1 00:00:13,213 --> 00:00:15,444 Visit www.Fortunebet99.cc Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agents 2 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:21,283 Think of Thorpe / Little Punk production. 3 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:27,752 The film by David Thorpe. 4 00:00:35,602 --> 00:00:38,162 Am I Sound Gay? 5 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:39,672 Yes, I think you sound gay. 6 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,231 Not as much as I do, but... 7 00:00:41,274 --> 00:00:43,562 > 8 00:00:43,643 --> 00:00:45,407 Yes. 9 00:00:45,445 --> 00:00:47,209 Ah, no, en Frances no. 10 00:00:47,247 --> 00:00:48,510 In English, I don't know. 11 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:49,515 Yes. 12 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:50,516 Not everything. 13 00:00:50,517 --> 00:00:51,517 Really ? 14 00:00:51,518 --> 00:00:53,487 This is your tone, 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,614 which is, like, intellectual, 16 00:00:55,655 --> 00:00:58,318 so that people can read it as gay. 17 00:00:58,358 --> 00:00:59,656 I will have only, maybe, equate you with art-fenders. 18 00:00:59,692 --> 00:01:01,752 You sound creative 19 00:01:01,795 --> 00:01:04,731 which is an part of the stereotype of gay men. 20 00:01:04,764 --> 00:01:06,494 There is something a little melody 21 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:07,728 I think that is nasality. 22 00:01:07,767 --> 00:01:10,259 I will definitely rate you as metrosexual. 23 00:01:10,303 --> 00:01:11,303 - No. - Not all? 24 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:12,271 No. 25 00:01:12,272 --> 00:01:14,605 You sound like < br /> humans, men 26 00:01:22,682 --> 00:01:24,378 Maybe more facts that I'm gay too 27 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:26,215 so I choose that. 28 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:27,811 You don't sound like gay 29 00:01:27,854 --> 00:01:29,322 maybe because I am immersed in gay. 30 00:01:29,355 --> 00:01:30,516 You can sound gay if you... 31 00:01:30,557 --> 00:01:33,550 If you want to make... < br /> make it very, very... 32 00:01:33,593 --> 00:01:35,289 very wide crisp 33 00:01:35,328 --> 00:01:36,489 We say. 34 00:01:37,797 --> 00:01:38,856 And if it's gay... 35 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:40,099 Muah! 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,632 This will be a beautiful day. 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,610 This is me, David. 38 00:01:57,584 --> 00:02:02,454 I am a writer, I live in Brooklyn, and I live alone. 39 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:06,459 Well, not entirely alone. 40 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:16,561 Recently, I split with my girlfriend, 41 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:17,798 and she moved. 42 00:02:17,837 --> 00:02:18,837 Good. 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,334 I am very happy today. 44 00:02:23,576 --> 00:02:24,703 I don't know, This is interesting to think about, like, 45 00:02:24,744 --> 00:02:26,372 p> 46 00:02:26,412 --> 00:02:27,744 "Okay, I took control of from this problem 47 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:29,248 ... it really bothered me," 48 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:31,579 and, um... 49 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:34,611 I don't know 50 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:37,222 Like, I feel like that maybe for me a different person... 51 00:02:37,257 --> 00:02:39,351 That will be cool, 52 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:41,156 because I'm not really satisfied 53 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:42,662 with the person I am. 54 00:02:42,695 --> 00:02:43,822 Alright. 55 00:02:43,863 --> 00:02:46,924 because I was in my 40s and still single. 56 00:02:48,501 --> 00:02:51,494 I am not the most confident person people today... 58 00:02:57,243 --> 00:02:58,802 with gay being heard. 59 00:03:06,953 --> 00:03:08,444 Right after breaking up, 60 00:03:08,488 --> 00:03:11,287 I fled to a gay beach town on Fire Island 61 00:03:11,324 --> 00:03:12,622 to drown my suffering. 62 00:03:12,659 --> 00:03:13,922 - So I have friends coming in... - Oh my God! 63 00:03:13,923 --> 00:03:14,860 You won't believe what happened to me that night. 64 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:15,954 He's like, so where are we going to go tonight 65 00:03:18,231 --> 00:03:19,927 It was Friday night. 66 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:24,700 The train was crowded with loud and talking gay men. 67 00:03:24,737 --> 00:03:26,535 Take me to the front line. I will kill you. 68 00:03:26,573 --> 00:03:28,337 And there is this, like, magical tutu 69 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:29,808 that appears from, like, no. 70 00:03:29,842 --> 00:03:32,334 Okay, so I'm stuck there with this person 71 00:03:32,378 --> 00:03:33,744 at the end of the car... 72 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:35,681 p> 73 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:37,684 Darkness is strengthened 74 00:03:37,717 --> 00:03:39,208 loud voices around me. 75 00:03:39,252 --> 00:03:40,252 He's like, "Hey, kid. You look fierce." 76 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:41,414 And I'm like, "Me?" 77 00:03:41,454 --> 00:03:43,685 And he was like, "Yeah, you." 78 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:44,723 Wrap it up, I have stuff to say about my grandmother 79 00:03:44,757 --> 00:03:46,385 They only have this place... 80 00:03:46,426 --> 00:03:47,426 I began to feel rejected. 81 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:48,656 There is this girl there, 82 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:51,324 and he, like, a little tragic... 83 00:03:51,364 --> 00:03:53,833 Why? < br /> we all insist on ringing 84 00:03:53,866 --> 00:03:55,698 And I have to like the rush downtown... 85 00:03:57,937 --> 00:03:59,906 He walked and I like, "Oh, my Lord, 86 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:01,908 like, right really hurt me with chai. " 87 00:04:01,941 --> 00:04:04,570 I don't choose this gay voice. 88 00:04:04,611 --> 00:04:05,977 Why me? 89 00:04:06,012 --> 00:04:08,413 My mother pushed me really crazy 90 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:10,508 I mean, she also has the same thing dowdy haircut... 91 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:13,452 Who can respect, let alone fall in love with 92 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:16,786 ninny old neighing like me? 93 00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:19,793 Stop! 94 00:04:30,803 --> 00:04:32,499 I thought so. 95 00:04:56,329 --> 00:04:57,797 Willem Dafoe, 96 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:58,991 Gregory Hines, 97 00:04:59,032 --> 00:05:00,398 James Gandolfini, 98 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:03,801 the great Joey Mclntyre from New Kids on the Block, 99 00:05:03,836 --> 00:05:05,668 dan tentu saja Tony Danza. 100 00:05:06,673 --> 00:05:11,634 Well, this room must be very convincing that... 101 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:13,704 that I can't get better help 102 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:20,686 Even though, it does make me feel Like I'm learning how to act. 103 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:22,915 Hi how are you? 104 00:05:22,955 --> 00:05:24,048 Hi David, I'm Susan Sankin. 105 00:05:24,090 --> 00:05:25,353 - Nice to meet you. - Thank you very much. 106 00:05:25,391 --> 00:05:26,620 - Yeah, you too - We will go this way 107 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:27,683 Okay, good. 108 00:05:27,727 --> 00:05:29,992 So when You and I speak, I will do it 109 00:05:30,029 --> 00:05:31,998 a phonetic analysis of your sayings 110 00:05:32,031 --> 00:05:33,863 Just talk the way you will usually, 111 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:35,664 as if you're talking to a friend 112 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:37,330 Okay, uh, sorry I'm a little nervous 113 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:40,431 so I hope I speak normally, But, uh, I'm sure I'll do it. 114 00:05:40,473 --> 00:05:43,102 Um, yes, I mean, 115 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,642 as I mentioned to you is calling, 116 00:05:45,678 --> 00:05:47,840 um, I hate the way I talk 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,874 I'm a little confused like why I talk to the way I speak. 118 00:05:51,918 --> 00:05:54,581 It's like my voice dies when I'm nervous, 119 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:55,849 especially if I'm afraid 120 00:05:55,888 --> 00:05:57,948 about just making myself
look as gay. 121 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:00,425 Like, all this sort of stops moving and... 122 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:01,460 Good. 123 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:03,828 Lots of people switch code. 124 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:07,561 Lots of people switch code. 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,762 p> 126 00:06:09,802 --> 00:06:11,964 So if you see a young person... Maybe a little girl 127 00:06:12,004 --> 00:06:13,563 who is three years old playing with a doll, 128 00:06:13,606 --> 00:06:14,665 Well , when's the time To make the doll sleep, 129 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:16,403 they use the voice of their parents. 130 00:06:16,442 --> 00:06:18,138 So what happens sometimes, 131 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:20,074 when people do a lot of things from code-switching, 132 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:22,082 they crash in it 133 00:06:22,115 --> 00:06:24,482 and they forgot what they used to sound like 134 00:06:24,517 --> 00:06:26,611 or what was the opposite side. 135 00:06:26,652 --> 00:06:28,450 I didn't... I never really thought about it like that 136 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:30,980 as only a part... we do a lot of code redirects, 137 00:06:31,023 --> 00:06:32,548 and I feel like I'm the whole map, 138 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:34,458 and sometimes my voice comes out in one direction, 139 00:06:34,494 --> 00:06:35,689 and sometimes comes out Another way. 140 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:36,728 - And I'm like... - Mm- hmm. 141 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:38,391 - What is my true voice? - Mm-hmm. 142 00:06:38,431 --> 00:06:39,831 I will confess I want, like, 143 00:06:39,866 --> 00:06:41,027 learn how to sound straight. 144 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:43,662 Like, I think that is only normal, 145 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:45,695 unusual ways of talking, like that... 146 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:48,139 I just... it would be nice to be able to speak like that. 147 00:06:48,174 --> 00:06:49,174 All right. 148 00:06:49,175 --> 00:06:51,406 I have a good picture of what happened with your speech... 149 00:06:51,444 --> 00:06:52,444 Good. Good. 150 00:06:52,445 --> 00:06:53,445 Also what do you expect to achieve. 151 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:54,446 Good. 152 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:55,447 So what I hear 153 00:06:55,448 --> 00:06:56,472 is a little nasality. 154 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:57,516 Mm-hmm. 155 00:06:57,517 --> 00:06:59,486 I feel like I'm sounding so fierce, 156 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,921 and so many other gay men sound very angry, 157 00:07:02,955 --> 00:07:04,719 and, like , I think is one of the reasons 158 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:06,749 people find too much gay voices at once 159 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,625 some sort of grid because of that nationality. 160 00:07:08,661 --> 00:07:09,661 Yes. 161 00:07:09,695 --> 00:07:11,596 You did a lot of up-talking 162 00:07:11,631 --> 00:07:13,657 You ended... You always end. 163 00:07:13,699 --> 00:07:15,031 Even if you make a statement, 164 00:07:15,067 --> 00:07:16,194 you end up here. 165 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,632 Sometimes holds on to the word 166 00:07:18,671 --> 00:07:22,039 " Phone, be, alone, no. " 167 00:07:22,074 --> 00:07:23,074 Good? 168 00:07:23,075 --> 00:07:24,907 You just hang on to it. 169 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:26,469 So we will keep it short. 170 00:07:26,512 --> 00:07:28,208 So just try Oklahoma. 171 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:29,448 Oklahoma. 172 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:30,449 Ocean. 173 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:31,450 Ocean. 174 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:32,510 Au gratin 175 00:07:33,686 --> 00:07:34,847 - You threw me with that one - Au gratin A little French. 176 00:07:34,887 --> 00:07:36,014 - You threw me with that one - Good. 177 00:07:36,015 --> 00:07:36,988 Good. Sorry. 178 00:07:36,989 --> 00:07:38,651 Au gratin 179 00:07:38,691 --> 00:07:39,920 Um... 180 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:41,757 Uh, au gratin 181 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:42,794 Good. p> 182 00:07:42,795 --> 00:07:44,559 I see that your work is really lying 183 00:07:44,597 --> 00:07:46,896 in terms of your rhythm and intonation, 184 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:48,492 sing-song pattern, 185 00:07:48,534 --> 00:07:50,969 and find that sound it is convenient for you, 186 00:07:51,003 --> 00:07:52,198 it will work for you 187 00:07:52,238 --> 00:07:55,208 So you get the code-switch, but volitional 188 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:57,005 So as not to get stuck, 189 00:07:57,043 --> 00:07:58,477 you have a sound that enters. 190 00:07:58,511 --> 00:08:00,104 - I want the sound to enter. - All right ? 191 00:08:00,146 --> 00:08:01,478 Very good Thank you very much. 192 00:08:01,514 --> 00:08:02,846 What a pleasure, David. 193 00:08:02,882 --> 00:08:05,943 You know, when he showed me how am I speak, um, 194 00:08:05,985 --> 00:08:09,046 You know, when he showed me how was my "O" sound, like "Ooo." 195 00:08:09,088 --> 00:08:11,614 You know... that... I don't think it's very important 196 00:08:11,657 --> 00:08:12,784 how do I want my Os to sound. 197 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:13,825 I don't know anyone 198 00:08:13,826 --> 00:08:15,590 really wants their Os < br /> sounds like that 199 00:08:15,628 --> 00:08:16,721 Oakling. 200 00:08:16,762 --> 00:08:17,762 Oakum. 201 00:08:17,797 --> 00:08:18,797 Oatmeal. 202 00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:19,798 Oaxacan. 203 00:08:19,799 --> 00:08:20,823 Screw it. 204 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:21,867 Good. 205 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:27,204 Fat ogres owe you Mrs. O & apos; Malley some oatmeal. 206 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Harry marries Kari 207 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:31,868 and commits hara-left. 208 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:35,872 I wonder when are all gay getting married , 209 00:08:35,915 --> 00:08:39,181 if they will start do the left-hand 210 00:08:39,218 --> 00:08:40,550 after they get married 211 00:08:40,586 --> 00:08:41,849 Indigo 212 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:44,050 Indigo 213 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:46,959 Halibut. 214 00:08:47,026 --> 00:08:50,963 Roberto passed out that the fish was local. 215 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:52,932 And cheap, to boot. 216 00:08:52,965 --> 00:08:56,596 My pants have jam stains. 217 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:58,898 - Hi. - Hello! 218 00:08:58,938 --> 00:09:00,736 - How are you doing? - good 219 00:09:00,773 --> 00:09:02,571 - Hi. - How are you ? 220 00:09:02,608 --> 00:09:03,667 - good - Hi. 221 00:09:03,709 --> 00:09:05,644 Okay, high drinks. 222 00:09:05,678 --> 00:09:07,909 Yes, they look beautiful. 223 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:09,677 - Cheers. - Cheers, queers. 224 00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:10,715 Eyes 225 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:13,083 Mmm. Mmm. 226 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:14,246 I ask one of us a mutual friend... 227 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:15,287 Yes. 228 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,917 Who sounds gayest of all of us he knows... 229 00:09:17,957 --> 00:09:20,051 - And I won the award? - And you won 230 00:09:20,092 --> 00:09:21,993 I think that Sam is a more performative person. 231 00:09:23,029 --> 00:09:24,029 - No, I did. - Yeah. 232 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:25,326 I just thought that... that's you 233 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:27,557 So when he said Sam... You know, 234 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,068 sounds gayer than most of our friends, 235 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:31,332 I mean, I think we have something else a friend I won't mention 236 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:34,063 That also sounds pretty gay. 237 00:09:34,106 --> 00:09:36,598 So... and I don't think that they sound less gay 238 00:09:36,642 --> 00:09:38,873 than Sam, honestly, so... 239 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:40,345 Where do you rank yourself 240 00:09:41,847 --> 00:09:43,315 I mean, I... I will say it 241 00:09:43,349 --> 00:09:46,319 I'm just one... one shade is lighter than you. 242 00:09:46,352 --> 00:09:49,117 Maybe about 3, but maybe I... 243 00:09:49,155 --> 00:09:50,783 Maybe I'm fanciful. 244 00:09:50,823 --> 00:09:53,019 > 245 00:09:54,026 --> 00:09:55,187 So do I sound gay? 246 00:09:57,163 --> 00:09:58,654 If you say it like that, you do 247 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:00,257 Okay, let me repeat it again question. 248 00:10:00,299 --> 00:10:01,927 "Do I sound gay?" 249 00:10:01,968 --> 00:10:03,698 Do you think I sound gay? 250 00:10:03,736 --> 00:10:05,204 - Yes, I did - Yes. 251 00:10:05,237 --> 00:10:07,638 But I don't think it sounds 252 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:08,936 as bad as you think. 253 00:10:08,975 --> 00:10:10,967 So, um... 254 00:10:12,645 --> 00:10:14,011 It's interesting that you chose the word bad 255 00:10:14,046 --> 00:10:15,708 - That's right. - Do you mean bad? 256 00:10:15,748 --> 00:10:16,909 - No, I didn't mean that. - You said bad 257 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:17,973 Sorry, I didn't mean like that 258 00:10:18,017 --> 00:10:19,041 - No, he said bad words. - I know. 259 00:10:19,085 --> 00:10:20,212 I said you challenged him. 260 00:10:20,252 --> 00:10:21,618 I didn't challenge you. 261 00:10:21,654 --> 00:10:23,247 I have the impression that you think sounds bad. 262 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:24,621 - That's why I said that. - Right 263 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:27,092 Um, but yes, I'm not think of it, like, 264 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:30,187 this off-the-chart thing 265 00:10:30,229 --> 00:10:32,824 that you have the impression of , you know 266 00:10:32,865 --> 00:10:34,265 But when you say bad, 267 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:35,996 you mean something negative, obviously 268 00:10:36,035 --> 00:10:37,663 Yes, but I mean I... 269 00:10:37,703 --> 00:10:39,365 I interpret David feelings about this 270 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:42,136 and feelings about the whole project is bad. 271 00:10:42,174 --> 00:10:43,174 You know, like... I mean, 272 00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:44,939 he has negative feelings about his voice, 273 00:10:44,977 --> 00:10:48,846 about the perception it creates, so I just... 274 00:10:48,881 --> 00:10:51,316 And you don't feel it at all, yourself 275 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:53,876 I have, you know, sort of a generic self-hatred 276 00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:56,787 created around < br /> my gay, you know 277 00:10:56,822 --> 00:10:59,121 But... if my voice is part from it, then maybe, 278 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:00,820 but I don't think I can say it 279 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:04,422 is the only one, you know, or the main one. 280 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:05,723 Is your voice part of it? 281 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:07,825 Sure, that's part from that. 282 00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:09,893 I think I feel out of sync with my voice 283 00:11:09,935 --> 00:11:12,234 and uh, uh... 284 00:11:13,239 --> 00:11:15,071 And, at least, in my opinion 285 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:17,440 And, at least, in my opinion 286 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,670 p> 287 00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:22,341 like that anxiety about sounding too gay 288 00:11:22,381 --> 00:11:23,679 So, okay, let's see what is like not sounding gay, 289 00:11:23,716 --> 00:11:27,050 from what my voice should be sounds like, so... 290 00:11:27,086 --> 00:11:28,418 But you can also argue, like, 291 00:11:28,454 --> 00:11:30,719 why don't you accept it how how are you? 292 00:11:30,756 --> 00:11:32,088 What's wrong with you? 293 00:11:32,124 --> 00:11:33,148 I mean, because I think, you know, 294 00:11:33,192 --> 00:11:35,684 for myself, or you, /> For others, like, 295 00:11:35,728 --> 00:11:37,390 when I think about it at a rational level, 296 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:39,092 Like, there is nothing wrong with you 297 00:11:39,131 --> 00:11:40,190 Nothing wrong with my voice 298 00:11:40,232 --> 00:11:41,325 This is my voice 299 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:42,460 This is who I am 300 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:44,295 That's a beautiful thing. 301 00:11:44,336 --> 00:11:46,430 We never spoke about this idea 302 00:11:46,472 --> 00:11:48,941 until you lift it 303 00:11:48,974 --> 00:11:51,205 I don't know anyone else I've talked about it too. 304 00:11:51,243 --> 00:11:52,243 Do you know what I mean? 305 00:11:52,278 --> 00:11:54,076 So I think there is this, 306 00:11:54,113 --> 00:11:56,412 Obviously, all of us are aware of 307 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:58,179 that hasn't been discussed. 308 00:11:58,217 --> 00:11:59,217 I mean, this is something... 309 00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:00,709 Maybe this, like , the elephant in the room 310 00:12:00,753 --> 00:12:02,278 that you talked about 311 00:12:06,425 --> 00:12:08,417 I feel uncomfortable in the way I have heard 312 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:10,123 for many years years, but like, 313 00:12:10,162 --> 00:12:11,790 there's nothing I can do it. 314 00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:13,459 Do you think you sound gay? 315 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:14,797 Mm, no 316 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,302 I hope not. 317 00:12:16,335 --> 00:12:18,497 I used to hear my voice now 318 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,934 When I first heard it, 319 00:12:20,973 --> 00:12:24,034 I frankly, will be surprised. 320 00:12:24,076 --> 00:12:27,740 I often hear myself, like, in a video, 321 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:29,373 I am very self-aware, 322 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:32,146 and I thought, "Oh, my God, I sound very gay." 323 00:12:32,184 --> 00:12:33,447 Have you ever listened to you? 324 00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:35,011 and thought, "Lord, I sound gay"? 325 00:12:35,888 --> 00:12:36,888 Um... 326 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:39,090 I have to... 327 00:12:39,091 --> 00:12:42,926 I have to say... If I say no, I will lie. 328 00:12:42,962 --> 00:12:48,060 This is amazing, rude awakening 329 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,262 Please leave a message, good? 330 00:12:50,302 --> 00:12:52,828 You see me... I don't sound like that 331 00:12:52,872 --> 00:12:55,103 No, that's how you sound. 332 00:12:55,141 --> 00:12:58,111 In our society, men belong to for certain statuses, 333 00:12:58,144 --> 00:13:00,841 and women, they belong to certain statuses, 334 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,906 and male status is the highest status 335 00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:07,249 If I'm at the hotel and I call the front desk, 336 00:13:07,286 --> 00:13:09,278 they always say, 337 00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:11,552 "We will have it Until you, Mom. " 338 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:12,791 And I thought," really? 339 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:14,351 Am I really voice like a woman? " 340 00:13:14,393 --> 00:13:19,024 I'm not... I'm just... I'm not I think I sound like... woman. 341 00:13:19,064 --> 00:13:22,330 I think I sound like someone very small one. 342 00:13:22,368 --> 00:13:25,099 You know, like... like, this height. 343 00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:26,969 It took three years to find a boyfriend 344 00:13:27,006 --> 00:13:29,271 People don't want to date feminine man who sounds gay. 345 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:31,277 I don't like when someone sounds gay, 346 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:32,505 like, sounds very feminine. 347 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:34,036 I don't like it. This is just a turn-off. 348 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:35,240 Why don't you like it? 349 00:13:36,248 --> 00:13:37,910 I don't know, because I feel like mens 350 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:38,950 and womens are womens. 351 00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:40,577 He really started Pouring chai into my throat, 352 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,516 but went, like, everywhere; > it goes from, like... 353 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:44,285 Literally, okay? This one person complained... 354 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:45,848 We didn't talk about it, 355 00:13:45,891 --> 00:13:47,189 but some gay men are afraid 356 00:13:47,226 --> 00:13:49,855 their voices sound too effeminate. 357 00:13:51,096 --> 00:13:53,156 If I don't have confidence in myself, 358 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,065 I am no different. 359 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:58,161 I'm afraid my voice expels other gay people... 360 00:13:59,171 --> 00:14:01,970 Not to mention the world. 361 00:14:02,007 --> 00:14:04,476 We know exactly what you are about, Mr. Limbaugh. 362 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,001 What am I about, sir? 363 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:07,536 Tell me, Mr. New Castrati. 364 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:09,378 Exactly what what I do, sir 365 00:14:09,415 --> 00:14:11,907 Morgan mengatakan, mengutip, "Jika anaknya gay, 366 00:14:11,951 --> 00:14:13,943 "I'd better go home and talk to him like a man 367 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:16,979 " and no... he mimics gay with a high-pitched voice... 368 00:14:17,022 --> 00:14:19,048 "or he will pull out a knife 369 00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:21,890 and stab him a little N-words to death." 370 00:14:21,927 --> 00:14:22,986 A Ross County student 371 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,588 said that he was intimidated and beaten for being gay 372 00:14:25,631 --> 00:14:27,361 talking for the first time 373 00:14:27,399 --> 00:14:30,301 because this video was recorded beating go public 374 00:14:30,336 --> 00:14:31,429 Why are you talking like a girl? 375 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:33,063 Why are you walking like that? You are so weird 376 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:35,098 If I see two people blowing each other... 377 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:36,267 and I don't know why I saw them do it... 378 00:14:36,308 --> 00:14:37,308 but if I just happened... 379 00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:40,539 I will respect them. 380 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:41,579 I will respect them. 381 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,580 "Hello, gentleman." 382 00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:44,447 Whatever, you know. 383 00:14:44,483 --> 00:14:46,111 But if one of them takes his penis out of his mouth 384 00:14:46,151 --> 00:14:47,517 and start acting all faggy 385 00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:50,421 and say annoying faggy things... 386 00:14:51,423 --> 00:14:53,517 "You know, the people of Phoenix are Phoenicians, " 387 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:54,618 or something like that... 388 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:58,928 I'll be like, " Hey shut up, homo. " 389 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:01,294 Homo! 390 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:03,632 I know that gay voice. 391 00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:05,228 "You shouldn't be to use it for that." 392 00:15:05,271 --> 00:15:07,399 Silence, homo. 393 00:15:07,439 --> 00:15:09,237 I speak like that sometimes. 394 00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:11,176 Like, I will never call a gay gay man 396 00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:13,478 But... 399 00:15:19,209 --> 00:15:20,051 I will be like, "Hey... " 400 00:15:20,052 --> 00:15:22,351 " Shut up, homo. " 401 00:15:22,388 --> 00:15:23,947 Fagot! 402 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:35,363 I struggled for decades to embrace being gay. 403 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:41,632 I know I should accept it myself like me. 404 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:48,110 But, even now, this voice still disturbs me. 405 00:15:49,415 --> 00:15:51,941 I'm ashamed to say this, But, you know, sometimes 406 00:15:51,984 --> 00:15:55,477 someone will say, "I don't know you're gay. " 407 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:58,719 And it's like, why does make me feel good, you know 408 00:16:00,392 --> 00:16:04,090 And I hate myself for thinking , and I think... 409 00:16:04,129 --> 00:16:05,461 Um... 410 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,525 Yes, this is very disturbing. 411 00:16:09,568 --> 00:16:12,060 I think I'm outside of that. 412 00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:16,599 What is the problem if someone Think I'm gay 413 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:17,701 when I open my mouth? 414 00:16:17,743 --> 00:16:19,712 Like, why do I have it? problem with that? 415 00:16:22,614 --> 00:16:23,741 Is there anything weird 416 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:27,078 I can't shake the idea is it changing my voice? 417 00:16:27,119 --> 00:16:28,314 Come see. 418 00:16:28,354 --> 00:16:31,984 Oh, cats, cats, cats 419 00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:34,255 what is it the benefits of gay being heard? 420 00:16:38,630 --> 00:16:40,565 Right now, all I can think of 421 00:16:40,599 --> 00:16:42,227 is the loss. 422 00:16:44,770 --> 00:16:47,467 "At the top of a hill in Laurel Canyon... 423 00:16:47,506 --> 00:16:48,735 " At the top of a hill... " 424 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:50,470 - Good morning, David. - Hey 425 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:52,102 - What are you doing today? - Good 426 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:53,237 - Nice to meet you. - You too. 427 00:16:53,278 --> 00:16:54,302 - Enter. - thank you 428 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:55,346 Thoughts. 429 00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:56,781 Riots. 430 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,040 Off 431 00:16:58,083 --> 00:16:59,312 Ide. 432 00:16:59,351 --> 00:17:00,351 Is that too long? 433 00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:01,352 No, you're good. 434 00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:02,387 Ideas. 435 00:17:02,388 --> 00:17:03,583 Arises. 436 00:17:03,622 --> 00:17:05,147 Dynasty. 437 00:17:17,736 --> 00:17:20,604 Just like me struggling to sound less gay... 438 00:17:21,807 --> 00:17:24,470 New York legalized gay marriage. 439 00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:34,377 Gay pride takes place only a few days later. 440 00:17:35,487 --> 00:17:38,423 The great Marshal happened to be Dan Savage, 441 00:17:38,457 --> 00:17:40,289 one of my heroes 442 00:17:40,325 --> 00:17:41,349 Dan! 443 00:17:41,427 --> 00:17:42,656 Dan! 444 00:17:42,728 --> 00:17:44,094 And! 445 00:17:44,129 --> 00:17:45,529 Why did you think of so many gay men 446 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:48,329 so self-aware about sounding gay? 447 00:17:50,135 --> 00:17:51,135 Many gay men 448 00:17:51,136 --> 00:17:52,798 self-aware about sounding gay 449 00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:56,536 because we were persecuted for that when we were young 450 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,510 You know, when you are young and closed and try to get past it, 451 00:17:58,544 --> 00:18:02,208 you are the police yourself for proof of who might betray you, 452 00:18:02,247 --> 00:18:04,239 and how you walk and how do you talk 453 00:18:04,283 --> 00:18:05,683 These two things... 454 00:18:05,717 --> 00:18:09,415 and so many gay men take it to adulthood 455 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:14,225 When I'm in high school, I... 456 00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:15,352 when I first started going through puberty, 457 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:17,693 Actually I was really a transvestite personality. 458 00:18:17,729 --> 00:18:19,288 Like, I watched an old family movie 459 00:18:19,331 --> 00:18:21,630 and that was actually very, It hurts me to watch 461 00:18:23,469 --> 00:18:27,406 And that's the first time that I was attacked 462 00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:29,840 to be gay Because of how I sounded. 463 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Your teen years, 464 00:18:35,481 --> 00:18:36,481 especially your early teen years, 465 00:18:36,482 --> 00:18:38,644 > 466 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:41,279 and so I remember changing my voice 467 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,781 or trying to sound less gay just to survive in high school, 468 00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:48,692 and this is rather sad
It happened like that. 469 00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:55,496 It's my grandmother's angel. 470 00:18:55,534 --> 00:18:58,595 It was in the hallway from our house all the time, 471 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:00,128 right in front of the door 472 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,733 p> 473 00:19:02,774 --> 00:19:04,265 When do other children? start making fun of you 474 00:19:04,309 --> 00:19:05,868 for the way you talk 475 00:19:05,911 --> 00:19:08,710 Now, when I'm in third grade, People start fun 476 00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:10,877 From the way I speak, and rightly so when bullying starts 477 00:19:10,916 --> 00:19:12,179 Why are you talking like a girl? 478 00:19:12,217 --> 00:19:13,276 Why are you walking like that? 479 00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:16,755 My voice is high. 480 00:19:16,788 --> 00:19:18,188 I, like, little girl whatever accent 481 00:19:18,223 --> 00:19:19,223 I will sit there talk to a friend my friend 482 00:19:19,224 --> 00:19:20,283 "Homo." 483 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:22,260 The video is difficult to watch. 484 00:19:22,294 --> 00:19:24,889 A new student of Unioto High School was beaten by his classmates, 485 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:27,832 while the others stand and don't do anything 486 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:36,800 Mr. Goff, there's a fight! 487 00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:39,302 According to you you can choose more 488 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:40,642 because you are more sissy? 489 00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,705 Because I'm different, and I'm not afraid to be. 490 00:19:43,715 --> 00:19:44,808 I feel comfortable with my own skin. 491 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:45,874 I'm a diva. 492 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:47,750 They like... they don't like it 493 00:19:49,388 --> 00:19:50,754 Zachary, why not? come out for a moment? 494 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:51,789 Why? 495 00:19:51,790 --> 00:19:52,790 p> 496 00:19:52,791 --> 00:19:53,791 Because I want to tell him something 497 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:56,785 I can't hear anything. 498 00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:00,523 He has moments where... 499 00:20:00,566 --> 00:20:04,697 In front of people, he is always very happy and dizzy and... 500 00:20:06,338 --> 00:20:07,533 But he can't hide from me. 501 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:08,768 I see the pain. 502 00:20:08,807 --> 00:20:09,900 > 503 00:20:11,677 --> 00:20:14,374 I know it's there. 504 00:20:14,413 --> 00:20:16,939 Many gay teenagers are really 505 00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:18,610 very worried about how they sound 506 00:20:21,453 --> 00:20:23,285 because it attracts violence. 507 00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:25,223 It's nice to see you, like, congratulations 508 00:20:26,625 --> 00:20:27,957 Yeah, Destiny & apos; s Child 509 00:20:27,993 --> 00:20:30,428 And, uh... wait. 510 00:20:30,462 --> 00:20:31,896 Which... isn't Christina... what song? congratulations? ? 511 00:20:31,930 --> 00:20:32,930 ♪ I am a survivor ♪ 512 00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:33,931 That is the Son of Destiny. 513 00:20:33,932 --> 00:20:35,560 That is the Son of Destiny. 514 00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:36,694 - combat. - Fighter. 515 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:37,759 ♪ Thank you for making me ♪ 516 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:38,964 ♪ fighters ♪ 517 00:20:39,004 --> 00:20:40,004 Me too. 518 00:20:45,477 --> 00:20:48,447 I don't remember what I sound like growing up. 519 00:20:51,817 --> 00:20:54,377 I've been blocked out of my childhood. 520 00:20:57,422 --> 00:21:00,950 I grew up on the Bible Belt in the 1980s. 521 00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:05,823 - Wow, look at all this. - Ha! 522 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:10,768 Okay, what do I see here? 523 00:21:10,802 --> 00:21:12,293 Wait for it. 524 00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:13,805 You don't know who is this sweet kid? 525 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:14,863 No. 526 00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:24,483 I have to see this more often. 527 00:21:29,888 --> 00:21:33,347 At that time, homosexuality was evil 528 00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:36,658 and the cause of the new outbreak was called AIDS. 529 00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:40,866 Homosexuals practice sodomy. 530 00:21:40,899 --> 00:21:44,597 You admit homosexuality practice sodomy, don't you? 531 00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:45,729 Yes sir. 532 00:21:45,771 --> 00:21:48,036 Dan itu bertentangan dengan hukum banyak negara bagian, bukan? 533 00:21:48,073 --> 00:21:49,073 Sir, I... I don't know... 534 00:21:49,074 --> 00:21:50,074 And against the court... 535 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,073 There is nothing gay about these people 536 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:56,043 Engaging in extraordinary offensive and rebellious actions 537 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:58,880 that have caused the proliferation of AIDS. 538 00:22:05,057 --> 00:22:06,423 There are no gay people openly. 539 00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:09,394 I mean, there are no people... adults not gay in the open 540 00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,397 in... at that time. 541 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:15,367 Um, I mean me, maybe more especially where we live. 542 00:22:19,037 --> 00:22:22,940 In high school, I started to call homo. 543 00:22:22,974 --> 00:22:26,775 That was mainly Satanic insults at that time 544 00:22:26,812 --> 00:22:30,681 "Fagot" was always delivered with, like, extra tenacity. 545 00:22:30,716 --> 00:22:33,948 Like, no, I really mean you are gay 546 00:22:33,985 --> 00:22:35,078 You know what I mean? 547 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,055 I know what that means, 548 00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:40,082 and I know what a phagot sounds like 549 00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:44,722 because gay people are on TV. 550 00:22:44,763 --> 00:22:46,561 Who is generally more handsome? 551 00:22:46,598 --> 00:22:48,726 Elves or fairies? 552 00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:51,629 Looks not everything. 553 00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:54,372 I, uh. .. 554 00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,840 I will go for fairies. 555 00:23:01,012 --> 00:23:03,709 I hope I don't go anyone 556 00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:05,513 How do I know they are gay? 557 00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:07,747 Listen to how they speak. 558 00:23:07,786 --> 00:23:09,846 I'll play that part again... 559 00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:12,858 So all of you can shout "Hey," okay? 560 00:23:16,595 --> 00:23:17,595 Hey! 561 00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:21,462 The only way I can get my wife interested in romance 562 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,901 is if I dress up like... 563 00:23:23,935 --> 00:23:25,699 Blank. 564 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:26,864 Look at Liberace. 565 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:28,066 "Oh, Jesus," You know. 566 00:23:28,106 --> 00:23:29,574 "Oh, I swear." 567 00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:32,168 And Truman Capote, you know. 568 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,073 They all have that voice. 569 00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:35,603 Do you know what I mean? 570 00:23:35,647 --> 00:23:37,616 What's closest, 571 00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:40,585 in physical sensation, to orgasm 572 00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:43,418 And I came up with the idea that it sneezed. 573 00:23:50,862 --> 00:23:52,455 Like other parts of America, 574 00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:55,763 I was fascinated by this strange celebrity... 575 00:23:55,801 --> 00:23:57,565 Wow, You must have your own show. 576 00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,093 I already have. 577 00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:03,199 But I know that taboo to resemble them in any way. 578 00:24:04,976 --> 00:24:06,535 I cleaned up my actions, 579 00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:08,774 and I stopped called homo. 580 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:12,148 So I'm really shy like a child, 581 00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:13,982 uh, and I'm... partly because I'm gay, 582 00:24:14,019 --> 00:24:15,487 and I'm like,
"I'll just keep quiet, 583 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,216 and nobody knows that I'm here," 584 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:18,788 and, you know, I know I want to adjust yourself. 585 00:24:18,824 --> 00:24:22,158 When you were a child or a teenager, 586 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,789 I don't know you're gay. 587 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:27,061 Never... never thought of me < br /> that you are gay 588 00:24:27,098 --> 00:24:29,192 Like, I never even thought in that term 589 00:24:29,234 --> 00:24:33,228 And I never thought you sounded like that 590 00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:36,832 We already have this previous off-camera conversation, 591 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:38,776 But no, no that gay voice. 592 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:40,711 Yes. Do I sound gay now? 593 00:24:40,745 --> 00:24:41,745 Yes, you did 594 00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:44,943 Are you surprised? When do I come out of the closet? 595 00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:49,917 I am stunned. 596 00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:54,518 You always seem very normal to me 597 00:24:55,794 --> 00:24:59,561 We never deal with things like that 598 00:25:03,235 --> 00:25:05,500 I will never know for sure 599 00:25:05,537 --> 00:25:07,904 what I sound like growing up 600 00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:09,703 There is no strong evidence. 601 00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:14,179 I don't have all my voice recordings. 602 00:25:14,212 --> 00:25:17,876 Only this Super-8 movie My grandfather was shot. 603 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,988 How and when did I study sound gay? 604 00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:28,116 Where is my gay voice? come from? 605 00:25:29,928 --> 00:25:32,989 Each of us is presented with lots and lots of models 606 00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:34,624 what languages should sound like 607 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:38,000 So we hear men, we hear women, we hear children our age, 608 00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:40,005 we hear adults, we hear older adults, 609 00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:42,030 and in all this interaction, 610 00:25:42,073 --> 00:25:45,134 we have, uh, you know, different opportunities 611 00:25:45,176 --> 00:25:47,941 to replicate different aspects < br /> from the words of these people 612 00:25:47,979 --> 00:25:49,811 My father works on the train, 613 00:25:49,848 --> 00:25:51,817 and he and my brother join, 614 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:53,978 and my sister always wants to talk to my father 615 00:25:54,019 --> 00:25:55,078 or go to the workshop, 616 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,783 and I love stay inside reading, 617 00:25:57,822 --> 00:25:59,256 help my mom bake, 618 00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,318 and quietly listen to for her phone call 619 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:03,756 with her boyfriend, 620 00:26:03,795 --> 00:26:06,788 and that, for me, is... fun, 621 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:08,959 and guess who hates gayer? 622 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:12,101 Four goals and seven years ago, 623 00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:14,299 our father gave birth, on this continent, 624 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:16,240 a new nation, was conceived in Liberty, 625 00:26:16,274 --> 00:26:18,072 and dedicated for propositions... 626 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:20,578 I'm interested in how sexual orientation 627 00:26:20,612 --> 00:26:23,275 affects how people make a little difference 628 00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:25,147 as they say speech sounds 629 00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:27,652 Four digits and seven years ago, 630 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:29,746 father we gave birth, on this continent... 631 00:26:29,788 --> 00:26:32,189 T... T... T. 632 00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:35,159 So, usually, we would say... someone would say "continen". 633 00:26:35,193 --> 00:26:36,193 "Continue." 634 00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:37,856 N... n... without release. 635 00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:39,831 And you said con... continent. 636 00:26:39,864 --> 00:26:40,864 "Q." 637 00:26:40,865 --> 00:26:43,858 Did everyone get that? I said "continent-uh." 638 00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:47,771 The most obvious, most women-like gay one. 639 00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:53,711 Micro-variations are tiny differences in pronunciation, 640 00:26:53,745 --> 00:26:57,614 like the difference between, "ss" and "ss." 641 00:26:57,649 --> 00:27:00,118 Two different versions exactly the same sound, 642 00:27:00,151 --> 00:27:02,143 but different people say They are different ways. 643 00:27:03,722 --> 00:27:06,954 Men who sound gay use clearer vocals. 644 00:27:06,992 --> 00:27:09,188 Longer vowel length. 645 00:27:09,227 --> 00:27:11,287 Ss again. 646 00:27:11,329 --> 00:27:13,696 More clear. 647 00:27:13,732 --> 00:27:17,260 Overarticulation Ps, Ts, and Ks. 648 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:21,830 These things all increase for the same phenomenon 649 00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:24,866 already treated with women versus men, on average. 650 00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:29,179 So I made it soft I... my gay choice? 651 00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:30,214 Yes. 652 00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:31,774 Yes, this is interesting. 653 00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:33,682 Maybe you took this when you were little 654 00:27:33,718 --> 00:27:35,880 by listening more to women than men, 655 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,082 by giving more weight for cues 656 00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:39,989 You have started from female speakers 657 00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:41,025 than from male speakers. 658 00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:42,059 Mm-hmm. 659 00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,722 - For some reason. - Mm-hmm. 660 00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:45,788 p> 661 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:47,128 People make fun of me because I'm sluggish 662 00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:51,364 Very? 663 00:27:51,403 --> 00:27:55,204 Like a lot of fuss more than a few extra Ss. 664 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,368 How about that all lisp, lonely things? 665 00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:58,968 I have a problem like that with pronouns. 666 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:00,103 How many Ss are there? in pronouns? 667 00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,704 How do you want to kiss my ass? 668 00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:02,770 There are two more Ss in it. 669 00:28:02,814 --> 00:28:03,941 How do you want to blow me? 670 00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:04,982 What is the problem,
Your wife has a lockjaw? 671 00:28:04,983 --> 00:28:06,144 Have you received it? 672 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:08,744 Yesss... 673 00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:10,688 Sounds like steam coming out. 674 00:28:10,722 --> 00:28:12,020 It's called James. 675 00:28:12,057 --> 00:28:13,057 No Jim. 676 00:28:13,058 --> 00:28:14,287 Not Jimmy. 677 00:28:14,325 --> 00:28:15,793 "Jamesss." 678 00:28:15,827 --> 00:28:17,295 I understand. 679 00:28:17,328 --> 00:28:20,321 I speak therapy to lisp while small. 680 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,334 So are many other gay men I know. 681 00:28:26,004 --> 00:28:28,200 When I think back about... You know, as a child, 682 00:28:28,239 --> 00:28:30,367 while I say that I didn't do it it certainly sounds gay, 683 00:28:30,408 --> 00:28:32,001 I really have lisp. 684 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,842 I have a speech teacher, 685 00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:36,814 a Pak Horischka, 686 00:28:36,848 --> 00:28:41,149 um, who , through school, who helped me 687 00:28:41,186 --> 00:28:42,449 I have a small lisp. 688 00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:44,319 He is a great queen 689 00:28:44,355 --> 00:28:48,816 a little help Long Island Fagot 690 00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:50,920 sounds less gay 691 00:28:50,962 --> 00:28:53,989 I have lisp, and so... 692 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:58,060 it will be "bessst " if I speak like" thisss. " 693 00:28:59,104 --> 00:29:00,902 And I'm still very young then. 694 00:29:00,939 --> 00:29:04,967 Only then I realize, wait a minute. 695 00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:08,377 Like, everyone in the talk class is gay 696 00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:11,474 Like, everyone they brought to that room 697 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:13,951 It feels like that "future homosexuals of America." 698 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:17,454 I've always thought that my lisp 699 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:20,118 had something to do by being gay. 700 00:29:20,158 --> 00:29:23,287 But Ben thinks I hold a straw. 701 00:29:23,328 --> 00:29:26,787 There is absolutely no evidence that gay men lisp. 702 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:28,026 I think we will pursue this 703 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:29,864 frontal and lateral misartic, 704 00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:32,871 and it happens, you know, a subset of gay men... 705 00:29:32,904 --> 00:29:35,100 Gay men who are very conscious of their sexuality 706 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:36,972 and are very interested in, types, 707 00:29:37,008 --> 00:29:38,340 the trajectory their development... 708 00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:39,969 sort of remembers this and attach 709 00:29:40,011 --> 00:29:42,537 some sort of social significance to them. 710 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,842 Ron thinks that back in the day, 711 00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:48,012 Some gay men who allegedly backed up 712 00:29:48,052 --> 00:29:50,920 just S feminine. 713 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:54,323 I thought, maybe it was so true in my generation 714 00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:55,850 that there were many, uh, 715 00:29:55,894 --> 00:29:59,126 confusion between Facing TH's voice... 716 00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:02,828 an S is TH's voice... and only sounds too feminine. 717 00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,267 I asked me to ask you 718 00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:06,464 if you have a letter for us here is wrong 719 00:30:06,504 --> 00:30:07,870 What? 720 00:30:07,906 --> 00:30:09,374 I asked me to ask you if you were 721 00:30:09,407 --> 00:30:10,841 there was a letter for us here because of an error 722 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:11,968 No, not a clue. 723 00:30:12,010 --> 00:30:15,174 He wants Brady's property mail, Larry! 724 00:30:15,213 --> 00:30:18,308 They say something like "Girl", and "Sister," 725 00:30:18,349 --> 00:30:20,318 and, "What's the problem?" 726 00:30:20,351 --> 00:30:21,910 Makes you think. 727 00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:23,285 Hmm. 728 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:26,553 So "th" is a phonological delay. 729 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:30,323 "Sss" can be identified by a speech language pathologist 730 00:30:30,361 --> 00:30:33,559 or by parents as inappropriate gender. 731 00:30:33,598 --> 00:30:35,533 - Oh, it's ok what - Say "sense" now. 732 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:39,368 Listeners see it a voice that sounds gay 733 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:41,134 as a feminine voice. 734 00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:43,437 This is an indicative of a stereotype, 735 00:30:43,474 --> 00:30:45,568 cultural stereotypes. 736 00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:50,514 People want gay men to be like women, 737 00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:52,983 and maybe they were picked up in fact 738 00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:56,112 were many of the characteristics gay voices that were heard 739 00:30:56,154 --> 00:30:58,180 were feminine characteristics. 740 00:30:58,223 --> 00:30:59,316 But they were wrong understand, 741 00:30:59,357 --> 00:31:02,020 because a lot of it sounds gay 742 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,358 comes from straight people 743 00:31:05,964 --> 00:31:08,058 Danny, they just came with the first palette 744 00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:12,264 Eh, and we need these two, that I will take... 745 00:31:12,303 --> 00:31:16,001 People think of me Chris's straight friends sound gay. 746 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,980 We need a chard, red cabbage, and two strawberries. 747 00:31:22,013 --> 00:31:26,212 As a friend suggested, my voice all trebles, no bass... 748 00:31:26,251 --> 00:31:27,310 I think. 749 00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:29,446 Do you hear S? 750 00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:32,548 All treble no bass... I think. 751 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,221 I might imitate my speech 752 00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:39,095 after women I almost grew up. 753 00:31:40,999 --> 00:31:43,525 Chris might do it the same thing. 754 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:45,059 Most of my life, 755 00:31:45,103 --> 00:31:46,901 before I was 12 years old, 756 00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:48,497 I lived in the ashram, 757 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:52,977 so I grew up big, mostly, around a lot of women. 758 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,540 Hey, come on. 759 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,107 My gay friend is growing 760 00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:01,551 < i> close to four athlete's brothers. 761 00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:03,987 He is the most straightforward person I know. 762 00:32:04,022 --> 00:32:05,957 - Right - Hut! 763 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:07,151 See how butch me? 764 00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:11,595 My family, I feel like... You know , 765 00:32:11,629 --> 00:32:12,688 I, quite a lot, were formed 766 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:14,923 like everyone else from my other brothers. 767 00:32:14,966 --> 00:32:17,265 I did everything they did. 768 00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:21,205 I admit would love to sound like him. 769 00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:22,639 The whole family is sports. 771 00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:25,301 Um, watching sports. 772 00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:29,212 Uh, Thanksgiving is planned around the break. 773 00:32:30,248 --> 00:32:31,375 Alright. 774 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:32,679 You're ready? 775 00:32:32,717 --> 00:32:36,552 In our study of 25 men and 46 listeners, 776 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:39,216 average accuracy in guessing 777 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,658 the man's sexual orientation is true 778 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:44,219 only about 60%. 779 00:32:44,262 --> 00:32:45,560 What 780 00:32:45,596 --> 00:32:48,327 So 40% of men 781 00:32:48,366 --> 00:32:50,096 misclassified by the listener. 782 00:32:50,134 --> 00:32:51,659 Either gay men sound straight 783 00:32:51,703 --> 00:32:53,604 or straight men who sounds gay. 784 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,266 What sounds right? 785 00:32:56,307 --> 00:32:58,173 This is a good question. 786 00:32:58,209 --> 00:33:01,145 I don't think it's like that something that sounds straight. 787 00:33:01,179 --> 00:33:03,341 Because , uh... well, 788 00:33:03,381 --> 00:33:06,112 people say I sound straight, 789 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:07,379 and I don't. 790 00:33:07,418 --> 00:33:10,081 Some gay people I know straight, 791 00:33:10,121 --> 00:33:12,716 and some of the weakest people I've met are gay. 792 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:17,422 So, in some cases, don't assume. 793 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:21,499 If I use this usually-women 794 00:33:21,532 --> 00:33:24,366 micro variations as a child, 795 00:33:24,402 --> 00:33:27,031 how is my family not lifted? 796 00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:30,269 Why don't they think? I sound gay? 797 00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:33,039 So, first of all, in considering your own story, 798 00:33:33,077 --> 00:33:35,069 I'll answer that question back to you and say: 799 00:33:35,113 --> 00:33:36,672 we're talking about the difference between 800 00:33:36,714 --> 00:33:39,377 Columbia, South Carolina, > and the city of New York 801 00:33:39,417 --> 00:33:41,477 If so, we can just as easily 802 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,387 talk about a community where it's just taboo 803 00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:47,358 to allow the mind to associate certain sounds 804 00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:49,156 with certain sexuality. 805 00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:50,786 Or it could be something as simple, 806 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,361 we talk about groups of people 807 00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:55,697 who don't have a big shop in their memories, you know, 808 00:33:55,733 --> 00:33:57,725 this is what A gay man sounds like. 809 00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:59,601 Whereas, in New York City, someone can say 810 00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:01,401 "Oh, yes, surely you..." 811 00:34:01,439 --> 00:34:03,271 and, never have living in New York City, 812 00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:04,468 I don't know this is true, 813 00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:06,307 but someone can say, "Oh, yes, you must be 814 00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:08,472 part of urban gay intelligence." 815 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:11,344 Stretch. 816 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:12,748 Stretching. 817 00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:14,719 Zzz. 818 00:34:14,752 --> 00:34:16,277 Relax. 819 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,381 Too much... too much partying happens here 820 00:34:19,424 --> 00:34:21,586 Must be more "ssstraight." 821 00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:22,626 Straight. 822 00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:25,529 Not the hardest, most difficult. 823 00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:28,332 On the other hand, I think, 824 00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,198 what's the difference? does it work 825 00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:35,639 if I... if I say "say" or if I say "say"? 826 00:34:35,673 --> 00:34:40,611 Um, you know, that's what I have to say is important. 827 00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:43,672 They say old habits die hard. 828 00:34:43,714 --> 00:34:46,513 I started thinking they might be right. 829 00:34:46,551 --> 00:34:48,076 And finally it ends 830 00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,554 the first tiring 831 00:34:50,588 --> 00:34:53,752 "S" practice-eh. 832 00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:56,124 I'm struggling a little with my words 833 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,253 p> 834 00:34:57,295 --> 00:35:00,094 - Um... - Fine. 835 00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:03,101 But, I think, for... I think there is a good reason 836 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:05,797 Um, speak in this standard, 837 00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:10,798 how to be confident requires trust 838 00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:12,333 and requires feelings that I tell you something 839 00:35:12,376 --> 00:35:14,868 - I don't ask you - Right 840 00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,809 And just last month just, like, 841 00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:17,848 a difficult month in my life, and... 842 00:35:17,882 --> 00:35:19,578 Mm-hmm. In what? 843 00:35:19,617 --> 00:35:20,880 Uh, in... in my life. 844 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,119 - Down. - In my life. 845 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,679 - Thank you. - Right 846 00:35:23,721 --> 00:35:25,280 So I've found myself, 847 00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:29,317 for speech, uh, tool, 848 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,454 but can't use it. 849 00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:37,160 Life and Time from Porgy and Bess. 850 00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:38,669 Four times Tony won... 851 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:40,535 he won four Tonys? 852 00:35:40,571 --> 00:35:41,766 Let's try again. 853 00:35:47,245 --> 00:35:49,214 Wrong one guy... guys... 854 00:35:49,247 --> 00:35:51,807 wants to know how to tell the driver to go fast. 855 00:35:51,849 --> 00:35:54,216 Others advise him... 856 00:35:54,252 --> 00:35:56,380 Since gay marriage passed, 857 00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:58,855 I continued to be ambushed with the wedding announcement 858 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:01,485 for a new rub, perfect, 859 00:36:01,526 --> 00:36:04,325 happy gay couples in Sunday newspapers. 860 00:36:07,598 --> 00:36:09,726 I shouldn't have done it read "Sunday Style". 861 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:17,270 These two people might be miserable 862 00:36:17,308 --> 00:36:18,708 I'm sure they cheated on each other... 863 00:36:19,777 --> 00:36:21,473 Will do it, and... 864 00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:25,649 Alright, but they really don't look like that 865 00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:29,544 Sigh. 866 00:36:48,806 --> 00:36:51,901 I decided it was time to take out a large weapon. 867 00:36:56,781 --> 00:36:59,615 There is Leonard Bernstein to hit my stomach 868 00:36:59,650 --> 00:37:00,650 - Oh really? - Yeah. 869 00:37:00,685 --> 00:37:02,916 This Bob Corff. 870 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,321 He is a former Broadway leading man 871 00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:07,257 and a famous voice coach, 872 00:37:07,291 --> 00:37:09,886 is famous for helping people sound less gay. 873 00:37:11,929 --> 00:37:13,727 I'm on my way to meet a man 874 00:37:13,764 --> 00:37:15,528 who helped the actor hide 875 00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:19,003 signs of of gay sexuality. 876 00:37:20,304 --> 00:37:21,465 - Hello - Hello How are you doing? 877 00:37:21,505 --> 00:37:23,565 I have people coming for me, uh, 878 00:37:23,608 --> 00:37:25,736 to ask to sound less gay. 879 00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:31,978 I would say it might be between 20 and 50 , a... year. 880 00:37:32,016 --> 00:37:33,245 Yes. Oh. 881 00:37:33,284 --> 00:37:34,284 That's a healthy number. 882 00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:35,285 Yes. 883 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:38,355 Mostly, men, 884 00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:39,584 whether they are gay or not, 885 00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:40,717 Must sound straight. 886 00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:42,420 Whoo-whee! 887 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:43,655 Yes ! 888 00:37:43,694 --> 00:37:45,287 I'm tired of you stupid missions. 889 00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:49,532 This is an interesting display because, in this business, 890 00:37:49,567 --> 00:37:52,628 many people are casting , Many producers are gay, 891 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:54,605 and even they won't do it hiring someone 892 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,370 because people in central America 893 00:37:57,408 --> 00:37:59,877 won't be able to accept that 894 00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:02,470 Ugh, look at swimming trunks. 895 00:38:02,513 --> 00:38:04,482 This is $ 90 million aircraft. 896 00:38:04,515 --> 00:38:06,541 Steward, 21-18 people. 897 00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:09,816 Excuse me, sir Sweatpants. 898 00:38:09,854 --> 00:38:11,789 We need to check that bag 899 00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:14,817 I can only playing very certain types of gay guys 900 00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:16,760 Because if it's gay guys 901 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,422 it's actually, like, fat role, 902 00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:20,055 like, straight actors will play it, 903 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,393 and if it's a gay guy "great and awesome body," 904 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:24,493 Well, I can't play that. 905 00:38:24,535 --> 00:38:26,697 So I just play sad, 906 00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:29,400 self-haters, bitter queens. 907 00:38:31,876 --> 00:38:32,969 And how do you... 908 00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:36,310 how do you feel about Thrown in that role? 909 00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:39,543 You know, Ruth Buzzi used to say, 910 00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:41,779 "I'll take it the role of a bad girl, 911 00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:43,754 Because I started working. " 912 00:38:43,788 --> 00:38:45,654 So I will give you practice here... 913 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:50,528 That I think will be very helpful. 914 00:38:50,561 --> 00:38:51,961 - Good. - Good. 915 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:56,990 I want to teach you American standard melodies. 916 00:38:57,034 --> 00:39:00,027 Good speakers, people who are leaders 917 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:02,905 that make people do what they want them to do... 918 00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:03,940 Mm-hmm. 919 00:39:03,941 --> 00:39:07,343 Have a pattern, which is this: 920 00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:08,778 - I'm right. - Mm-hmm. 921 00:39:08,813 --> 00:39:09,872 I'm always right. 922 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:11,906 And what I want you to do goes like this: 923 00:39:11,949 --> 00:39:13,781 up, down 924 00:39:13,818 --> 00:39:15,411 Good. Up, down 925 00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:17,354 No , You go, "Up, down." 926 00:39:17,388 --> 00:39:18,515 One two. 927 00:39:18,556 --> 00:39:19,556 What is the first number 928 00:39:19,557 --> 00:39:20,557 One. 929 00:39:20,558 --> 00:39:21,753 And what's under it? 930 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:22,792 Two. 931 00:39:22,793 --> 00:39:23,886 - are you sure - Hello 932 00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:25,055 You will leave, "Hello ! " 933 00:39:25,096 --> 00:39:26,120 Hello. 934 00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:27,559 You will leave, "Hello!" 935 00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:29,533 Up, down 936 00:39:29,567 --> 00:39:31,035 UP what spell? 937 00:39:31,068 --> 00:39:32,434 Up. 938 00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:33,563 Are you sure 939 00:39:33,604 --> 00:39:34,936 - Stop. - Mm-hmm. 940 00:39:34,972 --> 00:39:35,972 Stop. 941 00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:36,973 You will leave, "Stop . " 942 00:39:36,974 --> 00:39:37,974 Good. 943 00:39:37,975 --> 00:39:39,068 - Stop. - Stop. 944 00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:40,110 Right. 945 00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:42,740 I have never been trained to be aggressive 946 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,409 I have never been trained to be authoritative 947 00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:48,442 It's hard for me to be like, "It's there." 948 00:39:48,486 --> 00:39:50,546 But... but... no, that is actually pretty good 949 00:39:50,588 --> 00:39:51,588 - is that good? - First. 950 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:55,754 So... but that's if you want to have that power 951 00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:56,793 Mm-hmm. 952 00:39:56,794 --> 00:39:58,387 If you hear it, you will go, "Oh, my God, 953 00:39:58,429 --> 00:40:00,660 p> 954 00:40:00,698 --> 00:40:01,757 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 955 00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:03,995 I would recommend me Speaker Sound Method, 956 00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:05,034 which is a blue CD. 957 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:06,069 Good. 958 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,733 That will give you more chest resonance 959 00:40:08,773 --> 00:40:10,173 instead of being, "Mm-hmm," 960 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:11,501 here like that, 961 00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:13,408 You enter your body. 962 00:40:13,444 --> 00:40:14,639 Mm-hmm. 963 00:40:14,678 --> 00:40:17,147 This will really strengthen and lower your voice 964 00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:32,497 When I was in LA, I always stayed with my friend Kayla. 965 00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:33,657 All right, so what should we talk about? 966 00:40:33,697 --> 00:40:35,188 Okay, I will sit like... more like a straight person. 967 00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:36,433 Good. 968 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:37,697 Yes, that's good. That's good. 969 00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:39,533 I'll try to put some of me 970 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:41,198 Straight lessons to work here 971 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:42,566 You have already taken straight lessons 972 00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:44,905 Yes; I've gone to a speech therapist. 973 00:40:44,942 --> 00:40:46,103 Where do you want to go eat? 974 00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:49,508 Well, I love restaurants this. 975 00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:50,981 Some great French food. 976 00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:52,449 It's like, if I have to express my opinion, 977 00:40:52,483 --> 00:40:53,507 is very... 978 00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:54,551 Do you like Italian? 979 00:40:54,585 --> 00:40:55,585 I like Italians. 980 00:40:55,586 --> 00:40:56,986 Because there's something great Italian place, 981 00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:58,649 like , two blocks from my house 982 00:40:58,689 --> 00:41:00,715 Okay, "like," have to go. 983 00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:01,758 Dirt. 984 00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:02,919 That's very "teenage girl." 985 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,893 p> 986 00:41:03,894 --> 00:41:05,954 That's right. Good. 987 00:41:05,996 --> 00:41:07,897 I know, because doesn't sound like me right? 988 00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:09,730 No, it sounds like you. 989 00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:11,099 p> 990 00:41:14,505 --> 00:41:16,701 Sounds too similar to you. 991 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:19,471 and I will Show me how it is now. 992 00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:27,144 Say to someone imaginary on the other side of the room, 993 00:41:27,184 --> 00:41:28,948 "My name..." < / i> 994 00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:30,511 Give your name. 995 00:41:30,554 --> 00:41:33,183 My name is David Thorpe, 996 00:41:33,224 --> 00:41:37,127 and I will have it strong, authentic, 997 00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:39,630 and reliable sound. 998 00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:41,529 This is a great tool, 999 00:41:41,565 --> 00:41:46,026 something to give your voice strength, strength, and authority. 1000 00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:50,235 In this country, men use American standard melodies 1001 00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:54,211 more than women because This gives them a solution. 1002 00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:58,876 But it's good for everyone, men and women. 1003 00:41:58,916 --> 00:42:00,544 Now try with me. 1004 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:02,782 Hi, how are you? 1005 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:04,118 Hi. 1006 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:07,954 Hi how are you? 1007 00:42:07,992 --> 00:42:11,258 What is strange because it sounds more like 1008 00:42:11,295 --> 00:42:12,888 I told you that I've arrived 1009 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,990 instead of asking you how are you 1010 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,024 Hi how are you? 1011 00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:18,535 I don't care 1012 00:42:18,569 --> 00:42:19,798 good Try again. 1013 00:42:19,837 --> 00:42:22,306 This, this, this... 1014 00:42:23,574 --> 00:42:26,635 This is an embroidered pillow. 1015 00:42:26,677 --> 00:42:28,543 This is trivet. 1016 00:42:28,579 --> 00:42:31,276 are my Birkenstocks. 1017 00:42:31,315 --> 00:42:33,307 These are cat ears. 1018 00:42:34,218 --> 00:42:35,218 These are cats... 1019 00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:36,278 Apparently, 1020 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,619 I'm not the only one who thinks 1021 00:42:38,656 --> 00:42:41,251 is an American standard. 1022 00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:43,852 Hi how are you? 1023 00:42:43,894 --> 00:42:45,157 When I speak with my family, 1024 00:42:45,195 --> 00:42:46,754 who is a southern black family, 1025 00:42:46,797 --> 00:42:48,698 I like, "Hey, how did you do it? 1026 00:42:48,732 --> 00:42:50,291 " Oh, mother, I miss you. I'm very hungry. 1027 00:42:50,334 --> 00:42:51,597 When will you feed me? " 1028 00:42:51,635 --> 00:42:54,127 The way it is I grow up talking. 1029 00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:57,573 My accent goes when I start working on television 1030 00:42:57,608 --> 00:42:59,270 and I start listen to my voice, 1031 00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:01,905 and I realize that, you know, 1032 00:43:01,946 --> 00:43:06,281 I don't always like as it sounds when on tape. 1033 00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:08,980 Sounds a little lazy, and maybe it's stereotyped. 1034 00:43:09,019 --> 00:43:10,146 Maybe that's the part code-switching, 1035 00:43:10,187 --> 00:43:11,780 and maybe it is so part of the pass 1036 00:43:11,822 --> 00:43:14,986 Like, my father went for a very long length 1037 00:43:15,025 --> 00:43:17,290 to free himself from an Asian accent 1038 00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:20,321 He has a deep shame after being deported 1039 00:43:20,364 --> 00:43:22,196 and then always feels like trying to 1040 00:43:22,232 --> 00:43:25,259 to catch up and become an American
and become a true American. 1041 00:43:25,302 --> 00:43:28,204 It really made me feel In the same way, like, 1042 00:43:28,238 --> 00:43:32,141 was really determined not to be considered Korean 1043 00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:34,907 and no... don't have traces of the homeland, 1044 00:43:34,945 --> 00:43:40,043 and... and like this, um, you know, that... really happened under it. 1045 00:43:40,084 --> 00:43:43,714 You know, all of that... it's a kind of self-hatred and anxiety 1046 00:43:43,754 --> 00:43:46,349 really pushed down, and that can last for generations. 1047 00:43:47,324 --> 00:43:51,056 Including is a phenomenon where individuals who are 1048 00:43:51,095 --> 00:43:54,725 for the stigmatization group still try hard 1049 00:43:54,765 --> 00:43:57,257 to keep the stigma from rising big 1050 00:43:57,301 --> 00:43:59,793 This is Lady Gaga. 1051 00:43:59,837 --> 00:44:02,636 Gay must close with a myriad of ways 1052 00:44:02,673 --> 00:44:06,041 because sexual orientation is not an attribute that is visible. 1053 00:44:06,076 --> 00:44:08,671 That voice, you know, the story is... 1054 00:44:08,712 --> 00:44:11,307 That voice actually gave someone 1055 00:44:11,348 --> 00:44:13,783 who doesn't know 1056 00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:16,048 the fact that a gay individual 1057 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,389 you know, I work in a very conservative, 1058 00:44:19,423 --> 00:44:22,325 Pretty straight-laced type of place 1059 00:44:22,359 --> 00:44:24,726 Sometimes at work, are you trying, sort of, 1060 00:44:24,762 --> 00:44:26,287 By the way it's less gay than you? 1061 00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:29,323 I think I'm trying to just be as neutral as possible. 1062 00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:32,302 I try not to crack too many funnies 1063 00:44:32,336 --> 00:44:34,328 I try not to camp at all. 1064 00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:36,101 You know, I guess I'm trying to be straight... 1065 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:37,972 is not straight, meaning... 1066 00:44:38,008 --> 00:44:40,239 I can't pretend that I'm straight, 1067 00:44:40,277 --> 00:44:43,941 but that means I just try what kind of saying I have to say 1068 00:44:43,981 --> 00:44:45,347 and say it in a very neutral way 1069 00:44:45,382 --> 00:44:47,248 and try to make it very clear and concise 1070 00:44:47,284 --> 00:44:48,445 and then continue. 1071 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:49,813 > 1072 00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:52,186 Mm-hmm. Hmm. 1073 00:44:54,925 --> 00:44:56,985 So have you ever felt Such pressure to cover up? 1074 00:44:57,027 --> 00:45:00,156 That's really the question it's hard 1075 00:45:01,165 --> 00:45:03,293 because I'm sure that I have, unconsciously... 1076 00:45:03,333 --> 00:45:04,733 But I don't feel that I have to speak in a certain way 1077 00:45:04,768 --> 00:45:06,828 around white people, 1078 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:07,870 I don't think I should speak a certain way 1079 00:45:07,871 --> 00:45:11,000 I don't think I should speak a certain way around gay people, 1080 00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:14,011 and that makes me in trouble a lot, because I don't do it 1081 00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:15,808 But now the jury has reached its verdict, 1082 00:45:15,846 --> 00:45:17,474 one that everyone must accept, 1083 00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:19,081 now it's time for some difficult love... 1084 00:45:19,116 --> 00:45:21,847 I will... I have friends from home 1085 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:24,150 To be honest, some of my relatives will go, 1086 00:45:24,188 --> 00:45:27,056 "Gosh! You sound like someone white. " 1087 00:45:34,298 --> 00:45:36,062 Of all the people I know, 1088 00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:39,070 I think my choreographer friend Miguel 1089 00:45:39,103 --> 00:45:40,799 at least. 1090 00:45:40,838 --> 00:45:43,740 One of the things I did was working with a speech trainer 1091 00:45:43,774 --> 00:45:46,505 untuk belajar bagaimana, intinya, terdengar lurus 1092 00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:48,872 What do you think of the fact that I did that? 1093 00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:51,006 Here it is, you've come out from that damn closet, 1094 00:45:51,048 --> 00:45:54,348 You have, like , doing therapy, you have done everything, 1095 00:45:54,384 --> 00:45:58,754 and then you still, you know, change your way. 1096 00:45:58,789 --> 00:46:00,382 You still change
how do you sound 1097 00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:01,892 or you... how do you see, 1098 00:46:01,925 --> 00:46:04,360 to satisfy some fucking unseen value 1099 00:46:04,394 --> 00:46:07,887 That's very stupid, < very. 1100 00:46:11,802 --> 00:46:13,168 I mean this from hyper masculinity 1101 00:46:13,203 --> 00:46:16,002 is conscious performance in the culture of gay men 1102 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,132 Throughout time, wherever you go, 1103 00:46:17,174 --> 00:46:19,200 you know, and... and it just feels 1104 00:46:19,243 --> 00:46:22,304 so oppressive, sometimes, Actually, for me. 1105 00:46:22,346 --> 00:46:26,078 It feels very ungenerous and really doesn't love. 1106 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,816 Why do you think gay men are? 1107 00:46:31,855 --> 00:46:34,324 sometimes reject others gay men to sound gay? 1108 00:46:38,328 --> 00:46:39,455 Women's hatred. 1109 00:46:39,496 --> 00:46:40,896 They want prove it for culture 1110 00:46:40,931 --> 00:46:43,093 that they, you know, are not men, 1111 00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:44,965 that they are good because they are not women 1112 00:46:45,002 --> 00:46:46,300 Unlike women, they don't want women, 1113 00:46:46,336 --> 00:46:47,336 they don't want to sleep with women, 1114 00:46:47,337 --> 00:46:48,396 they don't want to act like a woman, 1115 00:46:48,438 --> 00:46:50,805 and then they will punish gay men who they consider 1116 00:46:50,841 --> 00:46:54,039 as feminine in any way. 1117 00:46:54,077 --> 00:46:55,077 Why do you think. .. 1118 00:46:55,078 --> 00:46:56,910 why do you think, When we sleep, 1119 00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:59,507 we want to hear that super masculine voice? 1120 00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:01,519 Because we like what is terrible for us 1121 00:47:02,553 --> 00:47:03,553 No, you know what I mean? It's like... 1122 00:47:03,554 --> 00:47:04,554 Stockholm Syndrome 1123 00:47:04,555 --> 00:47:06,080 Yes, it's like... 1124 00:47:06,123 --> 00:47:08,592 I don't know, what you like... it's wrong 1125 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:09,826 It's like sick. 1126 00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:11,123 We are gay, and we are interested in men, 1127 00:47:11,161 --> 00:47:12,356 p> 1128 00:47:12,396 --> 00:47:15,366 and we are interested for masculinity, 1129 00:47:15,399 --> 00:47:16,560 and we don't want to hear it women's voices in bed 1130 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,000 So if there is something
sounds similar to that, 1131 00:47:18,035 --> 00:47:19,196 it won't happen with the flame. 1132 00:47:20,204 --> 00:47:22,867 Dude, it's fucking & apos; awesome 1133 00:47:22,906 --> 00:47:23,906 You only eat the inside breakfast center 1134 00:47:23,941 --> 00:47:25,273 I mean, come on, man, 1135 00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:26,333 get your ass here on the table. 1136 00:47:29,246 --> 00:47:30,407 Let me rub it for you 1137 00:47:30,447 --> 00:47:32,416 Oh yeah. 1138 00:47:32,449 --> 00:47:35,908 Gay men like hypermasculinity, 1139 00:47:35,953 --> 00:47:37,945 like a construction worker helmet, 1140 00:47:37,988 --> 00:47:40,890 is gay-land lingerie. 1141 00:47:40,924 --> 00:47:42,552 "Yeah, take it." 1142 00:47:42,593 --> 00:47:44,357 Yes! Yes! 1143 00:47:44,394 --> 00:47:46,989 It's always funny when you watch like, uh, 1144 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:48,464 pornography, you know 1145 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,502 And, you know, there will be Be these two people 1146 00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:54,903 and then one of them will... one of them will say, 1147 00:47:54,938 --> 00:47:56,873 You know, "Take it, bitch " 1148 00:47:58,141 --> 00:47:59,939 Oh, we need the roof of the sun. 1149 00:47:59,977 --> 00:48:04,073 And I think, well, that's all destroying everything, you know 1150 00:48:04,114 --> 00:48:07,107 It just destroys everything because you sound like me 1151 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:23,166 My grandmother The 95th birthday celebration 1152 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,965 is a relief /> of all. 1153 00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:28,370 Are you ready, Grandma? 1154 00:48:31,108 --> 00:48:34,078 Grandma, happy birthday! 1155 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,309 Yeah, Gil, can you wave with your hand there? 1156 00:48:37,347 --> 00:48:39,111 "Hi grandma." 1157 00:48:39,149 --> 00:48:40,149 Happy birthday grandma. 1158 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:41,379 - Carmen, look at me - Happy birthday! 1159 00:48:41,418 --> 00:48:43,387 Will you give me a wave, Grandma? 1160 00:48:46,156 --> 00:48:47,180 Thank you. 1161 00:48:47,224 --> 00:48:50,490 To my surprise, both Gaby and Gil 1162 00:48:50,527 --> 00:48:55,591 identified exactly when I started to sound indisputably gay. 1163 00:48:55,632 --> 00:48:59,000 I have the honor of to really know you 1164 00:48:59,036 --> 00:49:00,231 my first year in college, 1165 00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:02,136 which is when
You came out, 1166 00:49:02,172 --> 00:49:06,507 and I really noticed this transformation 1167 00:49:06,543 --> 00:49:10,241 I mean, September 1993, 1168 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,215 You sound like a boy straight, 1169 00:49:12,249 --> 00:49:15,583 uh, from the family of academics in South Carolina, 1170 00:49:15,619 --> 00:49:18,555 and in May, indeed sounds pretty gay 1171 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:20,589 Interesting. Good. 1172 00:49:20,590 --> 00:49:23,287 I don't know this happened for me gradually 1173 00:49:24,461 --> 00:49:27,659 You realize or unwittingly 1174 00:49:27,698 --> 00:49:29,667 exaggerate it for a while 1175 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,692 like you sort of came to terms 1176 00:49:31,735 --> 00:49:34,102 with your identity, and others, that's for sure. 1177 00:49:37,407 --> 00:49:40,969 Just when you first came out, you sounded super-queen, 1178 00:49:41,011 --> 00:49:45,176 and that reminds me from the first time I came out. 1179 00:49:45,215 --> 00:49:47,343 I went and bought a black leather jacket. 1180 00:49:47,384 --> 00:49:51,014 That was a signal, and, uh, it reminds me of that. 1181 00:49:51,054 --> 00:49:53,319 That, like, you've put on this sound, sort of. 1182 00:49:53,357 --> 00:49:54,757 My voice is mine
black leather jacket? 1183 00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:55,992 Yes. 1184 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:59,657 Then, I found out that my childhood friend Michelle 1185 00:49:59,696 --> 00:50:02,291 also paid attention to my college transformation. 1186 00:50:03,266 --> 00:50:04,393 I remember talking to you and going, 1187 00:50:04,434 --> 00:50:07,529 "Lord, his voice has changed." 1188 00:50:07,571 --> 00:50:09,403 For me, that is actually feels like yourself 1189 00:50:09,439 --> 00:50:11,271 trying to advertise that you are gay 1190 00:50:12,275 --> 00:50:13,766 And that... I, like, a little annoyed 1191 00:50:14,011 --> 00:50:15,673 Because I'm like, "Alright, you didn't talk like that 1192 00:50:15,712 --> 00:50:17,146 three years ago." 1193 00:50:18,482 --> 00:50:20,246 It bothers me that your voice has changed 1194 00:50:20,283 --> 00:50:23,310 I don't & annoy; that you are gay, 1195 00:50:23,353 --> 00:50:25,288 But it bothers me that you change your voice 1196 00:50:25,322 --> 00:50:26,322 Yes. 1197 00:50:27,758 --> 00:50:29,386 I mean, I think I'm getting used to it. 1198 00:50:29,426 --> 00:50:31,554 Like, if I know you and you always talk like this, 1199 00:50:31,595 --> 00:50:32,595 I won't think about it. 1200 00:50:32,596 --> 00:50:33,757 That will only be you. 1201 00:50:33,797 --> 00:50:34,797 Yes. 1202 00:50:34,798 --> 00:50:38,257 But the fact is, you know, for 17 years... 1203 00:50:39,269 --> 00:50:40,532 That's different from you. 1204 00:50:40,570 --> 00:50:41,594 Yes. 1205 00:50:41,638 --> 00:50:44,335 So, for me, this is Like an imposter voice 1206 00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:46,036 when I first started talking to you 1207 00:50:46,076 --> 00:50:48,170 I didn't... I didn't feel < br /> comfortable with your voice 1208 00:50:51,581 --> 00:50:55,382 In college, I finally found the courage to get out. 1209 00:50:57,054 --> 00:51:00,513 I don't remember consciously trying to sound more gay. 1210 00:51:01,691 --> 00:51:04,058 I remember aspiring to 1211 00:51:04,094 --> 00:51:08,122 for an intelligent role, aristocratic homosexuals. 1212 00:51:09,833 --> 00:51:12,826 I have spent so long feeling ridiculed. 1213 00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:15,130 It's time to scoff back. 1214 00:51:23,246 --> 00:51:25,238 There's that kind of idea 1215 00:51:25,282 --> 00:51:26,282 when you talk with gay voices, 1216 00:51:26,283 --> 00:51:28,377 you're talking for someone too 1217 00:51:28,418 --> 00:51:31,479 That you... there is this theory 1218 00:51:31,521 --> 00:51:32,853 that gay man must refrain 1219 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,285 even higher. 1220 00:51:34,324 --> 00:51:37,852 I remember the people who told me that I was talking like a sissy 1221 00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:40,661 Well, what I did was, I tried talking 1222 00:51:40,697 --> 00:51:43,394 like a boy little rich on television shows 1223 00:51:43,433 --> 00:51:45,664 Do you care martini, sir Babcock? 1224 00:51:45,702 --> 00:51:46,702 Good... 1225 00:51:48,305 --> 00:51:50,274 Extra dry or dry 1226 00:51:50,307 --> 00:51:54,335 So, yes, I'm still young, working class child, 1227 00:51:54,377 --> 00:51:58,371 but I try to talk above my demographic status 1228 00:51:59,416 --> 00:52:00,416 Stir, never shake. 1229 00:52:00,417 --> 00:52:01,510 Bruising gin. 1230 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:05,551 I'm too naive to know 1231 00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:08,787 with embrace top class voice, 1232 00:52:08,825 --> 00:52:12,318 I hugged outdated stereotypes. 1233 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,331 All right, for the sake of. 1234 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:21,463 I am all atwitter 1235 00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:23,167 I can't wait to tell everyone 1236 00:52:23,206 --> 00:52:24,435 Alex doesn't do it give him air 1237 00:52:25,509 --> 00:52:27,307 Well, what do you think of him? 1238 00:52:27,344 --> 00:52:28,573 Pretty divine, my dear 1239 00:52:28,612 --> 00:52:30,376 Only divine 1240 00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:34,646 That Pansy always sort of an abbreviation for gay men 1241 00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:36,744 without having to spell it. 1242 00:52:36,786 --> 00:52:39,688 Visual abbreviations are the first thing, 1243 00:52:39,723 --> 00:52:42,522 But the voice is almost always following it 1244 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,460 Well, I don't know anything about that... 1245 00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:46,486 But don't put it in your dance. 1246 00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:47,589 That's what I said the other day 1247 00:52:47,631 --> 00:52:49,327 for my beloved Countess from Twickenham... 1248 00:52:49,366 --> 00:52:53,201 Pansy is the very kind, < br /> wise, know the character 1249 00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:57,469 You can see it, I... or hear it as something to copy 1250 00:52:57,507 --> 00:53:01,638 because it looks like the type is in for most situations. 1251 00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:05,581 I grew up in your typical middle class suburb, 1252 00:53:05,615 --> 00:53:08,483 but my voice told me different story. 1253 00:53:08,518 --> 00:53:12,853 You sound educated and cosmopolitan and refined. 1254 00:53:12,889 --> 00:53:15,825 So if you think about it in the context of our culture... 1255 00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:19,193 You are someone who sounds educated and cosmopolitan and refined... 1256 00:53:19,229 --> 00:53:21,221 it will be gay 1257 00:53:21,264 --> 00:53:23,699 Good, I was told that I was rather languorous. 1258 00:53:23,733 --> 00:53:25,759 Like, I drew my vocal. 1259 00:53:25,802 --> 00:53:27,896 Oh, yeah, because then...
because you have time to 1260 00:53:27,938 --> 00:53:31,306 because you, um, in the community class 1261 00:53:31,341 --> 00:53:35,540 that allows you to linger on things like vocals and... 1262 00:53:36,846 --> 00:53:38,542 I mean, I never asked why. 1263 00:53:38,582 --> 00:53:40,710 This, "Why?" 1264 00:53:40,750 --> 00:53:41,750 Exactly. 1265 00:53:41,751 --> 00:53:43,811 But.... but that's to give it more emphasis too 1266 00:53:43,853 --> 00:53:46,254 Why? 1267 00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:50,588 Like, how you talk For me to connote, like, the subtext 1268 00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:52,323 from, like, the educated gay character 1269 00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:54,693 And what you feel... 1270 00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:56,893 So I'm still a gay educated character that I always . 1271 00:53:56,933 --> 00:53:58,799 Yes. Yes. 1272 00:53:58,835 --> 00:54:01,236 You're still nailing learned gay characters 1273 00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:02,705 Thank you. Thank you. 1274 00:54:02,739 --> 00:54:04,571 I... I'm stuck in that role. 1275 00:54:05,542 --> 00:54:07,306 > 1276 00:54:07,344 --> 00:54:08,642 I mean, there are worse roles to fill 1277 00:54:08,678 --> 00:54:12,809 than learned gay characters. 1278 00:54:12,849 --> 00:54:14,249 You don't, like, the... you & apos; re not an evil gay character. 1279 00:54:14,284 --> 00:54:15,752 But, look, sometimes I'm worried 1280 00:54:15,785 --> 00:54:17,686 that I hear like a bad gay character. 1281 00:54:18,822 --> 00:54:20,688 I mean , we all have our moments. 1282 00:54:20,724 --> 00:54:23,023 It's as clear as pattern, Laura 1283 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:24,592 If McPherson doesn't do it muscular and handsome 1284 00:54:24,628 --> 00:54:26,426 in a cheap way, 1285 00:54:26,463 --> 00:54:29,399 You will see through him soon. 1286 00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:32,732 Even though, in the 30s, gay characters were seen, 1287 00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:35,898 Eh, starting with Clifton Webb and Laura, 1288 00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:38,966 You can see where they actually are starting to become more dangerous 1289 00:54:39,009 --> 00:54:41,308 Murder is my favorite crime. 1290 00:54:41,344 --> 00:54:43,336 I write it regularly. 1291 00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:47,715 Grieving, arrogant, superior / p> 1292 00:54:47,751 --> 00:54:49,276 Is he jealous of of male characters 1293 00:54:49,319 --> 00:54:51,515 or female characters? 1294 00:54:51,554 --> 00:54:53,284 But he did everything sort of through his voice 1295 00:54:53,323 --> 00:54:54,882 just like everything else 1296 00:54:54,924 --> 00:54:57,291 And he plays a killer, really? 1297 00:54:57,327 --> 00:54:58,625 From the 1940s, 1298 00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:01,662 many gay characters 1299 00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:03,564 killed or killer, 1300 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,966 and a lot of that starts with Laura. 1301 00:55:05,001 --> 00:55:08,403 goodbye, Laura. 1302 00:55:08,438 --> 00:55:11,602 dan banyak itu dimulai dengan Laura. 1303 00:55:24,721 --> 00:55:26,622 selamat tinggal, Laura. 1304 00:55:26,656 --> 00:55:30,320 Peter Pan will be harassed 1305 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,920 out of the ground never... 1306 00:55:32,962 --> 00:55:34,328 forever. 1307 00:55:34,364 --> 00:55:38,859 Captain Hook is a kind of Clifton's character -Webb-type, 1308 00:55:38,902 --> 00:55:40,564 and that's how and Peter Pan, 1309 00:55:40,603 --> 00:55:42,504 and things like that are carried away, 1310 00:55:42,539 --> 00:55:45,566 uh, the next decade to Book Jungle. 1311 00:55:45,608 --> 00:55:47,440 I thought maybe, you entertained 1312 00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,070 someone up there on your scroll. 1313 00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:50,444 Coils? 1314 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,711 And of course, Shere Khan is evil. 1315 00:55:52,749 --> 00:55:56,652 After Shere Khan, you get some more than... 1316 00:55:56,686 --> 00:55:58,018 from male characters 1317 00:55:58,054 --> 00:56:00,614 Oh, dear Bartholomew, 1318 00:56:00,657 --> 00:56:03,821 I'm afraid that you have gone and made me upset 1319 00:56:04,794 --> 00:56:08,731 You know what happened when someone bothered me 1320 00:56:08,765 --> 00:56:11,792 Maybe I could divine the solution 1321 00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:14,031 for this problem spiked? 1322 00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:16,972 Oh, I will practice my curtsey. 1323 00:56:17,006 --> 00:56:19,737 This voice is from Disney villains, 1324 00:56:19,776 --> 00:56:23,770 uh, who have gay or proto-gay qualities for them, 1325 00:56:23,813 --> 00:56:26,373 if you think highly, very young children, 1326 00:56:26,416 --> 00:56:28,544 You know, they can > grow with the idea 1327 00:56:28,585 --> 00:56:32,545 that is, uh, evil or evil, 1328 00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:36,720 uh, can be connoted with the voice of a gay man 1329 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,490 Well, as far as the brain go, 1330 00:56:38,528 --> 00:56:39,962 I got the biggest part of the lion 1331 00:56:39,996 --> 00:56:42,659 but when it came for brute strength... 1332 00:56:43,833 --> 00:56:46,997 I was afraid I was shallow < br /> end of the gene pool. 1333 00:56:48,037 --> 00:56:50,165 There is one in each family, sire. 1334 00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:51,670 Only very fast, I want to say 1335 00:56:51,708 --> 00:56:54,735 I have a breath of breath this morning, 1336 00:56:54,778 --> 00:56:56,144 and I think I'm starting to feel 1337 00:56:56,179 --> 00:56:59,980 how to raise and lower my diaphragm 1338 00:57:00,016 --> 00:57:03,680 Ah, 1, 2, 3, 4. 1339 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:04,779 No. 1340 00:57:04,821 --> 00:57:05,982 Uh. 1341 00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,858 Sst! 1342 00:57:08,892 --> 00:57:10,861 Susan and Bob's training 1343 00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:13,921 should make me sound more standard, 1344 00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:19,459 but I only found myself amazed how my voice worked. 1346 00:57:22,572 --> 00:57:24,438 ♪ Resonation ♪ 1347 00:57:24,474 --> 00:57:27,444 ♪ Throat, larynx, the middle of the throat ♪ 1348 00:57:27,477 --> 00:57:29,844 I'll move the larynx up and down 1349 00:57:29,879 --> 00:57:31,677 and around it. 1350 00:57:31,714 --> 00:57:34,741 As it turns out, my stomach has decided to go into action 1351 00:57:34,784 --> 00:57:38,118 and, um, develop a strong one, 1352 00:57:38,154 --> 00:57:40,783 strong authentic voice his own. 1353 00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:54,135 So maybe a breakthrough. 1354 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:56,002 "Breakthrough-ooh-ah." 1355 00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:57,940 Yoo-who's-aa-o. 1356 00:57:57,974 --> 00:57:59,033 Yu-whao-oo! 1357 00:57:59,075 --> 00:58:01,044 Whoo-waa-ha! 1358 00:58:01,077 --> 00:58:04,707 I'm a speaker 1359 00:58:05,915 --> 00:58:07,543 > 1360 00:58:07,584 --> 00:58:09,177 So, um, have you noticed? 1361 00:58:10,587 --> 00:58:12,249 my voice has changed completely 1362 00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:15,486 Eh, is that a trap question? 1363 00:58:15,525 --> 00:58:16,993 No, not yet. 1364 00:58:18,061 --> 00:58:20,621 I don't know Not really. 1365 00:58:21,631 --> 00:58:22,631 Maybe when you're practicing your practice with us 1366 00:58:22,632 --> 00:58:23,632 When did you practice... 1367 00:58:23,633 --> 00:58:25,101 when did he practice practice with us? 1368 00:58:25,134 --> 00:58:26,602 After he left to the speech therapist 1369 00:58:26,636 --> 00:58:27,934 Oh, I mean he... I think you're just 1370 00:58:27,971 --> 00:58:29,530 sort of demonstrating how it works 1371 00:58:29,572 --> 00:58:30,572 I never... I don't Think of it practice. 1372 00:58:30,573 --> 00:58:31,666 Right. 1373 00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:33,176 I just thought so told us how... 1374 00:58:33,209 --> 00:58:34,209 how it works, 1375 00:58:34,210 --> 00:58:35,508 but I don't know that it is... 1376 00:58:35,545 --> 00:58:37,514 So you don't realize it, like, there's a change at all? 1377 00:58:37,547 --> 00:58:39,209 There are no changes in the field, no... 1378 00:58:39,249 --> 00:58:41,047 I see a changes in your spirit 1379 00:58:48,658 --> 00:58:52,060 Sam and Alberto know I am the person in these photos. 1380 00:58:54,697 --> 00:58:58,828 After college, like thousands of people gay men in front of me, 1381 00:58:58,868 --> 00:59:02,600 I ended up in New York, < br /> where the three met. 1382 00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:03,766 Come on. Come on, crab. 1383 00:59:03,806 --> 00:59:04,806 Come on, you crab. 1384 00:59:04,807 --> 00:59:07,106 We are forged identity gay we are together. 1385 00:59:07,143 --> 00:59:08,143 Let me see crabs! 1386 00:59:09,913 --> 00:59:11,939 Sam and I have had a public access event 1387 00:59:11,981 --> 00:59:14,917 about our obsession with women's tennis. 1388 00:59:14,951 --> 00:59:18,547 Alberto shot the show, which also featured Miguel. 1389 00:59:18,588 --> 00:59:20,989 You drive me crazy 1390 00:59:21,024 --> 00:59:22,549 I can't work like this. 1391 00:59:22,592 --> 00:59:23,890 I can't work like this! 1392 00:59:33,236 --> 00:59:35,205 If there are many people who gather together, 1393 00:59:35,238 --> 00:59:37,673 they tend, sort of, sim... the same language, 1394 00:59:37,707 --> 00:59:40,939 the same tone of voice,
similar phrases 1395 00:59:40,977 --> 00:59:43,105 Men can learn how to sound gay 1396 00:59:43,146 --> 00:59:44,978 from being with gay men. 1397 00:59:46,883 --> 00:59:48,875 One two. 1398 00:59:48,918 --> 00:59:49,918 What 1399 00:59:51,220 --> 00:59:53,280 If people actually put on a show, 1400 00:59:53,323 --> 00:59:56,088 when they act very gay deliberately for fun, 1401 00:59:56,125 --> 00:59:57,991 "camp speech" what we call it 1402 00:59:58,027 --> 01:00:00,656 This may not belong to that person natural sound, 1403 01:00:00,697 --> 01:00:04,896 but I can say, "Well, why don't we go there?" 1404 01:00:04,934 --> 01:00:07,130 Dinner is served. 1405 01:00:07,170 --> 01:00:09,002 I will make someone a good wife. 1406 01:00:09,038 --> 01:00:11,030 I can entertain. 1407 01:00:11,074 --> 01:00:12,167 Kiss me fast. 1408 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,904 I'm Carmen 1409 01:00:13,943 --> 01:00:16,276 Very excessive performance. 1410 01:00:16,312 --> 01:00:18,804 Conscious performance acts like a drag queen 1411 01:00:18,848 --> 01:00:21,909 or acting like the famous movie star who's a woman 1412 01:00:21,951 --> 01:00:22,951 Such a thing. 1413 01:00:22,986 --> 01:00:24,978 Oh, that person has arrived, but that very crowded 1414 01:00:25,021 --> 01:00:27,616 I have to sit on Pinocchio's nose. 1415 01:00:28,725 --> 01:00:30,751 Then he goes on to tell me the weirdest story 1416 01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:33,262 I said, "Pinoch, you know, that's not the truth, 1417 01:00:33,296 --> 01:00:35,288 But lying, you're a little a devil, lying. " 1418 01:00:35,331 --> 01:00:38,096 Wayland and Madame together with Paul Lynde 1419 01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:40,228 and someone like Rip Taylor, 1420 01:00:40,269 --> 01:00:42,204 who used to come in The Tonight Show is a lot, 1421 01:00:42,238 --> 01:00:46,039 uh, they're mainstream types overall camp ideas 1422 01:00:48,111 --> 01:00:49,111 What is this? 1423 01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:50,204 This, my dear, 1424 01:00:50,246 --> 01:00:53,045 is the fifth from Beethoven. 1425 01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:58,880 I call them ambiguous TV prime-time queen. 1426 01:01:00,356 --> 01:01:01,915 Who are you? 1427 01:01:01,958 --> 01:01:04,757 You, with burning eyes like a desert sun 1428 01:01:05,828 --> 01:01:07,956 The greatest Sheikh in all of Arabia 1429 01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:09,989 Why are you using the earrings? 1430 01:01:10,033 --> 01:01:12,264 Because I'm a very chic sheik. 1431 01:01:13,836 --> 01:01:16,431 That's why I called me Florence from Arabia 1432 01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:21,202 Paul Lynde, in 1976, > on television 1434 01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:28,208 He is bigger than, uh, John Wayne 1435 01:01:28,251 --> 01:01:31,221 When someone falls from your boat and into the water, 1436 01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:33,814 you have to shout, < br /> "Humans are excessive!" 1437 01:01:33,856 --> 01:01:36,792 Now, what should you shout? if a woman falls into the sea? 1438 01:01:36,826 --> 01:01:37,826 Full speed ahead! 1439 01:01:39,796 --> 01:01:41,196 It was never said 1440 01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:44,132 there would also never be saying that he was gay, 1441 01:01:44,167 --> 01:01:48,263 but between them He said the sentence 1442 01:01:48,304 --> 01:01:52,400 and quality, contents from his line, you know 1443 01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:55,173 And you know, for years, he was considered 1444 01:01:55,211 --> 01:01:57,009 people the funniest on television 1445 01:01:58,748 --> 01:02:01,308 When I was a kid, I was afraid 1446 01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:05,185 that I might sound like anything < br /> from this flamboyant queen. 1447 01:02:05,221 --> 01:02:07,952 Mom, I could have been a big tennis star 1448 01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:10,050 if you just pushed me a little harder 1449 01:02:10,093 --> 01:02:11,254 What do you mean I don't like sun? 1450 01:02:11,294 --> 01:02:12,922 I like the sun. 1451 01:02:12,962 --> 01:02:14,396 The shoes are terrible! 1452 01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:17,059 As a gay man who has just been printed, 1453 01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,935 I learned how to collect it can free. 1454 01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:23,906 When I started doing it Performing Howard Stern 1455 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:25,806 and I used the simple one... You know, 1456 01:02:25,842 --> 01:02:28,038 He does some shameful things 1457 01:02:28,077 --> 01:02:30,137 or makes some outrageous statements, 1458 01:02:30,179 --> 01:02:33,047 and sometimes, the only answer to that is, 1459 01:02:33,082 --> 01:02:34,209 "Gosh!" 1460 01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:37,311 George, it's simple and easy, and you can do it 1461 01:02:37,353 --> 01:02:38,377 in your pajamas 1462 01:02:38,421 --> 01:02:40,447 from the comfort of from your own home 1463 01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:41,981 Gosh! 1464 01:02:42,024 --> 01:02:45,085 Be aware or not, we still, uh, 1465 01:02:45,128 --> 01:02:49,088 use part of this voice and these images 1466 01:02:49,132 --> 01:02:51,829 in our daily lives in our personality, 1467 01:02:51,868 --> 01:02:53,393 uh, without knowing 1468 01:02:53,436 --> 01:02:55,428 Applause. 1469 01:02:55,505 --> 01:02:56,505 Eyes 1470 01:02:56,506 --> 01:03:00,238 So you feel like you are doing your gayness 1471 01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:01,276 more than me. 1472 01:03:01,310 --> 01:03:02,835 And your voice is part of that? 1473 01:03:02,879 --> 01:03:05,110 I don't think about it, "I do my gay." 1474 01:03:05,148 --> 01:03:09,210 I think about... I'm, like,
fucking funny with my voice 1476 01:03:14,056 --> 01:03:15,251 General excitement 1477 01:03:16,425 --> 01:03:17,425 And that sounds very gay. 1478 01:03:17,426 --> 01:03:18,426 - I mean, I don't know. - Yeah. 1480 01:03:19,428 --> 01:03:21,556 like, "I'll camp it up, and..." 1481 01:03:21,798 --> 01:03:24,290 Sam is more comfortable with himself than I 1482 01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:27,326 by "appearing to be gay." 1483 01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:31,535 But he has also been married for years to great people. 1484 01:03:31,574 --> 01:03:33,440 Ditto Alberto. 1485 01:03:40,383 --> 01:03:42,147 Hugh... Hugh, my boyfriend, 1486 01:03:42,185 --> 01:03:44,586 we've been with for 22 years 1487 01:03:44,821 --> 01:03:47,586 Now, Hugh doesn't sound something like 1488 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,259 I want my fantasy boyfriend sounds like 1489 01:03:50,293 --> 01:03:51,386 You know? 1490 01:03:51,427 --> 01:03:54,397 But I love her, and I won't... 1491 01:03:54,430 --> 01:03:56,126 That is all part of the package. 1492 01:03:56,165 --> 01:03:58,191 I can recognize the gay you hear. 1493 01:03:58,234 --> 01:03:59,930 I think, from... I thought the first time 1494 01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:02,200 I heard my voice recorded. 1495 01:04:02,238 --> 01:04:03,570 I was surprised. I was little. 1496 01:04:03,606 --> 01:04:05,575 I sound like Shirley Temple. 1497 01:04:07,043 --> 01:04:10,377 But he can also fix everything. 1498 01:04:10,413 --> 01:04:13,178 You know, he can repeat it the cable in this house 1499 01:04:13,216 --> 01:04:15,583 He can solder pipe together. 1500 01:04:15,618 --> 01:04:16,950 He can... 1501 01:04:17,954 --> 01:04:19,013 You know, really, 1502 01:04:19,055 --> 01:04:22,287 on masculinity scale, he wins. 1503 01:04:22,325 --> 01:04:23,325 You know, even... 1504 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:24,850 Even with that voice, he still wins 1505 01:04:26,128 --> 01:04:27,391 One of the things I love George 1506 01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:30,059 does he love me for who I am, 1507 01:04:30,099 --> 01:04:33,263 and my voice comes like... comes as part of my package 1508 01:04:33,302 --> 01:04:35,498 And, sometimes, I think that... 1509 01:04:36,505 --> 01:04:38,906 That... it's not a good thing has a voice like this 1510 01:04:38,941 --> 01:04:40,603 But George has been strengthened, 1511 01:04:40,643 --> 01:04:42,441 for decades that we have been together, 1512 01:04:42,478 --> 01:04:44,447 that, you know, who... who am I? 1513 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,244 who... who are they? 1514 01:04:46,282 --> 01:04:47,875 to criticize me for my voice? 1515 01:04:47,917 --> 01:04:49,886 So I'm used to that. 1516 01:04:51,988 --> 01:04:54,958 Hugh can defeat me. 1517 01:04:54,991 --> 01:04:57,085 He can make me burn
When I'm sleeping. 1518 01:04:57,126 --> 01:05:00,927 I will never leave it. 1519 01:05:00,963 --> 01:05:01,963 You know what I mean? 1520 01:05:01,964 --> 01:05:04,593 Because I never want to be single again 1521 01:05:04,634 --> 01:05:06,967 Like, I never wanted to have to date again. 1522 01:05:07,003 --> 01:05:10,167 I never wanted to set it up feet in the gay bar again. 1523 01:05:11,107 --> 01:05:12,107 None. 1524 01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:16,379 Get rid of terror into a single, 1525 01:05:16,412 --> 01:05:19,541 I can see those people in a partner this happy 1526 01:05:19,582 --> 01:05:21,278 doesn't ask each other to change. 1527 01:05:22,318 --> 01:05:25,652 Instead, they become more themselves. 1528 01:05:25,688 --> 01:05:30,524 This is the insecurity that you have in you 1529 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,360 makes you aware of how you sound 1530 01:05:34,397 --> 01:05:38,198 This is a problem which must be discussed. 1531 01:05:38,234 --> 01:05:43,298 One must be aware of from the fact that we are pioneers in 1532 01:05:43,339 --> 01:05:48,300 in our day in changing people's perceptions 1533 01:05:48,344 --> 01:05:51,212 what does it mean to be gay 1534 01:05:51,247 --> 01:05:52,647 Gay, straight, black, white! 1535 01:05:52,682 --> 01:05:54,275 Marriage is a civil right! 1536 01:05:54,317 --> 01:05:56,115 Gay, straight, black, white! 1537 01:05:56,152 --> 01:05:57,415 p> 1538 01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,685 Marriage is civil rights! 1539 01:06:00,723 --> 01:06:02,954 In 2005, Arnold Schwarzenegger 1540 01:06:03,192 --> 01:06:04,421 vetoed marriage equations. 1541 01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:07,259 I was still locked up. 1542 01:06:07,296 --> 01:06:11,597 But in... on... on the 11 o'clock news, 1543 01:06:11,634 --> 01:06:14,297 I see young gay men, 1544 01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:20,068 men and women, marching in Santa Monica Boulevard... 1546 01:06:22,311 --> 01:06:25,179 And that's when I spoke to the press 1547 01:06:25,214 --> 01:06:28,446 for the first time as a gay man. 1548 01:06:28,484 --> 01:06:30,146 So without fear of those young... 1549 01:06:30,186 --> 01:06:32,451 of young people inspire you... 1550 01:06:32,488 --> 01:06:33,488 Exactly. 1551 01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:34,616 To speak. 1552 01:06:39,462 --> 01:06:41,328 What 1553 01:06:41,364 --> 01:06:42,764 > 1554 01:06:42,999 --> 01:06:46,060 George is right. 1555 01:06:46,102 --> 01:06:50,039 It inspires to see that some young people 1556 01:06:50,072 --> 01:06:52,598 can and sound like themselves . 1557 01:06:52,641 --> 01:06:54,234 And the world is listening. 1558 01:06:54,276 --> 01:06:56,040 Hi everything; my name is Tyler, 1559 01:06:56,078 --> 01:06:57,706 and if you don't know me now... 1560 01:06:57,747 --> 01:06:59,579 spoiler warnings... 1561 01:06:59,615 --> 01:07:01,481 I'm gay. 1562 01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:03,486 Shocker, I know. 1563 01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:06,045 boys, girls or animals, who will do it 1564 01:07:07,056 --> 01:07:09,150 I might jasmine from Aladdin 1565 01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:10,386 so I can sleep with Jafar. 1566 01:07:10,426 --> 01:07:11,758 If two people love each other 1567 01:07:11,794 --> 01:07:14,525 and want to prove it by putting a ring on it, 1568 01:07:14,563 --> 01:07:16,054 Let the prostitute do it. 1569 01:07:16,098 --> 01:07:17,794 Is that important, like, If they are the same sex? 1571 01:07:22,238 --> 01:07:23,467 Cursed. 1572 01:07:23,506 --> 01:07:26,476 I am like a didgeridoo... 1573 01:07:28,477 --> 01:07:31,447 Oh-ooo... 1574 01:07:34,417 --> 01:07:37,819 Finally, After months of training my voice, 1575 01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:40,489 everything fell into place. 1576 01:07:42,324 --> 01:07:45,419 My name is David Thorpe, 1577 01:07:45,461 --> 01:07:49,398 and I will have it strong, authentic, 1578 01:07:49,432 --> 01:07:51,697 and reliable sound. 1579 01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:53,760 So I have to say it 1580 01:07:53,803 --> 01:07:57,262 I'm just listening to for my empowerment sentence, 1581 01:07:57,306 --> 01:08:00,765 and I feel like that sounds rather awesome 1582 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,780 Um, I'm pretty far away from the camera, 1583 01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:05,611 and I sound loud. 1584 01:08:05,648 --> 01:08:07,139 I mean, not loud. 1585 01:08:07,183 --> 01:08:11,245 But I sound full and round and clear. 1586 01:08:13,656 --> 01:08:18,492 > 1588 01:08:22,531 --> 01:08:25,865 I feel very emotional disconnected from my voice... 1589 01:08:28,737 --> 01:08:30,865 I am not sure who will be or what it sounds like . 1590 01:08:31,107 --> 01:08:32,735 There is one in each family, father. 1591 01:08:32,775 --> 01:08:36,177 It never occurred to me 1592 01:08:36,212 --> 01:08:37,874 < i> that I am physically disconnected from my voice... 1593 01:08:41,383 --> 01:08:44,114 from myself. 1594 01:08:44,153 --> 01:08:45,815 Maybe I didn't go to Susan and Bob 1595 01:08:48,591 --> 01:08:51,686 Maybe I just tried to reconnect. 1596 01:08:59,568 --> 01:09:01,161 Have you noticed anything Difference in my voice, 1597 01:09:01,203 --> 01:09:03,365 uh, since I saw you in LA? 1598 01:09:03,405 --> 01:09:06,239 Yes; it's lower and deeper and more confident. 1599 01:09:06,275 --> 01:09:07,903 Yes of course. 1600 01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:09,669 You know I'm trying to sleep and me, and... 1601 01:09:09,712 --> 01:09:12,580 and, you... you... the three of you speak... 1602 01:09:12,615 --> 01:09:14,675 It sounds masculine. 1603 01:09:14,750 --> 01:09:16,616 No, but your voice like, like, 1604 01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:18,450 comes through ear plugs 1605 01:09:18,487 --> 01:09:19,921 - That, like, this is very... - Yeah. 1606 01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:21,454 It feels like... 1607 01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:23,823 I mean, it still sounds like a woman talking. 1608 01:09:26,328 --> 01:09:27,626 - A handsome woman. - Uh huh. 1609 01:09:27,663 --> 01:09:28,858 A bearded woman. 1610 01:09:31,534 --> 01:09:33,833 People with AIDS are attacked! 1611 01:09:33,869 --> 01:09:35,701 What do we do? 1612 01:09:35,738 --> 01:09:36,738 Fight! 1613 01:09:36,739 --> 01:09:38,674 People with AIDS are attacked! 1614 01:09:38,707 --> 01:09:39,766 What do we do? 1615 01:09:39,808 --> 01:09:40,867 Fight! 1616 01:09:46,849 --> 01:09:48,943 That's pretty good right? 1617 01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:50,813 I definitely can't have done that before 1618 01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:55,256 I found a stronger sound... 1619 01:09:55,291 --> 01:09:56,520 - Cheer, thank you for coming. - Cheers. 1620 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,789 To you. 1621 01:09:58,827 --> 01:10:02,320 But finally, I stopped doing my training. 1622 01:10:02,364 --> 01:10:04,299 Wow, this looks really, very good. 1623 01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:05,333 Yes. 1624 01:10:05,334 --> 01:10:06,427 Bon appétit, bitches. 1625 01:10:06,468 --> 01:10:07,800 - Thank you. - Thank you 1626 01:10:07,836 --> 01:10:09,634 So your voice hasn't changed, but you did 1627 01:10:09,672 --> 01:10:11,607 You know, my voice did change. 1628 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,802 Like, I... my voice must be stronger 1629 01:10:13,842 --> 01:10:17,404 But gay doesn't change, and... 1630 01:10:17,446 --> 01:10:18,937 It doesn't change. 1631 01:10:18,981 --> 01:10:20,244 It doesn't change. 1632 01:10:20,282 --> 01:10:21,375 Do you still do it? 1633 01:10:21,417 --> 01:10:22,749 - No, I stopped doing it. - Right 1634 01:10:22,785 --> 01:10:23,785 Because... I don't know. 1635 01:10:23,786 --> 01:10:27,279 For some reason, I can, now, to... 1636 01:10:27,323 --> 01:10:28,848 to, like, hear my voice 1637 01:10:28,891 --> 01:10:30,621 and hear how unique it is. 1638 01:10:30,659 --> 01:10:31,922 Mm-hmm. 1639 01:10:31,961 --> 01:10:33,327 Literally, like, your voice 1640 01:10:33,362 --> 01:10:35,729 is shaped by its shape from your body 1641 01:10:35,764 --> 01:10:36,891 So no... You know, 1642 01:10:36,932 --> 01:10:39,458 That's why people... we all sound different, you know 1643 01:10:39,501 --> 01:10:41,697 As you say, is your specialty. 1644 01:10:41,737 --> 01:10:42,830 This, like, who you are. 1645 01:10:42,871 --> 01:10:43,895 Your voice are you? 1646 01:10:43,939 --> 01:10:45,271 This is from your body, 1647 01:10:45,307 --> 01:10:46,707 it is from your personality, 1648 01:10:46,742 --> 01:10:47,971 and we like it. 1649 01:10:48,010 --> 01:10:49,010 Mm-hmm. 1650 01:10:49,011 --> 01:10:50,570 I mean, I still feel sometimes self-aware 1651 01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:51,613 about being gay 1652 01:10:51,647 --> 01:10:52,945 I will imagine you too. 1653 01:10:52,982 --> 01:10:53,982 - Sure. - Yes of course. 1654 01:10:53,983 --> 01:10:55,474 I don't know if that will ever change 1655 01:10:55,517 --> 01:10:56,517 - Right - Yeah. 1656 01:10:56,518 --> 01:10:58,487 I don't think it's possible It's just to leave. 1657 01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,613 - Yeah.
- Right 1658 01:10:59,655 --> 01:11:01,954 And it's sad, 1659 01:11:01,991 --> 01:11:03,357 and also me... but I feel like 1660 01:11:03,392 --> 01:11:06,521 I know how, now, for... /> to push it away 1661 01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:10,522 to return to it head of space, like... 1662 01:11:10,566 --> 01:11:12,262 hura, hura, hah! 1663 01:11:12,301 --> 01:11:14,930 Like, gayer sound, become gayer, go gay! 1664 01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:16,370 You know, like... 1665 01:11:16,405 --> 01:11:17,930 You want to increase your fist in the air 1666 01:11:17,973 --> 01:11:19,601 and... and line up on the road. 1667 01:11:19,642 --> 01:11:23,738 You also want to feel like you can... 1668 01:11:23,779 --> 01:11:24,779 Normal. 1669 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:25,907 I don't think, every day, 1670 01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:28,543 I want to be together with my fist in the air with it 1671 01:11:28,584 --> 01:11:30,917 And we, so we negotiate it, 1672 01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:31,953 like, every day 1673 01:11:31,987 --> 01:11:32,987 - Right - Right 1674 01:11:32,988 --> 01:11:33,988 Under any circumstances. 1675 01:11:33,989 --> 01:11:35,753 Right. Every minute. 1676 01:11:35,791 --> 01:11:36,884 Mm-hmm. 1677 01:11:36,925 --> 01:11:38,018 Right. 1678 01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:39,060 You know, I think that is one reason 1679 01:11:39,295 --> 01:11:42,754 why are we worry what kind of voice our voice 1680 01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:45,427 is that we are taught that's your voice 1681 01:11:45,467 --> 01:11:47,936 who you really are 1682 01:11:50,406 --> 01:11:52,898 My voice < br /> very mysterious to me. 1683 01:11:54,843 --> 01:11:57,711 But I've answered quite a lot all my questions. 1684 01:11:59,048 --> 01:12:00,048 For many gay men... 1685 01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:02,609 That's the last remnant. 1686 01:12:02,651 --> 01:12:05,621 That last part the internalized homophobia 1687 01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:08,715 is this hatred of how they sound 1688 01:12:08,757 --> 01:12:12,057 What's wrong with sounding like who are you 1689 01:12:12,094 --> 01:12:13,858 Sounding like a gay man? 1690 01:12:13,896 --> 01:12:15,888 Having a gay voice? 1691 01:12:17,366 --> 01:12:19,562 I want to find some... some kind-hearted spirits. 1692 01:12:20,936 --> 01:12:24,668 We all have insecurities that are hard to put aside... 1693 01:12:28,010 --> 01:12:29,876 But I have traveled a lot, 1694 01:12:29,912 --> 01:12:33,405 and I am not the only one. 1695 01:12:33,449 --> 01:12:35,475 If I sound gay, you know, bring it. 1696 01:12:35,517 --> 01:12:36,610 I will feel unconscious 1697 01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:39,019 about sounding straight, because I'm not. 1698 01:12:39,054 --> 01:12:40,522 I like my gay voice. 1699 01:12:40,556 --> 01:12:41,683 Like, I don't have to leave to anyone 1700 01:12:41,724 --> 01:12:43,750 I say hello, and this is the finished agreement 1701 01:12:43,792 --> 01:12:48,787 If people hear my voice
and identify me as gay today, 1702 01:12:48,831 --> 01:12:49,831 I will say... 1703 01:12:49,832 --> 01:12:50,832 "Thank you." 1704 01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:51,857 I am proud of this. 1705 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:52,900 Thank you. 1706 01:12:53,902 --> 01:12:56,098 There's nothing wrong by sounding gay 1707 01:12:56,138 --> 01:12:58,573 There's nothing wrong by being a sissy. 1708 01:12:58,607 --> 01:13:00,075 Nothing wrong by being butch 1709 01:13:00,109 --> 01:13:02,840 Nothing wrong by sounding straight. 1710 01:13:04,146 --> 01:13:06,138 Just do it with confidence. 1713 01:13:19,528 --> 01:13:21,121 You know, or hope you do it... 1714 01:13:21,163 --> 01:13:22,163 come to receive it 1715 01:13:22,164 --> 01:13:23,164 So I... 1716 01:13:25,768 --> 01:13:27,703 And I won't think about that at all 1717 01:13:27,736 --> 01:13:30,069 except when I call the dentist and they ask if David 1718 01:13:30,105 --> 01:13:31,505 is a man's name or a woman's name 1719 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:35,401 Do you only have two minutes? for a quick interview? 1720 01:13:35,444 --> 01:13:36,639 - Uh, of course
- Okay, awesome 1721 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,779 They say that you can't handle the answer, 1723 01:13:41,950 --> 01:13:43,714 Do you have two fast minutes to talk? 1724 01:13:43,752 --> 01:13:44,752 - Yeah. - Okay, cool Awesome 1725 01:13:46,121 --> 01:13:47,749 Well, I said 1726 01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:50,589 if you can't handle the answer, 1727 01:13:50,626 --> 01:13:53,061 is the question You have to ask. 1728 01:14:58,026 --> 01:14:59,995 Charles Nelson Reilly, I admire you. 1732 01:15:07,803 --> 01:15:09,897 dress up with high heels 1733 01:15:09,938 --> 01:15:11,167 and tight skirts all the time, 1734 01:15:11,206 --> 01:15:13,641 > 1735 01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:16,167 but straight men don't really have it 1737 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,080 But gay men have found the skin, 1738 01:15:08,081 --> 01:15:20,081 Oh thank you. 1739 01:15:21,917 --> 01:15:23,579 I don't think 1741 01:15:25,587 --> 01:15:30,025 shouts, annoying Bitches, uh, very hot. 1742 01:15:30,058 --> 01:15:32,755 But, you know, You take... 1743 01:15:34,162 --> 01:15:35,892 You take a man-cake, and you put, sort of, 1744 01:15:35,931 --> 01:15:37,797 a little freezing woman glaze on it 1745 01:15:37,833 --> 01:15:39,995 I think it's pretty sexy. 1748 01:15:52,214 --> 01:15:55,275 22 years, we've been together. 1750 01:16:00,289 --> 01:16:01,985 "ugh-ugh" sounds. 1751 01:16:03,025 --> 01:16:04,118 Uvular 1752 01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:07,787 Do I sound gay? 1753 01:16:07,829 --> 01:16:08,829 Hell, yes! 1754 01:16:08,864 --> 01:16:09,888 Do I sound gay? 1755 01:16:09,932 --> 01:16:10,932 Hell, yes! 1756 01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:11,933 Am I sounds gay? 1757 01:16:11,934 --> 01:16:13,163 Hell, yes! 1758 01:16:13,201 --> 01:16:14,201 BBM: 2C05FBF1 LINE: FORTUNEBET99