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(SCHOOL BELL RINGING)
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Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right for you.
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That's all right, Mama
Just any way you do.
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You sing real good, Stevie.
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I'm gonna buy you a Graceland, Mama.
Just like Elvis has got.
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How about you buy me a Promised
Land, since he's got the other one.
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- Okay.
- Come on, let's go.
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Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right for you
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(APPLAUSE)
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Now on to the highlight
of the auction,
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this Napoleon III marble
top mahogany writing table
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is offered at an opening
bid of $15,000.
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- I got $15,000. Do I hear 16?
- 16.
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I hear 16. I got $17,000.
Do I hear 18?
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I got $17,000 going once.
17,000 going twice.
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Do I hear 17,500?
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I got 17,500, do I hear 18?
I got $18,000, do I hear 18,500?
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I got 18,500, do I hear 19?
I got $19,000.
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- Do I hear 19,500?
- MAN: 19,500.
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- I got 19,500. Do I hear 20?
- 20,000.
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I got $20,000.
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- I got $20,000. Do I hear 20,500?
- $20,500.
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I got 20,500. Do I hear 21?
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- 21,000.
- I got $21,000. I got $21,000 going once.
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$21,000 going twice.
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Sold to the gentleman
for $21,000.
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(RADIO PLAYING SOFT JAZZ)
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(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
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It's Michael!
Can I go ride bikes?
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What about your homework?
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I did it, Mama. I want
to show him my new bike.
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Grandpa got it for me. It's so cool.
Please, Mama?
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You know I have to
go to work at 5:00.
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I know. I'll be back.
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Boy, if you are not
back here by 4:30,
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you're gonna be grounded for two weeks.
You hear me?
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Yes. Thanks, Mama. See ya at 4:30.
Love you.
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I love you, too.
Now y'all get out of here.
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(CARTOONS PLAYING ON TV)
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Terry, what are you doing?
Okay, do not mess me up.
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I have to go to work.
I have to go to work!
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Where's the boy?
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He went out riding
bikes with Michael.
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But I told him he
better by home by 4:30.
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AARON: I went under the Black Train
Bridge and up that little road.
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All the way up to Blue
Beacon Truck Stop.
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And I parked my bike back there.
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Where's Bubba?
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I don't see the boy nowhere.
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Well, when you do, you tell
him he's grounded. Two weeks.
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- We'll find him. All right?
- All right.
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See you all in a bit.
Bye, sugar.
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AARON: And when we
all went down there,
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we went across that big
old pipe to that place
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in Robin Hood Woods they
call the Devil's Den.
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And nobody knows what
happened but me.
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Where's Stevie?
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He didn't come home yet, Pam.
We couldn't find him.
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And you last saw him when he
was cleaning the yard at 5:30?
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That's right. I told him to
stay here till I got back.
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I had to punish him for riding
his skateboard in the street.
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Just a couple of
licks with my belt.
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MAN ON POLICE RADIO:
Officer Meek, do you copy?
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This is Meek, go ahead.
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We got a black male at
Bojangles Restaurant.
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Suspect appears to be bleeding.
Could you respond? Over.
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Affirmative. In route.
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Just sit tight and give 'em time.
We'll be in touch.
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Hey, we're not done here yet.
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I got an eight-year-old son
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- out there after dark!
- Hush now.
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Y'all call about a bleeding man?
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Yep. I'm the manager.
I called about it.
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He came in about a half hour ago
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- and went straight into the ladies' bathroom.
- The ladies' restroom?
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Yes, ma'am. The women's room.
He was a black man.
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He seemed mentally disoriented.
Had blood on his face.
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He had a cast on his arm.
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Yeah, we went right
in there after him,
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- and there was blood all over the walls.
- Where is he now?
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He wandered off just
a few minutes ago.
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- I could show you the blood.
- Hold on. I'm gonna look around out here.
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Well now, ain't you
gonna come inside?
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WOMAN: We saw all three
of them go in there.
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PAM: Why didn't you tell
me about this before?
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Everybody's already here.
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Stevie! Stevie! Stevie!
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Can you hear me? Stevie!
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Come on out!
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You're not in trouble, honey.
Come on home!
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Stevie! Stevie!
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Can you hear me?
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What if he drowned in it, Terry?
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Have y'all got anybody out
there looking for my boy?
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Three boys missing?
I'm aware of that.
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We've been looking around in the dark and
there's all sorts of people out there.
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There's neighbors, there's kids,
there's people I don't even know...
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- Yes, listen...
- But I ain't seen one, but one...
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- Ma'am, listen...
- One police officer out there all night long.
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Listen. We are doing
everything we can.
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Now, I appreciate your concern.
I got two boys myself.
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Sometimes boys, they like to
run off and get into things.
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My son is eight years old!
He sleeps with a nightlight on!
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- He did not run away from home.
- Ma'am, you need to calm down.
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I'll calm down when
you find my son.
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We're in front of the school where
three kids are still missing.
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People are worried.
Everyone here is concerned.
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Uh, we're worried 'cause we haven't
seen him since about dinnertime.
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MELISSA: I'm worried about Christopher.
We haven't seen him...
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Coffee?
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Thanks, Annie. Just the check.
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You've been eating in here a lot lately.
Just 'cause you want to visit me?
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Yeah. Not much cooking
at my place these days.
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- I'm kind of glad we're so convenient.
- Keep the rest.
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PAM ON TV: I've never been
this worried in my life.
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REPORTER: Everyone here
seems to be looking around.
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They're all completely worried.
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Not really sure exactly
what's gonna be going on.
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It's not just about these kids.
It's about everybody.
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It's about the concern
as a community.
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GITCHELL: As you know, we have three
boys missing from Holiday Garden.
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We have an entire community that's
concerned here, and that's understandable.
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We got family members
involved, parents involved.
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It's a very delicate situation.
I want you to be thorough,
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but I want you to be easy
with your questioning.
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I will personally be
directing this search.
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Crittenden County Search and
Rescue is gonna be assisting us.
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Memphis PD will help us out.
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The electric company has got a
full list of vacant houses.
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We got plenty of
civilian volunteers.
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Obviously, this takes priority.
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Everything else is in the back seat
from now on till we find these boys.
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And let me tell you something.
We're gonna find these missing boys.
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This is Steve Jones.
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I'm in the woods by that little creek
they call Devil's Den. I found something.
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ALLEN: I'm on my way.
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(GRUNTING IN EXERTION)
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POLICE OFFICER #1 ON RADIO: We've
now found all three bodies.
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Clothes and bicycles.
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- POLICE OFFICER #2 ON
- RADIO: Copy that.
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PAM: No! No!
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(SOBBING)
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Stevie! Oh, God!
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No!
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(SCREAMING)
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RIDGE: Well, I just wanted to
ask y'all about some folks
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who might have come by. I see
y'all had lots of visitors.
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TERRY: Mmm-hmm.
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People been kind. And generous.
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Did a young man named
Bobby DeAngelo stop by?
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Yeah, he come by.
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His parents are friends of ours.
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Was there anybody with him?
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Yeah. Um, this other boy, Chris.
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Christopher Morgan.
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They used to drive an ice cream truck
around here in the neighborhood.
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Was it this young man?
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Mmm-hmm. Yeah, that's him.
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I think Pam fixed him a plate.
There was so much food.
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Bobby asked us for a
picture once of Stevie.
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He, uh...
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He come over here and wanted
to show Stevie a ring
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of some kind of metal or something
like a skull or a snake.
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And then he asked me for
a picture of Stevie.
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And I gave him one.
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Okay. Okay.
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Well, we're gonna need to
get some pictures of Stevie
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to show to people we
interview, and, um...
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Also, we're, uh, gonna
need to go ahead and get
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blood and hair samples
from the two of you.
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Just, you know, part
of our investigation.
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Take it. Just take it.
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Just take all of it.
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- I don't want it.
- That's okay.
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I don't want it. I don't want it.
Is that gonna help?
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It's okay.
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It's okay.
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(PHONE RINGING)
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Oceanside PD. How may I direct your call?
Uh-huh. Right.
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Hey. I'm Chris Morgan.
You wanted to talk to me?
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Last time I seen Stevie was
about a year and a half ago.
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When I sold him some ice cream.
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I'm sure I sold ice cream
to all three of those boys.
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Bobby and me went over to Stevie's house
'cause Bobby was close with them.
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We wanted to show, um, remorse.
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It felt good. They accepted me.
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Uh, what was your overall
impression of Chris Morgan?
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MCDONOUGH: Well, look, there's
something going on here,
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and it makes me a little suspicious that
he left for California in such a hurry.
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- Okay, uh, you do me a favor?
- Sure.
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- Could you re-interview him, please?
- Uh-huh.
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- We're under a lot of pressure down here.
- Yeah, I bet.
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You got your work
cut out for you.
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- Yeah.
- Let me go at him again.
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All right. Thank you, Detective.
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You should, like... You gotta do
like album covers and shit, Jason.
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Yeah, maybe. Maybe someday.
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(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
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Heavy metal music. Ouija boards.
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All these are gateways to a dark
world of violence and destruction.
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Everything from vandalism,
animal mutilation,
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to the ritual sacrifice of children.
Thousands of them every year.
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My boy, Aaron... He's a
close friend of them boys.
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I mean, Michael Moore and Chris
Byers is his two best friends.
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Did you ride your bike
to Robin Hood Woods?
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- Yes.
- Excuse me, Aaron.
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When we ask you a question,
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we want you to look in the
camera, if you don't mind.
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- Okay?
- Okay.
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Just look right in the lens.
Okay.
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Were you present
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- when those boys were killed?
- Yes.
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What did the hospital
tell you, Damien?
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At Charter Hospital, I was
diagnosed as manic depressive.
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I'm in therapy now and on
imipramine for depression.
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I'm just curious. How do
you think the killer felt?
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They liked it. Happy.
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It was a thrill kill.
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How about you, Jason?
Did you know the three boys?
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No, sir.
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- Do you believe in God?
- Yes, I do.
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How about you, Damien?
You believe in God?
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Or the devil?
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I believe in a god.
A female god.
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And an evil force. Not a devil.
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I used to be involved in the
Wiccan religion. White witchcraft.
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When you would go out
to Robin Hood Woods,
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- who would you go with?
- With Chris and Michael.
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Did you ever see
anything out there?
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We saw, uh, men.
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(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
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I ran and Jessie caught me.
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Um, he tied me up.
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He tried to cut me on my side.
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I kicked him.
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Then he grabbed my hands
and made me cut Chris.
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This is Detective Bryn Ridge of the
West Memphis Police Department,
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currently in the office with
Jessie Lloyd Misskelley Junior.
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Jessie, on Wednesday, May 5,
1993, early in the morning,
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you received a phone call.
Is that correct?
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Yeah, I did.
Jason Baldwin called me
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and he asked if I could go
to West Memphis with him,
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and I told him no.
I had to work and stuff.
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And then he told me that he had to go.
So him and Damien, they went.
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Then I went with them up to the...
Up to the Robin Hood.
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Jessie and Damien
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picked him up and put a
bucket where he was bleeding.
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So you saw Damien strike
Chris Byers in the head?
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- Right.
- What did he hit him with?
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Well, he hit him with his fist
and bruised him all up real bad.
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And then Jason, he turned,
and he hit Stevie Branch,
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and that's when Michael
Moore, he took off.
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So I chased him, grabbed him and
held him until they got there.
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And then, and
that's when I left.
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Who had a knife?
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Jason. I saw him cut one
of those little boys.
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(WOMAN SCREAMING ON TV)
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(WOMAN SCREAMING ON TV)
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(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
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MAN ON TV: There's someone
inside your house.
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He's gonna kill you.
You have to run for it.
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It's the police.
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Michelle, get the door.
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We're looking for Damien Echols.
Come on.
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All right, go check the back.
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You his sister? Folks not home?
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- What are you doing?
- We were just watching a movie.
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Come on, stop.
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Jason Baldwin, you're
under arrest, too.
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- What for?
- Capital...
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Shut up!
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- Capital murder.
- He didn't do anything!
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You got the wrong people.
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Hey, boss. West Memphis PD is
holding a press conference.
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GITCHELL: ...police force and
families of the victims.
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Damien Echols, Jason
Baldwin, Jessie Misskelley
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were arrested last night, will
be charged in the murders
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of the three boys we found last
month in the Robin Hood Woods.
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FEMALE REPORTER: Inspector Gitchell, do
you know the motive for the killings?
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I do, but I can't comment
on that at this time.
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MALE REPORTER #1: Can
we interview them?
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MALE REPORTER #2: Were the three
defendants a member of a cult?
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I can't comment on that either.
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FEMALE REPORTER: Well,
on a scale of one to 10,
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how solid do you
feel your case is?
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Eleven.
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(APPLAUSE)
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Apparently, the break in the case was
the confession of Jessie Misskelley,
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one of the accused in
this horrific crime
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that has shocked this
entire community.
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Satanism is out there.
And you must be watchful
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for the six indicators
of Satanic involvement.
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Obsession with death. Satanic
paraphernalia. Kidnapping. Sexual abuse.
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Cannibalism. And cremation.
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And I believe that there may
be others who knew that,
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that these three babies were going to be
sacrificed. My wife and I are scared.
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Satan and his demons have already
been at work here in West Memphis.
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Worship of evil debated
as motive in killings.
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This article in the West
Memphis Evening Times
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claims that people
who knew Damien said
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he dressed in black and
carried a cat skull.
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It also claims he wears the
number 666 inside his boots.
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And then it goes on to
quote two unnamed girls,
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one who said she's seen
Damien drink blood.
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And another who said
Damien threatened
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to cut off a boy's head off
and put it on a doorstep.
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Sounds like an
energetic young man.
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There is definitely a connection
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between hard metal
music and Satanism.
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Apparently, some residents suspect
a Satanic cult is responsible.
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One local minister said Damien
Echols, the alleged ringleader,
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had made, quote, a pact with the
devil and will be going to hell.
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Another called the murders an
incarnation, a manifestation of evil.
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WOMAN NEWSCASTER ON RADIO:
and the upcoming
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nuclear disarmament
talks in Ukraine.
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In West Memphis, prosecutors
have confirmed that the State
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will seek the death penalty for
all three teenage defendants.
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Arkansas has executed four individuals
since the Supreme Court ruling
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allowed the State to reinstate
capital punishment.
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Two in 1990 and two more...
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LAX: Can you believe
this, Glori?
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The death penalty. And all
three of 'em teenagers.
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My God, Jason Baldwin's only 16.
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They'll need a good investigator,
and the court will never pay.
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00:31:52,786 --> 00:31:55,873
Tell those court appointed lawyers if
they want me, I'm offering my services.
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00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:59,835
Pro bono? Are you sure you
want to do that, boss?
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00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:01,712
I mean, we have got a lot
on our plate right now.
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00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,131
We got that big
insurance fraud case.
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00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:06,759
This just isn't the best time
to be working for a 'cause.
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00:32:06,842 --> 00:32:09,970
You know how I feel about these death
penalty cases. It's the least I can do.
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I know, but this crime
is unthinkable.
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What if they did it?
Have you thought of that?
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00:32:15,434 --> 00:32:17,770
And what if they didn't?
And even if they did,
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00:32:18,312 --> 00:32:21,398
I think three dead kids is enough.
I'm on my way.
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00:32:22,358 --> 00:32:25,110
Mr. Lax, I'm Dan Stidham.
I represent Jessie Misskelley.
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This is Paul Ford from Jonesboro.
He represents Jason Baldwin.
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00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:32,034
And Val Price is the public
defender who's been appointed
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to represent Damien Echols.
Please have a seat.
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I understand Jessie has
recanted his confession.
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Does that surprise you?
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No. It's hard to believe
anyone would confess
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to such a crime if
he hadn't done it.
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Got any experts lined up?
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I've got a doctor who
will testify that Jessie
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reasons on the level of a
six to eight-year-old.
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00:32:52,763 --> 00:32:55,140
He was once diagnosed
as mentally retarded.
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00:32:56,058 --> 00:32:59,562
- Do you think he's guilty?
- In my experience, most of them are.
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PRICE: So Mr. Lax, if
they're most likely guilty,
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why volunteer to help
us build a case?
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LAX: Because if you don't
have a strong case,
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the State is going to
kill three young men.
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00:33:14,994 --> 00:33:17,538
And I can't stand by
and watch that happen.
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00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:19,582
Now, tell me about
Damien Echols.
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STIDHAM: He lives in a trailer park
with his family, on social assistance.
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00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:27,506
Difficult kid. He's had
serious run-ins with the law.
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He spent time in
juvenile detention.
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00:33:31,927 --> 00:33:37,516
Now being as I've been his probation
officer for as long as I've been,
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he always seems to me
to be like one of these
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slasher movie-type guys.
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His boots and coat,
heavy metal music,
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long, stringy black hair.
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00:33:55,618 --> 00:33:58,203
Now, may I... Have you
seen his case file?
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I mean, this boy is troubled.
He's been in and out of psychiatric wards.
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00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:06,545
And he said he was
involved in the occult.
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00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:09,715
Oh, yeah. Some of his followers
included Jason Baldwin.
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00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:13,052
And of course, his
pregnant girlfriend.
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00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:17,598
He's got her name
carved on his arm.
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00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,393
- And I worry about that baby.
- Why?
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00:34:22,186 --> 00:34:24,396
Because of the rumor that they're
going to sacrifice it to Satan.
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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,522
You're saying you
actually believe that?
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00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:27,733
- You bet I do.
- Come on, Jerry.
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00:34:30,277 --> 00:34:33,781
All that occult-crime, Satanic-panic
stuff's been studied by the FBI
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00:34:33,864 --> 00:34:36,033
and they say it's all
smoke and no fire.
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00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:38,786
I know what I've seen
with my own two eyes.
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00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:42,539
And I'm telling you evidence of occult
activity was everywhere that summer.
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00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:47,336
In this old abandoned
schoolhouse...
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00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:50,714
I mean, Steve Jones
saw something.
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00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:59,181
It's like a picture I'd seen in a book
about the serial killer, Son of Sam.
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00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:02,601
Like somebody had
restaged the scene.
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00:35:04,103 --> 00:35:07,690
Or re-enacted it.
So ever since that summer.
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00:35:07,773 --> 00:35:10,859
I've been telling the local
police to watch him.
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00:35:11,694 --> 00:35:13,362
'Cause I knew something
bad was gonna happen.
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00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:17,366
I sent Steve Jones over
to Damien's house.
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00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:21,412
And he found all sorts of
crazy stuff in Damien's room.
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00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:24,123
Evidence of his
interest in the occult.
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00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:31,004
About a year ago, Damien told me
that the local devil worshippers
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had reached the end of their
animal sacrifice stage.
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00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:36,218
And I'm talking about things
they do to receive power.
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00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,224
So that summer, he said they were
gonna take the next logical step.
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Sacrifice a human. A human.
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00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:54,069
- Stevie.
- Pam. Dreaming again.
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00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:56,864
Dream.
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00:35:58,365 --> 00:35:59,366
Come here.
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00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:21,680
You have asthma and you smoke?
396
00:36:22,931 --> 00:36:25,017
I guess I'm just
self-destructive.
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00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:31,899
I spoke to your probation
officer, Jerry Driver.
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00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:35,486
- He had a lot to say about you.
- I bet.
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00:36:37,654 --> 00:36:40,699
Said they found a lot
of stuff in your room.
400
00:36:40,783 --> 00:36:44,161
- Evidence of your interest in the occult.
- My notebooks.
401
00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:47,289
They're just song
lyrics I liked.
402
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,793
Quotes from my favorite
books and movies.
403
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:54,004
What about the
things you told him?
404
00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:57,633
About devil worshippers planning
on making human sacrifices.
405
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:02,554
I was just messing
with his mind.
406
00:37:04,598 --> 00:37:08,727
That you threatened to eat your
father and cut your mother's throat.
407
00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:10,896
Driver's a liar.
408
00:37:11,522 --> 00:37:16,902
It's not just Driver. There's a lot of
people saying things, damaging things.
409
00:37:18,987 --> 00:37:20,239
Listen to this.
410
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,074
Why should I listen to you?
411
00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:25,953
Why should I answer your questions?
Are you my lawyer?
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00:37:26,537 --> 00:37:29,081
No. I'm working with them.
413
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:35,045
You're working for them? What are
you, like a lawyer's assistant?
414
00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:38,131
I'm an investigator.
415
00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:41,635
But you won't be
representing me in court.
416
00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:45,514
No. No, I'm not
allowed to do that.
417
00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:49,351
So I'm just supposed to trust you?
Tell you everything?
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00:37:50,143 --> 00:37:52,354
If you want me to help you, yes.
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00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:01,280
Those cops are scary, okay?
420
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:08,245
They will do anything to get people
to say what they want to hear.
421
00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:14,251
Why would so many people say
all these things about you?
422
00:38:14,918 --> 00:38:18,422
Why did those girls say people
were witches back in Salem?
423
00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:21,216
Any time anything weird
happens around here,
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00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,844
people blame it on
devil worshippers.
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00:38:25,178 --> 00:38:26,430
And on me.
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00:38:31,393 --> 00:38:35,731
What about the incident when you were
locked up at the JDC in Jonesboro?
427
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:37,441
They say you drank
some kid's blood.
428
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:41,570
I didn't attack him.
He offered it.
429
00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:48,285
I did that with a knife.
That's my girlfriend's name.
430
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:51,538
I've been cutting
myself for a long time.
431
00:38:51,622 --> 00:38:52,915
Why?
432
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,960
There's power in the blood.
433
00:38:58,128 --> 00:38:59,922
It's how we get power.
434
00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:04,259
Through drinking the
blood of others.
435
00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:09,348
By biting, cutting.
436
00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:13,268
And rituals.
437
00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:18,982
I've been doing it since I
was, like, 10 years old.
438
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:25,113
These people think I'm a
Satanic leader. I'm not.
439
00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:29,201
They think I'm in a cult.
I'm not.
440
00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:33,246
I just have an
interest in witchcraft
441
00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:36,416
as a way to power, to control.
442
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:47,636
Pam, do you feel the people who
did this were worshipping, um...
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00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:52,182
- Satan? Yes, I do. I do.
- Why?
444
00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:58,230
Just look at 'em. They look like punks.
They look like freaks.
445
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:01,984
You don't look like that when
you're, like, a normal person.
446
00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:05,445
And they listen to that music.
447
00:40:05,988 --> 00:40:10,367
And everybody knows they...
I heard from a bunch of people
448
00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:14,997
that they been hearing that they
been, you know, worshipping Satan
449
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,249
and killing dogs and
things like that.
450
00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:20,210
REPORTER: You think the way they dress
had something to do with the...
451
00:40:20,252 --> 00:40:24,923
PAM: Absolutely yes, I do. You don't dress
like that when you... When you, um...
452
00:40:25,298 --> 00:40:29,511
- Pam, what are you holding?
- Oh, this? Um, this is
453
00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:33,098
part of Stevie's
Boy Scout uniform.
454
00:40:33,432 --> 00:40:37,060
I got it back yesterday, and I've been
wearing it on my head, like that.
455
00:40:37,394 --> 00:40:39,438
(LAUGHS)
Did he like scouting?
456
00:40:40,397 --> 00:40:45,652
Oh, yeah. He loved it.
He loved it. He did.
457
00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:52,659
He'd be so excited when he'd be having a
day that he'd go to Boy Scout meetings.
458
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,953
Um... Yeah, he did.
459
00:41:10,177 --> 00:41:12,012
I saw you on TV.
460
00:41:16,475 --> 00:41:18,310
What the hell are you doing?
461
00:41:20,395 --> 00:41:22,314
You're supposed to
be in mourning.
462
00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:26,902
You're not acting right.
463
00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:30,363
What's that supposed to mean?
464
00:41:32,783 --> 00:41:38,288
On the TV. Treating his scarf
like some kind of prop.
465
00:41:41,625 --> 00:41:43,668
Acting like a
goddamn silly fool.
466
00:41:46,505 --> 00:41:50,592
I'm not acting at all, Terry.
Are you?
467
00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,971
Is that what you've been doing?
468
00:41:57,516 --> 00:42:00,644
I think maybe you're
glad Stevie's gone.
469
00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,939
'Cause you were always hard on him.
Way too hard.
470
00:42:07,943 --> 00:42:10,028
What the hell are
you talking about?
471
00:42:10,112 --> 00:42:11,780
Every time I spent
time with him,
472
00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:14,324
or I fell asleep with him
'cause he was afraid,
473
00:42:14,366 --> 00:42:16,201
you blamed him.
You was jealous of him.
474
00:42:16,243 --> 00:42:17,869
You shut up!
475
00:42:17,953 --> 00:42:21,873
What? You'll hit me? Now that
he's gone, I'm all you got left?
476
00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:27,712
Go ahead. Hit me. Hit me.
I dare you, hit me.
477
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,132
(GRUNTING)
478
00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:33,885
(GLASS SMASHING)
479
00:42:41,393 --> 00:42:45,480
AMANDA: Mommy? Daddy?
480
00:42:49,693 --> 00:42:51,236
You hear that?
481
00:42:55,574 --> 00:42:57,576
You ain't the only
one I got left.
482
00:43:07,127 --> 00:43:09,880
You're supposed to be
a grieving mother.
483
00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:13,842
You start behaving like one.
484
00:43:16,428 --> 00:43:18,054
You hear me?
485
00:43:31,526 --> 00:43:37,073
JESSIE: Daddy, they asked me a
lot of questions over and over.
486
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,702
Tons of questions, and I
tried to make them happy.
487
00:43:41,703 --> 00:43:43,914
But I did not do it.
488
00:43:49,628 --> 00:43:53,006
Superior Court of Crittenden
County, come to order.
489
00:43:58,053 --> 00:44:00,972
Since Mr. Misskelley has
retracted his confession,
490
00:44:01,014 --> 00:44:04,851
I presume he will not be testifying
against his co-defendants.
491
00:44:05,477 --> 00:44:07,062
That is correct, Your Honor.
492
00:44:07,229 --> 00:44:09,856
Then I rule his trial
be severed from theirs
493
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:12,400
because they would be denied
their constitutional right
494
00:44:12,484 --> 00:44:14,152
to cross examine their accuser.
495
00:44:15,237 --> 00:44:18,740
- Anything else?
- No. Thank you.
496
00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:26,623
Separate trials.
Jessie's gonna be tried on his own.
497
00:44:27,123 --> 00:44:28,917
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
498
00:44:30,252 --> 00:44:32,587
Murderer! Murderer!
499
00:44:44,516 --> 00:44:46,810
- MAN: Satan worshippers!
- (CROWD YELLS INDISTINCTLY)
500
00:45:13,128 --> 00:45:14,921
MARGARET: Hey, I
tried you at home.
501
00:45:15,630 --> 00:45:18,216
I need to talk to you about
something, in person.
502
00:45:18,508 --> 00:45:22,220
Will you meet me for lunch
tomorrow, 1:00 at the Arcade?
503
00:45:22,804 --> 00:45:26,099
It's really important.
Okay. Good night.
504
00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:28,268
(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPING)
505
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,063
GITCHELL: Tell me what happened
when you got to Robin Hood Woods.
506
00:45:32,105 --> 00:45:35,900
Jessie started running
and caught Steve.
507
00:45:36,901 --> 00:45:41,197
Then Michael and Chris
jumped out of the tree.
508
00:45:42,574 --> 00:45:47,412
Then, um, they took them,
509
00:45:47,996 --> 00:45:52,083
and, um, they killed them.
510
00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:57,130
(REMOTE CLATTERING)
511
00:46:34,125 --> 00:46:36,961
Jessie and Damien picked him up
512
00:46:37,003 --> 00:46:40,507
and put a bucket where
he was bleeding.
513
00:46:41,633 --> 00:46:46,596
Then they poured it in a
glass and made me drink it.
514
00:46:46,971 --> 00:46:51,142
And nobody knows what
happened but me.
515
00:47:35,478 --> 00:47:38,189
- What would you like?
- May I have a tea, please?
516
00:47:38,481 --> 00:47:40,984
- Sweet or unsweet?
- Unsweet, please.
517
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:43,987
And you would like coffee, black,
with a glass of water, right?
518
00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:45,947
Right. Thanks, Annie.
519
00:47:47,740 --> 00:47:50,618
- Annie.
- I'm in here a lot these days.
520
00:47:51,369 --> 00:47:53,204
She's very pretty.
She likes you.
521
00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:55,165
She just likes a good tip.
522
00:47:55,498 --> 00:47:58,042
Thanks for meeting me.
I know you're very busy.
523
00:47:58,084 --> 00:47:59,627
It's good to hear from you.
524
00:48:00,628 --> 00:48:02,714
What's so important, Maggie?
525
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:10,054
The State Police. They called me.
Then they came by my office,
526
00:48:10,096 --> 00:48:13,892
and they were asking all these
questions about you, about your past.
527
00:48:14,726 --> 00:48:17,187
They knew everything about
our divorce proceeding.
528
00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:19,189
They knew everything.
529
00:48:19,397 --> 00:48:22,317
It's like they were digging for
something to use against you
530
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,489
and expected me to help, as if I'd be
out to get you because of the divorce.
531
00:48:27,989 --> 00:48:32,660
I was so insulted, I was so angry, and
I said what they were doing was wrong.
532
00:48:34,704 --> 00:48:37,290
I may have even made some
legal threats to them.
533
00:48:37,624 --> 00:48:41,419
I mean, you're a respected man in
this city. You're not on trial here.
534
00:48:42,378 --> 00:48:43,671
It's fine.
535
00:48:44,047 --> 00:48:47,133
Thanks for telling me about
this and for having my back.
536
00:48:47,217 --> 00:48:48,426
Here you go.
537
00:48:48,468 --> 00:48:49,802
(SIGHING)
538
00:48:57,435 --> 00:48:59,270
My attorney said he
sent you the agreement.
539
00:48:59,354 --> 00:49:02,482
I got it. I think
maybe I misplaced it.
540
00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:04,609
He can send another one.
541
00:49:04,734 --> 00:49:06,277
It's just that with all the
paperwork in the case,
542
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:09,447
you know, things get jumbled up.
Anyway, I'll find it.
543
00:49:10,698 --> 00:49:12,575
Ron, I'm worried about you.
544
00:49:13,785 --> 00:49:15,912
These boys that you're helping,
545
00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:19,791
from what I've seen on TV
and read in the papers...
546
00:49:20,792 --> 00:49:23,628
The police seem so certain.
Are you sure you want to do this?
547
00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:27,382
Yes. Yes, I am.
548
00:49:27,507 --> 00:49:31,010
It's just that sometimes you
take these things so personally.
549
00:49:31,427 --> 00:49:35,306
You know, you lose perspective.
You get obsessed.
550
00:49:35,515 --> 00:49:36,891
That's right, Maggie.
551
00:49:37,767 --> 00:49:39,477
You know when I see something
like this happening,
552
00:49:39,561 --> 00:49:41,604
when I see a town lose
three of its children,
553
00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:45,483
then sacrifice three more for revenge,
then I do take it personally.
554
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:48,570
And maybe I do get a
little bit obsessed.
555
00:49:48,778 --> 00:49:52,865
So I'll just keep doing things my way.
You don't have to worry about me anymore.
556
00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:56,119
You know, if the police are so goddamned
certain about their case then tell me this.
557
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,205
Why are they coming to me,
harassing my ex-wife?
558
00:50:00,456 --> 00:50:03,167
You know, I just remembered, I
have to be in court. Early.
559
00:50:03,668 --> 00:50:07,714
So thanks again for what you did.
And I'll sign the papers.
560
00:50:08,673 --> 00:50:11,593
Ron, please don't.
561
00:50:16,514 --> 00:50:20,852
RIDGE: And then we followed
Detective Allen into the woods.
562
00:50:23,646 --> 00:50:26,149
All the way down
to Ten Mile Bayou.
563
00:50:27,692 --> 00:50:32,447
Near the big drainpipe behind
the truck wash. And, uh...
564
00:50:34,282 --> 00:50:38,494
This trial's a waste of time.
We all know he's guilty.
565
00:50:38,703 --> 00:50:41,581
We ought to just fry him
and get it over with.
566
00:50:42,206 --> 00:50:46,544
Then maybe these journalist parasites
can go back to wherever they come from.
567
00:50:48,504 --> 00:50:52,008
Crawled on my hands and knees
and felt along with my hands
568
00:50:52,091 --> 00:50:55,595
and came to a piece of cloth.
569
00:50:56,512 --> 00:50:59,932
This ended up being
a white shirt
570
00:51:00,141 --> 00:51:04,187
that was jabbed into
the mud with a stick.
571
00:51:04,562 --> 00:51:08,733
I moved further along the ditch
and came to what would be the
572
00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:10,902
second body.
573
00:51:14,072 --> 00:51:18,701
This is the body of Steve Branch
after I pulled him from the water.
574
00:51:18,743 --> 00:51:19,994
(SPECTATORS GASPING)
575
00:51:20,244 --> 00:51:22,246
(WHISPERING INDISTINCTLY)
576
00:51:33,091 --> 00:51:35,009
(MUMBLES INCOHERENTLY)
577
00:52:07,166 --> 00:52:08,626
Stevie.
578
00:52:48,833 --> 00:52:50,126
(SIGHING)
579
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:41,302
MRS. WILSON: Who can
solve this problem?
580
00:53:44,138 --> 00:53:46,808
- Mrs. Wilson?
- Yes.
581
00:53:46,891 --> 00:53:50,394
- I'm so sorry to interrupt, I...
- That's okay.
582
00:53:51,229 --> 00:53:55,316
I just, uh, found this,
583
00:53:55,399 --> 00:54:00,071
this homework that
Stevie did that day.
584
00:54:00,613 --> 00:54:06,619
Before. And I'm just wondering
if you, you could grade it.
585
00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:10,915
- Sure.
- Thank you.
586
00:54:28,474 --> 00:54:32,228
It's perfect, as usual.
He was very good at math.
587
00:54:38,693 --> 00:54:42,196
He studied real
hard at everything.
588
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:44,323
He was a good boy.
589
00:54:44,657 --> 00:54:46,325
Yes, ma'am, he was.
590
00:54:47,994 --> 00:54:49,787
Thank you.
591
00:54:50,246 --> 00:54:53,749
- Mrs. Hobbs?
- Yes.
592
00:55:15,396 --> 00:55:19,942
Inspector, during the course of your
conversation with Mr. Misskelley,
593
00:55:20,151 --> 00:55:23,029
was there a portion of a tape
played for the defendant?
594
00:55:23,321 --> 00:55:26,365
Uh, yes, sir. I played this.
595
00:55:31,704 --> 00:55:33,080
(FEEDBACK FROM MICROPHONE)
596
00:55:33,164 --> 00:55:37,960
AARON: And nobody knows
what happened but me.
597
00:55:38,836 --> 00:55:42,340
And after hearing the tape, what
was the defendant's reaction?
598
00:55:42,632 --> 00:55:46,135
Jessie immediately stated that
he wanted to tell us about it.
599
00:55:46,218 --> 00:55:49,722
Then he said that he was present
when the boys were murdered.
600
00:55:52,308 --> 00:55:54,560
Now, you got in front
of you pictures
601
00:55:55,102 --> 00:55:56,729
of the three boys
that were killed.
602
00:55:56,812 --> 00:56:00,316
Now, which one of these three is
it you say you saw Damien hit?
603
00:56:02,777 --> 00:56:07,239
Misskelley has indicated the
third photo, which will be...
604
00:56:07,657 --> 00:56:09,450
Michael Moore.
605
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:18,542
Are you pointing... Uh,
that's the Byers boy.
606
00:56:19,502 --> 00:56:20,795
Christopher?
607
00:56:20,878 --> 00:56:23,255
Yeah. Is that who
you're pointing at?
608
00:56:23,339 --> 00:56:24,715
Uh-huh. Yeah.
609
00:56:30,846 --> 00:56:33,099
What time did all
this take place?
610
00:56:35,142 --> 00:56:37,603
About 12:00 noon.
611
00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:41,899
Okay. Was it after
school let out?
612
00:56:43,526 --> 00:56:45,861
I... I don't go to school.
613
00:56:46,654 --> 00:56:47,989
These little boys...
614
00:56:48,072 --> 00:56:53,869
No, no, no. They...
(STAMMERS) They skipped school.
615
00:56:59,041 --> 00:57:02,294
STIDHAM: The little boys didn't skip
school that day, did they, Inspector?
616
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:04,463
No, the little boys did not.
617
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:07,258
When Jessie said the murders
took place around noon,
618
00:57:07,466 --> 00:57:10,261
you knew that wasn't
correct, did you not?
619
00:57:10,428 --> 00:57:12,138
That's right.
620
00:57:12,221 --> 00:57:15,433
Jessie, uh, what time did the
boys come into the woods?
621
00:57:17,393 --> 00:57:20,438
What, I would say
about 5:00 or 6:00.
622
00:57:20,938 --> 00:57:25,735
Earlier, uh, you said 7:00 or 8:00.
What time is it?
623
00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:27,737
It was 7:00 or 8:00.
624
00:57:27,778 --> 00:57:29,864
It was... Are you...
You are sure of that?
625
00:57:29,947 --> 00:57:32,199
Yeah, yeah. It was
getting dark outside.
626
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:34,118
Okay.
627
00:57:36,412 --> 00:57:38,706
And what did they use to
tie the boys up with?
628
00:57:42,585 --> 00:57:43,919
Rope.
629
00:57:47,089 --> 00:57:51,302
How were the boys tied when
the bodies were discovered?
630
00:57:51,343 --> 00:57:52,803
They were tied by their
own shoestrings.
631
00:57:55,473 --> 00:57:58,893
Why didn't he know those things?
Why is he wrong?
632
00:58:01,729 --> 00:58:03,856
If Jessie was there,
why didn't he know?
633
00:58:03,939 --> 00:58:05,524
It don't matter, Pam.
634
00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:06,859
It does matter.
635
00:58:06,942 --> 00:58:09,487
He did it. He did.
636
00:58:09,779 --> 00:58:13,491
GITCHELL: Activity which is
common in my 20 years' career.
637
00:58:13,824 --> 00:58:16,660
I'm not talking about Jessie lessening
his involvement in the crimes.
638
00:58:16,702 --> 00:58:20,164
I'm saying is it common for
the police to simply ignore
639
00:58:20,372 --> 00:58:23,876
all those big, obvious
problems with his story
640
00:58:23,959 --> 00:58:28,339
and assume that everything else he's
telling you has got to be correct?
641
00:58:29,006 --> 00:58:32,510
Jessie simply got confused.
That's all.
642
00:58:34,762 --> 00:58:39,600
JUDGE: I repeat. I am acutely aware
there's a great deal of emotion involved.
643
00:58:39,683 --> 00:58:43,979
But this court will not
tolerate any verbal outburst,
644
00:58:44,355 --> 00:58:47,858
any display of
emotion whatsoever.
645
00:58:54,323 --> 00:58:56,534
The verdicts read as follows.
646
00:58:57,368 --> 00:59:00,871
"We the jury find Jessie Lloyd
Misskelley Junior guilty"
647
00:59:00,955 --> 00:59:04,458
"of murder in the first degree
in the death of Michael Moore."
648
00:59:05,376 --> 00:59:09,463
"And of second degree murder in
the deaths of Christopher Byers"
649
00:59:09,547 --> 00:59:10,631
"and Steven Branch."
650
00:59:13,634 --> 00:59:15,553
(SPECTATORS MURMURING)
651
00:59:20,474 --> 00:59:24,228
It's almost over, Pam.
We're gonna win.
652
00:59:28,899 --> 00:59:31,152
The sentence. How do you
feel about the sentence?
653
00:59:31,235 --> 00:59:33,571
Do you think it was a just
and a proper sentence?
654
00:59:34,071 --> 00:59:37,241
Life plus 40? Well,
it's fine with me.
655
00:59:37,408 --> 00:59:39,618
It's one down, two to go.
656
00:59:39,702 --> 00:59:42,955
And the good Lord said Lucifer
and a third of the angels
657
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,499
were cast out of heaven.
He didn't need 'em.
658
00:59:45,583 --> 00:59:48,794
'Cause he took their minds
and manipulated them.
659
00:59:48,878 --> 00:59:51,922
And they prayed to their Devil
and they prayed to their Satan,
660
00:59:51,964 --> 00:59:55,509
and did all kinds of
Satanic worship services.
661
00:59:55,593 --> 00:59:59,096
Wild, crazy orgies,
I've been told.
662
01:00:07,396 --> 01:00:10,107
There's a war going on.
663
01:00:11,317 --> 01:00:15,487
It's a war between Satan,
Lucifer and the Lord.
664
01:00:15,571 --> 01:00:16,572
Mrs. Hobbs?
665
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:23,120
TERRY: Hey.
666
01:00:28,292 --> 01:00:30,211
You stay away from us.
667
01:00:32,213 --> 01:00:35,925
You don't talk to her.
Understand?
668
01:00:38,969 --> 01:00:43,974
You hear me? You bother my
wife, and by God, it's on.
669
01:00:44,016 --> 01:00:47,561
All right, Terry, let's go home.
Come on. Come on.
670
01:00:52,483 --> 01:00:57,905
JOHN: And I say bring it on. For me
this place is like hell on Earth.
671
01:00:58,822 --> 01:01:04,995
'Cause I know three babies were killed.
I know my son was castrated.
672
01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:08,082
And lay on that bank
and bled to death.
673
01:01:08,290 --> 01:01:09,959
I know he was choked.
674
01:01:14,171 --> 01:01:16,173
How's the documentary
coming along?
675
01:01:16,382 --> 01:01:17,925
Y'all been here
every day, right?
676
01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:20,344
Interviewing families.
Must be fascinating.
677
01:01:23,138 --> 01:01:26,642
Yeah. We're, uh, getting
some pretty good stuff.
678
01:01:27,977 --> 01:01:30,688
Especially John Mark Byers
seems to like the attention.
679
01:01:30,854 --> 01:01:32,523
Well, he's not shy,
that's for sure.
680
01:01:32,731 --> 01:01:36,193
Did he ever do or say
anything unusual?
681
01:01:36,902 --> 01:01:41,615
I don't just mean holding forth
for cameras and reporters.
682
01:01:43,158 --> 01:01:46,662
I mean, like something
suspicious or strange?
683
01:01:47,371 --> 01:01:52,543
Yeah. He did do something strange.
Very strange.
684
01:01:54,128 --> 01:01:57,756
He gave this as a gift
to the documentary crew.
685
01:01:58,465 --> 01:02:01,176
So when were you planning
on telling us about it?
686
01:02:01,510 --> 01:02:05,014
Mr. Fogleman released the records
concerning this knife yesterday.
687
01:02:06,098 --> 01:02:09,601
But you've known about it for months.
How could you not tell us about it?
688
01:02:09,727 --> 01:02:13,230
Well, we had to send it to the lab first.
DNA testing.
689
01:02:13,564 --> 01:02:15,357
There was blood on the knife.
690
01:02:15,858 --> 01:02:17,568
Just a little bit.
691
01:02:17,693 --> 01:02:22,072
I'll show you right here.
Lock joint where the blade folds back.
692
01:02:22,531 --> 01:02:23,532
Just not much.
693
01:02:25,284 --> 01:02:28,787
Where you might miss it if you're
trying to wipe the blade clean.
694
01:02:31,248 --> 01:02:33,250
That did cross my mind.
695
01:02:33,917 --> 01:02:38,422
On January 26, 1994, Gitchell asked
you, "Have you used the knife?"
696
01:02:38,464 --> 01:02:41,383
And you said, "I never used it.
Hopefully I was going to use it"
697
01:02:41,425 --> 01:02:45,095
"for deer hunting, but I never had the
opportunity to use it on a deer."
698
01:02:45,179 --> 01:02:49,975
That's right. But the reason that I said
that was 'cause I never hunted with it.
699
01:02:50,184 --> 01:02:53,687
I didn't mean that I didn't try
to use it to cut some venison.
700
01:02:54,396 --> 01:02:57,483
Did Inspector Gitchell tell you,
"We found blood on this knife"?
701
01:02:57,566 --> 01:02:58,650
I don't remember.
702
01:02:58,817 --> 01:03:01,320
Check your transcript. Page 7.
703
01:03:01,779 --> 01:03:05,115
Now, I'll ask you again.
Did Gitchell tell you,
704
01:03:05,282 --> 01:03:08,786
"We found blood on this knife"?
705
01:03:09,161 --> 01:03:10,162
Yes, sir.
706
01:03:10,245 --> 01:03:13,749
Did Gitchell tell you the blood
on the knife was Chris' blood?
707
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:15,626
I don't remember.
It might be in here.
708
01:03:15,709 --> 01:03:18,170
Did you tell Gitchell,
"I have no idea"
709
01:03:18,253 --> 01:03:20,130
"how Chris' blood could
be on that knife"?
710
01:03:20,255 --> 01:03:23,300
Yes, sir. I would
not have any idea.
711
01:03:23,467 --> 01:03:26,970
Did you have any idea how
human blood was on the knife?
712
01:03:27,221 --> 01:03:30,516
Well, yes. As I was
trying to use the knife
713
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:33,644
to cut some venison and make
some beef jerky with it,
714
01:03:34,186 --> 01:03:35,729
I cut my thumb.
715
01:03:35,813 --> 01:03:37,815
Mr. Byers, do you recall saying,
716
01:03:37,898 --> 01:03:41,610
"I don't even remember nicking myself with
it cutting the deer meat or anything"?
717
01:03:41,652 --> 01:03:43,695
- Is that the answer you gave?
- Yes, sir.
718
01:03:43,779 --> 01:03:45,447
And is it the truth?
719
01:03:45,656 --> 01:03:48,784
At the time that he was
questioning me, I didn't...
720
01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:52,496
I mean, I might not
have remembered.
721
01:03:52,788 --> 01:03:57,543
But then later on in the day, I could have
remembered and talked to him about it then.
722
01:04:10,431 --> 01:04:11,974
You all right, buddy?
You did great.
723
01:04:12,975 --> 01:04:16,353
- (CHURCH BELLS TOLLING)
- JOHN: I wasn't expecting that.
724
01:04:17,521 --> 01:04:23,861
I ran and Jessie caught me.
Uh, he tied me up.
725
01:04:25,654 --> 01:04:27,364
How did they tie you up?
726
01:04:27,656 --> 01:04:28,866
Rope.
727
01:04:29,241 --> 01:04:34,496
Then he grabbed my hands
and made me cut Chris.
728
01:04:35,873 --> 01:04:41,462
Jessie and Damien picked him up and
put a bucket where he was bleeding.
729
01:04:43,046 --> 01:04:48,010
Then they poured it in a
glass and made me drink it.
730
01:04:51,889 --> 01:04:55,392
GITCHELL: They poured his blood
in a glass and made you drink it?
731
01:04:55,476 --> 01:04:56,727
Yes, sir.
732
01:04:56,810 --> 01:05:00,189
Aaron, you're not...
You're not making this up, are you?
733
01:05:00,314 --> 01:05:01,356
No.
734
01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:03,567
- I mean, you and I are buddies, right?
- Yeah.
735
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:06,570
We're buddies. You wouldn't be
telling me a story, would you?
736
01:05:06,653 --> 01:05:07,738
No.
737
01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:09,948
How do I know that you're
telling me the truth?
738
01:05:10,616 --> 01:05:13,118
I don't know.
739
01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:16,079
Good afternoon.
My name's Ron Lax.
740
01:05:16,163 --> 01:05:18,207
I'm an investigator working
with the attorneys
741
01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:21,752
who represent Damien
Echols and Jason Baldwin.
742
01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:29,092
Um, please, I can't talk to you.
Okay?
743
01:05:29,843 --> 01:05:31,803
I don't want to get involved.
744
01:05:33,222 --> 01:05:35,182
Mrs. Hutcheson, you're
already involved.
745
01:05:35,432 --> 01:05:38,018
You feature prominently in
the prosecution's case.
746
01:05:38,143 --> 01:05:39,686
And from what I can tell,
you're the only real link
747
01:05:39,770 --> 01:05:42,814
between Jessie Misskelley
and Damien Echols.
748
01:05:42,898 --> 01:05:46,860
No.
(CHUCKLES) No, I can't talk about it.
749
01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:50,697
You gotta ask Don.
750
01:05:50,948 --> 01:05:52,950
- Detective Donald Bray?
- Yes.
751
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:59,831
Yes, he... You just ask Don.
I gotta go now, I'm sorry.
752
01:06:00,624 --> 01:06:03,961
So why did Vicki Hutcheson come see you?
Was she in trouble?
753
01:06:04,795 --> 01:06:09,299
She, uh, looked to be part of a credit card
scam at a truck stop where she worked.
754
01:06:09,424 --> 01:06:10,509
So I called her in.
755
01:06:11,176 --> 01:06:15,138
She brought her kid in the day
after those boys went missing.
756
01:06:16,765 --> 01:06:22,145
I just wanted to let you
know that my boy, Aaron,
757
01:06:22,187 --> 01:06:24,314
is a close friend of
them missing boys.
758
01:06:24,606 --> 01:06:28,110
Michael Moore and Chris Byers
are his two best friends.
759
01:06:28,235 --> 01:06:31,738
You think you might know something
to help the police find them boys?
760
01:06:32,281 --> 01:06:37,160
I'd say it's very possible. Right, honey?
It is possible.
761
01:06:37,953 --> 01:06:41,456
We questioned Aaron. He told us
about the meetings in the woods.
762
01:06:41,623 --> 01:06:45,127
It made sense to me. I already
knew about the Satanic cult.
763
01:06:45,919 --> 01:06:47,546
You knew about the cult?
764
01:06:47,754 --> 01:06:52,009
We been expecting something like this to
happen around here for quite a while.
765
01:06:53,051 --> 01:06:54,886
How did you confirm
Aaron's story?
766
01:06:55,012 --> 01:06:56,388
Questioned Vicki.
767
01:06:56,763 --> 01:07:01,184
Asked her if there was anything she knew
about an occult or devil worshippers.
768
01:07:01,226 --> 01:07:02,853
She said no.
769
01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:06,523
But then she said, "How
about I go play detective"
770
01:07:07,107 --> 01:07:09,443
"to see what I can find out?"
771
01:07:09,735 --> 01:07:11,069
VICKI: Jessie!
772
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,951
You're a real sweetie to come over
here today and do this in this heat.
773
01:07:21,121 --> 01:07:22,706
It's all right.
774
01:07:27,044 --> 01:07:30,547
Do you know that
boy, Damien Echols?
775
01:07:31,298 --> 01:07:33,175
Yeah. He's kind of weird.
776
01:07:33,216 --> 01:07:34,217
Mmm.
777
01:07:36,678 --> 01:07:40,182
Well, I really want to meet him.
778
01:07:42,059 --> 01:07:44,394
Do you think you
could fix us up?
779
01:07:45,646 --> 01:07:47,606
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
780
01:07:48,065 --> 01:07:49,232
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
781
01:07:49,274 --> 01:07:50,984
JESSIE: Vicki!
782
01:07:55,864 --> 01:07:59,159
Vicki, this is Jason
Baldwin and Damien Echols.
783
01:08:00,577 --> 01:08:04,081
Come on in, boys.
Let's have a drink.
784
01:08:04,539 --> 01:08:08,043
Thanks, Jessie.
I'll see you around.
785
01:08:10,629 --> 01:08:14,883
I told Damien that I want to
learn more about Satanism.
786
01:08:14,966 --> 01:08:20,180
And, um, and he invited
me to an esbat.
787
01:08:21,807 --> 01:08:23,266
What the hell is that?
788
01:08:23,767 --> 01:08:27,437
I had to look it up. It's a...
It's a gathering of witches.
789
01:08:28,563 --> 01:08:32,109
It was in an open field,
under the full moon.
790
01:08:32,526 --> 01:08:36,363
Damien drove me there in his
car, it was a red Ford Escort.
791
01:08:37,239 --> 01:08:39,074
So me, Damien and Jessie...
792
01:08:40,909 --> 01:08:46,289
The people were dressed all in black,
and you couldn't see their faces.
793
01:08:46,331 --> 01:08:49,835
- And they started to undress each other.
- (CHANTING)
794
01:08:53,588 --> 01:08:56,466
And I asked Damien
to drive me home.
795
01:08:56,508 --> 01:08:58,802
I couldn't stay 'cause
I was so afraid.
796
01:08:58,885 --> 01:09:02,389
You were afraid.
Afraid for your life?
797
01:09:02,973 --> 01:09:04,725
Yes, sir.
798
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:08,562
(CHANTING)
799
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:28,832
LAX: I'm sorry but that
sounds like a load of crap.
800
01:09:29,541 --> 01:09:31,877
Damien's got no license.
He doesn't even drive.
801
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,796
None of his friends or family
have a red Ford Escort.
802
01:09:34,921 --> 01:09:37,299
I'm just telling you
what she told me.
803
01:09:37,591 --> 01:09:40,343
And the esbat seemed to fit
what Aaron had been telling us.
804
01:09:40,385 --> 01:09:44,514
About people painted black, chanting,
doing what men and women do.
805
01:09:44,681 --> 01:09:47,184
But did you ever find any
evidence to corroborate
806
01:09:47,267 --> 01:09:48,852
these tales Aaron
and Vicki told you?
807
01:09:48,894 --> 01:09:50,896
Or anything that would link
these murders to Damien?
808
01:09:51,021 --> 01:09:55,025
No physical evidence.
But we got something else.
809
01:09:55,108 --> 01:09:57,027
We got Jessie's confession.
810
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:00,447
So Vicki's plan failed, right?
811
01:10:00,530 --> 01:10:03,784
Damien gave her nothing. He never
said anything that implicated them.
812
01:10:03,867 --> 01:10:07,829
Yeah, but Vicki's plan got Jessie involved,
which led him right into the lion's den.
813
01:10:07,871 --> 01:10:09,748
They got their confession
from him instead.
814
01:10:09,831 --> 01:10:13,376
And Jason Baldwin gets caught in the
net just by picking the wrong friend.
815
01:10:13,418 --> 01:10:15,712
Ain't that what our mamas
always warned us about?
816
01:10:15,754 --> 01:10:17,547
Are they gonna put
Aaron on the stand?
817
01:10:17,631 --> 01:10:19,758
Hell no. Have you seen
those interview tapes?
818
01:10:19,841 --> 01:10:22,928
I mean, that kid's talking about
drinking from a bucket of blood.
819
01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:25,639
His story's turned out to be
nothing but pure fantasy.
820
01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:27,390
Ain't nothing but lies.
821
01:10:27,516 --> 01:10:30,560
No way they'll let the jury see how
absurd his confabulations are.
822
01:10:30,811 --> 01:10:32,813
So the jury's never gonna hear
823
01:10:32,896 --> 01:10:35,524
from this kid who's been the
catalyst for the entire case.
824
01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:37,025
Oh, but they did hear from him.
825
01:10:37,067 --> 01:10:40,278
Remember Gitchell's ridiculous
manipulations with the tape recorder?
826
01:10:40,362 --> 01:10:43,073
"Nobody knows what
happened but me."
827
01:10:46,785 --> 01:10:50,121
They have to use stunts like
that, what else they got?
828
01:10:50,205 --> 01:10:53,667
The State sent 600 items to the lab
and out of all that they got nothing
829
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:57,254
that directly links Damien, Jason
and Jessie to that crime scene.
830
01:10:58,088 --> 01:10:59,422
Look at this.
831
01:10:59,506 --> 01:11:01,341
Remember how Gitchell
told the press
832
01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:04,094
that the case number ending
in 666 was a coincidence?
833
01:11:04,761 --> 01:11:06,972
This police report was
signed by Detective Ridge
834
01:11:07,055 --> 01:11:11,059
three days after our case was assigned,
and the case number ends in 555.
835
01:11:11,685 --> 01:11:15,438
They actually changed our case
number to the number of the beast?
836
01:11:16,648 --> 01:11:18,441
This is a goddamn witch hunt.
837
01:11:18,608 --> 01:11:21,403
Our boys were never suspects in this case.
They were targets.
838
01:11:21,528 --> 01:11:23,864
And once they set their
sights on Jason and Damien,
839
01:11:23,947 --> 01:11:25,115
they stopped looking
for anybody else.
840
01:11:25,156 --> 01:11:27,993
But we don't have to.
We can keep looking.
841
01:11:28,076 --> 01:11:29,995
Ron, we tried to go
through everything,
842
01:11:30,078 --> 01:11:31,788
but they keep sending
us mountains of stuff.
843
01:11:31,913 --> 01:11:33,373
Whatever it takes.
844
01:11:35,041 --> 01:11:38,086
We may not be able to prove
our boys didn't do it.
845
01:11:38,128 --> 01:11:41,631
We might be able to prove the cops never
really tried to find out who did.
846
01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:53,476
AARON: I was there.
Don't you see?
847
01:11:53,977 --> 01:11:57,480
And nobody knows what
happened but me.
848
01:11:58,732 --> 01:12:01,484
DRIVER: About a year ago Damien told
me that the local devil worshippers
849
01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:06,239
had reached the end of their animal
sacrifice stage. So that summer he said
850
01:12:06,323 --> 01:12:08,617
they were gonna take
the next logical step.
851
01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:11,494
Sacrifice a human. A human.
852
01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:13,997
POLYGRAPH TECHNICIAN: At any time
Wednesday were you in Robin Hood Woods?
853
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,081
DAMIEN: No.
854
01:12:15,165 --> 01:12:17,334
Were you present when
those boys were killed?
855
01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:18,376
No.
856
01:12:18,460 --> 01:12:20,712
Do you suspect anyone of having
killed those three boys?
857
01:12:20,795 --> 01:12:21,796
No.
858
01:12:21,838 --> 01:12:23,340
Do you know who killed
those three boys?
859
01:12:23,381 --> 01:12:24,382
No.
860
01:12:24,466 --> 01:12:26,843
- Did you kill any of those three boys?
- No.
861
01:12:27,218 --> 01:12:30,180
GLORI: I know, but this
crime is unthinkable.
862
01:12:30,347 --> 01:12:33,558
What if they did it?
Have you thought of that?
863
01:12:49,115 --> 01:12:52,035
Do you want some dessert? I have
that chocolate pie you like.
864
01:12:52,369 --> 01:12:54,412
No thanks, Annie. I'm fine.
865
01:12:55,163 --> 01:12:57,624
You seemed upset when you
were in here the other day,
866
01:12:57,707 --> 01:13:01,211
having lunch with that lady.
She's really pretty.
867
01:13:03,088 --> 01:13:05,924
- She's my ex-wife.
- Oh.
868
01:13:06,841 --> 01:13:09,052
Not ex for too long, huh?
869
01:13:11,763 --> 01:13:15,266
So you okay lately?
I've been worried about you.
870
01:13:15,767 --> 01:13:17,560
Thanks, Annie, I'm fine.
871
01:13:19,396 --> 01:13:21,648
You know what I'm
doing on this case?
872
01:13:24,484 --> 01:13:25,485
Sure, I do.
873
01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:31,408
You understand why I
have to help them.
874
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:37,414
If you don't help those
poor boys, who will?
875
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:43,586
Nobody will. Nobody but you.
876
01:14:26,588 --> 01:14:28,465
Arise and be baptized.
877
01:14:34,596 --> 01:14:39,142
Washing away your sins.
Calling on the name of the Lord.
878
01:14:41,978 --> 01:14:45,482
God will never put more
on you than you can bear.
879
01:15:09,798 --> 01:15:13,843
GRIFFIS: Occult books talk about
the life force of the blood.
880
01:15:14,260 --> 01:15:18,348
Usually the younger the victim,
the more power or force it has.
881
01:15:18,473 --> 01:15:23,770
And do the type of injuries give
an occult overtone to the murders?
882
01:15:23,895 --> 01:15:28,525
Yes. In some occult rituals,
people are over-killed.
883
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:32,529
The body is repeatedly
killed over and over,
884
01:15:32,654 --> 01:15:35,240
with many cuts and blows.
885
01:15:35,532 --> 01:15:40,620
So would you say that this crime
has the trappings of occultism?
886
01:15:41,329 --> 01:15:43,790
Of Satanic worship,
in particular.
887
01:15:43,998 --> 01:15:47,752
Dr. Griffis, to get your PhD, what
classes were you required to take?
888
01:15:55,135 --> 01:15:56,803
Uh, none.
889
01:15:57,387 --> 01:16:01,724
And how were you accepted into enrollment
at Columbia Pacific University?
890
01:16:02,809 --> 01:16:07,147
I had to fill out, uh,
several series of papers.
891
01:16:09,566 --> 01:16:13,069
Did you have to fill out a
little flyer like this?
892
01:16:14,445 --> 01:16:17,782
"Call toll free for information
on how to become a doctor."
893
01:16:18,241 --> 01:16:20,076
This is a mail order
college, isn't it?
894
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,246
- University.
- They run a TV ad. Have you seen it?
895
01:16:23,329 --> 01:16:26,624
Yeah, you can send in a request
for what you want your degree in.
896
01:16:26,749 --> 01:16:29,377
Did you know this was a
correspondence school? I didn't.
897
01:16:29,419 --> 01:16:33,506
Judge, the witness has a mail order
PhD from a non-accredited school
898
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:36,926
that required no classes. We object to Dr.
Griffis as an expert.
899
01:16:37,218 --> 01:16:40,346
Well, I'm not sure within Arkansas
you need a degree of any kind
900
01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:42,891
to be considered an expert
in a particular field.
901
01:16:43,474 --> 01:16:47,937
And I'm not persuaded at all by your
argument about a mail order PhD.
902
01:16:48,313 --> 01:16:54,277
So I'm ruling him as qualified as
an expert in the area of occult.
903
01:17:06,789 --> 01:17:09,542
I'm looking for the manager, Marty King.
Is he here?
904
01:17:09,626 --> 01:17:11,586
He's in the back.
I'll fetch him.
905
01:17:17,717 --> 01:17:19,802
Looks like business
is pretty good.
906
01:17:19,969 --> 01:17:22,472
A whole lot better than it was now
that they've caught them Satanists
907
01:17:22,513 --> 01:17:23,973
who murdered them little boys.
908
01:17:25,016 --> 01:17:27,143
I'm the manager.
What can I do for you?
909
01:17:27,185 --> 01:17:29,145
My name is Ron Lax.
I'm an investigator,
910
01:17:29,187 --> 01:17:31,397
and I was wondering if I could
ask you a few questions
911
01:17:31,481 --> 01:17:32,774
about the night of May the 5th?
912
01:17:32,815 --> 01:17:36,152
Well, certainly, I'll be glad
to help out however I can.
913
01:17:37,237 --> 01:17:40,615
Hey, boss. Here's one I don't
remember seeing before.
914
01:17:40,657 --> 01:17:42,909
Who's Christopher Morgan?
915
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:46,621
Did you in any way participate in causing
the death of any of those three boys?
916
01:17:46,663 --> 01:17:47,997
No.
917
01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:51,167
Do you know for sure who
caused those boys to die?
918
01:17:51,251 --> 01:17:52,627
No.
919
01:17:52,669 --> 01:17:55,588
Are you holding back any information
about those three boys?
920
01:17:55,672 --> 01:17:56,798
No.
921
01:17:56,881 --> 01:17:58,883
The polygraph showed deception.
922
01:17:58,967 --> 01:18:02,011
He says you went off the chart.
923
01:18:02,845 --> 01:18:05,431
I don't know why I failed it.
Must have been nervous.
924
01:18:28,204 --> 01:18:30,206
This is so fucking screwed up!
925
01:18:30,248 --> 01:18:32,667
Chris, I have a legal obligation
to get to the truth...
926
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:36,045
- I'm telling you the truth.
- Or to exonerate you if you weren't involved.
927
01:18:36,129 --> 01:18:37,672
But based on the
polygraph results,
928
01:18:37,714 --> 01:18:39,215
I don't feel like you're
being completely honest.
929
01:18:39,299 --> 01:18:40,883
What do you want me to do?
Do you want me to lie to you?
930
01:18:40,925 --> 01:18:44,220
Okay, I'm gonna lie. I killed them.
And all the other bullshit.
931
01:18:44,595 --> 01:18:47,181
- Are you arresting me?
- No, I am not.
932
01:18:57,108 --> 01:18:59,569
MCDONOUGH ON TAPE: You
can't do things like that.
933
01:18:59,610 --> 01:19:01,612
CHRIS ON TAPE: Well,
maybe I freaked out,
934
01:19:01,863 --> 01:19:03,281
and blacked out,
935
01:19:03,364 --> 01:19:07,535
and killed the three little boys and
fucked 'em up the ass or something.
936
01:19:10,913 --> 01:19:14,417
- Is it possible you could have done it?
- No!
937
01:19:14,751 --> 01:19:18,838
I have never hurt
anyone intentionally.
938
01:19:19,422 --> 01:19:20,882
Maybe there's two sides to you.
939
01:19:23,885 --> 01:19:25,762
Maybe I'm Chris and Hyde.
940
01:19:28,598 --> 01:19:32,101
I'm Ron Lax. Come this way.
941
01:19:35,688 --> 01:19:37,440
Chris, what are you doing here?
942
01:19:41,444 --> 01:19:43,321
Chris!
943
01:19:45,114 --> 01:19:47,617
Your Honor, the defense
calls Christopher Morgan.
944
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,837
Your Honor, may we approach?
945
01:20:03,341 --> 01:20:04,550
(CLEARS THROAT)
946
01:20:07,845 --> 01:20:10,306
Your Honor, I think they are going
to try to cross-examine him
947
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:13,726
from the Oceanside police report,
and we submit that it's irrelevant.
948
01:20:13,810 --> 01:20:17,647
My understanding was that this
young man retracted his statement.
949
01:20:17,688 --> 01:20:20,942
We want to question Mr. Morgan to suggest
that the police case was far from certain.
950
01:20:20,983 --> 01:20:22,819
Why would his testimony
be relevant?
951
01:20:22,860 --> 01:20:26,489
FORD: Your Honor, we all want to question
witnesses that the police viewed as suspects
952
01:20:26,572 --> 01:20:28,408
before narrowing their
focus on the accused.
953
01:20:28,491 --> 01:20:31,953
I'm not gonna allow you to
drag in every possible suspect
954
01:20:31,994 --> 01:20:36,165
unless you've got something that tie those
persons to some event in this case.
955
01:20:36,249 --> 01:20:40,253
Judge Burnett, don't you think a
confession suffices as a tie-in?
956
01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:43,005
Your Honor, they could just talk to
anybody on the street and they could say,
957
01:20:43,089 --> 01:20:44,757
- "Do you admit doing these murders?"
- Come on!
958
01:20:44,841 --> 01:20:47,760
This is not just anybody off the street.
This was the Oceanside PD
959
01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:49,804
questioning him at the request
of the West Memphis PD.
960
01:20:49,846 --> 01:20:53,850
All right. All right. I'm gonna
begin the hearing. Anything else?
961
01:21:00,022 --> 01:21:04,527
Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to
need to conduct a hearing in camera so.
962
01:21:04,569 --> 01:21:06,529
- I'm gonna ask you...
- What?
963
01:21:06,571 --> 01:21:08,406
To go back to the jury room.
964
01:21:08,489 --> 01:21:10,032
JUDGE: Bailiff, will you
clear the courtroom, please?
965
01:21:10,116 --> 01:21:11,117
FORD: Your Honor...
966
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,744
All right, folks. All spectators,
members of the press,
967
01:21:13,828 --> 01:21:15,872
please leave the courtroom.
968
01:21:19,292 --> 01:21:22,545
You, too, Mr. Lax. I don't believe
you're an officer of the court.
969
01:21:22,628 --> 01:21:25,256
Mr. Morgan, please step
forward to be sworn in.
970
01:21:25,339 --> 01:21:27,258
PAM: Why are they
questioning Chris Morgan?
971
01:21:27,675 --> 01:21:30,011
And why aren't we allowed
to hear what he says?
972
01:21:30,052 --> 01:21:33,681
Bobby DeAngelo asked for a picture of my
son and brought Chris Morgan into my home.
973
01:21:33,723 --> 01:21:35,391
I have a right to
hear what he says.
974
01:21:35,475 --> 01:21:38,060
Yes, you do, Mrs. Hobbs.
We all do.
975
01:21:45,401 --> 01:21:50,198
FORD: On May 17th, 1993, were you
questioned in Oceanside, California...
976
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,783
CHRIS: Yes. FORD: And in a
videotaped statement...
977
01:21:58,748 --> 01:22:02,293
WOMAN: We are going to be all right.
Justice is gonna be served, and we love you,
978
01:22:02,376 --> 01:22:06,297
and we are just thinking of you and
just praying for you constantly, okay?
979
01:22:07,048 --> 01:22:09,258
(WOMAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
980
01:22:13,387 --> 01:22:15,431
So you said it just to get out?
981
01:22:16,307 --> 01:22:18,893
Yeah, after 17 hours I
believe anybody would.
982
01:22:18,935 --> 01:22:21,604
Now, before you made the
statements in question,
983
01:22:21,646 --> 01:22:24,732
did you tell the officers
in a state of anger that.
984
01:22:24,774 --> 01:22:28,903
"If you want me to lie to you, I'll lie
to you and tell you that I did it"?
985
01:22:28,945 --> 01:22:30,613
- Yes.
- Uh-huh.
986
01:22:30,696 --> 01:22:34,200
And immediately after that, did
you again deny any knowledge
987
01:22:34,283 --> 01:22:38,246
- of involvement in these murders?
- Yes.
988
01:22:40,706 --> 01:22:42,083
All right. Anything else?
989
01:22:42,124 --> 01:22:45,294
Jessie Misskelley denied that he did it,
admitted he did it, then denied it again
990
01:22:45,336 --> 01:22:48,464
and he's in prison!
This man did the same thing.
991
01:22:49,257 --> 01:22:52,426
And we are asking you to allow us
to present this testimony to the...
992
01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:53,678
No.
993
01:22:53,761 --> 01:22:56,222
We are entitled to raise
reasonable doubt.
994
01:22:56,305 --> 01:22:57,807
That's what we're trying
to do with this testimony.
995
01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:59,809
Raise it or create it?
996
01:23:00,226 --> 01:23:01,894
FORD: Both!
997
01:23:07,233 --> 01:23:08,317
FORD: Burnett wouldn't
let him testify.
998
01:23:08,401 --> 01:23:09,944
GLORI: It was so important
to get that kid on the stand
999
01:23:09,986 --> 01:23:11,821
- to show how arbitrary it's been.
- I know.
1000
01:23:11,862 --> 01:23:13,406
But the judge says
that's not relevant
1001
01:23:13,489 --> 01:23:15,408
because Morgan told the
cops he was gonna lie.
1002
01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:18,286
Besides, Fogleman says
there's no tape for the part
1003
01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:21,831
- of the interview where Morgan confesses.
- What? No, that's bullshit.
1004
01:23:22,456 --> 01:23:25,501
You can't see part of the tape because
Morgan put a tissue across the lens.
1005
01:23:25,585 --> 01:23:27,962
I saw it. I watched
the whole thing.
1006
01:23:28,212 --> 01:23:29,755
But you can see it
when he confesses.
1007
01:23:29,839 --> 01:23:31,132
PRICE: Yeah, but
Fogleman said...
1008
01:23:31,173 --> 01:23:36,012
The audio's there for all of it, even when
the lens is covered. You tell them that?
1009
01:23:37,471 --> 01:23:39,599
You guys even watch the
entire six hours of tape?
1010
01:23:43,686 --> 01:23:46,522
- We have a synopsis from the Oceanside PD.
- A synopsis?
1011
01:23:47,148 --> 01:23:48,691
Since when do we depend
on police reports?
1012
01:23:48,774 --> 01:23:51,027
Ron, we did not have
enough time or money.
1013
01:23:51,068 --> 01:23:52,445
But you should have
told Burnett...
1014
01:23:52,528 --> 01:23:54,155
I should have told him what?
1015
01:23:56,407 --> 01:24:00,244
Now, you want to try these cases, Ron?
Maybe you should have gone to law school.
1016
01:24:00,953 --> 01:24:04,457
You let us do our job and
you focus on doing yours.
1017
01:24:09,754 --> 01:24:13,549
I'm... I'm sorry, Ron. But we...
1018
01:24:15,092 --> 01:24:16,844
We are overwhelmed.
1019
01:24:17,386 --> 01:24:19,889
Fogleman is burying
us in materials.
1020
01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:23,893
13,000 documents from the
police investigation alone.
1021
01:24:23,976 --> 01:24:26,896
We don't have enough time. We don't
have enough manpower. Money.
1022
01:24:26,979 --> 01:24:31,567
And frankly? Burnett?
He's just not giving us a chance.
1023
01:24:39,241 --> 01:24:44,205
PAM: That's all right, you
That's all right, Mama.
1024
01:24:44,288 --> 01:24:46,999
Just anyway you do.
1025
01:24:47,083 --> 01:24:51,962
That's all right
That's all right.
1026
01:24:53,422 --> 01:24:57,259
Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right with you.
1027
01:24:57,301 --> 01:25:00,137
Anyway you do.
1028
01:25:00,221 --> 01:25:03,724
Anyway you do That's all right.
1029
01:25:56,527 --> 01:26:00,364
MAN ON TV: And what a challenge
that was to persevere...
1030
01:27:03,928 --> 01:27:06,764
Jason, the prosecutor's office
wants to offer you a deal.
1031
01:27:07,515 --> 01:27:09,809
If you agree to testify
against Damien,
1032
01:27:09,892 --> 01:27:13,854
they'll only seek a sentence of 20 years.
Not death.
1033
01:27:15,105 --> 01:27:17,733
Now, you could be out in
10 years, maybe less.
1034
01:27:18,734 --> 01:27:20,736
That's still a
long time, though.
1035
01:27:21,821 --> 01:27:25,032
In 10 years you'll be what?
26 years old?
1036
01:27:25,241 --> 01:27:27,868
You'll have your whole
life ahead of you.
1037
01:27:30,204 --> 01:27:32,748
The case against you is weak.
1038
01:27:32,832 --> 01:27:36,252
But they're going to do everything they
can to tie you to Damien and his beliefs,
1039
01:27:36,335 --> 01:27:38,170
the things he said and done.
1040
01:27:38,295 --> 01:27:40,840
And despite the lack of
evidence, it is very possible
1041
01:27:41,006 --> 01:27:45,344
that Damien will go down for this.
And if he does,
1042
01:27:45,427 --> 01:27:48,931
there's a good chance he's
gonna drag you down with him.
1043
01:27:53,143 --> 01:27:57,064
I can't do it. I can't tell a
lie about him. It ain't right.
1044
01:28:00,776 --> 01:28:02,361
I can't.
1045
01:28:02,528 --> 01:28:04,905
When you were at the
softball field,
1046
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:08,325
did you hear somebody say
something about the murders?
1047
01:28:08,409 --> 01:28:14,123
Yes, sir. I heard, um, Damien Echols
say that he killed the three boys.
1048
01:28:15,583 --> 01:28:19,086
GIRL: I heard Damien Echols say he
killed all three of those little boys.
1049
01:28:19,545 --> 01:28:24,133
And before he turned himself in,
he was gonna kill two more.
1050
01:28:24,592 --> 01:28:28,095
And he already had one
of them picked out.
1051
01:28:30,139 --> 01:28:33,267
Is the person who made that statement
present in this courtroom?
1052
01:28:33,309 --> 01:28:34,476
Yes, sir.
1053
01:28:34,518 --> 01:28:35,895
Would you point that
person out for the jury?
1054
01:28:35,978 --> 01:28:37,688
Right there.
1055
01:28:37,897 --> 01:28:41,942
May the record reflect that the
witness has identified Damien Echols.
1056
01:28:42,484 --> 01:28:47,323
If anybody else is in this courtroom, who
was present when that statement was made,
1057
01:28:47,364 --> 01:28:50,618
would you point that
person out for the jury?
1058
01:28:53,329 --> 01:28:55,331
Your Honor, may the
record reflect
1059
01:28:55,372 --> 01:28:58,417
the witness has identified
the other defendant,
1060
01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:00,711
Jason Baldwin.
1061
01:29:20,397 --> 01:29:23,901
KING: Sir, are you all right?
1062
01:29:26,695 --> 01:29:29,073
After that I called the police.
1063
01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:36,455
And by the time Officer Meek came to the
drive-through, the man was already gone.
1064
01:29:36,705 --> 01:29:43,504
And the next day, uh, after the
bodies were found, and, uh,
1065
01:29:44,088 --> 01:29:47,508
Detective Ridge and Allen
came over and took a report.
1066
01:29:48,050 --> 01:29:51,053
They came over straight
from the crime scene,
1067
01:29:51,136 --> 01:29:54,390
and one of them
asked me, he said,
1068
01:29:54,473 --> 01:29:58,227
"Did the black man appear
to have muddy feet?"
1069
01:29:58,644 --> 01:30:03,565
"Like me, because we've been out there
all morning long in the water and mud."
1070
01:30:05,651 --> 01:30:09,530
PRICE: Okay. And when you looked
at him, what did you say?
1071
01:30:10,072 --> 01:30:13,575
Um, I said, "Yes, sir."
1072
01:30:13,951 --> 01:30:19,707
'Cause his pants and shoes were
muddy and wet up to the knees.
1073
01:30:20,207 --> 01:30:21,750
"Just like you."
1074
01:30:22,710 --> 01:30:26,588
PRICE: Detective Ridge,
on May 6th, 1993,
1075
01:30:26,630 --> 01:30:28,424
you went to the
Bojangles Restaurant.
1076
01:30:28,507 --> 01:30:32,136
Did you take blood scrapings from
inside the women's restroom?
1077
01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:36,598
Yes, sir. I found trace remains in the
ladies' bathroom of the Bojangles.
1078
01:30:38,058 --> 01:30:43,355
PRICE: Detective, what is the date you sent the
scrapings to the crime lab to be analyzed?
1079
01:30:45,107 --> 01:30:46,859
They were never sent.
1080
01:30:47,026 --> 01:30:51,238
All right. Where are the samples
at this time, Detective?
1081
01:30:51,613 --> 01:30:56,285
I don't know, sir.
They were lost.
1082
01:30:56,618 --> 01:30:59,288
PAM: What? PRICE: You
mean blood evidence
1083
01:30:59,788 --> 01:31:05,169
that you took for the purpose of
sending to the crime lab is just lost?
1084
01:31:06,462 --> 01:31:08,255
Yes, sir.
1085
01:31:10,299 --> 01:31:12,968
That's my mistake. I lost
a piece of evidence.
1086
01:31:26,106 --> 01:31:31,153
Now, Damien, this book on
witchcraft, where did you get that?
1087
01:31:31,195 --> 01:31:34,782
The library had these books they were
getting rid of for 10 cents each.
1088
01:31:35,074 --> 01:31:38,285
Damien, there's some pages in
there that are underlined in red,
1089
01:31:38,327 --> 01:31:39,870
references to the devil.
1090
01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:41,997
That was already
done when I got it.
1091
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,084
I think somebody had a report to
do 'cause all through the book
1092
01:31:45,167 --> 01:31:49,004
there's like little notes, dates,
and stuff like that in the margin.
1093
01:31:49,463 --> 01:31:51,507
Okay.
1094
01:31:55,344 --> 01:31:58,847
Damien, why do you
like to wear black?
1095
01:31:59,681 --> 01:32:02,184
I was told I look good in it.
1096
01:32:02,851 --> 01:32:05,521
And it helped me
deal with people.
1097
01:32:07,356 --> 01:32:11,777
It would make them think "He's
weird." And it kept them away.
1098
01:32:16,532 --> 01:32:20,577
You've looked into the Satanic
side of the occult, correct?
1099
01:32:21,203 --> 01:32:25,332
- I'm familiar with it.
- You familiar with Aleister Crowley?
1100
01:32:25,582 --> 01:32:30,546
Based on his writings, he believes
in human sacrifice, doesn't he?
1101
01:32:30,587 --> 01:32:33,382
He also believed
he was God, so...
1102
01:32:33,465 --> 01:32:38,971
His writings indicated that children
were the best type of human sacrifice.
1103
01:32:40,055 --> 01:32:42,724
- Correct?
- Yes, sir.
1104
01:32:42,891 --> 01:32:46,478
But Crowley has no particular
significance to you?
1105
01:32:47,187 --> 01:32:51,859
I know who he is. I've read about him,
but I've never read anything by him.
1106
01:32:54,027 --> 01:32:55,737
Do you recognize this?
1107
01:33:02,536 --> 01:33:04,079
What is that?
1108
01:33:06,331 --> 01:33:09,543
It's a paper I had on
different alphabets.
1109
01:33:10,169 --> 01:33:12,504
Where you could write
things nobody could read.
1110
01:33:12,588 --> 01:33:14,923
Whose names are written on it?
1111
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:17,759
Mine. Jason's.
1112
01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:22,139
Our newborn son's, and one
that says Aleister Crowley.
1113
01:33:22,472 --> 01:33:23,849
(CROWD GASPS)
1114
01:33:24,099 --> 01:33:28,270
So the only other name on
this document besides yours,
1115
01:33:28,395 --> 01:33:33,192
your best friend and your
son is Aleister Crowley.
1116
01:33:37,070 --> 01:33:38,363
If you say so.
1117
01:33:41,658 --> 01:33:44,786
Now, when he interviewed you before
your arrest, did you tell Officer Ridge
1118
01:33:44,828 --> 01:33:47,664
that you'd been a member of a
white witch group for five years?
1119
01:33:47,748 --> 01:33:50,250
I told him I was a Wiccan.
I've never been a member of a group.
1120
01:33:50,292 --> 01:33:52,461
- Oh, he made that up?
- Yes.
1121
01:33:52,544 --> 01:33:56,590
Officer Ridge also asked you why
would someone kill these kids
1122
01:33:56,632 --> 01:34:01,345
and your response was that the person was
sick or a Satanist. Is that correct?
1123
01:34:01,845 --> 01:34:07,184
He asked me was it possible if they could
be Satanists, and I said "Yeah, I guess."
1124
01:34:07,267 --> 01:34:12,648
When Officer Ridge asked you how do you
think the person feels who did this,
1125
01:34:13,482 --> 01:34:18,320
your answer was, "Probably
makes them feel good."
1126
01:34:18,987 --> 01:34:21,114
"Gives them power."
1127
01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:25,702
Is that correct? Or, I guess,
Officer Ridge made that up, too.
1128
01:34:25,786 --> 01:34:28,330
No. I used common sense on that.
1129
01:34:28,413 --> 01:34:31,166
If someone was doing it,
they must have wanted to.
1130
01:34:31,208 --> 01:34:35,462
And if they were doing something they
wanted to it must make them happy.
1131
01:34:35,504 --> 01:34:39,841
So in your mind it
is common sense
1132
01:34:39,883 --> 01:34:43,553
that killing three eight-year-olds
would make you feel good?
1133
01:34:45,305 --> 01:34:47,349
Whoever did it must have.
1134
01:34:47,683 --> 01:34:49,559
(SPECTATORS MURMURING)
1135
01:34:52,521 --> 01:34:56,858
Is there anything wrong with
wearing black in and of itself?
1136
01:34:57,150 --> 01:34:58,610
No.
1137
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:04,116
Anything wrong with this heavy
metal stuff in and of itself?
1138
01:35:04,283 --> 01:35:05,867
No.
1139
01:35:06,535 --> 01:35:10,247
The Book of Shadows.
Anything wrong with that?
1140
01:35:10,789 --> 01:35:12,082
No.
1141
01:35:12,916 --> 01:35:16,420
But you don't look at these
things individually.
1142
01:35:16,962 --> 01:35:19,715
You have to look at
them as a whole.
1143
01:35:20,215 --> 01:35:24,886
And when you look at all this
circumstantial evidence as a whole,
1144
01:35:24,970 --> 01:35:28,473
it proves that these defendants
committed this murder.
1145
01:35:30,517 --> 01:35:36,356
Now, all this Satanic stuff?
It doesn't matter whether I believe it.
1146
01:35:36,940 --> 01:35:40,652
It doesn't matter whether the
defense attorneys believe it.
1147
01:35:41,278 --> 01:35:45,449
It doesn't even matter
whether you believe in it.
1148
01:35:46,325 --> 01:35:51,163
The only thing that matters is
what these defendants believe.
1149
01:35:52,164 --> 01:35:55,459
Now, you look at history,
1150
01:35:55,625 --> 01:35:59,379
at all the people that have been
killed in the name of religion,
1151
01:35:59,463 --> 01:36:02,049
it is a motivating force.
1152
01:36:02,466 --> 01:36:07,721
It gives people who want to do evil
the justification for what they do.
1153
01:36:09,139 --> 01:36:12,559
And when you look
at it all together,
1154
01:36:12,601 --> 01:36:16,104
you begin to see
inside Damien Echols.
1155
01:36:17,898 --> 01:36:22,778
You see inside that person.
You look inside,
1156
01:36:25,655 --> 01:36:27,991
and there's not a soul in there.
1157
01:36:49,262 --> 01:36:51,556
The first verdict
reads as follows.
1158
01:36:53,517 --> 01:36:55,852
"We, the jury,
find Damien Echols
1159
01:36:55,977 --> 01:36:57,187
"guilty of capital murder
1160
01:36:57,270 --> 01:37:00,232
- "in the death of Stevie Branch."
- (CROWD GASPING)
1161
01:37:03,276 --> 01:37:06,113
"We, the jury, find
Damien Echols"
1162
01:37:06,154 --> 01:37:09,908
"guilty of capital murder in
the death of Chris Byers."
1163
01:37:13,662 --> 01:37:15,414
"We, the jury, find
Damien Echols"
1164
01:37:15,497 --> 01:37:18,500
"guilty of capital murder in
the death of Michael Moore."
1165
01:37:18,667 --> 01:37:21,294
No! No! No!
1166
01:37:27,008 --> 01:37:29,010
"We, the jury, find
Jason Baldwin"
1167
01:37:29,094 --> 01:37:32,848
"guilty of capital murder in
the death of Stevie Branch."
1168
01:37:33,348 --> 01:37:35,809
"We, the jury, find
Jason Baldwin"
1169
01:37:35,976 --> 01:37:39,229
"guilty of capital murder in
the death of Chris Byers."
1170
01:37:39,354 --> 01:37:41,773
"And we, the jury,
find Jason Baldwin"
1171
01:37:41,857 --> 01:37:45,360
"guilty of capital murder in
the death of Michael Moore."
1172
01:37:51,867 --> 01:37:55,370
Now, do either of you have any
legal reason to give the court
1173
01:37:55,412 --> 01:37:58,248
as to why a sentence
should not be imposed?
1174
01:37:59,875 --> 01:38:01,501
No, sir.
1175
01:38:02,961 --> 01:38:04,713
'Cause I'm innocent.
1176
01:38:05,380 --> 01:38:07,424
Pardon, I'm sorry, I
didn't hear that.
1177
01:38:07,716 --> 01:38:09,801
Because I'm innocent.
1178
01:38:11,803 --> 01:38:14,890
Well, the jury has heard the
evidence and concluded otherwise.
1179
01:38:15,724 --> 01:38:21,897
Mr. Baldwin, you are hereby adjudicated
guilty on three counts of capital murder.
1180
01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:26,401
You are hereby sentenced to the
Arkansas Department of Corrections
1181
01:38:26,568 --> 01:38:30,530
to a term of life without
the possibility of parole.
1182
01:38:32,449 --> 01:38:36,536
Mr. Echols, you have been
adjudicated guilty on three counts
1183
01:38:36,578 --> 01:38:38,914
of capital murder as well,
1184
01:38:39,247 --> 01:38:43,877
the death of Michael Moore,
Chris Byers and Stevie Branch.
1185
01:38:45,170 --> 01:38:47,923
You are remanded to the
custody of the Sheriff
1186
01:38:47,964 --> 01:38:51,176
and to immediately be transported to
the Arkansas Department of Corrections
1187
01:38:51,259 --> 01:38:56,056
where on the 5th of May, 1994,
1188
01:38:57,098 --> 01:38:58,558
a lethal quantity
1189
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:00,727
- of an ultra short-acting barbiturate.
- (CROWD GASPING)
1190
01:39:00,769 --> 01:39:04,773
in combination with a
chemical paralytic agent,
1191
01:39:04,940 --> 01:39:08,568
will be injected into your
body until you are dead.
1192
01:39:17,619 --> 01:39:19,412
(CAMERAS CLICKING)
1193
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,669
(CROWD CLAMORING)
1194
01:40:20,849 --> 01:40:22,183
Mrs. Hobbs.
1195
01:40:23,393 --> 01:40:24,894
I'm Ron Lax.
1196
01:40:25,562 --> 01:40:27,188
I know who you are.
1197
01:40:37,324 --> 01:40:42,287
And I don't hate you either. Or them
lawyers. Just don't forget about us.
1198
01:40:42,662 --> 01:40:46,750
- Don't... Don't let yourself forget about us.
- I won't.
1199
01:40:48,043 --> 01:40:49,377
I can't.
1200
01:40:51,671 --> 01:40:56,051
Ever since I saw your face
on TV that first day,
1201
01:40:56,134 --> 01:40:58,428
I read the case files,
1202
01:41:02,474 --> 01:41:05,018
saw the photographs of your son.
1203
01:41:07,771 --> 01:41:10,065
I'll never be able
to forget any of it.
1204
01:41:13,902 --> 01:41:18,448
And I know that you may not be able
to feel much compassion right now
1205
01:41:18,531 --> 01:41:22,410
for the boys accused of this crime.
I understand that, I really do.
1206
01:41:24,746 --> 01:41:28,958
But if these boys are innocent,
1207
01:41:29,042 --> 01:41:32,379
would you want three more families
to lose their children, too?
1208
01:41:34,881 --> 01:41:39,260
I found this in Terry's things.
1209
01:41:42,222 --> 01:41:44,432
It's Stevie's pocket knife.
1210
01:41:46,101 --> 01:41:48,019
His Grandpa Hicks gave him.
1211
01:41:48,311 --> 01:41:51,815
- Your father?
- Yeah, my father.
1212
01:41:52,273 --> 01:41:54,109
Stevie loved this knife.
1213
01:41:54,609 --> 01:41:58,279
Just like his new bike.
Everything his grandpa ever gave him.
1214
01:42:01,658 --> 01:42:05,161
He'd take it with him everywhere.
He always had it.
1215
01:42:06,913 --> 01:42:10,667
- I think he would have had it that day.
- The day he was killed?
1216
01:42:11,459 --> 01:42:14,003
I don't know why they
didn't find it on him.
1217
01:42:15,255 --> 01:42:18,133
And I don't know why my
husband would have it now.
1218
01:42:18,717 --> 01:42:21,761
You suspect your husband might have
something do to with all of this?
1219
01:42:21,845 --> 01:42:25,890
I don't know. I don't know.
1220
01:42:28,643 --> 01:42:31,646
I don't know anything anymore.
1221
01:42:32,522 --> 01:42:36,818
After hearing
Jessie's confession,
1222
01:42:36,860 --> 01:42:41,489
and all those things
he didn't know
1223
01:42:41,531 --> 01:42:45,577
and the bloody man at Bojangles,
1224
01:42:45,660 --> 01:42:48,496
and Mark Byers and
that bloody knife.
1225
01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:51,166
And those girls up on the stand,
1226
01:42:51,249 --> 01:42:54,377
acting like this is all just
some sort of game to them.
1227
01:42:56,004 --> 01:43:00,550
And what about Chris Morgan? They told
me that he confessed out in California,
1228
01:43:00,633 --> 01:43:04,137
and they wouldn't even let us hear
what he had to say on the stand.
1229
01:43:05,263 --> 01:43:10,769
It seems like everybody, the
police, the judge, everybody,
1230
01:43:10,852 --> 01:43:14,355
they all know who they
want to think did this.
1231
01:43:16,858 --> 01:43:18,651
I don't know anymore.
1232
01:43:21,404 --> 01:43:22,822
Neither do I.
1233
01:43:27,535 --> 01:43:32,791
But I know in my heart that Damien,
Jason and Jessie did not do this.
1234
01:44:03,238 --> 01:44:08,701
STEVIE: Well that's all right,
Mama That's all right for you.
1235
01:44:08,743 --> 01:44:13,581
That's all right, Mama
Just any way you do.
1236
01:44:13,748 --> 01:44:14,749
That's all right.
1237
01:44:35,103 --> 01:44:39,816
Is that too tight?
You'll be back soon.
1238
01:44:39,941 --> 01:44:43,444
Real soon, sweetheart.
I promise.
1239
01:44:43,544 --> 01:44:48,544