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I am 21 years old.

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I am a pin-up model.

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I work
with a photographer

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and he said
that's Universal

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or UI,
like the one called

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is looking for someone
to pose in a film.

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So I called
and made an appointment.

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I went and talked to Mr. Hitchcock

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and basically
has to take off.

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It's dressed
again and then

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interviewed by,
uh, Janet Leigh

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and I have to strip it
for him too.

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Well, only in me
pants, but anyway ..

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My body is very
-like.
So I was hired.

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I have to report
for makeup

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I don't know,
one or two days later

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and there
the red light is on

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and "Not entered"
and all of this.

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And I thought, "Oh, God.  You know, these are
expecting for strippers."

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I'm not enough
really naked.

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I have, uh, what we call
patch crotch.

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During shooting
with shower

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leave and everything

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it will release.

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I told Hitchcock, I say

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"Why don't we take this item?"

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And he said, "No. No."

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All the time
She's wearing a suit

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black tie, white shirt.

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I am employed
for two or three days

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and finally work
for seven.

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This is amazing
it took a long time

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to do it
p... one particular scene

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because it's about
one third of what

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Janet Leigh has to work
for the film.

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There are 78
pieces of film

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in about 45 seconds.

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Spend seven days in a small set

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shoot, you know,
like a short scene

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quite a lot
is unheard of.

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Generally today,
You're lucky

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if you get it
One day to kill someone.

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Oh, that's definitely
an obsession.

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You shoot it
seven day trip

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it's absolute
an obsession.

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Think of Hitchcock
to film this murder

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separate from the others
this film

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which means
that way

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the murder now
will become

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accepted
part of entertainment.

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There is
violence in American films

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but there's nothing like "Psycho."

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Nothing intimate,
nothing is designed

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no it
kind of without mercy.

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I think he knows what is in his hand.

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And he might
feel like

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the entire movie
depends on that moment

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it's this
difficult moment.

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You should have seen blood.

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All in all,
the whole place...

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Well,
is too terrible  to describe.
Terrible.

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That, I think
is the first modern...

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... expression of...

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... female body
under attack.

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And in some cases

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that's the most
pure expression.

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Because
it destroys.

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Women have the highest bills
in the 30s and 20s.

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And it's slowly evaporating in the forties.

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And when we arrived
until the end of the 50s

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the woman, you know,
secondary in the film.

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And Hitch, sort of,
that's what the film did

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by the way, say that

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he killed
Woman.

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And that's really the first A movie  to deal with
with this type

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horror, rubbish,
tabloid things.

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No one wants to make it

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and they leave,
"Are you crazy? " You just did it
"North by Northwest"

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"This extraordinary blow

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" Now you want to do it
It's like

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"black and white, what is this
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I just created
a film

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"North By Northwest."

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"North by Northwest"
like

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highest achievement
in... at each level.

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It's great entertainment,
it's classy

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It has a movie star, and that,
You know, that, that

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beautiful,
is colorful.

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So, a... how are you
follow that

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with a joke?

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I once made a film, eh

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not tongue-in-cheek,
called "Psycho."

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- Yes.
- That is...

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That, that's a big joke,
do you know?

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And I'm horrified
to find it

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some people
take it seriously.

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It's meant
causes people

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shouting and shouting
And so on

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uh, but nothing more than that
yells and shouts

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on the switchback train.

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For those of us who work in
horror genres, they rarely wear tuxedos.

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This is not the film
wears a tuxedo too.

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This is a very good movie
lots of jeans and T-shirts.

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But it's told by a man
who wears a tuxedo.

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He wants to stray
outside his comfort zone.

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One of the things
he's ready

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"You don't know me
at all."

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And that's what "Psycho"
is actually about.

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What attracted you
for this one?

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I think the murder was
in the bathtub.

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Come suddenly

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you know,
is about all.

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Hitchcock is very, very
aware of the competition.

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He realized that Clouzot
had done a kind of film

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that he feels that he should be
and can be made.

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And of course,
when criticism starts

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call Clouzot
"The Hitchcock France .."

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Well, you attack
the territory

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and him, believe me,
he noticed.

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"Psycho" really
at that time

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where the gloves
are released.

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It feels
like revenge Hitch

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in Hollywood
to some extent.

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In many levels, this is, um, the masterpiece.

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I... continue to feel like, the movie
is an act of aggression

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against his fans,
his critics, actors.

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- Yes
- That, just feeling angry.

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Like, he got hurt
and he has back pain.

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Sudden violence
from the bathing scene

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in "Psycho"
means to him

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for reasons dated
back you know, 20 years

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to origins
World War II.

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Think Hitchcock
is English

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and the United States
is not sufficiently prepared

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for danger and
the horrors of World War II.

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There are a few moments in the films that talk about it.

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You can hear bombs falling on the streets  and houses.
Don't take me out.

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Wait a minute, this is a big story and you are part of it.

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It's too late to do anything
here now

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except standing in the dark
and let them come.

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What's the problem
with us?

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We don't just let the Nazis
do our oars for us  but our thoughts!

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Ye Gods
and little fish!

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One of them is
"Doubtful Shadow"

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only about one year
and half

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after Pearl Harbor

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set in Santa Rosa
in California.

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You can see how
in that movie

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he is rather punishing

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this city
because it's naive.

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You live in a dream.

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You are a sleeper,
blind.

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How do you know what the world is like?

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Do you know the world
is cached?

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Do you know if you are torn
front off home

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Will you find a pig?

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He basically said

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"America,
You are too naive. " You think you are safe
in your bathroom, at home

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"with, you know, your family
and the closest loved ones?

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No, not you.
Sorry."

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Hitchcock
has many obsessions

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but one of them is that he
was talked about with "The Birds"

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is randomness
life.

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There is no explanation for birds that attack.

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For him it's life.

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You are there,
everything is fine and then

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someone has cancer and
they die two weeks later.

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Or your life is good and then
You got hit by a bus.

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Hitchcock is someone who,
for several years now

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appeared on people's TV,
on Sunday night.

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Victims fall or fall
with terrible money.

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I think the back broke immediately
it touched the floor.

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That's difficult
to describe

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that way,...

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He is an icon.

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She's like this

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like uncle,
but a creepy man

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who presents sex
and violence against Americans  fermented with black humor,
every Sunday night.

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And Americans feel comfortable with him in 1960.

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If someone else
has made "Psycho"

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it's very possible
that the reaction is

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will not be
the same.

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"Psycho" comes at a very unique time
in American pop culture.

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Almost pre-date
turmoil and shocks

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and upcoming
trauma

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in the 1960s
with racial violence

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with politics
murder.

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I didn't say that
Hitchcock anticipated that

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and know
what he did.

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But what he knows  is he stuck
by his past  that is not the time for
again for Grace Kelly.

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That's not the time
for

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what he calls "Beautiful
technicolor knick-knacks."

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When you see
in "Psycho"

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and you see that
is beautiful

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elegant, big, rich

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technicolor films
from the fifties

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You know
something that changes.

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I think it's "Psycho & apos;  is the response
the movie changes

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and to increase the bet

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and doesn't want
to be forgotten.

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The year 1959 is that year
of" Some Like it Hot. "

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" Suddenly, Last Summer, "
and" Anatomy of Murder. "

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The three films
push the boundary.

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So, there is something
in the air, culturally

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Hollywood
has entered.

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"Psycho" out
in this period

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where we posted
atomic age

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but pre-civil rights.

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You know,
if you think about it  creepy
Violence
they are science
is wrong

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but you don't feel like that
it will happen to you.

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"Psycho" You feel
can happen to you.

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This is the first movie
it shows, huh

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You can be vulnerable,
naked, alone in the bathroom

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and someone wearing
clothing

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from their dead mother
will go

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to enter
and only stab you

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that's why
they will do it.

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Americans are good
obsessed with households.

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They want
to say to themselves

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in their personal person
domestic space

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at least there  they are safe.

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The Soviet
and anyone

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they might not
arrive at you

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in your bathroom!

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A few days
after "Psycho"

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started shooting
in November 1959

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the Clutter family
in Kansas was killed.

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That is
Murder "In Cold Blood".

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You're not
staying next door

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to Norman Rockwell
family again.

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You live in the next house
to the Manson family.

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This is new,
modern American family

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which is
v... very inspired

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Tobe Hooper "The Texas
Chainsaw Massacre."

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The first Playboy club
opens in Chicago.

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The most famous
star sitcom

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1950s

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Lucille Ball and Ricky
Ricardo are divorced.

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Birth control pills
are approved by the FDA.

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You can see
in the bathroom

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because of this tension buildup
of all of these things

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all of this
American fears

259
00:13:52,248 --> 00:13:54,456
inside,
from the quiet 50s.

260
00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:55,866
This... everything
will explode

261
00:13:56,044 --> 00:13:57,706
and it comes out
in this scene.

262
00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:13,266
While I am at the critic
list in New York for review.

263
00:14:13,436 --> 00:14:17,146
Press all invited
to the cinema

264
00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:20,562
that day opens at 10:00
or 10:30 a.m.

265
00:14:20,735 --> 00:14:22,192
with the first
show.

266
00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:25,275
When you enter,
Hitchcock's voice is

267
00:14:25,281 --> 00:14:28,149
blaring
on the loudspeaker that says

268
00:14:28,326 --> 00:14:31,569
"Nothing is permitted
after the image starts

269
00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:34,622
and please don't reveal
finally."

270
00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,829
Before "Psycho,"
You know, movies for

271
00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:40,578
as a form of entertainment
is relatively disposable.

272
00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,955
Something extraordinary,
compared to today

273
00:14:43,132 --> 00:14:46,091
incredible arrivals and
went in the cinema.

274
00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:50,550
And Hitchcock is brilliant
said we don't want

275
00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:53,924
whoever comes after the beginning of this film.

276
00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:57,266
That changes the way film
is exhibited.

277
00:14:57,271 --> 00:15:00,480
The reason is because of the leading woman, Janet Leigh  killed one third
from the road through

278
00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:02,858
I don't want people to whisper to one another

279
00:15:03,027 --> 00:15:05,360


280
00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,567
"When did Janet Leigh
come?"

281
00:15:09,117 --> 00:15:11,734
He wants to build
anticipation.

282
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,119
Bathroom.

283
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:17,198
Something terrible
happened in the bathroom.

284
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:18,866
We know this
from the trailer.

285
00:15:18,876 --> 00:15:20,020
We don't know
it's Janet Leigh

286
00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:22,036
therefore Vera Miles
in the trailer

287
00:15:22,213 --> 00:15:23,875
and not Janet Leigh.

288
00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:28,467
Minutes
curtains open

289
00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,549
and start stabbing

290
00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:36,342
there is, there is a continuous scream  from the audience.

291
00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:37,352
Like that, contra... you,
uh, you can't hear

292
00:15:39,230 --> 00:15:41,722
whatever
from the soundtrack

293
00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:43,724
through the whole
bathing scene.

294
00:15:43,734 --> 00:15:47,068
So, you have a scream
from Janet Leigh

295
00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:48,903
screams
from all women

296
00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:50,317
surround you
in the theater

297
00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:52,403
and screaming high
strings from Herrmann.

298
00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:54,337
That's definitely
total chaos.

299
00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:57,534


300
00:15:57,540 --> 00:16:01,159
That's actually the first time in film history  where it's not safe
in theaters.

301
00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:04,123
And when I walked out
to Times Square

302
00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:06,876
during the day...

303
00:16:07,049 --> 00:16:08,961
... I feel
I have been raped.

304
00:16:09,135 --> 00:16:10,671
In 1895,
when Lumiere Brothers

305
00:16:15,183 --> 00:16:17,891
the first really shows the movie
for the audience

306
00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:22,555
one of the fragments
they showed it

307
00:16:22,773 --> 00:16:24,605
from the attractive train
becomes a station.

308
00:16:24,609 --> 00:16:28,774
And that,
legend has it

309
00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:30,315
they thought the train
would hit them

310
00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:31,842
and they shouted
and it was like

311
00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:33,949
cause... a
step on people

312
00:16:33,951 --> 00:16:35,192
trying to evacuate this

313
00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:36,780
this room
that it is filtered.

314
00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,119
They don't, they don't understand the concept.

315
00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:41,032
You know,
"Psycho" came

316
00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:42,369
and have a similar type of impact.

317
00:16:42,418 --> 00:16:44,876


318
00:16:45,046 --> 00:16:46,708
This is the only movie
in my childhood  that my mother won't
let me go and see.

319
00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:48,998
That's good
silly  because I see
there is nothing but horror movies

320
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,590
every weekend,
two of them, actually.

321
00:16:50,593 --> 00:16:52,960
But "Psiko?"
No, I can't leave.

322
00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:55,675
When I was a child
I will hear about it

323
00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:58,966
I think the name
is a cycle.

324
00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:00,245
Like that about some people
killers on motorbikes.

325
00:17:00,269 --> 00:17:01,389
But, um, I really,
get this Super 8 version

326
00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,391
and only,
like, keep running  the movie ends
and again.

327
00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:06,974
When the audience saw this

328
00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:09,021
very
pleasant character.

329
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,439
Someone who is quite familiar with
in terms of, I need more money

330
00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:15,031


331
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,026


332
00:17:17,203 --> 00:17:21,197


333
00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:24,791
I'm getting older,
the man I love will not marry me.

334
00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:26,121
They, they are really addicted.

335
00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:29,213
Oh, Sam,
Let's get married.

336
00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:36,049
Yes, and live with me
in the warehouse

337
00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:38,384
behind the hardware store
at Fairvale.

338
00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:39,757
We will have a lot of laughter.

339
00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:41,971
"Of course he went
to survive in the film!

340
00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,261
That's Janet Leigh."

341
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,847
Instead,
he is taking a shower.

342
00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:49,224
From nowhere,
he's killed

343
00:17:49,443 --> 00:17:52,436
by... an old woman?

344
00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:54,229
Who can't even see?

345
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,735
What is this
going on here?

346
00:17:56,951 --> 00:18:00,911
He has ruined the
agreement of filmmakers and viewers  and the audience
can't wait to see more.

347
00:18:01,122 --> 00:18:04,741
He used to be a respected director  and you know, he's a bona fide movie star

348
00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:07,538


349
00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:11,331


350
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:14,048
and I think you like that
into sensation

351
00:18:14,051 --> 00:18:17,340
from that
maybe shockwave

352
00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:19,721
clear
happens.

353
00:18:19,724 --> 00:18:22,182
And I think
at that time gave a signal

354
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:23,887
new American cinema.

355
00:18:24,061 --> 00:18:25,973
Maybe a new world cinema,
in a certain way.

356
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:27,874
Now I don't know that
has ever been done.

357
00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:29,434
- Right.
- Uh, you know, uh...

358
00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:32,192
Or maybe there are some
Czechoslovakia films that aren't clear  who did it and there was a
man like...

359
00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:33,059
- I did it first!
- Yes

360
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,776
I can think of it
has culturally made us

361
00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:39,108
thinking about that
structure for example

362
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:41,026
um, first season
"Game of Thrones"

363
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,362
where
we are the most interesting

364
00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:45,155
character Ned Stark

365
00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:46,785
just kind of cruel
killed in front of us.

366
00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,789


367
00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:56,925
In terms of culture, we really have to do that
remembered the power

368
00:18:56,927 --> 00:18:58,543
from that
narrative trope.

369
00:18:58,763 --> 00:19:01,003
The reality is, he used the whole
first half of the film

370
00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:03,014
as a trick to get you to this house.

371
00:19:03,184 --> 00:19:04,661
And the only way you will get to this house  is if you believe
that he is someone who

372
00:19:04,685 --> 00:19:07,428
stole $ 40,000.

373
00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,346
And he got it
at the wrong exit of the freeway  and on this small little road
where there are no people passing by.

374
00:19:09,357 --> 00:19:13,226
There are many things
he said here about

375
00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:16,440
our society
changed at that time.

376
00:19:16,447 --> 00:19:18,247
We try to get it
as fast as we can  from Los Angeles to
Chicago or New York.

377
00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:21,450
And enter into
these small cities

378
00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:23,110
no
is needed anymore.

379
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,954


380
00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:27,614


381
00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:30,000


382
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,605
And Norman doesn't even seem to mind.

383
00:19:31,629 --> 00:19:32,981
She's ready to change
sheets

384
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:34,121
every day
with no one there.

385
00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:36,373
One by one,
You drop formalities.

386
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:38,416
I shouldn't bother
changing the sheets

387
00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,589
but old habits are difficult to remove.

388
00:19:42,765 --> 00:19:45,929
When he goes
with $ 40,000

389
00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:50,100
he is on the road
and he is in the west.

390
00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:53,265
There is something basic about American dating back

391
00:19:53,442 --> 00:19:55,399
throughout the trip
towards Manifest Destiny.

392
00:19:55,569 --> 00:20:00,109
"Go west! Find your fate,
find your freedom."

393
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:02,490
Marion tries
to do that.

394
00:20:02,493 --> 00:20:05,281
And that's where
he met his destiny.

395
00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:13,164
It is very interesting to compare the "Psycho" novel  with the film
"Psycho."

396
00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,036
Shower scenes
are much different.

397
00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:16,876


398
00:20:17,091 --> 00:20:18,502
This is very short
in the book.

399
00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:20,842
So on page 28

400
00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:22,798
um, here it is
bathing scene.

401
00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:29,301
"A roar
deafening.

402
00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:32,437
" The room starts
to evaporate.

403
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,602
"That's why he didn't do it
listen to the open door

404
00:20:34,775 --> 00:20:37,939
" or watch his voice
footsteps.

405
00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:40,354
"And at first at that time
the shower curtain parted

406
00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:43,152
" the steam
covered the face.

407
00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:45,242
"Then he did it
see there

408
00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:48,116
" just face, peek
through the curtain

409
00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:50,622
"hanging in the air
like a mask.

410
00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,616
" Half a scarf
hiding hair

411
00:20:52,626 --> 00:20:55,289
"and teary eyes
looking inhumane.

412
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:58,376
" But it's not a mask.
It is impossible.

413
00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:00,711
"The skin was
dead white powder

414
00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:04,845
" and two spots of busy rouge
centered on the cheekbones.

415
00:21:04,847 --> 00:21:08,306
"It's not a mask, it's
a crazy woman's face.

416
00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:11,177
" Mary starts screaming
and then the curtain opens further

417
00:21:11,395 --> 00:21:14,513
"And a hand appears,
holds a meat knife.

418
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:18,650
" That's a knife, it's a
for a moment then cuts the scream...

419
00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:20,102
... and his head. "

420
00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:29,407
The fact that Hitchcock
brought Saul Bass to office

421
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:33,164
in the bathroom as his place
itself, sort of an independent thing

422
00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:35,917
uh, tell me
that he knows

423
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,536
that, uh, he must do it something special

424
00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:38,713
with a bathing scene.

425
00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:42,582
"Outback,
Mary is taking a shower.

426
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,298
"We saw the bathroom
the door was pushed slowly open.

427
00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:50,466
" The sound of the bathroom
drowned out any sound.

428
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,431
"The door is slowly
and closed carefully. " And we see
the shadow of a woman

429
00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:55,186


430
00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:57,689
"fall
curtain bathroom.

431
00:21:57,858 --> 00:22:00,350
" Mary's back turned
into the curtain.

432
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:03,312
"White brightness
the bathroom is almost blinding.

433
00:22:03,489 --> 00:22:05,151
" Suddenly we see
the hand reaches for

434
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:07,782
"hold the shower curtain,
get rid of it. " Cut to Mary,
very close.

435
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:11,241
"When he turned
in response to that feeling

436
00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:13,447
" And the sound of the bathroom curtain
was removed.

437
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:16,412
"A pure horror view
erupted on his face.

438
00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:20,078
" A low and terrible moan

439
00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:21,671
"Start to rise
out of his throat.

440
00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:24,417
" A hand came
in the shot.

441
00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:26,630
"The hand holds a very large bread knife. " The knife stone
destroys the screen

442
00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,720
"Almost total
silver void.

443
00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,048
" Cutting it.

444
00:22:31,058 --> 00:22:34,017
"An impression from the cutting of the knife

445
00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:35,347


446
00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:37,930


447
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:40,774
"As if tearing on the screen,
tearing the film.

448
00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,894
" On top of it, in short, give a shout.

449
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,905
"And then shut up. " And then the terrible
pounded when Mary's body fell into the bathtub.

450
00:22:47,074 --> 00:22:50,317
"The opposite angle,
white is empty

451
00:22:50,494 --> 00:22:53,032
" blur
water bath

452
00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:55,071
"His hands are interesting
The shower curtain is back.

453
00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:57,741
" We caught a flicker
from a glimpse of the killer.

454
00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:00,915
"A woman, her face
wrinkles with madness

455
00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:04,335
" her head is wild
with hair

456
00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,625
"As if she wore a
-fever wig. " And then we saw
only a curtain

457
00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:09,002
"Close the bathtub

458
00:23:09,013 --> 00:23:11,096
" and listen in a hurry
water bath.

459
00:23:11,265 --> 00:23:13,097
"Above the shower-bar we see
the bathroom door opens again " and after a while we hear t
he is heard slamming the front door.

460
00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:15,475


461
00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:19,475


462
00:23:19,648 --> 00:23:22,857


463
00:23:23,027 --> 00:23:26,145
"Cut to the corpse. " Lie down half in,
half of the bathtub.

464
00:23:26,322 --> 00:23:28,655
"His head was rolled over,
touched the floor. " His hair was wet, one eye
was wide open as if erupting.

465
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:31,988
"One arm lay limp and
wet along the tile floor.

466
00:23:32,161 --> 00:23:36,326
" Down
side of the bathtub

467
00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:40,417
"Running thick and dark
along porcelain

468
00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:42,665
" We saw lots of small
threads of blood.

469
00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:45,459
"The camera moves away from the body

470
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:47,666
" Travel slowly across the bathroom
past the toilet,
out into the bedroom. "

471
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,127
I thought it was a bathroom
an elevated movie scene. = I think it's one of them
spectacular work.

472
00:23:51,138 --> 00:23:54,176


473
00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:57,676


474
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,983


475
00:24:09,156 --> 00:24:12,320


476
00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:15,201


477
00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,535


478
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:22,542
The film moves
is inevitable to the scene.

479
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:26,083
You don't know that as,
as a viewer.

480
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,332
Sam, this is the last time.

481
00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,677
I pay too.

482
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,842
They also paid
who met in the hotel room.

483
00:24:36,392 --> 00:24:38,475
There are many motels
In this area.

484
00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:41,686
You should,
I mean, just to be safe.

485
00:24:41,855 --> 00:24:45,940
M... mother.
My, my, my mother,
eh, what do you say?

486
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,194
It's not him
q... enough of him today.

487
00:24:50,364 --> 00:24:53,232
Great Hitchcock
in all settings.

488
00:24:53,409 --> 00:24:57,870
When he packs
to go meet his girlfriend  You see a shower
in the background.

489
00:24:58,038 --> 00:24:59,904
And it's very specific  the bathroom has ended
his shoulder.

490
00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:01,539
You know, when
came to Norman, when he was

491
00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:03,496
t... t, he talks about
the bathroom and he stutters

492
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:05,376


493
00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:07,458


494
00:25:07,464 --> 00:25:08,650
and he can't
really say "Toilet"

495
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:09,754
you know,
or, or "Bathroom."

496
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:12,126
And, uh...

497
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,175
... there ..

498
00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:18,214
- Bathroom.
- Yes

499
00:25:18,392 --> 00:25:19,953
That's what, what?
is great about Hitchcock.

500
00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:21,177
I mean, he is always,
really like

501
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:23,182
tone to them
c... moment character.

502
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,221
That desperate urge
at first.

503
00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:26,598
This is crazy good.

504
00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:28,016
The idea is to be clean  it's his shoulder.

505
00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:29,271
He can't see because

506
00:25:29,445 --> 00:25:30,445
from density
from water

507
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,566
the
is really pretty

508
00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:33,573
because he sank
in his worries and fears.

509
00:25:33,699 --> 00:25:37,318
Cutting
from the wiper

510
00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:39,535
indicates cutting,
the knife.

511
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,530
That's kind of,
it's very hard and wet

512
00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:43,949
and slippery, sharp,
piercing movements.

513
00:25:44,126 --> 00:25:47,290


514
00:25:47,504 --> 00:25:49,086
And that is a long build-up  but we don't know
that the rain will happen

515
00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:51,839
get off
later he will go

516
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:53,253
including his own blood.

517
00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:55,589
I definitely got the sensation

518
00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:57,299
that the shower scene
is something that is Hitchcock

519
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,631
maybe
has worked towards his whole life.

520
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:01,601
Does he clean the house?

521
00:26:07,983 --> 00:26:09,474
He is washing
the bathroom wall.

522
00:26:09,651 --> 00:26:12,268
Hmm!
It must be
scattered a lot.

523
00:26:12,446 --> 00:26:14,563
Well, why not?
That's what we all think about.

524
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,780
He killed him there,
he has to clean

525
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:21,598
the stain
before he left.

526
00:26:21,622 --> 00:26:22,954
W... you really can't talk
about bathing scenes

527
00:26:22,956 --> 00:26:24,851
without talking about it
the rest of the film.

528
00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:26,867
Without a living room scene,
is clear

529
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:29,585
the shower scene
doesn't really function properly

530
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,625


531
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:33,711
because the living room scene
is kind of very sad

532
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:35,333
beautiful connection

533
00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:37,924
it came before this savagery.

534
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:39,713
Is your time so empty?

535
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:41,176
No. Uh...

536
00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,143
Well, I... I
run the office.

537
00:26:45,312 --> 00:26:48,350
And, uh, take care of the cabin
and the base and, and do a little

538
00:26:48,524 --> 00:26:50,607
uh, assignment
for my mother

539
00:26:50,818 --> 00:26:54,402
which he let me
might be able to do.

540
00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:55,982
Do you go out
with friends?

541
00:26:59,576 --> 00:27:01,533
Well, a... the best boy
friend is his mother.

542
00:27:01,745 --> 00:27:06,206
There is a very large opening
to the bathroom.

543
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,332
Isn't it better
if you place it...

544
00:27:10,212 --> 00:27:11,703
... some places...

545
00:27:15,509 --> 00:27:18,968
Do you mean institution?
A mental hospital?

546
00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:20,712
Look how much he is still alive.

547
00:27:20,931 --> 00:27:24,424
Even though he was previously
nervous and moving  suddenly he
becomes very silent.

548
00:27:24,601 --> 00:27:27,264


549
00:27:27,437 --> 00:27:29,165
Maybe it's time
he decided to kill him.

550
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:30,430
- Yes
- Yes

551
00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:32,564
Yes, he is super
confident now.

552
00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:34,851
Yes, he almost moved his head.

553
00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:38,772
- Only his eyes
- Wow.

554
00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:41,490
Oh, he is very angry.

555
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,735
- And he's just scared.
- Yes

556
00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,236
Oh, y... you don't, uh

557
00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:47,094
You will not return
to your room already?

558
00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:50,666
"Maybe I'll come back
to my room now, Norman.

559
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,786
" It's fun
chatting.

560
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,458
Very sorry
about your loneliness. "

561
00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:58,458
Whoa!

562
00:27:58,468 --> 00:28:01,427
This is the first moment
that you were with him and not him.

563
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:03,217
Yes, he really
walked away from the camera.

564
00:28:03,432 --> 00:28:05,032
- Yes right.
- And then we are with him.

565
00:28:05,058 --> 00:28:06,515
- My work here is finished.
- Yes

566
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,555
I am no longer the protagonist of this story.

567
00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:11,346
There is a private one
Dinner here.

568
00:28:12,733 --> 00:28:14,440
And, uh...

569
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:16,818
Oh, by the way,
this picture...

570
00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,400
... amazing
meaning...

571
00:28:22,284 --> 00:28:23,991
... because...

572
00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,618
Uh, let's join
to cabin number one.

573
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,455
Painting
that was discarded by Mr. Bates  to be Tom peeping,
actually

574
00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:39,466
16th or early
17th century painting.

575
00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:42,381
"Susanna and the Elders"
is actually a story of morality

576
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,008
about a virtuous woman
who bathed in her garden

577
00:28:48,018 --> 00:28:51,762
and spied on
by two older men.

578
00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:55,398
And the theme is developing  maybe as a result
counter-reform motives.

579
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,609
That's good
or that's just an excuse

580
00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:02,196
to paint
female nudity.

581
00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:04,779
Now, interesting thing
about that, it's about adultery.

582
00:29:04,952 --> 00:29:09,071
And that's very interesting because of that

583
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,248


584
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:14,413


585
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,661
Mary,
who's in the bathroom

586
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,543
good
cleanse itself

587
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:23,213
committing adultery
with married men.

588
00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:25,424
In art history,
is around three

589
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:27,930
or four different phases
about how the artist

590
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,643
describes Susanna
and Elders.

591
00:29:31,812 --> 00:29:35,897
Lucas van Leyden shows the
second Elder in the famous

592
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:39,188
whereas
Susanna is small

593
00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:41,273
is taking a shower
long distance.

594
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,488
But at that time
You arrived at Tintoretto

595
00:29:43,657 --> 00:29:45,865
he's full frontal.

596
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,196
Rubens starts
to retrieve and investigate

597
00:29:48,203 --> 00:29:51,412
the psychological
intensity at that time.

598
00:29:51,415 --> 00:29:55,534
Rembrandt uses strength
light and dark

599
00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:58,374
highlights
to improve drama.

600
00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:00,170
interesting thing
about the painting

601
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,799
is you already full
Susanna's frontal nudity

602
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:07,053
but the two elders
not only looked at him  they actually grope
and break it.

603
00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:09,763
It's almost
rape scene

604
00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,554
it's happening
before our eyes.

605
00:30:12,561 --> 00:30:14,803
This is... an extraordinary painting
which he took.

606
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:17,848
That's nothing old
baroque painting.

607
00:30:17,858 --> 00:30:20,521
This is voyeurism.

608
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,019
He deleted
voyeuristic paintings

609
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:25,693
to be a voyeur
looking for in the bathroom.

610
00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:29,325
He can choose
from 50 different examples

611
00:30:29,494 --> 00:30:32,157
but he chose this one because
has the most number

612
00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:34,204
the information he
can use for the film.

613
00:30:34,291 --> 00:30:37,500
I like it
a hole in the wall

614
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:41,454
the size of his face

615
00:30:41,465 --> 00:30:43,422
who told you that he has done this
more than once

616
00:30:43,425 --> 00:30:46,463
and he succeeded
comfortable for himself.

617
00:30:46,636 --> 00:30:48,798


618
00:30:48,972 --> 00:30:51,180
The idea that he
looks the same as you  it ties you with it.

619
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:53,137
And when you remove it
the walls

620
00:30:53,143 --> 00:30:55,510
and you are now
watching him

621
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,058
and you watch, and
You are watching together

622
00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:01,308
then you
in a new place

623
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:03,772
where things can happen
is more frightening.

624
00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:05,896
"Psycho" is described
from another work

625
00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:08,527
the oeuvre
by their gaze.

626
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,614
Bird Birds
are looking at us

627
00:31:12,621 --> 00:31:14,203
each individual bird

628
00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,697
birds die,
are looking at us.

629
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,332
Mom is looking at us
from a socket without eyes.

630
00:31:18,502 --> 00:31:21,586
Marion dies
with eyes open.

631
00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:24,793
That look includes
and accuses us  at the same time.

632
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:27,504
That is a mirror image,
You know, it works in two directions.

633
00:31:27,511 --> 00:31:30,379
We are looking for
eye death

634
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:32,927


635
00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:34,799


636
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:37,218
and eyes of death
are looking at us.

637
00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:40,730
And it's inclusive
and terrible.

638
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,816
Laugh
and tears ..

639
00:31:43,819 --> 00:31:46,186
... and cruel eyes
are studying you.

640
00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:47,570
My mother, there?

641
00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:52,525
God is studying you,
because there are a number of

642
00:31:52,702 --> 00:31:55,069
You know, God point-of-view
shot at "Psycho"

643
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,496
the same as there is
in "The Birds."

644
00:31:57,666 --> 00:32:00,579
Hitchcock & s; God
is cruel and arbitrary

645
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,453
a bit like that
_ bird of prey or raptor

646
00:32:04,631 --> 00:32:06,543
which, uh, looks down
is rather cold and not interested  on human subjects.

647
00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:08,382
In the shower sequence,
violence is directed

648
00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:13,297
and the knife
comes towards us

649
00:32:13,306 --> 00:32:16,549
so we are punished
for being voyeurs.

650
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,894
There are consequences
for watching

651
00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:22,180
and supervised.

652
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:24,022
In the character
from James Stewart

653
00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:25,979


654
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:29,562
if we identify
with it in "Rear Window"

655
00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:32,948
has a very literal fall
at the end

656
00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:35,238
where he breaks
the other leg

657
00:32:35,245 --> 00:32:39,285
means six more,
eight months of pain and itching

658
00:32:39,499 --> 00:32:41,582
and can't
to disrupt Grace Kelly.

659
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:45,495
All of that
is related to Hitchcock.

660
00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:48,039
I bet you
nine people out of ten...

661
00:32:49,718 --> 00:32:53,177
... if they see it
something is opposite

662
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,969
like a woman who undresses
and goes to sleep

663
00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,010
or even sometimes a man is circling

664
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:02,224
the room
doesn't do anything...

665
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:07,228
... nine out of ten people
will remain and be seen.

666
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,445
They will not turn
and say

667
00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:13,235
"There is no
from my business"

668
00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:15,741
and pull down the curtains themselves.

669
00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:17,076
They won't do it.

670
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,827
Initially
in the film

671
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,200
You fly to the window
with the curtain closed

672
00:33:24,377 --> 00:33:27,245
so you start
as a voyeur.

673
00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:29,414
And if you think about it,
if the movie opens

674
00:33:29,591 --> 00:33:31,423
from the point of view of
a fly

675
00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:32,712
it changes
entire context

676
00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:34,297
about what
means from this film.

677
00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:36,758
I didn't even go
to hit the fly.

678
00:33:36,932 --> 00:33:40,141
I hope they watch.
They will see.

679
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:43,769
They will see and they will see it
know and they will say

680
00:33:43,939 --> 00:33:47,353
"Why, he doesn't want to
even harm the flies."

681
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:50,064
I think voyeurism
actually has rewards  in the bathroom.

682
00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:51,899
This is the way to set the Hitchcock
bomb under the table

683
00:33:51,905 --> 00:33:55,319
which is something he likes to do to create dramatic irony.

684
00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:57,658
Hello?

685
00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,080


686
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,416
I think at this point,
we start asking

687
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:49,188
what happened on his head
and what will happen

688
00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:51,829
because of this display
on his face.

689
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,127
This is very interesting,
as an actor, what he plays.

690
00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:57,385
He plays, "Oh, God, don't let my mother
kill this girl."

691
00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:01,347
Norman Bates is presented
in all this small

692
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:04,805
You know, a packed moment
throughout the film

693
00:35:04,978 --> 00:35:07,058
and in the same way as that
the murder was presented

694
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:10,064
encapsulated
moment image

695
00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:12,020
and composition
is cut together.

696
00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:16,400
So, I think it's the
th... the film

697
00:35:16,406 --> 00:35:19,319
it's about
fragmentation.

698
00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:21,363
That is fragmentation.

699
00:35:24,331 --> 00:35:26,698
Norman goes
to get home.

700
00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:29,041
This is very important
that the audience

701
00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:31,161
see him go

702
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,497
because he reacted
to the third character

703
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:36,715
what we think
is at home

704
00:35:36,885 --> 00:35:39,502
mother, but that
was really in his mind.

705
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:43,923
He goes to the stairs
and he looks up and he looks like

706
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:47,176
she is sad because she realizes mother
is not in the house upstairs.

707
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:49,220
Then he goes and flops
into the kitchen

708
00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:51,810
like sad
little school boy.

709
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:55,897
Then he sat there like, "Oh mice,
I can't eat dinner with

710
00:35:56,071 --> 00:35:57,812
the woman I want
for dinner together."

711
00:35:58,031 --> 00:36:00,899
I imagine he must have done it a lot
when mother was still alive.

712
00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:02,511
That he must have yelled at him
and he will just leave  in the kitchen when he can't
get what he wants

713
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:04,472
when he scolded him
for anything he didn't

714
00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:06,863
live
up to the standard.

715
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,373
There is a lot that can be discussed
Ms. Hitchcock.

716
00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:11,829


717
00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:24,096
Are you sure he didn't come here to see you  to catch Alex who is rich
Sebastian for a husband?

718
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:27,429
Now, shaved beforehand
your father comes home.

719
00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:29,973
Gentlemen don't really try
to kill my son, right?

720
00:36:30,146 --> 00:36:32,854
When you talk about what is sacred in America  people talk about mom
and apple pie.

721
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:38,569
Mother is good,
we love mom.

722
00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:41,905
We are mothers.
We're okay.

723
00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,742
On the other hand, there is
something else happening

724
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:48,404
in the 1950s Americans
culture and society

725
00:36:48,415 --> 00:36:52,034
where is mom

726
00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:55,962
also suspected.

727
00:36:55,964 --> 00:36:58,206
There are serious
social panic in America

728
00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:02,548
about
juvenile delinquency.

729
00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:05,342
One thing is this
social panic produces

730
00:37:05,515 --> 00:37:07,472
is this fear
that mother will leave

731
00:37:07,475 --> 00:37:10,309


732
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:12,811


733
00:37:12,981 --> 00:37:16,315
to take refuge
and spoil children

734
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:20,444
maybe America alone,
to death.

735
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,487
All sitcoms

736
00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:24,277
"Father knows the best"

737
00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:25,650
"Ozzie and Harriett"

738
00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:27,568
where mom
never does anything.

739
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:30,196
Everything he did
be careful  home
and children.

740
00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:32,823
Practical lunch and ready
David must dress.

741
00:37:33,001 --> 00:37:35,288
Dress up?
Do you mean to dress?

742
00:37:35,462 --> 00:37:37,704
Alright.
You want to look beautiful
when Nancy arrived here.

743
00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:39,817
Director who exposes

744
00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:42,800
the horrors of Americans
family in the 50s

745
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:46,883
without making horror
the film is Douglas Sirk.

746
00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:50,265
You know, Kay,
I like Ron.

747
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:53,849
You love him so much
Are you willing to destroy all of our lives?

748
00:37:53,855 --> 00:37:56,136
You can't really think that.

749
00:37:56,191 --> 00:37:57,932


750
00:37:57,942 --> 00:38:00,229
What else can I think about?

751
00:38:00,236 --> 00:38:04,230
In Sirk, that's all
family development.

752
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:07,616
Not until "Psycho,"
though, where is mom

753
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:09,702
literally is a monster

754
00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,696
when you see it
in the end.

755
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:14,323
I think my mother
scared me

756
00:38:14,501 --> 00:38:16,242
when I
was three months old.

757
00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:20,087
You see,
He said, "Boo!"

758
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,672
I don't know
how many times in "Psycho"

759
00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:25,676
do people
talk about mom.

760
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,757
Oh, we can see
with each other.

761
00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:29,630
We can even have dinner.

762
00:38:29,849 --> 00:38:31,636
But politely.

763
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,802
In my house, with my mother's house
picture on the fireplace shelf

764
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:36,805
and my sister helped me
grilled big steak for three people.

765
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:40,603
And after steak,
do we send sisters

766
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,379
to the cinema, turn mama
picture to the wall?

767
00:38:42,403 --> 00:38:43,403
Sam!

768
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:45,278
Patricia Hitchcock

769
00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:48,365
talking about, he
offered him a sedative.

770
00:38:48,368 --> 00:38:49,700
Do you have
some aspirin?

771
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:51,701
I have something,
is not aspirin.

772
00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:54,158
My mother's doctor gave them to me
my wedding day.

773
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:57,078
Teddy is very angry when he finds out
I have taken sedatives.

774
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,536
A... what are the calls?

775
00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:04,248
Teddy calls me.
My mother called
to see if Teddy called.

776
00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:07,634
Even in the office,
influence

777
00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,345
negative influences
mothers

778
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:13,557
and this is in women,
not in men.

779
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,519
So, the fact is that
Ms. Norman Bates

780
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:19,522
we realized finally that
was Norman Bates himself

781
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:21,771
maybe, in the unconscious
level, the audience says

782
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:24,728
"A-ha! I know that!

783
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:26,478
" Mother will kill us!

784
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,697
Mother will be like that
all of us die! "

785
00:39:47,677 --> 00:39:50,294
Okay, once again
to the bridge.

786
00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:53,638
Return to primal
when.

787
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:59,098
Marion did it
accounting here

788
00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:01,889
find out how much
he spent in the car.

789
00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:06,402
He was making
decision to

790
00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:07,774
return the money.  A little good
useful exposition.

791
00:40:07,947 --> 00:40:10,655
I always
write down my math.

792
00:40:10,867 --> 00:40:13,075
This is fascinating, you know.

793
00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:15,369
This is still an old movie,
Let's face it

794
00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:17,112
He threw the paper
in the toilet toilet

795
00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:23,661
and then, to close it,
He watered it.

796
00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,663
Right from the start
You know you are in a new territory.

797
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,383
In 1960, there was no the previous toilet
appears.

798
00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:33,675
The toilet flushing
is a clear indication

799
00:40:33,681 --> 00:40:36,094


800
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:39,389
upcoming scenes will occur
to solve one or two taboos.

801
00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:42,805
The details are important, you know,
in the tension building.

802
00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:45,224
You know that all the details
will increase  for something
is far more monumental  from the simplicity of
from these photos.

803
00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:47,063
Hitchcock
is a Victoria.

804
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:48,686
Victoria
thinks it's bright

805
00:40:50,156 --> 00:40:52,068
white ceramic bathroom
sanitary ware.

806
00:40:52,075 --> 00:40:55,113
That's the term
they use.

807
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:58,203
The bathroom in his house
is a bright white tile.

808
00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:00,914
He thinks that is attacking
it's cool and
subversive things to do.

809
00:41:00,917 --> 00:41:05,207
He did it in silent films,
He did it on "Spellbound."

810
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:09,465
But showing that brightness, it's
a way to say

811
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:12,881
Look at how I contaminate chastity
bathroom.

812
00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:17,389


813
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,389


814
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,851


815
00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:26,723
And I did it
almost without blood.

816
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:30,394
By chance, this scene
is very influential

817
00:41:30,405 --> 00:41:32,897
in a scene in
"Conversation"

818
00:41:33,074 --> 00:41:35,487
which I edited
was back in 1973.

819
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,359
A killer
has been done  and Gene Hackman
goes inside

820
00:41:37,578 --> 00:41:40,286
bathroom
hotel room

821
00:41:40,456 --> 00:41:42,243
but the room
is really clean.

822
00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:44,625
And he pulled the
curtain apart

823
00:41:44,794 --> 00:41:47,502
same as in "Psycho"
mother

824
00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:49,914
pulling the curtain apart
but it's empty.

825
00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:53,084
He goes to the tub drain
and runs his fingers  around the drain to be seen
if there is a sign

826
00:41:53,261 --> 00:41:55,753
signs of blood,
and nothing.

827
00:41:55,972 --> 00:41:58,760
He goes to the toilet
to shake the handle

828
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:02,051
and toilet
suddenly backs up.

829
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,554
So that's kind of
from i... inverse version

830
00:42:05,565 --> 00:42:08,228


831
00:42:08,401 --> 00:42:11,394


832
00:42:11,404 --> 00:42:13,862
from the "Psycho" scene.

833
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:16,824
Toilet and flushing
toilet

834
00:42:16,993 --> 00:42:20,532
bathroom curtains, sewers, all
of these things

835
00:42:20,705 --> 00:42:24,039
definitely printed
to us with "Psycho."

836
00:42:24,250 --> 00:42:26,492
Now, one of them is the most beautiful  famous
leading woman in 1960

837
00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:29,461
just stripped before us
and stepped into the bathroom.

838
00:42:29,464 --> 00:42:33,208
It's like, "Damn,
where do we go now?"

839
00:42:33,426 --> 00:42:35,713
Man, that's definitely
crazy madness for 1960.

840
00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:38,261
I don't even understand.

841
00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:39,675
Hitchcock knows that

842
00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:40,763
America
curious man

843
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,637
about Janet Leigh.

844
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,551
And that's the idea
has him in the bathroom

845
00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:48,222
in a position that seems
very suggestive, is a big problem.

846
00:42:48,441 --> 00:42:52,606
Seeing his full body
behind the curtain

847
00:42:52,779 --> 00:42:56,614
it's brilliant
because it's transparent.

848
00:42:56,783 --> 00:42:59,241


849
00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:01,322
Not transparent  it's not opaque,
but translucent

850
00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:03,954
enough to see it
and aroused us

851
00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:07,082
but not enough to really
become a graphic yet.

852
00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:10,578
The whole theory is
You must find

853
00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:12,997
sex in that woman

854
00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:14,999
and don't have it ..

855
00:43:15,218 --> 00:43:16,218
... stuck in his body
like a label, you know.

856
00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:21,472
And, uh, there's nothing else to look for  nothing was found.

857
00:43:23,226 --> 00:43:25,013
Do we know anyone
take a shower before that happens...

858
00:43:25,228 --> 00:43:26,344
Uh, I mean,
I don't act like that.

859
00:43:29,398 --> 00:43:31,685
I didn't change
bathing... like that.

860
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:33,354
I run it and then enter it
when I know it's safe.

861
00:43:33,528 --> 00:43:37,693
And see that almost
sexual expression on his face.

862
00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:41,279
He is bombarded,
and it cleanses.

863
00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:45,871


864
00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:49,166


865
00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:53,082
It's warm and he's happy and he's
like, decided.

866
00:43:53,256 --> 00:43:56,215
Natural sounds like putting you
in perspective

867
00:43:56,217 --> 00:43:59,381
You know, we all become Janet Leigh,
but not attractive.

868
00:43:59,554 --> 00:44:01,448
Through other films
such as "Rear Window" and "Birds"

869
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:04,385
he knows that lack of music can be as effective as music.

870
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,987
I think there is almost
no moment

871
00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:29,748
when we see Marion
with a sincere smile.

872
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:33,831
There are almost no moments, where
he is allowed to feel  it's good about
what life is like.

873
00:44:33,838 --> 00:44:36,501
She's happy
for the first time.

874
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,212
We will enter a scene
which is on one side

875
00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:41,714
is, um, enough to free
for characters

876
00:44:41,888 --> 00:44:44,380
but at the same time,
is very clear  what we watched
was the release of Hitchcock

877
00:44:44,557 --> 00:44:46,514


878
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:49,677


879
00:44:49,854 --> 00:44:51,220
own property
desire pressed

880
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:53,684
finally written
large on the screen.

881
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:56,726
Hitchcock
looks at the world

882
00:44:56,736 --> 00:44:58,978
as a very imperfect
moral engine.

883
00:44:59,155 --> 00:45:02,990
And he always has this...

884
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:06,243
... the Bible, almost, calamity
and punishment.

885
00:45:06,412 --> 00:45:09,621
You know, it happened to
those who were tangled

886
00:45:09,624 --> 00:45:12,287
with sin
in the normal way.

887
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:14,626
Even most
un-Hitchcockian films

888
00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:16,627
which is
"Mr. and Mrs. Smith"

889
00:45:16,797 --> 00:45:20,666
what I like,
punishes banality.

890
00:45:20,676 --> 00:45:24,260
He made a moral decision to take back the money, and enter it  You know, and suffer anything
punishment will come towards him.

891
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:27,423
I stepped into private
trapping back there

892
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,887
and... I want to go back
and try to withdraw from it...

893
00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:34,055
... before it's too late
for me too.

894
00:45:36,776 --> 00:45:38,358


895
00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:39,693
This is very important.

896
00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,778
Very important
narrative because

897
00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:45,066
it doesn't come, uh,
in the middle of theft  or in the middle of
robbery

898
00:45:45,076 --> 00:45:47,033
or when he fled
with money on the road.

899
00:45:47,203 --> 00:45:50,742
And it turns out, bang,
that means nothing  little difference because the universe
doesn't care.

900
00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:53,328
I think, uh, that, um

901
00:45:53,501 --> 00:45:56,460
the true sign
Catholic

902
00:45:56,462 --> 00:45:59,125
and... and his feelings
apocalypse

903
00:45:59,298 --> 00:46:00,914
about that sin
can't be cleaned

904
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:02,840
literally, with water.

905
00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:05,798
You know,
it can't be cleaned

906
00:46:05,972 --> 00:46:07,634
except with blood and violence and
pay the price.

907
00:46:07,848 --> 00:46:09,760
He was sentenced to
for the worst crime

908
00:46:09,934 --> 00:46:13,803
that arouses sexual arousal
Norman Bates.

909
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,396
You know, you get this
filter again and again.

910
00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:20,605


911
00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:22,603


912
00:46:22,822 --> 00:46:25,439
I mean, think of
"Foreigners on the train"

913
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:28,984
where is Robert Walker, you know,
strangling this poor girl.

914
00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:31,783
Again, what happened
he strangled him?

915
00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:33,325
Because
she's a loose woman

916
00:46:33,499 --> 00:46:36,412
who's in
Farley Granger's Way...

917
00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:39,043
I... I mean, that's a shadow of "Psycho."

918
00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:43,172
That's the point of view
bathroom

919
00:46:43,342 --> 00:46:44,753
which places us,
audience

920
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,797
as if we were in the bathroom with him.

921
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:50,006
It makes us feel fair
is just as vulnerable as him.

922
00:46:50,182 --> 00:46:53,425
It sprayed on us and it created a sonic curtain.

923
00:46:53,436 --> 00:46:56,429
He can't hear it
arrival.

924
00:46:56,439 --> 00:46:59,102
Wow, I'm sorry I didn't hear you
in all this rain.

925
00:46:59,108 --> 00:47:03,443
And that's why the shot
is bad news.

926
00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:06,025
You know, shot
changes in the level of their symmetry

927
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,560
during the course
of the sequence.

928
00:47:07,616 --> 00:47:09,699
That was the initial order

929
00:47:09,702 --> 00:47:12,991
and then strangely, it will be echoed
by the eyes, and the sewer

930
00:47:12,997 --> 00:47:15,455
and Norman Bates & apos;
peek through his office

931
00:47:15,624 --> 00:47:19,789
and those things start
to rhyming after a while in a great way.

932
00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:21,502
How do you show
a camera on the shower head

933
00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:23,337
without lenses
sprayed?

934
00:47:23,341 --> 00:47:25,549
Move the camera
quite backwards

935
00:47:25,718 --> 00:47:28,301
plug several holes
so that the spray spurts out.

936
00:47:28,471 --> 00:47:30,212
Very simple
and elegant solution.

937
00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:35,517
There is nothing unusual about going back and forth here.

938
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:38,895
It's rather relaxed
four and a half seconds

939
00:47:39,065 --> 00:47:41,478
per piece on average.

940
00:47:41,484 --> 00:47:45,194
So it's quiet
before the storm, say.

941
00:47:45,404 --> 00:47:48,192
And now here's what I call weird pieces  what I call
wet haircut

942
00:47:48,366 --> 00:47:50,278


943
00:47:50,451 --> 00:47:53,239
where he
washed himself

944
00:47:53,412 --> 00:47:54,948
with his head
tilted back

945
00:47:55,122 --> 00:47:56,954
then
suddenly cuts

946
00:47:56,957 --> 00:47:59,950
same
kind of angle

947
00:48:00,127 --> 00:48:04,792
really leaps, except now
Her hair is really wet.

948
00:48:04,965 --> 00:48:08,629
This will give a lie to someone who says

949
00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,923
this scene
shot right

950
00:48:11,097 --> 00:48:12,633
as a storyboard
is done

951
00:48:12,807 --> 00:48:15,470
because you never
will storyboard

952
00:48:15,643 --> 00:48:16,929
such a moment.

953
00:48:17,103 --> 00:48:18,639
You think you will do it
Take care of him

954
00:48:18,854 --> 00:48:20,891
through the whole
process in real time  but it was cut
jumped forward.

955
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:23,641
Feel very courageous and confident.

956
00:48:23,818 --> 00:48:28,279
Now, we... we cut
into the shower

957
00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:31,030
but that is the side corner
in the shower

958
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,760
not like this
subjective point of view.

959
00:48:32,952 --> 00:48:36,616


960
00:48:36,789 --> 00:48:39,327
When we searched for
to him, he faced left to right  far from the bathroom.

961
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:40,832
And when we
cut it back to it

962
00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:44,206
we came
to the other side of the stageline.

963
00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:47,206
What's behind it
now is a shower curtain

964
00:48:47,383 --> 00:48:50,296
not the wall.

965
00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:51,592
And now there are other pieces

966
00:48:53,055 --> 00:48:54,341
again that's the same
awkward jump pieces.

967
00:48:54,348 --> 00:48:57,182
Objectively, there will be
there is no reason to do that.

968
00:48:57,351 --> 00:49:00,935
But it's annoying
because

969
00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:03,476
there is a large blank
space, which itself is disturbing.

970
00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:08,314
What will be filled
empty space?

971
00:49:08,487 --> 00:49:11,821
The audience starts glancing at
to the negative space

972
00:49:11,991 --> 00:49:15,325
and feel like, "Why did I see it here?"

973
00:49:15,536 --> 00:49:18,370
The door opens,
you see the shadow

974
00:49:18,539 --> 00:49:21,202
and then Norman
number.

975
00:49:21,417 --> 00:49:22,828
And that
terror is increasing

976
00:49:23,043 --> 00:49:24,875


977
00:49:24,879 --> 00:49:25,619
where do you say
for yourself

978
00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:27,287
"My God.
My God."

979
00:49:27,465 --> 00:49:32,051
And that's the difference between
between tension and surprise.

980
00:49:32,261 --> 00:49:36,050
The idea of a threat
in a shadow figure.

981
00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:38,719
I thought it was
Hitchcock's fear.

982
00:49:38,893 --> 00:49:41,055
Who threatens
numbers

983
00:49:41,228 --> 00:49:44,346
in A... Alfred Hitchcock
lives alone?

984
00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:48,020
When he gets to "Psycho," the person is released.

985
00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:51,770
Here you see, eh,
Margo Epper

986
00:49:51,947 --> 00:49:54,940
reconnaissance woman,
is coming in the direction.

987
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:57,613
How do you not disclose it
who is it?

988
00:49:57,786 --> 00:50:01,780
I have taken rap for that
order of 20 years now

989
00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:05,041
but it's not me
behind the curtain.

990
00:50:05,044 --> 00:50:08,583
I was in New York that day
practicing Broadway shows.

991
00:50:08,756 --> 00:50:10,088
Every time
they keep shooting it

992
00:50:10,257 --> 00:50:12,044
you continue to see
the face of a stunt woman.

993
00:50:12,218 --> 00:50:13,959
One of the makeup
men decide

994
00:50:13,969 --> 00:50:15,255
what if we blacken his face?

995
00:50:15,429 --> 00:50:17,295
So they... they tried
several times

996
00:50:17,306 --> 00:50:19,263
and they are darker
and darker and darker

997
00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:21,883
until they... they
achieve that effect.

998
00:50:22,061 --> 00:50:24,223
I talked to Janet Leigh
about what she was thinking  he looks at him,
and, and he clearly

999
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:27,394
see Norman
coming to him

1000
00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:30,688
and that's what happened
he played.

1001
00:50:30,861 --> 00:50:32,318
So the reality is
for him

1002
00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,404
I will die
this way by this person

1003
00:50:34,573 --> 00:50:37,657
who tried
to be friends with me

1004
00:50:37,826 --> 00:50:39,112
and I tried
to be polite to.

1005
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,202
You are very good.

1006
00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:42,620
This is all for you.
I'm not hungry, please.

1007
00:50:44,583 --> 00:50:47,951
It really lends
extra air to horror

1008
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:50,662
and pathos
for now.

1009
00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:53,547


1010
00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:55,800
And the wallpaper is
in the background

1011
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:58,251
"The Shining," so many horror
films trying to have likes

1012
00:50:58,305 --> 00:51:01,048
The perfect Hitchcock,
Bates Motel wallpaper.

1013
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:03,391
This flower pattern
is juxtaposed with this

1014
00:51:03,394 --> 00:51:06,478
black silhouette of
knife and mother's hair

1015
00:51:06,647 --> 00:51:08,309
it's really,
is very scary.

1016
00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:09,977
The shape always
torments me a little.

1017
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:12,858
It's almost like a strange
mushroom shaped head.

1018
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:14,985
I don't know, it's a bit
to me, for some reason.

1019
00:51:14,989 --> 00:51:19,108
I, I always hope that this shot
looks a little scary.

1020
00:51:19,285 --> 00:51:23,370
When my first grandfather
saw the first rough piece of "Psycho"

1021
00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:24,452
um, he didn't like it at all  He will only do it
reduce it to one hour

1022
00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:26,100
and make it a part of
of TV shows.

1023
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,367


1024
00:51:28,544 --> 00:51:30,877
Bernard Herrmann is convinced
he is to create the most like

1025
00:51:31,046 --> 00:51:34,790
fearful chord music is famous in... in
history of horror cinema.

1026
00:51:34,967 --> 00:51:37,380
It's embedded in pop
culture, to the place...

1027
00:51:39,054 --> 00:51:40,511
That, that,
is transcendent.

1028
00:51:40,514 --> 00:51:43,006
My seven-year-old daughter
knows that

1029
00:51:43,225 --> 00:51:44,785
but he doesn't know
from what he came from.

1030
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:47,289
But you know,
he made that joke.

1031
00:51:48,689 --> 00:51:50,225
Like, I don't know
where he got it.

1032
00:51:50,399 --> 00:51:52,127
- That's amazing.
- He doesn't know it's from "Psycho."

1033
00:51:52,151 --> 00:51:55,019
It's like evolution
we just got born to know

1034
00:51:55,029 --> 00:51:58,147
bathing scene
from "Psycho."

1035
00:51:58,324 --> 00:52:00,190
I want a tattoo  and I think,
it must be one sign of that

1036
00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:02,905
by Bernard Herrmann

1037
00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:04,694
the most amazing cues ever made
in cinematic history.

1038
00:52:04,705 --> 00:52:09,075
This is very little
must be done in harmony.

1039
00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:12,122


1040
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:16,089
It's just
mere terror.

1041
00:52:16,091 --> 00:52:18,959
The way the music is used is
film to scare people  changed after "Psycho."

1042
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,752
If you want to make it
something is scary

1043
00:52:20,763 --> 00:52:22,755
You are entered in the string,
and you are like...

1044
00:52:22,765 --> 00:52:24,367
If you are slow
it goes down you get...

1045
00:52:25,434 --> 00:52:26,536
What I really like
about Herrmann

1046
00:52:29,146 --> 00:52:32,059
the way he realized
within the boundary

1047
00:52:32,232 --> 00:52:36,317
there are actually more

1048
00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:38,690
strong statements
must be made.

1049
00:52:38,864 --> 00:52:41,106
He did "The Day
Earth Still Standing"

1050
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,445
and he wrote it for seven Theremins
and only copper horns.

1051
00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:46,911
Herrmann writes,
"Living dolls"

1052
00:53:00,219 --> 00:53:02,211
which I think is one
of the best score

1053
00:53:02,429 --> 00:53:03,949
they have
"Twilight Zone."

1054
00:53:04,056 --> 00:53:06,139
It's like
bass clarinet

1055
00:53:06,141 --> 00:53:09,475


1056
00:53:09,478 --> 00:53:11,435
or maybe
a contra bassoon

1057
00:53:11,647 --> 00:53:14,515
a glockenspiel
and kecapi.

1058
00:53:14,525 --> 00:53:16,437
He must have been an experiment.

1059
00:53:16,652 --> 00:53:19,144
He taught me
what you can do

1060
00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:21,362
anything anywhere,
if it works.

1061
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:23,940
What I think too
is really genius  the bathing scene is that the way
Herrmann sees it.

1062
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:27,778
Uh, the spot decides
when you start the signal

1063
00:53:27,788 --> 00:53:30,906
when you end the signal.

1064
00:53:31,083 --> 00:53:32,995
This starts with...
The toilet is flushed.

1065
00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:36,836
He steps
into the bathroom

1066
00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:38,046
there is no music
at all.

1067
00:53:38,257 --> 00:53:40,965
This composer does not prepare us for the onslaught  it's about
happening.

1068
00:53:41,135 --> 00:53:43,593
When Janet Leigh goes to the bathroom  and he pulled
curtain closed

1069
00:53:43,762 --> 00:53:45,503
You really can
listen to the sound

1070
00:53:45,681 --> 00:53:47,263


1071
00:53:47,433 --> 00:53:50,141


1072
00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:52,267


1073
00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:54,304
from the ring in the
bar and it goes

1074
00:53:55,607 --> 00:53:56,814
You see the villain
coming too

1075
00:53:56,984 --> 00:53:58,896
there is no music,
no music at all.

1076
00:53:59,111 --> 00:54:02,024
The curtain will be knocked out,
we get the first sting...

1077
00:54:05,701 --> 00:54:09,695
This... this is a rush
Janet Leigh's heartbeat.

1078
00:54:09,705 --> 00:54:12,948
From the moment we,
as spectators, are really aware of

1079
00:54:13,125 --> 00:54:16,835
"Okay, this girl is having a
brutally slaughtered here"

1080
00:54:16,837 --> 00:54:19,545
and we see this,
and the music goes...

1081
00:54:25,304 --> 00:54:27,170
He fell to the floor  heart rate slows down
because he is dying.

1082
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,306
Then,
in his last breath

1083
00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:33,059
the music
basically left it

1084
00:54:33,228 --> 00:54:36,221
and all we have is the sound of the
curtain falling

1085
00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,769
and his head
hits to the ground.

1086
00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,649
How genius is that?

1087
00:54:40,861 --> 00:54:43,103
That's Herrmann.
That's not Hitch.

1088
00:54:43,322 --> 00:54:46,315
That's Bernie.

1089
00:54:46,325 --> 00:54:47,361


1090
00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:49,734
We use the original
score

1091
00:54:49,912 --> 00:54:51,403
um, belongs to Bernard Herrmann
original score

1092
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:53,071
for our temp music,
of course.

1093
00:54:53,248 --> 00:54:55,205
When we are editing a film

1094
00:54:55,209 --> 00:54:57,041
and then Danny came
and re-recorded  and that is
very beautiful.

1095
00:54:57,211 --> 00:54:59,669
It's a perfect score.

1096
00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:02,080
When I was given the job,
I mean

1097
00:55:02,257 --> 00:55:04,089
it's really
a holy book for me.

1098
00:55:04,092 --> 00:55:06,926
There is one tap in the meeting with
several manufacturers

1099
00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:11,055
like, maybe because the color is colored,
we have to do it

1100
00:55:11,225 --> 00:55:14,389
uh, brass and woodwinds
and percussion and do it

1101
00:55:14,394 --> 00:55:16,477
with a full orchestra,
I like

1102
00:55:16,688 --> 00:55:17,916
"No no no no,
no, no, no, no, no.

1103
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:19,852
I beg you.
I beg you.
Don't make me do that."

1104
00:55:20,067 --> 00:55:23,651
I have a vision
of being very angry

1105
00:55:23,654 --> 00:55:27,614


1106
00:55:27,783 --> 00:55:28,944
Bernard Herrmann

1107
00:55:29,117 --> 00:55:31,359
The ghost gets inside me
space and I'll wake up

1108
00:55:31,537 --> 00:55:32,994
in the middle of the night
and he will go there

1109
00:55:32,996 --> 00:55:34,828
"You little bastard, what have you done?"

1110
00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:39,076
Blades raised

1111
00:55:39,086 --> 00:55:42,955
and now,
murder scene begins

1112
00:55:42,965 --> 00:55:44,831
and the speed
from cutting

1113
00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:46,916
that happened
dramatically shrank.

1114
00:55:46,927 --> 00:55:49,465
And that's it,
is beautiful

1115
00:55:49,638 --> 00:55:51,880
laxatives,
... extraordinarily savage...

1116
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:57,678
... intimate and fair
wrong on many levels.

1117
00:55:57,688 --> 00:55:59,930
That... it looks awful.
That's... that...

1118
00:56:03,527 --> 00:56:07,191
Wow.
Wow.
Friend, oh, man.

1119
00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:09,651
And he has the way to get
out and reach you

1120
00:56:09,825 --> 00:56:12,158
by throat
and say, "Look! Look!

1121
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,696
You will see this."

1122
00:56:13,871 --> 00:56:17,330
That's perfect,
stainless steel trap.

1123
00:56:17,499 --> 00:56:21,539
You can't run away from it,
it is, uh, causing damage

1124
00:56:21,753 --> 00:56:23,745
but at the same time,
you know

1125
00:56:23,922 --> 00:56:25,458
You are in the hands of a master.

1126
00:56:25,632 --> 00:56:27,669
There is nothing
to do but send.

1127
00:56:27,843 --> 00:56:31,007
The bathing scene "Psycho" is
cutting very similar... action scenes.

1128
00:56:31,013 --> 00:56:32,379
George Tomasini
is a teacher.

1129
00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:34,130
What did he do with
the bathing scene changed

1130
00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:35,598
cinema language.

1131
00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,680
Uh, the editor suddenly became
far more important  puzzle pieces.

1132
00:56:38,687 --> 00:56:39,687
You have to think about cutting  Because the wound will take you
four minutes to make it

1133
00:56:39,855 --> 00:56:41,972
and splice
and check.

1134
00:56:41,982 --> 00:56:43,751
And now, you can make it
cut every 12 seconds or something.

1135
00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:45,482
Planning, consideration,
thoughts that go away

1136
00:56:45,652 --> 00:56:48,986


1137
00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:52,024


1138
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,318
in designing some of these films
is surprising.

1139
00:56:55,495 --> 00:56:59,364
The camera image was 14 years old
someone got the idea

1140
00:56:59,374 --> 00:57:01,457
You can
make a cut.

1141
00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:03,209
Because of that violence
what happened

1142
00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:06,667
You are viewing
images, visual fields

1143
00:57:06,882 --> 00:57:10,091
it's very detailed and full of motion  and then, instantaneously

1144
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,172
it was deleted and replaced
with another image.

1145
00:57:12,346 --> 00:57:14,679
In a sense, the audience
must be like that

1146
00:57:14,681 --> 00:57:17,515
crashing into the windshield
from this experience.

1147
00:57:17,726 --> 00:57:19,888
Hitchcock and Tomasini
know exactly

1148
00:57:20,062 --> 00:57:22,429
where the audience
is looking for.

1149
00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:23,680
They finally work
disorientation

1150
00:57:23,857 --> 00:57:27,191
drawing you into Marion's understanding
confusion and terror.

1151
00:57:27,361 --> 00:57:31,480
Every piece
Tomasini is you...

1152
00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:34,278
When you are caught
for what you see

1153
00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:36,512


1154
00:57:36,536 --> 00:57:39,700
in the new shot, he has already been cut into another shot.

1155
00:57:39,873 --> 00:57:42,661
This is a kaleidoscope
from these falling pictures

1156
00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:47,044
to your skull, but it's very planned,
and it feels like that.

1157
00:57:47,047 --> 00:57:49,630
These orders and chaos come
crashing into each other.

1158
00:57:49,633 --> 00:57:53,252
- This is a magic action.
Truly.
- Yes

1159
00:57:53,428 --> 00:57:55,545
Because people come out
feeling cinema

1160
00:57:55,722 --> 00:57:58,760
as they have seen, like being surprised,
you know, beyond belief

1161
00:57:58,934 --> 00:58:02,098
Because there is nothing like that
in the cinema before that.

1162
00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:03,824
But they haven't
actually seen things

1163
00:58:03,981 --> 00:58:06,268
what they thought they saw.
That's an amazing thing.

1164
00:58:11,071 --> 00:58:14,781
Use of sound
effect, um, that... is

1165
00:58:14,783 --> 00:58:16,615
I think, I think
is a big contributor

1166
00:58:16,785 --> 00:58:18,321
for violence
from the scene.

1167
00:58:18,537 --> 00:58:20,494
The sound of stab
especially.

1168
00:58:20,664 --> 00:58:24,829
How do you come
with voice

1169
00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:27,543
What happens when a butcher
knives attacks meat?

1170
00:58:27,546 --> 00:58:30,459
The soundman
appears with an idea

1171
00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:33,253
what about the knife
stabbing the melon?

1172
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:41,140
So, know Hitchcock,
You have to bring

1173
00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:45,474
lots of melons and set them
they are on a large table.

1174
00:58:45,647 --> 00:58:48,230
There will be Crenshaw
melons, and you know

1175
00:58:48,233 --> 00:58:49,644
all kinds of melons
that you can imagine

1176
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:50,892
very,
very different sizes.

1177
00:58:50,902 --> 00:58:52,438
So I think
they have

1178
00:58:52,612 --> 00:58:55,025
two dozen
and several reserves.

1179
00:58:57,743 --> 00:58:59,780
So, there is
the supporting human  piercing melons,
melons, melons, melons.

1180
00:58:59,786 --> 00:59:02,369
Next melon,
melon, melon.

1181
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,531
And in the end
Hitchcock knows that one

1182
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:06,578
the most audible
like, muscle and

1183
00:59:06,752 --> 00:59:08,334


1184
00:59:08,503 --> 00:59:10,836
sounds like he
thought it should be heard.

1185
00:59:11,006 --> 00:59:13,464
So, at that time
via demonstration

1186
00:59:13,675 --> 00:59:15,132
all of these are different
melons

1187
00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:16,584
everything he said was...

1188
00:59:18,722 --> 00:59:20,463
"... Casaba."

1189
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,784
Only that they
need to know.

1190
00:59:38,617 --> 00:59:42,736
I think the whole key to the sound
from melon Casaba

1191
00:59:42,913 --> 00:59:45,075
is that inner in
is very small in part

1192
00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:47,498
and there is a very thick
fruit layer

1193
00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:49,203
you have
for stabbing.

1194
00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:50,584
- This is very dense.
- thick?

1195
00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:53,087
Not empty, like many
from other melons

1196
00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:54,547
sounds a
is a little hollow.

1197
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:56,541
And I'm sure,
with eyes closed  Hitchcock might have heard that.

1198
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:58,508
In my ear, Casaba
melon sounds more like dry

1199
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,259
bone pricking, as opposed to
being wet, sticky sticky.

1200
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:05,971


1201
01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:07,430
Starchiness
and its thickness

1202
01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,641
maybe giving you,
more than that innards

1203
01:00:09,815 --> 01:00:10,976
crispness
or...

1204
01:00:10,982 --> 01:00:13,224
- Viscera.
- Viscera.

1205
01:00:13,401 --> 01:00:16,565
Hitchcock also has it
bring sirloin

1206
01:00:16,571 --> 01:00:20,906
very big
sirloin thing.

1207
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:23,489
I don't eat meat,
and so I'm almost nauseous

1208
01:00:23,703 --> 01:00:25,945
told you this, but,
uh, in any case

1209
01:00:26,164 --> 01:00:27,951
Hitchcock thinks it will happen
very good idea.

1210
01:00:27,958 --> 01:00:30,666
And they did it,
actually, stabbing

1211
01:00:30,836 --> 01:00:33,874
big, big,
big slice of steak.

1212
01:00:34,047 --> 01:00:36,960
And the sound
is interspersed with melons.

1213
01:00:46,893 --> 01:00:48,259
And the sound manager
took it home and had it

1214
01:00:48,270 --> 01:00:49,886
for dinner that night.

1215
01:00:50,063 --> 01:00:52,305
The sound of stab
in "Psycho"

1216
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:54,690
not Hollywood
sound effects

1217
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:56,730
it's natural
sound effects

1218
01:00:56,903 --> 01:00:58,895
that made it
all the more terrible.

1219
01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:00,938
You can take
a combination like, arrow

1220
01:01:00,949 --> 01:01:03,657
literal arrow
or hitting ax  and you add it to the pipe
in the mud bushes  and you add it
sort of like, uh, like a skin tear

1221
01:01:03,827 --> 01:01:07,241
and you can make it
sound design puncture

1222
01:01:07,247 --> 01:01:10,160
it will
feel terrible.

1223
01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:12,742
Marion changed.

1224
01:01:12,919 --> 01:01:14,376
We have three close-ups  getting
gets tighter

1225
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,205
to that point now
we don't see anything

1226
01:01:18,341 --> 01:01:19,047
but the mouth is open.

1227
01:01:19,217 --> 01:01:20,879
Three quick pieces
that made me

1228
01:01:21,052 --> 01:01:23,339
happy to be an editor.

1229
01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:24,879
I have seen some Saul Bass & apos;
board and you will see

1230
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:26,722
cut one and cut three

1231
01:01:26,892 --> 01:01:28,758
but the idea of drawing the third
together

1232
01:01:28,935 --> 01:01:32,053
feels like something
, uh... uh,

1233
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,971
kind of fun
discovery

1234
01:01:33,982 --> 01:01:35,974


1235
01:01:36,151 --> 01:01:38,017


1236
01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:39,644


1237
01:01:39,821 --> 01:01:42,313
in feeling your way through things
in the cutting room.

1238
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:44,652
Hitchcock did it here
He is also in "The Birds"

1239
01:01:44,659 --> 01:01:46,616
to show something
is surprising.

1240
01:01:47,537 --> 01:01:49,620
Cutting axes

1241
01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:52,281
boom, boom, boom.

1242
01:01:52,292 --> 01:01:53,954
That's psychological
cutting.

1243
01:01:54,127 --> 01:01:55,709
People always think
that's... something Hitchcock

1244
01:01:55,712 --> 01:01:58,796
coming, but actually
is always traced back  to
original "Frankenstein"

1245
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:00,957
directed by
Pope James in 1931.

1246
01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:04,047
That way
the same effect because

1247
01:02:04,221 --> 01:02:05,962
they showed you
something very strange

1248
01:02:06,139 --> 01:02:07,859
something you have
never seen before.

1249
01:02:08,016 --> 01:02:09,452
People want to go to the movies
just to see how shocking it is.

1250
01:02:09,476 --> 01:02:13,641
There is something called an American
cut when you are editing, which is

1251
01:02:13,855 --> 01:02:16,375


1252
01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:19,688
the same as the jump jump becomes close-up
from the wide shot.

1253
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:21,297
And I know whenever I do it in an
movie when I work with

1254
01:02:21,321 --> 01:02:23,028
Sam Raimi, he
always likes, is tortured.

1255
01:02:23,031 --> 01:02:24,634
He's like, "Why did you do that stupid cut?"

1256
01:02:24,658 --> 01:02:26,510
And I always go, "This, uh, it's a piece of America."

1257
01:02:26,534 --> 01:02:29,402
And he always said, "It's more like a... Canadian cut."

1258
01:02:29,621 --> 01:02:31,738
Something is right
Visceral about deduction

1259
01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:35,037
from a wide shot
jumps in, close-up.

1260
01:02:35,043 --> 01:02:38,036
Now we have
lower angle

1261
01:02:38,046 --> 01:02:39,912
it's not that
subjective angle

1262
01:02:39,923 --> 01:02:42,461
This is not what
Marion saw  but it's maximized
for threats.

1263
01:02:42,634 --> 01:02:45,798
There are lots of defense shots
that make it look like

1264
01:02:45,971 --> 01:02:48,463
he tried
to fight him

1265
01:02:48,473 --> 01:02:50,009


1266
01:02:50,016 --> 01:02:51,496
which makes you feel
that you are there.

1267
01:02:52,852 --> 01:02:54,309
We already jumped
the stage line here

1268
01:02:54,479 --> 01:02:57,347
others
things that are confusing.

1269
01:02:57,524 --> 01:03:00,892
In violence and love,
is very interesting

1270
01:03:01,069 --> 01:03:04,187
it's actually good
to cross the stageline

1271
01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:07,857
because it gives you that
subjective feeling sort of

1272
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,608
d... dizzy delirium.

1273
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:14,238
You see the hands of Norman
with the knife coming towards the lateral

1274
01:03:14,416 --> 01:03:16,658
across and
breaks the line.

1275
01:03:16,668 --> 01:03:20,161
This is very good because it violates chastity.

1276
01:03:20,338 --> 01:03:22,375
The water flows
in the opposite direction

1277
01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:25,041
knife, so there are
all these big corners

1278
01:03:25,051 --> 01:03:27,589
it's again, like, German
expressionist cinema

1279
01:03:27,762 --> 01:03:29,424
The Hitchcock
has been affected

1280
01:03:29,597 --> 01:03:33,181
in the early 20s when he first started his career.

1281
01:03:33,351 --> 01:03:35,751
This overhead shot, it's like
The whole shot is out of focus.

1282
01:03:35,854 --> 01:03:37,595
And you know,
they use it.

1283
01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:40,731
I can imagine sitting with
executive studio now

1284
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,712
and they said, "Oh, you know,
You have this one shot

1285
01:03:42,736 --> 01:03:44,255
" It's very unfocused,
we really don't need to take

1286
01:03:44,279 --> 01:03:45,565
it was shot
edited. "

1287
01:03:45,739 --> 01:03:47,008
But thankfully
they left it

1288
01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:48,694
because it's like that
a great shot.

1289
01:03:48,908 --> 01:03:52,072
The knife has been
through frame

1290
01:03:52,245 --> 01:03:55,204
before we, the audience,
can actually lock into

1291
01:03:55,206 --> 01:03:56,788
what we see.

1292
01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:58,540
Our faces
Gravitates to Marion

1293
01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:01,748
and then to negative
space to see where the blades go?

1294
01:04:01,755 --> 01:04:04,589
They force the audience
to fill in the blanks.

1295
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:08,292
Right to the left
movement brings we

1296
01:04:08,303 --> 01:04:10,260
are right to cut and
is exactly where his face is

1297
01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:11,841
there is a knife.

1298
01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:13,714
The knife never works
relationship with

1299
01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:16,175
but in my mind
I saw him stab him.

1300
01:04:16,394 --> 01:04:17,851
This is crazy.

1301
01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:20,892
Hitchcock will go
in 360 degrees.

1302
01:04:21,066 --> 01:04:23,228
All of these things
You are not supposed to do it  in narrating stories,
he does to give you

1303
01:04:23,234 --> 01:04:25,772
this feeling
complete disorientation.

1304
01:04:25,945 --> 01:04:27,686
Every time we cut back
to the Norman form  we are punished again.

1305
01:04:29,783 --> 01:04:31,820
Back to Norman, but now
we are a little tighter.

1306
01:04:31,993 --> 01:04:34,076
Cut to Marion,
we are more strict.

1307
01:04:34,245 --> 01:04:36,487
Norman, more strict.

1308
01:04:36,498 --> 01:04:38,160
And then, at that intersection
water again and again

1309
01:04:38,333 --> 01:04:40,120
for shots,
one shot

1310
01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:43,627
which convinced me as a
-viewer  Marion has been stabbed.

1311
01:04:43,797 --> 01:04:46,505
The knife has never been connected with the skin

1312
01:04:46,508 --> 01:04:48,374


1313
01:04:48,385 --> 01:04:51,799


1314
01:04:51,805 --> 01:04:53,637


1315
01:04:53,807 --> 01:04:55,890
but what about this
being shot here?

1316
01:04:56,059 --> 01:04:58,893
I tell you, friends,
it is penetration.

1317
01:04:59,062 --> 01:05:01,850
Hitchcock got away,
uh, shows

1318
01:05:02,023 --> 01:05:04,891
my belly button in the film.

1319
01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:08,436
All film beach towels, you know,
with Annette Funicello  they have bikinis, but they have to have them  above their navel.

1320
01:05:08,446 --> 01:05:10,246
He explained to me
that he was, he said

1321
01:05:10,407 --> 01:05:11,943
"Special Effects Paramount
Department is made

1322
01:05:12,117 --> 01:05:15,155
" For me the body
is from rubber.

1323
01:05:15,328 --> 01:05:17,536
"You dip the knife into it,
blood will spray out.

1324
01:05:17,705 --> 01:05:20,413
" Oh, that's amazing.

1325
01:05:20,417 --> 01:05:22,534
I don't use it at all. "

1326
01:05:22,544 --> 01:05:23,910
" You don't use it at all? "
" No no

1327
01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:26,044
The knife never touches the body. "

1328
01:05:26,214 --> 01:05:27,955
Back to Eisenstein
and all ideas

1329
01:05:27,966 --> 01:05:31,130


1330
01:05:31,302 --> 01:05:33,715


1331
01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:35,845
editing,
uh, cutting.

1332
01:05:35,849 --> 01:05:37,841
Montage.

1333
01:05:38,017 --> 01:05:39,697
He doesn't want a plastic knife or anything.

1334
01:05:39,853 --> 01:05:41,685
He uses the knife.

1335
01:05:41,688 --> 01:05:45,022
He has a sign there
blood, and he presses it

1336
01:05:45,024 --> 01:05:48,233
to my stomach
and then pull it out.

1337
01:05:49,863 --> 01:05:52,571
And then, in that movie
they turn it over  indicates it happened.

1338
01:05:52,574 --> 01:05:53,735
Hitchcock, I think,
is safe to say

1339
01:05:56,244 --> 01:05:58,702
spent his entire career
aiming at his nose at the sensor.

1340
01:05:58,705 --> 01:06:01,368
The last picture "North by
Northwest" is, is a train

1341
01:06:04,252 --> 01:06:07,620
enter the tunnel, as it is very
sexual metaphor that is not subtle

1342
01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:12,625
and then we take it
a post coitus in "Psycho."

1343
01:06:12,635 --> 01:06:14,877
Wow.
That is interesting.

1344
01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:17,637
You know, Production
Administration Code

1345
01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:23,803
still important
at that time.

1346
01:06:24,022 --> 01:06:27,231


1347
01:06:27,442 --> 01:06:30,901
And then try to get it
approved film  by Legion
politeness.

1348
01:06:30,904 --> 01:06:33,567
If one of them
has been a problem

1349
01:06:33,573 --> 01:06:36,361
as far as production and
distribution "Psycho"

1350
01:06:36,576 --> 01:06:39,740
it won't happen
the phenomenon.

1351
01:06:39,954 --> 01:06:42,742
There are a few
negotiations in progress.

1352
01:06:42,916 --> 01:06:45,329
He said, "I will re-shoot the beginning.

1353
01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:47,668
You... you can come
and see me shoot him."

1354
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:50,037
They never showed up.

1355
01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:51,251
All he did was
notify the whole crew

1356
01:06:51,424 --> 01:06:55,293
we will be fair
send the scene back.

1357
01:06:55,303 --> 01:06:56,919
We won't cut it
one frame from it, and he doesn't.

1358
01:06:57,096 --> 01:07:00,555
He keeps basically
telling them, you're an ordinary person

1359
01:07:00,725 --> 01:07:03,092
and you're actually
dog horn prudes

1360
01:07:03,269 --> 01:07:05,761
because you saw something that wasn't there.

1361
01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:09,057


1362
01:07:09,234 --> 01:07:11,271
So everything still exists
in the way he wants it.

1363
01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:13,439
He escaped with that.

1364
01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:15,525
You contrast Hitchcock

1365
01:07:15,740 --> 01:07:18,448
making a nuisance,
a shocking film

1366
01:07:18,451 --> 01:07:20,534
that revolves
around sex and violence.

1367
01:07:20,745 --> 01:07:23,328
and very deep
the protagonist is disturbed

1368
01:07:23,498 --> 01:07:25,911
with the movie coming out
the same year

1369
01:07:25,917 --> 01:07:29,661
in a few months,
like Michael Powell's "Peeping Tom."

1370
01:07:29,837 --> 01:07:33,126
The film, many people see
has been destroyed  Michael Powell's career.

1371
01:07:33,299 --> 01:07:35,632
You know, Val Lewton, who is this
people know I'm obsessed

1372
01:07:35,802 --> 01:07:38,122
but you know, he is a ruler,
You don't see anything, ever.

1373
01:07:38,179 --> 01:07:42,719
There are no cats
on "Cat People."

1374
01:07:42,725 --> 01:07:44,762
Right.
Right, right,

1375
01:07:44,936 --> 01:07:46,393
There are no cats
on "Cat People."

1376
01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:47,970
There are shadows.

1377
01:07:47,981 --> 01:07:49,142
There are some shadows.

1378
01:07:49,315 --> 01:07:50,431


1379
01:07:50,608 --> 01:07:52,270
Everyone
the films are

1380
01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:55,645
the title promises something that
you never really saw.

1381
01:07:55,655 --> 01:07:57,988
You never, there is no Leopard guy
in "Leopard Man."

1382
01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:02,026
And the most terrible murder in all
from the Val Lewton canon

1383
01:08:02,036 --> 01:08:05,074
occurs on the other side
closed door side

1384
01:08:05,081 --> 01:08:06,321
from a mother's perspective

1385
01:08:06,374 --> 01:08:08,741
who hears it
_ daughter is slaughtered.

1386
01:08:08,918 --> 01:08:12,082
And you only see the blood
seeping under the gap in the door.

1387
01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:15,001
You n... you've never seen it, you've never seen it at all.

1388
01:08:15,174 --> 01:08:18,292
And that in my opinion
is like the root of the bathing scene.

1389
01:08:18,469 --> 01:08:20,802
- really.
- I want to throw one there.

1390
01:08:20,972 --> 01:08:22,338
Uh, like,
one movie into a mix

1391
01:08:22,557 --> 01:08:25,721
which has one particular thing
amazing scenery

1392
01:08:25,727 --> 01:08:28,686
what I call horror,
and it "cannot be changed."

1393
01:08:28,855 --> 01:08:29,855
Yes!

1394
01:08:30,023 --> 01:08:31,417
And this is the problem
about the rape scene.

1395
01:08:31,441 --> 01:08:33,979
It's like, that, me... that, is
like, 15 minutes?

1396
01:08:33,985 --> 01:08:37,524
That's something, and they don't really show everything.

1397
01:08:37,697 --> 01:08:39,438
There is no nudity,
nothing.

1398
01:08:39,449 --> 01:08:42,408
Only one shot
remains alive.

1399
01:08:46,289 --> 01:08:47,530
The scene of rape
in "Irreversible"

1400
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:48,934
and the bathing scene
in "Psycho"

1401
01:08:48,958 --> 01:08:50,995
is the right inverse.

1402
01:08:51,169 --> 01:08:54,378
Shower scene
very close...

1403
01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:56,588
... and frenzy.

1404
01:08:56,591 --> 01:08:58,423
And the scene of rape
in "Irreversible"

1405
01:08:58,426 --> 01:09:00,167
very far
and still.

1406
01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:04,843
Mother's shot
is out of focus

1407
01:09:05,058 --> 01:09:07,721
the focus is on water,
not the mother.

1408
01:09:07,894 --> 01:09:11,137
You can argue that this is subjective Marion

1409
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:14,352
the point of view that he
doesn't see who is clear

1410
01:09:14,525 --> 01:09:17,233
because
he was very confused.

1411
01:09:17,403 --> 01:09:19,816
Very fast cutting here,
average

1412
01:09:20,031 --> 01:09:24,696
one shot every three quarters of a second
, 18 frames.

1413
01:09:25,870 --> 01:09:28,829
And the audience in 1960
will experience

1414
01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:31,206
um, they will
see something

1415
01:09:31,376 --> 01:09:33,413
in this way
is not used to seeing it.

1416
01:09:35,463 --> 01:09:37,045
I'm always surprised
that they got away with this.

1417
01:09:37,048 --> 01:09:38,789
Just the amount,
bare breasts

1418
01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:40,298
that they
can appear.

1419
01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:43,794
That must be done
Impressionistic.

1420
01:09:43,805 --> 01:09:47,139
So it's finished
small film pieces.

1421
01:09:47,141 --> 01:09:49,349
Head,
feet, hands.

1422
01:09:50,895 --> 01:09:53,228
Body parts.

1423
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,931
His foot shot
is the first blood cut

1424
01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:58,271
we have
throughout this section.

1425
01:09:58,486 --> 01:10:02,526
Blood begins to scatter
into water rather than flowing.

1426
01:10:02,699 --> 01:10:05,908
You know, you see
spots hit like dark rain

1427
01:10:06,077 --> 01:10:09,411
then only absorbed
by water and it spreads

1428
01:10:09,580 --> 01:10:12,789
in a very haunting thing,
haunting way.

1429
01:10:12,959 --> 01:10:14,700
My mother likes to tell me that  "Oh, you know that,
uh, blood flowing into the drain?  in" Psycho "is chocolate syrup, right?
- chocolate syrup.
Yes.

1430
01:10:14,877 --> 01:10:17,119
So, anyone in this case
room will tell us

1431
01:10:17,338 --> 01:10:19,441
it's not that
actually chocolate syrup?

1432
01:10:19,465 --> 01:10:21,252
They have cans
Hershey syrup

1433
01:10:21,426 --> 01:10:23,292
made easy

1434
01:10:23,302 --> 01:10:25,715
and that's what happens
they are used for blood. around me and to me.

1435
01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:27,421
I accidentally made
films in black and white

1436
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,302
because I knew that
if the color was colored

1437
01:10:29,475 --> 01:10:32,309


1438
01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:35,266


1439
01:10:35,273 --> 01:10:39,187


1440
01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:41,901
uh, draining
will be too disgusting.

1441
01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:47,111
The knife came

1442
01:10:47,118 --> 01:10:49,485
and even though it's fair
swinging through the frame

1443
01:10:49,662 --> 01:10:51,824
my brain tells me
he's just been stabbed

1444
01:10:51,998 --> 01:10:53,705
right behind.

1445
01:10:53,708 --> 01:10:57,201
Then,
to the sneaky piece

1446
01:10:57,211 --> 01:11:00,795
that Tomasini
has been included in the film.

1447
01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:03,332
Start here with his hand
focus in front

1448
01:11:03,342 --> 01:11:05,379
that happened
towards the wall.

1449
01:11:05,386 --> 01:11:07,048
Your eyes
are super confused here

1450
01:11:07,054 --> 01:11:09,046
because you are looking for
in negative space

1451
01:11:09,223 --> 01:11:11,260
a... and fair
wall tiles.

1452
01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:14,260
His hands start
to enter and directly

1453
01:11:14,437 --> 01:11:16,224
there is a jump jump.

1454
01:11:16,397 --> 01:11:18,935
If you watch
at full speed

1455
01:11:18,941 --> 01:11:21,183
only looks
like, bam.

1456
01:11:21,194 --> 01:11:25,404
That finally made him feel like he was
slamming into the wall.

1457
01:11:25,406 --> 01:11:27,272
He's out
is also amazing  that fast movement,
without looking back.

1458
01:11:27,283 --> 01:11:30,117


1459
01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:32,824
He doesn't even stand there
make sure he's dead.
He goes.

1460
01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:36,494
This is almost like a time cut, where
is already out the door.

1461
01:11:36,667 --> 01:11:39,125
And I think some of that is they
really tried to hide  You know who that is.

1462
01:11:39,337 --> 01:11:40,703
And they are tired
indicates that the shot is paralyzed

1463
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,291
where the head looks
like mushrooms.

1464
01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:43,834
Hand shot,
this looks like a starfish

1465
01:11:43,841 --> 01:11:46,379
to the wall.

1466
01:11:46,385 --> 01:11:47,967
It's just a hand, the least important thing
part of his body

1467
01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:50,804
now after he has been hacked to death.

1468
01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:53,052
And you see life recede
out of his body through his hand.

1469
01:11:53,059 --> 01:11:57,554
So, the scene becomes
all about his hand, if you watch it.

1470
01:11:57,730 --> 01:12:00,313
Hands.
And then, hands.

1471
01:12:00,483 --> 01:12:02,941
And you see it go away.

1472
01:12:02,944 --> 01:12:06,437


1473
01:12:06,614 --> 01:12:08,981
Trying to get something.
Hands down the wall.

1474
01:12:08,991 --> 01:12:10,857
He turns around,
where is his hand?

1475
01:12:11,035 --> 01:12:12,947
You know, that kind of thing,
is a big question.

1476
01:12:12,954 --> 01:12:14,848
And if you really watch
the opening scene of "Jurassic Park"

1477
01:12:14,872 --> 01:12:16,329
it's the same thing,
that, you know

1478
01:12:16,332 --> 01:12:17,652
it doesn't matter
that... that guy

1479
01:12:17,792 --> 01:12:19,112
that is eaten
by velociraptor

1480
01:12:19,210 --> 01:12:20,621
You hardly see the face.

1481
01:12:20,628 --> 01:12:23,371
But what matters,
and you watch it

1482
01:12:23,548 --> 01:12:25,039
he grabs
into his hand.

1483
01:12:25,258 --> 01:12:26,715
Hands reach.

1484
01:12:26,884 --> 01:12:28,967
Hands touching
p.

1485
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:31,758
And I think that's part of the
way that he can do it  bringing the audience
into his death  not only, watching him,
watching him die.

1486
01:12:31,931 --> 01:12:34,264
Now he begs for his life,
tries to restrain himself.

1487
01:12:34,433 --> 01:12:37,096


1488
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:41,355


1489
01:12:41,524 --> 01:12:44,107
How the hair goes
like a trail behind it  it follows it ..

1490
01:12:44,277 --> 01:12:45,939
I mean, it's a very haunting picture.

1491
01:12:46,153 --> 01:12:48,566
And that's a wall.

1492
01:12:48,739 --> 01:12:50,651
You know,
You have previous depth

1493
01:12:50,658 --> 01:12:52,274
and now he is just flat
against nothing.

1494
01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:54,948
Nobody did this before.

1495
01:12:54,954 --> 01:12:56,411
Fast death
in the film.

1496
01:12:58,833 --> 01:13:01,997
And even though actors
are happy to use them

1497
01:13:02,169 --> 01:13:05,753
this is very clear
_ directed in such a way.

1498
01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:09,249
You know, in "Torn the Curtain,"
there's this endless scene

1499
01:13:09,427 --> 01:13:11,488
try
to kill someone.

1500
01:13:11,512 --> 01:13:13,344
It's not bleeding
but it's graphic.

1501
01:13:13,514 --> 01:13:14,925
Even "Frenzy"
is pretty graphic

1502
01:13:15,099 --> 01:13:17,432
uh, compared to
to "Psycho."

1503
01:13:17,435 --> 01:13:19,848
But "Psycho" has an
effect as a graphic

1504
01:13:20,021 --> 01:13:22,559
like "Texas Chainsaw
Massacre" later.

1505
01:13:22,565 --> 01:13:25,103


1506
01:13:26,694 --> 01:13:30,233
I like how slow it is, how long it will take.

1507
01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:32,944
There are all these negative things
space on the left side.

1508
01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:35,484
This is
really intentional.

1509
01:13:35,494 --> 01:13:37,406
Hitchcock
is mirror shot

1510
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:39,162
initially
from the sequence

1511
01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:40,698
where Marion
is taking a shower

1512
01:13:40,708 --> 01:13:42,540
right in the right hand
side of the frame.

1513
01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:45,999
That was the book that ended it
made a bathing scene.

1514
01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:49,415
My favorite piece is the hand that came
around to the curtain  and it suddenly
from the staccato rhythm

1515
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,380
You end up with this
shot is completely liquid

1516
01:13:52,553 --> 01:13:54,920
which has a sort of almost, sort of,
poetic and sad quality for that.

1517
01:13:55,097 --> 01:13:59,057
He is dying and
there is tenderness for it

1518
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:01,552
and it makes it
directly emotional.

1519
01:14:01,729 --> 01:14:04,267
S really,
is really a good cut.

1520
01:14:04,482 --> 01:14:07,099


1521
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:09,066
That's... that's one of the best pieces I've ever seen.

1522
01:14:10,696 --> 01:14:13,109
You can
barely see the outline

1523
01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:17,026
from my breasts in that shot.
That's my hand.

1524
01:14:17,203 --> 01:14:20,287
And you can tell the difference
in my knuckles there.

1525
01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:23,290
the ring finger, uh
was a little damaged.

1526
01:14:23,292 --> 01:14:25,158
The nail is darker  from the usual
fingernails.

1527
01:14:25,336 --> 01:14:28,420
When I was three years old,
I... I reached out to help me

1528
01:14:28,589 --> 01:14:31,423
brother on,
uh, lawn mower

1529
01:14:31,592 --> 01:14:33,128
pushing a lawn mower and,
pssh, stop it.

1530
01:14:33,302 --> 01:14:36,136
Here he shoots it, uh,
Cecil B. DeMille really did it first

1531
01:14:39,642 --> 01:14:44,182
in "The Ten
Commands"

1532
01:14:44,188 --> 01:14:46,020
where Sally Lung
lowers the curtain.

1533
01:14:46,232 --> 01:14:49,191
This shot,... shot down, he
just feels very vulnerable

1534
01:14:52,947 --> 01:14:55,860


1535
01:14:55,866 --> 01:14:57,482
like,
like a dying animal.

1536
01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:59,155
It's just like that, once again,
is like a brave shot

1537
01:14:59,161 --> 01:15:02,120
because... is very similar,
nakedness revealed.

1538
01:15:02,123 --> 01:15:05,833
There is a shot
in the bathroom

1539
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:07,459
it was never used

1540
01:15:07,628 --> 01:15:09,308
it's one of the most
heartbreaking shots

1541
01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:11,337
I have never seen.

1542
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:14,458
Anne Heche, she must be willing to do things.

1543
01:15:14,468 --> 01:15:17,677
The one who shot at the end, where
he slipped

1544
01:15:17,888 --> 01:15:21,006
that is the shot
Hitchcock cannot be used.

1545
01:15:21,225 --> 01:15:22,511
But it is a storyboard.

1546
01:15:22,685 --> 01:15:25,268
There is an objection
to use it

1547
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,516
and maybe, Hitch feels

1548
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:29,043
it's not really necessary
.

1549
01:15:30,026 --> 01:15:31,767
Then we come back

1550
01:15:31,944 --> 01:15:33,310
the motive
from the shower

1551
01:15:33,487 --> 01:15:35,649
expressionless eyes,
just watched

1552
01:15:35,656 --> 01:15:37,693
this is terrible
something happened.

1553
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:40,238
This shot from the shower in
starts from the scene

1554
01:15:40,453 --> 01:15:43,161
is one of joy, he
will get a new start.

1555
01:15:43,164 --> 01:15:46,532
And now the same water
is washing away  proof of him
existence and murder.

1556
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:49,827
Water continues to flow
and blood flow

1557
01:15:50,004 --> 01:15:53,213
but heart
stops.

1558
01:15:53,382 --> 01:15:55,089
This is truly an amazing picture to see his life  flows to the sewer.

1559
01:15:55,259 --> 01:15:58,627
You know, what's the metaphor.

1560
01:15:58,846 --> 01:16:00,633
And then switch
to the eye, right?

1561
01:16:00,639 --> 01:16:02,551
Aw, come on.

1562
01:16:05,186 --> 01:16:07,269
That's very good.

1563
01:16:09,774 --> 01:16:11,106
I want to know how long it took
the shot, how long he had to hold it.

1564
01:16:12,943 --> 01:16:14,559
To get his eyes to stay...

1565
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:18,230
Only to ensure that the eyes do not move.

1566
01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:19,113
You can... You can
look a little, I mean...

1567
01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:20,774
God,
it's amazing.

1568
01:16:20,785 --> 01:16:23,243


1569
01:16:23,245 --> 01:16:25,988


1570
01:16:25,998 --> 01:16:28,331
The pointless... spiral
universe

1571
01:16:28,501 --> 01:16:30,834
and how everything
is finally pulled down

1572
01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:33,290
the doll
headed to oblivion

1573
01:16:33,464 --> 01:16:35,205
towards no means
death.

1574
01:16:35,382 --> 01:16:38,671
I think to some extent we
see the fear of Hitchcock

1575
01:16:38,677 --> 01:16:40,213
as well as
as his obsession.

1576
01:16:43,099 --> 01:16:45,967
You see it on "Barton Fink," you see
in many films.

1577
01:16:45,976 --> 01:16:47,717
And you like, why did he
get into the sewer?

1578
01:16:47,728 --> 01:16:49,688
Why does he go inside,
are we going to go inside?

1579
01:16:51,398 --> 01:16:53,264
It's time
from "Psycho"

1580
01:16:53,275 --> 01:16:55,983
where everything
changes.

1581
01:16:56,153 --> 01:16:59,317
This is made by

1582
01:16:59,490 --> 01:17:01,573
auteur filmmaker

1583
01:17:01,742 --> 01:17:04,450
and that is a very personal stamp.

1584
01:17:06,247 --> 01:17:07,829
It ruptured
in the film

1585
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,326
but the movie
never reaches

1586
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:11,575
this type
poetry again.

1587
01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:13,952
And you start
to realize that

1588
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,622
"Oh, this is
what's really

1589
01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:19,090
most important
to Hitchcock."

1590
01:17:19,093 --> 01:17:22,257
Tomasini has finished
clockwise optical turn

1591
01:17:22,263 --> 01:17:24,380
then
is right here

1592
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:27,804
hooks back
to 24 trailer frames.

1593
01:17:30,729 --> 01:17:33,312
I am only amazed
that they can get a clean one.

1594
01:17:33,315 --> 01:17:35,602
Usually, when you do it
an optical, it's pretty rough.

1595
01:17:35,609 --> 01:17:37,771
But it looks very subtle
and very beautiful.

1596
01:17:37,945 --> 01:17:39,527
This is surprising............ and smooth  from where they went
to take direct action.

1597
01:17:39,738 --> 01:17:41,070
This is me... like, one of the biggest
optics  in the history of
films.

1598
01:17:41,073 --> 01:17:42,985
This is also like
what is the order of the title

1599
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:44,445
do it on "Vertigo."

1600
01:17:44,618 --> 01:17:47,201
This is the theme
goes through this film

1601
01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:48,737
and then,
of course

1602
01:17:48,956 --> 01:17:50,618
it's not an
style just for the sake of style.

1603
01:17:50,624 --> 01:17:51,831


1604
01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:53,492


1605
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:55,251
That... it
got content.

1606
01:17:55,254 --> 01:17:57,496
The cameras are very large

1607
01:17:57,506 --> 01:18:01,170
and very difficult to manipulate.

1608
01:18:01,385 --> 01:18:04,048
You can actually
see picture

1609
01:18:04,054 --> 01:18:06,137
from Hitchcock
behind Mitchell

1610
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:08,344
and you understand what it's like

1611
01:18:08,350 --> 01:18:10,137
take the train

1612
01:18:10,311 --> 01:18:14,100
behind that big
camera locomotive.

1613
01:18:14,273 --> 01:18:16,606
Even though today,
is very fast.

1614
01:18:16,609 --> 01:18:18,646
You only do it like that
Gus Van Sant.

1615
01:18:18,819 --> 01:18:20,856
In that remake,
he did all the direct action.

1616
01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:29,573
Setback
from his eyes

1617
01:18:29,788 --> 01:18:33,077
is the whole
robot moving camera.

1618
01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,707
I am seriously following

1619
01:18:34,877 --> 01:18:38,086
the original film
was shot with a shot.

1620
01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:42,295
I can cut it
exactly like the original

1621
01:18:42,468 --> 01:18:43,754
and we watch it

1622
01:18:43,761 --> 01:18:47,254
and it's weird
and it doesn't work.

1623
01:18:47,431 --> 01:18:50,469
I said, "Yes, Gus, you know,
come here, watch the scene."

1624
01:18:50,643 --> 01:18:52,555
I said, "I have
some reservations

1625
01:18:52,561 --> 01:18:54,769
" more like,
how it is playing now

1626
01:18:54,939 --> 01:18:57,022
and it doesn't feel like that
the bathing scene yet. "

1627
01:18:57,191 --> 01:19:00,434
We entered
and tried to make it

1628
01:19:00,444 --> 01:19:02,936
a little more
Gus Van Sant-y.

1629
01:19:03,155 --> 01:19:04,737
To duplicate something,
like

1630
01:19:04,907 --> 01:19:07,115
as an icon
as a bathing scene

1631
01:19:07,326 --> 01:19:11,320
I really think it's fair ,
it won't work.  It's just not
and it doesn't happen.  I always like the placement
the water droplets

1632
01:19:11,538 --> 01:19:13,279
because
they are like tears.

1633
01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:18,581
Right at the end there
little flicker in his eyes  a little spotlight
in his eyes.

1634
01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:21,337
Yes, and you can see
his eyes are moving.

1635
01:19:21,507 --> 01:19:25,251
There are tight, a little
blinking there.

1636
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:27,965


1637
01:19:28,180 --> 01:19:30,046


1638
01:19:30,224 --> 01:19:34,468


1639
01:19:35,521 --> 01:19:39,105
Hitchcock is almost
fetishistically

1640
01:19:39,108 --> 01:19:41,851
stay alive in this case
post-mortem moment.

1641
01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:44,485
This is what happened
after you died

1642
01:19:44,488 --> 01:19:46,104
and no one dies
water.

1643
01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:49,654
Hitch has a little finger snap  to let Janet know
when the camera has passed

1644
01:19:49,868 --> 01:19:51,734
and will go
into the room.

1645
01:19:51,912 --> 01:19:54,120
That, it takes
lots of taking.

1646
01:19:54,123 --> 01:19:56,160
I can feel
moleskin

1647
01:19:56,166 --> 01:19:58,203
pulling away
from my top.

1648
01:19:58,377 --> 01:20:02,166
So, I can
feel this...

1649
01:20:02,172 --> 01:20:04,380
That's just the kind
like going...

1650
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:06,166
And I thought,
"Do you know what?

1651
01:20:07,928 --> 01:20:11,797
" I don't want to do it
this damn thing again.

1652
01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:14,432
I really don't want to. "

1653
01:20:14,435 --> 01:20:16,051
And there are all men
in scaffolding.  And I said," I don't, I don't go
to be simple, "you know.

1654
01:20:16,061 --> 01:20:18,348


1655
01:20:18,355 --> 01:20:22,144


1656
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:23,019
Let them be seen.

1657
01:20:25,446 --> 01:20:27,187
Why did you cut it?
to the bathroom there?

1658
01:20:27,364 --> 01:20:28,855
I don't think
the reason

1659
01:20:28,866 --> 01:20:31,233
something must be done
with artistic decisions.

1660
01:20:31,243 --> 01:20:34,862
That's... the solution
for some of the problems he has.

1661
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:37,076
After my grandfather
was filmed "Psycho"

1662
01:20:37,249 --> 01:20:39,286
it has been shown
for all executives.

1663
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:41,201
The last person he showed me was
is my grandmother

1664
01:20:41,211 --> 01:20:43,203
and they sit
in the playback room

1665
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:46,168
and he found out and he saw
my grandfather and said

1666
01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:47,791
"Hitch, you can't release this."

1667
01:20:47,801 --> 01:20:48,962
And he said, "Why not?"

1668
01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:51,006
And he left, "Janet Leigh
took a breath."

1669
01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:53,471
They can't re-shoot,
Janet is gone.

1670
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,256
Uh, no
has a budget.

1671
01:20:55,434 --> 01:20:59,178
So they just cut back to
bathing spewing water.

1672
01:21:02,316 --> 01:21:06,856
Then,
Cynical camera movements.

1673
01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:11,323
He made his moral decision and this was what made him.

1674
01:21:11,492 --> 01:21:13,092
There is a picture
of the universe that doesn't care

1675
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,742
if you want it.

1676
01:21:14,912 --> 01:21:16,869
And you see the title there,
"Good."

1677
01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:17,872
I... I... it's
not fine.

1678
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,497
Nothing's fine.

1679
01:21:19,666 --> 01:21:21,282
He always returns
to McGuffin

1680
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:24,498
that is $ 40,000.

1681
01:21:24,505 --> 01:21:27,339
Then he throws the newspaper
into the swamp.

1682
01:21:27,341 --> 01:21:29,799
Get off
by car.

1683
01:21:30,010 --> 01:21:32,127
And the audience said,
it's j... that's

1684
01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:34,299
......
is the money

1685
01:21:34,306 --> 01:21:36,138
what we think is
important in this story.

1686
01:21:36,308 --> 01:21:37,719
That's really
not important.

1687
01:21:37,726 --> 01:21:39,286
This is something else
things in the film

1688
01:21:39,311 --> 01:21:40,643
who always torments me.

1689
01:21:40,813 --> 01:21:42,145
The biggest scene
in film history

1690
01:21:42,147 --> 01:21:43,479
ends on the acid note

1691
01:21:43,482 --> 01:21:46,020
with a bad ADR line

1692
01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:47,642
that is doom
from many films.

1693
01:21:54,451 --> 01:21:55,612
This is Norman  just curious
what happened

1694
01:21:55,786 --> 01:21:56,947
and oh, me,
he can't believe it.

1695
01:21:57,121 --> 01:21:59,864
Other murders at the motel.
How did it happen?

1696
01:21:59,873 --> 01:22:01,910
This is amazing
effect.

1697
01:22:03,919 --> 01:22:06,127
This is a very important part of filmmaking  to sort of let the consequences
really land.

1698
01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:09,294
This is not about getting
blood stains out of the bathtub.

1699
01:22:09,466 --> 01:22:13,506
About this

1700
01:22:13,512 --> 01:22:15,845
incredible
tiring process

1701
01:22:16,014 --> 01:22:18,256
that this is irresistible

1702
01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:22,895
a broken soul  need to be done.

1703
01:22:23,063 --> 01:22:25,476
It demands not only that
we watch when we watch

1704
01:22:25,482 --> 01:22:27,599
the murder was
from Marion Crane

1705
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:30,143
but we also
voyeurs to

1706
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,189


1707
01:22:34,366 --> 01:22:36,278


1708
01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:38,694


1709
01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:42,364
creepy
world of Norman.

1710
01:22:42,541 --> 01:22:44,954
For me,
cleansing is represented

1711
01:22:45,127 --> 01:22:49,417
Alfred Hitchcock
sense of order

1712
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:53,004
taste, I'm not sexually
raised by this woman

1713
01:22:53,177 --> 01:22:55,385
and I just
will pretend

1714
01:22:55,554 --> 01:23:00,265
this unpleasant episode
never even happened.

1715
01:23:00,267 --> 01:23:04,181
I think that cleaning
always represents

1716
01:23:04,354 --> 01:23:05,720
sexual guilt.

1717
01:23:05,731 --> 01:23:07,723
You care about this person.

1718
01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:10,271
And I know that sounds crazy, but you do it.

1719
01:23:10,277 --> 01:23:13,020
You want to know if
will happen to him.

1720
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:15,363
You want to know whether he
will be free from this

1721
01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:17,239
or does it run
to consume him?

1722
01:23:17,409 --> 01:23:20,243
The fact that he was able to
to make you care

1723
01:23:20,245 --> 01:23:22,862
is one of the magic
films.

1724
01:23:25,501 --> 01:23:28,164
"Psycho" obviously
has influence

1725
01:23:28,378 --> 01:23:30,461
overall
a number of films.

1726
01:23:30,631 --> 01:23:33,669
"Psycho" is the mother
of the slasher genre.

1727
01:23:33,842 --> 01:23:37,802
The shower scene is really the first, um, fully sexual  on the screen, um,
knife attack.

1728
01:23:37,804 --> 01:23:39,295
You have Mario Bava
in Italy

1729
01:23:39,473 --> 01:23:41,840
and he takes the visual
from the "Psycho" scene.

1730
01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:44,593
In Italy, in the 60s

1731
01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:46,978
they don't have the same
censorship law

1732
01:23:47,147 --> 01:23:48,747
Bava takes
the Hitchcock style

1733
01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:51,937
and really created
Giallo Italian films.

1734
01:23:51,944 --> 01:23:56,154
Dario Argento
exploded to the scene

1735
01:23:56,156 --> 01:23:58,022
with "Bird with
fur crystal"

1736
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,237
determined to present murder as a form of art  consistently having sexual relations
and documenting the murder

1737
01:24:00,244 --> 01:24:03,658
um, um, try to present it
as something beautiful

1738
01:24:03,664 --> 01:24:06,907
catharsis and almost
orgasm that occurs

1739
01:24:06,917 --> 01:24:10,376


1740
01:24:10,379 --> 01:24:13,042


1741
01:24:13,048 --> 01:24:14,459
again and again
in his work.

1742
01:24:16,468 --> 01:24:18,710
Then, of course,
American films

1743
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,461
began to imitate
Italian Films.

1744
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:23,097
And you get waves
80s slasher films started

1745
01:24:23,267 --> 01:24:24,929
with John Carpenter
"Halloween."

1746
01:24:25,143 --> 01:24:27,260
"Psycho" maybe also
really started

1747
01:24:27,437 --> 01:24:30,396
rather negative tendencies
victims of undressing

1748
01:24:30,566 --> 01:24:32,168
before they were slaughtered,
which is something

1749
01:24:32,192 --> 01:24:35,651
a haunted cinema
throughout the 70s.

1750
01:24:35,654 --> 01:24:38,146
Martin Scorsese
talks about

1751
01:24:38,323 --> 01:24:41,316
construction
fight

1752
01:24:41,326 --> 01:24:44,660
in "Raging Bull,"
with Sugar Ray Robinson.

1753
01:24:44,663 --> 01:24:46,370
I really understand
shot-by-shot solving

1754
01:24:46,373 --> 01:24:48,160
from the bathing scene
in "Psycho"

1755
01:24:48,333 --> 01:24:50,495
and there really is my original storyboard  for this one
shot-by-shot

1756
01:24:50,669 --> 01:24:52,911


1757
01:24:52,921 --> 01:24:54,332
and shoot it
in that order.

1758
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:57,882
I don't believe in the influence of the film  culture in this case
again.

1759
01:24:58,051 --> 01:25:00,509
When... a moment
violence is very suggestive

1760
01:25:00,679 --> 01:25:03,843
very new, very different
whatever we see

1761
01:25:04,016 --> 01:25:06,099
it only becomes

1762
01:25:06,268 --> 01:25:07,759
part of the culture
conversation

1763
01:25:07,769 --> 01:25:09,681
and I think
that's what happened

1764
01:25:09,688 --> 01:25:10,928
with a bathing scene.

1765
01:25:11,064 --> 01:25:12,305
I'm on this TV program
called "Screen Queens."

1766
01:26:12,959 --> 01:26:15,918
I have been asked
to take a shower

1767
01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,281
and take photos
before.

1768
01:26:19,383 --> 01:26:21,466
I have been asked
to make it back.

1769
01:26:21,468 --> 01:26:25,257
And I already said
"No" all the time

1770
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:27,262
because of course, um, this is my mother's inheritance  and it's not mine,
to play.

1771
01:26:27,432 --> 01:26:29,845
This is the sandbox.

1772
01:26:29,851 --> 01:26:32,969
But my mother has long been
now more than 10 years.

1773
01:26:33,146 --> 01:26:34,933


1774
01:26:35,107 --> 01:26:38,851


1775
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:42,191
And this
is a good show.

1776
01:26:42,197 --> 01:26:45,065
And that is
very respectful

1777
01:26:45,283 --> 01:26:47,866
funny, respect.

1778
01:26:50,330 --> 01:26:52,367
And so the Red Devil
came in

1779
01:26:52,374 --> 01:26:54,616
He tore the curtain  but I'm not there.

1780
01:26:54,793 --> 01:26:56,785
And that time I came from
behind the bathroom door

1781
01:26:57,003 --> 01:27:00,417
attack him and just before I did it,
I saw him and left

1782
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:03,958
"I saw the film like,
50 times!"

1783
01:27:04,136 --> 01:27:06,628
I'm back in Chicago

1784
01:27:15,731 --> 01:27:17,563
shoot, uh,
Closing September 1960.

1785
01:27:17,774 --> 01:27:21,142
I have worked
in Playboy Club

1786
01:27:22,988 --> 01:27:24,149
until maybe October
that year.

1787
01:27:24,322 --> 01:27:27,110
I am one of the, uh, genuine,
uh, rabbits there.

1788
01:27:27,117 --> 01:27:30,576
I never mentioned
"Psycho."

1789
01:27:30,579 --> 01:27:32,366
The shot
I don't like it

1790
01:27:34,332 --> 01:27:37,370
when, uh, Tony Perkins
pulled me out of the bathtub

1791
01:27:37,544 --> 01:27:40,537


1792
01:27:40,714 --> 01:27:44,003
and wrap me inside,
on the shower curtain.

1793
01:27:44,176 --> 01:27:47,169
He picked me up
Take me to the trunk.

1794
01:27:47,179 --> 01:27:49,887
Well, he, he made me realize,
I don't know, six, nine inches

1795
01:27:50,056 --> 01:27:52,048
from the floor
and drop me back

1796
01:27:52,058 --> 01:27:55,927
because of him... he is not in a
position to take dead weight.

1797
01:27:56,146 --> 01:27:57,986
He picked me up,
put me on his knee and then...

1798
01:28:00,192 --> 01:28:01,808
... and that's me.

1799
01:28:01,985 --> 01:28:04,853
And that, uh, comes out to the car
and that's the end m

