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The first time I set foot
in this place

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was in the fall of 2012.

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THE KINGDOM OF DREAMS AND MADNESS

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Shiraki, here it is.

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May I? Thank you very much.

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You're already here?

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I better get to work.

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This is Hayao Miyazaki.

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He arrives at 11 am sharp and
stops work at 9 pm on the dot.

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He keeps to this schedule
like clockwork.

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Next to him is Sankichi,
in production.

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She mainly manages the schedule.
She's his right-hand woman.

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This is it?
After spending all that time?

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So much to do.
What's next?

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Next, you're checking
the key animation.

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Here it is.

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Hello, please allow me
to observe you working.

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What do they want?

19
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By putting this on the back cover,

20
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they want to explain
why this is here.

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They're asking me to write this?

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Right.

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Who, me?

24
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This is Toshio Suzuki.

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People call him Suzuki-san,
or just "Producer".

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Is that all?
Let me think about it.

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- Think?
- When do they need it?

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Shinchosha wasn't in a hurry,
but Gakken was.

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What's the rush?

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They say he'd make
a fine detective,

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and people come to him
with various "cases".

32
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This should work, right?

33
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What, are you a monk now?

34
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No, not at all.

35
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I reek of worldly desires.

36
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This is Nonaka.

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He alone wears a suit here
because he does legal work.

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We probably shouldn't.
I'll discuss with Miya-san.

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- I see.
- Quicker that way.

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Nonaka.

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He never agreed to
have it published as a book.

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- What? Really?
- We need to clear it.

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Hi, this is Suzuki
from Studio Ghibli.

44
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What? A magazine feature?

45
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It's a mess.
All your fault.

46
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Well, yes, but in that case...

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Enough. What's next?

48
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The e-book for Bunshun.

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According to Nonaka, Suzuki
and Miyazaki go back 35 years.

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At the time, Suzuki worked at
Tokuma Shoten Publishing Co.

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One day, he was given
the impossible task

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of launching an animation
magazine in three weeks.

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Though he knew nothing
about animation,

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his desperate research
led him to...

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Miyazaki, who was working on
Conan, The Boy in Future.

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After Miyazaki directed
his first feature film,

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The Castle of Cagliostro,

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Suzuki commissioned
a serialized manga.

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That eventually became the film,
Nausica of the Valley of the Wind.

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This is Ushiko,
a longtime Ghibli resident.

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Though she freely struts
around the studio,

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even she stays away
from Miyazaki's workspace.

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Especially now with a film
due the next year.

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"Let sleeping dogs lie, "
as they say.

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Workflow Coloring Chart

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Hell
Almost There
Heaven

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Hell
Almost There
Heaven
Why must I keep drawing
when I'm past 70?

68
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Why must I keep drawing
when I'm past 70?

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I use a 5B pencil already.

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These are too soft for kids.

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I even use 6B sometimes.

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Lots of used pencils here.
Please take them.

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Including the Museum,
Ghibli has nearly 400 employees,

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with over 100 people working
on The Wind Rises alone.

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This company is a lot more fun
than I thought it would be.

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It's more like a school.

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Maybe I shouldn't say that.

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Time for radio calisthenics.

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Wait, this is version 2.
I can't do this.

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Imai, you lead the meeting as usual.

81
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Though we didn't release
any films this year,

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character merchandise sales
have been steady.

83
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Next, we'd like to present
our new merchandise.

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Purses, and also coin purses...

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Spirited Away products
have been selling well.

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How's the merchandise
industry in general?

87
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Well, overall...

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it's not exactly healthy.

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- Can we see that in numbers?
- Not quite.

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The merchandisers seem to be aiming
their products at children.

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But the leading market now
is adults, you see.

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Looking at these products
through those eyes,

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I wonder if they meet
our customers' demand.

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For Ghibli calendars,
Totoro is back as top seller.

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How about a Hayao Miyazaki calendar?

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No?

97
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Museum ticket sales overseas are
almost back to pre-tsunami levels,

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though in Korea, the numbers
are only about half

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of what they used to be.

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I don't know version 2 at all.

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I just fake it.

102
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Hello, this is the
Naoto Kan campaign.

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He's in this very van
so he can speak to you.

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Hello, everyone.
This is Naoto Kan speaking.

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Today is day 7 of the election race.

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I'd like to take this
opportunity to speak to you

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about some of the issues
facing our country today.

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It's been 1 year and 7 months
since the nuclear accident.

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I'm curious how all of you feel
about the Fukushima disaster.

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It was the 21st century...

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revealing itself.

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I'm a man of the 20th century.

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I don't want to deal with the 21st.

114
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Yet we have a bunch of
21st century kids here.

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24 of them.

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Part of Miyazaki's daily routine

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is waving hello to the kids
in the in-house nursery.

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You can do it!

119
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Look, here are some works
by a master doodler.

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- Who drew them?
- Sankichi.

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Sankichi really is a rare breed.

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Rare breed?

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No one gets into a movie
like she does.

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I can be pretty scary,
but not around her.

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I conducted her wedding, after all.

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It's okay,
she's a friend of the film.

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Rather, she becomes the film itself.

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No Nuclear Power

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We don't use nuclear power here.

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Miyazaki doesn't write scripts.

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Though he draws storyboards
in their place,

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production begins over a year
before storyboards finish.

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So no one knows how
the film will end.

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00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,594 
Look at this, I must be insane.

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00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,998 
Some of the staff say
it's baffling.

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00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,154 
Some even give up
trying to understand.

137
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,639 
Ever have big dilemmas
when you're editing?

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I do.

139
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,470 
It can feel paralyzing, right?

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00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,149 
And trying to fit it into
a set running time? lmpossible.

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00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,159 
Not like I have a script.

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00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,350 
I'm really not working off
of any guidelines, you know.

143
00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:57,509 
I honestly don't know what
kind of film we'II end up with.

144
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,594 
Like the film writes itself
through you?

145
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,318 
After this flight
I'm retiring.
Like the film writes itself
through you?

146
00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:02,513 
After this flight
I'm retiring.

147
00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,953 
After this flight
I'm retiring.
That's right.

148
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,316 
Otherwise we'd be in trouble.

149
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,512 
This may sound ridiculous,

150
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,635 
but I've had staff tell me they have
no idea what's going on in my films.

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When we were making Spirited Away,
even I didn't know.

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The way I see it, we may
never understand them.

153
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,558 
What does one know
about this world?

154
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When we were a subsidiary
of Tokuma Shoten,

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we didn't fully
understand that company.

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We were fine with that,

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00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,398 
so why worry about
understanding the films?

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00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,917 
The world isn't simple enough
to explain in words.

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00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,076 
Can you feel my pent-up rage?

160
00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,193 
And women ask, how could a man
understand how a woman feels?

161
00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,595 
Those subtle nuances.

162
00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,918 
Kiki's emotions felt so real.

163
00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,914 
It's pretty transparent to me.

164
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,873 
Say, why couldn't Jiji
speak at the end?

165
00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,948 
Sometimes we become speechless.

166
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,599 
When they're together at the end,
there's nothing to say.

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00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,273 
He didn't say anything.

168
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,631 
But he came, right?

169
00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,718 
- Yes, but...
- What could he possibly say?

170
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,478 
Well, maybe that her magic is...

171
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,272 
That her magic is back?

172
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,955 
Her magic deepened, you see.

173
00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,629 
Would you prefer...

174
00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,639 
if Jiji said something like,
"See what happens without me?"

175
00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,479 
That's annoying.
You'd tell him to shut up.

176
00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,636 
"When you gain, you also lose."

177
00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,311 
That sounds cool, right?

178
00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,270 
Or " Quit talking with a cat!"

179
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,153 
Should I be chatting away
while drawing storyboards?

180
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,594 
Thankfully, my brain
is compartmentalized.

181
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,996 
Look, the scene totally changed.

182
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,151 
- Wow.
- Right?

183
00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,670 
Films sure are organic.

184
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,157 
As the sun begins to set,
Suzuki heads into the city,

185
00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:57,351 
where he continues meetings.

186
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,713 
Meanwhile, Miyazaki and his team go
to the rooftop to gaze at the sky.

187
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,036 
I have my daily ritual.

188
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,550 
Every day I use
a massage brush, exercise,

189
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take a shower, go pick up trash,
go get coffee,

190
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,239 
then I come home and eat.

191
00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,231 
That takes three hours a day,
maybe more.

192
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,309 
But that's my life's foundation.

193
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,874 
Within that range, I read the world.

194
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,909 
Like noticing how the town
has started to change,

195
00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:42,078 
or wondering what's going on
with this person.

196
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,669 
Or noticing changes in prices.

197
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,673 
It's only what I see.

198
00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,394 
After work, Miyazaki returns
to his private atelier.

199
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,348 
I don't take holidays or
Saturdays off, only Sundays.

200
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,114 
And Sundays are very busy for me.

201
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,395 
Every Sunday morning,
I go clean the river.

202
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,797 
Oops, I forgot to lock up
and take the goats down.

203
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,390 
Totally exposed.

204
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,278 
Well done, fellas.

205
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,478 
Where are they from?

206
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,798 
They were part of the Heidi
exhibit at the Museum.

207
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,231 
Couldn't bear to see them
sitting in storage.

208
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,918 
That's done.

209
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,072 
Still some fire left.

210
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,749 
I'm not good at sustaining things,

211
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,152 
but there's this thing
I did four years ago,

212
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,190 
the year after the
2008 financial crisis.

213
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,036 
The Depression -- Year One

214
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,157 
The Depression -- Year One
I documented how the Depression
manifested itself in my town.

215
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,309 
I documented how the Depression
manifested itself in my town.

216
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,511 
This is the river we clean.

217
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,199 
Much cleaner now, right?

218
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,117 
I just took pictures of everything.

219
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,472 
The kids like the goats.

220
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,870 
Kids from the nursery.
I think they've all left now.

221
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,874 
Here's my room.

222
00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:00,229 
This is the barbershop I've
been going to for 40 years.

223
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,035 
Just ordinary things I see.

224
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,556 
"I tried to document the Depression
but ended up with...

225
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,069 
"snapshots of life as usual."

226
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,509 
Just a typical, ordinary day,

227
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,518 
but I wanted to keep
pictures of ordinary days.

228
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,399 
Then I got bored.

229
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,394 
I sensed something was coming.

230
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,558 
So when March 11 happened
and the plant exploded,

231
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,389 
I didn't expect that,
but I wasn't surprised.

232
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,674 
Towards the end of the year
before March 11,

233
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,077 
the sky started turning
unusually clear,

234
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,911 
and I knew something was off.

235
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,119 
The sky's the same still,
so it's not over yet.

236
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,593 
It's written here.

237
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,797 
"Year 4 of the Depression."

238
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,389 
This is the total of
government deficit bonds

239
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,876 
and the interest on it this year.

240
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,033 
"The Great Pacific Earthquake
of March 11."

241
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,111 
This was last year.

242
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,315 
See, I wrote " The year it begins:
March 11, 2011."

243
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,590 
The year it begins:
March 11, 2011

244
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,076 
Those are from the year before.

245
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,631 
Before the radiation in Fukushima,

246
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,310 
before the nuclear
power plant exploded.

247
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,315 
These are photos from before that.

248
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,990 
Who could've imagined
what took place?

249
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,277 
A child entering this world
must sit in another's chair,

250
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,598 
eat food from another's plate,
sleep in another's bed.

251
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,474 
Only in this way
can you find your place.

252
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:07,196 
When you got married, why did
you decide to do so?

253
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,279 
I had no choice but to get married.

254
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,315 
I asked her to marry me.
Can't back out.

255
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,154 
How did you know it was her?

256
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,028 
I don't know,
that's just how it works.

257
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,875 
Is it?

258
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,796 
Huh?

259
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,876 
But why?

260
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,152 
How should I know?
It's a secret of life.

261
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,199 
I need to hurry and finish this film.

262
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,199 
You know, people who design
airplanes and machines...

263
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,470 
No matter how much they believe
that what they do is good,

264
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,309 
the winds of time eventually
turn them into tools

265
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,830 
of industrial civilization.

266
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:01,396 
It's never unscathed.
They're cursed dreams.

267
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,873 
Animation, too.

268
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,029 
Cursed dreams?

269
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,392 
Today, all of humanity's dreams
are cursed somehow.

270
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,558 
Beautiful yet cursed dreams.

271
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,239 
I'm not even talking about
wanting to be rich or famous.

272
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,079 
Screw that.
That's just hopeless.

273
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,431 
What I mean is, how do we know
movies are even worthwhile?

274
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280 
If you really think about it,

275
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,597 
is this not just some grand hobby?

276
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:46,119 
Maybe there was a time when you could
make films that mattered, but now?

277
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,599 
Most of our world is rubbish.

278
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,434 
It's difficult.

279
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,754 
Not long after I came here,

280
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,111 
I became aware of a third man.

281
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,553 
This makes it clear.

282
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,636 
Should we insert it there?

283
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,149 
Is there a better spot for it?

284
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,476 
Maybe cut " We must try to live" ?

285
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,399 
It makes sense when it's together.

286
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,756 
True, or else it's too grim.

287
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,430 
Please proceed.

288
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,073 
Great, thanks.

289
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,316 
I leave it to you, Suzuki-san.

290
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,431 
- Thank you.
- Thank you.

291
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,317 
You can tell Miya-san is quick
with decisions, right?

292
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,993 
Definitely.

293
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,996 
He chooses his poster art
in just five seconds.

294
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,993 
He's fast... unlike the
guy you're about to meet.

295
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,679 
For two hours, we waited.

296
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,878 
Nishimura, looks like
July 20 is a no go, huh?

297
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,950 
These 61 shots just got done today.

298
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,718 
20 more shots tomorrow
bring us to 81.

299
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,117 
So even with this
concerted effort...

300
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:23,793 
Right, it's slow.

301
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,791 
Nishimura is another producer
checking in with Suzuki.

302
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,389 
It's a serious problem to
have gotten only this far by now.

303
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,637 
- We have a press conference.
- I know.

304
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,397 
Should we announce it jointly,

305
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,716 
and move the date later?

306
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,151 
Let's stick with July 20 for now.

307
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,150 
- For the December press.
- Right.

308
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,354 
I haven't told anyone, and I won't.

309
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,357 
In my mind, it's July 20.

310
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,549 
Understood.

311
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,431 
It's tough.

312
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,917 
Announcing Studio Ghibli's
New Productions

313
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,749 
Today, Studio Ghibli will announce
their latest projects.

314
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,591 
We'll now begin the press conference.

315
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,597 
The materials you've received
should indicate...

316
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,236 
that The Tale of The Princess Kaguya

317
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,596 
and The Wind Rises

318
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,912 
will be released simultaneously.

319
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,311 
Or something to that effect.

320
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,911 
But once Takahata begins,
how should I put this...

321
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:09,148 
He's never delivered a film
on time or on budget.

322
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,596 
This guy here is already... 35?

323
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,471 
Correct.

324
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,148 
He's been on this project since 2006.

325
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,153 
In that time, he married
and had two kids.

326
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,676 
One's starting elementary school.

327
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:34,316 
This may be Takahata's last film,
but we feel that it'll be his best.

328
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,672 
To quickly summarize
The Wind Rises,

329
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,998 
it's about a man
named Jiro Horikoshi.

330
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,629 
For those who aren't familiar with him,

331
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,354 
he designed the Zero fighter plane.

332
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,028 
The story begins in his childhood,

333
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,791 
when Jiro Horikoshi is ten years old.

334
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,276 
The boy is in love with the skies,

335
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,871 
and dreams of flying an airplane.

336
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,354 
That's his dream.

337
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,791 
But by the time this boy grows up,

338
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,669 
and becomes an adult years later,

339
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,954 
hoping to find a job making planes,
the world is at war.

340
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,633 
So he's forced to design
carrier-borne fighter planes.

341
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,395 
Miyazaki was born in 1941,

342
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,875 
so he lived through the war.

343
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,390 
But just like this character,

344
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,673 
he finds himself fascinated
by military aircrafts.

345
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,237 
He's a man who's lived
with this contradiction.

346
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,716 
He's torn by what he loves.

347
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,196 
He's drawn to war planes,
yet he's anti-war.

348
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,188 
How is someone like him
even possible?

349
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,678 
That's what he's trying to
answer with this film.

350
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,916 
Even if they finish concurrently,

351
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,554 
you could still stagger the release.

352
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,228 
Why choose to release them together?

353
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,392 
Studio Ghibli is located
in Higashi-Koganei.

354
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,592 
Miyazaki is making his film
in the North,

355
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,917 
and Takahata is making his
in the South.

356
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,588 
To explain their relationship,

357
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,439 
Takahata is actually
five years older.

358
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,952 
And when Miyazaki entered
this industry,

359
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,755 
it was Takahata who had
discovered him.

360
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,636 
Half a century ago,

361
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:38,075 
at Toei Animation, a young man named
Isao Takahata began his first job.

362
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,634 
Four years later, Miyazaki joined
the company fresh out of college.

363
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,798 
Takahata, also called "Paku-san",
took him under his wing,

364
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,116 
and they began working together.

365
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,312 
Miyazaki started as his apprentice.

366
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,433 
They started working together
on the same films,

367
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,631 
and they began forging a bond.

368
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,474 
Takahata directed,
and Miyazaki drew the art.

369
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,989 
That's what they did for 15 years.

370
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,317 
Eventually, Paku-san, Miyazaki
and others left Toei Animation.

371
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,636 
Later, they made the TVseries
Heidi, A Girl of the Alps,

372
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,274 
directed by Paku-san.

373
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,668 
They continued to work on
many works together,

374
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,477 
but during production on
Anne of Green Gables, Miyazaki left.

375
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,837 
The days of making "our" films and
calling ourselves partners are over.

376
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,316 
We're at the next stage.
I had to start directing.

377
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,195 
Really.

378
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,711 
But after making his debut
with The Castle of Cagliostro,

379
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,873 
for his second film,
Nausica of the Valley of the Wind,

380
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,358 
Miyazaki asked Paku-san
to be the producer.

381
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,034 
After releasing My Neighbor Totoro
and Grave of the Fireflies together,

382
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,872 
and after Kiki's Delivery Service
opened, Ghibli went to a salary system.

383
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,719 
Suzuki left Tokuma Shoten

384
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,878 
and officially joined Ghibli.

385
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,671 
Miyazaki once served as
producer on Paku-san's film.

386
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,514 
Mark down July 5 as the release date,
no later. Mark it with a skull.

387
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,599 
Ever since, Suzuki has produced
both of their films.

388
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,835 
No doubt, they're rivals.

389
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,919 
Friendly competitors.

390
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,350 
So in that sense,

391
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,439 
bringing their films out
at the same time...

392
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,756 
is great motivation for them.

393
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,511 
I believe it'll help them
make great films.

394
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,756 
It's strategic.

395
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,359 
Mr. Nishimura, you mentioned
that this may be...

396
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,348 
Takahata's best and final film.

397
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,433 
Will this really be his last film?

398
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,868 
This is it.

399
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,436 
I didn't know what to do.

400
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,757 
I didn't think it was physically
possible to produce both their films.

401
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880 
I'd have no time for anything else.

402
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,557 
During Totoro, Miya-san got upset.

403
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,310 
I'd be working on stuff with
Takahata-san until midnight,

404
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,796 
then I had to work
on a book after that,

405
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,794 
so I'd go to my office
at Tokuma Shoten.

406
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,116 
Then I'd get a phone call.

407
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,438 
It's Miya-san, he wants a meeting.

408
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,319 
So I'd have to go all the way back.

409
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,272 
And I realized I'd been ignoring him.

410
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,313 
In order to bring Takahata-san's
film to fruition,

411
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,998 
I needed someone who could stick
with him 24 hours a day.

412
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,954 
So when Nishimura emerged,
I knew we could do it.

413
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,631 
The studio turns into chaos.

414
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,516 
After he finished
My Neighbors the Yamadas,

415
00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:29,679 
I came back from my retreat
in a mountain cabin,

416
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,156 
and he'd left the studio
in total disarray.

417
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,312 
I was so mad.

418
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,719 
Paku-san doesn't care
about that stuff.

419
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:47,553 
But you haven't ever
abandoned him, right?

420
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,197 
No, I've already abandoned him...
as a filmmaker.

421
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,830 
He can't make films anymore.

422
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,713 
He's even trying
to not finish.

423
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,029 
Takahata-san?

424
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,236 
Right. Don't you think?

425
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,237 
He's making one right now.

426
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,509 
Sure.

427
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,911 
But he's trying
to not finish it, isn't he?

428
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,709 
Don't you think?

429
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,869 
To not finish?

430
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,751 
Right.

431
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,838 
Think I'm cruel?

432
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,239 
Steel your heart!

433
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,516 
As for Princess Kaguya,

434
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,757 
it won't be ready.
Let's just say it.

435
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,759 
It'll take a miracle
to finish by summer.

436
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,437 
Which won't happen.

437
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,750 
Giving up on a miracle,

438
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,748 
Suzuki went on a regional tour
to promote the films.

439
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,956 
We'll make the rounds.

440
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,709 
The two meet during
The Great Kanto Earthquake.

441
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,159 
Oh, I see...
This isn't going to work.

442
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,111 
These standees are useless.

443
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,590 
This should all be Ghibli posters.

444
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,315 
Thank you.

445
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,672 
They're accompanied by
Okuda from Nippon TV.

446
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,156 
You sure eat a lot.

447
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,836 
Suzuki-san is very strategic

448
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,796 
about when and to whom
he shows the finished film.

449
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,829 
Not only that,

450
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,830 
with meetings, it's how
many people, who, where.

451
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,994 
What will we eat?

452
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,516 
Do we meet after the meal
or during the meal?

453
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,474 
Will there be lunch boxes?
He thinks of everything.

454
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,198 
With every meeting,

455
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,031 
he knows people change
based on who's there.

456
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,873 
So I'm sure there's a reason
Okuda is there.

457
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,876 
During the war,
Miyazaki's father...

458
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,157 
had a company named
Miyazaki Airplane

459
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,672 
that manufactured parts
for war planes.

460
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,991 
So Miyazaki is putting a lot of
his father into the Jiro character

461
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,998 
in this film.

462
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,909 
Hey, that sounds familiar...

463
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,919 
Round, round, go round

464
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,396 
Waterwheel, go round

465
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,435 
Bring spring and summer,
fall and winter...

466
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,429 
The Tale of The Princess Kaguya

467
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,879 
Coming Summer 2013

468
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,711 
It's the song's fault. " Bring spring
and summer, fall and winter."

469
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,797 
Now the film will never finish.

470
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,275 
Round and round...

471
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,436 
Should've stopped at fall.

472
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,038 
This'II sound overblown,

473
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,911 
but for 3 years I've dreamt
only of Takahata-san.

474
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,634 
I'm serious, it's all about him.

475
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,590 
Just trying to push him.

476
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,792 
Everyone doubts whether
the film will get done.

477
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,634 
They know what he's like.

478
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,391 
They know how bad
he is with schedules.

479
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,272 
And his behavior...

480
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,999 
It's worrisome.

481
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,677 
Meanwhile, The Wind Rises

482
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,271 
was struggling to find
a voice actor for the lead.

483
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,831 
My impression of Jiro
is that his voice is...

484
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,353 
how to put this,
more on the dainty side.

485
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,358 
But that's not it?

486
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,792 
Not dainty.

487
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,509 
More like...

488
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,191 
Intellectuals back then had
good diction and higher voices.

489
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,159 
Frankly, he's just terse.

490
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,877 
He's so smart that
he spares his breath.

491
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,991 
It's not because he's shy.

492
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,515 
We just need an actor
who can perform that.

493
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,352 
This guy doesn't exist.

494
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:24,039 
The people on this list won't
be able to give us that.

495
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,035 
Maybe a non-actor
would be better.

496
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,399 
But that'll be difficult.

497
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,875 
- Then they can't act.
- Too extreme?

498
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,076 
- A former non-actor?
- What?

499
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,716 
Then how about, for example...

500
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,353 
Anno?

501
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,999 
Hideaki Anno? Interesting.

502
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,237 
We can't do Anno.

503
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,916 
What would that be like?

504
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,196 
Anno's voice, huh?

505
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,239 
What do you think about Anno?
I'm getting serious.

506
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,759 
- He has a weird voice.
- He does.

507
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,388 
He has integrity.

508
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,435 
Right, he's very earnest.
The man doesn't lie.

509
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,593 
What would happen?

510
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,396 
It'll sound strange,
but you'll get used to it.

511
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,798 
It'll really bring him to life.

512
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,592 
I kind of like this idea.

513
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,639 
I'll call him and inquire.

514
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,753 
Anno, what an amazing idea.

515
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,393 
Hi there, I've got
a question for you.

516
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,319 
And this isn't a joke, I'm serious.

517
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,389 
You know Miya-san is making
The Wind Rises, right?

518
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,992 
For the lead voice,

519
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,839 
he thinks you might be the one.

520
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,634 
Will you come audition for us?

521
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,314 
I'll e-mail details later.

522
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,311 
Great.

523
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,679 
He'II do it.

524
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,796 
Okay, we're rolling.

525
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:39,276 
You must be hungry.

526
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,199 
Here's something to eat.

527
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,039 
It's sponge cake.
I just bought it.

528
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,355 
We're designing for the future.

529
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,516 
Wing loading is
120... kilos per square meter.

530
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,950 
Mr. Hirayama is our production...

531
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,559 
Oh, I'm sorry.

532
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,957 
Mr. Hirayama is
our production engineer.

533
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,879 
- Okay, that's enough, come up.
- Sure.

534
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,037 
The role's yours!
The occasional slur we can fix.

535
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,395 
With a few takes.

536
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,238 
Your voice will work.

537
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,192 
- You think?
- Yes, please do it.

538
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,233 
How could I say no to Miya-san?

539
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,396 
This is shocking news.

540
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,828 
Shocking is right.

541
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,712 
- I'm shocked.
- Me, too.

542
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,396 
But know that Jiro Horikoshi
is no ordinary man.

543
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,397 
Never mind the kiss scene.

544
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,591 
- No lines there.
- No lines.

545
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,756 
Not like I'll be kissing.

546
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,713 
I like how enigmatic your voice is.

547
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,914 
That's a compliment?

548
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,599 
It's hard to pin down.

549
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,871 
The auditions were awful.

550
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,229 
Actors?

551
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,750 
Right, actors.
Not voice actors.

552
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,278 
Their line deliveries
are all the same.

553
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,199 
They consider the other person,

554
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,038 
or pretend to,

555
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,029 
and then emote, like
"this is me, emoting!"

556
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,036 
- Let's go with Anno!
- Okay!

557
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,191 
Yes.

558
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,953 
What a turn of events.

559
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,628 
It's life in the 21st century.

560
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,430 
He was so young then.

561
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,114 
Nausica Memoirs
I still remember when I met him.

562
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,313 
Nausica Memoirs

563
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,436 
Nausica Memoirs
He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,

564
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:33,792 
He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,

565
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,309 
then he turned and faced me,

566
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,115 
and his first words to me were,
"When can you start?"

567
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,956 
"Well, I'm still in Osaka,
so not immediately..."

568
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,159 
"What, you can't start tomorrow?!"

569
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,068 
Sure, I remember.

570
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,317 
- What was he like?
- Like an alien.

571
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,672 
- Alien?
- Like, who is this guy?

572
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,110 
What planet did he come from?

573
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,632 
He was 23 then.

574
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,273 
Anno drew the Giant Warrior
in Miyazaki's Nausica,

575
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,590 
then went on to become one of
Japan's most prominent directors.

576
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,356 
Thank you.

577
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,520 
When he's walking,
if his head goes up like this,

578
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,036 
each step will look too bouncy.

579
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,559 
Like a cheap background extra.

580
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:56,995 
We should probably fix this one, too.
Stands out too much.

581
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,150 
Feels like it's working...

582
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,715 
But feels like it's not.

583
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,396 
Never made a film like this.

584
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,910 
Though I did make Porco Rosso,
a foolish film.

585
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,829 
Even when I had the chance,
I didn't want to.

586
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,074 
Why was Porco Rosso foolish?

587
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,716 
Because I've been making
films for kids.

588
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,396 
That film wasn't for kids.

589
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,674 
How did this happen?

590
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,510 
What am I doing with this film?

591
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,591 
I'm not really sure how
I ended up with this.

592
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,559 
Am I strange?

593
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,394 
Sure.

594
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,790 
A white sloping path

595
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,278 
Runs up into the sky

596
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,832 
A gently swaying, misty haze

597
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,918 
Surrounding and holding

598
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,676 
Unnoticed by anyone

599
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,270 
- All alone
- "...all alone... "

600
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,833 
Hold still.

601
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,439 
Hold still.

602
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,518 
Please quit if you: 1. have no ideas
2. always rely on others

603
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:19,349 
3. shirk responsibility
4. lack enthusiasm

604
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,993 
The world's gone crazy, huh?

605
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,829 
You know, we're starting
to feel restricted.

606
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,031 
- By whom?
- Everyone.

607
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,192 
Starting with NHK telling us
what we can't do.

608
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,792 
Getting preemptive.

609
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:40,195 
Really?

610
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,710 
Suggesting we can't
touch on certain issues,

611
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,876 
whether it's on film or TV.

612
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,156 
Pathetic.

613
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,239 
Not just the government,
even the private sector.

614
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,398 
Pushing us back to the far right.

615
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,230 
The days of creative freedom
are ending.

616
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:02,709 
You think?

617
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,520 
You two are
the end of the line.

618
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:13,519 
In a sense, what we managed to do
for 50 years is all coming to an end.

619
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,395 
The writing's on the wall.

620
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,750 
And so it begins.

621
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,073 
We must live.

622
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,750 
I think we're feeling that
sense of dread in the air

623
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,233 
that my parents felt
back in their day.

624
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,596 
Headed for the unknown.

625
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,069 
No one thought we'd go
to war with America.

626
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,757 
And getting into that
quagmire with China...

627
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,275 
It happened while people
weren't paying attention.

628
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,960 
Suddenly, Japan went crazy
and waged war on the world.

629
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,270 
I didn't know how
people felt back then,

630
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,956 
but now I'm beginning
to understand.

631
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,157 
We're headed that way.

632
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,992 
This isn't some kind of
predictable story.

633
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,997 
Who knows what'll happen.

634
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,151 
As for me, I'm done making movies.

635
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,477 
It's futile now.

636
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,119 
I'm done.

637
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,518 
That's someone dressed as you.

638
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,199 
Sure looks like me.

639
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,676 
Wondered if I was there.

640
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,519 
Whatever.

641
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,668 
I think some blame goes
to senior citizens.

642
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,519 
Younger people are
more indifferent now.

643
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,358 
I guess so.

644
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,190 
Almost like younger people
have given up already.

645
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,640 
I'm not sure, but it's like...

646
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,833 
The storyboard he's
worked on for two years

647
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,310 
is about to get done tonight.

648
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,116 
This is tedious, I quit.

649
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,111 
I moved that line over here.

650
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,799 
Got it?

651
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,637 
So you're done?

652
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,639 
Almost threw out your back.

653
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,115 
Shall we pop this?

654
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,799 
Let's do it.

655
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,309 
Everyone, the storyboard is done.

656
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,429 
Gather around to celebrate.

657
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,999 
Here's the button.

658
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,996 
Press it?

659
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,479 
Oh, like this.

660
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,156 
I'd prefer more of a pop.

661
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,314 
Well, I managed to finish it.

662
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,839 
Oh, you did?

663
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,678 
I did, but...

664
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,028 
Is it pretty much as planned?

665
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,118 
Yes, but without the battle scene.

666
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,114 
This here.

667
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,671 
Right, the Zero planes.

668
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,390 
This is the only way
I could end this.

669
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,511 
I understand.

670
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,079 
- This shot is pretty nice.
- It is.

671
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,396 
You know, reading it
all the way through,

672
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,319 
not sure if this is intended, but...

673
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,030 
it feels strongly anti-war.

674
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:45,389 
Definitely.

675
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,831 
I don't believe Jiro Horikoshi
was militant at all.

676
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,750 
I know what you mean,
but we have to do it.

677
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,712 
Right.

678
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,749 
Chan-san.

679
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,595 
Chan-san.

680
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,479 
You happy?

681
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,796 
Thank you.

682
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,235 
Snowing, huh?

683
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,158 
Sure is.

684
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,794 
- Happy, no?
- Not at all.

685
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,797 
The film's final scene

686
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,160 
had Jiro reuniting with
his wife Nahoko, who died young.

687
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,751 
There, she calls him to her.

688
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,630 
He says, " She's been
waiting here for a long time."

689
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,436 
Instead of waving her hand...

690
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,631 
- More like this?
- Right.

691
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,472 
Basically, between this world
and the next,

692
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,673 
there are people who aren't
allowed into heaven.

693
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,830 
After death.

694
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,157 
This is Caproni's kingdom.

695
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,155 
She says, " Come."

696
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,793 
When she says that,

697
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,672 
it's not like "Come!"

698
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,638 
More like a whisper.

699
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,472 
Somehow he can hear her.

700
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,791 
Jiro understands her, so...

701
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,117 
he nods like this.

702
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,709 
You see, what drives animation
is the will of the characters.

703
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,191 
You don't depict fate,
you depict will.

704
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,558 
Even if fate exists.

705
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,076 
I tried some things to
make the arm look thinner,

706
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,038 
but I think it's better
to make it look looser.

707
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,556 
So keep it around here.

708
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,912 
Almost done.

709
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,598 
- Trying to wrap this up?
- Of course!

710
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,593 
- Wanna get done!
- Wanna get done!

711
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,597 
The end is a new beginning.

712
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,514 
Thanks, I'll do my best, too.

713
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,756 
Thank you.

714
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,155 
You all just want this over, dammit.

715
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,597 
This is Miyazaki's son, Goro.

716
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,757 
He's directed
two features at Ghibli,

717
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,950 
and he's been developing
a new project with this producer.

718
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,955 
But business-wise...

719
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,755 
I'm not talking about business.

720
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,753 
- But look, Goro...
- No, no, no...

721
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,315 
- This is all for you.
- It's for me?

722
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,629 
What Goro means is...

723
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,956 
What I mean is,

724
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,072 
how do I explain this...

725
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,749 
I came into this industry
by accident.

726
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,153 
Working in animation?

727
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,399 
I didn't start off wanting
to work in animation

728
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,069 
and aspiring to be a director

729
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,229 
to make my own films.
That's not how I got started.

730
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,678 
So naturally, from my standpoint,

731
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,000 
sometimes I do have doubts
about my abilities,

732
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,317 
and whether I have enough experience.

733
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,518 
So for me to keep doing this,

734
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,349 
I need a just cause,
a good reason to do it.

735
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,029 
And if I didn't come to Ghibli,
I wouldn't be doing this.

736
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,191 
On one hand I want to do it
because I enjoy it,

737
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,676 
but when I make films,

738
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,515 
I do it for this company,
Studio Ghibli.

739
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,836 
It's for the people here,

740
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,349 
and I don't mean the business.

741
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,199 
It's for the people I work with.

742
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,358 
That gives me a reason to do it.

743
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,396 
But why do this project?
Is this just for me?

744
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,990 
It's up to you to find
a reason to do it,

745
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,875 
so if you can't find one,
then that's that.

746
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,239 
If I may chime in...

747
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,718 
I'm saying don't pin it
all on the director.

748
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,070 
Okay, wait...

749
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,555 
Isn't the producer responsible?

750
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,911 
Here's what I was trying to say.

751
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,876 
The Wind Rises and Princess Kaguya
are both interesting cases.

752
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,433 
With both projects,

753
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,236 
neither director actually
wanted to do it.

754
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,595 
Then why did they get made?

755
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,757 
If we really get down
to the truth of the matter,

756
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,272 
I hate to say this,
but I pushed it through.

757
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,754 
That's my point.

758
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,234 
Miya-san took four months to
decide to do The Wind Rises.

759
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,797 
Takahata-san kept complaining,
"Why should I have to do this?"

760
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,796 
That's the truth. So I want
to look at this logically.

761
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,797 
Honestly, I believe that it's
best for this particular project

762
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,753 
if I stay out of
the creative process.

763
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,999 
But I think I misjudged
the proper distance.

764
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,475 
For that I truly apologize.
It wasn't my intention.

765
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,272 
I just ask that you
reconsider this.

766
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,639 
Suzuki-san, introduce yourself.

767
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,517 
He's actually a big man here.

768
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,995 
Don't say that.

769
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,157 
You've all met me.

770
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,790 
We'll be working together
for a long time.

771
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,956 
Welcome aboard.

772
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,988 
Regarding the 1,000 sq. meter
plot in Higashi-Koganei,

773
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:12,360 
I actually met with
the seller yesterday,

774
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,834 
and we got it.

775
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,789 
We're going to build
a three-story studio.

776
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,470 
First floor, second floor...

777
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,356 
Basically, our foremost
objective here...

778
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,514 
is making good films.

779
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,958 
No guarantees of
lifetime employment here.

780
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,558 
But companies are just
conduits for money.

781
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,831 
Its success isn't our priority.

782
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,515 
What's important is that
you're doing what you want,

783
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,712 
and that you're gaining skills.

784
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,549 
If Ghibli ceases to appeal
to you, then just quit.

785
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,872 
Because I'll do the same.

786
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,918 
Always the same predictable stuff

787
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,759 
Always recycling the same shots

788
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,077 
It'll turn into a boring show

789
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,437 
And the fad will be over

790
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,233 
Work for it, Ken!

791
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,879 
Work for it, Ken!

792
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,913 
Until you can reach the sun

793
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,519 
Work for it, Ken!

794
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,073 
Work for it, Ken!

795
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,556 
Work for it,
Ken, The Wild Boy!

796
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,272 
It's taken on so much
and gotten so big.

797
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:48,035 
But, well... that's it.

798
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,277 
Aren't you worried about
the studio's future?

799
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,792 
The future is clear.
It's going to fall apart.

800
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,718 
I can already see it.

801
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,958 
What's the use worrying?
It's inevitable.

802
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,955 
"Ghibli" is just a random name
I got from an airplane.

803
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,272 
It's only a name.

804
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,596 
How pretty.

805
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,195 
- It's okay to fall down.
- Right.

806
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,675 
Get back up and keep trying.

807
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:00,949 
That's right.

808
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,038 
- That's important.
- Thank you.

809
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,632 
Look how carefree she looks.

810
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,877 
You have no schedule.

811
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,790 
Ushiko, you go in my place.

812
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,832 
Her gaze doesn't need to follow him.

813
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,032 
She's a natural, serious character.

814
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,831 
With the shadows...

815
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,189 
- Oh, hello.
- Go on.

816
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,389 
She just brought up
a very interesting issue,

817
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,875 
which I'd like to explain.

818
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:41,677 
Glancing sideways while turning
makes the character look vulgar.

819
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,553 
We can't do that in this film.

820
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,233 
When she does that while saying,

821
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,150 
"I've already told the doctor,"
it makes her look mean.

822
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,351 
It makes her look arrogant,
like she's in charge.

823
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,755 
It's fine in contemporary dramas,

824
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,669 
which basically pit
egos against one another.

825
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,076 
Behavior has changed over time.

826
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,236 
Even bowing, for instance.

827
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,031 
After you bow, back then
you didn't go back all the way.

828
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,115 
Watch me, I'll demonstrate.

829
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:27,269 
"Thank you." See, I didn't
straighten all the way back.

830
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,278 
If I popped straight back up,

831
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,190 
it was considered rude
and arrogant in those days.

832
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,273 
"Ah, is that right?"

833
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,876 
You bring it back slowly.

834
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,117 
See, that's Japanese etiquette.

835
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,435 
That's all.

836
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,956 
So be mindful of the glance,
and the bow.

837
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,436 
But I won't fix my mistake
on that long dialogue.

838
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,315 
That's my own blunder
I'll have to live with.

839
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,557 
Thank you.

840
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,272 
- It's so hard.
- It is.

841
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,794 
- I'll do this from now.
- Me, too.

842
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,632 
Boy, that's tough.

843
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,597 
Lately, Miyazaki has said

844
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,918 
that he's having trouble
drawing the Zero.

845
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,317 
This is where all
the deceased fly by.

846
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,755 
I know I shouldn't glorify them,

847
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,596 
but they really were cool planes.

848
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,992 
What to do?

849
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,630 
I thought he was
too attached to them.

850
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,110 
Maybe intimidated by them.

851
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,359 
But I asked him and he said
he just can't draw them.

852
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,358 
I guess it's hard even for him.

853
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:02,636 
When I pressed him with a pointed
question about the plane,

854
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:07,038 
I sensed that he got
sort of annoyed.

855
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,513 
I didn't want him to
get really angry at me,

856
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:19,671 
so I decided to shut up and
just draw what's on the layout.

857
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,875 
Maybe I'm an eccentric.

858
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:25,711 
Not a typical plane fanatic.

859
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,438 
Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
Not a typical plane fanatic.

860
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:29,908 
Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person

861
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,070 
Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
I don't like Zero fanatics.

862
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,552 
They're otakus, it's a fetish.

863
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:40,749 
They just obsessed over it.

864
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,919 
Otakus don't ever learn anything.

865
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,712 
- So you're not an otaku?
- No, I'm not.

866
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,076 
- Vroom!
- That's a quick ascent.

867
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,551 
- An Immelmann turn.
- Right.

868
01:08:58,440 --> 01:08:59,919 
Oops, the propeller fell.

869
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,872 
That was over 8 seconds.

870
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,598 
You'll live long.

871
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,752 
I don't want to live
a long life as an invalid.

872
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,111 
Not that kind of long life.

873
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,438 
I see people like that,
I wish they'd just go.

874
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,552 
Like, " No need to hang on.
Go ahead and die."

875
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:27,629 
"Just go!"

876
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,638 
No struggle, you'll just
croak one day.

877
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,591 
Miya-san has so much energy.

878
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,279 
He really does.

879
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,114 
He's really good at
taking care of himself.

880
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,319 
His health?

881
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,158 
Have you noticed?

882
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,636 
He really protects himself.

883
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,308 
But I've seen him in tatters.

884
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,475 
No, he's...

885
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,318 
- Acting?
- Yup.

886
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,590 
He does it instinctively.

887
01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:03,109 
He's a genius at making
others' energy his own.

888
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,471 
- Takahata-san, too.
- Right.

889
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,315 
- Always been that way.
- Yup.

890
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,154 
Don't fall for it.

891
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,349 
Scary.

892
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,518 
For Miya-san, his staff
are like his pawns.

893
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,152 
Is that right?

894
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:25,631 
In trying to meet
Miyazaki-san's demands,

895
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,674 
there are some people
who get worn out.

896
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,678 
Unable to meet his demands,

897
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,189 
some people kind of
lose their motivation

898
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,678 
and lose hope, thinking
they failed, you know?

899
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,872 
I guess it's really difficult

900
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,355 
to work with someone like him.

901
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,198 
You might think
talented people do fine,

902
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,552 
but some talented people
have quit here, too,

903
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,034 
because it's tough.

904
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:08,036 
The more talented you are,
the more he demands.

905
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,390 
This may sound ungrateful,
but if you want...

906
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,388 
to protect yourself,
you may want to stay away.

907
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,350 
Maybe it's worth it
if you're willing...

908
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,077 
to sacrifice yourself
to gain something

909
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:31,070 
or you just really want
to work with him.

910
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,599 
But if there's anything in you
that you want to protect,

911
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,071 
you may not want to be
around him long.

912
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:48,557 
It's not because I'm too
attached to Zeros, you know.

913
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,273 
It's difficult for me.

914
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:01,268 
All these emotions
jostling around inside.

915
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,273 
What is it?

916
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,118 
What is it? What is it?

917
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,276 
What is it? What is it? What is it?

918
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,114 
Not this.

919
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,955 
He asks for the impossible.

920
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:22,274 
It's not really about how
the Zeros actually flew.

921
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:28,473 
He has a picture in his head
of how he wishes Zeros flew.

922
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:33,314 
How could another person
ever hope to draw that?

923
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,159 
It's impossible.

924
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,954 
That's the issue.

925
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,993 
This Zero in his head,

926
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,079 
how can anyone see
how beautifully it flies.

927
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:52,316 
If that's what he's after,
no matter who draws it,

928
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,792 
he'll never nod "yes" .

929
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,149 
Can't draw it.

930
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,669 
Miya-san has this idealism in him.

931
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,630 
He's a fascinating man.

932
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:05,993 
He should just draw it.

933
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,668 
But he's got this fantasy

934
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,599 
that his younger self
could draw this.

935
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,792 
But personally, I think
it would've been the same.

936
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,354 
Basically, he expects perfection.

937
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,679 
He's an idealist.

938
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,676 
That's impressive,
after all these years.

939
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,558 
I have to take sleeping pills.

940
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,035 
How else can I sleep?

941
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,158 
Phew...

942
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,877 
I'm actually very manic-depressive.

943
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,872 
Today's over with.

944
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,034 
I should draw better tomorrow.

945
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,512 
I'm bummed, though.

946
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,513 
Dammit.

947
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,268 
I don't even know if
we have a movie here.

948
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,517 
I really don't know, to be honest.

949
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,839 
But the film will not
wait for its director.

950
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,678 
13:00 - Anno

951
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,199 
I see everyone's nervous,
so I'll relax.

952
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,675 
- Please do.
- I will.

953
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,514 
Good luck.

954
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,109 
You, there.
Come, take my seat.

955
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,516 
Pardon me. Please.

956
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,116 
Let's try the next scene.

957
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:25,515 
What about your luggage?

958
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,188 
Don't let your voice trail off.

959
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,033 
What about your luggage?

960
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,990 
Right.

961
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,868 
You, there.
Come, take my seat.

962
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:36,839 
Pardon me.

963
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,516 
It's okay.

964
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:42,675 
Sounding good?

965
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,397 
We'll see about that.

966
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,239 
You, there.
Come, take my seat.

967
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,239 
Pardon me.

968
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,237 
What do you think?

969
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,359 
Thank you.

970
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,875 
Thank you.

971
01:16:58,440 --> 01:16:59,395 
Losing energy.

972
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,589 
Thank you.

973
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,069 
Thank you.

974
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,189 
Thank you.

975
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,199 
That one was good.

976
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,230 
It's promising.

977
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:11,190 
It'll work?

978
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,072 
We'll see about that.

979
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,756 
Well, let's see how it goes.

980
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:20,192 
An earthquake... Tremors...

981
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,595 
An earthquake, earthquake.

982
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:23,996 
An earthquake!

983
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,713 
Come rest upstairs.

984
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,115 
No, he'll start chiding me.

985
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,117 
I'll bring some coffee.

986
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,275 
Will it work?

987
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:36,597 
I think so, if we're
willing to go all in.

988
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,038 
- I actually feel relieved.
- Great.

989
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,798 
You should come upstairs.
You're getting high marks.

990
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:48,595 
I won't fall for that.

991
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,436 
No, really, you don't have to worry.

992
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,911 
He's fun to bully.

993
01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:01,317 
Miyazaki received a letter
from an unfamiliar man

994
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,518 
two months before
the film's completion.

995
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,357 
I got a letter the other day.

996
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,870 
During the war, I was evacuated
to Utsunomiya for a time.

997
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,357 
This man lived in the neighborhood

998
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,195 
and he's 4 years older, 76 now.

999
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,514 
The area was on fire
and his home burned down,

1000
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,473 
while our home somehow survived.

1001
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,070 
The fire died down,
but he lost his home,

1002
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,238 
and they happened to
find our house.

1003
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:38,671 
And since no one was home,

1004
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:44,557 
apparently they sat down just
inside the front door to rest.

1005
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,236 
Suddenly, my father came home.

1006
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,237 
They apologized, but
he said, " It's fine."

1007
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:56,228 
Father went in to get
something, came back,

1008
01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:58,874 
and gave them chocolates.

1009
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,071 
Chocolates were rare then.

1010
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,919 
How did he get them?

1011
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,429 
I don't remember getting any.

1012
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,712 
I guess he had them stashed away.

1013
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:17,359 
It left a deep impression on him.
So that's what he wrote me about.

1014
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,709 
It's very much like
my father to do that.

1015
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,271 
Being welcomed instead of
being chased out

1016
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:34,429 
probably shaped the way
this man looked at the world.

1017
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:38,630 
My father was 28 then.

1018
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,559 
I was glad to hear this.

1019
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,799 
I want to reply to him,
but I don't know how.

1020
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:52,472 
Meanwhile, my father got rich
selling airplane parts.

1021
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,956 
Talk about a contradiction.

1022
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,798 
I used to argue with him,
saying he supported the war.

1023
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,632 
But he gave the kid chocolate.

1024
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,311 
It was nice to hear.

1025
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,156 
Fate is funny, isn't it?

1026
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,512 
Paku-san walked two days
and no one gave him anything.

1027
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,790 
Not even potato vines.

1028
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,839 
Look what happened to him.

1029
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,157 
Is Takahata-san progressing?

1030
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,199 
I mean...

1031
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,359 
Who knows.

1032
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,316 
Like he doesn't want to finish it.

1033
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,833 
At least Miya-san wants to finish.

1034
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,519 
That's true.

1035
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,838 
Takahata-san is incomprehensible.

1036
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,708 
Does he not want to finish it?

1037
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:02,835 
Miyazaki mentioned Paku-san
at least once a day.

1038
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,989 
Sometimes he praised him...

1039
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:11,238 
Heidi is Paku-san's masterpiece.

1040
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,389 
Given all the restrictions
in animation then,

1041
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,160 
he did everything he could.

1042
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,069 
Not only that,
he accomplished so much.

1043
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,398 
Sometimes he said the opposite.

1044
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,196 
He's got a personality disorder.
That's Paku-san, okay?

1045
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,553 
It's a mystery.

1046
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,554 
He must have something special.

1047
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,750 
I do think that what Takahata-san does
is really stimulating.

1048
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,439 
It has appeal.

1049
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:50,353 
Japanese people have a tendency
to flock to whatever is popular,

1050
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,917 
but you always need
some kind of antithesis.

1051
01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:00,112 
Who is light and who is shadow,
I don't know.

1052
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,599 
He's always been the catalyst.

1053
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:06,590 
He discovered Hayao Miyazaki,

1054
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,594 
he discovered Joe Hisaishi,

1055
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,189 
which led to their partnership.

1056
01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:17,230 
He's the one who taught...
or rather, mentored Suzuki.

1057
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:22,553 
Without Isao Takahata,
Studio Ghibli wouldn't exist.

1058
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,433 
Miyazaki may have still
made his mark,

1059
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,632 
but it wouldn't have been
with Studio Ghibli.

1060
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,312 
Don't just film.
I came here to show you.

1061
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:44,715 
Are you okay?

1062
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,718 
If I hang from this, will it break?

1063
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,198 
Who knows, seems like it might.

1064
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,794 
It's interesting.

1065
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,558 
You know, sometimes I might think...

1066
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,639 
about the world ending or something.

1067
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,354 
I'd never say that to a child.

1068
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,231 
This is important.

1069
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,908 
Children are what keep me going.

1070
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,030 
Not any particular child,
children in general.

1071
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,558 
In December, we bring out the goats.

1072
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,234 
The kids remember them.

1073
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:24,908 
When they're gone, they notice.

1074
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,198 
Kids really remember things, you see.

1075
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,918 
Problems begin
the moment we're born.

1076
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,909 
We're born with
infinite possibilities,

1077
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,918 
only to give up on
one after another.

1078
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,875 
To choose one thing means
to give up on another.

1079
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,277 
That's inevitable.

1080
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,230 
But what can you do?
That's what it is to live.

1081
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,274 
Looking happy, right?

1082
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:15,956 
Or no?

1083
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,798 
Who, you?

1084
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,911 
At this moment.

1085
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:21,473 
This moment...

1086
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,117 
It's the last shot.

1087
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,475 
Are you happy?

1088
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:30,430 
Nope.

1089
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,437 
I'd been wondering.

1090
01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:35,789 
Taken away by Nahoko,

1091
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,230 
will Jiro go on to die?

1092
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,997 
She says "You must live,"
so he's not going to die.

1093
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,952 
I changed the ending.

1094
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,591 
Not like in the storyboard.

1095
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,830 
Nahoko says "ikite (live)"
instead of "kite (come)".

1096
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,757 
So after all that anguish,

1097
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,270 
I finally have the line.

1098
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,312 
Isn't animation fascinating?

1099
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,195 
Nahoko...

1100
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,358 
She's been waiting here
for a long time.

1101
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,675 
Darling, you must live.

1102
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,308 
You must live...

1103
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,556 
She is gone.

1104
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,394 
She was beautiful, like the wind.

1105
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,394 
Thank you.

1106
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,234 
Thank you.

1107
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,190 
You must live.

1108
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,915 
First, shall we drop by my house?
I have some excellent wine.

1109
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,438 
Okay, thank you.

1110
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:49,394 
Miyazaki finally wrote the letter
he'd been meaning to write.

1111
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,753 
"Thank you for the letter and book.

1112
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,428 
"I should've replied immediately,

1113
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,468 
"but was delayed as I got
caught up with work.

1114
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,958 
"I apologize.

1115
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:12,959 
"Your letter brought back memories
of the night of the air raids.

1116
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,752 
"That night, when my mother woke me,

1117
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,317 
"the window was aglow
as if from sunset.

1118
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,990 
"My brother and I put our legs
in a ditch under a bridge,

1119
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,148 
"and mats were propped up
to protect us.

1120
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,668 
"It was so hot and painful
that I sometimes wonder

1121
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,795 
"how we managed to survive or
not lose our house in the fire.

1122
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,157 
"Eventually we were freed
from the pressure

1123
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,670 
"and my father, brother and I
sat in the back of a truck.

1124
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,669 
"A mother with a little girl
asked to join us,

1125
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:02,352 
"and the fact we left them behind
has haunted me for many years.

1126
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,676 
"My mother has also said
something similar.

1127
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,949 
"But I feel no anger
toward my father.

1128
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,357 
"Just a thorn in my heart.

1129
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:24,035 
"The chocolate story is very much
like my father, my wife says.

1130
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,629 
"That's the kind of man he was.

1131
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,152 
"When climbing up the riverbank,

1132
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,713 
"my uncle took one brother
while my mother took another.

1133
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,833 
"My father held a bag in one hand

1134
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,871 
"and carried me in the other,

1135
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,039 
"slipping many times as he
tried to climb the embankment.

1136
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:50,398 
"He apologized each time he slipped.

1137
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:56,720 
"I thought I could climb on my own,
but I kept my mouth shut.

1138
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,031 
"My father was...

1139
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,915 
"desperately trying to protect
his family, I believe.

1140
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,751 
"Thank you very much for the letter.

1141
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,873 
"I feel like I've
rediscovered my father.

1142
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,076 
"Thank you.

1143
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,438 
"Hayao Miyazaki"

1144
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,958 
I'm a Japanese boy.

1145
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:56,318 
I think this is my dream.

1146
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:15,197 
Come on! You can do it!

1147
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,159 
The Wind Rises

1148
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:12,679 
Thanks.

1149
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,673 
- Thank you.
- You did a great job.

1150
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:17,793 
Thank you.

1151
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,757 
- Thanks for everything.
- What a long process!

1152
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,837 
Suzuki-san's hip is gone.

1153
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,471 
I'm so glad.

1154
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,148 
So glad it was Anno.

1155
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,677 
We managed to finish.

1156
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,635 
We sure did... somehow.

1157
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,029 
What'll Miya-san do now?

1158
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,036 
Maybe he'll do one more.

1159
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:52,355 
You think?

1160
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:53,788 
Feels like he could.

1161
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,991 
No, I've had enough!

1162
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,354 
One more?

1163
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,038 
I liked seeing Miya-san's
sudden turnabout.

1164
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,671 
- He avoided death.
- Right.

1165
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,518 
I was really glad.

1166
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,315 
He was going to have him die,
then somehow,

1167
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,312 
he shifted toward living.

1168
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,397 
That's what he was feeling.

1169
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,313 
I'm genuinely happy.

1170
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,159 
We were close to having a film...

1171
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,398 
in which everyone ends up dying.

1172
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,717 
At least Jiro manages to live.

1173
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,912 
Right, it's a different story now.

1174
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,078 
He needs to keep living.

1175
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,234 
I'm glad it ended that way.

1176
01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:46,911 
He even added that line,
"You must live."

1177
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,198 
It's a heavy thing
to be told, though.

1178
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:55,269 
Well, I'll do my part.

1179
01:35:57,480 --> 01:36:00,358 
- That's the message.
- I know.

1180
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,198 
"The rest is up to you."

1181
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:05,591 
Right. I'll do my best.

1182
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,275 
Long time, no see.

1183
01:36:37,480 --> 01:36:39,630 
- Been a while.
- Right?

1184
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,150 
I heard you'll be gone a while.

1185
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:44,793 
I'm here next week.

1186
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,793 
- But still running around.
- I see.

1187
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,991 
Or sleeping, maybe.

1188
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,479 
Sorry, I'm looking for change.

1189
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:55,758 
No smaller coins.

1190
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:58,750 
Almost done.

1191
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,837 
Sure, but I'm burnt out.

1192
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,076 
Oh, you must be tired.

1193
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,996 
How old are you?

1194
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,995 
Uh, seventy... two, 72.

1195
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,949 
The same age as my mother.

1196
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:14,957 
Your mother doing well?

1197
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:16,991 
- Never better.
- I'm short.

1198
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,633 
Oh, it's okay.

1199
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,990 
- Here's another 100.
- It's okay.

1200
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,356 
Anno hasn't changed at all.

1201
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,832 
Not in a bad sense.

1202
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,192 
"You haven't changed.
Still the same."

1203
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,153 
That's Nahoko's line,
but it's true.

1204
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,953 
Except for his tummy.

1205
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:36,995 
There's something mystical.

1206
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,193 
Ah, well...

1207
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,797 
What do you mean, mystical?

1208
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,190 
I dunno, human ties, maybe.

1209
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,039 
Human ties, or fate or something.

1210
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,397 
They're things beyond comprehension.

1211
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,670 
You can't just create it.

1212
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,556 
New employees from
Nippon TVare visiting.

1213
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,238 
Look at this group.

1214
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,236 
Why was Nausica broadcast on NTV?

1215
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:26,357 
Tokuma Shoten's president then
was Yasuyoshi Tokuma,

1216
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:32,911 
and the man who later became
NTV's president was Seiichiro Ujiie.

1217
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:34,678 
You've heard his name?

1218
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,078 
Basically, the two were
very good friends.

1219
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,553 
That's the only reason.

1220
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:48,114 
That's when we met Seiji Okuda,
who became our main guy at NTV.

1221
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:53,953 
Now, I don't know if you're all
aware of this, but Ghibli films...

1222
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:58,950 
only air on NTV. Why is that?
Can you tell us?

1223
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:02,948 
We value friends, I guess.

1224
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:08,268 
I don't know if the term
"friends" is appropriate,

1225
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,278 
but at Ghibli we do value
human relationships.

1226
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:18,470 
It's not about just working
with market share leaders.

1227
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,750 
Here's an extreme example.

1228
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:26,476 
Only slightly exaggerated.
Okuda became our NTV contact.

1229
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,077 
Since then,

1230
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:35,276 
for the 20 years or so that
he's worked with Ghibli,

1231
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,632 
he has visited us every night.

1232
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,310 
Never talked about work.

1233
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,079 
But we talked about
lots of different things,

1234
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,756 
which led to talking
about family, naturally.

1235
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,154 
That's what gave birth
to Spirited Away.

1236
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,838 
When Okuda's daughter turned ten,

1237
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:07,352 
Miyazaki had a cabin
in the mountains,

1238
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,279 
and he invited them there.

1239
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,791 
So they spent some time there.

1240
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:19,039 
That experience is what motivated
Miyazaki to make Spirited Away.

1241
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,957 
I'll say this,
based on my experience.

1242
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,719 
In your work, obviously,
you'll meet many people.

1243
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,712 
But ultimately, it's about
who you work with.

1244
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,549 
Only those who choose
the right people to work with

1245
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,797 
will be able to do
the work they want.

1246
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:49,714 
Sankichi is pregnant.

1247
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,035 
I've heard.

1248
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,395 
I'm the last to know?

1249
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,876 
Well, she had her reasons.

1250
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,559 
She was waiting.

1251
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,318 
But she's 3 months in.

1252
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,516 
She's known for a while.

1253
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:03,391 
Oh, really?

1254
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,910 
She felt she shouldn't
tell you then.

1255
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,398 
The last shot is done.

1256
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,554 
Thank you, everyone.

1257
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,598 
I guess the end warrants applause.

1258
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,430 
Clap for yourselves.
Good job, everyone!

1259
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,238 
After finishing all his work,

1260
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,791 
Miyazaki headed for
the rooftop as usual.

1261
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,909 
Who should be waiting there...

1262
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,709 
but Paku-san, who's never here.

1263
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,632 
The flip side of the story is,

1264
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,991 
if I hadn't met Miyazaki,
I wouldn't be here.

1265
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:51,796 
If I hadn't come
across his talent,

1266
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,192 
everything would be
completely different.

1267
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,949 
Along the same lines,
when we met Toshio Suzuki,

1268
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,196 
that brought a lot, too.

1269
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,519 
Teaming with someone
talented like Miya-san

1270
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,474 
allowed me to make good films.

1271
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,832 
Without talented people,
you can't make good films.

1272
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,718 
When I joined Toei Animation,

1273
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,878 
I met lots of people,
including Takahata,

1274
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,548 
but not just him, many people.

1275
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,830 
They taught me so many things,

1276
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,554 
hammered away at my weaknesses,

1277
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,558 
and really forced me to grow.

1278
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,399 
I even got roped into
union activism.

1279
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,714 
I said I didn't want
to get involved,

1280
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,673 
but they insisted,
saying I know how to talk.

1281
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,348 
Suddenly, I had responsibilities.

1282
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,558 
So it meant a lot to
meet Paku-san then.

1283
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,358 
Sometimes he'd be asleep
during crucial moments.

1284
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,918 
We'd try to wake him up for
a union dispute, but no.

1285
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:06,397 
As we grew older, we got
more stubborn and jaded,

1286
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:10,428 
and we started to clash more,
but as Paku-san has said,

1287
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,596 
we really were partners.

1288
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:20,110 
There was a time when we both
had passion for our work.

1289
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,593 
And I'm really glad we had that.

1290
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,076 
We gave it everything
we had. Everything.

1291
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,434 
It's front-page news today.

1292
01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:00,914 
And they quote you
from that article.

1293
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,476 
Well, good.

1294
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,433 
This may impact the election.

1295
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,795 
- The reaction is mixed?
- Yes.

1296
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:15,639 
Well, what can you do?
If Suzuki-san gets stabbed,

1297
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,076 
I'll go and die with him.

1298
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,959 
Takahata-san will be stabbed, too.

1299
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:27,194 
But I'm glad they mentioned
the constitutional reform.

1300
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,193 
Hayao Miyazaki says
"Leave Constitution Alone"
But I'm glad they mentioned
the constitutional reform.

1301
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:31,349 
Hayao Miyazaki says
"Leave Constitution Alone"

1302
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:39,589 
This notion that one's goal
in life is to be happy,

1303
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,677 
that your own happiness
is the goal...

1304
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,829 
I just don't buy it.

1305
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:52,198 
Because...
What do you think?

1306
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,029 
Do you think your goal is
to become happy yourself?

1307
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,870 
I mean, happiness is...

1308
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:07,039 
I've heard that from several
people now and I wonder...

1309
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,989 
is that what postwar democracy
has amounted to?

1310
01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,557 
I don't get it, so I'm curious.

1311
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,037 
What about Suzuki-san?

1312
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,397 
He can't be doing this
for his own happiness.

1313
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,990 
So why does he do it?

1314
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,071 
Do you work for your own happiness?

1315
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,870 
I don't ever feel happy
in my daily life.

1316
01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:38,874 
Really, isn't that how it is?

1317
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,072 
How could that ever be
our ultimate goal?

1318
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,589 
Filmmaking only brings suffering.

1319
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:46,390 
Suffering?

1320
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,756 
Absolutely. Right?

1321
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,748 
She knows, she's seen me.

1322
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,230 
"It took so long!" she said.

1323
01:46:55,480 --> 01:46:57,038 
It really was long.

1324
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:01,068 
Can't believe I actually
want to do another one.

1325
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,435 
For the staff screening,

1326
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,595 
Miyazaki chose to take
the train to the venue.

1327
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,678 
Thank you, everyone.

1328
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:13,518 
This is embarrassing,

1329
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,992 
but this is the first time
I cried at my own film.

1330
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:43,639 
Okay, let's go.

1331
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,198 
The Wind Rises Wrap Party

1332
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,273 
The Wind Rises
SOLD OUT

1333
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:19,672 
Hayao Miyazaki to Retire

1334
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,994 
It was cloudy that day.

1335
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,358 
Miyazaki was talkative as usual,

1336
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,877 
but he said nothing
about his retirement.

1337
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:58,230 
Soon, Suzuki drove us to the hotel
for the press conference.

1338
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:04,031 
Just before the conference
was about to begin...

1339
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,872 
See him watering his plants?

1340
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:15,589 
I see him.

1341
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,840 
He has no idea we're watching him.

1342
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:20,839 
Look over there.

1343
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:26,195 
See that house with
all the ivy on it?

1344
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,596 
From that rooftop,

1345
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,237 
what if you leapt
onto the next rooftop,

1346
01:52:33,480 --> 01:52:37,439 
dashed over to that
blue and green wall,

1347
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,677 
jumped up and climbed up the pipe,

1348
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,559 
ran across the roof and
jumped to the next?

1349
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,438 
You can, in animation.

1350
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:50,713 
If you can walk the cable,
you could see the other side.

1351
01:52:51,480 --> 01:52:53,710 
When you look from above,

1352
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,879 
so many things reveal
themselves to you.

1353
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,273 
Maybe race along the concrete wall.

1354
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:06,951 
Suddenly, there in your
humdrum town is a magical movie.

1355
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,957 
Isn't it fun to see things that way?

1356
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,479 
Feels like you could go
somewhere far beyond.

1357
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:17,798 
Maybe you can.

1358
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:26,794 
No, I'm not nervous.

1359
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,759 
- Is that right?
- Yes.

1360
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,669 
- Okay, we'll begin.
- Please.

1361
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,311 
After the conference,

1362
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:07,275 
I asked what he'd written
on that paper he had.

1363
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,871 
He showed it to me.

1364
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:15,039 
It was his official
retirement statement.

1365
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,470 
This was the first sentence:

1366
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:28,635 
"I hope to work for ten more years."

1367
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:37,313 
Hello, please allow me
to observe you working.

1368
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:28,955 
Produced by Nobuo Kawakami
DWANGO

1369
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:34,955 
Music by Masakatsu Takagi

1370
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:17,349 


1371
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:23,349 


1372
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:45,753 
Screenplay, Cinematography, Editing
and Directed by Mami Sunada


