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Shepard Fairey takes advantage of the idea that art can rival advertisements -

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so for me it's not art.

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- He is famous for his plagiarism 
- It's vandalism.

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He breaks important thoughts.
- He is a genius.

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- He is charged with criminal behavior. </ P>

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It's all a very empty experience. </ P>

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- He is our current Warhol.
He is predictable. </ P>

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- He has renewed the political image.
- He is a wallpaper artist. </ P>

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- He has fewer and fewer followers.
- He created an icon. </ P>

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André the Giant was a bluff number.
It meant nothing. </ P>

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Shepard Fairey is so far
from an artist you can come .

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The world is not as beautiful as
in songs from The Carpenters and Wings.

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I grew up in the 70s,
and when I felt frustrated -

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- there was no creative response to it.

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But When I heard Sex Pistols
and The Clash singing about frustration...

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They were angry like the Black Flag,
but it was not for the sake of the wound.

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Protest against conformity, oppression and abuse of power. </ P>

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It touched me because I grew up
in a very conformist city -

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- and went on 



So I was frustrated.

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All that I did not get out of was
expressed through punk rock -

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- but also through the skateboard

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It was about using the urban landscape
in an alternative way -

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- and it's aggressive.

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I was inspired
of tape posters and of graffiti.

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Graffiti is about letters
and about spraying its name.

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- Colors, design, style and technique.
- Release it.

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<p </ P>

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The technique behind the graffiti -

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- one to perform their works 
in wild places completely anonymously -

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- to say "I exist."
I loved it.

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- I'm looking for the graffiti artist.
- We are all! </ P>

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I had seen movies
like "Breakin & apos;" and "Beat Street".

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I thought you should be black
and join a gang -

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- and practice the paper before <br / > could show it. A kind of art strap. </ P>

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Street art er et offentligt udtryk,
og det demokratiserer kunsten.

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It makes the art available,
and the public space is for more -

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- than just advertising
and government campaign signs.

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That means everything,

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This was especially true before the Internet,
for the recognition you received -

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- was based solely on the audience's first hand experience.

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- What do you set up?
- Some Giant posters.

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- Who is it? 
- André the Giant. </ P>

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Why that? </ P>

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Today we receive André the Giant,
who is the world's largest man. </ P>

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Where Are you from André?

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Do you really speak English?

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Where do you come from?

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It does not concern you.

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My first work was "André the
Giant has a Posse" stickers.

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At that time, I worked
in a skateboard store -

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- and I

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I had to teach a friend
to make stencils.

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I saw a picture of André the Giant
and said to him, "Use it."

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He said, "No," and I replied:
"Andrés & pos; takes over."

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We listened much to Ice-T,
Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, NWA -

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- and all used word "posse".

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I made some stickers,
and it was supposed to be a joke.

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I put them up in the skate parks,
at some nightclubs and signs.

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For a party I saw a guy who had
put it on the front of his cap -

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I asked him:
"Does the sticker have a meaning?"

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- and I could see paint stains
so he had pilled it down. > He replied, "I do not know
but I think it's cool." </ P>

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I realized very fast,
that although it was completely silly -

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It was spreading,
and the affected people.

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What the hell are you doing?

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I had seen Bob Dobbs 
Church of the SubGenius. </ P>

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A guy in the 50s with a pipe.
I wanted to know what that meant. </ P>

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I wanted to go to it. </

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I could feel 
that it would spread by like-minded people -

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- and that's the same with the André sticker.

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Men folk reagerede meget forskelligt.

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Someone wrote at the bottom
on a sticker: "Nazi wine."

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All painters, poets and musicians -

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- trying to catch attention. <br / > This is the nature of art. </ P>

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"André the Giant has a posse" -

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- Did not mean anything.
It was just cool. </ P> p> There must be some sect.
There is no obvious sense of it.

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The word "posse" led the minds to the skater culture -

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- and young people who formed
music and art communities.

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But it also acted deeply -

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- how we unconsciously associate ourselves with flows.

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This is my propaganda.
Many people use models instead.

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It makes a product attractive by
connecting it with a beautiful person.

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Man gør et produkt attraktivt ved at
forbinde det med en smuk person.

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I do not want to be as clear.

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One day I stood in a store next to a couple -

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- and the girl says, "Have you seen

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"Yes," says the guy.
"What's this about?" she asks.

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"It's a band," but she says:
"No, it's something with skaters." </ P>

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"No, that's a band.
I've heard them."

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He simply found it.
It's fascinating -

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- People trust their instincts
and want to fight for their ideas.

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A newspaper in Providence printed an André sticker.

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They wrote: "Who knows
what the sticker is about -"

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- get free tickets for a concert
at The Living Room. "

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I saw Jane's Addiction,
The Ramones and Suicidal Tendencies.

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I wanted the tickets,
but I would not reveal myself -

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- So I put some in an envelope
along with a letter saying:

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"Sorry, I can not uncover it
but here you get some stickers. "

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The week after, the sticker came back
with my letter, and they wrote:

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" No one has answered, but now we know
how the handwriting looks

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In two weeks, the sticker was shown in 30,000 copies of the paper.

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It was 15 times more than on the street.

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It made me think 
that the American media industry -

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- makes things seem more powerful and powerful -

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- and more relevant and more important
by making awareness.

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At that time I still went to college
and did school projects.

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I worked in the skate shop

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- and for the clothing branded
Jobless Anti-Work Wear.

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They were one of the first
street wear companies.

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One of my prints,
for which I received $ 50 -

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- they sold
for over ten thousand copies. </ P>

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It was the image from "The Shining ",
where Jack says," Here's Johnny. "</ P>

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I wrote" All work and no play makers
Jack a dull boy "on the typewriter -

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It got immediate success,
and that was great for me -

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- for then I realized that I was good at it.

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We knew he was artistic.
Our neighbor, who was an art teacher -

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- said: "He's incredibly gifted.
You should not teach him." <

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You want to destroy him.
Just let him develop it.

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My friends at Porter-Gaud did not belong 
either they were cool or nerded.

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To be cool, you should be 
sportfreak, and I did not.

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But I'd rather not be bored
like the nerds.

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You got hot if you had 
Toughskins jeans and not Levi's -

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-or did not go with polo shirts. </ P>

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My parents refused categorically
to 


I said, "I know that."

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But I needed to make money for that kind.

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I was forced to go
with a suit and tie at school -

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- but I rebelled using
my father's ugly 70er slip.

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They looked like someone had broken them.

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"I agree to wear tie
but they should be ugly."

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p> He had started skating and only wanted to make the things that he himself decided.

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I did not think anyone understood me

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We sat down and said to him:
"Okay, this does not work."

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p>

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"You will decide,
and we will allow you."

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He said he would be an artist -

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Instead of 14 minutes a day
he worked for 14 hours.

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He made a folder and entered
at the Rhode Island School of Design.

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<

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In South Carolina, watercolors, 
painted coal or oil paint -

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were the only approved art.

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But at the art school I learned about Jasper Johns. </ P>

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Duchamp and Rauschenberg. </ P>

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Andy Warhol and Barbara Kruger. </ P>

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And an unknown artist ,
who had posted posters -

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- with a picture of Ronald Reagan,
where there was "Contra" -

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- and "Diction" with bold letters on a yellow background, and I thought:

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"It's a message to Reagan
in line with Dead Kennedy's protests."

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clever and a little humorous,
but well painted. "

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I want people to think
and entertain them in everyday life.

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It just contained it all.

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Please. </ P>

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Robbie Conal's work was a turning point for me. </ P>

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Robbie Conal calls his art
" 

A guerrilla war is being outpoured.

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I just wanted to participate in the debate
about topics such as "democracy"

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I just put it up and hope that it gives substance for thought -

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- so people begin to think about who
who the old, ugly man is.

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It was deliberately illegal as a kind of civil disobedience.

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"It is the Iran-Contra affair
against my little offenses."

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"Just hold me
if you can find me."

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"Anhold mig bare,
hvis I kan finde mig."

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This was Providence -

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- before a new young mayor's visions prevented a complete decay.

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The young mayor was Buddy Cianci.

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I took an illustration course
in the fall of 1990 -

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- and I would do something special.

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On an advertising sign where you could see Cianci wow, stood there:

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"He really loves Providence."
I thought it was idiotic.

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There was nothing about his policy.

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p> Then I stuck his face
over with a big André image.

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Then I photographed it
and handed it as a task.

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I got to know that my advertising sign
on South Main Street -

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- was covered
by André the Giant sticker.

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You can not get a better advertisement .

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The day after, everyone came with beer to me.
They said, "Great! Cheers for you!"

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In addition, the press in Providence 
was completely shocked by it -

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- because everyone tried
to get an opinion out of the sign.

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"Does Cianci mean brutal?"

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Only a few people actually knew 

That's not about Cianci.

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But size is important.
So, stick from a sticker -

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- to a huge advertising sign 
really put it in the debate.

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Cianci said, "It costs me money.
What should we do about it?"

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I do not know if he 

But it seemed because we won the election.

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We are going back to the town hall!

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But I should take care not to conduct the
debate in an unwanted direction.

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I had not read
about the other politicians' views.

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If it had actually hurt Cianci,
which was not the case -

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have been crushed
over my carelessness.

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I realized I could not just
make things for my own pleasure.

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That kind of can have consequences.

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/ p>

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In the summer of 1990, I got a used
Caprice Classic with wood paneling -

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- like the Griswold family.

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It was not in very good condition, < br /> but I could drive to Boston.

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Then I started driving to New York.

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"Father's cool vacation."

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But they did not take my box
with stickers.

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I quickly started
to set stencils.

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The light poles were the perfect size
for a stencil template by André.

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I had a backpack

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and some glue to the stancil template.

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I put a lot of stencils up.

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I am

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If you are taken, be polite.

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I never considered
about my street Certain did not like it because it was illegal, and it annoyed me.

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Street art was not so popular.
It was illegal. was not as "real" -

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- or even subcultural rarely
such as graffiti.

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- eller lige så subkulturelt i sjælden
som for eksempel graffiti.

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Men Shepard imponerede
en masse skeptikere.

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People who thought that street art
was only for flippers of art.

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Alleged was the only gallery,
as exhibited works -

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-

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Underground music, graffiti,
street art and skater culture.

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In the early 90's graffiti linked the hiphop culture

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Breakdance and Band Culture.

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Although there were skaters in New York,
it came from the west coast.

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The division in street art and graffiti
originated first -

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- when they joined together.
That's why it was an important time.

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When I met Shepard, <br

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But he impressed me
so he was allowed to exhibit with me -

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- and with Aaron Rose.

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Shepard did his best
to get works -

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- but it was still hobby work
and homemade things.

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He made stickers at that time, <

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- than all other young skaters
from the east coast at that time.

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But his marks were everywhere, <br /

230
00:21:46,068 --> 00:21:51,406
I had posters and a manifesto that hung on the wall of the gallery.

231
00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:55,952
It describes many of my thoughts -

232
00:21:56,036 --> 00:22:01,458
- About group psychology
and conformance versus rebellion.

233
00:22:01,541 --> 00:22:07,297
Many of my ideas about art today
are found in this short manifesto -

234
00:22:07,381 --> 00:22:09,883
wrote as a 20 year old.

235
00:22:09,966 --> 00:22:14,388
Many artists attempted to break down the visual language -

236
00:22:14,471 --> 00:22:18,433
- and undermine persuasion.

237
00:22:19,351 --> 00:22:26,316
Artists like Thomas Campbell,
Phil Frost, Mike Mills and Futura...

238
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,487
They were important people
on New York's art scene.

239
00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:37,035
If I could get a seat there,
I could possibly live by it.

240
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,165
I went out of school
and I struggled to survive.

241
00:22:42,249 --> 00:22:47,045
My parents were constantly following me
to find a "real" job. </ P>

242
00:22:47,129 --> 00:22:51,008
I drove a small workshop -

243
00:22:51,091 --> 00:22:56,930
- where I made my stuff
and things for bands did not go well.

244
00:22:57,014 --> 00:23:03,228
But the attention of people
in New York made me believe in it.

245
00:23:05,689 --> 00:23:12,195
In spite of André the Giant, I was 
Completely uninterrupted in wrestling.

246
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:15,574
I did it just by some kind...

247
00:23:15,657 --> 00:23:20,620
You may call it
for a creative strike.

248
00:23:20,704 --> 00:23:26,710
But to use a reference,
as people associate with one thing -

249
00:23:26,793 --> 00:23:32,257
- and use it for something else
is provocative and I love it.

250
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:40,724
Gradually, you could sense
some kind of fear of images -

251
00:23:40,807 --> 00:23:46,229
- as if it were a fine
or something to be afraid of.

252
00:23:46,313 --> 00:23:49,775
So I decided to use -

253
00:23:49,858 --> 00:23:55,572
- an orwell image language 
a la "big brother see you".

254
00:23:55,656 --> 00:24:01,411
To maintain the energy of my art
I created

255
00:24:01,495 --> 00:24:05,415
It was a completely symmetrical, cropped -

256
00:24:05,499 --> 00:24:10,337
- and very stylized version
of the André face.

257
00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:16,385
Then I did the face of the star,
and it got an incredible resonance.

258
00:24:16,468 --> 00:24:22,557
This is pure propaganda.
"Do what you want and take drugs."

259
00:24:22,641 --> 00:24:25,894
"Det kan vi lide,
for vi er satanister."

260
00:24:25,978 --> 00:24:30,399
"I can see a pentagram."
"It's Russian or Chinese."

261
00:24:30,482 --> 00:24:36,655
"No, it is guaranteed Illuminati."
We have stars on our flag .

262
00:24:36,738 --> 00:24:41,910
But the face and the red color are 
Satanic or Communist.

263
00:24:41,994 --> 00:24:49,918
When I drove my website
andrethegiant.com, people wrote:

264
00:24:50,002 --> 00:24:55,298
>

265
00:24:55,382 --> 00:24:58,885
"Why do you spoil our hero with your communist symbols?"

266
00:24:58,969 --> 00:25:06,101
"You mock a great athlete."

267
00:25:12,274 --> 00:25:18,030
I said, "I apologize . 
I'm dropping it. But André is cool. "

268
00:25:18,113 --> 00:25:25,120
Experience taught me that I could not make André stickers -

269
00:25:25,203 --> 00:25:29,916
- In a commercial 

Because it's a copyright violation.

270
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,007
- They were too processed
to break copyright.

271
00:25:45,265 --> 00:25:49,895
For a while, I was inspired by Russian constructivism.

272
00:25:49,978 --> 00:25:56,401
It's simple lines and colors
with exclamation marks and arrows.

273
00:25:56,485 --> 00:26:01,740
It's a rather daring style
with dramatic angles.

274
00:26:08,163 --> 00:26:11,333
In about the same period -

275
00:26:11,416 --> 00:26:17,714
- I watched the random movie "They Live" by John Carpenter.

276
00:26:17,798 --> 00:26:22,386
The main role "Rowdy" is played
by former Roddy Piper -

277
00:26:22,469 --> 00:26:26,223
- so there was a connection 
to André the Giant.

278
00:26:26,306 --> 00:26:30,477
The history of the film is
Worldwide -

279
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,690
- is controlled by a power of 


You look like an old cheese pie.

280
00:26:34,773 --> 00:26:39,277
I thought it was miserable, <br / > because it cost a dollar in rent -

281
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:45,617
- but it has a pretty deep message.

282
00:26:45,701 --> 00:26:48,787
-men den har et ret dybt budskab.

283
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:51,456
Here is one who can see!

284
00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:58,338
You must be aware of what
takes place behind the scenes.

285
00:26:58,422 --> 00:27:03,802
There is manipulation and an undertone <br

286
00:27:05,512 --> 00:27:10,767
When Roddy Piper takes on the sunglasses for the first time -

287
00:27:10,851 --> 00:27:16,732
- he looks at the advertising signs
where it's usually used to stand

288
00:27:16,815 --> 00:27:23,071
Instead, there is "Consumption", "Getting Children," "Submissing you," "Adlyd".

289
00:27:24,281 --> 00:27:28,827
The word "Obey" in the film Barbara Barbara's characteristics -

290
00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:35,500
- so the scenography was clearly inspired by her.

291
00:27:35,584 --> 00:27:40,839
I thought of George Orwell's "1984"
and at Barbara Kruger -

292
00:27:40,922 --> 00:27:46,345
- and then it struck me: What do we
make people very unconsciously

293
00:27:46,428 --> 00:27:52,768
- As we rebel, when we get
ordered it in conscious state?

294
00:27:52,851 --> 00:27:55,312
To obey.

295
00:27:55,395 --> 00:28:03,195
My very first "Obey" work was <

296
00:28:03,278 --> 00:28:07,407
- with a red stripe at the bottom,
where there was "Obey" in Futura.

297
00:28:07,491 --> 00:28:14,414
Later I used the same 

I've used since 1996.

298
00:28:14,498 --> 00:28:20,253
I began to use the word "Obey" 
much more often than "Giant" -

299
00:28:22,381 --> 00:28:28,679
- for I was fascinated by people's reactions to the word "Obey."

300
00:28:28,762 --> 00:28:33,767
I ask people: "What do you think? I,
that means "and they answer:

301
00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:38,063
" I do not know. What does that mean? "
" No, what do you think? "</ P>

302
00:28:38,146 --> 00:28:42,693
Sometimes people get very crazy.

303
00:28:42,776 --> 00:28:45,946
Nogle gange bliver folk meget gale.

304
00:28:46,029 --> 00:28:52,327
It's as annoying as to interpret poetry or abstract art.

305
00:28:52,411 --> 00:28:57,624
They get mad because they are bothered
by their own explanation.

306
00:28:57,708 --> 00:29:04,715
It may be wrong
according to the "experts" in the field. </ P>

307
00:29:14,725 --> 00:29:19,479
I had started working
as a graphic designer in San Diego. </ P>

308
00:29:22,482 --> 00:29:28,613
I ate at a Mexican place,
whose logo was a cow and a pig -

309
00:29:28,697 --> 00:29:34,411
- with aprons and meats,
as if they wanted to eat each other.

310
00:29:34,494 --> 00:29:40,334
But they were also best friends,
and I thought that was weird.

311
00:29:48,175 --> 00:29:53,639
I had moved back to town
and I ran into Damon Bell -

312
00:29:53,722 --> 00:29:58,852


313
00:29:58,935 --> 00:30:03,982
He invited me to lunch
at his office -

314
00:30:04,066 --> 00:30:09,404
- and I told him 
to a tacor restaurant.

315
00:30:09,488 --> 00:30:15,494
Your logo was a pig and a cow
with aprons and cookware -

316
00:30:15,577 --> 00:30:22,292
- and with kisses in hand,
as if they would eat each other.

317
00:30:22,376 --> 00:30:27,673


318
00:30:27,756 --> 00:30:32,719
p> Just when I said, 
Shepard came round the corner -

319
00:30:32,803 --> 00:30:36,974
- with an extra large soda
with just the logo on.

320
00:30:37,057 --> 00:30:42,646
Amanda commented on it.
"It's the new place."

321
00:30:42,729 --> 00:30:46,942
"Your logo is really weird."
Then I was sold.

322
00:30:47,025 --> 00:30:50,112
I did not know, who he was.
He just looked like a sweet skater.

323
00:30:50,195 --> 00:30:55,534
But I was with someone else.

324
00:30:55,617 --> 00:31:00,455
When she had gone
Damon came to me and said:

325
00:31:00,539 --> 00:31:06,753
"She's cute, do not forget?
Because she's with Mirko."

326
00:31:06,837 --> 00:31:11,675
When I heard, I thought that I had no chances.

327
00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:18,765
Afterwards, we often met in the center
because I lived there and he worked.

328
00:31:18,849 --> 00:31:21,476
We became pretty good friends.

329
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,813
Apparently
obviously did not work well with Mirko.

330
00:31:24,896 --> 00:31:30,444
One night where I stood
and played Billiard at a cafe -

331
00:31:30,527 --> 00:31:35,615
- Then she came in to read
and drink a cup of coffee.

332
00:31:36,616 --> 00:31:42,456
We slam a little and I said:
" I did not come here to read. "</ P>

333
00:31:42,539 --> 00:31:46,543
" I came to see you. "
He said," Now? "</ P>

334
00:31:46,626 --> 00:31:51,131
I'm not very directly < br /> so I was glad she said it.

335
00:31:51,214 --> 00:31:57,638
"Here you have my number,
if you want to do something."

336
00:31:57,721 --> 00:32:03,560
I called but he did not answer
so I called a little later.

337
00:32:03,644 --> 00:32:07,773
Still No Answer.
I called enough five times.

338
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:13,779
I had seven calls from Amanda.
"Super. She likes me."

339
00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:18,617
I knew he was an artist -

340
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:24,873
- but I had not seen his sticker campaign. 

We had been on a date
and had wallpaper stickers in the car -

341
00:32:24,956 --> 00:32:30,504
- so I posted some posters on a wall to a building site.

342
00:32:30,587 --> 00:32:36,843
Suddenly I noticed
there was a lot of faces everywhere.

343
00:32:36,927 --> 00:32:43,600
Her friend said,
"It's Shepard, him who you see."

344
00:32:43,684 --> 00:32:49,022
I asked him, "Is that you?"
He admitted. </ P>

345
00:32:50,774 --> 00:32:56,405
He decorated my neighborhood. </ P>

346
00:32:56,488 --> 00:33:00,367
I did not really understand.
"Do you want us to obey?" </ P>

347
00:33:03,412 --> 00:33:08,917
But then I heard his explanation for "Obey" -

348
00:33:09,001 --> 00:33:13,088
Men så hørte jeg
hans forklaring til "Obey"-

349
00:33:13,171 --> 00:33:17,592
- and it's actually
about opening my eyes.

350
00:33:20,012 --> 00:33:23,473
When I met Amanda,
I got a traveling companion.

351
00:33:26,226 --> 00:33:29,438
She was also a good partner.

352
00:33:29,521 --> 00:33:35,777
We started to travel together,
and almost every time we were somewhere -

353
00:33:35,861 --> 00:33:41,074
- he'd been there before
and there were left of his works.

354
00:33:41,158 --> 00:33:45,078
She joined San Francisco,
Tokyo and Hong Kong.

355
00:33:45,162 --> 00:33:50,000
When we could afford
we went on a cheap hotel -

356
00:33:50,083 --> 00:33:54,129
- posted posters all night
and ate brunch the next day.

357
00:34:05,932 --> 00:34:08,644
We were a bit like Bonnie and Clyde.

358
00:34:08,727 --> 00:34:15,942
He asked me never keep looking
but it was hard to leave.

359
00:34:17,736 --> 00:34:22,991
I saw the police. Hurry up. </ P>

360
00:34:23,075 --> 00:34:28,413
Amanda thought it was fun
and tied us together. </ P>

361
00:34:28,497 --> 00:34:32,876
Give me a smile, darling.
- What?

362
00:34:34,503 --> 00:34:37,005
The cute white legs.

363
00:34:37,089 --> 00:34:41,301
I would also post posters,
but I was nervous -

364
00:34:41,385 --> 00:34:47,683
- so I just threw them on the wall. <br </ P>

365
00:34:47,766 --> 00:34:52,020
I thought:
"I will not go back and fix it." </ P>

366
00:34:54,398 --> 00:34:56,525
It looks great. </ P>

367
00:34:57,734 --> 00:35:04,074
She did not mind putting
posters with me at the beginning.

368
00:35:04,157 --> 00:35:06,743
But then I was arrested.

369
00:35:10,497 --> 00:35:17,379
People do not think it's anything special,
Before it actually happens to them.

370
00:35:20,424 --> 00:35:23,010
Keep your hands out in front of you.

371
00:35:25,512 --> 00:35:32,602
You can not always make a call
or drink or go to the bathroom.

372
00:35:32,686 --> 00:35:35,897
The handcuffs are too tight.

373
00:35:35,981 --> 00:35:39,276
- What did you put up?
- Art.

374
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:43,030
- Graffiti?
- A poster for exhibition.

375
00:35:43,113 --> 00:35:45,449
Give me the other hand.

376
00:35:45,532 --> 00:35:50,662
I have been denied my insulin in the prison four times -

377
00:35:50,746 --> 00:35:54,291
- and twice I became very ill.

378
00:35:57,252 --> 00:36:00,630
He had told me
about his sugar sickness -

379
00:36:00,714 --> 00:36:04,301
when I asked him to take care.

380
00:36:04,384 --> 00:36:09,097
Because... he could actually die.

381
00:36:09,181 --> 00:36:13,935
When I was arrested in Philadelphia,
I said to a guard:

382
00:36:14,019 --> 00:36:17,856
"I have diabetes,
and I have to take insulin."

383
00:36:17,939 --> 00:36:22,611
"I can get very sick." 
He pretended he did not see me. </ P>

384
00:36:22,694 --> 00:36:27,741
Finally he came to the cell,
and when he opened the door -

385
00:36:27,824 --> 00:36:34,081
- I stood up and said </ P>

386
00:36:34,164 --> 00:36:38,710
As soon as the door went up
I got a blow on my face. </ P>

387
00:36:38,794 --> 00:36:43,882
He closed the door and said:
"Hold your mouth or it gets worse."

388
00:36:46,468 --> 00:36:53,225
When I picked him up the next morning,
he went to sit in the taxi.

389
00:36:53,308 --> 00:36:58,605
He was completely green,
and he threw up immediately.

390
00:36:58,689 --> 00:37:03,986
>

391
00:37:04,861 --> 00:37:09,366
When I asked, he said:
"They would not give me insulin."

392
00:37:09,449 --> 00:37:17,124
Such things happen all the time
but people do not believe me.

393
00:37:17,207 --> 00:37:23,964
/ p>

394
00:37:26,133 --> 00:37:29,303
They believe that I'm exaggerating
to work out and grow my image.

395
00:37:31,221 --> 00:37:34,808
The episode happened several times
and then I began to be afraid .

396
00:37:34,891 --> 00:37:39,021
Police. </ P>

397
00:37:39,104 --> 00:37:42,941
Do you understand why?
You attract attention. </ P>

398
00:37:43,025 --> 00:37:46,695
None of what we made
legal -

399
00:37:46,778 --> 00:37:51,950
- but we did not think so much about it.

400
00:37:58,457 --> 00:38:03,086
Thierry ran the same risk as me
while holding a camera.

401
00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:07,382
I climbed higher and higher
to get the right angle.

402
00:38:07,466 --> 00:38:10,469
p> - Was it difficult? 
- Yes.

403
00:38:10,552 --> 00:38:17,559
I called and asked him:
"Are we going out tonight?" Every evening. </ P>

404
00:38:18,393 --> 00:38:22,731
He faithfully followed me for five years.
It was incredible. </ P>

405
00:38:22,814 --> 00:38:27,653
It's good here. Here is not anyone
so you are undisturbed. </ P>

406
00:38:27,736 --> 00:38:32,991
- Yes, but you're looking at me.
- I'll shut it off. </ P>

407
00:38:33,075 --> 00:38:35,702
I both loved and hated him.

408
00:38:35,786 --> 00:38:39,623
Thierry! Stop filming. </ P>

409
00:38:39,706 --> 00:38:43,877
He was very going on
but also very loving. </ P>

410
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,674
He was a little crazy on an annoying
but also on a cool way.

411
00:38:48,757 --> 00:38:53,387
When it was a bit too dark, I turned on the light -

412
00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:58,183
- and then he turned around and became furious.

413
00:38:58,266 --> 00:39:04,731
"Turn off the light!" I did,
but I turned on again. </ P>

414
00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:12,781
I let Thierry follow me because he
could get a unique perspective -

415
00:39:12,864 --> 00:39:16,159


416
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:30,048
He was focused and had a goal,
and he realized his ideas.

417
00:39:30,132 --> 00:39:36,722
So I followed him, but it was a start , and I only got the start.

418
00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:49,026
When Bush was elected president in 2000, I was not happy.

419
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:54,489
When he began to talk about Iraq <br

420
00:39:54,573 --> 00:39:56,867
There is no doubt that Iraq's leader is an evil man.

421
00:39:56,992 --> 00:40:02,080


422
00:40:02,164 --> 00:40:06,043


423
00:40:06,126 --> 00:40:10,088
We know he has weapons of mass destruction.

424
00:40:10,172 --> 00:40:14,760
So, we keep an eye on him.

425
00:40:17,638 --> 00:40:20,724
A leader of the hell.

426
00:40:20,807 --> 00:40:24,811
Several people asked me
after September 11 -

427
00:40:24,895 --> 00:40:29,524
- if I wanted to censor myself
because people were sensitive.

428
00:40:29,608 --> 00:40:35,489
But I would do the opposite
because too many censor themselves -

429
00:40:35,572 --> 00:40:41,620
- and then you only hear voices
spreading anxiety and violence.

430
00:40:41,703 --> 00:40:46,750
I felt I should create some contra -rative works.

431
00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:51,505
In 2004 before the election -

432
00:40:51,588 --> 00:40:58,470
- Robbie Conal, as known
for his political works -

433
00:40:58,553 --> 00:41:04,184
Graffiti artist Mear and I
an antiBush collaboration.

434
00:41:04,267 --> 00:41:08,188
I became very touched
because it's mine work.

435
00:41:08,271 --> 00:41:15,654
They were great artists, but none of them 
made portraits of George Bush.

436
00:41:15,737 --> 00:41:22,035
But then they came here young guys
and wanted to my area -

437
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,956
- and said, "Come on.
What have you done recently?"

438
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:30,168
I thought it was nice.
I even started to cry.

439
00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:35,716
On my hugged Bush a bomb,
and the text sounded:

440
00:41:35,799 --> 00:41:39,261
"Should I hug kids
and throw bombs?"

441
00:41:39,344 --> 00:41:45,767
At Mears poster was there:
"Should we play Harmagedon?"

442
00:41:45,851 --> 00:41:50,147
On the poster of Robbie Conals there stood:
"Read my Apocalips."

443
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:56,320
We arranged a poster party, 
where everyone got stickers and a brush -

444
00:41:56,403 --> 00:42:02,659
- and then we set posters
from Venice to East Los Angeles.

445
00:42:02,743 --> 00:42:05,620
It was amazing. </

446
00:42:06,788 --> 00:42:12,919


447
00:42:13,003 --> 00:42:17,007
John Kerry acknowledges himself defeated
in the 2004 presidential election.

448
00:42:28,518 --> 00:42:33,940
Ladies and gentlemen: US President.

449
00:42:36,943 --> 00:42:44,743
I got the idea that fear was obviously a stronger argument -

450
00:42:44,826 --> 00:42:51,166
- than a promise to make
something good for humanity.

451
00:42:58,507 --> 00:43:04,596
I continued to make posters
during Bush's second parliamentary term. </ P>

452
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:12,104
I realized that subtle arguments
work less well here in the country -

453
00:43:12,187 --> 00:43:15,607
which people can relate to.

454
00:43:27,035 --> 00:43:30,872
- Vivienne was born in 2005. 
- Obey Giant!

455
00:43:33,625 --> 00:43:35,252
Prosit!

456
00:43:35,335 --> 00:43:40,632
Amanda was pregnant with Madeline ,
and I did not think -

457
00:43:40,716 --> 00:43:46,054
- What could strengthen my trademark as rebel.

458
00:43:46,138 --> 00:43:50,726
I thought more about what kind of Government -

459
00:43:50,809 --> 00:43:54,646
My children should grow up.

460
00:43:54,730 --> 00:44:01,862
Do we want to pursue a cynical policy
or a hopeful policy?

461
00:44:01,945 --> 00:44:05,532
Hope with freedom-giving slaves.

462
00:44:05,615 --> 00:44:09,953
Hope for immigrants,
who set the course against distant shores.

463
00:44:10,037 --> 00:44:15,208
Hope of a young captain in the fleet
who patrols the Mekong Delta.

464
00:44:15,292 --> 00:44:20,547
Hope at a working son
and the hope of a skinny boy -

465
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:25,802
- with a strange name that thinks
America has room for him.

466
00:44:28,472 --> 00:44:36,188
I saw Obama's speech in 2004,
and I thought it was strong.

467
00:44:36,271 --> 00:44:41,902
I studied several of his tales
and his writings -

468
00:44:41,985 --> 00:44:49,284
- and also his political point of view < br /> and thought, "I can support him."

469
00:44:49,368 --> 00:44:53,789
Instead of being against things,
I used to be often.

470
00:44:53,872 --> 00:45:01,338
It's the easiest and

471
00:45:02,714 --> 00:45:08,387
Being advocate for something
requires more courage than being critical.

472
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:12,599
Senator Barack Obama!

473
00:45:12,683 --> 00:45:17,938
- Young Senator Barack Obama.
- Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

474
00:45:18,021 --> 00:45:20,232
Hi, Everyone!

475
00:45:20,315 --> 00:45:24,069
Senators Support
Darfur Peace and Accountability Act. </ P>

476
00:45:24,152 --> 00:45:31,118
The most important thing we can do now is to
engage the Americans in politics -

477
00:45:31,201 --> 00:45:37,290
- and make them interested in
what our government actually can do.

478
00:45:37,374 --> 00:45:43,338
We must change the course of history,
and the journey towards the healing of the nation -

479
00:45:43,422 --> 00:45:48,343
- and a better world
has started. Thank you! </ P>

480
00:45:49,845 --> 00:45:53,765
When I created my Obama image,
I was afraid -

481
00:45:53,849 --> 00:46:00,230
- that they did not want my support.
I would not hurt

482
00:46:00,314 --> 00:46:05,402
I had a friend who knew one who worked on the campaign -

483
00:46:05,485 --> 00:46:11,283
- and he asked if it was okay
to I made a poster.

484
00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:14,745
They said, "Okay, we know him."

485
00:46:16,663 --> 00:46:22,794
I used red, white and blue tones
in a portrait -

486
00:46:22,878 --> 00:46:29,885
- where his face was half red
and the rest was blue and white.

487
00:46:29,968 --> 00:46:34,973
But the colors met in the middle, which symbolizes cooperation. </ P>

488
00:46:42,397 --> 00:46:48,153
I've always loved that picture
by John F. Kennedy -

489
00:46:48,236 --> 00:46:52,741
- where he looks
People can relate to it.

490
00:46:52,824 --> 00:46:58,372
They are looking forward to a future
that you do not know.

491
00:46:58,455 --> 00:47:00,916
It's powerful.

492
00:47:00,999 --> 00:47:07,214
I searched for a photo with the right light
and the correct main view.

493
00:47:07,297 --> 00:47:10,842
I found about five pictures -

494
00:47:10,926 --> 00:47:15,931
- which I could use as a model.
I chose the most famous.

495
00:47:20,894 --> 00:47:25,107
On the first 750 posters
there was "Progress" at the bottom -

496
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:29,945
- but I was told the most used
words "Hope" and "Change."

497
00:47:30,028 --> 00:47:34,908
I changed it to "Hope" during the eight years of Bush's power -

498
00:47:34,992 --> 00:47:39,496
- many had hopelessness.
So I liked "Hope."

499
00:47:39,579 --> 00:47:42,332


500
00:47:42,416 --> 00:47:45,585
Here is the original.

501
00:47:45,669 --> 00:47:52,843
They would not use the image itself -

502
00:47:52,926 --> 00:47:56,179
- because it was grassroots inspired.
It did not come from the campaign.

503
00:48:01,601 --> 00:48:05,230
And they were right.

504
00:48:05,314 --> 00:48:12,070
People could download it free of charge on my website.

505
00:48:12,154 --> 00:48:16,742
When using my posters,
I got People to send a party.

506
00:48:16,825 --> 00:48:22,414
If a newspaper would use it,
I sent them.

507
00:48:30,213 --> 00:48:34,301
I was interviewed almost every day
and

508
00:48:34,384 --> 00:48:41,475
I printed 300,000 posters
and 500,000 stickers.

509
00:48:41,558 --> 00:48:48,607
- and 1,200 prints to pay
for the posters and stickers.

510
00:48:48,690 --> 00:48:56,073
It was important that I did not appear
as someone who would earn it.

511
00:48:56,156 --> 00:49:01,912
You must have your pockets filled now.
Is this your dairy cow?

512
00:49:01,995 --> 00:49:08,043
Do you stop making art now?
Do you retire afterwards?

513
00:49:08,126 --> 00:49:12,255
- No, I'm...
- You're making money on it.

514
00:49:12,339 --> 00:49:18,345
I get another type of reward,
such as Obama becoming president.

515
00:49:19,972 --> 00:49:24,601
/ p>

516
00:49:24,685 --> 00:49:30,732
It was nice to see my image
that was not part of the campaign -

517
00:49:30,816 --> 00:49:35,445
- Becoming more famous
than the official polls.

518
00:49:35,529 --> 00:49:39,032
>

519
00:49:39,116 --> 00:49:43,954
The nation all over. I believe that. </ P>

520
00:49:44,037 --> 00:49:50,252
- It's signed Barack Obama.
- With a real pen.

521
00:49:50,335 --> 00:49:53,922
It may have been signed
by his secretary -

522
00:49:54,006 --> 00:50:00,846
- but I want to

523
00:50:12,399 --> 00:50:15,527
My mother had a birthday
on the 4th of November -

524
00:50:15,610 --> 00:50:21,074
- and Amanda and I participated in <br

525
00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:40,385
I was overwhelmed
by a huge sense of relief -

526
00:50:40,469 --> 00:50:44,348
- and I just started to cry.

527
00:50:44,431 --> 00:50:50,103
I called my mother.
It was amazing. </ P>

528
00:50:50,187 --> 00:50:54,066
Black, White, Asian,
Latin Americans, Native Americans -

529
00:50:54,149 --> 00:50:58,403
- Gay, heterosexual /> or disabled...

530
00:50:58,487 --> 00:51:05,035
Today, Americans have said that we
are not just a collection of individuals -

531
00:51:05,118 --> 00:51:08,622
- or a collection
of Red and Blue States.

532
00:51:08,705 --> 00:51:13,001
We are and remain
United States!

533
00:51:28,141 --> 00:51:33,313
Suddenly, one of my works was known over almost the world.

534
00:51:33,397 --> 00:51:38,110
I walked past Washington Airport
on my way to the deployment -

535
00:51:38,193 --> 00:51:43,115
- and then cups and jerseys and stuff
with my picture.

536
00:51:43,198 --> 00:51:45,617
It was absolutely absurd.

537
00:51:45,701 --> 00:51:50,956
The wildest thing was,
I started with 750 posters - </ p

538
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,875
and now the whole world had seen it.

539
00:51:53,959 --> 00:51:58,797
Obama's campaign team asked me
to make a "Change" poster -

540
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:05,053
- and a "Vote "posters they sold
to fund the campaign.

541
00:52:05,137 --> 00:52:08,849
I was even preparing -

542
00:52:08,932 --> 00:52:13,645
- my own solo show at
Boston Institute of Contemporary Art.

543
00:52:13,729 --> 00:52:20,777
It seems as though it is necessary to turn it all counterclockwise.

544
00:52:20,861 --> 00:52:25,574
It was scheduled before I made Obama -plakaten -

545
00:52:25,657 --> 00:52:32,873
But the museum was very pleased 
that my popularity had risen.

546
00:52:32,956 --> 00:52:38,837
Shepard Fairey is known for most
for his street art and provocations.

547
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,258
This is the official
insertion poster.

548
00:52:44,551 --> 00:52:47,846
Most people knew Shepard -

549
00:52:47,929 --> 00:52:54,061
- for the André the Giant stickers
and the Obama image.

550
00:52:54,144 --> 00:52:59,024
But most had not seen what he had done in the meantime.

551
00:52:59,107 --> 00:53:03,153
His prints, his paintings
and the hand painted series.

552
00:53:03,236 --> 00:53:07,616
No one had gathered his works
in a single place.

553
00:53:15,624 --> 00:53:20,587
In the months
before my solo exhibition in Boston -

554
00:53:20,671 --> 00:53:28,470
I still went over to put
posters and stickers.

555
00:53:28,553 --> 00:53:33,976
The interesting thing about it was
that we worked very outdoors.

556
00:53:37,354 --> 00:53:41,358
We got permission to beautify
past due buildings.

557
00:53:41,441 --> 00:53:45,195
We had plenty of surfaces.

558
00:53:46,488 --> 00:53:51,034
It got a police officer's attention.
It was not the posters -

559
00:53:51,118 --> 00:53:57,499
- but because I had spoken
an interview in NPR.

560
00:53:57,582 --> 00:54:02,004
I said street art was a legitimate art direction -

561
00:54:02,087 --> 00:54:06,341
- and that I defended
my actions in this regard. </ / p>

562
00:54:06,425 --> 00:54:10,095
He thought it was very offensive.

563
00:54:10,846 --> 00:54:15,392
Do you think people who do not
want street art on the houses -

564
00:54:15,475 --> 00:54:20,355
- or on signs and the like,
have a pointe?

565
00:54:20,439 --> 00:54:27,029
Graffiti and street art do not fit
all over the place, so I always try -

566
00:54:27,112 --> 00:54:32,451


567
00:54:32,534 --> 00:54:36,997
I pay taxes so I own
some of the public space.

568
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,502
I have the right to put things up
where they make people least.

569
00:54:42,586 --> 00:54:47,007
I only use 
clean-up buildings -

570
00:54:47,090 --> 00:54:50,010
- and where there is already graffiti.

571
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:54,556
We were in Boston
and there was nightly fame

572
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,271
It was a big day for him.
We had to take a taxi to the museum.

573
00:55:01,355 --> 00:55:07,235
I received a message from Amanda.
"Shepard is taken by police. "

574
00:55:07,319 --> 00:55:14,868
A police car stopped in front of the taxi,
one stop behind and one by the side.

575
00:55:14,951 --> 00:55:18,163
I thought," What's going on? "

576
00:55:18,246 --> 00:55:23,460
p> I actually thought the taxi driver
had a kilo of cocaine in the car.

577
00:55:23,543 --> 00:55:27,547
They had nine civilians and cars.

578
00:55:27,631 --> 00:55:33,804
"Out of the car!" They raised him
and put handcuffs on him. </ P>

579
00:55:33,887 --> 00:55:37,933
I was charged with 32 crimes. </ P>

580
00:55:38,016 --> 00:55:42,312
Listen to everyone!
I have something to say to you.

581
00:55:42,396 --> 00:55:46,441
You may have heard the rumors about it -

582
00:55:46,525 --> 00:55:49,486
But Shepard has been arrested.

583
00:55:52,155 --> 00:55:55,909
But we have the house filled with all his works -

584
00:55:55,993 --> 00:56:00,163
- so stay here
and celebrate Shepard tonight.

585
00:56:00,247 --> 00:56:04,543
He needs all the energy
you can give him.

586
00:56:04,626 --> 00:56:09,756
Do you agree? Can you give him your love and energy? </ P>

587
00:56:12,634 --> 00:56:15,762
Then we start! </ P>

588
00:56:16,847 --> 00:56:22,561
I was shocked and disturbed.
We would present an artist. </ P>

589
00:56:22,644 --> 00:56:28,233
It was a good advertisement for Boston.
He gave the mayor his hand.

590
00:56:28,317 --> 00:56:32,404
It was completely grinning.

591
00:56:32,487 --> 00:56:39,453
Shepard has been in jail before,
but when he sits there this weekend -

592
00:56:39,536 --> 00:56:42,539
-so they do not give him his...

593
00:56:44,833 --> 00:56:50,297
Excuse me...
They do not give him his insulin -

594
00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:52,591
- and then he becomes ill.

595
00:56:52,674 --> 00:56:56,011
I was afraid of Shepard's behalf.

596
00:56:56,094 --> 00:57:00,766
The street artist, known for his Obama posters -

597
00:57:00,849 --> 00:57:02,893
- has been arrested in Boston.

598
00:57:02,976 --> 00:57:07,105
It is alleged that
two arrest warrant against him.

599
00:57:07,189 --> 00:57:12,694
I called a lawyer,
as one known at the museum -

600
00:57:12,778 --> 00:57:19,993
- and we went to the arrest together
and we got him out in the morning.

601
00:57:25,082 --> 00:57:29,836
Then I was told
that he was charged with vandalism.

602
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,881
Call the police.

603
00:57:40,472 --> 00:57:44,309
Welcome to 
My name is Jamie Kenneally.

604
00:57:44,393 --> 00:57:50,399
We have a good program tonight.
We need to talk to Bill Kelly.

605
00:57:50,482 --> 00:57:56,571
- May I call you </ P>

606
00:57:56,655 --> 00:58:01,493
Some policemen 
from Boston's Anti-Fraud Department -

607
00:58:01,576 --> 00:58:07,332
- built their entire career <br / > to arrest graffiti artists.

608
00:58:07,416 --> 00:58:14,131
And Shepard was a famous artist,
so it was a beautiful trophy.

609
00:58:14,214 --> 00:58:18,802
The difference between graffiti and art
is a permission.

610
00:58:18,885 --> 00:58:24,433
If it looks so good
why is it not on your house?

611
00:58:24,516 --> 00:58:28,687
Why not on your car
or at your father's company? </ P>

612
00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:32,524
If it's art,
should they try to sell it. </ P>

613
00:58:32,607 --> 00:58:38,947
He continued to reiterate that I was a person who...

614
00:58:41,491 --> 00:58:47,539
I did not respect society.
"Respect the community," he said.

615
00:58:47,622 --> 00:58:51,835
"If you do not

616
00:58:51,918 --> 00:58:55,088
It's not his first sentence.

617
00:58:55,172 --> 00:59:00,177
He has been arrested for having graffiti made throughout the country .

618
00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:04,431
Shepard performed most of his art
on past buildings -

619
00:59:04,514 --> 00:59:10,479
- and there were often advertisements for Madewell and Urban Outfitters.

620
00:59:10,562 --> 00:59:15,817
There are advertising posters that are as illegal as Shepards.

621
00:59:15,901 --> 00:59:20,072
There is no difference.
Same materials without permission.

622
00:59:20,155 --> 00:59:25,952
They get someone 

But they do it without permission.

623
00:59:26,036 --> 00:59:31,625
It's selective enforcement.
They were just out of Shepard.

624
00:59:32,834 --> 00:59:37,005
They arrested me for some posters
and stickers in Boston -

625
00:59:37,089 --> 00:59:41,927
- and most of it was about the stickers.

626
00:59:42,010 --> 00:59:47,849
But they did not care. <br / </ P>

627
00:59:47,933 --> 00:59:51,687
Police Inspector Kelly was
in search of new charges. </ P>

628
00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:55,774
Han wanted to be fully in favor of me

629
00:59:55,857 --> 01:00:01,321
for all posters and stickers. walked around and found stickers
so he could add a sentence.

630
01:00:01,405 --> 01:00:06,952
I risked two and a half years prison per sentence -

631
01:00:07,035 --> 01:00:14,209
- and 32 allegations correspond to something like 83 years in prison.

632
01:00:15,168 --> 01:00:21,550
I just wanted to open
my first solo exhibition at the museum -

633
01:00:21,633 --> 01:00:26,680
and I had received attention after the Obama poster.

634
01:00:26,763 --> 01:00:33,812
The original had also come
in the Smithsonian portrait gallery.

635
01:00:33,895 --> 01:00:38,317
But instead, I was arrested,
and some days later -

636
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,573
- called the Associated Press and said:

637
01:00:44,656 --> 01:00:48,035
"You've used our photography -

638
01:00:48,118 --> 01:00:52,205
- and we'll see all

639
01:00:52,289 --> 01:00:57,210
Shepard's image became an unofficial
symbol of the Obama campaign -

640
01:00:57,294 --> 01:01:01,673
- and here's a 2006 photo, 
owned by the Associated Press.

641
01:01:01,757 --> 01:01:04,843
AP claims that it requires permission.

642
01:01:04,926 --> 01:01:09,514
They would have all the money I had earned .

643
01:01:09,598 --> 01:01:16,355
But I had used them to make more posters so it was impossible.

644
01:01:16,438 --> 01:01:22,611
It got a group of lawyers
to stand up and defend me.

645
01:01:22,694 --> 01:01:29,660
>

646
01:01:29,743 --> 01:01:33,038
I was sent on a mission
to photograph George Clooney -

647
01:01:33,121 --> 01:01:38,669
-which visited Washington DC

648
01:01:38,752 --> 01:01:41,755
I found a photo of Obama
and Clooney at a conference -

649
01:01:41,838 --> 01:01:46,718
But the solution was too bad. </ P>

650
01:01:46,802 --> 01:01:51,139
I liked Obama's gaze,
so I continued. </ P>

651
01:01:51,223 --> 01:01:58,105
found a better picture, where only Obama was.

652
01:01:58,188 --> 01:02:03,986
A colleague named Tom Gralish
at Philadelphia Inquirer called.

653
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:11,410
"Listen here... The Obama picture is yours,
and I can prove it. "</ P>

654
01:02:11,493 --> 01:02:17,708
Our defense against AP
regarding copyright infringement was -

655
01:02:17,791 --> 01:02:21,211
-I meant it was reasonable use.

656
01:02:21,294 --> 01:02:27,384
But if they wanted, I could pay 

The $ 300 license fee.

657
01:02:28,385 --> 01:02:33,181
I was worried
for Shepard Fairey's attitude.

658
01:02:33,265 --> 01:02:39,229
He was very brave.
He said, "Yes,

659
01:02:39,313 --> 01:02:43,692
"I transformed this image -"

660
01:02:43,775 --> 01:02:48,071
- and I have nothing < br /> legal responsibility. </ P>

661
01:02:48,155 --> 01:02:54,328
The photographer who took the photo
will now intervene in the trial. </ P>

662
01:02:54,411 --> 01:03:00,125
According to Anthony Falzone from Stanford
University, there is no crime.

663
01:03:00,208 --> 01:03:05,547
The fair use law
can protect Shepard.

664
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:09,593
One can be creative, 
even if you copy something -

665
01:03:09,676 --> 01:03:13,847
Man kan sagtens være kreativ,
selvom man kopierer noget-

666
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:18,560
- and I think it has the
democratic process -

667
01:03:18,644 --> 01:03:25,233
- and given the powerless power back
so I'm extremely satisfied.

668
01:03:25,317 --> 01:03:27,944
It was brave. </ P>

669
01:03:29,363 --> 01:03:32,658
But it was still a lot...

670
01:03:36,328 --> 01:03:39,456
It was the start of something bad. </ P>

671
01:03:42,751 --> 01:03:48,298
The 2nd of January at about. 13 -

672
01:03:48,382 --> 01:03:54,179
- became a person who turned out to be Shepard Fairey, seen by the police -

673
01:03:54,262 --> 01:03:59,017
- when he put a sticker on the back of a traffic sign.

674
01:03:59,101 --> 01:04:03,772
He was asked to remove it,
which he did.

675
01:04:03,855 --> 01:04:07,484
- Was there any destruction?
- No.

676
01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:11,363
Why did he say
for destruction of property? </ P>

677
01:04:11,446 --> 01:04:14,241
We will show that there has been damage. </ P>

678
01:04:14,324 --> 01:04:20,497
He was asked to remove
this sticker ?

679
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:24,167
Gjorde han det? Hvor er skaden så?

680
01:04:24,251 --> 01:04:27,629
When he removed the sticker...

681
01:04:27,713 --> 01:04:32,134
- Was there any leftovers on the sign?
- No.

682
01:04:32,217 --> 01:04:38,140
However, when he placed the sticker
he suffered damage on the sign.

683
01:04:39,683 --> 01:04:44,062
A policeman who had free
saw me set it up -

684
01:04:44,146 --> 01:04:50,444
- and he later testified that he had seen me Do it.

685
01:04:50,527 --> 01:04:55,949
He bade me climb up and remove it
and I did.

686
01:04:56,033 --> 01:05:02,998
I had also posted a poster
over a window of boards

687
01:05:03,081 --> 01:05:09,129
They negotiated with my lawyer.
"If he confesses the two things-"

688
01:05:09,212 --> 01:05:13,050
- and blame
and pay a fine-

689
01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:16,928


690
01:05:18,221 --> 01:05:24,061
"- We'll definitely drop the case."

691
01:05:24,144 --> 01:05:28,899
- Please enter name and age.
- Frank Shepard Fairey, 39 years.

692
01:05:28,982 --> 01:05:35,572
- Do you want to hear the facts?
- It's unnecessary.

693
01:05:36,406 --> 01:05:42,329
Two minor offenses are much better than 32 gross crimes.

694
01:05:42,412 --> 01:05:45,624
You are judged a probationary period of two years -

695
01:05:45,707 --> 01:05:50,712
- and it will expire on 6 July 2011.

696
01:05:50,796 --> 01:05:53,548
- Thank you.
- Thank you.

697
01:05:57,177 --> 01:06:00,514
I'm glad it's over.

698
01:06:00,597 --> 01:06:04,267
I'll continue to make art -

699
01:06:04,351 --> 01:06:10,065
- so it's nice that this is over

700
01:06:10,148 --> 01:06:14,403
for months

701
01:06:14,486 --> 01:06:18,615


702
01:06:18,699 --> 01:06:23,203


703
01:06:23,286 --> 01:06:30,794
> But the issues
with the Associated Press continued. </ P>

704
01:06:30,877 --> 01:06:36,591
Now, the people I had lied about said
which image I had used. </ P>

705
01:06:36,675 --> 01:06:42,848
- left in the frame,
but it was absolutely not.

706
01:06:42,931 --> 01:06:48,395
I do not know who had claimed it from the outset.

707
01:06:48,478 --> 01:06:53,275
When the lawyers asked me
what image I used -

708
01:06:53,358 --> 01:06:58,280
- I replied that I had used
a cropped version of this photo. </ P>

709
01:06:58,363 --> 01:07:02,159
I offer Welcome to the National Press Club.

710
01:07:02,242 --> 01:07:08,832
It turned out that the cropped photo
was enlarged and taken -

711
01:07:08,915 --> 01:07:12,669
- a few seconds later
by the same photographer.

712
01:07:12,753 --> 01:07:16,298
But it was not the same picture.

713
01:07:16,381 --> 01:07:22,679
I did not realize, because I never
compared the pictures.

714
01:07:22,763 --> 01:07:28,268
Why is that so important? Here we see the
image used for the poster -

715
01:07:28,352 --> 01:07:32,773
- and the image with George Clooney,
and they are almost identical. </ P>

716
01:07:32,856 --> 01:07:37,235
Yes, and some lawyers argue,
It does not matter -

717
01:07:37,319 --> 01:07:42,366
- but according to AP, it's crucial.
It's bad news for Fairey.

718
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:47,120
The lawsuit in Boston was very stressful -

719
01:07:47,204 --> 01:07:53,126
- and I was actually on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

720
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:58,590
In addition, I had to admit I had
made an error regarding the image.

721
01:07:58,674 --> 01:08:04,388
So I made it worse for

722
01:08:04,471 --> 01:08:10,894
I adhered to the version that
I had used a cropped photo.

723
01:08:10,978 --> 01:08:16,733
I did not say either to the lawyers
or Amanda, that I was wrong -

724
01:08:16,817 --> 01:08:21,863
- regarding the two pictures.
In addition, I felt stupid.

725
01:08:21,947 --> 01:08:26,827
I tried to hide it <

726
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:32,624
I remember him one day said,
"I have to talk to you about something."

727
01:08:32,708 --> 01:08:36,378
He said it < br /> in such a strange way -

728
01:08:36,461 --> 01:08:41,258
- I either thought he was dying or had an affair.

729
01:08:41,341 --> 01:08:44,219
He said, "Sit down."

730
01:08:44,303 --> 01:08:50,392
"No, I want Do not put me down.
Say it while I get up. "

731
01:08:50,475 --> 01:08:55,856
" I refuse to put myself. "
Then he told me the story.

732
01:08:55,939 --> 01:09:02,487
When I realized that I could lie under oath -

733
01:09:02,571 --> 01:09:05,115
I agreed to my lawyers. </ P>

734
01:09:05,198 --> 01:09:12,789
I said, "Why did you do that? "
" It did not matter. "

735
01:09:12,873 --> 01:09:16,126
But he had sworn
that was the second photo.

736
01:09:16,209 --> 01:09:21,757
They could use all this to 
It felt very threatening.

737
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,260
It was not about money for me -

738
01:09:25,344 --> 01:09:30,766
- but about my freedom.
It was easy.

739
01:09:30,849 --> 01:09:37,105
/ p>

740
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:40,817
But he did not feel well.

741
01:09:40,901 --> 01:09:46,365
This was the first time
I had done something so cowardly.

742
01:09:46,448 --> 01:09:50,869
I did everything
what I

743
01:09:52,663 --> 01:09:57,042
I said to him:
"If you just said that..."

744
01:09:57,125 --> 01:10:02,130
"If you had said that, <br / > when it started -

745
01:10:02,214 --> 01:10:06,927
- I could have helped you
through it. "

746
01:10:10,681 --> 01:10:15,852
It was one of the most difficult periods
in our relationship. </ / p>

747
01:10:17,813 --> 01:10:21,483
I never let him do it.

748
01:10:21,566 --> 01:10:27,322
I would have done everything in my power to save him.

749
01:10:28,865 --> 01:10:35,372
We decided he should stand up
and tell it to his lawyers.

750
01:10:35,455 --> 01:10:39,918
When I spoke with the lawyers,
they became very frustrated -

751
01:10:40,002 --> 01:10:45,549
- and it was incredibly difficult for me 
"Why did not you say that?"

752
01:10:45,632 --> 01:10:50,554
"Your chances of winning were good
regardless of the image."

753
01:10:50,637 --> 01:10:58,270
"You would have won, but now you have 
cast a bad light on the case -

754
01:10:58,353 --> 01:11:01,606
- Because you appear to be a villain."

755
01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:08,405
"It will affect the entire procedure,
and we can not continue with you. "

756
01:11:08,488 --> 01:11:13,535
" A spokesman for Fairey has stated that lawyers may drop the case. "

757
01:11:13,618 --> 01:11:16,121
</ P>

758
01:11:18,832 --> 01:11:21,752
He presented false evidence. </ P>

759
01:11:21,835 --> 01:11:27,632
Shepard Fairey has acknowledged,
that an Associated Press photograph -

760
01:11:27,716 --> 01:11:30,636
was the
model for the Obama poster.

761
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:35,724
Fairey has acknowledged that he has destroyed and forged documents -

762
01:11:35,807 --> 01:11:40,520
- in a dispute with the Associated Press. </

763
01:11:40,604 --> 01:11:43,231
Judgment will be delivered in July.

764
01:11:43,315 --> 01:11:49,529
When I became aware of the facts,
I saw a chance to clarify -

765
01:11:49,613 --> 01:11:54,409
- How much an action
an artist should have -

766
01:11:54,493 --> 01:11:59,206
- when using
copyrighted images.

767
01:11:59,289 --> 01:12:02,501
So that was basically <

768
01:12:02,584 --> 01:12:09,508
I think artists are right
to create new, edited photos -

769
01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:14,888
- from existing photos.
The

770
01:12:14,972 --> 01:12:19,935
My message to the artists is:
If you want something -

771
01:12:20,018 --> 01:12:25,649
- to promote your own work,
then it's fine .

772
01:12:25,732 --> 01:12:29,653
But respect your professional colleagues -

773
01:12:29,736 --> 01:12:36,326
- and ask for permission. That's all. </ P>

774
01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:42,749
The photo did not have any
icon status. Not at all. </ P>

775
01:12:42,833 --> 01:12:46,962
Shepard made it an icon.
It was his merit. </ P>

776
01:12:47,045 --> 01:12:51,967
If he wanted to sell T-shirts,
and if there was one movie star -

777
01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:58,849
- The photographer must be compensated, 
however bad the picture is.

778
01:12:58,932 --> 01:13:05,439
But using a politician's picture
to express himself is different.

779
01:13:06,273 --> 01:13:13,155
The room was filled with photographers,
took photos. It was impersonal. </ P>

780
01:13:14,072 --> 01:13:21,038
Freedom of speech is important in America,
and Shepard saw something in that picture. </ P>

781
01:13:24,249 --> 01:13:30,714
Fairey denies the matter because
is because

782
01:13:30,797 --> 01:13:37,471
According to AP, his photo is a pure copy,
which does not add anything new.

783
01:13:37,554 --> 01:13:40,932
Journalism would be threatened -

784
01:13:41,016 --> 01:13:47,022
- if everyone could copy things
without ever paying for it.

785
01:13:47,105 --> 01:13:52,819
Associated Press & apos; Claims
would have ruined Shepard.

786
01:13:53,528 --> 01:13:59,326
The license fee for a photo is
of up to a few thousand dollars -

787
01:13:59,409 --> 01:14:02,996
and the required millions of dollars.

788
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:09,086
AP wanted to make sure that the case created precedence.

789
01:14:09,169 --> 01:14:13,548
If you steal
or take something from AP -

790
01:14:13,632 --> 01:14:17,427
- then your long arms 
After you.

791
01:14:17,511 --> 01:14:21,181
AP could afford more attorneys -

792
01:14:21,264 --> 01:14:27,312
- so they could squeeze Shepard hard
over a long period of time.

793
01:14:27,396 --> 01:14:33,318
Shepard could not.
He and Amanda were in trouble. </ P>

794
01:14:33,402 --> 01:14:39,408
It was a dark time for me.
It was stressful and depressing. </ P>

795
01:14:40,826 --> 01:14:44,913
Han had a black cloud over his head.

796
01:14:44,997 --> 01:14:48,750
But we have children
and he is a wonderful father -

797
01:14:48,834 --> 01:14:53,672
- and he was there for all time.

798
01:14:54,715 --> 01:15:00,554
p>

799
01:15:00,637 --> 01:15:03,390
The girls always come first.
I think he was the best -

800
01:15:03,473 --> 01:15:09,229
- when he was with them.

801
01:15:09,313 --> 01:15:15,110
Amanda was very stressed
because of all that was happening.

802
01:15:15,193 --> 01:15:18,864
It would have been easier on my own.

803
01:15:23,327 --> 01:15:29,624
Band 1, Series 5 by Shepard Faireys <

804
01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:33,045
It was a stressful experience.

805
01:15:33,128 --> 01:15:37,507
If you do not give them the answer,
as they want -

806
01:15:37,591 --> 01:15:42,554
- then they ask the question five times
in different ways.

807
01:15:42,638 --> 01:15:50,020
They try to make it look
as if something has been done seriously.

808
01:15:50,103 --> 01:15:56,109
You know what photograph you used
to make the Obama picture? </ P>

809
01:15:58,904 --> 01:16:01,615
I thought I knew it. </ P>

810
01:16:01,698 --> 01:16:06,787
The Associated Press was
complete

811
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:14,628
They wanted to crucify him in a way that I did not really understand.

812
01:16:17,964 --> 01:16:20,550
- Have you read the printout?
- Yes.

813
01:16:20,634 --> 01:16:25,222
When did you say it was wrong
by Fairey to use your photograph?

814
01:16:25,305 --> 01:16:29,351
- I did not say that.
- We take a break.

815
01:16:30,686 --> 01:16:34,773
It was a lunch break, and I said:

816
01:16:34,856 --> 01:16:38,819
"Shepard, do you want to eat
lunch with me?" </ P>

817
01:16:38,902 --> 01:16:43,907
And the sledding animals went completely crazy. </ P>

818
01:16:44,992 --> 01:16:50,455
We looked at them and said,
"We eat lunch. See you." </ P>

819
01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:57,879
I said to him: "I respect
photographers and collaborate with them." </ P> >

820
01:16:57,963 --> 01:17:02,759
"I also defend people,
if I can sense -

821
01:17:02,843 --> 01:17:09,433
- that they are being used by others."
I think we two -

822
01:17:09,516 --> 01:17:14,438
- looks more like each other than 
than we look like people from the AP.

823
01:17:14,521 --> 01:17:20,027
Shepard gave me my hand
and said sorry.

824
01:17:20,110 --> 01:17:25,991
Han sagde: "Jeg skulle have
kontaktet dig tidligere."

825
01:17:27,743 --> 01:17:31,788
"I apologize.
I'd like to do it again."

826
01:17:31,872 --> 01:17:38,837
He began to realize that I had not done it for the sake of money -

827
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,301
- and that I did not even expect to win recognition of it.

828
01:17:44,384 --> 01:17:48,347
We had been linked
because it was a difficult time.

829
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:57,689
We should go to court
when the AP would conclude a settlement. </ P>

830
01:17:57,773 --> 01:18:03,070
AP was probably worried
and they should also -

831
01:18:03,153 --> 01:18:10,160
- for It's the kind of complaint that
would be a disadvantage for them.

832
01:18:10,243 --> 01:18:13,580
-In talks with artists.

833
01:18:13,664 --> 01:18:17,918
Your goal was to achieve
a large sum Shepard's money -

834
01:18:18,001 --> 01:18:21,922
-to get a final verdict.

835
01:18:22,005 --> 01:18:29,304
Shepard signed a settlement with AP,
and AP signed a settlement with me.

836
01:18:29,388 --> 01:18:35,894
p> So... it took its time,
and it was exhausting.

837
01:18:35,978 --> 01:18:40,816
I asked my lawyers,
how much money it had costed -

838
01:18:40,899 --> 01:18:47,239
- before I finally could go my way 
Shepard could go away -

839
01:18:47,322 --> 01:18:49,658
and AP their way.

840
01:18:49,741 --> 01:18:54,037
They estimated it to about $ 15 million.

841
01:18:54,121 --> 01:19:00,836
Most of that money was used
by Associated Press

842
01:19:00,919 --> 01:19:03,880
Attorneys.

843
01:19:05,007 --> 01:19:12,389
It was never settled by court,
whether it was fair use or not.

844
01:19:12,472 --> 01:19:16,560
If the case had been terminated

845
01:19:16,643 --> 01:19:19,479
Shepard probably won.

846
01:19:20,814 --> 01:19:25,360
You probably can not recognize
but you can recognize Shepard Fairey.

847
01:19:25,444 --> 01:19:31,867
But it was I took that photo
as he used to make a poster -

848
01:19:31,950 --> 01:19:35,329
- to be chosen
our first black president.

849
01:19:35,412 --> 01:19:37,873
It's all right.

850
01:19:37,956 --> 01:19:42,252
I have no problems with it.

851
01:19:43,003 --> 01:19:48,425
It was humiliating,
and I was ashamed of it.

852
01:19:48,508 --> 01:19:54,264
Nobody can say
how long people will remember it -

853
01:19:54,348 --> 01:19:59,186
always comes
to haunt me.

854
01:20:23,126 --> 01:20:28,674
When it was over, I did something
I always do something stressful.

855
01:20:28,757 --> 01:20:32,052
I worked, <br

856
01:21:18,974 --> 01:21:22,728
I had seen one of his exhibitions -

857
01:21:22,811 --> 01:21:26,732
- and I was impressed
over his portraits.

858
01:21:26,815 --> 01:21:31,278
They were far better in quality than the Obama portrait.

859
01:21:31,361 --> 01:21:36,241
I thought he was one of
the most original and insightful

860
01:21:36,325 --> 01:21:39,870
<p

861
01:21:39,953 --> 01:21:46,460
The gallery owner Jeffrey Deitch,
whom I greatly admire -

862
01:21:46,543 --> 01:21:51,465
- for his program in New York,
asked me make an exhibition.

863
01:21:51,548 --> 01:21:56,303
I suggested him a theme:
A portrait of America.

864
01:21:56,386 --> 01:22:02,184
Portraits of Underground Heroes
and some of our political heroes.

865
01:22:03,268 --> 01:22:08,649
I had something to work on
and correct my energy.

866
01:22:08,732 --> 01:22:12,361
I was both
Socially and politically frustrated -

867
01:22:12,444 --> 01:22:15,781
-and frustrated by myself.

868
01:22:19,951 --> 01:22:24,998
It took at least one year to create this amazing portrait gallery.

869
01:22:25,082 --> 01:22:28,960
I decided
to call the exhibition "Mayday".

870
01:22:33,131 --> 01:22:36,969
I feared
that an exhibition on Deitch Projects -

871
01:22:37,052 --> 01:22:43,433
- which is a highly regarded

872
01:22:43,517 --> 01:22:48,397
Some people hoped 
that I got a lukewarm criticism -

873
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:54,444
- so they could say, 
That the "Hope" poster was a daylight.

874
01:22:54,528 --> 01:23:00,951
That I was not a true artist.
I'd rather resist it.

875
01:23:03,453 --> 01:23:09,251
In the morning, the audience began to queue before seven o'clock.

876
01:23:09,334 --> 01:23:15,882
When we opened, it was so full that they almost had to block the street.

877
01:23:36,361 --> 01:23:40,240
I've been very lucky.
People know my art.

878
01:23:40,324 --> 01:23:44,328
I can live as an artist
and I have a clothes tag.

879
01:23:44,411 --> 01:23:51,668
My income

880
01:23:51,752 --> 01:23:58,258
Now I can invest my money
in things that are really close to me.

881
01:24:01,553 --> 01:24:05,140
People know not that he makes many things free.

882
01:24:05,223 --> 01:24:11,480
Gay Marriages,
Citizens United, Money in Politics -

883
01:24:11,563 --> 01:24:15,442
The system and mass affairs.

884
01:24:15,525 --> 01:24:18,195
Climate change.

885
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,619
It was easier when I was younger
and made stickers and stencils -

886
01:24:25,702 --> 01:24:28,622
-style fame.

887
01:24:28,705 --> 01:24:34,252
But when you decorate the Eiffel Tower, it's going to be good.

888
01:24:39,424 --> 01:24:43,345
At the Climate Change Conference in Paris
, leaders, researchers gather

889
01:24:43,428 --> 01:24:48,308
- and speakers to Encourage
to act against climate change.

890
01:24:48,392 --> 01:24:53,105
One will decide how the countries will
reduce greenhouse gases

891
01:24:53,188 --> 01:24:57,234
and provide the necessary financial support.

892
01:24:57,317 --> 01:25:02,823


893
01:25:02,906 --> 01:25:06,827
p> I made a earthquake
between the second and third floors.

894
01:25:06,910 --> 01:25:10,956
You could see a mandala,
a flower pattern -

895
01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:15,961
- and different

896
01:25:19,881 --> 01:25:25,887
Some of them spoke for green energy
and others against fossil fuels.

897
01:25:25,971 --> 01:25:31,393
Nobody had made a three-dimensional
installation on the Eiffel Tower before.

898
01:25:34,730 --> 01:25:40,652
To unite an entertaining value
with a significant message -

899
01:25:40,736 --> 01:25:44,906
- In the same work, a business
was and I'm proud of it.

900
01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:52,539
It conveyed my message,
and the place was absolutely unique. </ P>

901
01:26:06,345 --> 01:26:13,310
Art often forms a starting point for a conversation between people. </ P>

902
01:26:13,393 --> 01:26:16,229
There are a lot of people-

903
01:26:16,313 --> 01:26:21,234
- which will engage
in the debate about climate change.

904
01:26:24,321 --> 01:26:31,161
But if art attracts others,
then it's hugely valuable.

905
01:26:36,124 --> 01:26:39,002
Sorry. </ P>

906
01:26:51,264 --> 01:26:57,980
We have our first forecast.
Donald Trump wins in Kentucky. </ P>

907
01:26:58,063 --> 01:27:04,236
He probably wins an unexpected place.
- Donald Trump wins in Ohio. </ P>

908
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:08,115
- It's sensational. 
- Trump wins in Pennsylvania. </ P>

909
01:27:08,198 --> 01:27:14,913
- Donald Trump wins in Florida.
- It's a totally surreal choice.

910
01:27:14,997 --> 01:27:18,125
USA! USA! USA!

911
01:27:37,519 --> 01:27:43,066
My need to make
my art significant -

912
01:27:43,150 --> 01:27:50,282
- comes from the things in life,
that I have interested in.

913
01:27:54,828 --> 01:28:00,250
Now I try to take my frustration and my impulses -

914
01:28:00,334 --> 01:28:06,965
- and do something constructively with it
and I do the best with the art.

915
01:28:10,218 --> 01:28:13,972
We follow

916
01:28:14,056 --> 01:28:18,018
It will be the biggest
deployment protest ever.

917
01:28:18,101 --> 01:28:21,104
The crowds begin to grow.

918
01:28:21,188 --> 01:28:27,402
And it's not only in Washington.
People march across the country.

919
01:28:27,486 --> 01:28:32,032
The cold has not stopped
the 20,000 participants in the march.

920
01:28:32,115 --> 01:28:38,914
200,000 protesters were expected.
There are now 500,000. </ P>

921
01:28:38,997 --> 01:28:46,421
Women marches have been arranged
600 places on seven continents. </ P>

922
01:29:14,032 --> 01:29:17,953
Jeg er mere en kunstner
end en aktivist.

923
01:29:18,036 --> 01:29:22,165
As an activist, you never do.

924
01:29:22,249 --> 01:29:25,544
As an artist, I do a lot.

925
01:30:17,929 --> 01:30:22,434
I've lasted longer than several generations of critics.

926
01:30:22,517 --> 01:30:25,020
<

927
01:30:25,103 --> 01:30:31,443
We are here for a limited time,
and I will not waste a second.

928
01:30:37,115 --> 01:30:43,413
Associated Press has denied
that

929
01:30:44,706 --> 01:30:49,127
Shepard has been re-accused
for property destruction.

930
01:30:49,211 --> 01:30:53,632
This time it's in Detroit.

931
01:30:53,715 --> 01:30:58,512
If he is being sentenced, he is in prison for two years.

932
01:30:59,016 --> 01:31:04,516
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933
01:31:05,227 --> 01:31:08,355
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