248 01:24:12,622 --> 01:24:14,715 And while watching, I got to thinking... 1249 01:24:14,891 --> 01:24:17,121 there's parts of Flint that look like that. 1250 01:24:17,294 --> 01:24:18,784 And we ain't been in a war. 1251 01:24:19,362 --> 01:24:21,227 Look at the neighborhood I live in. 1252 01:24:21,398 --> 01:24:23,798 Most of them are abandoned. You know, I mean... 1253 01:24:23,967 --> 01:24:26,595 That's not right. You wanna talk about terrorism? 1254 01:24:26,670 --> 01:24:30,103 Come right here. President Bush, right here. Come right here. 1255 01:24:30,273 --> 01:24:32,673 He knows about this corner. I e-mailed him. 1256 01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:35,944 At the end of January of '04... 1257 01:24:36,113 --> 01:24:38,877 the unemployment rate in Flint was 17 percent. 1258 01:24:39,049 --> 01:24:41,643 But you have to take into consideration as well... 1259 01:24:41,818 --> 01:24:44,787 that when your unemployment runs out you're no longer counted. 1260 01:24:44,955 --> 01:24:48,118 I would say that we're close to at least 50 percent... 1261 01:24:48,291 --> 01:24:51,089 not working or underemployed. 1262 01:24:51,261 --> 01:24:54,128 Because being underemployed is just as dangerous. 1263 01:24:54,731 --> 01:24:57,097 My family has gone through the welfare system... 1264 01:24:57,267 --> 01:24:58,529 when it was Job Central. 1265 01:24:58,702 --> 01:25:01,830 In the mid '80s I came through the job training partnership program. 1266 01:25:04,441 --> 01:25:06,306 I went to a secretary school. 1267 01:25:06,476 --> 01:25:10,071 Years later, I'm executive assistant to the president of the agency. 1268 01:25:10,247 --> 01:25:11,839 Interesting. 1269 01:25:12,015 --> 01:25:13,880 My mother used to tell me all the time... 1270 01:25:14,050 --> 01:25:16,177 Why do you always go for the underdog? 1271 01:25:16,353 --> 01:25:18,583 It was because the underdog is who needed me. 1272 01:25:18,755 --> 01:25:22,282 People that don't have anything, that's who I have to fight for. 1273 01:25:22,459 --> 01:25:24,654 And that's who I have fought for my entire life. 1274 01:25:24,828 --> 01:25:27,729 I started taking my children and telling my children. 1275 01:25:27,898 --> 01:25:29,422 The military is a good option. 1276 01:25:29,599 --> 01:25:32,534 I can't afford to have you go to college. I can't pay your way. 1277 01:25:32,702 --> 01:25:34,294 Financial aid will not help you. 1278 01:25:34,471 --> 01:25:36,905 So I, as a mother, started teaching my children... 1279 01:25:37,073 --> 01:25:39,268 about the options that the military could do. 1280 01:25:39,442 --> 01:25:41,205 They would take them around the world. 1281 01:25:41,378 --> 01:25:44,575 They'd see all the things that I, as a mother, couldn't let them see. 1282 01:25:44,748 --> 01:25:48,707 It'd pay for their education that I, as their mother and father, couldn't pay. 1283 01:25:48,885 --> 01:25:51,376 The military is a good option for kids in Flint. 1284 01:25:51,555 --> 01:25:54,581 The military is an excellent option for the people of Flint. 1285 01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:59,754 How many of you have a friend or a family member in the service? 1286 01:26:01,331 --> 01:26:03,891 Anybody currently serving overseas? 1287 01:26:04,067 --> 01:26:05,864 - A brother of mine. - My cousin. 1288 01:26:06,036 --> 01:26:07,298 Yeah, cousin. 1289 01:26:07,470 --> 01:26:09,335 - Where's your brother? - Iraq. 1290 01:26:09,506 --> 01:26:11,337 Germany. 1291 01:26:11,508 --> 01:26:15,604 My cousin got shipped off to Iraq, like, three days ago. 1292 01:26:15,779 --> 01:26:17,212 Dang. 1293 01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:19,610 There's, like, an Army or Navy recruiter... 1294 01:26:19,783 --> 01:26:23,150 or Marines recruiter up there almost every week... 1295 01:26:23,853 --> 01:26:27,914 in the lunchroom recruiting students at the lunchroom. 1296 01:26:28,491 --> 01:26:31,824 There are people with a calling. 1297 01:26:35,065 --> 01:26:39,399 Most serve one weekend a month and two weeks a year. 1298 01:26:41,504 --> 01:26:43,165 Earning money for college. 1299 01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:49,342 Protecting their community. 1300 01:26:50,747 --> 01:26:53,079 In the Army National Guard... 1301 01:26:53,583 --> 01:26:54,845 you can. 1302 01:26:57,854 --> 01:26:59,185 I'm going into the Air Force. 1303 01:26:59,356 --> 01:27:02,382 I'm gonna take a year off after high school. 1304 01:27:02,559 --> 01:27:05,995 And then make a career. I wanna be an aircraft maintenance technician. 1305 01:27:06,162 --> 01:27:09,222 I ran into a recruiter, and there was something I noticed about it. 1306 01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:12,095 And this is kind of on another, I noticed it was odd. 1307 01:27:12,269 --> 01:27:14,965 More like he was hiring me than recruiting me for the Army. 1308 01:27:15,138 --> 01:27:18,266 It was the way he approached me. I was in Borders Books and Music. 1309 01:27:18,441 --> 01:27:20,705 He came up like he was handing us a business card. 1310 01:27:20,877 --> 01:27:23,368 He had business cards made for the Army. 1311 01:27:28,752 --> 01:27:31,312 Meet Marine Staff Sergeant Dale Kortman... 1312 01:27:31,488 --> 01:27:33,513 and Sergeant Raymond Plouhar. 1313 01:27:34,624 --> 01:27:38,685 They are two of the many recruiters assigned to Flint, Michigan. 1314 01:27:39,029 --> 01:27:41,088 They're very busy these days. 1315 01:27:41,264 --> 01:27:43,255 Look, he's running away already. 1316 01:27:43,433 --> 01:27:46,095 - He's seen us coming. - Yeah. 1317 01:27:46,936 --> 01:27:48,528 What have we got here? 1318 01:27:48,705 --> 01:27:50,969 - Need a little gangster. - Yeah. 1319 01:27:51,474 --> 01:27:54,204 We're heading over to the Courtland Mall right now. 1320 01:27:55,312 --> 01:27:57,212 They decided not to go to the wealthier... 1321 01:27:57,380 --> 01:27:59,712 Genesee Valley Mall in the suburbs. 1322 01:27:59,883 --> 01:28:02,750 They have a hard time recruiting young people there. 1323 01:28:02,919 --> 01:28:06,252 Instead, they went to the other mall. 1324 01:28:06,423 --> 01:28:09,085 - Let's go in through Mervyn's. - In through Mervyn's. 1325 01:28:09,259 --> 01:28:13,093 And then we'll walk straight down and straight back and then go down... 1326 01:28:13,463 --> 01:28:15,488 Gents, you know we're looking at you, right? 1327 01:28:15,665 --> 01:28:17,326 You guys ever think about joining up? 1328 01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,094 I thought about going to college and playing basketball. 1329 01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:22,670 - You any good? - Yeah. Especially basketball. 1330 01:28:22,839 --> 01:28:24,966 Good. You can play ball for the Marine Corps. 1331 01:28:25,141 --> 01:28:27,974 Travel around the world for the Corps basketball team. 1332 01:28:28,144 --> 01:28:30,578 - David Robinson was in the military. - Oh, was he? 1333 01:28:30,747 --> 01:28:32,510 Yeah, you can definitely hook it up. 1334 01:28:32,682 --> 01:28:36,174 Right now somebody out there wants to be a Marine but has no idea how to. 1335 01:28:36,353 --> 01:28:38,548 - Where you work at? - I work at KFC. 1336 01:28:38,722 --> 01:28:41,850 - Sweet. Hook us up with deals. - Yes. 1337 01:28:42,025 --> 01:28:43,788 They're waiting to get recruited. 1338 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,121 I was gonna try a career in music or something. 1339 01:28:46,296 --> 01:28:49,561 Career in music? Maybe we can get you a career in music. 1340 01:28:49,733 --> 01:28:52,600 Let the Marines go for it. I'm sure you know who Shaggy is. 1341 01:28:53,103 --> 01:28:56,937 - You know anything about him? - Yeah, he's the Jamaican singer. 1342 01:28:57,107 --> 01:28:59,132 How about a former Marine? 1343 01:28:59,309 --> 01:29:00,867 Did you know it? 1344 01:29:01,044 --> 01:29:03,740 You need to know discipline if you're gonna get into music. 1345 01:29:03,913 --> 01:29:05,676 Especially discipline with the money. 1346 01:29:05,849 --> 01:29:08,249 If you make a million, you need to manage that money. 1347 01:29:08,418 --> 01:29:10,010 Come to the office, we can talk... 1348 01:29:10,186 --> 01:29:12,120 show you everything about the Marines. 1349 01:29:12,288 --> 01:29:14,586 - Sounds like a plan? - What you got going this afternoon? 1350 01:29:14,758 --> 01:29:17,488 How about tomorrow? 10:00 Monday morning? 1351 01:29:17,660 --> 01:29:20,561 - That sounds pretty good. - You want me to pick you up? 1352 01:29:20,730 --> 01:29:23,290 It's better to get them when they're in ones and twos... 1353 01:29:23,466 --> 01:29:25,161 and work on them that way. 1354 01:29:25,335 --> 01:29:26,563 Ladies, ready to join up? 1355 01:29:26,736 --> 01:29:28,761 Green hat right behind us. 1356 01:29:28,938 --> 01:29:32,601 - Looks young. He's young. - Yeah. 1357 01:29:32,776 --> 01:29:35,006 We got two over here... 1358 01:29:35,178 --> 01:29:37,043 right over by the red van. 1359 01:29:37,213 --> 01:29:39,340 You go that way, I go this way, we corner them. 1360 01:29:39,516 --> 01:29:41,507 - You're in the ninth grade? - Yes, sir. 1361 01:29:41,684 --> 01:29:44,482 Man, you look older than ninth grade. 1362 01:29:44,654 --> 01:29:46,349 All right, here's my card. 1363 01:29:46,523 --> 01:29:48,491 You ever thought about being a Marine, man? 1364 01:29:48,658 --> 01:29:50,990 I've thought about it. I've got a wife and kid now. 1365 01:29:51,161 --> 01:29:52,822 Even more reason to join up. 1366 01:29:52,996 --> 01:29:54,623 What I want to do, man... 1367 01:29:54,798 --> 01:29:57,824 is get information from you so I can scratch you off my list... 1368 01:29:58,001 --> 01:30:01,630 saying I've talked to you, and you're not interested. Is that cool? 1369 01:30:01,805 --> 01:30:04,205 What's your name? Phone number? What's your address? 1370 01:30:04,374 --> 01:30:05,773 Add another one to the list. 1371 01:30:05,942 --> 01:30:10,538 However, one would love to have that chance to experience college life. 1372 01:30:10,713 --> 01:30:13,841 You know, stuff young people can do without having the risk... 1373 01:30:14,017 --> 01:30:17,282 of dying in the process, I guess I can say candidly. 1374 01:30:19,556 --> 01:30:23,890 The holidays add a bit more friction, as opposed to just another night... 1375 01:30:24,060 --> 01:30:28,224 in the fact we wanna give our guys a little time off, time to relax. 1376 01:30:28,398 --> 01:30:32,357 However, we are in a combat zone, and my soldiers do recognize that fact. 1377 01:30:32,535 --> 01:30:35,629 Everybody's a little bit nervous about it, I guess. 1378 01:30:35,805 --> 01:30:38,774 We're professionals. We're gonna take care of you. 1379 01:30:39,843 --> 01:30:41,777 I promise. 1380 01:30:42,912 --> 01:30:46,814 Every house here has the right to have weapons. 1381 01:30:46,983 --> 01:30:49,213 Maximum, one AK-47. 1382 01:30:49,385 --> 01:30:52,252 We always expect the targets to be armed. 1383 01:30:58,761 --> 01:31:00,820 Rock 'n' roll. 1384 01:31:02,665 --> 01:31:05,600 These are fucking bolt cutters. 1385 01:31:05,768 --> 01:31:08,066 This goddamn thing to pry doors open. 1386 01:31:08,238 --> 01:31:10,172 Pop this in there... 1387 01:31:46,843 --> 01:31:48,777 Hey, Adele, just hold up. 1388 01:31:55,418 --> 01:31:57,010 No, no, no, no. 1389 01:31:57,186 --> 01:31:58,847 Where's she going? 1390 01:31:59,622 --> 01:32:01,351 - I'll go with her. - Where's she going? 1391 01:32:01,524 --> 01:32:02,786 She's gonna call him. 1392 01:32:02,959 --> 01:32:06,827 She's gonna call him? No, no, no. Where is he at right now? 1393 01:32:06,996 --> 01:32:08,827 Not on the phone. Not on the phone. 1394 01:32:08,998 --> 01:32:12,058 Is he in the house? Is he in the house? 1395 01:32:12,235 --> 01:32:14,567 - Passerelli! Passerelli! - Is he in the house? 1396 01:32:14,737 --> 01:32:16,967 He is? He is in the house? Where? 1397 01:32:17,140 --> 01:32:19,301 - This is him? - Get up there, second floor! 1398 01:32:19,475 --> 01:32:22,467 Watch out. Go, go, go! Watch out, Adele, watch out. 1399 01:32:22,645 --> 01:32:24,408 I have one coming up. 1400 01:32:26,916 --> 01:32:29,510 That's Suheib Al Douri? 1401 01:32:30,553 --> 01:32:32,282 - What's your name? - Suheib. 1402 01:32:32,455 --> 01:32:34,855 - This is Suheib. Yeah. - This is Suheib. 1403 01:32:35,024 --> 01:32:36,889 - This is Suheib? - Yeah. 1404 01:32:37,727 --> 01:32:39,718 Stand him up. Get up. 1405 01:32:43,700 --> 01:32:48,763 Tell them to calm down, please. We will not be long. 1406 01:32:52,542 --> 01:32:54,942 We appreciate your cooperation. This is the target. 1407 01:32:55,111 --> 01:32:57,636 Suheib Al Douri. Bring him out. 1408 01:32:57,814 --> 01:33:00,180 We have to, as you go back to the old saying... 1409 01:33:00,350 --> 01:33:03,012 win the hearts and minds of the people. That's our job. 1410 01:33:03,186 --> 01:33:06,349 We have to... We have to bring the... 1411 01:33:06,522 --> 01:33:09,821 The ideal of democracy and freedom to the country... 1412 01:33:09,993 --> 01:33:13,724 and show them that the American people are not here to rule Iraq. 1413 01:33:32,415 --> 01:33:36,181 I start doing evidence turn-in. That process takes about three hours. 1414 01:33:36,352 --> 01:33:38,149 So that's gonna be it for the night. 1415 01:33:38,321 --> 01:33:41,415 That concludes Christmas Eve. 1416 01:33:44,827 --> 01:33:46,658 Merry Christmas, PRT. Merry Christmas. 1417 01:33:46,829 --> 01:33:48,956 Santa came to Iraq just for you guys. 1418 01:33:49,132 --> 01:33:51,066 Trying to keep skies clear for you, Santa. 1419 01:33:53,603 --> 01:33:55,628 Do you consider yourself a proud American? 1420 01:33:55,805 --> 01:33:57,067 Absolutely. 1421 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,607 I'm an extremely proud American. I'm probably more proud... 1422 01:34:00,777 --> 01:34:02,039 than the average Joe. 1423 01:34:02,211 --> 01:34:05,738 When I put my flag out, I can't allow it to touch the ground. 1424 01:34:05,915 --> 01:34:09,373 Because I know the lives that were lost and the blood that was shed... 1425 01:34:09,552 --> 01:34:11,520 so that I could be here and have a flag. 1426 01:34:11,688 --> 01:34:15,089 - How often do you put the flag out? - Every single day. Every day. 1427 01:34:15,258 --> 01:34:18,250 I started when my daughter was in Desert Storm. 1428 01:34:18,428 --> 01:34:19,952 I had the same flag... 1429 01:34:20,129 --> 01:34:23,565 flying on my front porch and the same yellow ribbons. 1430 01:34:23,733 --> 01:34:26,759 Praying and hoping every day that my child would come home safe. 1431 01:34:26,936 --> 01:34:28,961 And everybody's child would come home safe. 1432 01:34:29,138 --> 01:34:30,799 - And she did. - And she did. 1433 01:34:30,973 --> 01:34:33,203 Have other family members been in the military? 1434 01:34:33,376 --> 01:34:34,968 Absolutely. Uncles, aunts... 1435 01:34:35,012 --> 01:34:38,239 cousins, brothers, father. 1436 01:34:38,414 --> 01:34:40,382 - Very strong military family. - Very strong. 1437 01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:43,781 My family was... My family is what I consider... 1438 01:34:43,953 --> 01:34:45,750 part of the backbone of America. 1439 01:34:45,922 --> 01:34:48,413 It's families like mine. And it's not just my family. 1440 01:34:48,591 --> 01:34:51,151 There's hundreds of families, millions of families... 1441 01:34:51,327 --> 01:34:53,727 that this country was founded on their backs. 1442 01:34:53,896 --> 01:34:57,354 I have been known to be a conservative Democrat. Yeah. 1443 01:34:57,533 --> 01:34:59,592 - That's what you consider yourself? - Yeah. 1444 01:34:59,769 --> 01:35:03,102 - Yeah, it's a great country. - It's a great country. It's a great country. 1445 01:35:03,272 --> 01:35:08,073 The cross that I choose to wear is a multicultural, multicolor cross. 1446 01:35:08,244 --> 01:35:11,441 That's because I believe that all God's people come in many colors. 1447 01:35:11,614 --> 01:35:14,014 And my family itself is multicultural. 1448 01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:17,917 You have a daughter who went into the military. 1449 01:35:18,087 --> 01:35:20,317 Then your first-born son, in the military. 1450 01:35:20,490 --> 01:35:25,951 That's quite a gift to the country from your family. 1451 01:35:26,129 --> 01:35:28,597 So having a son in the Army, pretty proud thing. 1452 01:35:28,765 --> 01:35:31,996 Oh, you know what? He made it. 1453 01:35:32,502 --> 01:35:37,166 What was your reaction to protestors during the Gulf War or Vietnam? 1454 01:35:37,340 --> 01:35:39,103 I always hated the protestors. 1455 01:35:39,275 --> 01:35:43,371 I always hated the protestors. It was just a slap in my face. 1456 01:35:43,546 --> 01:35:47,539 It was just like they were dishonoring my son. 1457 01:35:47,717 --> 01:35:51,448 And I burned in my soul to tell them, you don't understand. 1458 01:35:51,621 --> 01:35:53,782 They're not there because they wanna be there. 1459 01:35:53,956 --> 01:35:57,517 But then I came to understand they weren't protesting the men... 1460 01:35:57,693 --> 01:36:01,629 and women there, they were protesting the concept of the war. 1461 01:36:01,798 --> 01:36:04,767 I know I'm a soldier, and I'm here to do a job. 1462 01:36:05,635 --> 01:36:08,263 I've been a soldier for a while. 1463 01:36:09,639 --> 01:36:12,608 Once you have to go and do your job... 1464 01:36:12,775 --> 01:36:15,141 and you see the things that you see... 1465 01:36:17,113 --> 01:36:19,911 I was saying, there's some disillusionment in that. 1466 01:36:20,082 --> 01:36:24,519 Battalion commander fully expects us to be... 1467 01:36:24,687 --> 01:36:27,520 attacked in some type of way... 1468 01:36:27,690 --> 01:36:29,783 before we get to FARP Shell. 1469 01:36:30,693 --> 01:36:33,628 I know that so far it's been pretty calm. 1470 01:36:33,796 --> 01:36:35,161 Not much has happened. 1471 01:36:35,331 --> 01:36:40,166 But be aware that it can, and it probably will. 1472 01:36:44,674 --> 01:36:47,609 They're beginning to organize themselves, just in neighborhoods. 1473 01:36:47,777 --> 01:36:51,144 The kids get together a lot. Well, I can't say kids... 1474 01:36:51,314 --> 01:36:52,838 but guys about 17, 18... 1475 01:36:53,015 --> 01:36:54,573 starting to come together. 1476 01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:57,184 They hate us. Why, I'm not really sure. 1477 01:36:59,922 --> 01:37:03,949 Immoral behavior breeds immoral behavior. 1478 01:37:04,694 --> 01:37:07,060 When a president commits the immoral act... 1479 01:37:07,230 --> 01:37:11,564 of sending otherwise good kids to war based on a lie... 1480 01:37:11,734 --> 01:37:13,565 this is what you get. 1481 01:37:13,736 --> 01:37:16,227 Hey, is he ticklish? 1482 01:37:16,405 --> 01:37:18,236 Don't tell me you don't know. 1483 01:37:38,494 --> 01:37:41,588 To have these people shoot at us, kill us, blow us up... 1484 01:37:41,764 --> 01:37:43,789 whatever, means they can. 1485 01:37:43,966 --> 01:37:45,593 And I don't understand it. 1486 01:37:45,768 --> 01:37:48,362 We're trying to help these people, and it seems... 1487 01:37:48,537 --> 01:37:50,698 they don't want our help. Get out of here! 1488 01:37:50,873 --> 01:37:53,637 The minute something goes wrong, why weren't you here? 1489 01:37:53,809 --> 01:37:55,868 Why didn't you do this? You know, it's... 1490 01:37:56,045 --> 01:37:58,070 I hate this country. 1491 01:37:58,247 --> 01:38:02,308 You know, you... I feel that a part of your soul... 1492 01:38:03,185 --> 01:38:07,645 is destroyed in taking another life. 1493 01:38:09,058 --> 01:38:11,856 Yeah, that statement is very true. 1494 01:38:12,028 --> 01:38:15,520 You cannot kill someone without killing a part of yourself. 1495 01:38:15,965 --> 01:38:17,227 If you get called up... 1496 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,231 - will you go back to Iraq? - No. 1497 01:38:21,370 --> 01:38:24,464 What repercussions do you face if you don't? 1498 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,164 Possible jail time. 1499 01:38:26,342 --> 01:38:27,809 That's one possible thing. 1500 01:38:27,977 --> 01:38:30,639 - Are you willing to risk that? - Yes. 1501 01:38:30,813 --> 01:38:32,474 Yes, I... 1502 01:38:32,648 --> 01:38:36,414 I will not let my person... 1503 01:38:37,687 --> 01:38:40,884 I will not let anyone... 1504 01:38:41,057 --> 01:38:44,493 send me back over there to kill other poor people. 1505 01:38:44,660 --> 01:38:50,292 Especially when they pose no threat to me and my country. 1506 01:38:54,437 --> 01:38:56,098 I won't do it. 1507 01:38:57,106 --> 01:38:59,802 This is an impressive crowd. The haves... 1508 01:38:59,976 --> 01:39:02,308 and the have-mores. 1509 01:39:04,180 --> 01:39:06,580 Some people call you the elite. 1510 01:39:06,749 --> 01:39:09,013 I call you my base. 1511 01:39:16,892 --> 01:39:19,383 While Bush was busy taking care of his base... 1512 01:39:19,562 --> 01:39:21,757 and professing his love for our troops... 1513 01:39:21,931 --> 01:39:26,061 he proposed cutting combat soldiers' pay by 33 percent... 1514 01:39:26,235 --> 01:39:28,999 and assistance to their families by 60 percent. 1515 01:39:29,572 --> 01:39:31,005 He opposed giving veterans... 1516 01:39:31,173 --> 01:39:34,165 a billion dollars more in health-care benefits... 1517 01:39:34,343 --> 01:39:37,403 and he supported closing veteran hospitals. 1518 01:39:37,580 --> 01:39:41,038 He tried to double the prescription drug costs for veterans... 1519 01:39:41,217 --> 01:39:44,914 and opposed full benefits for part-time reservists. 1520 01:39:45,855 --> 01:39:48,255 When Staff Sergeant Brett Petriken from Flint... 1521 01:39:48,424 --> 01:39:51,018 was killed in Iraq on May 26th... 1522 01:39:51,193 --> 01:39:53,593 the Army sent his last paycheck to his family... 1523 01:39:53,763 --> 01:39:57,358 but they docked him for the last five days of the month he didn't work... 1524 01:39:57,533 --> 01:39:58,864 because he was dead. 1525 01:40:01,203 --> 01:40:03,671 They say they're not gonna leave any veteran behind... 1526 01:40:03,839 --> 01:40:06,239 but they're leaving all kinds of veterans behind. 1527 01:40:06,544 --> 01:40:11,406 To say we're forgotten, I know we're not. But missed? Yes. 1528 01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:14,378 Yes. There's a lot of soldiers that have been missed... 1529 01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:16,415 that have been skipped over. 1530 01:40:16,585 --> 01:40:18,644 Didn't get the proper coverage they deserved. 1531 01:40:18,821 --> 01:40:23,081 There's a death toll, but not showing the injured or amputated. 1532 01:40:25,094 --> 01:40:27,562 - I still feel like I have hands. - Yeah. 1533 01:40:27,730 --> 01:40:31,962 And the pain is like my hands are being crushed in a vise. 1534 01:40:32,134 --> 01:40:33,931 But they do a lot to help it... 1535 01:40:34,103 --> 01:40:36,071 and they take a lot of the edge off it. 1536 01:40:36,238 --> 01:40:39,105 It makes it a lot more tolerable. 1537 01:40:39,708 --> 01:40:42,404 I was injured in late April on patrol in Baghdad. 1538 01:40:45,048 --> 01:40:48,847 A couple of guys come out and ambushed us. 1539 01:40:49,018 --> 01:40:51,452 I got nerve damage and stuff like that. 1540 01:40:51,620 --> 01:40:55,920 I've got a lot of pain. I'm constantly in pain. 1541 01:40:56,659 --> 01:40:58,684 I take a lot of morphine... 1542 01:40:58,861 --> 01:41:02,228 to help with that and stuff. 1543 01:41:03,099 --> 01:41:04,430 I'm doing... 1544 01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,068 Doing, you know, just readjusting. 1545 01:41:07,236 --> 01:41:10,728 Getting life back on track. 1546 01:41:10,906 --> 01:41:13,568 You know what I'm saying? 1547 01:41:13,742 --> 01:41:16,802 I'm not gonna do what it is that I did before. 1548 01:41:17,813 --> 01:41:21,010 I was a Republican for quite a few years. 1549 01:41:21,183 --> 01:41:22,775 And... 1550 01:41:24,420 --> 01:41:26,581 for some reason, they... 1551 01:41:29,325 --> 01:41:31,850 they conduct business in a very dishonest way. 1552 01:41:32,027 --> 01:41:34,860 I'm gonna be incredibly active in the Democratic Party... 1553 01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:38,056 down where I live once I get out. 1554 01:41:38,501 --> 01:41:40,560 I'm gonna definitely do my best... 1555 01:41:40,736 --> 01:41:43,864 to ensure that the Democrats win control. 1556 01:41:44,039 --> 01:41:47,008 Iraq, Baghdad, I didn't know anything of those things. 1557 01:41:49,345 --> 01:41:53,972 And we were in the hallway in the upstairs of our house... 1558 01:41:54,150 --> 01:41:56,880 and he was crying and said that he was really scared. 1559 01:41:57,052 --> 01:41:59,418 And he didn't want to have to go to Iraq. 1560 01:41:59,588 --> 01:42:03,786 So we had a conversation about, sometimes some fear is healthy... 1561 01:42:03,959 --> 01:42:05,984 because it keeps our senses about us. 1562 01:42:06,162 --> 01:42:08,494 That's when he told me he hadn't told anybody else. 1563 01:42:08,664 --> 01:42:10,859 But he knew he was going to Baghdad. 1564 01:42:13,169 --> 01:42:17,265 We were, as everybody, we were glued to the TV. 1565 01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,408 Just glued, completely glued to the television... 1566 01:42:20,576 --> 01:42:22,373 in hopes of seeing a glimpse of him. 1567 01:42:22,545 --> 01:42:24,809 Can't you please go to where the helicopters are? 1568 01:42:24,980 --> 01:42:27,005 Can't you please let us see him? 1569 01:42:27,183 --> 01:42:29,879 Then that night, it was about 10 something... 1570 01:42:30,052 --> 01:42:32,577 I went upstairs to the bedroom. 1571 01:42:32,755 --> 01:42:35,349 I was in bed, flipping the channels with the remote. 1572 01:42:35,524 --> 01:42:38,960 All I heard was, Black Hawk down, South Central Iraq. 1573 01:42:39,128 --> 01:42:42,120 What I can tell you at this hour is that last night... 1574 01:42:42,298 --> 01:42:45,461 the Army did, indeed, lose a Black Hawk helicopter. 1575 01:42:45,634 --> 01:42:48,194 We are being told by officers on the ground... 1576 01:42:48,370 --> 01:42:51,100 that there were six occupants inside the Black Hawk. 1577 01:42:51,273 --> 01:42:53,400 The next morning I got up, and I said... 1578 01:42:53,576 --> 01:42:55,908 You push those sad thoughts out of your mind. 1579 01:42:56,078 --> 01:42:57,875 Okay, Jesus, I need you to come in. 1580 01:42:58,047 --> 01:43:00,675 I need you, Jesus. You gotta help me through this. 1581 01:43:00,849 --> 01:43:04,341 The Army called me, and I remember getting on the phone and him saying... 1582 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,455 Asking me was I Lila Lipscomb, and I said, yes. 1583 01:43:07,623 --> 01:43:10,524 And he said, Mother of Sergeant Michael Pedersen? 1584 01:43:12,161 --> 01:43:15,130 And I remember dropping the telephone. 1585 01:43:18,167 --> 01:43:20,897 And all I can honestly say that I remember... 1586 01:43:21,070 --> 01:43:23,732 is, Ma'am, the United States Army... 1587 01:43:23,906 --> 01:43:28,002 the secretary of defense regretfully informs you... 1588 01:43:30,379 --> 01:43:32,279 That's all I know. 1589 01:43:33,515 --> 01:43:37,315 The grief grabbed me so hard... 1590 01:43:37,486 --> 01:43:39,954 that I literally fell on the floor. 1591 01:43:40,122 --> 01:43:43,489 And I was alone. I didn't have anybody to pick me up. 1592 01:43:43,659 --> 01:43:47,425 So I literally crawled over to my desk... 1593 01:43:47,596 --> 01:43:49,063 and was hanging on. 1594 01:43:49,231 --> 01:43:51,529 And I remember screaming... 1595 01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:53,668 Why does it have to be Michael? 1596 01:43:53,836 --> 01:43:59,274 Why did you have to take my son? Why is it my son you had to take? 1597 01:43:59,441 --> 01:44:01,341 He didn't do anything. 1598 01:44:01,510 --> 01:44:04,240 He wasn't a bad guy. He was a good guy. 1599 01:44:04,413 --> 01:44:06,472 Why did you have to take my son? 1600 01:44:07,449 --> 01:44:10,418 I... I... I... I'm... 1601 01:44:10,586 --> 01:44:13,646 I can't imagine what it must be like to lose a son or a daughter... 1602 01:44:13,822 --> 01:44:16,382 or a husband and... or a wife, for that matter. 1603 01:44:16,558 --> 01:44:19,049 And I... it pains me. 1604 01:44:20,562 --> 01:44:22,496 Do you have his last letter? 1605 01:44:22,665 --> 01:44:24,565 It was mailed March 16th... 1606 01:44:25,234 --> 01:44:29,170 but I didn't get it until probably a week before he was killed. 1607 01:44:29,772 --> 01:44:31,535 Hello. Hey, Mama. 1608 01:44:31,707 --> 01:44:34,938 Well, sorry I haven't been able to call. 1609 01:44:35,110 --> 01:44:37,374 They took the phone seven days ago. 1610 01:44:37,546 --> 01:44:39,537 I got the letter and box. 1611 01:44:39,715 --> 01:44:43,617 That is so cool. Your first grandson came... 1612 01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,480 the same day your oldest son did. 1613 01:44:47,656 --> 01:44:50,056 How is everyone? I'm doing fine. 1614 01:44:50,225 --> 01:44:54,355 We are just out here in the sand and windstorms waiting. 1615 01:44:54,530 --> 01:44:57,294 What in the world is wrong with George? 1616 01:44:57,466 --> 01:45:00,367 Trying to be like his dad, Bush. 1617 01:45:00,536 --> 01:45:03,300 He got us out here for nothing whatsoever. 1618 01:45:03,472 --> 01:45:06,737 I am so furious right now, Mama. 1619 01:45:07,476 --> 01:45:12,607 I really hope they do not re-elect that fool, honestly. 1620 01:45:12,781 --> 01:45:15,579 I am in good spirits, and I am doing okay. 1621 01:45:15,751 --> 01:45:17,514 I really miss you guys. 1622 01:45:17,686 --> 01:45:19,654 Thanks for the Bible... 1623 01:45:21,323 --> 01:45:23,951 and books and candy. 1624 01:45:24,126 --> 01:45:28,256 I really look forward to letters from you guys. 1625 01:45:28,430 --> 01:45:32,662 Well, tell all the family hello and that I am doing fine. 1626 01:45:32,835 --> 01:45:36,271 We don't expect anything to happen any time soon. 1627 01:45:36,438 --> 01:45:40,636 I cannot wait to get home and get back to my life. 1628 01:45:40,809 --> 01:45:42,936 Tell Sputnik congrats... 1629 01:45:43,112 --> 01:45:46,775 and I'll see my first nephew soon... 1630 01:45:47,549 --> 01:45:49,813 as soon as I get back to the States. 1631 01:45:50,419 --> 01:45:52,512 Hope you guys are doing okay... 1632 01:45:52,688 --> 01:45:54,679 and keep sending the mail. 1633 01:45:54,857 --> 01:45:58,190 It makes getting through the days easier. 1634 01:46:00,796 --> 01:46:03,731 Well, I am on my way to bed... 1635 01:46:03,899 --> 01:46:07,391 so I will write you guys soon. 1636 01:46:07,569 --> 01:46:09,696 I love and miss... 1637 01:46:09,872 --> 01:46:11,999 all of you guys. 1638 01:46:24,620 --> 01:46:26,952 I want him to be alive... 1639 01:46:27,122 --> 01:46:29,920 and I can't make him alive. 1640 01:46:30,993 --> 01:46:33,860 But your flesh just aches. 1641 01:46:34,029 --> 01:46:36,520 You want your child. It's out of sync. 1642 01:46:36,698 --> 01:46:40,600 A parent is not supposed to bury their child. 1643 01:46:43,338 --> 01:46:47,274 I feel, I feel sad for my family... 1644 01:46:47,443 --> 01:46:49,775 because we lost our son. 1645 01:46:51,146 --> 01:46:52,841 But... 1646 01:46:53,015 --> 01:46:56,178 I really feel sorry for the other families... 1647 01:46:56,351 --> 01:47:01,414 that is losing their kids as we speak. 1648 01:47:03,659 --> 01:47:05,524 And for what? 1649 01:47:05,694 --> 01:47:07,491 I... I don't... 1650 01:47:08,630 --> 01:47:11,690 That's the, I guess, the sickening part. 1651 01:47:11,867 --> 01:47:13,164 For what? 1652 01:47:13,569 --> 01:47:15,696 You've heard a lot about Halliburton lately. 1653 01:47:15,756 --> 01:47:20,833 Criticism is okay. We can take it. Criticism is not failure. 1654 01:47:21,009 --> 01:47:23,136 Our employees are doing a great job. 1655 01:47:23,312 --> 01:47:26,372 We're feeding the soldiers. We're rebuilding Iraq. 1656 01:47:26,548 --> 01:47:29,745 Will things go wrong? Sure they will. It's a war zone. 1657 01:47:29,918 --> 01:47:32,386 We're serving the troops because of what we know... 1658 01:47:32,554 --> 01:47:34,021 not who we know. 1659 01:47:34,189 --> 01:47:37,249 Let me tell you about Halliburton, the company I ran. 1660 01:47:37,361 --> 01:47:40,692 I'm proud of what I did at Halliburton. 1661 01:47:40,863 --> 01:47:44,026 The people are proud of what they've accomplished. I, frankly... 1662 01:47:44,199 --> 01:47:46,167 don't feel any need to apologize... 1663 01:47:46,335 --> 01:47:49,236 for the way I've spent my time over the last five years... 1664 01:47:49,404 --> 01:47:52,134 as the CEO and chairman of a major American corporation. 1665 01:47:52,307 --> 01:47:55,003 This is also an attempt to divert attention... 1666 01:47:55,177 --> 01:47:58,271 from the fact they have no energy policy. 1667 01:47:58,447 --> 01:48:01,746 And as the secretary of energy said, we were caught unawares. 1668 01:48:03,986 --> 01:48:08,514 In the middle of the war, Microsoft, DHL and other corporations... 1669 01:48:08,690 --> 01:48:10,851 invited Halliburton to a conference... 1670 01:48:11,026 --> 01:48:14,826 to figure out how much money could be made in Iraq. 1671 01:48:15,931 --> 01:48:17,762 Having worked this... 1672 01:48:19,368 --> 01:48:24,066 effort, even since before the, the invasion... 1673 01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:26,901 the liberation of Iraq started. 1674 01:48:27,075 --> 01:48:31,910 You, industry, are definitely a vital part of that effort. 1675 01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,140 We appreciate your interest in this. We need you. 1676 01:48:35,317 --> 01:48:37,478 Lots of you are small businesses and you are struggling. 1677 01:48:37,787 --> 01:48:41,985 How do we get a piece of this? You big guys are gonna get it. 1678 01:48:42,157 --> 01:48:45,649 The rest of us will have subcontracting capability or none at all. 1679 01:48:45,827 --> 01:48:48,091 USTDA is for you. 1680 01:48:48,263 --> 01:48:50,026 Once that oil starts flowing... 1681 01:48:50,198 --> 01:48:52,257 and money coming, gonna be lots of money. 1682 01:48:52,434 --> 01:48:54,834 It's the second-largest reserve of oil in the world. 1683 01:48:55,003 --> 01:48:56,732 No question of how much money's there. 1684 01:48:56,905 --> 01:49:01,074 I've been getting complaints from Iraqi firms and American firms. 1685 01:49:02,377 --> 01:49:04,436 The lack of transparency, the corruption. 1686 01:49:04,613 --> 01:49:09,312 I think the profits American companies are making, the main companies... 1687 01:49:09,484 --> 01:49:10,746 are so overwhelming. 1688 01:49:10,919 --> 01:49:14,377 I mean, when you have a line item for a million dollars... 1689 01:49:14,556 --> 01:49:17,753 and you subcontract it out for 50 or 60 or $70,000... 1690 01:49:17,926 --> 01:49:19,188 that's a huge profit. 1691 01:49:19,361 --> 01:49:21,761 It's the American taxpayer that's gonna pay for that. 1692 01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,297 And it's gonna get better. Start building relationships. 1693 01:49:25,467 --> 01:49:27,298 Because it's gonna get much better... 1694 01:49:27,469 --> 01:49:29,869 as the oil flows and their budgets increase. 1695 01:49:30,038 --> 01:49:32,871 Good news is, whatever it costs, the government will pay you. 1696 01:49:33,041 --> 01:49:35,874 War is always good for certain companies... 1697 01:49:36,044 --> 01:49:38,274 that are in the war, the business of war. 1698 01:49:41,049 --> 01:49:43,997 We're very proud of the work we are doing, 1699 01:49:44,286 --> 01:49:46,083 supporting U.S. government and military. 1700 01:49:46,254 --> 01:49:48,848 The real heroes of the campaign and the reconstruction... 1701 01:49:49,024 --> 01:49:51,390 are the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces. 1702 01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,120 We're proud of being any part we can in supporting them. 1703 01:49:54,296 --> 01:49:58,323 Halliburton delivers hot meals, supplies, clean clothing... 1704 01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:00,991 and communications to our soldiers... 1705 01:50:01,169 --> 01:50:05,401 so they can be a little closer to home. 1706 01:50:06,742 --> 01:50:08,209 It's a girl! 1707 01:50:08,377 --> 01:50:11,369 Halliburton. Proud to serve our troops. 1708 01:50:11,546 --> 01:50:14,947 I just read in the paper Halliburton got another contract. 1709 01:50:15,117 --> 01:50:18,018 - Halliburton got another contract. - That's right. 1710 01:50:18,186 --> 01:50:20,780 Which is not being... 1711 01:50:22,024 --> 01:50:23,355 contested at all. 1712 01:50:23,525 --> 01:50:24,924 Because nobody knows. 1713 01:50:25,093 --> 01:50:27,653 Well, it's in the paper, so somebody knows. 1714 01:50:27,829 --> 01:50:31,890 But that's after it happens, after the fact. It's too late. 1715 01:50:32,868 --> 01:50:36,998 The United States is now a major player in the Iraqi oil business. 1716 01:50:37,172 --> 01:50:39,265 American troops guard the oil fields... 1717 01:50:39,441 --> 01:50:42,535 as Texas oil workers assess their potential. 1718 01:50:42,711 --> 01:50:46,272 It's a safe environment to work in. We don't feel any risk. 1719 01:50:46,448 --> 01:50:49,383 We feel we're being well protected here, or we wouldn't be here. 1720 01:50:49,551 --> 01:50:50,813 It's no secret. I mean... 1721 01:50:50,986 --> 01:50:55,116 I make anywhere between 2 and 3000 a month. 1722 01:50:55,290 --> 01:50:57,520 A Halliburton employee out here driving a bus... 1723 01:50:57,693 --> 01:51:01,060 can make between 8 and 10,000 a month. Explain that one to me. 1724 01:51:01,229 --> 01:51:02,719 For 40 hours a week. 1725 01:51:02,898 --> 01:51:04,957 Driving the same two-and-half-mile route. 1726 01:51:05,133 --> 01:51:06,464 Go figure. 1727 01:51:06,635 --> 01:51:08,728 Where's the justification in that? 1728 01:51:08,904 --> 01:51:11,839 There's no other single area of the world today... 1729 01:51:11,942 --> 01:51:15,942 with the opportunity for business, new business... 1730 01:51:16,111 --> 01:51:19,080 similar to the opportunity that's available today in Iraq. 1731 01:51:19,247 --> 01:51:21,044 The president went in, did what he did. 1732 01:51:21,151 --> 01:51:24,243 We're all supporting him and our troops. 1733 01:51:24,419 --> 01:51:29,015 We wanna make sure that the efforts and the lost lives... 1734 01:51:29,191 --> 01:51:30,658 wasn't for no reason. 1735 01:51:30,826 --> 01:51:33,260 If it wasn't for the oil, nobody would be there. 1736 01:51:33,428 --> 01:51:35,089 Nobody would worry about it. 1737 01:51:35,263 --> 01:51:37,288 Unfortunately, at least for the near term... 1738 01:51:37,334 --> 01:51:42,260 we think it's gonna be a good situation, a dangerous situation. 1739 01:51:42,437 --> 01:51:44,997 Good for business, bad for the people. 1740 01:51:45,173 --> 01:51:48,631 Today on the news, Rumsfeld was saying... 1741 01:51:48,810 --> 01:51:52,746 and Wolfowitz was saying... 1742 01:51:52,914 --> 01:51:56,441 the Iraqi people are much, much better off. 1743 01:51:56,618 --> 01:51:59,712 Isn't it better that we got rid of Saddam... 1744 01:51:59,888 --> 01:52:03,654 and now the Iraqi people can do what they wanna do... 1745 01:52:03,825 --> 01:52:05,884 and really be free? 1746 01:52:06,061 --> 01:52:08,928 Will they ever be free? No, they'll not be free. 1747 01:52:09,097 --> 01:52:12,066 And where are the weapons of mass destruction? 1748 01:52:12,234 --> 01:52:15,169 It was a... We were duped. We were really duped. 1749 01:52:15,337 --> 01:52:16,804 And these poor people... 1750 01:52:16,972 --> 01:52:20,203 the young men and women who are being killed there. 1751 01:52:20,375 --> 01:52:22,104 - It's unnecessary. - That's a disgrace. 1752 01:52:22,277 --> 01:52:24,541 - That's it. No more. - That's a disgrace. 1753 01:52:24,713 --> 01:52:28,342 They died in a just cause, for defending freedom... 1754 01:52:28,517 --> 01:52:31,645 and they will not have died in vain. 1755 01:52:42,864 --> 01:52:46,197 Lila had called to tell me she was coming down from Flint... 1756 01:52:46,368 --> 01:52:50,202 to Washington D.C. to attend a jobs conference. 1757 01:52:50,605 --> 01:52:52,971 On her break, she said she was going to go... 1758 01:52:53,141 --> 01:52:56,167 and pay a visit to the White House. 1759 01:53:03,185 --> 01:53:06,416 Bush killed children. Iraqi children. 1760 01:53:06,588 --> 01:53:10,456 - My son, killed. - Killed my people in Spain, yesterday. 1761 01:53:10,625 --> 01:53:14,288 - Lies kill people. Your children too. - Yes, my son. 1762 01:53:14,462 --> 01:53:17,158 They have no business to do in Iraq now. They're killing... 1763 01:53:17,332 --> 01:53:18,924 - all these young Americans. - Yes. 1764 01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:22,763 For what? For oil. Bush is a terrorist. 1765 01:53:22,938 --> 01:53:25,304 - No, he isn't. This is all staged. - Yes, he is. 1766 01:53:25,473 --> 01:53:27,668 - This is all staged. - My son. 1767 01:53:27,843 --> 01:53:31,711 - Where was he killed? - You tell me my son is not a stage. 1768 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,212 - Where was he killed? - He was killed in Karbala. 1769 01:53:35,884 --> 01:53:40,116 April 2nd. It's not a stage. My son is dead. 1770 01:53:40,288 --> 01:53:42,882 There are a lot of other people too. 1771 01:53:46,862 --> 01:53:48,887 Blame al Qaeda. 1772 01:53:52,634 --> 01:53:54,568 What did that woman yell at you? 1773 01:53:54,736 --> 01:53:57,967 That I'm supposed to blame the al Qaeda. 1774 01:53:58,139 --> 01:54:02,701 The al Qaeda didn't make a decision to send my son to Iraq. 1775 01:54:03,745 --> 01:54:07,272 Ignorance that we deal with, with everyday people. 1776 01:54:07,449 --> 01:54:09,747 Because they don't know. People think they know... 1777 01:54:09,918 --> 01:54:13,945 but you don't know. I thought I knew, but I didn't know. 1778 01:54:19,027 --> 01:54:21,655 I need my son. 1779 01:54:39,314 --> 01:54:41,839 God, it's tougher than I thought it was gonna be... 1780 01:54:42,017 --> 01:54:43,882 to be here. 1781 01:54:44,719 --> 01:54:46,482 But it's freeing also... 1782 01:54:46,655 --> 01:54:48,520 because I finally have a place... 1783 01:54:48,690 --> 01:54:52,217 to put all my pain and all my anger... 1784 01:54:52,394 --> 01:54:54,487 and to release it. 1785 01:54:59,968 --> 01:55:04,029 I guess I was tired of seeing people like Lila Lipscomb suffer. 1786 01:55:04,205 --> 01:55:08,665 Especially when, out of the 535 members of Congress... 1787 01:55:08,843 --> 01:55:12,301 only one had an enlisted son in Iraq. 1788 01:55:15,450 --> 01:55:18,351 I asked Corporal Henderson of the United States Marine Corps... 1789 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,385 to join me on Capitol Hill... 1790 01:55:20,555 --> 01:55:23,752 to see how many members of Congress we could convince... 1791 01:55:23,925 --> 01:55:26,894 to enlist their children to go to Iraq. 1792 01:55:27,062 --> 01:55:28,552 Congressman, I'm Michael Moore. 1793 01:55:28,730 --> 01:55:30,994 - Hey, Michael. How are you doing? - Good. 1794 01:55:31,166 --> 01:55:33,930 - John Tanner, from Tennessee. - Very nice to meet you. 1795 01:55:34,102 --> 01:55:36,502 - What y'all doing? - I'm here with Corporal Henderson. 1796 01:55:36,671 --> 01:55:40,129 - United States Marine Corps. - Corporal, I was in the Navy. 1797 01:55:40,308 --> 01:55:42,799 - 1968 to '72. - Okay. 1798 01:55:42,978 --> 01:55:44,570 We had Marines guarding the base. 1799 01:55:44,746 --> 01:55:46,008 - You have kids? - Yeah. 1800 01:55:46,181 --> 01:55:48,342 Is there any way we can get them to enlist... 1801 01:55:48,516 --> 01:55:50,916 and go over there and help out with the effort? 1802 01:55:51,086 --> 01:55:54,214 - I've got all the brochures. - One of them has got two children. 1803 01:55:55,890 --> 01:55:58,825 See, there's not many congressmen that have kids over there. 1804 01:55:58,994 --> 01:56:01,224 In fact, only one. You know. 1805 01:56:01,396 --> 01:56:03,728 So we just thought maybe they... 1806 01:56:03,898 --> 01:56:06,332 - You guys should send your kids first. - That's right. 1807 01:56:06,501 --> 01:56:08,799 - What do you think about that? - I don't disagree. 1808 01:56:08,970 --> 01:56:11,564 You don't? Oh, good. Well, take some brochures. 1809 01:56:11,740 --> 01:56:13,765 - At least take a Marine brochure. - Thank you. 1810 01:56:13,942 --> 01:56:15,569 - Pass it around. - Yeah, well... 1811 01:56:15,744 --> 01:56:19,407 Encourage the fellow members if they're for the war to get behind it. 1812 01:56:19,581 --> 01:56:21,014 - Send their own. - Thank you. 1813 01:56:21,182 --> 01:56:23,480 Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. 1814 01:56:24,686 --> 01:56:27,177 Congressman? Michael Moore. 1815 01:56:27,355 --> 01:56:28,788 - How you doing today? - Good. 1816 01:56:28,957 --> 01:56:32,688 I'm trying to get members of Congress to get their kids to enlist in the Army... 1817 01:56:32,861 --> 01:56:35,056 and go over to Iraq. 1818 01:56:35,897 --> 01:56:37,296 Congressman. 1819 01:56:37,465 --> 01:56:38,898 Congressman. 1820 01:56:39,067 --> 01:56:41,297 Congressman Castle? Congressman Castle? 1821 01:56:41,469 --> 01:56:43,699 Congressman. Congressman. 1822 01:56:43,872 --> 01:56:46,033 Congressman Doolittle, Michael Moore. 1823 01:56:46,207 --> 01:56:47,902 I was wondering if... 1824 01:56:51,046 --> 01:56:52,775 Is there any way to...? 1825 01:56:55,417 --> 01:56:57,544 Of course, not a single member of Congress... 1826 01:56:57,719 --> 01:57:01,086 wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq. 1827 01:57:01,689 --> 01:57:03,554 And who could blame them? 1828 01:57:03,725 --> 01:57:06,091 Who would wanna give up their child? 1829 01:57:06,261 --> 01:57:08,161 Would you? 1830 01:57:08,329 --> 01:57:10,092 Would he? 1831 01:57:11,933 --> 01:57:14,060 I've always been amazed that the very people... 1832 01:57:14,235 --> 01:57:16,396 forced to live in the worst parts of town... 1833 01:57:16,938 --> 01:57:20,203 go to the worst schools and who have it the hardest... 1834 01:57:20,375 --> 01:57:25,312 are always the first to step up to defend that very system. 1835 01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,109 They serve so that we don't have to. 1836 01:57:29,284 --> 01:57:34,187 They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. 1837 01:57:34,355 --> 01:57:38,348 It is remarkable, their gift to us. 1838 01:57:38,526 --> 01:57:41,359 And all they ask for in return... 1839 01:57:41,529 --> 01:57:44,293 is that we never send them into harm's way... 1840 01:57:44,833 --> 01:57:48,234 unless it's absolutely necessary. 1841 01:57:49,704 --> 01:57:53,105 Will they ever trust us again? 1842 01:57:53,274 --> 01:57:55,469 He had used weapons. 1843 01:57:55,643 --> 01:57:56,871 We know where they are. 1844 01:57:58,813 --> 01:58:01,338 Around Tikrit, Baghdad and east, west, south and north. 1845 01:58:01,516 --> 01:58:05,816 There is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. 1846 01:58:05,987 --> 01:58:08,012 The struggle can only end... 1847 01:58:08,189 --> 01:58:11,056 with their complete and permanent destruction. 1848 01:58:11,226 --> 01:58:14,992 We wage a war to save civilization itself. 1849 01:58:16,331 --> 01:58:18,390 We did not seek it. 1850 01:58:19,134 --> 01:58:22,865 But we will fight it, and we will prevail. 1851 01:58:23,037 --> 01:58:25,062 George Orwell once wrote... 1852 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:30,007 that it's not a matter of whether the war is not real or if it is. 1853 01:58:30,178 --> 01:58:32,476 Victory is not possible. 1854 01:58:33,548 --> 01:58:39,009 The war is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. 1855 01:58:39,187 --> 01:58:41,747 A hierarchical society is only possible... 1856 01:58:41,923 --> 01:58:44,790 on the basis of poverty and ignorance. 1857 01:58:45,593 --> 01:58:48,061 This new version is the past... 1858 01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:50,720 and no different past can ever have existed. 1859 01:58:52,667 --> 01:58:55,261 In principle, the war effort is always planned... 1860 01:58:55,436 --> 01:58:58,667 to keep society on the brink of starvation. 1861 01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:03,140 The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects. 1862 01:59:03,311 --> 01:59:08,442 And its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia... 1863 01:59:08,616 --> 01:59:12,848 but to keep the very structure of society intact. 1864 01:59:13,021 --> 01:59:14,955 There's an old saying in Tennessee. 1865 01:59:15,123 --> 01:59:17,114 I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee. 1866 01:59:17,292 --> 01:59:18,919 Fool me once... 1867 01:59:19,661 --> 01:59:21,458 shame on... 1868 01:59:22,463 --> 01:59:24,397 shame on you. 1869 01:59:26,734 --> 01:59:28,725 You fool me, we can't get fooled again. 1870 01:59:28,903 --> 01:59:31,098 For once, we agreed.