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If you don't - repeat--
if you don't want to submit to yourself

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and / or your lover
who is being harassed like that,

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then please leave the place
now!

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Thank you very much.

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Now ?!
Right.

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They look like women,
they play like men,

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and they are the biggest collection of hell-keepers
to get out of America!

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This is Twisted Sister!

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♪ Good evening!
♪

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♪ Welcome to our event!
♪

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♪ If you have that problem,
yes ♪

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♪ All right I think so
You must know ♪

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♪ I want to tell you something ♪

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♪ I am someone you can trust ♪

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♪ You better take good ones
look hard ♪

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♪ Because there are diamonds
in this dust ♪

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♪ Hit it!
We are not an overnight sensation ♪

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♪ There's no Cinderella fantasy ♪

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♪ Please do not have compliments or applause ♪

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♪ I've heard it before
You see... ♪

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In the summer of '72

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I was determined enough that the drug scene

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that I have become part of
a New York City

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hippie child  is pretty much over.

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And during that summer I succeeded
subscribe to "Fusion Magazine"

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and by subscribing to it
comes a Lou Reed album,

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a David Bowie album,
and Mott the Hoople album.

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And the cover of "Fusion"
David Bowie is in it.

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And I go whoa!
Whoa!
What is this?!

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This is not a Grateful Dead.

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This is something
is completely different.

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And I change gears 180 degrees.

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Then when The Dolls starts
playing at Mercer Arts Center,

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That is a new world for me.

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Bowie is there,
and Lou Reed is there.

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And here it is
glam glitter is kinda thing.

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You know I'm strangely
connected to it,

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unless I am a musician

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and these bands
It's not music for me.

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Actually they are very bad.

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I mean they are terrible.

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They look great.
Man, The Dolls look amazing.

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I will go home and go,

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"The band, if they can play,
they will make a lot of money.

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But they suck."

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And I thought, "Wow, if possible
a band like that, but be good!"

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I started to get rid of taste,

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You know, what I want
to be in a glitter band.

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And I received this call
from a man

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which sounds a bit
like Rocky Balboa.

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And he is like,
"Hey, how are you?

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My name is Mel,
You are a Glittah?"

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"You are a Glittah?" -
I've never heard that phrase,

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"Youse inta Glittah."
Like you

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Yes, I became glitter.

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"Bowie, Lou Reed,
Mott the Hoople, yeah, yeah."

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"We have to unite,

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and we will be like
dress like women."

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I say, "Really?"

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I said,
"Are there many groups?"

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He said, "Oh yes,
you will lie a lot."

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And when he comes to my house,

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You know, the doorbell rings
and I look out

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And here it is
African-Americans there.

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And I go, "Sorry, who are you?"

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And he said, "This is Mel."
And I went, "Oh, okay, whatever.

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We got into the car and drove
for the first training in New Jersey.

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basically it's yours

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The band has
sort of template

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There is Michael
singer,

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and Billy the guitar player

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who form themselves
like Mick and Keith.

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Mel more
jazz influenced drummer,

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I think, but a good drummer.

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Kenny on bass
is this great musician

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which seems a little out of place
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but sensational musicians.

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So I think this is a good band.

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And we will
be like looking really great--

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like, we will look like The Dolls,

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but we will sound much better,
and we will get a recording contract.

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Hello, Stu?
You will panic

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You must see this action.

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The New York Dolls have no
in these people

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One of the first questions
they ask me if you will be,

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um, fight like wearing anything
makeup or something.

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And I thought yes,
okay I can do that

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I have never
Now it's a different thing

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than I used to play.

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They are playing
like David Bowie--

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like David who ?!

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It's like, a little weird.
I don't say anything,

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Because I want to be
like a team player

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So I'm not so sure
if I like it,

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but when we play
some songs,

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Like the energy that is there.

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And one thing that is certain is,

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I don't want to get
real work anymore

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In the 70s,
in New York,

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the world capital
that has been abandoned

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by adults at that time

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and left to anyone who owns it
balls to stay there.

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In the right city you have rap,

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who you are
know born and develop

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and punk grow out
from the city center

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And once you go
over the bridge

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or through
a tunnel and leave the city...

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You are in America,
Basically,

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and that is
a different world

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The beauty of that era
is that there really is...

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nothing to do
as far as nightlife,

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except to go to the
cinema or go see a live band.

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And usually more
happens with a live band.

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And that's good

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because everyone just
comes out in droves.

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The current scene, mid 70s
or more, in the Tri-State area

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originally started
like in Westchester County

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and some parts of Long Island,

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and it only grows
and grows and grows.

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What I understand,

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it's the only place
in the country

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it has this kind of
intense club area

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And it seems there are still
To this day the band is Top 40,

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uh, club owners
are looking for

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the band that plays hits
today

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We are playing Led Zeppelin,

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we are playing The Who,
we play Jethro Tull,

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we are very famous
for that.

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And all that is done right.

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It's all done until tobacco

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Everyone wants to see,
oh, can they do AC / DC?

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Could they do Led Zeppelin?

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How good are they doing this?

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Nobody wants
to hear original music

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And no one plays original music
at that time.

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And look,
Once you enter the circuit,

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and you swim in that stream,

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You know, suddenly everything is open, and that's it.

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First show
on Satellite

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Certainly something
is different.

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It's like a very big place,

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and that's true
_ near the Fort Dix Army base

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and then right across the street
from McGuire Air Force Base.

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So you like the Air Force
and Army

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and all these people come here

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Our makeup
Doing it is very feminine.

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And I remember
being like really nervous

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Because I think well of them
We will see us

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and they will
start throwing things

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But there isn't anyone
in this room

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It is a giant bowling alley
which holds 3,000 people.

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Maybe there are
20 people per night

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Tuesday night, no.

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Wednesday night, no.
Thursday night, no.

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We feel rather comfortable
into the groove,

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Maybe no one will show it
and we will learn the song

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Because we barely know enough
songs to get past three sets.

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We have to play five.
Come on weekend, bro!

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There are 3,000 G.I.s--
God!

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I am sick,
It hurts physically to my stomach.

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Looking out,
see these 3,000 people,

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see myself dressed
with a dog collar,

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think, "Oh, I'll just be killed

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"This is where I will die.

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Come here, dress up
In drag, I will be killed."

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But for any reason,

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soldiers there
drunk and want entertainment!

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About 16 years
I come to the crossroads

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where as an unpopular child

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who doesn't have many friends
or doesn't match

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with every click or
Things like that,

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I, um, arrived at a point where I was really aware  that I faded a little.

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I fade
into the background,

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and I become nonentity.

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And I remember literally
Trembling and saying,

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That, you know, I won't go
silent at night!

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And I'm an outcast like this
but I don't really care

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I just became my own person.

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I always sing in the band.
And I started to excel.

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So my band started to become
popular bands in school.

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Harlequin is mine
post high school--

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My first band started playing
in a little club

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But somewhere along the way,

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I was offered the opportunity
to join a band bar that works,

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which is hardly
the Harlequin band is

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They are called Merak.

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But it will happen
give me a chance

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to really make a living

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And I think
I will really hone my skills.

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So I left a much better band
to join a weaker band.

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People can't forget it
as we see it.

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Actually there aren't anyone else
out there on the scene

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it's doing anything
like what we do

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We will kiss it
in the Bowie medley.

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And that will happen
outrageous, but cool.

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And the chicks will dig it,
and we will lay a lot.

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We got this dog collar -

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quite severe, you know,
like this is high, and buttons.

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And we have a chain and we will do it
Chain with each other together.

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One thing we must be careful about
though is to make sure

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the amplifier
is grounded correctly

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If not, you will get it
a surprise.

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We have very cheap trucks.

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And we can
to make $ 150 a night,

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six nights a week
play in one club

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You really can make money.

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I mean,
without sounding like my father,

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gas is, you know,
29 cents per gallon

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and a hotel for $ 39 a night,

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and truck rentals
like 50 bucks a week

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I mean you can
actually function

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We get a band performance at home
Mad Hatter in the Hamptons,

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which is this big nightclub
on Long Island.

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For summer '73, 15 weeks
in a row, stay above the club.

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We are 20

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What do you think?

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I mean it's ridiculous.
That is fun.

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That's crazy.
There are women everywhere.

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The place will be truly
packed shoulder to shoulder.

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People go crazy.

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The only problem is Michael
will get drunk because the night will continue,

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and we only play less music
Michael will start, like, drool.

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That, like, well
I shouldn't say funny,

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but when you
look on stage

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and you don't see
the front man up there

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and you wonder - and one of you
your guard or bartender

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tells you,
"Bob, he's here..."

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And I, "Where?"

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He fell off the stage.
He is on the side of the stage.

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I mean, what kind of thing, you know.

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But the whole band is drunk.

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Mel fell
in the drum chair one night.

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I remember he drank something
like nine Rusty Nails.

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He collapsed.
Billy fell.

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Kenny is drunk all the time.

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I am surrounded by alcoholics,
and I don't drink.

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But we made music

246
00:12:16,493 --> 00:12:18,260
and we are clear
make people happy

247
00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,893
And this band becomes bigger

248
00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,193
and finally we succeed
into the second summer

249
00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:24,093
We are a home band
in East OBI,

250
00:12:24,193 --> 00:12:26,493
which is a club 10 times
the size of the Hamptons.

251
00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:27,627
... we must be good.

252
00:12:27,893 --> 00:12:30,393
Unfortunately, we don't have it
the ability to use it.

253
00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:32,593
Our management really doesn't understand what we are

254
00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:35,027
It's like trying to throw a saddle
on an atomic bomb.

255
00:12:35,093 --> 00:12:37,327
You know you like it rather
hold the sucker as long as possible

256
00:12:37,427 --> 00:12:38,860
before the whole
things explode.

257
00:12:38,927 --> 00:12:41,227
And in this case with Twisted,
no one can control it

258
00:12:41,293 --> 00:12:43,628
And finally the alcohol
dismantled the band

259
00:12:43,928 --> 00:12:46,394
Well, we decided to get rid of it
Michael and Billy.

260
00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:49,094
So we tried
to find out what to do next.

261
00:12:49,194 --> 00:12:51,028
We need new singers
and new guitar players.

262
00:12:51,094 --> 00:12:53,061
We contacted a man
named Keith Angel,

263
00:12:53,128 --> 00:12:55,594
He works
with a singer named Rick Prince.

264
00:12:55,861 --> 00:12:57,228
And they are both transplanted.

265
00:12:57,294 --> 00:12:58,394
And that's good.

266
00:12:58,494 --> 00:13:00,428
Except in the history of
from Twisted Sister,

267
00:13:00,528 --> 00:13:02,928
Rick Prince is there
for a total of nine weeks.

268
00:13:02,994 --> 00:13:04,294
Rick only one day
shows no show,

269
00:13:04,394 --> 00:13:05,494
and we never heard of it
from him again

270
00:13:05,494 --> 00:13:07,228
So now, the question is,
What are you doing?

271
00:13:07,294 --> 00:13:08,328
We don't have singers.

272
00:13:08,428 --> 00:13:10,361
I am very sick
depending on people.

273
00:13:10,429 --> 00:13:11,929
I thought, well, I would sing.

274
00:13:12,029 --> 00:13:13,329
Because I know
I will appear on the gig.

275
00:13:13,429 --> 00:13:15,295
But I'm very limited
vocal abilities.

276
00:13:15,395 --> 00:13:17,462
God created Dylan
so I can do cover material.

277
00:13:17,562 --> 00:13:20,062
So the point is I become the main singer,

278
00:13:20,129 --> 00:13:22,195
and it changes the focus
of the songs

279
00:13:22,295 --> 00:13:24,095
We do Kinks songs now.

280
00:13:24,195 --> 00:13:27,195
We are Mott's song,
more Lou Reed,

281
00:13:27,262 --> 00:13:28,195
so I can sing.

282
00:13:28,262 --> 00:13:31,629
So now the band has four members,
and we're working

283
00:13:32,862 --> 00:13:34,462
My days in Peacock,

284
00:13:34,529 --> 00:13:37,095
P as in urination, C like in chickens -
You are on the left

285
00:13:37,095 --> 00:13:39,496
can see urinating, you
on the right can see chicken -

286
00:13:39,496 --> 00:13:41,930
that's what the keyboard
ordinary player says

287
00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:44,030
In Peacock I have the opportunity
to hone my skills

288
00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:46,430
five days a week,
five sets of nights

289
00:13:46,496 --> 00:13:48,896
But also buildings
a name for myself locally

290
00:13:48,963 --> 00:13:52,563
I know that Twisted Sister
is a name in the club scene.

291
00:13:52,630 --> 00:13:55,196
I used to see them
in the local newspaper,

292
00:13:55,263 --> 00:13:57,630
and from hearing about them,
people will talk about it

293
00:13:57,896 --> 00:14:01,296
Mott The Hoople, Lou Reed,
You know, David Bowie,

294
00:14:01,363 --> 00:14:02,330
it's their thing

295
00:14:02,396 --> 00:14:05,863
I like all that.
I love all that.

296
00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:09,331
So I am very interested
in dealing with some people

297
00:14:09,397 --> 00:14:10,597
like who goes into it

298
00:14:10,864 --> 00:14:12,897
This new version
from Twisted Sister,

299
00:14:12,997 --> 00:14:14,931
winding road
to summer

300
00:14:15,031 --> 00:14:18,564
We lost our big show on OBI,
and I can feel it

301
00:14:18,631 --> 00:14:20,564
if we don't do it
something drastic,

302
00:14:20,631 --> 00:14:21,931
This band won't last long.

303
00:14:22,031 --> 00:14:25,131
And my agent suggested
we get n - the main vocalist

304
00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:27,531
And he suggested
this child is Danny Snider,

305
00:14:27,597 --> 00:14:29,231
from a band called Merak.

306
00:14:29,331 --> 00:14:31,631
And I told Mel and Keith
in the locker room

307
00:14:31,897 --> 00:14:34,931
that I bring a man down
who shows real interest

308
00:14:34,997 --> 00:14:36,097
as the main singer.

309
00:14:36,197 --> 00:14:38,332
I should be aware of
from their responses

310
00:14:38,398 --> 00:14:39,932
that this won't work well.

311
00:14:39,998 --> 00:14:41,098
They leave,
"No, there's no reason

312
00:14:41,165 --> 00:14:43,998
why do we need singers
We're fine."

313
00:14:44,098 --> 00:14:45,265
Well, we're not okay.

314
00:14:45,365 --> 00:14:48,565
I remember he came
and said, "I am what you need,

315
00:14:48,865 --> 00:14:50,932
I can do this,
I can put you on top."

316
00:14:51,032 --> 00:14:53,332
I say, "Yes of course,
you know, go."

317
00:14:53,432 --> 00:14:55,298
And I said, "OK."
And when I walk away,

318
00:14:55,398 --> 00:14:58,165
Jay Jay is pragmatically -
always pragmatic -

319
00:14:58,232 --> 00:15:00,965
said, "You know, give me
your telephone number just in case."

320
00:15:02,265 --> 00:15:04,865
We play a performance
at Batu Palace

321
00:15:04,965 --> 00:15:07,399
on Lake Carmel
on Labor Day '75 weekend,

322
00:15:07,499 --> 00:15:11,033
and after that night
that we played,

323
00:15:11,099 --> 00:15:14,333
Mel and Keith
take the truck

324
00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:18,133
And basically,
"Fuck and Kenny. Give another injection? "

325
00:15:22,899 --> 00:15:25,633


326
00:15:25,899 --> 00:15:27,333


327
00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:30,933


328
00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:34,099


329
00:15:36,534 --> 00:15:39,134
I said, "Well I can call my parents
Guitar players from high school,

330
00:15:45,134 --> 00:15:46,967
I'm always
in a band that works,

331
00:15:47,034 --> 00:15:49,067
I always play
for life.

332
00:15:49,134 --> 00:15:50,267
When Jay Jay first gave I know

333
00:15:50,334 --> 00:15:52,567
but there is something...
You have to play dance.

334
00:15:52,867 --> 00:15:54,867
We look around
for drummer

335
00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,067
and find Kevin John Grace and
basically try to collect

336
00:16:03,134 --> 00:16:06,368
some of the same ingredients
we used to have

337
00:16:06,468 --> 00:16:08,001


338
00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:11,968


339
00:16:12,068 --> 00:16:13,635


340
00:16:13,901 --> 00:16:16,635
We try to do a
four pieces, and that's cool.

341
00:16:16,901 --> 00:16:19,401
We do more
like Rolling Stones items,

342
00:16:19,501 --> 00:16:20,901
more middle of the road rock.

343
00:16:21,001 --> 00:16:22,901
I am now exposed as a singer.

344
00:16:23,001 --> 00:16:25,401
So we used to do
songs and I would berate the audience

345
00:16:25,501 --> 00:16:27,268
and try to get it
clap with us

346
00:16:27,335 --> 00:16:29,901
Hustle them in any way I can
to try to get a reaction,

347
00:16:29,968 --> 00:16:30,868
because we are sucked,

348
00:16:30,868 --> 00:16:32,535
or I think we are sucked
or I am not confident

349
00:16:32,535 --> 00:16:36,069
in what we do, and I think
is good, if I can't do it -

350
00:16:36,169 --> 00:16:37,336
if we can't play better,

351
00:16:37,436 --> 00:16:40,069
I will beat them to death
until they clap.

352
00:16:40,169 --> 00:16:42,402
It's fun but it's
isn't - like,

353
00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:44,402
we certainly
only cover band.

354
00:16:44,502 --> 00:16:47,002
That only happens
a pleasant closing band

355
00:16:47,102 --> 00:16:51,969
I have a desire to return
to where I just got -

356
00:16:52,036 --> 00:16:53,236
forget more than that.

357
00:16:53,302 --> 00:16:57,402
I've - I feel, like I
said, 2,000 people at the bar.

358
00:16:57,502 --> 00:16:58,936
I feel the power of a band.

359
00:16:59,002 --> 00:17:01,036
I want that, man,
I really want it

360
00:17:01,102 --> 00:17:03,370
So we know we have
doing something.

361
00:17:03,437 --> 00:17:06,337
So we decided,
let's sing.

362
00:17:06,437 --> 00:17:09,503
And so on...

363
00:17:09,603 --> 00:17:11,103
I called Dee again.

364
00:17:11,203 --> 00:17:15,503
And he invited me to come
to Hunter Mountain

365
00:17:15,603 --> 00:17:17,503
This band is ordered
for the weekend

366
00:17:17,603 --> 00:17:19,470
We can audition,
and if successful,

367
00:17:19,537 --> 00:17:21,970
we can practice,
and we can play that weekend.

368
00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:23,903
This happened
to become my big audition

369
00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:26,870
and my big shot at the star.

370
00:17:28,070 --> 00:17:30,070
So we finally gave him a chance,

371
00:17:30,137 --> 00:17:32,438
and we are amazed
how good he is.

372
00:17:32,538 --> 00:17:34,471
And one of the biggest things
like,

373
00:17:34,571 --> 00:17:36,538
uh, he doesn't drink!

374
00:17:38,271 --> 00:17:40,271
After I auditioned for me,

375
00:17:40,338 --> 00:17:43,104
Jay Jay took me out
and he rather said,

376
00:17:43,204 --> 00:17:47,238
"Well, I have a name,
and I have a P.A.
system.

377
00:17:47,338 --> 00:17:48,338
Are you cool with that?"

378
00:17:48,404 --> 00:17:50,104
And I said, "Yeah, okay."

379
00:17:50,204 --> 00:17:54,104
And he said, "OK,
we will see how it goes."

380
00:17:54,204 --> 00:17:56,638
I have never been officially informed,
"You entered

381
00:17:56,904 --> 00:17:58,571
That's just,
" We'll see how it goes. "

382
00:17:58,638 --> 00:18:03,139
So I've been on a basic trial for the past 35 years.

383
00:18:03,205 --> 00:18:05,872
You know, I don't know,
I'm waiting to get a call.

384
00:18:08,905 --> 00:18:11,172
So we started practicing
with Kevin

385
00:18:11,272 --> 00:18:14,439
And that's a problem because Kevin
drums aren't that good,

386
00:18:14,505 --> 00:18:16,039
and we know
That is the next issue.

387
00:18:16,105 --> 00:18:19,039
Jay Jay has a friend named Tony Petrie,

388
00:18:21,339 --> 00:18:24,372
Jay Jay said,
"This guy Tony is a hard hiter,

389
00:18:24,472 --> 00:18:27,305
he's a great drummer,
and he is in

390
00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:32,440
So, uh, we started the
training behind the back Kevin John Grace.

391
00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:34,873
We formed a pattern
in Twisted Sister

392
00:18:34,873 --> 00:18:36,873
that you don't fire a man
until you have a new man ready

393
00:18:36,873 --> 00:18:38,273
because you can't afford
lose date

394
00:18:38,306 --> 00:18:41,306
So we practice with Tony,
we prepare Tony.

395
00:18:41,406 --> 00:18:43,306
We tell Kevin it's over.

396
00:18:43,406 --> 00:18:49,040
And now with my band
and Dee and Tony and Kenny and Eddie,

397
00:18:49,106 --> 00:18:52,206
the current band makes
frontal attacks

398
00:18:52,273 --> 00:18:54,073
in the Long Island bar scene.

399
00:18:54,140 --> 00:18:57,206
Let's go!

400
00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,441
Come on, baby!
You all know the words, this -

401
00:19:02,507 --> 00:19:04,307
Hey bro!

402
00:19:04,374 --> 00:19:05,307
♪ Hey man ♪

403
00:19:05,374 --> 00:19:07,041
♪ Ah leave me alone you know ♪

404
00:19:07,141 --> 00:19:08,107
♪ Hey man ♪

405
00:19:08,174 --> 00:19:10,007
♪ Well Henry, get off the phone,
I have to ♪

406
00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:11,007
♪ Hey man ♪

407
00:19:11,107 --> 00:19:12,307
♪ I have to straighten my face ♪

408
00:19:12,407 --> 00:19:15,574
♪ This soft little girl
put my spine from the place ♪

409
00:19:15,641 --> 00:19:16,574
♪ Hey man ♪

410
00:19:16,641 --> 00:19:18,207
♪ My school day is crazy ♪

411
00:19:18,307 --> 00:19:19,374
♪ Hey man ♪

412
00:19:19,441 --> 00:19:20,541
♪ My work is in vain ♪

413
00:19:20,607 --> 00:19:22,074
♪ Hey man ♪

414
00:19:22,174 --> 00:19:23,574
♪ Well, he's really blurry ♪

415
00:19:23,641 --> 00:19:26,241
♪ He said he had to blackmail him
but he... then he... ♪

416
00:19:26,341 --> 00:19:29,208
♪ Ah don't lean on me, man,
Because you can't pay for tickets ♪

417
00:19:29,308 --> 00:19:31,475
♪ I returned from
City Suffragette ♪

418
00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:33,242
♪ Oh don't lean on me, man ♪

419
00:19:33,342 --> 00:19:35,042
♪ Because you don't have time
to examine it ♪

420
00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:37,042
♪ You know me
City of Suffragette... ♪

421
00:19:37,108 --> 00:19:40,508
I remember my father
was in a show

422
00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:43,275
And my father is very blunt
about that.
He said,

423
00:19:43,375 --> 00:19:47,008
"You are pretty boring until you
He takes him on stage."

424
00:19:47,075 --> 00:19:49,042
♪ Ohhh, Wham Bam
Thank you, Ma'am ♪

425
00:19:50,975 --> 00:19:52,875
♪ Suffragette City ♪

426
00:19:53,408 --> 00:19:56,075
♪ Suffragette City ♪

427
00:19:56,175 --> 00:19:58,409
♪ Suffragette!
♪

428
00:19:59,409 --> 00:20:01,876
♪ Oh, Suffragette!
♪

429
00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,243
So when Dee joined
band, he said,

430
00:20:05,309 --> 00:20:07,243
"Oh, let's use make-up
and you know,

431
00:20:07,343 --> 00:20:08,909
and return to that view."

432
00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:13,476
Listen, honey?

433
00:20:13,543 --> 00:20:16,376
Maybe it's hot
but we will make it hotter!

434
00:20:18,643 --> 00:20:21,909
♪ Doo doo doo-doo
doo doo doo doo ♪

435
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:26,644
♪ You have your mother
in a vortex ♪

436
00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:29,877
♪ He is not sure if you are
boys or girls ♪

437
00:20:29,944 --> 00:20:32,510
♪ Hey, baby,
your hair is fine ♪

438
00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:35,910
♪ Hey, baby,
let's go out tonight... ♪

439
00:20:35,977 --> 00:20:39,344
Little by little we just started
being very striking

440
00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:42,444
and use more make-up
and arrange hair

441
00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:44,577
and you know,
clothes and goods,

442
00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:48,310
and steal our mother's clothes
and things like that.

443
00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:52,010
But I only really took
one - two shirts from my mother

444
00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:53,644
It's not like
I stole all his clothes.

445
00:20:54,445 --> 00:20:56,445
♪ You like the band when
they play hard ♪

446
00:20:56,511 --> 00:20:59,911
♪ You want more
and you want fast ♪

447
00:21:00,011 --> 00:21:02,611
♪ They drop you,
they say I'm wrong ♪

448
00:21:02,878 --> 00:21:05,945
♪ You are tacky,
You put them in... ♪

449
00:21:06,045 --> 00:21:07,411
As far as the image goes,

450
00:21:07,478 --> 00:21:11,211
I, like I said,
looking to get more adventures.

451
00:21:12,878 --> 00:21:14,445
Then I met Suzette.

452
00:21:14,511 --> 00:21:18,278
Both I am 15 and I am borrowing my cousin, I.D.,

453
00:21:18,378 --> 00:21:21,611
which is much older than me,
but I see - I don't see 15.

454
00:21:25,012 --> 00:21:29,146
So I slipped in, and I went
to go see the girl band, Twisted Sister.

455
00:21:29,212 --> 00:21:31,979
I thought they would become
a group of girls, but it didn't.

456
00:21:32,046 --> 00:21:34,112
They are a group of men who try
look like girls

457
00:21:34,179 --> 00:21:37,446
I was a little blown away
away when this big guy--

458
00:21:37,512 --> 00:21:39,546
because Dee's 6'1 "-
and he uses,

459
00:21:39,612 --> 00:21:42,246
I think,
like an eight-inch platform,

460
00:21:42,346 --> 00:21:43,512
with a little hot pants

461
00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:47,979
He doesn't look attractive.
He looks creepy,

462
00:21:48,046 --> 00:21:50,346
but outside on stage.

463
00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:56,080
And Dee misled me with a smile,
like, I came to her.

464
00:21:56,147 --> 00:21:57,980
And Dee slowly
approached me,

465
00:21:58,047 --> 00:22:00,147
and he bent at his side
from the stage

466
00:22:00,247 --> 00:22:02,180
and he kinda gave me this one
.

467
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,147
And I kind of felt like I was
like being sucked into a vortex.

468
00:22:08,213 --> 00:22:09,547
He thinks I look ridiculous

469
00:22:09,613 --> 00:22:12,013
and if I will do it
I must be better at it.

470
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,613
So he started to encourage me
to wear lipstick

471
00:22:15,913 --> 00:22:19,613
And me,
"Hey, I'm not gay."

472
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,381
This is a strange thing to say.

473
00:22:21,448 --> 00:22:24,414
I wear stockings
and hot pants when I meet him,

474
00:22:24,514 --> 00:22:26,148
and high thigh leather boots
and gloves.

475
00:22:26,214 --> 00:22:28,914
You know - "I Dee,
Blow Me" my shirt said.

476
00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:30,881
But for me it's
like the

477
00:22:30,948 --> 00:22:31,881
line  You know,
Do you wear lipstick?

478
00:22:31,948 --> 00:22:34,214
I don't wear lipstick.
And I remember he said,

479
00:22:34,314 --> 00:22:37,614
"Well, I have this little tray
lip glossing."

480
00:22:37,914 --> 00:22:40,614
And here
at the bottom is just clear.

481
00:22:40,914 --> 00:22:43,381
And at the other end
is bright red.

482
00:22:45,081 --> 00:22:48,148
And I'm like, "Okay, obviously.
But you know.

483
00:22:48,214 --> 00:22:49,514
I'm not gay." Okay.

484
00:22:49,614 --> 00:22:50,582
Clear the gloss.

485
00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:52,415
And I quickly ran out of the compartment

486
00:22:52,515 --> 00:22:55,115
and the next one
a little beige-ish.

487
00:22:55,215 --> 00:22:56,515
So I go through that.

488
00:22:56,615 --> 00:22:59,415
OK
about one dozen.

489
00:22:59,482 --> 00:23:01,982
At the moment
I ran out of the last,

490
00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:04,015
the color is red like red.

491
00:23:04,082 --> 00:23:06,082
I'm just full of red breath.

492
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:11,482
We think
will be a good idea

493
00:23:11,582 --> 00:23:12,649
to get a band house

494
00:23:12,915 --> 00:23:15,015
The idea of being
that we will live together,

495
00:23:15,082 --> 00:23:18,949
we will create together,
we will be bound

496
00:23:19,015 --> 00:23:21,416
And we rent houses
in a very nice environment

497
00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:25,150
in Massapequa, Long Island--
Old Harbor Greene.

498
00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:27,250
And we all move.

499
00:23:31,283 --> 00:23:33,416
We work all night
and then we go home.

500
00:23:33,416 --> 00:23:34,550
We will sleep.
We will wake up.

501
00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:36,316
We will meet
in the kitchen every day

502
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:37,616
So this is our life.

503
00:23:38,416 --> 00:23:39,450
One two three four!

504
00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:47,516
♪ When I'm on a
rock 'n' roll band ♪

505
00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:50,651
♪ And I play '
one night stands ♪

506
00:23:50,951 --> 00:23:53,217
♪ And I said I want
be your man ♪

507
00:23:53,284 --> 00:23:55,351
♪ And that's fine ♪

508
00:23:56,917 --> 00:23:59,417
♪ But T says that
we don't make it ♪

509
00:23:59,517 --> 00:24:02,984
♪ Even though it's invaded ♪

510
00:24:03,084 --> 00:24:06,351
♪ The situation is tired
and it is evil ♪

511
00:24:07,651 --> 00:24:08,951
What happened,
rather than bring

512
00:24:09,017 --> 00:24:12,584
band together
and bind us,

513
00:24:12,884 --> 00:24:15,351
my isolation starts
in that house

514
00:24:15,451 --> 00:24:20,518
I really want to be hung
with these people

515
00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:23,118
They are older than me.
They are from Manhattan.

516
00:24:23,218 --> 00:24:26,352
They are from the Bronx.
They have been on Twisted Sister.

517
00:24:26,452 --> 00:24:29,318
You know.
They are these cool people.

518
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:33,985
And I'm 21 years old from
Long Island,

519
00:24:34,052 --> 00:24:36,318
a rube, a dork,

520
00:24:36,385 --> 00:24:40,618
and I don't have nearly
cool credibility

521
00:24:40,885 --> 00:24:42,218
that they have any way.

522
00:24:42,285 --> 00:24:44,452
And I really admire them
and look at them.

523
00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:48,319
Jay Jay is our manager.

524
00:24:48,419 --> 00:24:49,919
Kevin is our agent.

525
00:24:49,986 --> 00:24:53,653
And we are meeting and discussing the original

526
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:55,919
and we are talking about everything
"Can't stand still,"

527
00:24:56,019 --> 00:24:58,519
"For One Minute," and "Wife TV,"
"Follow me."

528
00:24:58,619 --> 00:25:00,253
He hates his songs
which we do

529
00:25:00,353 --> 00:25:02,919
And, of course, Dee becomes Dee
not polite about that

530
00:25:02,986 --> 00:25:04,886
Not that he left,
"Hey, you know..."

531
00:25:04,986 --> 00:25:06,219
I just exclaim,

532
00:25:06,286 --> 00:25:08,653
and just say, "These songs
- I don't like these songs.

533
00:25:08,919 --> 00:25:12,019
They aren't right for this band.
They're not very good songs.

534
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,486
They won't make a difference.
Bla blah blah... "

535
00:25:14,553 --> 00:25:16,054
And I just fence,

536
00:25:16,154 --> 00:25:20,020
and Kevin Brenner said,
"Do you write songs?"

537
00:25:20,087 --> 00:25:21,920
And I said, "Yes."

538
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,554
I've written it
with Harlequin--

539
00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:25,020
co-written one.

540
00:25:25,087 --> 00:25:29,320
And he said, "Do you have one?
there is a song... to submit?"

541
00:25:29,387 --> 00:25:30,487
And I said, "No."

542
00:25:30,587 --> 00:25:32,887
And he said,
"OK until you do it."

543
00:25:34,487 --> 00:25:37,054
I came to Jay Jay
with an idea for a song,

544
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,387
and I don't remember that

545
00:25:38,487 --> 00:25:41,287
I am very nervous
bring it to him

546
00:25:41,387 --> 00:25:43,887
Jay Jay, of course,
is unconscious

547
00:25:43,987 --> 00:25:45,988
the importance of
from what happened to me

548
00:25:46,055 --> 00:25:49,055
And when I present the song
He and I sing it for him

549
00:25:49,155 --> 00:25:51,021
and I'm very nervous

550
00:25:51,088 --> 00:25:53,421
and uncomfortable
sing this song

551
00:25:53,521 --> 00:25:55,221
Jay Jay says,

552
00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:59,521
"Oh, that's about you
and Suzette?
Cute."

553
00:25:59,588 --> 00:26:01,588
And he turned,

554
00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:05,621
and start an
conversation with other people

555
00:26:05,888 --> 00:26:10,355
And indeed
a big mistake.

556
00:26:12,221 --> 00:26:13,922
Depends on how you
see it.

557
00:26:13,989 --> 00:26:15,522
I mean if you see it as

558
00:26:15,589 --> 00:26:18,489
driving,
motivating strength for me

559
00:26:18,556 --> 00:26:22,922
to prove Jay Jay
and the world

560
00:26:23,022 --> 00:26:24,122
that I am someone,

561
00:26:24,189 --> 00:26:29,322
and encouragement for me
become this maniac songwriter

562
00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,056
who just started
rummaging through songs

563
00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:32,889
with ridiculous speed -

564
00:26:34,389 --> 00:26:36,489
If you see it like that,
then it's a good thing.

565
00:26:36,556 --> 00:26:39,289
But that really keeps me away from the band,

566
00:26:39,356 --> 00:26:41,089
and I just go
to my own world

567
00:26:41,156 --> 00:26:44,490
and I started creating
apart from the band.

568
00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:50,390
My only goal is to eliminate
Jay Jay French and his song

569
00:26:50,490 --> 00:26:53,423
and take over
songwriting altogether.

570
00:26:53,490 --> 00:26:56,057
I'm crazy

571
00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:57,323
and evil

572
00:26:57,423 --> 00:26:59,157
And uh...

573
00:27:00,557 --> 00:27:02,023
I do it.

574
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:06,590
♪ You and me,
We light a fire ♪

575
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:10,923
♪ We build it, baby,
My desire ♪

576
00:27:10,990 --> 00:27:14,324
♪ But now you say
I'm over ♪

577
00:27:14,391 --> 00:27:18,591
♪ Be careful, honey,
Don't make me choose it ♪

578
00:27:18,658 --> 00:27:23,024
♪ Oh, always,
Oh, always ♪

579
00:27:23,124 --> 00:27:24,624
♪ Must pay the price ♪

580
00:27:24,891 --> 00:27:27,024
♪ Oughta hears
who wants to be loved for free ♪

581
00:27:27,124 --> 00:27:28,524
♪ Must pay the price ♪

582
00:27:28,591 --> 00:27:32,891
♪ Oh, pay the price
to love me, huh... ♪

583
00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,424
Dee doesn't suit me.

584
00:27:34,524 --> 00:27:36,924
But again,
I am a pragmatic.

585
00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:39,058
I need a singer,
I'm not a singer

586
00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:42,159
I mean, I need someone
that and if it comes with baggage

587
00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:45,059
I am ready to install
with luggage to a certain level.

588
00:27:46,292 --> 00:27:48,559
That is "Come Back."
That is "Pay Price."

589
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:51,459
I think it's the first song.

590
00:27:51,525 --> 00:27:53,259
That's when I kinda
go, "Wow,

591
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,392
that person has...
There's something there."

592
00:27:55,492 --> 00:27:57,192
♪ Pay price ♪

593
00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:01,225
♪ Oh, pay the price
to love me, yeah ♪

594
00:28:01,292 --> 00:28:03,892
♪ To love you, yes... ♪

595
00:28:16,393 --> 00:28:17,626
When I joined this band,

596
00:28:17,926 --> 00:28:22,926
Jay Jay already has a relationship with the audience.

597
00:28:22,993 --> 00:28:24,926
I think that's what you will call it  A relationship where he will speak
between songs

598
00:28:24,993 --> 00:28:27,226
There is a certain song
where will he go

599
00:28:27,293 --> 00:28:29,126


600
00:28:29,193 --> 00:28:31,093
for a little audience
participation or whatever

601
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,593
So that
definitely has

602
00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:38,127
for my memory, and I will do it
just stand aside.

603
00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:41,294
We will finish a song
and I will retreat,

604
00:28:41,361 --> 00:28:44,294
Jay Jay will speak.
maybe I
throw a word or two here.

605
00:28:44,361 --> 00:28:45,994
But this is Jay Jay's band,

606
00:28:46,061 --> 00:28:48,294
You know
I joined Twisted Sister.

607
00:28:48,361 --> 00:28:51,194
And I am the child
and he is an experienced pro.

608
00:28:51,261 --> 00:28:53,994
As summer begins,
women and men,

609
00:28:54,094 --> 00:28:57,027
and we all party ourselves
to death,

610
00:28:57,094 --> 00:29:00,394
We want to welcome you to the summer of '77

611
00:29:00,461 --> 00:29:03,661
with a song titled,
"Jane is sweet!"

612
00:29:16,895 --> 00:29:19,062
♪ Standin 'in the corner ♪

613
00:29:19,162 --> 00:29:23,495
♪ Suitcase in my hand ♪

614
00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:25,428
♪ Jack in his corset,
Jane in her vest ♪

615
00:29:25,495 --> 00:29:29,028
♪ I'm on the rock 'n' roll band ♪

616
00:29:29,095 --> 00:29:31,628
I sang "Sweet Jane"
and that is mine

617
00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:35,262
And somewhere in the middle of
from "Sweet Jane," one night,

618
00:29:35,362 --> 00:29:38,996
I will get the audience
to sing the phrase "Sweet Jane"  I stopped the show.

619
00:29:39,063 --> 00:29:40,063
♪ Sweet Jane ♪

620
00:29:46,463 --> 00:29:48,196
Now as easy or what?

621
00:29:49,063 --> 00:29:51,463
And I said, what do you know?

622
00:29:51,563 --> 00:29:52,496


623
00:29:52,596 --> 00:29:54,329
Why don't we get a partner?
people on stage

624
00:29:54,329 --> 00:29:55,329
and sing together.

625
00:29:55,396 --> 00:29:58,396
So we invite people
on stage to sing together.

626
00:29:58,496 --> 00:30:01,063
And we have a big gong behind us,
Because at "Gong Show,"

627
00:30:01,129 --> 00:30:02,929
they will gong you
if you suck

628
00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:04,496
So I will tell people to sing

629
00:30:04,596 --> 00:30:06,530
and then if they suck,
my drummer will -

630
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:09,264
the audience is basically
be like a Roman amphitheater.

631
00:30:09,364 --> 00:30:12,364
You know, "They suck."
And he will get rid of it.

632
00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:15,097
And if they sing well, they will get a big round of applause.

633
00:30:15,164 --> 00:30:17,297
And that lasts several
from weeks.

634
00:30:17,397 --> 00:30:19,430
But you know I need more.

635
00:30:19,497 --> 00:30:21,597
So I said to the bartender,

636
00:30:21,664 --> 00:30:24,330
"Send a few glasses of shots
and give me some liquor

637
00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:26,930
and maybe we will take a picture
something and try it."

638
00:30:26,997 --> 00:30:28,930
What are you looking for,
people stoned?

639
00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:30,964
I'm looking for beer!

640
00:30:31,064 --> 00:30:34,365
So they send a bottle of tequila
up or Wild Turkey or the like

641
00:30:34,431 --> 00:30:37,331
and maybe there are
five or six girls and guys

642
00:30:37,398 --> 00:30:39,398
And we will try it
and they will sing "Sweet Jane"

643
00:30:39,465 --> 00:30:41,998
and then they will only get
more drunk and become stupid,

644
00:30:42,065 --> 00:30:43,365
and the reaction
will get bigger,

645
00:30:43,431 --> 00:30:44,598
and crowds
start to get bigger

646
00:30:45,265 --> 00:30:46,598
♪ Sweet Jane ♪

647
00:30:48,065 --> 00:30:49,565
♪ Sweet Jane ♪

648
00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:52,498
This is the big difference between us
and all other bands.

649
00:30:52,565 --> 00:30:54,365
We don't play music here.
We're nonsense

650
00:30:54,431 --> 00:30:56,598
We tell jokes.
We just drunk people

651
00:30:56,665 --> 00:30:58,598
and tell them
to sing "Jane sweet!"

652
00:30:58,898 --> 00:31:01,298
And make them laugh out loud
the stage and their gonging.

653
00:31:01,365 --> 00:31:03,099
And more alcohol,
and more alcohol enters

654
00:31:03,199 --> 00:31:05,499
And finally one night I thought
we were six or seven shots in

655
00:31:05,566 --> 00:31:07,666
and some guys
vomit on stage,

656
00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:10,266
and he is this big fat man -
they call him Buddha

657
00:31:10,366 --> 00:31:13,632
And he throws up
in a garbage basket

658
00:31:13,899 --> 00:31:15,332
and the place goes crazy.

659
00:31:15,399 --> 00:31:16,966
"Buddha, Buddha."
And I think,

660
00:31:17,032 --> 00:31:19,132
Wow man...

661
00:31:19,199 --> 00:31:22,299
they vomit,
and they love it.

662
00:31:22,366 --> 00:31:24,199
This... what is the picture!

663
00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:26,432
So we will do "The Drop Till
You Vomit Gong Show."

664
00:31:26,532 --> 00:31:29,499
No, this is "The Sweet Jane Drink
Until you Puke Gong Show."

665
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,399
Right.
That is what it is.

666
00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:33,967
Yes, believe it or not
There are lines of people

667
00:31:34,067 --> 00:31:36,167
who can't wait to drink
until they throw up

668
00:31:36,233 --> 00:31:40,033
I feel really messed up
up now

669
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,900
And that's very good!

670
00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:46,967
A man actually turns
around and puked.

671
00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:49,967
And then turn
and say,

672
00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:53,033
"Okay, I'm ready to go again."

673
00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:54,533
That's evil...

674
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,367
unless you like vomiting.

675
00:31:57,233 --> 00:32:00,167
♪ Some people like going out
dancing, baby ♪

676
00:32:00,233 --> 00:32:02,468
♪ Well people like us,
we have to work ♪

677
00:32:02,534 --> 00:32:07,068
Last night we made
they drank...

678
00:32:07,168 --> 00:32:08,468
Let me say
to you this way...

679
00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:10,434
Do you know how to do it? When you see a hot dog

680
00:32:10,434 --> 00:32:13,601
meal contest at Coney Island,
skinny men always win?

681
00:32:13,668 --> 00:32:14,634
There are like fat people,

682
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:18,001
but like some small Japanese people
dude eat 1,000 hot dogs?

683
00:32:18,101 --> 00:32:19,634
Well, that's down
for Buddha

684
00:32:19,901 --> 00:32:22,034
and some really thin,
Little dude,

685
00:32:22,134 --> 00:32:23,034
and they drink.

686
00:32:23,134 --> 00:32:26,034
And at some point at night,
the bartender said,

687
00:32:26,134 --> 00:32:28,068
"I think you've given
they are quite dead" -

688
00:32:28,168 --> 00:32:29,068
or something like--

689
00:32:29,168 --> 00:32:31,569
"I think you've given them
might turn off..."

690
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:33,435
I mean, don't know!

691
00:32:33,535 --> 00:32:35,102
I hate this.
I don't drink!

692
00:32:35,202 --> 00:32:37,335
I don't know what turns off
the amount of alcohol or not.

693
00:32:37,435 --> 00:32:38,635
But it goes without saying,

694
00:32:38,935 --> 00:32:41,335
the winner gets a beer case,
which is a joke

695
00:32:41,435 --> 00:32:43,402
So the child,
the skinny kid wins

696
00:32:43,502 --> 00:32:45,902
and they submit the case to him
and he is only colla--

697
00:32:45,969 --> 00:32:47,902
He can't hold it back.
He is so messed up!

698
00:32:47,969 --> 00:32:49,002
If we try it today,

699
00:32:49,102 --> 00:32:51,435
it's criminal - I'm sure
we will all be imprisoned.

700
00:32:51,502 --> 00:32:54,302
Eh, they're not friendly
this kind of thing again

701
00:32:54,402 --> 00:32:57,069
But back in those days
was just good, clean fun!

702
00:32:58,402 --> 00:33:01,036
Long Island, you're outrageous!
Thank you!

703
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:06,170
I mean crazy stuff
happens.

704
00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:08,436
And also embarrassing things
happen.

705
00:33:08,503 --> 00:33:10,003
For example the World Series,

706
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:13,303
when the Yankees played in '77, we couldn't...

707
00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:14,603
People don't want us to play.

708
00:33:14,670 --> 00:33:16,136
The match will be on television.

709
00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:18,136
They have partners
from TV sets there,

710
00:33:18,236 --> 00:33:20,236
and we will leave the stage -
"Hey, shut up!

711
00:33:20,303 --> 00:33:22,270
We are watching
damn Yankee games!"

712
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:24,003
We walk outside the stage and go,
"Fuck, do you know what?

713
00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:26,070
We won't play until
The World Series has ended!"

714
00:33:26,136 --> 00:33:27,936
So we will appear in...
we will appear

715
00:33:28,004 --> 00:33:30,004
and just sit around
until the bad game ends.

716
00:33:30,104 --> 00:33:32,337
And that, by the way, it's not the only time that happens.

717
00:33:32,404 --> 00:33:33,571
You know, you are a band bar,

718
00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,271
You are only an additional
until night

719
00:33:35,337 --> 00:33:38,104
Maybe this is another reason
why we want to be loved

720
00:33:38,171 --> 00:33:40,304
and want to make something
from ourselves.

721
00:33:40,371 --> 00:33:41,637
Because we are not like,

722
00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:43,504
"Oh, let's go to the bar!

723
00:33:43,604 --> 00:33:44,904
Oh, there's a band there."

724
00:33:44,971 --> 00:33:46,571
Yes, and indeed
just damn--

725
00:33:46,637 --> 00:33:49,404
they are only there to be--
to give us some background music

726
00:33:49,471 --> 00:33:51,971
while we find out how
to get high and get put down.

727
00:33:52,037 --> 00:33:53,371
And we think,
"No no No!

728
00:33:53,471 --> 00:33:55,204
" We are a band!
We are more than that!

729
00:33:55,271 --> 00:33:56,371
"We are more
than just background music

730
00:33:56,437 --> 00:33:59,905
for you to get high and
laid!
We are something!"

731
00:34:01,505 --> 00:34:03,272
Tonight we have
a little message for you,

732
00:34:03,372 --> 00:34:06,972
women and men.
Everybody reads it?

733
00:34:07,038 --> 00:34:09,572
It says, "Disco Fucking Sucks,"
Do you hear what I say?

734
00:34:09,672 --> 00:34:11,438
Now everyone,

735
00:34:11,538 --> 00:34:13,372
I want you to count
from three to read the sign!

736
00:34:13,438 --> 00:34:15,038
Are you ready to go?

737
00:34:15,138 --> 00:34:19,072
One two three--
Disco Fuckin 'Sucks!

738
00:34:19,138 --> 00:34:21,305
Class, again!

739
00:34:21,372 --> 00:34:24,038
When you are on stage
and do schtick

740
00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:27,339
You try to kill
four hours a night, you know

741
00:34:27,406 --> 00:34:29,473
This is a lot to do,
a lotta music to be played

742
00:34:29,539 --> 00:34:30,973
and you are looking for
for other things

743
00:34:31,073 --> 00:34:33,506
to stretch it.

744
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:36,273
And "Disco Sucks" becomes very large
response from the audience

745
00:34:36,339 --> 00:34:39,473
so it quickly becomes
something for us

746
00:34:39,539 --> 00:34:42,973
Dee or I say something
like "Disco sucks."

747
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:44,606
Someone yells something.

748
00:34:44,906 --> 00:34:46,206
Maybe someone shouted,

749
00:34:46,306 --> 00:34:48,106
"Yeah, disco sucks!"

750
00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:50,439
Maybe.
And we left,
"Yeah, the disco sucks..."

751
00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:55,474
I don't know
But the reaction
For those words like whoo!

752
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,374
It feels like you are lighting a fire,

753
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,140
Suddenly we see each other and go - Bingo!

754
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,274
Disco sucks!

755
00:35:01,374 --> 00:35:02,974
Disco sucks!

756
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,974
Disco sucks!

757
00:35:05,074 --> 00:35:08,340
They will go down
to the record store

758
00:35:08,407 --> 00:35:11,007
and take many
from disco singles

759
00:35:11,107 --> 00:35:14,640
And they will spread it
on the stage.

760
00:35:14,907 --> 00:35:18,440
And then Dee will get it
a big hammer hammer

761
00:35:18,507 --> 00:35:21,040
and you know everyone
at the count of three -

762
00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:23,674
"Disco sucks!"
and he will do it
just take a sledgehammer

763
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:28,008
and bash damn fucking from
fucking disco recordings, ahh!

764
00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:29,141
Disco sucks!

765
00:35:29,208 --> 00:35:30,375
Disco sucks!

766
00:35:30,475 --> 00:35:33,008
And that is part
of club touring equipment

767
00:35:33,108 --> 00:35:34,041
is a sledgehammer

768
00:35:34,108 --> 00:35:37,075
You know, amplifier,
guitar, hammer hammer

769
00:35:37,141 --> 00:35:40,508
And uh, it's about metal
like you can get, right?

770
00:35:40,575 --> 00:35:44,308
♪ Alright, I hate Disco music ♪

771
00:35:44,408 --> 00:35:47,041
♪ Because disco music
really sucks ♪

772
00:35:47,141 --> 00:35:50,941
♪ Alright, I hate Disco music ♪

773
00:35:51,041 --> 00:35:53,342
♪ Because Disco really sucks ♪

774
00:35:53,442 --> 00:35:55,509
Everyone will pump their arms in the air  because you believe these people
will save rock 'n' roll

775
00:35:55,609 --> 00:36:01,009
and stamp out dirty Disco,
do you know?

776
00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:03,942
That - it's a real fight!

777
00:36:04,009 --> 00:36:06,142
There are people who are disco
and there are rock people.

778
00:36:06,242 --> 00:36:08,509
And that, you know,
no one met

779
00:36:08,576 --> 00:36:10,542
This is not a racial problem

780
00:36:10,642 --> 00:36:12,242
because so far
because I'm worried,

781
00:36:12,309 --> 00:36:14,009
There are no African-Americans

782
00:36:14,076 --> 00:36:16,476
in one of these clubs
to see one of these bands.

783
00:36:16,542 --> 00:36:19,176
It used to be--
for me seems

784
00:36:19,276 --> 00:36:21,576
a Brooklyn
Cliché John Travolta

785
00:36:21,676 --> 00:36:25,043


786
00:36:25,143 --> 00:36:29,510
versus guys wearing jeans
and t-shirts and sneakers.

787
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:33,677
And we are exploited
sociological breaks.

788
00:36:33,943 --> 00:36:35,077
Are we using boys?

789
00:36:35,143 --> 00:36:36,377
harder!

790
00:36:36,477 --> 00:36:39,043
I hate Disco music...

791
00:36:39,110 --> 00:36:40,043
Why ?!

792
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:43,377
Because Disco really sucks!

793
00:36:43,443 --> 00:36:46,143
Kataku, Village People
and Barry White,

794
00:36:46,243 --> 00:36:49,910
take a rocket to the moon
and stay away from my sight!

795
00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:53,378
♪ Because I hate Disco music ♪

796
00:36:53,444 --> 00:36:56,111
♪ Because Disco really sucks,
oh yeah... ♪

797
00:36:56,178 --> 00:37:00,111
We decided to hold it back
an experiment from Barry White

798
00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:02,611
and find him guilty of destroying
American popular music

799
00:37:02,911 --> 00:37:06,944
They have this big mannequin
wearing a tuxedo,

800
00:37:07,044 --> 00:37:09,944
with a long,
curly black wig in

801
00:37:10,011 --> 00:37:11,544
and they will do it
remove it and say,

802
00:37:11,644 --> 00:37:13,111
"Barry White
can't be here tonight

803
00:37:13,211 --> 00:37:15,278
so we will only have
to hang him on the statue.

804
00:37:15,378 --> 00:37:19,544
They will hang it,
and then beat him like a piñata. And the crowd will go wild
and "Kill him, kill him!"

805
00:37:19,644 --> 00:37:20,912
They will read,
you know.

806
00:37:21,012 --> 00:37:23,412
So we are offstage
think,

807
00:37:23,512 --> 00:37:24,479
"Yeah, it goes
better. "You know?

808
00:37:24,545 --> 00:37:26,112


809
00:37:26,179 --> 00:37:28,445


810
00:37:28,512 --> 00:37:31,479
Well, I tell you something
We do it for a while

811
00:37:31,579 --> 00:37:32,979
until we do it once
in some rural cities

812
00:37:33,045 --> 00:37:35,245
in the northern part of New York--
Lake Carmel, Batu Palace.

813
00:37:35,345 --> 00:37:40,012
And we do our hanging
from Barry White

814
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,179
and many people go crazy,
like it.

815
00:37:44,245 --> 00:37:46,079
I think we even lower the body
and start tearing it up.

816
00:37:46,145 --> 00:37:48,645
I mean we will really
just enter into it

817
00:37:48,946 --> 00:37:50,346
And after this show is real
The redneck club owner told us,

818
00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:54,913
"I don't know
Barry White,

819
00:37:55,013 --> 00:37:56,346
but you survive
a nigger in this city,

820
00:37:56,413 --> 00:37:58,046


821
00:37:58,146 --> 00:37:59,580
You are fine in my book. "

822
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,180
You know I'm like,
" What ?! " He said," You hang a Negro.
You can't go wrong! "

823
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,446
It feels like," Damn! "

824
00:38:04,513 --> 00:38:06,213
You know like us -
Long Island,

825
00:38:06,313 --> 00:38:08,946
body, that's what -

826
00:38:09,046 --> 00:38:11,980
so far from our mind.

827
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,580
At a certain level I can laugh
about that and that's absurdity.

828
00:38:14,646 --> 00:38:18,914
Besides that
I'm sick of

829
00:38:18,981 --> 00:38:22,314
and uh the fact that I can
have become part of anything

830
00:38:22,381 --> 00:38:25,614
it will definitely appear
that response by anyone,

831
00:38:25,681 --> 00:38:30,047
the fact that I will bring
negative energy to anyone,

832
00:38:30,147 --> 00:38:32,114


833
00:38:32,181 --> 00:38:34,947
really - you know,
makes me sick

834
00:38:35,047 --> 00:38:37,414
And we immediately stopped it
and continued to advance.

835
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,247
And our antidote to that

836
00:38:39,314 --> 00:38:42,481
to build an electric chair
and Andrea Saute Right

837
00:38:46,948 --> 00:38:50,382
It must be around two months
into our relationship,

838
00:38:50,482 --> 00:38:54,048
and I wear
clothes that Dee was fascinated by.

839
00:38:55,282 --> 00:38:59,082
How beautiful I look
and how beautiful the shirt is,

840
00:38:59,148 --> 00:39:03,348
and where I got it,
and how amazing I looked.

841
00:39:03,415 --> 00:39:05,448
So about two weeks later
I decided

842
00:39:05,448 --> 00:39:06,982
that I will go see him

843
00:39:06,982 --> 00:39:09,148
and I will wear this shirt
that blew it away.

844
00:39:09,215 --> 00:39:12,448
And I will never forget
pull to the bar

845
00:39:12,548 --> 00:39:15,015
And Dee is on stage,

846
00:39:15,082 --> 00:39:19,049
and he uses
The same shirt I wear!

847
00:39:19,116 --> 00:39:20,183
I feel horrified.

848
00:39:20,249 --> 00:39:22,616
I mean,
The worst thing you can imagine,

849
00:39:22,916 --> 00:39:25,416
You go somewhere and someone else
uses what you wear

850
00:39:25,516 --> 00:39:27,083
But your girlfriend?

851
00:39:27,149 --> 00:39:30,383
So I said, "That's it.
I will start making clothes.

852
00:39:30,483 --> 00:39:32,583
And this won't happen same
I'm wearing! "

853
00:39:32,683 --> 00:39:34,216
Suzette humiliates me,
costume

854
00:39:34,283 --> 00:39:35,483


855
00:39:35,549 --> 00:39:37,283


856
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:39,649


857
00:39:39,916 --> 00:39:41,283
I will use whatever he makes,

858
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:43,916
and he made some
silly clothes for me

859
00:39:44,016 --> 00:39:45,917
People used to feel embarrassed.

860
00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:48,417
Eddie will say,
"How can you wear it on stage?

861
00:39:48,484 --> 00:39:50,217
All of your johnson
are hanging out."

862
00:39:50,317 --> 00:39:54,250
I'm like Suzette who made it,
I wear it.

863
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:55,484
At the beginning,

864
00:39:55,584 --> 00:39:58,950
people start
to call me Twisted Sister,

865
00:39:59,017 --> 00:40:03,684
because I am dressed one
up, and the band doesn't.

866
00:40:03,984 --> 00:40:05,917
I know it's not right
with band

867
00:40:06,017 --> 00:40:09,050
Jay Jay comes to me
and Jay Jay confronts me

868
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:12,484
and ask me
if I will start basically

869
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:15,051
make a costume for everyone
in the band.

870
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:16,951
And I told you at all.

871
00:40:17,051 --> 00:40:20,918
And the whole band starts
getting onboard one by one

872
00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:23,951
And slowly I started
teaching everyone in the band

873
00:40:24,051 --> 00:40:25,251
how to make up,
and start doing

874
00:40:25,351 --> 00:40:28,118
everyone's hair -
everyone's clothes

875
00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:34,151
Twisted Sister is designed
to flood the audience.

876
00:40:34,251 --> 00:40:36,985
You know, another band is
just going with music

877
00:40:37,051 --> 00:40:38,618
Well, we also have music.

878
00:40:38,685 --> 00:40:41,118
But what can we do
It has already passed the music?

879
00:40:41,185 --> 00:40:44,552
Well, the glam thing
gives us the costume

880
00:40:44,619 --> 00:40:47,686
and then make-up,
and then if there is a performance,

881
00:40:47,952 --> 00:40:49,386
or other implementations
we can do--

882
00:40:49,452 --> 00:40:52,519
whatever
we can bring to the table

883
00:40:52,586 --> 00:40:56,186
to add weight
towards us

884
00:40:56,252 --> 00:40:57,419
We succeed.

885
00:40:57,486 --> 00:41:00,619
So when another band
will fight us

886
00:41:00,686 --> 00:41:03,386
if you enter,
You know, and you have a bat,

887
00:41:03,486 --> 00:41:07,119
and others have
bats and pistols and knives,

888
00:41:07,186 --> 00:41:08,352
you will lose

889
00:41:08,419 --> 00:41:10,119
So whatever they can do,

890
00:41:10,186 --> 00:41:12,220
we will always find out
how to beat it

891
00:41:12,287 --> 00:41:14,287
I don't know how many
from our music band,

892
00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:16,353
just like us
a predator band

893
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,587
Which one,
Put this fish in water

894
00:41:19,687 --> 00:41:21,487
and give this fish a target,

895
00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:24,187
and say this fish
must kill the fish,

896
00:41:24,253 --> 00:41:27,953
and this fish will come out
there and kill the fish

897
00:41:28,053 --> 00:41:32,087
And I don't care
How insensitive the sound is,

898
00:41:32,187 --> 00:41:35,187
I don't care how, uh...

899
00:41:35,253 --> 00:41:38,987
childish sound,
That's how the band is.

900
00:41:39,053 --> 00:41:40,453
We are very predatory.

901
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,521
And at the bar, it kills or gets killed.

902
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:47,921
Zebras are rumored to be this
band of murderers from New Orleans,

903
00:41:48,021 --> 00:41:51,054
anyone,
You know, dragon killer.

904
00:41:51,154 --> 00:41:54,621
I remember the first day
I saw Twisted, you know,

905
00:41:54,921 --> 00:41:58,188
I've heard of them
but I've never met them

906
00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:01,221
And I expect
this crazy person to enter

907
00:42:01,321 --> 00:42:03,088
and you know they just came
in their jeans

908
00:42:03,188 --> 00:42:04,154
and ordinary clothes.

909
00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:06,954
Maybe a little skin
or something.

910
00:42:07,021 --> 00:42:08,688
But they only dress
normal you know

911
00:42:08,954 --> 00:42:10,422
And I said,
"Oh, this isn't a big deal."

912
00:42:10,522 --> 00:42:14,455
So I remember that night the band
really improved their game,

913
00:42:14,522 --> 00:42:18,455
and everyone is dressed in
and everyone wears makeup.

914
00:42:18,522 --> 00:42:22,155
That night we went down
in our dressing room

915
00:42:22,222 --> 00:42:24,389
and I see Dee coming out
from the locker room

916
00:42:24,455 --> 00:42:27,455
And I don't really know what I wear,

917
00:42:27,522 --> 00:42:31,322
But in my mind it looks
like pink neglige

918
00:42:31,422 --> 00:42:32,589
Poor Zebra,

919
00:42:32,689 --> 00:42:35,322
they are just sort of
a prog band from New Orleans

920
00:42:35,389 --> 00:42:38,422
wearing jeans and t-shirts and very talented bands,

921
00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:41,223
but we just came out
loaded for bears.

922
00:42:41,323 --> 00:42:43,956
And we only destroy them.

923
00:43:06,123 --> 00:43:08,357
That's really crazy,

924
00:43:08,457 --> 00:43:11,524
I mean these Southern children
get real doses

925
00:43:17,924 --> 00:43:21,924
People will come to the show to watch
I and Dee do this tandem skirt,

926
00:43:21,991 --> 00:43:23,291
But what is this ripping doing?
are two things -

927
00:43:23,391 --> 00:43:26,424
it's not just ripping
someone or band,

928
00:43:26,491 --> 00:43:28,691
it is to create an atmosphere
that we are kings

929
00:43:28,957 --> 00:43:31,557
This is our world,
we have this world

930
00:43:31,657 --> 00:43:33,424
We are the number one band in this world.

931
00:43:33,491 --> 00:43:36,691
So we set out to destroy the Rat Race
Choir and Good Mouse

932
00:43:36,958 --> 00:43:38,958
and Zebras and others
You throw in our way.

933
00:43:39,058 --> 00:43:40,658
You know, tell us a band
It's more popular than us,

934
00:43:40,925 --> 00:43:42,658
we will go out,
we will swim out there,

935
00:43:42,958 --> 00:43:43,692
we will eat it

936
00:43:43,958 --> 00:43:46,092
Dee might wake up
every morning with wishes

937
00:43:46,192 --> 00:43:48,325
to destroy me
or make me eat bad luck

938
00:43:48,392 --> 00:43:50,492
or to prove how great
he is fine

939
00:43:50,592 --> 00:43:52,025
I wake up every morning thinking

940
00:43:52,125 --> 00:43:54,392
how will I make more
money by blowing away

941
00:43:54,492 --> 00:43:55,992
this band or the band - okay.

942
00:43:56,058 --> 00:43:59,325
We all have our own property
small mini targets

943
00:44:02,692 --> 00:44:05,092
Sister must be
band type

944
00:44:05,158 --> 00:44:07,659
where you have to be
ready to throw with -

945
00:44:07,926 --> 00:44:09,326
when you're talking
with certain people

946
00:44:09,426 --> 00:44:11,626
about bands and music,

947
00:44:11,926 --> 00:44:14,193
because it's true
there is no middle ground with them.

948
00:44:14,259 --> 00:44:17,493
People really like them
or really hate it.

949
00:44:17,593 --> 00:44:20,059
I bring some
to see them with me

950
00:44:20,126 --> 00:44:21,926
and they basically go
one or two times

951
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:23,226
and that is not for them.

952
00:44:23,326 --> 00:44:25,526
Some of my friends
like the band

953
00:44:25,626 --> 00:44:28,393
Some of my friends aren't
like bands.

954
00:44:28,493 --> 00:44:30,626
Some of my friends really
hate bands

955
00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:35,294
One of these friends decided
that he thought I was really

956
00:44:35,394 --> 00:44:36,660
sort of lost my mind,

957
00:44:36,927 --> 00:44:38,694
like really losing my mind
for facts

958
00:44:38,994 --> 00:44:42,394
that I will go three or four
consecutive nights and he--

959
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:45,594
We are included in this big argument
One day in front of my house.

960
00:44:45,694 --> 00:44:48,927
And we really have
in fistfight.

961
00:44:49,027 --> 00:44:51,260
As I beat him.

962
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
What do you think
are you gay or something?

963
00:44:53,627 --> 00:44:58,060
You follow a group of people
wearing makeup and women's clothing?

964
00:44:58,127 --> 00:45:01,527
I say basically fuc - go see
them and judge for yourself

965
00:45:01,627 --> 00:45:03,995
I am very excited
about what I do

966
00:45:04,061 --> 00:45:06,028
No one shares that passion...

967
00:45:06,095 --> 00:45:08,195
with me and be it.

968
00:45:08,295 --> 00:45:10,228
I don't ask anyone to do it.

969
00:45:10,295 --> 00:45:13,161
What I'm trying to say to them is that
you don't know what's missing.

970
00:45:14,561 --> 00:45:19,561
From February '76 to August '78
there was no rest

971
00:45:19,628 --> 00:45:20,928
Five or six days a week,

972
00:45:21,028 --> 00:45:24,495
every week, playing perfectly,
every show

973
00:45:25,495 --> 00:45:27,628
We started playing
called Speaks,

974
00:45:27,928 --> 00:45:31,261
held, I think,
more than 2,000 people.

975
00:45:31,328 --> 00:45:33,629
And they will be like
shoulder to shoulder,

976
00:45:33,696 --> 00:45:36,162
I mean really jam packed,

977
00:45:36,262 --> 00:45:39,429
and people outside are waiting
to enter to see the band.

978
00:45:39,529 --> 00:45:42,296
That's very interesting.

979
00:45:42,396 --> 00:45:44,329
During this time,

980
00:45:44,429 --> 00:45:47,629
I have got a drink,
like, worse and worse

981
00:45:47,929 --> 00:45:50,062
I'll wake up
2:00 p.m.

982
00:45:50,129 --> 00:45:53,629
But at 4:00 in the afternoon
I've started drinking.

983
00:45:53,929 --> 00:45:56,496
Often times
is like depending on,

984
00:45:56,562 --> 00:45:58,229
what they call
white-knuckling.

985
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:12,163
When I have passed
SMA

986
00:46:12,263 --> 00:46:14,130
I was playing
nightclub in the band.

987
00:46:14,197 --> 00:46:16,230
Do all the copy music
at that time.

988
00:46:16,297 --> 00:46:19,263
One day a drummer with the name
from Fred Enoch told me,

989
00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:21,597
He said, "I brought an
audition with a band

990
00:46:21,697 --> 00:46:23,463
" It travels around the world and
makes albums and everything. "

991
00:46:23,563 --> 00:46:24,930
" Okay, what's wrong? " And he goes,
" This is called The Dictators. "

992
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:26,330
Who?

993
00:46:26,397 --> 00:46:27,930
" Dictator Dictator. "

994
00:46:27,997 --> 00:46:29,297
Never heard of it.

995
00:46:29,363 --> 00:46:30,964
He brought me an album,
and I saw the cover

996
00:46:31,064 --> 00:46:34,298
and I was horrified.

997
00:46:34,364 --> 00:46:35,398


998
00:46:35,498 --> 00:46:38,131
I don't believe
that someone will have a man

999
00:46:38,231 --> 00:46:40,064
as a singer who can't sing.

1000
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:41,998
That's more
like special effects.

1001
00:46:42,064 --> 00:46:44,364
But I don't know anything from punk rock at that time.

1002
00:46:44,431 --> 00:46:46,698
I don't know all of that
is in town,

1003
00:46:46,964 --> 00:46:48,631
I have never gone to New York

1004
00:46:48,698 --> 00:46:50,464
something must be done
with the music scene there.

1005
00:46:50,564 --> 00:46:52,698
Short story,

1006
00:46:52,964 --> 00:46:57,198
I spent about 2 1/2 years in the dictator and it was enough.

1007
00:46:57,264 --> 00:46:58,331
I left the band.

1008
00:46:58,398 --> 00:47:01,065
And I have become a good friend
with the people on Twisted Sister.

1009
00:47:01,132 --> 00:47:05,232
So they say so
tour this great summer club.

1010
00:47:05,332 --> 00:47:09,599
They will be very busy and
they need help with the crew.

1011
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,699
I said, "Okay, I leave a band
and I run out of work.

1012
00:47:11,699 --> 00:47:12,932
I'll do it, why not?"  Summer '78 is our big -

1013
00:47:12,999 --> 00:47:16,099
first very large
summer statement,

1014
00:47:16,165 --> 00:47:18,532
that we are a band
to be reckoned with.

1015
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:20,499
We are a home band
in Speaks.

1016
00:47:20,565 --> 00:47:22,132
We are a home band
in the Hamptons.

1017
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,032
That is very important.

1018
00:47:24,132 --> 00:47:25,932
We issue a large calendar
in the newspaper--

1019
00:47:26,032 --> 00:47:28,199
Summer Of '78 Tour,
we call it.

1020
00:47:28,265 --> 00:47:30,933
We can
to order it first.

1021
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,933


1022
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,466
And the target is,

1023
00:47:34,566 --> 00:47:36,366
that we will play
Calderone,

1024
00:47:36,433 --> 00:47:39,533
theater in Hempstead,
Halloween.

1025
00:47:39,633 --> 00:47:42,200
I operate a theater
on Long Island calling

1026
00:47:42,266 --> 00:47:43,600
Calderone Concert Room.

1027
00:47:43,666 --> 00:47:45,566
That's one
where we work.

1028
00:47:45,666 --> 00:47:47,666
I met the band.

1029
00:47:47,933 --> 00:47:50,133
We have to discuss staging,
lighting, sound

1030
00:47:50,233 --> 00:47:52,666
They don't play
on the theater stage before.

1031
00:47:52,933 --> 00:47:55,633
Um, I work together
with Jay Jay at that time

1032
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:57,701
in making all preparations.

1033
00:47:57,967 --> 00:48:00,367
Jay Jay wants to use it
as a showcase

1034
00:48:00,434 --> 00:48:03,367
to try and bring
some record companies out.

1035
00:48:06,201 --> 00:48:08,601
The idea of Calderone
is a statement

1036
00:48:08,701 --> 00:48:11,134
That will be original music,
and we will

1037
00:48:11,234 --> 00:48:12,467
Show that we can sell it
a theater

1038
00:48:12,534 --> 00:48:15,334
We don't have transaction records.
This is important  We have a large number of amps
to make a statement

1039
00:48:16,634 --> 00:48:20,134
the Twisted Sister
must be taken into account,

1040
00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:22,567
with Black Sabbath
and anyone

1041
00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:24,467
Because we carry
artillery

1042
00:48:24,534 --> 00:48:26,367
We want
to adjust every square inch -

1043
00:48:26,434 --> 00:48:27,935
and by the way - most of the
are installed

1044
00:48:28,035 --> 00:48:30,268
♪ All right, I feel like jumping '♪

1045
00:48:30,335 --> 00:48:31,702
♪ And walk right
the door ♪

1046
00:48:32,002 --> 00:48:34,602


1047
00:48:36,202 --> 00:48:37,668
♪ You can't stop shakin '♪

1048
00:48:37,935 --> 00:48:40,468
♪ Goin 'to save legs
stompin' floor ♪

1049
00:48:40,535 --> 00:48:43,002
The show itself was sold out.

1050
00:48:43,102 --> 00:48:49,635
We performed that night and that
was an eye-opening experience.

1051
00:48:49,935 --> 00:48:53,535
You know,
I remember coming from the stage

1052
00:48:53,635 --> 00:48:56,369
full of wind and fatigue,
really run.

1053
00:48:56,436 --> 00:48:57,703
Pain like you get
from running

1054
00:48:58,003 --> 00:48:59,003
And I can't understand it.

1055
00:48:59,103 --> 00:49:00,403
I have never
that experience before

1056
00:49:00,469 --> 00:49:03,469
It turns out we were
on stage for more than 2 1/2 hours,

1057
00:49:03,569 --> 00:49:05,069
which is crazy

1058
00:49:05,169 --> 00:49:06,303
But we don't have a concept.

1059
00:49:06,403 --> 00:49:07,936
We just put every song we know

1060
00:49:08,036 --> 00:49:09,703
on a piece of paper and only play it.

1061
00:49:09,969 --> 00:49:12,669
By the time I was finished
Aerosmith at Madison Square Garden

1062
00:49:12,936 --> 00:49:18,236
Black Sabbath, Kiss--
many good performance bands.

1063
00:49:18,336 --> 00:49:23,503
And what I saw happened to that
stage with the audience,

1064
00:49:23,603 --> 00:49:28,237
is something I can
It may have been seen five times.

1065
00:49:30,670 --> 00:49:32,670
So the Calderone event takes off

1066
00:49:32,937 --> 00:49:36,570
and the phone rings
The next day.

1067
00:49:36,670 --> 00:49:38,304
And that's Kenny.

1068
00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:39,704
And he said
are you sitting?

1069
00:49:40,004 --> 00:49:41,437
And I said...

1070
00:49:41,504 --> 00:49:43,070
"Why?"
I thought he would go
to tell me

1071
00:49:43,137 --> 00:49:44,470
he married his girlfriend,
Carol.

1072
00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:45,470
And he said,

1073
00:49:45,570 --> 00:49:48,970
"Well, I have to tell you
that I have to leave the band."

1074
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:51,104
And I said,
"What are you talking about?"

1075
00:49:54,638 --> 00:49:57,571
So I finally decided
to try one of them

1076
00:49:57,671 --> 00:49:59,438
popular recovery program

1077
00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:04,271
And I started to get my brain
back and started, uh...

1078
00:50:04,338 --> 00:50:06,938
being... aware.

1079
00:50:09,038 --> 00:50:10,571
This is also like a spiritual program

1080
00:50:10,671 --> 00:50:12,405
So I started thinking

1081
00:50:12,471 --> 00:50:15,138
Maybe there is something
more out there

1082
00:50:15,205 --> 00:50:16,605
So I have a few of my friends

1083
00:50:16,705 --> 00:50:20,138
who are in the program, like in
my same age group and all that,

1084
00:50:20,205 --> 00:50:22,171
who has become a believer.

1085
00:50:24,472 --> 00:50:27,472
Kenny, as much as you know,

1086
00:50:27,539 --> 00:50:31,539
reformed alcohol,
they are reborn.

1087
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:33,372
And after a few months

1088
00:50:33,439 --> 00:50:35,472
I feel like I'm
leading a double life

1089
00:50:35,539 --> 00:50:37,572
Because I have this item
here,

1090
00:50:37,672 --> 00:50:41,506
with my new Christian friends,
plus I like the band.

1091
00:50:41,572 --> 00:50:44,039
And I started to really think

1092
00:50:44,139 --> 00:50:46,439
Maybe it's indeed
time to continue

1093
00:50:49,106 --> 00:50:50,939
And I remember one
night at Zaffy's

1094
00:50:51,006 --> 00:50:55,973
Kenny flopped
Dais, his church,

1095
00:50:56,073 --> 00:50:58,173
about half a dozen
people enter,

1096
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,973
see the band,

1097
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,307
and he wants their verdict
to be in Twisted Sister

1098
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:06,673
contrary to him
being a Christian

1099
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:09,107
And they say that,

1100
00:51:09,173 --> 00:51:14,507
Satan speaks through some of my songs and Jay Jay's mouth.

1101
00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:20,040
And yes,
is a direct conflict

1102
00:51:20,107 --> 00:51:21,274
and that he must go.

1103
00:51:23,608 --> 00:51:26,174
And, remember, you are still
very on track -

1104
00:51:26,241 --> 00:51:28,274
we go
to the top of the mountain

1105
00:51:28,341 --> 00:51:29,674
Wait a minute!

1106
00:51:29,974 --> 00:51:31,974
You leave the band
and you tell me

1107
00:51:32,041 --> 00:51:33,108
you leave us
because they say

1108
00:51:33,174 --> 00:51:35,241
Devils talk through me
and Dee?
Let me understand this.

1109
00:51:35,341 --> 00:51:37,441
Dee and I don't drink.
Dee and I don't smoke.

1110
00:51:37,508 --> 00:51:39,608
Dee and I don't do it
any medicine

1111
00:51:39,674 --> 00:51:40,974
You are an alcoholic,

1112
00:51:41,041 --> 00:51:42,541
but the Devil speaks
through me and Dee.

1113
00:51:42,608 --> 00:51:43,574
Is that what you say?

1114
00:51:43,674 --> 00:51:45,541
I want to really get this
straight

1115
00:51:45,608 --> 00:51:47,441
"Well I know it's a bit
sounds weird..."

1116
00:51:47,541 --> 00:51:50,242
Yes!
That sounds
strange, Kenny!

1117
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:52,342
I don't trip.

1118
00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:53,609
I have no idea
what are you talking about

1119
00:51:53,609 --> 00:51:54,342
I am a player.

1120
00:51:54,342 --> 00:51:55,642
I went there
and I did schtick.

1121
00:51:55,642 --> 00:51:57,642
I do a show - anything.

1122
00:51:57,942 --> 00:51:59,709
So I tried to talk to him
out of it

1123
00:51:59,975 --> 00:52:02,209
And I kind of made a breakthrough
in looking after him

1124
00:52:04,242 --> 00:52:08,209
So one day in Speaks,
my drummer, Tony, entered,

1125
00:52:08,275 --> 00:52:11,375
and he bandaged it
arms, and I went, "What is that?"

1126
00:52:11,442 --> 00:52:14,075
And he left,
"This is my new tattoo."

1127
00:52:14,142 --> 00:52:15,442
And I go, "What's wrong?"

1128
00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,942
and he pulls sideways and it's
like devils or the like

1129
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:20,310
And I'm like,
"Oh good, what about this cliche?"

1130
00:52:20,410 --> 00:52:23,310
And then he left,
"You know Mike Bruno, he did it.

1131
00:52:23,410 --> 00:52:25,310
Mike, why didn't you show it?
Your tattoo band?"

1132
00:52:25,376 --> 00:52:28,210
And Bruno takes off his clothes
and his entire back is Demon.

1133
00:52:28,276 --> 00:52:31,143
And I saw Kenny leave,
"You won.

1134
00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:35,276
I think there are
Devils worship."

1135
00:52:35,343 --> 00:52:36,476
Good.
You know?

1136
00:52:36,543 --> 00:52:38,276
That's a bit like
what would you say?

1137
00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:48,377
Right before Thanksgiving,

1138
00:52:48,444 --> 00:52:51,177
we have done it
a Saturday night program somewhere

1139
00:52:51,277 --> 00:52:54,211
and we all go home.
And the phone rings in my house,

1140
00:52:54,311 --> 00:52:55,377
and I'm just
about falling asleep.

1141
00:52:55,444 --> 00:52:57,977
It is currently around 8:00 or 9:00 am,
on Sunday morning.

1142
00:52:58,044 --> 00:53:01,177
And I wake up and it's Jay Jay French.

1143
00:53:01,244 --> 00:53:03,111
And he said to me, "Are you?
Still looking for a band?"

1144
00:53:03,111 --> 00:53:04,211
And I said, "Yes, of course."

1145
00:53:04,311 --> 00:53:06,344
I say, "You know it's fun
work with you

1146
00:53:06,444 --> 00:53:07,611
But I prefer to be a musician."

1147
00:53:07,677 --> 00:53:09,577
And he left,
"I have a band for you."

1148
00:53:09,644 --> 00:53:12,277
I say, "Okay, who is that?"
And he left, "Twisted Sister."

1149
00:53:12,377 --> 00:53:14,111
And I said, "You know,
Don't play with me like that."

1150
00:53:14,211 --> 00:53:15,311
And he goes,
"No, no, I'm serious.

1151
00:53:15,311 --> 00:53:18,945
Kenny stops, and we need
bass player
Do you want it?"

1152
00:53:18,945 --> 00:53:20,678
And I said, "Yes, I will do it
Take it," just like that.

1153
00:53:20,678 --> 00:53:23,545
He said, "Okay, talk to you
later." Click and he hung up.

1154
00:53:23,612 --> 00:53:28,178
Mark is very similar to me.

1155
00:53:28,278 --> 00:53:31,278
We are closer.
He is a year younger than me.

1156
00:53:31,345 --> 00:53:33,245
We are both from the suburbs
Long Island.

1157
00:53:33,312 --> 00:53:36,412
We only live a few
cities away from each other.

1158
00:53:36,478 --> 00:53:42,345
We grow up with
suburban men, bicycle men.

1159
00:53:42,412 --> 00:53:45,512
We are musically connected
for the same thing

1160
00:53:45,613 --> 00:53:47,413
Finally there is
someone in the band

1161
00:53:47,513 --> 00:53:49,713
who is my partner in crime

1162
00:53:49,979 --> 00:53:53,013
I have to tell you,
when Mark enters,

1163
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,479
who just finished
Dee metamorphosis.

1164
00:53:55,546 --> 00:53:59,146
What Kenny can't do, that's what Mark finally did.

1165
00:53:59,213 --> 00:54:02,146
Dee's music feels heavy
But Kenny is finessing it.

1166
00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:05,179
Mark is like that
knock it to 747

1167
00:54:05,279 --> 00:54:06,446
and ramming it
through terminal

1168
00:54:21,447 --> 00:54:24,514
♪ Often you move me ♪

1169
00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:27,614
♪ When I know you care deeply ♪

1170
00:54:31,247 --> 00:54:33,647
♪ I know that you will be there ♪

1171
00:54:33,714 --> 00:54:37,114
♪ But I can't let you
out that door ♪

1172
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:41,180
♪ I can't let you
say goodbye ♪

1173
00:54:41,247 --> 00:54:44,181
♪ And I can't let you
out that door ♪

1174
00:54:44,248 --> 00:54:48,015
♪ I can't let you,
You know I'm crying, I'm crying... ♪

1175
00:54:48,081 --> 00:54:50,315
I have now managed
bands, uh,

1176
00:54:50,381 --> 00:54:54,448
itself since we were reformed in '75.

1177
00:54:54,515 --> 00:54:57,448
And I found it
grind everyday

1178
00:54:57,515 --> 00:54:59,648
playing and managing
becomes impossible

1179
00:54:59,715 --> 00:55:03,015
He doesn't sleep at all
he - it's very tiring,

1180
00:55:03,115 --> 00:55:05,115
he almost has
physical disturbances

1181
00:55:05,181 --> 00:55:08,315
So I said, "Do you want me?
to help you find a manager?"

1182
00:55:08,415 --> 00:55:09,715
And he said,
"That would be great."

1183
00:55:09,981 --> 00:55:11,715
I started dealing with people

1184
00:55:11,981 --> 00:55:13,216
and tell them
about this band,

1185
00:55:13,316 --> 00:55:17,149
people I think
have management skills.

1186
00:55:17,216 --> 00:55:20,482
And one by one
they just say, "No."

1187
00:55:20,582 --> 00:55:23,649
And Jay told me one day,
"Well, why don't you do it?"

1188
00:55:23,949 --> 00:55:26,149
I said, "Okay, I'm not
A Manager.
I'm a promoter."

1189
00:55:26,249 --> 00:55:30,082
And he said, "Okay, it's over
more for us than the other people have.

1190
00:55:30,149 --> 00:55:33,249
We will take a shot
if you want."

1191
00:55:33,316 --> 00:55:36,582
So I give some thoughts and, uh,
go to business management

1192
00:55:39,582 --> 00:55:41,349
We never played in Manhattan...

1193
00:55:41,449 --> 00:55:42,683
for various reasons.

1194
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:48,417
Clubs in Manhattan
are small and they don't pay.

1195
00:55:48,483 --> 00:55:51,217
They think so
Help this band

1196
00:55:51,283 --> 00:55:52,483
to allow you to play there.

1197
00:55:52,583 --> 00:55:54,583
And we think...

1198
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:56,117
we are too good for them

1199
00:55:59,383 --> 00:56:01,150
If you look at a map,
I mean, what are we like?

1200
00:56:01,250 --> 00:56:03,017
We are 20 miles from CBGBs?

1201
00:56:03,117 --> 00:56:05,083
We might as well
1,000 miles away, right?

1202
00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:06,583
There is no cross

1203
00:56:06,683 --> 00:56:09,017
Sometimes our fans
will go into the city

1204
00:56:09,117 --> 00:56:12,218
and return with the words
from the front.

1205
00:56:12,284 --> 00:56:14,318
Like, "Oh yes,
We are at the Mudd Club

1206
00:56:14,384 --> 00:56:16,351
" or we see
this band tonight

1207
00:56:16,451 --> 00:56:18,384
and we see Ramones
or whatever. "

1208
00:56:18,451 --> 00:56:21,284
I will go," Yes, how many people
Do they pack in that place? "

1209
00:56:21,351 --> 00:56:24,118
In knowing them
in the field of management,

1210
00:56:24,218 --> 00:56:27,584
I will go out to see the show
and I will realize

1211
00:56:27,651 --> 00:56:29,951
Long Island
the fight is sold out,

1212
00:56:30,018 --> 00:56:33,118
2,000 people, 500 people queue
who is can't enter

1213
00:56:33,218 --> 00:56:35,518
Same thing in New Jersey,
same in Westchester

1214
00:56:35,618 --> 00:56:38,718
They have suburbs
really dominated.

1215
00:56:39,018 --> 00:56:40,619
And I feel
nothing really

1216
00:56:40,685 --> 00:56:42,219
give them time.

1217
00:56:42,285 --> 00:56:46,485
So my strategy appears
with is to attract them

1218
00:56:46,585 --> 00:56:49,185
out of place during a period of
from several months

1219
00:56:49,285 --> 00:56:52,085
and then only do one
show in Manhattan.

1220
00:56:52,185 --> 00:56:56,219
The main place
in New York City is The Palladium.

1221
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:59,185
And I think it's
more than 3,000 or 3,200 -

1222
00:56:59,252 --> 00:57:00,619
it's bigger
than Calderone.

1223
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,352
And that is true in the heart of the recording industry  So I called Ron Delsner
a friend, but a competitor,

1224
00:57:04,419 --> 00:57:07,952
and I say, "I have a band

1225
00:57:08,019 --> 00:57:09,553
that I manage what I want
to play Palladium."

1226
00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:12,686


1227
00:57:12,953 --> 00:57:14,186
And he said, "Who are they?"

1228
00:57:14,286 --> 00:57:15,553
And I said, "Twisted Sister."

1229
00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:17,586
And he said,
"What date do you want?"

1230
00:57:17,686 --> 00:57:21,453
The show will go on sale
on Tuesday

1231
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,320
And he called me
on Tuesday afternoon

1232
00:57:23,386 --> 00:57:27,720
and he said,
"Do you advertise the show?"

1233
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:29,553
I said, "There's no Ronnie, it's your show

1234
00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:32,620
I won't
advertise your show
Why?"

1235
00:57:32,686 --> 00:57:34,520
He said,
"There are 1,110 seats sold.

1236
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:38,454
This goes on sale at noon today,
We don't even break the ad."

1237
00:57:38,521 --> 00:57:41,121
And the next day the ad broke
in "Village Sounds"

1238
00:57:41,187 --> 00:57:44,621
and the know-it-all industry,
who is in the cool scene,

1239
00:57:44,687 --> 00:57:46,287
chuckles,

1240
00:57:46,354 --> 00:57:48,554
"Watch, next week
will say" canceled "

1241
00:57:48,621 --> 00:57:51,487
And on Thursday
it's sold out

1242
00:57:51,554 --> 00:57:54,254
And next week he says,
" sold out. "

1243
00:57:57,254 --> 00:58:00,154
To order Palladium,
sell palladium,

1244
00:58:00,221 --> 00:58:04,487
in the heart of New York
basically just...

1245
00:58:05,287 --> 00:58:08,388
The fact that Twisted Sister
sold out Palladium

1246
00:58:08,488 --> 00:58:11,655
without a record deal -

1247
00:58:11,722 --> 00:58:14,388
You know, it's really cemented
In everyone's mind,

1248
00:58:14,455 --> 00:58:15,522
These people are rock stars!

1249
00:58:15,622 --> 00:58:18,422
Playing Palladium
It should be the last step

1250
00:58:18,488 --> 00:58:21,655
on the road to superstardom

1251
00:58:21,722 --> 00:58:24,488
The next step is
a big record deal,

1252
00:58:24,555 --> 00:58:27,022
world tour,
world domination.

1253
00:58:27,088 --> 00:58:28,722
It must be perfect.

1254
00:58:29,022 --> 00:58:30,588
That's right.

1255
00:58:30,688 --> 00:58:34,088
Staging, lighting,
new costumes,

1256
00:58:34,188 --> 00:58:37,289
practice at the
facility that we can do full lights,

1257
00:58:37,356 --> 00:58:39,489
full voice, full staging.

1258
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:42,089
So we have to rent
SIR's biggest room.

1259
00:58:42,189 --> 00:58:44,289
We even rent Palladium

1260
00:58:44,389 --> 00:58:47,723
for rehearsals
the day before the show

1261
00:58:47,989 --> 00:58:49,956
This will be that.
Every record label comes,

1262
00:58:50,023 --> 00:58:54,256
and we have
blurbs in newspapers - big deal.

1263
00:58:54,323 --> 00:58:57,556
And then during exercise -
dress rehearsal

1264
00:58:57,623 --> 00:59:00,623
on palladium--
disaster hit

1265
00:59:00,723 --> 00:59:02,423
I went down trying
to get ready

1266
00:59:02,489 --> 00:59:04,457
and I just,
I don't even remember,

1267
00:59:04,557 --> 00:59:08,124
I just fainted.
I think my head hit something.

1268
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:10,357
They look for me
and I am downstairs,

1269
00:59:10,424 --> 00:59:13,090
You know,
I experienced a grand mal seizure.

1270
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:19,357
The next thing I know
I'm in an ambulance.

1271
00:59:19,424 --> 00:59:21,657
The human I feel -

1272
00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:24,390
like I was shot from a canon
then thrown

1273
00:59:24,457 --> 00:59:27,124
in a gorilla cage
and has an ape weighing 800 pounds  Defeat my crap.

1274
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:28,590
The show is postponed.

1275
00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:30,057
Because they can't do it
without me.

1276
00:59:30,157 --> 00:59:32,290


1277
00:59:33,591 --> 00:59:36,191
Man, you make a plan
and you take a hit

1278
00:59:36,258 --> 00:59:37,191
and that's very devastating.

1279
00:59:37,258 --> 00:59:39,125
I mean, it's really destroying  I go for a walk -
how will I come back from this?

1280
00:59:39,191 --> 00:59:42,058
How will we
return from this?

1281
00:59:42,125 --> 00:59:43,358
This is our shot,
this is our chance

1282
00:59:43,458 --> 00:59:45,358
Listen, you do what you do

1283
00:59:45,425 --> 00:59:47,958
You lift yourself up,
dust yourself,

1284
00:59:48,058 --> 00:59:49,958
the spandex rope returns to light
and returns to it.

1285
00:59:50,025 --> 00:59:51,691
♪ They say, hey how are you doing
do with your life ♪

1286
00:59:57,625 --> 01:00:03,626
♪ Why don't you settle... ♪

1287
01:00:03,692 --> 01:00:06,126


1288
01:00:06,192 --> 01:00:08,226
Nobody wants it to end.

1289
01:00:08,326 --> 01:00:10,192
We are all proud.

1290
01:00:10,292 --> 01:00:13,192
This band, you know, is grateful.

1291
01:00:13,292 --> 01:00:16,226
They are given electricity.
They are tired.

1292
01:00:16,292 --> 01:00:19,259
And we know,
shows for life

1293
01:00:19,626 --> 01:00:20,659
♪ I say ♪

1294
01:00:20,959 --> 01:00:26,726
♪ I will never grow up,
I will never grow up.
♪

1295
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,460
We are rescheduled,
record label,

1296
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,093
basically all who are supposed to come, don't come.

1297
01:00:41,193 --> 01:00:45,593
Instead of now the head
A & R department is there,

1298
01:00:45,693 --> 01:00:47,627
the audience is filled
with their secretary

1299
01:00:47,727 --> 01:00:49,393
and their assistant

1300
01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:51,093
Within a month
people see us

1301
01:00:51,193 --> 01:00:53,293
with a large Marshall stack

1302
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,460
and costumes
and staging,

1303
01:00:55,527 --> 01:00:57,660
and say we are past.

1304
01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:00,594
We miss our opening.

1305
01:01:01,661 --> 01:01:05,561
One person who is interested again

1306
01:01:05,661 --> 01:01:08,461
is Epic Records--
Lennie Pizzi,

1307
01:01:08,561 --> 01:01:10,094
head of Epic Records.

1308
01:01:10,161 --> 01:01:12,494
Now Lennie, again,

1309
01:01:12,561 --> 01:01:14,328
he has sent his secretary
or his assistant,

1310
01:01:14,428 --> 01:01:16,161
so he needs to see it
for himself.

1311
01:01:16,228 --> 01:01:20,461
Now we can offer
limousine rides to rooms that are packed every night.

1312
01:01:20,561 --> 01:01:22,561
But no, this must happen
in New York City

1313
01:01:22,628 --> 01:01:24,194
at lunchtime
on Monday

1314
01:01:24,261 --> 01:01:25,694
Here it is, head
from Epic Records

1315
01:01:25,961 --> 01:01:28,094
want to see the same show

1316
01:01:28,161 --> 01:01:29,495
which we have just used
on palladium.

1317
01:01:29,595 --> 01:01:31,329
We agree.

1318
01:01:31,395 --> 01:01:34,362
That makes me sick because you know
on Monday we go

1319
01:01:34,429 --> 01:01:36,162
Monday means we have to come
on Sunday night,

1320
01:01:36,262 --> 01:01:37,195
preparing for the show

1321
01:01:37,262 --> 01:01:40,995
He will come at noon
or 1:00 at lunch time.

1322
01:01:41,062 --> 01:01:42,662
It's embarrassing.
But we agree.

1323
01:01:42,729 --> 01:01:44,395
So what do we do?

1324
01:01:44,462 --> 01:01:47,195
We rent SIR--
we rent all the equipment,

1325
01:01:47,295 --> 01:01:51,062
sounds, lights,
staging, everything--

1326
01:01:51,162 --> 01:01:54,095
and perform
shows for Lennie Pizzi at--

1327
01:01:54,195 --> 01:01:56,162
is it 11:00 in the morning?

1328
01:01:56,229 --> 01:01:57,962
That's in...

1329
01:01:58,062 --> 01:02:00,496
It was dawn at that time
Twisted sisters were concerned.

1330
01:02:00,596 --> 01:02:02,963
And he entered.

1331
01:02:03,030 --> 01:02:04,396
And understanding,

1332
01:02:04,463 --> 01:02:06,463
they go
to pay us fees,

1333
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:07,996
he will pay for the show

1334
01:02:08,063 --> 01:02:10,230
I think around 12:00 or 1:00,
Lenny entered,

1335
01:02:10,296 --> 01:02:13,163
The door opens on the back
SIR, there is one chair.

1336
01:02:13,263 --> 01:02:14,396
He sits on a chair.

1337
01:02:14,463 --> 01:02:16,296
We play as a whole
Palladium shows.

1338
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:27,397
We finish the show,
he is not there

1339
01:02:27,464 --> 01:02:30,064
He told our manager
he had another meeting

1340
01:02:30,131 --> 01:02:31,664
We have never heard from him.

1341
01:02:31,964 --> 01:02:33,964
They never pay the money
for performances

1342
01:02:34,064 --> 01:02:35,631
We run out of bags
even more money

1343
01:02:35,731 --> 01:02:41,331
We can't enter
and... we slip.

1344
01:02:44,297 --> 01:02:46,264
As a fan and not an insider

1345
01:02:46,331 --> 01:02:48,464
or someone who works
for bands or with bands,

1346
01:02:48,564 --> 01:02:49,497
You don't know this

1347
01:02:49,564 --> 01:02:53,131
You don't know that
a failure, so to speak.

1348
01:02:53,197 --> 01:02:55,531
Because, you know,

1349
01:02:55,597 --> 01:02:58,198
the next night they
will be in Hammerheads

1350
01:02:58,265 --> 01:03:01,298
or, you know, Detroit,
play again

1351
01:03:03,132 --> 01:03:04,498
Judas Priest!

1352
01:03:07,432 --> 01:03:09,432
Hell Bent For Skin!

1353
01:03:13,232 --> 01:03:14,298
Can you forget
these things?

1354
01:03:14,398 --> 01:03:16,498
Somewhat.
You are playing
five nights a week

1355
01:03:16,565 --> 01:03:18,732
You lick your wounds, huh.

1356
01:03:19,032 --> 01:03:20,098
You can handle it, huh.

1357
01:03:22,198 --> 01:03:24,698
But it still kicks
into the solar plexus.

1358
01:03:25,265 --> 01:03:28,066
♪ Look for him here,
find him on the highway ♪

1359
01:03:28,133 --> 01:03:30,166
♪ Never know
when she will appear ♪

1360
01:03:30,233 --> 01:03:32,599
♪ All waiting,
the machine beats more than ♪

1361
01:03:32,699 --> 01:03:34,699
♪ Hearing the
roar because they feel fear ♪

1362
01:03:34,966 --> 01:03:37,366
♪ Wheels!
♪

1363
01:03:37,433 --> 01:03:39,366
♪ Glare of steel
and flash of light!
♪

1364
01:03:39,466 --> 01:03:41,699
♪ Screams!
♪

1365
01:03:41,966 --> 01:03:44,066
♪ From the line of fire
when he attacks!
♪

1366
01:03:44,133 --> 01:03:46,266
♪ Hell bent,
hell bent to the skin ♪

1367
01:03:48,666 --> 01:03:50,999
♪ Hell bent,
hell bent to the skin... ♪

1368
01:03:53,033 --> 01:03:56,434
I see - I go somewhere.

1369
01:03:56,500 --> 01:04:01,734
And my big stumbling block
Is this a shithole club?

1370
01:04:06,734 --> 01:04:08,167
I hate them.

1371
01:04:08,234 --> 01:04:10,734
They are necessary crimes.
They are hot.

1372
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,634
They are narrow.
The stage is small.

1373
01:04:13,734 --> 01:04:15,967
They don't allow me to do it
what should I do

1374
01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:17,567
They don't treat me
like stars.

1375
01:04:20,967 --> 01:04:22,667
Point to be -

1376
01:04:22,734 --> 01:04:26,568
I will really take
a lot out at this club,

1377
01:04:26,635 --> 01:04:28,568
and I will verbally abuse it
club.

1378
01:04:28,668 --> 01:04:31,301
And if something goes wrong
and something disgusting

1379
01:04:31,368 --> 01:04:35,001
I will let everyone know how much I hate these clubs.

1380
01:04:36,335 --> 01:04:38,035
Dee will panic
on sound proofing,

1381
01:04:38,101 --> 01:04:39,968
and he will expel
from the club during the sound check.

1382
01:04:39,968 --> 01:04:41,201
And I have to go and talk

1383
01:04:41,201 --> 01:04:43,168
for bartenders
and rather cold they come out.

1384
01:04:43,235 --> 01:04:44,635
He will start the
argument with the club owner

1385
01:04:44,735 --> 01:04:46,101
Maybe I will do it
to silence it

1386
01:04:46,168 --> 01:04:48,268
And he is a skinny little man
with, uh,

1387
01:04:48,368 --> 01:04:51,368
40 pounds of hair so you
will sell nonsense from the stage?

1388
01:04:51,435 --> 01:04:53,102
Wait until you get off
stage, buddy

1389
01:04:54,002 --> 01:04:56,036
♪ Hell bent,
hell bent to the skin... ♪

1390
01:04:56,136 --> 01:04:57,469
I keep running
disorders

1391
01:04:57,536 --> 01:05:01,169
for Dee bull head,
silly behavior

1392
01:05:01,236 --> 01:05:05,169
Keep you sick
bastards!

1393
01:05:05,269 --> 01:05:06,969
But they are all
really stupid

1394
01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:08,436
The crew does stupid things.

1395
01:05:08,502 --> 01:05:11,736
And as a manager
who has to make phone calls,

1396
01:05:12,036 --> 01:05:13,736
must order the truck,
open lighting equipment

1397
01:05:14,036 --> 01:05:15,502
I will say one thing about that,

1398
01:05:15,569 --> 01:05:17,402
because I do
that every day,

1399
01:05:17,502 --> 01:05:18,969
because I can't sleep,

1400
01:05:18,969 --> 01:05:20,336
because I have to
wake up in the morning

1401
01:05:20,336 --> 01:05:22,270
and talk to trucks
company, lighting company,

1402
01:05:22,270 --> 01:05:25,003
dealing with battles
with the crew,

1403
01:05:25,070 --> 01:05:26,237
dealing with battles
with bands,

1404
01:05:26,303 --> 01:05:28,503
dealing with battles
with agents,

1405
01:05:28,570 --> 01:05:30,137
dealing with agents
and club owners,

1406
01:05:30,203 --> 01:05:32,670
I can never be
a rock star

1407
01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:35,170
I have been robbed
my rock star

1408
01:05:35,303 --> 01:05:38,070
And I said, "Now you understand
you're a road manager

1409
01:05:38,170 --> 01:05:40,503
who will handle these people,
I won't be there.

1410
01:05:40,603 --> 01:05:42,403
I don't want to call
3:00 a.m.

1411
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:45,970
when someone does not want
to pay you, or whatever it is. "

1412
01:05:46,070 --> 01:05:47,103
So I brought Joe in

1413
01:05:47,203 --> 01:05:49,570
So now we have Mark Puma
and we have Joe Gerber.

1414
01:05:49,637 --> 01:05:53,171
So we are like - there is
a support system there. because

1415
01:05:53,238 --> 01:05:56,171
All he does is he who submits me
Kevin Brenner's phone number--

1416
01:05:56,238 --> 01:05:58,171
agent--

1417
01:05:58,271 --> 01:05:59,271
a bag of receipts,

1418
01:06:01,404 --> 01:06:03,671
some looseleaf pages
future date,

1419
01:06:03,738 --> 01:06:07,471
and says, "Good luck "

1420
01:06:07,571 --> 01:06:10,238
And so.

1421
01:06:10,304 --> 01:06:11,571
And I have to do it
find out for yourself.

1422
01:06:11,671 --> 01:06:15,204


1423
01:06:15,304 --> 01:06:18,171
The half -
both terror and pleasure.

1424
01:06:18,238 --> 01:06:20,005
But you know,
Fear is a great motivator.

1425
01:06:22,472 --> 01:06:24,205
Here it is, baby!

1426
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:30,072
So licking our wounds now
we leave from April, May, June.

1427
01:06:30,139 --> 01:06:34,339
However, we heard it
that there was a concert format

1428
01:06:34,405 --> 01:06:36,405
at Adventureland Amusement Park.

1429
01:06:36,505 --> 01:06:39,172
And they will have the biggest
band on Long Island

1430
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:42,205
play every Tuesday night
for a month.

1431
01:06:42,305 --> 01:06:44,405
We rent airplanes and fly them
over Jones Beach

1432
01:06:44,472 --> 01:06:46,039
July 4 weeks said,

1433
01:06:46,105 --> 01:06:48,205
"Twisted Sister Free Concert,
Adventureland."

1434
01:06:48,306 --> 01:06:51,006
A week before Zebra did it
about 6,000 people, I think,

1435
01:06:51,073 --> 01:06:53,240
think promoters
6 or 7,000 people appear.

1436
01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:54,506
I think we also do it.

1437
01:06:54,606 --> 01:06:57,573
I call one of my friends
and say, "Come on, the program is free.  We can't understand
from where the traffic is.

1438
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,073
Never expect thousands and thousands of people.

1439
01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:02,506
Three to five miles
in both directions.

1440
01:07:02,606 --> 01:07:04,440
The car has just been left
on the side of the road.

1441
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:08,540
We are so far
behind,

1442
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,573


1443
01:07:10,673 --> 01:07:13,106


1444
01:07:13,173 --> 01:07:14,340


1445
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,707
People are above the building
to watch the show

1446
01:07:17,974 --> 01:07:19,307
That is a zoo.

1447
01:07:21,741 --> 01:07:23,607
And I, "So how do I look out there?"

1448
01:07:23,707 --> 01:07:25,241
And white Joe.

1449
01:07:25,341 --> 01:07:27,007
He is like,
"Look out the window."

1450
01:07:27,074 --> 01:07:31,074
And I see and that
the ocean, the ocean of people!

1451
01:07:44,674 --> 01:07:48,742
There are no 7,000, not 10,000,
not 12,000, not 15,

1452
01:07:49,042 --> 01:07:50,575
But 22,000 people appeared.

1453
01:07:50,675 --> 01:07:55,075
23,000 people according to
According to police estimates,

1454
01:07:55,142 --> 01:07:56,108
waiting to welcome us

1455
01:07:56,208 --> 01:07:59,042
Boys and girls
from all the people we have played -

1456
01:08:08,442 --> 01:08:10,675
There are two floors
office building,

1457
01:08:10,975 --> 01:08:12,508
across the
parking lot from the stage

1458
01:08:12,575 --> 01:08:14,675
Children are hung on it,
are dangerous

1459
01:08:14,742 --> 01:08:17,409
Because nothing is wrong
prevent them from falling.

1460
01:08:17,509 --> 01:08:18,409
We find it later

1461
01:08:18,509 --> 01:08:22,576
there is also a ridiculously
expensive microwave antenna

1462
01:08:22,643 --> 01:08:25,309
that they have bent into their shape
from "T" and "S."

1463
01:08:29,743 --> 01:08:32,576
We put this anti-disco attack
to the point

1464
01:08:32,643 --> 01:08:34,309
where children are running
to Republic Airport,

1465
01:08:34,376 --> 01:08:36,609
painting "Disco Sucks"
on the side of the plane.

1466
01:08:36,676 --> 01:08:38,476
We cause almost riots

1467
01:08:38,543 --> 01:08:41,109
and because of damage
done by our fans,

1468
01:08:41,176 --> 01:08:44,009
we are briefly banned from all outdoor events on Long Island

1469
01:08:44,109 --> 01:08:45,277
since that day.

1470
01:08:47,077 --> 01:08:48,577
Oops!

1471
01:08:50,310 --> 01:08:54,010
You really wake up
in the morning

1472
01:08:54,077 --> 01:08:55,244
You eat

1473
01:08:55,310 --> 01:08:58,344
Often
in summer time

1474
01:08:58,444 --> 01:09:00,077
we will go to the beach,

1475
01:09:00,177 --> 01:09:03,077
we will come back,
we will eat, we will go play,

1476
01:09:03,144 --> 01:09:08,444
and um, we might stay awake
whole night damn

1477
01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:12,244
and go home, fall asleep,
wake up.

1478
01:09:12,310 --> 01:09:16,311
This is a constant five
seven nights a week playing

1479
01:09:16,378 --> 01:09:18,611
and it's just
a constant party

1480
01:09:18,678 --> 01:09:19,678
Because you know other people.

1481
01:09:19,745 --> 01:09:22,045
You don't know
if you will go home or not,

1482
01:09:22,145 --> 01:09:24,211
You will only end
in someone's home

1483
01:09:24,211 --> 01:09:25,178
and go to the next show.

1484
01:09:25,178 --> 01:09:28,445
That's very similar, um,

1485
01:09:28,511 --> 01:09:30,711
"Repeated days."

1486
01:09:30,978 --> 01:09:34,311
The clubs are different,
but the days are the same,

1487
01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:37,678
Repetition is what happens
day after day

1488
01:09:37,745 --> 01:09:40,678
and week after week and month
after months and years after years.

1489
01:09:40,745 --> 01:09:42,579
Already arrived at the club
3:00 o'clock in the afternoon,

1490
01:09:42,646 --> 01:09:45,012
do your voice checking,

1491
01:09:45,112 --> 01:09:48,112
hang out until 10:00 a.m. at night, do your shows,

1492
01:09:48,179 --> 01:09:50,246
return home
at 6:00 in the morning,

1493
01:09:50,346 --> 01:09:53,346
wake up at 1:00 a.m. in the afternoon, take a shower,

1494
01:09:53,412 --> 01:09:54,979
do everything
again.

1495
01:09:55,046 --> 01:09:56,112
Sunday after week after week,

1496
01:09:56,179 --> 01:09:59,646
You play the same song,
three sets, four sets of nights.

1497
01:09:59,712 --> 01:10:01,346
And until Tuesday,
becomes Wednesday,

1498
01:10:01,446 --> 01:10:03,712
be Thursday, Friday,
to Saturday

1499
01:10:03,979 --> 01:10:06,712
I just count down
songs set - five, four...

1500
01:10:07,012 --> 01:10:09,079
Until you close Saturday
night at 6:00 a.m.

1501
01:10:09,179 --> 01:10:11,012
Sunday morning you sleep
all day long.

1502
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:12,447
You have - your relationship

1503
01:10:12,513 --> 01:10:14,513
with your boyfriend messy
because you don't have energy.

1504
01:10:14,613 --> 01:10:16,980
A day off,
two days off and back again.

1505
01:10:17,047 --> 01:10:18,247
I did it for years!

1506
01:10:18,313 --> 01:10:20,713
You know I used to go home
several nights and think,

1507
01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:23,213
"Humans, this never
will end."

1508
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,747
Like this
nightmare

1509
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,480
I will crawl
into the bathtub every morning!

1510
01:10:27,547 --> 01:10:30,013
I will crawl out of bed,
I can't talk.

1511
01:10:30,113 --> 01:10:31,513
Then I crawled right
into the tub.

1512
01:10:31,580 --> 01:10:33,047
And I just fell
into the bathtub -

1513
01:10:33,147 --> 01:10:36,513
a 20 year old man -
and soak in a hot tub

1514
01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:39,647
to make my body loose
so I can do it again!

1515
01:10:39,713 --> 01:10:42,114
We arrived at the stage at that time

1516
01:10:42,214 --> 01:10:43,581
that we are contracted
to ride the stage -

1517
01:10:43,648 --> 01:10:46,281
because this is a discipline
we have as a professional band.

1518
01:10:46,348 --> 01:10:48,481
We play until
we can't play anymore,

1519
01:10:48,581 --> 01:10:50,681
We collapsed on the stage
until nothing was left

1520
01:10:50,981 --> 01:10:53,448
But!

1521
01:10:53,514 --> 01:10:56,514
It tastes really good.
It's a joke,
It feels so good when I stop.

1522
01:10:56,581 --> 01:11:02,114
I am alwa - I love achievement
have blown the crowd.

1523
01:11:02,181 --> 01:11:08,481
This extraordinary desire
to prove to the people who pay

1524
01:11:08,581 --> 01:11:12,082
that we are the greatest life
the band you have ever seen

1525
01:11:12,182 --> 01:11:14,615
And we will go
to drain us,

1526
01:11:14,715 --> 01:11:18,515
and in the process, you, of all
energy to convince you

1527
01:11:18,615 --> 01:11:20,082
I think it's like any athlete,

1528
01:11:20,182 --> 01:11:23,482
or runner or anyone
who's superior, you know

1529
01:11:23,549 --> 01:11:27,649
Like, you can't win
unless you are willing to -

1530
01:11:27,749 --> 01:11:29,749
if it's easy
everyone will do it

1531
01:11:32,449 --> 01:11:34,315
This is one of our singles

1532
01:01:34,415 --> 01:11:36,449
"I will never grow now!"

1533
01:11:41,016 --> 01:11:44,316
♪ They say, you should stop
dreamin you '♪

1534
01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:47,983
♪ You go to a fast place... ♪

1535
01:11:48,083 --> 01:11:50,216
A girl appears as long as
checks the voice and says to me,

1536
01:11:50,283 --> 01:11:51,283
"My mother told me

1537
01:11:51,283 --> 01:11:52,750
Eddie Kramer was away
to come and see you."

1538
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:53,983
And I go, "Eddie Kramer..."

1539
01:11:54,083 --> 01:11:55,650
Eddie Kramer... Like, there are
only one Eddie Kramer I know,

1540
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:58,516
You know he's a very famous person
a male producer / engineer

1541
01:11:58,616 --> 01:12:00,983
for Hendrix and Zeppelin
and Rolling Stones.

1542
01:12:01,083 --> 01:12:01,616
Eddie Kramer?

1543
01:12:01,683 --> 01:12:03,683
♪ You look like that
a slob... ♪

1544
01:12:03,983 --> 01:12:05,316
What are the opportunities?

1545
01:12:05,416 --> 01:12:07,251
I say to everyone that Eddie Kramer
should come

1546
01:12:07,317 --> 01:12:09,284
Yes, right, sure,
Eddie Kramer came to Detroit.

1547
01:12:09,384 --> 01:12:10,451
Yes, right, of course.

1548
01:12:10,551 --> 01:12:12,284
Well, look,
That night's rain,

1549
01:12:12,384 --> 01:12:14,384
there are 100 people in the room.

1550
01:12:14,451 --> 01:12:16,051
Eddie Kramer enters

1551
01:12:16,151 --> 01:12:19,051
Seeing the band, like it, saying,
"Let's do a production deal."

1552
01:12:19,117 --> 01:12:21,151
So here's the next thing.

1553
01:12:21,217 --> 01:12:22,584
We will sign
with Eddie Kramer,

1554
01:12:22,651 --> 01:12:24,751
we will do the song,
we will enter the studio,

1555
01:12:25,051 --> 01:12:26,051
we will make a demo

1556
01:12:27,084 --> 01:12:32,417
♪ Why don't you listen to it?
the music we play?
♪

1557
01:12:32,517 --> 01:12:37,385
♪ Go choose someone else... ♪

1558
01:12:37,452 --> 01:12:38,585
We don't have a large budget
this thing,

1559
01:12:38,685 --> 01:12:40,585
we must immediately enter
and record these things

1560
01:12:40,685 --> 01:12:43,018
like "I will never grow"
and "Under The Blade,"

1561
01:12:43,085 --> 01:12:44,252
and "Shoot 'Em Down."

1562
01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:46,252
We are together
Eddie Kramer.
It's like a big problem.

1563
01:12:46,318 --> 01:12:47,285
Man, Eddie Kramer...

1564
01:12:47,352 --> 01:12:48,718
Wow, how big is that right?

1565
01:12:48,985 --> 01:12:51,318
And he is a good friend,
and stays up to this day,

1566
01:12:51,385 --> 01:12:52,718
But he can't get a deal.

1567
01:12:53,018 --> 01:12:54,985
He can't make us an agreement.

1568
01:12:55,085 --> 01:12:56,485
We are rather coming
to this conclusion

1569
01:12:56,585 --> 01:12:57,752
that if he can't get us
an agreement,

1570
01:12:58,018 --> 01:12:59,752
let's at least press up on our own
note

1571
01:13:00,018 --> 01:13:01,718
and issue
on Twisted Sister Records.

1572
01:13:01,985 --> 01:13:04,285
And at least use it
for ads on radio

1573
01:13:04,385 --> 01:13:06,719
and sell some - something--
give them -

1574
01:13:06,986 --> 01:13:07,986
just say we make notes

1575
01:13:08,086 --> 01:13:11,986
We have to have us and the word
"note" is somewhat spoken together.

1576
01:13:12,053 --> 01:13:13,219
The reason we issued a single,

1577
01:13:13,286 --> 01:13:16,386
is to maintain
excitement about the band,

1578
01:13:16,453 --> 01:13:17,553
show record company

1579
01:13:20,219 --> 01:13:22,319
Because our singles are sold out all the time

1580
01:13:22,419 --> 01:13:25,253
We are amazed
how much we will sell

1581
01:13:25,319 --> 01:13:28,619
And I guess that still doesn't make sense
record company

1582
01:13:28,686 --> 01:13:30,353
I don't consider it at all chaotic.

1583
01:13:34,420 --> 01:13:35,620
Above all,

1584
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,520
I think we started
to suffer a decline

1585
01:13:38,587 --> 01:13:42,720
following us
in some clubs.

1586
01:13:42,987 --> 01:13:46,687
We have gone and pushed
Next to another area,

1587
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,020
to build a new market,

1588
01:13:51,087 --> 01:13:54,120
and we let some of us
the regular market soften.

1589
01:13:54,187 --> 01:13:56,020
We need something to take it
to next summer

1590
01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:58,220
And Dee said,
"Well, I have this new song

1591
01:13:58,220 --> 01:13:59,654
called 'Bad Boys of Rock' n 'Roll'
and let's--

1592
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,987
Maybe we can have it
Summer Bad Boys in 1980. "

1593
01:14:04,155 --> 01:14:05,755
This is our new single,

1594
01:14:06,021 --> 01:14:08,088
will be in the
shop on June 4 -

1595
01:14:08,155 --> 01:14:11,155
called "Bad Boys
From Rock 'n' Roll!"

1596
01:14:11,255 --> 01:14:12,621
Dee throws down
challenges and says,

1597
01:14:17,155 --> 01:14:20,621
And we can focus continuously
next attack on the bar.

1598
01:14:20,688 --> 01:14:24,555
I feel it
"Bad Boys" really

1599
01:14:24,621 --> 01:14:28,555
solidification
from my creative control

1600
01:14:28,621 --> 01:14:31,321
I'm basically given
full power,

1601
01:14:31,421 --> 01:14:34,622
and the band
accepts all my ideas,

1602
01:14:40,256 --> 01:14:42,189
We climbed into the studio
in White Plains called Minot

1603
01:14:42,256 --> 01:14:44,056
and record "Bad Boys" single,

1604
01:14:44,122 --> 01:14:46,422
and Memorial Day weekend
we hit the target,

1605
01:14:46,522 --> 01:14:49,722
take an ad in the newspaper,
Twisted Sister Bad Boys 1980.

1606
01:14:49,989 --> 01:14:51,522
Set a new stage,
new clothes,

1607
01:14:51,589 --> 01:14:54,022
new songs,
new promotions and bang!

1608
01:14:55,522 --> 01:14:57,756
♪ Now we our boys
bother you ♪

1609
01:14:58,022 --> 01:15:00,456
♪ Alright, we regret
your way ♪

1610
01:15:00,556 --> 01:15:03,457
♪ You can't stand anything
we do ♪

1611
01:15:09,457 --> 01:15:12,023
♪ And have fun with
everything we do ♪

1612
01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:14,723
♪ We only have fun
time, so let your guard ♪

1613
01:15:28,257 --> 01:15:30,991
So I thought "Bad Boys" was a business  to give everyone
something fresh to see,

1614
01:15:31,058 --> 01:15:34,491
That's when
we became a record company,

1615
01:15:37,558 --> 01:15:39,024
Everything is interrelated,

1616
01:15:41,524 --> 01:15:44,124
Because we cannot rely on
on others,

1617
01:15:44,224 --> 01:15:45,991
Records in stores,
radio places,

1618
01:15:51,124 --> 01:15:53,324
and play Staten Island
on Friday

1619
01:15:58,491 --> 01:16:00,759


1620
01:16:01,025 --> 01:16:01,692
and doing business,

1621
01:16:01,759 --> 01:16:04,559
and Queens or Jersey
on Saturdays

1622
01:16:04,625 --> 01:16:05,559
and doing business.

1623
01:16:05,659 --> 01:16:07,259
I think they play,
If I'm not mistaken,

1624
01:16:07,325 --> 01:16:09,392
from Wednesday to Sunday

1625
01:16:09,459 --> 01:16:11,992
And every night
that is the same thing,

1626
01:16:12,059 --> 01:16:13,259
they will do business.

1627
01:16:13,325 --> 01:16:14,759
Check this one we go
to do for you -

1628
01:16:15,025 --> 01:16:16,692
"Rock 'n Roll Saviors!"

1629
01:16:34,326 --> 01:16:36,660
Hammerheads Closure
in Levittown

1630
01:16:36,726 --> 01:16:37,693
actually is the beginning

1631
01:16:37,993 --> 01:16:40,760
period of stone destruction
from Twisted Sister.

1632
01:16:42,293 --> 01:16:44,326
We performed at the club and
we were told the club would

1633
01:16:44,326 --> 01:16:46,460
Get out of business that night -
It's finished, it's done.

1634
01:16:46,526 --> 01:16:48,326
They will move
to another location

1635
01:16:48,393 --> 01:16:50,460
and that club owners and
landlords hate each other.

1636
01:16:50,993 --> 01:16:52,260
And club owners
have told us

1637
01:16:52,260 --> 01:16:54,060
to tell our fans
they can do whatever they want.

1638
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:54,760
They hate the owner.

1639
01:16:54,993 --> 01:16:56,760
They don't care,
destroy the room

1640
01:16:58,261 --> 01:17:00,694
Take what
So our fans start taking.

1641
01:17:00,994 --> 01:17:02,394
What they take

1642
01:17:02,494 --> 01:17:05,161
They take urinals.
They take the toilet.

1643
01:17:05,261 --> 01:17:08,261
They take the toilet stall.
They turn on the fire alarm.

1644
01:17:08,327 --> 01:17:10,327
They take everything from--

1645
01:17:10,427 --> 01:17:13,594
They tear clubs
physically apart.

1646
01:17:13,661 --> 01:17:17,494
I remember the bathroom----
the flattened wall,

1647
01:17:17,594 --> 01:17:20,461
just come out
and see water and bowl,

1648
01:17:20,561 --> 01:17:22,361
and the sink has run out.

1649
01:17:22,461 --> 01:17:24,627
I hear someone's ears
flogged -

1650
01:17:24,694 --> 01:17:27,395
it's only pandemonium!

1651
01:17:27,695 --> 01:17:32,528
♪ We are rock 'n' roll
savior ♪

1652
01:17:33,528 --> 01:17:38,228
♪ Rock 'n' roll
we will defend ♪

1653
01:17:38,295 --> 01:17:41,495
And the last thing left,
At 4:00 a.m.,

1654
01:17:41,562 --> 01:17:42,762
is an air conditioning system.

1655
01:17:43,028 --> 01:17:45,662
And at 3:55 a.m., someone reaches

1656
01:17:45,728 --> 01:17:49,328
and interesting
the entire false ceiling drops.

1657
01:17:49,395 --> 01:17:51,462
All AC
cracks system

1658
01:17:51,562 --> 01:17:53,028
The water pipe is cracked.

1659
01:17:53,095 --> 01:17:54,328
The room is full of water.

1660
01:17:54,428 --> 01:17:56,263
We shout, "Get out!"

1661
01:17:59,396 --> 01:18:01,196
What I know
is that they stop playing,

1662
01:18:01,263 --> 01:18:02,629
and I turn

1663
01:18:02,696 --> 01:18:05,529
and the club ceiling
basically is on the floor.

1664
01:18:07,529 --> 01:18:08,996
How much do I destroy?

1665
01:18:09,063 --> 01:18:11,163
I am on stage playing,
I can't destroy anything

1666
01:18:11,263 --> 01:18:12,296
I want to.

1667
01:18:12,363 --> 01:18:15,163
♪ But the disco is dead,
it's dead ♪

1668
01:18:15,263 --> 01:18:16,563
♪ Well, baby, it's dead ♪

1669
01:18:16,663 --> 01:18:18,429
♪ Dead, dead, dead... ♪

1670
01:18:18,496 --> 01:18:23,129
During the Bad Boys tour,
we have the opportunity to close,

1671
01:18:23,196 --> 01:18:26,630
or re-christen,
disco 2001  Uh, which is very significant,
is very symbolic,

1672
01:18:26,730 --> 01:18:30,364


1673
01:18:30,464 --> 01:18:31,764
to be a nightclub

1674
01:18:32,064 --> 01:18:34,497
that John Travolta dances
His legendary dance

1675
01:18:34,597 --> 01:18:35,997
in "Saturday Night Fever."

1676
01:18:36,097 --> 01:18:38,330
Club owners say,
"You have your fans in

1677
01:18:38,397 --> 01:18:43,130
" and basically engrossing Disco
from our room

1678
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:44,297
and turn it into a rock club. "

1679
01:18:44,297 --> 01:18:45,730
Elmo, turn on all the lights on!

1680
01:18:46,030 --> 01:18:48,230
It's time to take out the old,
and bring new ones!

1681
01:18:48,297 --> 01:18:52,764
Because we have something
to say about that!

1682
01:18:53,065 --> 01:18:56,431


1683
01:18:56,498 --> 01:19:01,231


1684
01:19:01,298 --> 01:19:04,765


1685
01:19:09,731 --> 01:19:12,131
Bastard sick!

1686
01:19:12,198 --> 01:19:13,698
That's us!

1687
01:19:13,998 --> 01:19:15,431
Fuck "Saturday Night Fever!"

1688
01:19:15,531 --> 01:19:21,565
Now I ask to sing with us
like this - everything now!

1689
01:19:21,665 --> 01:19:24,766
The destruction of the club,

1690
01:19:25,032 --> 01:19:28,566
causes phone calls from others
club owners who say,

1691
01:19:28,632 --> 01:19:30,466
"I quit my contract.

1692
01:19:30,532 --> 01:19:32,699
I don't care, ask your fans
come and destroy the room."

1693
01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:37,766
And he brought out advertisements -
'Emmett's RIP - Rest in Peace. "

1694
01:19:38,066 --> 01:19:40,332
What are we
Destruc--
uh, we entered,

1695
01:19:40,399 --> 01:19:42,766
" Well this was last night,
take what you want! "

1696
01:19:43,032 --> 01:19:45,266
Enthusiasts dismantle the room.

1697
01:19:45,366 --> 01:19:46,766
2000 disco?

1698
01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:48,399
Dismantling the room

1699
01:19:48,499 --> 01:19:50,532
Soap Factory in Jersey -

1700
01:19:50,599 --> 01:19:52,000
the last one.

1701
01:20:18,533 --> 01:20:20,268
Does anyone want
to listen to us playing music?

1702
01:20:22,434 --> 01:20:25,668
For me that
is schticky,

1703
01:20:25,734 --> 01:20:30,401
It's fun, it brings
people in, definitely

1704
01:20:30,468 --> 01:20:32,301
But I know it's not
that kind of thing

1705
01:20:32,401 --> 01:20:35,434
it will make
Twisted Sister world famous.

1706
01:20:35,501 --> 01:20:40,201
Need more
bands, more about the music.

1707
01:20:40,301 --> 01:20:44,101
It needs to be combined
this idea and their focus.

1708
01:20:44,201 --> 01:20:45,634
The sick mother
Friends of Twisted Sister

1709
01:20:45,701 --> 01:20:49,402
officially developed
around the time of Bad Boys,

1710
01:20:49,502 --> 01:20:53,169
with member card,
and welcome letter.

1711
01:20:53,269 --> 01:20:56,669
Our friend knows that we refer
to our friends

1712
01:20:56,735 --> 01:20:59,635
as the mother meets the sick,
you see?

1713
01:21:02,069 --> 01:21:04,735
That's because we
sick bastards

1714
01:21:05,035 --> 01:21:07,735
So what we do is we start
an organization,

1715
01:21:08,035 --> 01:21:11,502
rather than calling it
Twisted Sister Fan Club,

1716
01:21:11,602 --> 01:21:13,769
Because it sounds like pussy shit,
Do you know what I'm saying?

1717
01:21:14,069 --> 01:21:15,235
I am a Twisted Fan, ooh!

1718
01:21:15,335 --> 01:21:17,502
That's nonsense.

1719
01:21:17,569 --> 01:21:21,103
We call it Motherfucking Pain
Friends of Twisted Sister!

1720
01:21:23,103 --> 01:21:25,270
I have a lot of sadness
from people,

1721
01:21:25,370 --> 01:21:27,570
like you know, "do you like it?"

1722
01:21:27,670 --> 01:21:31,603
And I think the band is reversing it
To their advantage, you know?

1723
01:21:31,703 --> 01:21:34,136
You are one of us
You are dirt

1724
01:21:34,203 --> 01:21:37,003
You biker
You are S.M.F.,
you know.
You're one of us

1725
01:21:37,070 --> 01:21:39,036
And it's banded people together.

1726
01:21:39,103 --> 01:21:42,403
I have
hatred for all types of people

1727
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:44,470
who will look down
on me with disgust.

1728
01:21:44,536 --> 01:21:46,103
I deal with them
my whole life

1729
01:21:46,203 --> 01:21:49,737
And find that there are
more than "mes" in the world

1730
01:21:50,004 --> 01:21:51,371
from there
from cool people.

1731
01:21:51,437 --> 01:21:54,504
All S.M.F.
what's wrong
about all these people

1732
01:21:54,604 --> 01:21:56,237
come together
and find each other...

1733
01:21:57,671 --> 01:22:01,137
and create "cool"
where none.

1734
01:22:01,237 --> 01:22:04,271
If you want to clap and shout,
clap and shout!

1735
01:22:04,371 --> 01:22:07,171
If you want to jump around
and get out of your damn mind,

1736
01:22:07,237 --> 01:22:08,737
out of your damn mind

1737
01:22:09,037 --> 01:22:10,737
Because it's not fucking
trouble!

1738
01:22:11,037 --> 01:22:14,004
No problem
what other people think,

1739
01:22:14,071 --> 01:22:15,504
the only
is a damn problem

1740
01:22:15,604 --> 01:22:17,272
what do you think?

1741
01:22:17,338 --> 01:22:21,072
And if you like you,
fuck everyone

1742
01:22:21,172 --> 01:22:24,105
Beautiful people.
Beautiful people,

1743
01:22:24,205 --> 01:22:28,505
cool people,
and people together,

1744
01:22:28,572 --> 01:22:29,605
they are a minority.

1745
01:22:29,672 --> 01:22:33,272
The majority of us are fair
Joes and Janes are ordinary.

1746
01:22:33,338 --> 01:22:35,738
And we feel less
than others--

1747
01:22:36,005 --> 01:22:38,505
not in the Twisted Sister world.

1748
01:22:39,705 --> 01:22:42,038
I will sit at home
and consider,

1749
01:22:42,138 --> 01:22:44,605
okay, I can get out
with my friends to a bar

1750
01:22:44,705 --> 01:22:48,406
in an area five miles away
and see some other bands,

1751
01:22:48,473 --> 01:22:52,606
or drive 40 miles
snow to go see Sister,

1752
01:22:52,706 --> 01:22:55,339
you know,
at Emmett in Jamesburgh.

1753
01:22:55,406 --> 01:22:56,773
And for me
That is an easy decision.

1754
01:22:57,039 --> 01:22:59,406
Rain, snow, hail, hail,
don't matter

1755
01:22:59,506 --> 01:23:01,173
We just left
We got into the car.

1756
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,339
We have a pot.
We got beer money.
We have money to enter

1757
01:23:04,406 --> 01:23:05,639
We bring it to Detroit!

1758
01:23:05,706 --> 01:23:08,639
We have a broken car.
We have to leave the car there

1759
01:23:08,706 --> 01:23:11,006
and basically have
to stack seven people

1760
01:23:11,106 --> 01:23:13,039
at Firebird
to go home.

1761
01:23:13,106 --> 01:23:15,074
And it's still
worth the trip

1762
01:23:15,174 --> 01:23:19,374
Just say I will go
on average three times a week.

1763
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:20,707
Maybe four.

1764
01:23:20,774 --> 01:23:24,040
I remember most of the
from the audience that came

1765
01:23:24,107 --> 01:23:25,740
from Farmingdale, Long Island.

1766
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,607
Dan Farmingdale, Long Island

1767
01:23:27,707 --> 01:23:30,774
is a good three and a half hours
away from the Final Examination.

1768
01:23:31,074 --> 01:23:32,274
I will not go to Farmingdale.

1769
01:23:32,374 --> 01:23:34,374
It's possible to see Sinatra,
but that's about it

1770
01:23:34,474 --> 01:23:37,107
And for children from Jersey there
always rule these two rivers.

1771
01:23:37,174 --> 01:23:39,374
I mean, you will cross one river
into Manhattan,

1772
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,140
but cross two rivers
to Long Island,

1773
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,375
That means too far.

1774
01:23:43,441 --> 01:23:46,075
And we will go and be hammered
and exit,

1775
01:23:46,175 --> 01:23:47,041
You know after the show,

1776
01:23:47,041 --> 01:23:48,275
and enter the car
and faint

1777
01:23:48,275 --> 01:23:50,008
and in the morning
get up and go home.

1778
01:23:50,075 --> 01:23:52,041
Often I fall
off right at work

1779
01:23:52,108 --> 01:23:54,341
Basically washing my face,
works eight hours,

1780
01:23:54,441 --> 01:23:56,608
sleep a few hours and do
everything again.

1781
01:23:59,441 --> 01:24:00,608
You laugh
That's what we do.

1782
01:24:03,741 --> 01:24:05,241
If you like what we are doing,

1783
01:24:05,308 --> 01:24:08,608
show us what we are
we do, bastard

1784
01:24:11,008 --> 01:24:12,542
Or if you don't want
to do it,

1785
01:24:12,609 --> 01:24:15,309
You can turn around,
loose your fucking ass,

1786
01:24:15,409 --> 01:24:16,676
and get out of here,

1787
01:24:16,776 --> 01:24:19,576
and go to another place
where you will be more appreciated

1788
01:24:19,676 --> 01:24:22,476
Because we can't give
two nonsense about you

1789
01:24:23,642 --> 01:24:27,609
I started to get angry
men, that is my thing on stage.

1790
01:24:27,709 --> 01:24:30,742
Jay Jay is a storyteller,

1791
01:24:31,042 --> 01:24:33,609
kind of relaxed
from men, you know

1792
01:24:33,709 --> 01:24:37,076
But I did it
was angry with the audience,

1793
01:24:38,209 --> 01:24:40,076
and tear others
in the audience.

1794
01:24:40,142 --> 01:24:44,343
♪ He spends his life
sentinel silent ♪

1795
01:24:44,410 --> 01:24:47,077
♪ For everything to fear ♪

1796
01:24:47,143 --> 01:24:49,777
♪ He walks, he talks,
According to him, he feels ♪

1797
01:24:50,043 --> 01:24:53,143
♪ But no one dares to approach ♪

1798
01:24:53,210 --> 01:24:56,177
♪ He takes everything he sees ♪

1799
01:24:56,277 --> 01:24:59,477
♪ Nothing escapes his gaze ♪

1800
01:24:59,577 --> 01:25:01,210
♪ And when he attacks ♪

1801
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:04,643
♪ He attacks for right,
beautiful scenery ♪

1802
01:25:04,743 --> 01:25:11,244
♪ Destructive, destructive,
he's in town... ♪

1803
01:25:11,344 --> 01:25:14,178
I equate Jay Jay
with being a preacher.

1804
01:25:14,244 --> 01:25:16,678
He can make people cry
and scream.

1805
01:25:16,744 --> 01:25:18,411
He has a gift gab.

1806
01:25:18,511 --> 01:25:20,244
He is like a preacher.

1807
01:25:20,311 --> 01:25:22,011
Dee isn't so much
like a preacher,

1808
01:25:22,111 --> 01:25:24,011
Dee is like a demon.

1809
01:25:24,078 --> 01:25:26,178
You know.
If not,
he will kill you

1810
01:25:26,278 --> 01:25:29,278
He usually chooses that person
will stand there, you know,

1811
01:25:29,344 --> 01:25:31,711
"Oh, I'm not going to enter
Twisted Sister.
I'm too cool."

1812
01:25:31,778 --> 01:25:33,044
That's all.

1813
01:25:33,144 --> 01:25:35,211
Dee put his view
on people

1814
01:25:35,311 --> 01:25:38,078
and we turn on the lights on them
and they are smashed to pieces.

1815
01:25:38,178 --> 01:25:40,079
If you are one person
who is just standing there

1816
01:25:40,145 --> 01:25:41,145
- He caught you
- Yeah.

1817
01:25:41,212 --> 01:25:43,512
- surely you have
- We are very diligent

1818
01:25:43,612 --> 01:25:46,479
that we will come out
from our mind crazy at all times.

1819
01:25:46,545 --> 01:25:50,512
So Dee doesn't catch us yawning,
or like not crazy.

1820
01:25:50,579 --> 01:25:52,712
If he looks at our direction, what are we like?

1821
01:25:54,012 --> 01:25:54,745
♪ One day will arrive ♪

1822
01:25:55,012 --> 01:25:59,579
♪ You will be interested
your city center ♪

1823
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:01,345
"Yeah, you're back there!

1824
01:26:01,445 --> 01:26:03,612
I want to see you put
your hand together!"

1825
01:26:03,712 --> 01:26:07,345
And if not
responds well,

1826
01:26:07,445 --> 01:26:10,046
then Dee will invite the rest
from the audience

1827
01:26:10,113 --> 01:26:12,346
to advise them,
by turning around,

1828
01:26:12,413 --> 01:26:15,246
face that person
At the back of the room there,

1829
01:26:15,346 --> 01:26:18,013
and at a count of three
we want you to shout,

1830
01:26:18,113 --> 01:26:20,480
"Release it!"

1831
01:26:20,546 --> 01:26:24,046
"Release it!
Get it - and you will be -

1832
01:26:24,146 --> 01:26:25,546
The sound will deafening.

1833
01:26:25,613 --> 01:26:27,746
" Release it! Get - "

1834
01:26:28,013 --> 01:26:30,713
These people really will -
You will see them starting to crawl to the corner

1835
01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:32,746
because now everyone
See them,

1836
01:26:33,046 --> 01:26:34,680
bands
make fun of them,

1837
01:26:34,746 --> 01:26:36,713
I mean after three o'clock or four minutes

1838
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:38,214
they will only be destroyed

1839
01:26:38,781 --> 01:26:40,614
You'd better stay outside
from that damn 'way

1840
01:26:40,714 --> 01:26:44,081
This will kick your ass.

1841
01:26:44,147 --> 01:26:45,681
Yes!

1842
01:26:59,347 --> 01:27:00,281
I get everyone

1843
01:27:00,381 --> 01:27:02,714
where to react
by threatening them

1844
01:27:03,014 --> 01:27:04,281
But they are afraid,

1845
01:27:04,381 --> 01:27:07,082
not only from me,
but from the people around them.

1846
01:27:07,182 --> 01:27:09,148
That if you don't respond,

1847
01:27:09,215 --> 01:27:13,548
that this crowd is very intense
can turn it on

1848
01:27:13,615 --> 01:27:16,648
Sort of "Day Of The Locust"
briefly.

1849
01:27:16,748 --> 01:27:18,448
Be the people in the audience,

1850
01:27:18,515 --> 01:27:20,615
even though I have started
100% participation,

1851
01:27:20,715 --> 01:27:22,548
Their hearts are not
really in it

1852
01:27:22,648 --> 01:27:25,282
They are just afraid.

1853
01:27:32,282 --> 01:27:34,582
You have Mad Hatter
in Stonybrook

1854
01:27:34,682 --> 01:27:36,783
You have
Hammerheads in Levittown

1855
01:27:37,049 --> 01:27:39,449
You have Gemini
at Yorktown Heights

1856
01:27:39,549 --> 01:27:42,183
Then the next level
above is your Speaks.

1857
01:27:42,283 --> 01:27:44,649
Speaking is the culmination of
it holds 2,000 people.

1858
01:27:44,716 --> 01:27:46,349
And you will start doing that.

1859
01:27:46,683 --> 01:27:49,449
When new Hammerheads are opened,
room hierarchy

1860
01:27:49,449 --> 01:27:51,749
are as follows -
Long Island Hammerheads II,

1861
01:27:52,049 --> 01:27:53,516
3,300 people.

1862
01:27:53,616 --> 01:27:56,283
Glen Island Casino,
3,300 people.

1863
01:27:56,383 --> 01:27:58,649
And then as much as that
like a Soap Factory can hold,

1864
01:27:58,716 --> 01:28:01,149
2,500 on several floors,

1865
01:28:01,249 --> 01:28:03,116
big daddy
is a Fountain Casino.

1866
01:28:03,216 --> 01:28:05,384
5,000 people.

1867
01:28:05,617 --> 01:28:07,517
If you can headline
this room,

1868
01:28:07,517 --> 01:28:08,517
You are the biggest band.

1869
01:28:08,584 --> 01:28:11,550
So in 1981
we finally reached our goal,

1870
01:28:11,617 --> 01:28:13,717
and not only are we headlining
each of them,

1871
01:28:14,017 --> 01:28:16,050
we don't like
all others

1872
01:28:16,117 --> 01:28:18,050
We are the number one drawing
in the fountain

1873
01:28:18,117 --> 01:28:19,584
We are number one drawing
on Glen Island.

1874
01:28:19,684 --> 01:28:21,617
We are number one drawing
in Hammerheads.

1875
01:28:21,684 --> 01:28:24,517
And where did it leave us?

1876
01:28:24,617 --> 01:28:27,517
If we don't come out,
we will die

1877
01:28:27,617 --> 01:28:31,684
These bands
Markets make lots of money

1878
01:28:31,784 --> 01:28:35,651
it's very difficult
they even try to branch out,

1879
01:28:35,718 --> 01:28:38,285
say go to California,
go to L.A.

1880
01:28:38,351 --> 01:28:39,785
There is no point--
they will go to L.A.

1881
01:28:40,051 --> 01:28:41,618
They may have
to pay to play.

1882
01:28:41,685 --> 01:28:43,685
Where in this market
they make three,

1883
01:28:43,751 --> 01:28:46,151
five, seven thousand rupiah
night

1884
01:28:46,218 --> 01:28:48,485
Twisted makes ten thousand
in several places.

1885
01:28:48,585 --> 01:28:49,551
That's crazy!

1886
01:28:49,618 --> 01:28:53,351
You can make lots of money -
in some cases - on this circuit,

1887
01:28:53,451 --> 01:28:56,618
that many people see it
as it works on this circuit

1888
01:28:56,685 --> 01:28:58,085
is the end for himself.

1889
01:28:58,185 --> 01:29:01,085
I have to call him
"velvet dagger".

1890
01:29:01,151 --> 01:29:02,119
Where, you know,

1891
01:29:02,219 --> 01:29:06,052
it will be very comfortable
but you stay at the end.

1892
01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:08,019
You can definitely fall into a situation

1893
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:10,486
where will this never end,
do you know?

1894
01:29:10,552 --> 01:29:12,419
I mean who wants
sit at the table

1895
01:29:12,519 --> 01:29:14,619
and say, what if
the age of drinking changes?

1896
01:29:14,686 --> 01:29:16,652
Because of me
That is what happened.

1897
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:19,452
It killed him.
I mean,
When you are drinking in,

1898
01:29:19,519 --> 01:29:22,019
then you have younger children
who might have entered it,

1899
01:29:22,086 --> 01:29:23,486
they can't go
to the club anymore

1900
01:29:23,586 --> 01:29:29,219
I know that human cuts,
right, from 18 to 21,

1901
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,187
I can't imagine how much

1902
01:29:31,253 --> 01:29:34,720
that in the span of three years
who can't come to the nightclub,

1903
01:29:34,787 --> 01:29:37,720
can't enter the bar,
can't enter the liquor store

1904
01:29:37,787 --> 01:29:39,453
I was born and raised
in Brooklyn,

1905
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,787
like I said before,
so I'm always 18.

1906
01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:44,220
And at 18 it means you
drink at 16

1907
01:29:44,287 --> 01:29:47,653
So the rock scene starts to die
little.
This starts to die.

1908
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,220
And the club can't afford
band

1909
01:29:50,287 --> 01:29:52,753
like Twisted Sister
or Zebra or Rat Race,

1910
01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:54,487
But they need those bands.

1911
01:29:54,587 --> 01:29:56,220
Because they can't survive
without them.

1912
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,387
We will sit
and book for six months.

1913
01:29:59,453 --> 01:30:01,254
And we will say it
give us twisted

1914
01:30:01,354 --> 01:30:03,721
every six weeks because we need
to pay rent

1915
01:30:03,788 --> 01:30:05,388
So we know
that Twisted is there,

1916
01:30:05,488 --> 01:30:07,454
You will have a crowded night,
register will ring,

1917
01:30:07,521 --> 01:30:09,054
and you will pay
rent from them!

1918
01:30:17,454 --> 01:30:18,421
The money we make

1919
01:30:18,488 --> 01:30:22,021
put back consistently
into the equipment, become a demo,

1920
01:30:22,088 --> 01:30:23,621
and become advertising.

1921
01:30:23,688 --> 01:30:24,788
And the ad part

1922
01:30:25,054 --> 01:30:27,088
I can't discount
because the ad part is

1923
01:30:27,188 --> 01:30:28,521
This is what gives the world ideas

1924
01:30:28,588 --> 01:30:29,755
that Twisted Sister
is everywhere

1925
01:30:30,389 --> 01:30:32,055
♪ You are cornered
in the alley way ♪

1926
01:30:32,155 --> 01:30:34,489
♪ You know you're alone ♪

1927
01:30:34,555 --> 01:30:36,489
♪ You know it will happen
end this way ♪

1928
01:30:36,589 --> 01:30:38,589
♪ The cold goes
to the bone ♪

1929
01:30:38,655 --> 01:30:41,022
♪ Right now he's
a sparkling lamp ♪

1930
01:30:41,089 --> 01:30:43,155
♪ This goes to your side ♪

1931
01:30:43,255 --> 01:30:45,255
♪ Darkness comes,
Tonight night ♪

1932
01:30:45,355 --> 01:30:47,255
♪ Blade will rise ♪

1933
01:30:47,355 --> 01:30:51,755
♪ Because you are under
the knife, ohh ♪

1934
01:30:52,022 --> 01:30:54,789
♪ You are under the sword... ♪

1935
01:30:55,055 --> 01:30:57,555
We are in the media capital
of the world, New York City,

1936
01:30:57,655 --> 01:30:59,556
and we don't have it
a record contract

1937
01:30:59,623 --> 01:31:01,456
But we can buy radio time.

1938
01:31:01,556 --> 01:31:04,556
Airplay, what really is,
In those days,

1939
01:31:04,623 --> 01:31:07,556
really driving everything
in the music business -

1940
01:31:07,623 --> 01:31:11,756
FM is played--
is beyond our ability.

1941
01:31:12,056 --> 01:31:17,623
So what are we trying to do to fill
That hole makes hits.

1942
01:31:17,690 --> 01:31:19,123
So what do we do?

1943
01:31:19,223 --> 01:31:21,290
We started buying air time
with the club.

1944
01:31:21,390 --> 01:31:26,690
We will buy 30, 40, 50 - 30 seconds
or one minute on weekends,

1945
01:31:31,257 --> 01:31:33,057
So what do you get
for your 30 dollars for a while?

1946
01:31:33,157 --> 01:31:34,524
Now you can write
a very funny place,

1947
01:31:34,591 --> 01:31:36,324
or you can take
your own music and play it

1948
01:31:36,391 --> 01:31:38,157
for all minutes
and only marks the beginning of

1949
01:31:38,224 --> 01:31:39,691
and commercial end

1950
01:31:39,757 --> 01:31:42,091
with Twisted Sister playing Speaks,

1951
01:31:42,157 --> 01:31:44,291
and it sounds like Twisted Sister's
the song is on the radio

1952
01:31:48,524 --> 01:31:50,324
So many people
think of our song

1953
01:31:50,391 --> 01:31:52,524
is playing on the radio
even though it's actually just

1954
01:31:52,624 --> 01:31:54,691
the constant drumbeat
from the ad.

1955
01:31:54,791 --> 01:31:57,158
And everyone hears it
this ad

1956
01:31:57,225 --> 01:31:59,592
When Twisted wants,
Say, you know, you must have played

1957
01:31:59,692 --> 01:32:01,758
"Bad Boys of Rock 'n' Roll" -
whatever it is,

1958
01:32:02,025 --> 01:32:04,058
the song they play -
people will go crazy

1959
01:32:04,158 --> 01:32:06,358
because it's like a cover song
that they hear on the radio.

1960
01:32:06,458 --> 01:32:07,725
And they heard it
it on the radio!

1961
01:32:26,026 --> 01:32:29,393
We are children of posters
for unusual actions

1962
01:32:29,459 --> 01:32:31,693
And people will say all kinds of things
insulting things

1963
01:32:31,759 --> 01:32:33,626
about us based on the series
we play,

1964
01:32:35,559 --> 01:32:37,059
It's difficult to get an agreement.

1965
01:32:42,293 --> 01:32:44,726
Label coming
to table,

1966
01:32:44,793 --> 01:32:48,626
is the one that--
You will make a deal with,

1967
01:32:48,726 --> 01:32:50,193
You will shake hands
and everything.

1968
01:32:50,259 --> 01:32:52,593
And it looks like you will never hear
from them again

1969
01:32:52,659 --> 01:32:57,360
Now we lower it
our view is to indies

1970
01:32:57,427 --> 01:33:00,560
I remember the Handshake deal.
When we get a contract,

1971
01:33:00,660 --> 01:33:03,294
they are basically
indentured slavery

1972
01:33:03,394 --> 01:33:05,760
Literally, the man
takes it all

1973
01:33:06,027 --> 01:33:09,527
and we just want, uh,
sort of salary.

1974
01:33:09,594 --> 01:33:11,160
And we have to say, "No."

1975
01:33:12,794 --> 01:33:16,127
But the Hansa or Handshake agreement
doesn't work.

1976
01:33:16,194 --> 01:33:19,027
But agreement with this
German company, X, does it.

1977
01:33:19,094 --> 01:33:22,694
And this person likes our stuff
and we negotiate

1978
01:33:22,761 --> 01:33:24,161
all recording contracts with him.

1979
01:33:24,228 --> 01:33:27,395
Overall agreement
And in spring '81,

1980
01:33:27,495 --> 01:33:31,261
he flies from L.A.
to New York back to Germany.

1981
01:33:31,328 --> 01:33:32,761
And we met him at the airport

1982
01:33:33,028 --> 01:33:34,495
and we submit the last letter to him

1983
01:33:34,561 --> 01:33:35,528
We give him a new demo.

1984
01:33:35,595 --> 01:33:38,295
He submits us
final contract

1985
01:33:38,361 --> 01:33:40,395
And we think this is our agreement

1986
01:33:40,461 --> 01:33:42,261
And then I understand
the phone call the next day.

1987
01:33:42,261 --> 01:33:43,328
My lawyer said,
"Are you sitting?"

1988
01:33:43,328 --> 01:33:46,095
"Yes, why?"
He said, "Alright
the record producer collapsed

1989
01:33:46,095 --> 01:33:48,061
on the plane to Germany.
He had a heart attack."

1990
01:33:48,161 --> 01:33:49,195
The deal is complete
Bang.

1991
01:33:49,261 --> 01:33:52,062
Everyone says how difficult it is to get an agreement now

1992
01:33:52,129 --> 01:33:53,562
It always happens
it's hard to get an agreement

1993
01:33:53,629 --> 01:33:55,029
There are always
several reasons--

1994
01:33:55,096 --> 01:33:57,096
they are always something
wrong with the economy.

1995
01:33:57,196 --> 01:33:58,629
That's the world.

1996
01:33:58,729 --> 01:34:00,696
I mean, you know,
do you give up?

1997
01:34:00,762 --> 01:34:02,129
No. You don't give up.

1998
01:34:02,229 --> 01:34:04,796
You keep going until it happens.

1999
01:34:05,096 --> 01:34:06,262
Or you die trying.

2000
01:34:09,396 --> 01:34:12,129
Twisted Sister extinguishes it
The single "I Will Not Grow".

2001
01:34:12,196 --> 01:34:13,562
Initially Joe Gerber will do it

2002
01:34:13,662 --> 01:34:15,329
sell them out
from the trunk of his car,

2003
01:34:15,429 --> 01:34:18,196
You know to the local store
in the Tri-State area,

2004
01:34:18,296 --> 01:34:23,197
where they play, where
they will be sold, at the show.

2005
01:34:23,263 --> 01:34:26,597
And I work for
Important Record Recording

2006
01:34:26,663 --> 01:34:28,763
And I think
is a good idea,

2007
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:32,430
Because I really love this band
to try to get the distributor

2008
01:34:32,497 --> 01:34:35,397
to sell it
outside the New York metro area.

2009
01:34:35,497 --> 01:34:38,397
So it feels like, uh,
this rinky-dink single...

2010
01:34:38,463 --> 01:34:40,430
why are we playing?
No one cares.

2011
01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:42,430
So, work
for record distributors

2012
01:34:42,530 --> 01:34:45,597
related to imported music,
Not just a note,

2013
01:34:45,697 --> 01:34:48,763
You will get all music papers -
"New Music Express,"

2014
01:34:53,198 --> 01:34:56,098
"Voice" is directed
a little harder.

2015
01:34:56,198 --> 01:34:59,698
So I sent a few more singles to the "Sounds" magazine

2016
01:34:59,764 --> 01:35:02,631
write a little handwriting
letter, "This is the biggest,

2017
01:35:02,731 --> 01:35:04,364
biggest band bar
in New York.

2018
01:35:04,431 --> 01:35:06,731
Next Superstar -"
whatever I write

2019
01:35:06,798 --> 01:35:09,598
Look,
three or four weeks later,

2020
01:35:09,664 --> 01:35:10,731
Twisted Sister in the chart.

2021
01:35:10,798 --> 01:35:12,331
Wow!
This is good

2022
01:35:12,398 --> 01:35:14,498
Next week,
they are in that chart again.

2023
01:35:14,564 --> 01:35:17,431
Suddenly,
at the distributor,

2024
01:35:17,531 --> 01:35:20,099
we don't sell singles
for people in America,

2025
01:35:20,165 --> 01:35:21,699
but we export
single -

2026
01:35:25,065 --> 01:35:26,565
Because there is
a request there

2027
01:35:26,632 --> 01:35:27,765
What you have in "Sounds,"

2028
01:35:28,065 --> 01:35:30,099
You have a personal playlist
from the authors,

2029
01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:33,165
which every week we will choose three
songs we listen to.

2030
01:35:33,232 --> 01:35:34,499
And they might be three songs

2031
01:35:34,599 --> 01:35:36,299
which is actually released.

2032
01:35:36,299 --> 01:35:38,032
With me often or not
it is a demo tape.

2033
01:35:38,099 --> 01:35:41,232
Or sometimes you will even put
songs you've ever seen live

2034
01:35:41,299 --> 01:35:44,199
That's not scientific.
That is really populist.

2035
01:35:44,265 --> 01:35:45,399
We feel it's our way

2036
01:35:45,465 --> 01:35:47,032
directly communicate
with readers

2037
01:35:47,032 --> 01:35:49,033
And there are many readers coming back
Then, you know what I mean?

2038
01:35:49,033 --> 01:35:51,733
"Voice" at that time was close to
to a quarter of one million sales,

2039
01:35:52,033 --> 01:35:54,066
be a reader
Maybe four times.

2040
01:35:54,166 --> 01:35:56,733
So even though one in ten of them
pay attention to the playlist,

2041
01:35:57,033 --> 01:35:59,433
That's still enough people to go
out and make something happen.

2042
01:35:59,500 --> 01:36:04,300
We got a call saying that
"Sounds" magazine in the UK,

2043
01:36:04,366 --> 01:36:07,100
has this playlist,

2044
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,600
and one of the authors
has placed "Under the Blade"

2045
01:36:10,666 --> 01:36:14,366
as the number one song
in his personal playlist.

2046
01:36:14,466 --> 01:36:15,566
In the real paper,

2047
01:36:15,666 --> 01:36:18,401
on music paper
it's not Long Island paper!

2048
01:36:18,467 --> 01:36:20,401
This is actually not
even American paper!

2049
01:36:20,467 --> 01:36:21,534
This is an English paper!

2050
01:36:21,601 --> 01:36:24,034
They don't know us.
They don't know anything about us

2051
01:36:24,101 --> 01:36:25,167
None.

2052
01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:27,434
And we contact "Sounds"

2053
01:36:27,501 --> 01:36:30,301
and they sent a writer,
Garry Bushell.

2054
01:36:30,401 --> 01:36:33,234
So I go down
to some damned hole in,

2055
01:36:33,334 --> 01:36:36,134
um, Westchester--
Westchester state

2056
01:36:36,201 --> 01:36:37,601
And that's awesome!

2057
01:36:37,667 --> 01:36:40,067
Seeing Twisted Sister
and their audience,

2058
01:36:40,134 --> 01:36:42,201
in what we will call
a spit and sawdust pub,

2059
01:36:42,267 --> 01:36:43,767
like an old club that is rude and rude.

2060
01:36:44,034 --> 01:36:46,302
And rightly so
like the right wild person--

2061
01:36:46,368 --> 01:36:48,235
audience--
they really went for it

2062
01:36:48,335 --> 01:36:51,035
Twisted Sister,
I mean they have a glam look,

2063
01:36:51,135 --> 01:36:53,302
but because it is so
so big and so butch,

2064
01:36:53,402 --> 01:36:55,268
they see
like docker in drag.

2065
01:36:55,368 --> 01:36:56,568
They are not like
boys who are beautiful at all

2066
01:36:56,668 --> 01:36:59,302
It feels like Cinderella is ugly
sister who has a convention

2067
01:36:59,368 --> 01:37:00,468
That's shocking!

2068
01:37:00,568 --> 01:37:02,402
And he wrote
this incredible story

2069
01:37:02,468 --> 01:37:04,068
called "Sledgehammer Sister."

2070
01:37:04,168 --> 01:37:07,302
And, you know, talking about
want to release this iceberg -

2071
01:37:07,368 --> 01:37:09,068
this will be published
in '81,

2072
01:37:09,135 --> 01:37:11,435
I don't believe,
what might happen?

2073
01:37:11,502 --> 01:37:14,602
The next thing you hear is
that this label is called Secret Records--

2074
01:37:14,669 --> 01:37:16,436
a punk-- label
wants to sign it.

2075
01:37:16,503 --> 01:37:18,769
Our manager tells us
he flew in

2076
01:37:19,036 --> 01:37:22,436
to see us at
Mid-Hudson Civic Center.

2077
01:37:22,536 --> 01:37:25,403
We are headlining and, um,
do you know?

2078
01:37:25,503 --> 01:37:27,369
This is our cynicism.

2079
01:37:27,436 --> 01:37:30,803
I say, the man's plane will be
accident before landing

2080
01:37:31,069 --> 01:37:32,403
But even if the land is,

2081
01:37:32,469 --> 01:37:34,569
He will die in a car accident
on the way to the gig

2082
01:37:34,636 --> 01:37:38,203
But even if he gets there,
P.A.
will fall on his head

2083
01:37:38,303 --> 01:37:40,103
But even if we are great,

2084
01:37:40,203 --> 01:37:42,369
he will die on the way home
to the airport.

2085
01:37:42,469 --> 01:37:43,403
But even if he lives,

2086
01:37:43,469 --> 01:37:46,737
he will die when the plane
crashes into the sea

2087
01:37:46,804 --> 01:37:49,170
when I.R.A.
bomb
that blow.

2088
01:37:49,237 --> 01:37:51,704
I took my girlfriend, and we will do it
Ever been to a party the night before

2089
01:37:51,770 --> 01:37:53,237
and we haven't slept yet.

2090
01:37:53,304 --> 01:37:57,204
And we catch a redeye
out there and don't sleep

2091
01:37:57,270 --> 01:38:00,337
And we got there
and we just messed up.

2092
01:38:00,404 --> 01:38:03,337
And uh, Mark picked us up
and, uh,

2093
01:38:03,404 --> 01:38:05,170
with all the best wishes
In the world,

2094
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:08,037
Mark can speak Olympic level.

2095
01:38:08,104 --> 01:38:12,504
And he just persuaded my ears
all the way out to Poughkeepsie.

2096
01:38:12,604 --> 01:38:14,071
and Poughkeepsie--

2097
01:38:14,171 --> 01:38:15,605
I've never heard of it
from Poughkeepsie,

2098
01:38:19,305 --> 01:38:21,505
I only hallucinate,
I'm very tired.

2099
01:38:21,605 --> 01:38:26,505
And, uh, we got there
and that place... big.

2100
01:38:26,605 --> 01:38:29,238
I kind of expect
a small club

2101
01:38:29,305 --> 01:38:31,271
And it's like a big hall.

2102
01:38:31,338 --> 01:38:35,071
And we go in there and there
are several thousand people.

2103
01:38:35,138 --> 01:38:36,505
And I think,
"This is crazy!"

2104
01:38:36,571 --> 01:38:39,105
This is a band that hasn't
got a record contract,

2105
01:38:39,171 --> 01:38:41,205
how do they do this?

2106
01:38:43,639 --> 01:38:46,206
And the reaction
From children is spectacular.

2107
01:38:46,272 --> 01:38:48,739
I mean they are fair
go crazy.

2108
01:38:49,039 --> 01:38:53,372
So, uh, I look at me
boyfriend and he loves that.

2109
01:38:53,472 --> 01:38:56,406
And I think,
"We can do something with this.

2110
01:38:56,506 --> 01:38:57,572
This is brilliant. "

2111
01:39:00,772 --> 01:39:03,672
At the end of the event
I go backstage to see the band

2112
01:39:08,806 --> 01:39:10,039
than I've seen in my life.

2113
01:39:10,139 --> 01:39:12,507
Cash, piles of it
from merchandising. big,

2114
01:39:12,573 --> 01:39:15,107
I think there's a torn poster
below.

2115
01:39:17,073 --> 01:39:19,140
And, uh, and I'm looking for
on this thought,

2116
01:39:19,207 --> 01:39:22,807
"Nonsense, I'll never be able to buy this band
! "

2117
01:39:23,073 --> 01:39:25,173
And one of them
turns and says,

2118
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:26,607
" Hey, you have to sign it.
We are very cheap! "

2119
01:39:26,673 --> 01:39:29,440
So he shows up.
He loves
bands.
He says band,

2120
01:39:29,507 --> 01:39:32,773


2121
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,040
he wants to contract us
We don't react at all.

2122
01:39:35,107 --> 01:39:38,507
We are just
like, uh, okay

2123
01:39:38,573 --> 01:39:41,341
It feels like, you know,
I think Martin Hooker,

2124
01:39:41,408 --> 01:39:42,741
his name, he is like,

2125
01:39:44,708 --> 01:39:46,308
And Mark Puma is like,

2126
01:39:46,408 --> 01:39:48,641
"Yeah, they've heard this
_ a few times before.

2127
01:39:48,708 --> 01:39:50,674
" Don't worry,
they will be happy

2128
01:39:50,741 --> 01:39:52,274
when are they actually
on the plane. "

2129
01:40:00,074 --> 01:40:01,508
Come on dear!

2130
01:40:01,574 --> 01:40:03,774
It's time to tear it loose!

2131
01:40:07,174 --> 01:40:10,142
♪ There's no way I will do it
wait Saturday night ♪

2132
01:41:49,001 --> 01:40:12,675
♪ I work all day, I work hard
far away, I have to set it right ♪

2133
01:40:12,742 --> 01:40:14,675
♪ Will hit the streets,
sail around ♪

2134
01:40:14,775 --> 01:40:16,075
♪ I have to find some action ♪

2135
01:40:16,142 --> 01:40:19,542
♪ It won't stop until I fall
or get some satisfaction ♪

2136
01:40:19,609 --> 01:40:21,075
Unfortunately there are
some problems

2137
01:40:21,175 --> 01:40:24,375
with our drummer Tony Petrie,
and, uh...

2138
01:40:25,742 --> 01:40:27,242
he left the band.

2139
01:40:27,342 --> 01:40:29,642
He was asked to leave the band
in other words.

2140
01:40:29,742 --> 01:40:33,075
There are many things
that lead to it with violence,

2141
01:40:33,175 --> 01:40:36,175
just like aggressive
and violent behavior, you know

2142
01:40:36,242 --> 01:40:38,110
That is difficult for everyone.

2143
01:40:38,176 --> 01:40:41,676
♪ Will tear it,
the torn loose ♪

2144
01:40:41,776 --> 01:40:44,410
We passed it
series of drummers.

2145
01:40:44,476 --> 01:40:45,810
We have Joey Brighton

2146
01:40:46,076 --> 01:40:49,410
and then we bring Ritchie Teeter
temporary content

2147
01:40:49,476 --> 01:40:50,543
until we find someone

2148
01:41:00,643 --> 01:41:03,043
Everyone we try
is competent, you know?

2149
01:41:03,110 --> 01:41:07,544
Good players, but only--
for some reason - not gelling,

2150
01:41:07,644 --> 01:41:10,377
And then so
we tried A.J.
Pero,

2151
01:41:10,477 --> 01:41:11,377
I knew right away.

2152
01:41:11,477 --> 01:41:14,477
I looked at Dee and she looked at my
, and we left like, "Oh yeah!"

2153
01:41:14,544 --> 01:41:15,677
Everyone!

2154
01:41:15,777 --> 01:41:18,777
On drums, A.J.
Pero!

2155
01:41:20,144 --> 01:41:21,611
It feels like me
missing link

2156
01:41:21,677 --> 01:41:24,077
I am what they need.
I am power

2157
01:41:24,144 --> 01:41:26,577
I am an additional fee,
do you know?

2158
01:41:26,644 --> 01:41:28,111
Load them, boom!

2159
01:41:29,177 --> 01:41:30,311
We signed the agreement.

2160
01:41:30,411 --> 01:41:34,477
We did our farewell concert
in the New York area in June.

2161
01:41:34,577 --> 01:41:36,512
Six years we've worked,

2162
01:41:36,612 --> 01:41:39,212
play, finish off our ass,

2163
01:41:39,278 --> 01:41:42,512
play for every sick person
bastards on Long Island,

2164
01:41:42,578 --> 01:41:44,512
New York, New Jersey,
Connecticut!

2165
01:41:44,612 --> 01:41:48,745
Doing our ball
to get us a recording contract

2166
01:41:48,812 --> 01:41:51,545
so we can be
what we are meant to be--

2167
01:41:51,645 --> 01:41:53,778
the biggest, heaviest,

2168
01:41:54,045 --> 01:41:57,578
rock 'n' roll band most kick-ass
In the world!

2169
01:41:59,612 --> 01:42:02,778
And now the time has come.

2170
01:42:03,045 --> 01:42:07,479
This is our last performance
before we leave Friday night

2171
01:42:07,546 --> 01:42:10,346
to fly to England
to record our first album.

2172
01:42:10,413 --> 01:42:13,079
And you all make it possible,
right!

2173
01:42:17,146 --> 01:42:19,813
Making "Under The Blade"
for Secret Records in the UK.

2174
01:42:20,113 --> 01:42:23,379
We recorded it on a farm
down in the south of England

2175
01:42:23,446 --> 01:42:25,413
in a small town called Battle.

2176
01:42:25,513 --> 01:42:28,179
We stayed in a 16th century hotel

2177
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:33,379
It's haunted and recorded
most of the albums are stored in

2178
01:42:33,446 --> 01:42:37,714
Our baffle to keep the sound in.
is straw bales.

2179
01:42:37,814 --> 01:42:40,080
Good?
Chickens running around

2180
01:42:40,147 --> 01:42:44,147
They say that when I play
my bass for that album,

2181
01:42:44,214 --> 01:42:47,780
most eggs
and cows

2182
01:42:48,047 --> 01:42:49,647
giving the most milk
they have ever done.

2183
01:42:49,714 --> 01:42:51,647
Very nice
just go

2184
01:42:51,714 --> 01:42:54,047
Sometimes when you go
and recording,

2185
01:42:54,114 --> 01:42:56,247
that's all you do there.

2186
01:42:56,314 --> 01:42:57,747
So there is no interference,

2187
01:42:57,814 --> 01:42:59,747
You know, you can't take calls
from home like,

2188
01:42:59,814 --> 01:43:02,180
"Look, the faucet
breaks you can come out and -"

2189
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,215
Deal with it!

2190
01:43:04,281 --> 01:43:06,515
You know, deal with it.
Like, "Oh my brother hit me!"

2191
01:43:06,581 --> 01:43:09,515
You know like... I... You know,
is like,

2192
01:43:09,581 --> 01:43:10,515
"I can't, I'm in England."

2193
01:43:15,715 --> 01:43:18,748
Motorhead is being headlining
a festival in Wales,

2194
01:43:18,815 --> 01:43:20,481
Wrexham Festival.

2195
01:43:20,581 --> 01:43:23,481
And we go down,
"From USA Twisted Sister."

2196
01:43:23,548 --> 01:43:26,315
And that's our first show
east of the Hamptons.

2197
01:43:26,381 --> 01:43:30,448
And we keep going, I don't know, maybe around noon?

2198
01:43:30,548 --> 01:43:35,116
Besides that, make up bands
are really unpopular.

2199
01:43:35,182 --> 01:43:40,382
There is not only resistance,
But there is hatred for the glam band.

2200
01:43:40,449 --> 01:43:42,716
And here's Twisted Sister--
full makeup

2201
01:43:42,782 --> 01:43:45,416
KISS has taken their makeup,
Your thoughts, at this time.

2202
01:43:45,482 --> 01:43:48,482
This - no--
no Motley Crue.

2203
01:43:48,549 --> 01:43:54,716
This is a Twisted Sister that carries
torches for glitter rock...

2204
01:43:54,782 --> 01:43:58,782
happened before Motorhead,
one of the most disgusting,

2205
01:43:59,082 --> 01:44:00,650
the ugliest band
In the world,

2206
01:44:00,750 --> 01:44:02,250
the joke will happen
that you would rather have

2207
01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:05,183
sex with people in their crowd
rather than girls -

2208
01:44:05,283 --> 01:44:07,117
They are much more beautiful.

2209
01:44:07,183 --> 01:44:08,450
And that doesn't mean
they're beautiful

2210
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:10,250
And they are tough.

2211
01:44:10,317 --> 01:44:11,750
And they are angry.

2212
01:44:12,050 --> 01:44:16,083
Uh, and we're not so sure  how it will go all
suddenly.

2213
01:44:16,183 --> 01:44:18,283
This band is scared -
and...

2214
01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:22,350
to the point where
is a discussion

2215
01:44:22,450 --> 01:44:23,750


2216
01:44:23,817 --> 01:44:27,583
on taking make-up
and costumes off.

2217
01:44:27,650 --> 01:44:31,218
And, uh, what people want
to go on clothes.

2218
01:44:31,284 --> 01:44:34,684
And I said
"I didn't do this.

2219
01:44:34,784 --> 01:44:36,518
We have used this
make-up and costume

2220
01:44:36,584 --> 01:44:39,184
for seven years now,
six and a half years?"

2221
01:44:39,284 --> 01:44:42,384
I said, "We go through -
I have fought for this, we have...

2222
01:44:42,451 --> 01:44:45,751
I am as scared as anyone else
but I don't--

2223
01:44:46,051 --> 01:44:48,451
I didn't come this far
to retreat."

2224
01:44:49,251 --> 01:44:52,218
I always joke that Lemmy knows
the smell of human waste.

2225
01:44:52,318 --> 01:44:54,351
When he passes
our dressing room door

2226
01:44:54,418 --> 01:44:57,684
He smells people
throw in their pants

2227
01:44:57,751 --> 01:45:00,752
And he entered and said,
"I will invite you."

2228
01:45:01,052 --> 01:45:02,119
Nobody knows who we are.

2229
01:45:02,219 --> 01:45:03,652
And all of a sudden
we are on stage

2230
01:45:03,719 --> 01:45:05,252
and it feels like
"Night Of The Living Dead."

2231
01:45:05,319 --> 01:45:08,719
I mean, people who are sitting
wake up, and they see,

2232
01:45:08,785 --> 01:45:11,319
and they walk
towards us like...

2233
01:45:11,419 --> 01:45:12,519
I swear you can see

2234
01:45:12,585 --> 01:45:14,685
bottle of people back
like this,

2235
01:45:14,785 --> 01:45:16,552
they are ready
to start throwing away dirt,

2236
01:45:16,619 --> 01:45:19,485
and Lemmy steps out and says -

2237
01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:25,185
I translate, because you
can't understand Lemmy,

2238
01:45:25,252 --> 01:45:27,252
but "These are some of my friends
,

2239
01:45:27,352 --> 01:45:30,153
give them listening
From America, give them a listen. "

2240
01:45:30,220 --> 01:45:32,486
And that only gives us
sufficient space

2241
01:45:32,553 --> 01:45:36,253
to go there
and do what we do.

2242
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,320
And we just
rip it.
of big ovations...

2243
01:45:40,453 --> 01:45:41,820
my life. offstage,

2244
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,786
someone says "Listen."

2245
01:45:45,053 --> 01:45:46,386
And you can hear the crowd

2246
01:45:46,453 --> 01:45:48,120
still singing,
"Twisted... Sister...

2247
01:45:48,186 --> 01:45:49,720


2248
01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:51,453


2249
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,353


2250
01:45:54,453 --> 01:45:56,320


2251
01:45:56,420 --> 01:45:58,421


2252
01:45:58,487 --> 01:46:02,754


2253
01:46:02,821 --> 01:46:06,254
Twisted... Sister...

2254
01:46:06,354 --> 01:46:07,121
Twisted... "

2255
01:46:07,154 --> 01:46:08,821
I gave up on the idea
wanted to become a rockstar

2256
01:46:08,821 --> 01:46:11,254
around the time I heard
notes Van Halen first,

2257
01:46:11,354 --> 01:46:14,754
and decided I needed
to change the side of the table.

2258
01:46:14,821 --> 01:46:17,821
So I thought I needed
to find a band

2259
01:46:18,121 --> 01:46:21,187
So I found Zebra
through extraordinary strings

2260
01:46:21,287 --> 01:46:23,587
synchronicity
and all sorts of other things.

2261
01:46:23,687 --> 01:46:25,722
And Randy Jackson,
who is the singer of Zebra,

2262
01:46:25,788 --> 01:46:27,122
says to me one day he left,

2263
01:46:27,188 --> 01:46:29,288
"Flom, you must
see Twisted Sister. "

2264
01:46:29,355 --> 01:46:31,155
He said," They are the best
live band in the world

2265
01:46:31,222 --> 01:46:34,622
We can't touch them,
no one can. "

2266
01:46:34,688 --> 01:46:36,522
So I said,
" Okay, I want to see them. "

2267
01:46:36,622 --> 01:46:38,522
He said," Let's open
for them on Wednesday,

2268
01:46:38,622 --> 01:46:41,255
in Mid-Hudson Civic Center
in Poughkeepsie. "

2269
01:46:41,355 --> 01:46:44,588
Civic Mid-Hudson Center
holds 3,000 people. the big

2270
01:46:44,655 --> 01:46:46,455
So I drove there
on Wednesday

2271
01:46:46,522 --> 01:46:48,288
Zebra playing,
polite applause

2272
01:46:48,388 --> 01:46:50,322
And when Twisted Sister
took the stage,

2273
01:46:50,422 --> 01:46:53,655


2274
01:46:53,722 --> 01:46:56,623


2275
01:46:56,689 --> 01:46:59,189


2276
01:46:59,256 --> 01:47:01,123
These 3,000 people are erupting.

2277
01:47:04,423 --> 01:47:05,589
And Dee got up
on the stage and he said,

2278
01:47:05,656 --> 01:47:09,223
"Okay, you're New York
bastard!"

2279
01:47:09,323 --> 01:47:12,089
He said, "We just returned
from England with a bloody bloody

2280
01:47:12,189 --> 01:47:13,756
and we are sick and damn
are tired of hearing that lime

2281
01:47:13,823 --> 01:47:15,656
telling us
how good we are!"

2282
01:47:15,756 --> 01:47:18,789
He said, "How are you New York?
bastards say?"

2283
01:47:19,089 --> 01:47:23,557
And all 3,000 children go,
"Twisted Fucking Sister!"

2284
01:47:23,657 --> 01:47:26,724
And I'm like, that's it.
I am finished.
I don't care  That's it.
This is religion.

2285
01:47:26,824 --> 01:47:30,390
And that is.

2286
01:47:30,457 --> 01:47:31,824


2287
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:36,057
And they play
and I'm just out of my mind,

2288
01:47:36,057 --> 01:47:37,590
I can't wait to get it
to the office the next day

2289
01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:39,190
to tell everyone
what I saw

2290
01:47:40,157 --> 01:47:41,557
That reaction,
"You need to sleep."

2291
01:47:41,624 --> 01:47:44,324
And uh, I do, but...

2292
01:47:44,390 --> 01:47:47,090
"This band is a joke
and everyone

2293
01:47:47,190 --> 01:47:49,324
in the Industry knows
about them.
They are idiots.

2294
01:47:49,390 --> 01:47:52,458
They are dressed in women's clothing
and it's nothing . "

2295
01:47:52,525 --> 01:47:54,525
And my mind, should
go see them again tonight

2296
01:47:54,591 --> 01:47:58,491
at the Fountain Casino
in New Jersey,

2297
01:47:58,558 --> 01:48:00,291


2298
01:48:00,391 --> 01:48:02,691
which is almost two hours
in the other direction

2299
01:48:02,758 --> 01:48:07,091
So sleep deprivation
and may be quite chaotic,

2300
01:48:07,191 --> 01:48:08,625
I wound
at the Fountain Casino.

2301
01:48:08,725 --> 01:48:10,191
And that is the same.

2302
01:48:10,258 --> 01:48:12,791
And I just left, this is as real as that!

2303
01:48:13,091 --> 01:48:15,625
Children give me a
road map

2304
01:48:15,691 --> 01:48:17,391
I still love him,

2305
01:48:17,491 --> 01:48:19,625
I like their music,
but I don't care if I like it

2306
01:48:19,691 --> 01:48:21,692
because I see
joy with children

2307
01:48:21,792 --> 01:48:24,492
And I leave,
I can market this.
This works

2308
01:48:24,559 --> 01:48:26,559
There is no question about that.

2309
01:48:26,659 --> 01:48:29,426
So again I went to the office

2310
01:48:29,526 --> 01:48:32,059
to be encountered
the same response

2311
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:33,792
And warm will be
too good from a word

2312
01:48:34,059 --> 01:48:36,192
The answer is,
"Go from here!

2313
01:48:36,292 --> 01:48:38,592
We didn't sign it.
Damn it!"

2314
01:48:41,326 --> 01:48:42,459
So that is part of the idea

2315
01:48:42,526 --> 01:48:45,292
to get them in front of
from as many people as possible.

2316
01:48:45,359 --> 01:48:48,226
We managed to get it
at Reading Festival,

2317
01:48:48,326 --> 01:48:52,460
which is a big show for
rock bands in those days,

2318
01:48:52,527 --> 01:48:55,527
I mean you have 70 or 80,000 people in one hit  Welcome to our event!

2319
01:49:00,260 --> 01:49:02,393
Legend reads it
for fans throwing.

2320
01:49:02,460 --> 01:49:08,593
People will throw items in the band.

2321
01:49:08,693 --> 01:49:10,627


2322
01:49:10,693 --> 01:49:13,393
This one is called
"Shoot 'Em Down!"

2323
01:49:13,460 --> 01:49:15,693
There are 40,000 people
in Reading

2324
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,460
There are 10,000 people
that likes you

2325
01:49:17,527 --> 01:49:18,693
and 30,000 who don't.

2326
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,094
So each band continues

2327
01:49:20,194 --> 01:49:22,694
has 10,000 and 30,000 of them
are not

2328
01:49:22,761 --> 01:49:24,294
And they all bear fruit.

2329
01:49:25,828 --> 01:49:27,461
You know that
peaches and pears

2330
01:49:27,528 --> 01:49:32,394
and apples and bananas
and Kotex and bottles of pee!

2331
01:49:32,494 --> 01:49:34,794
I mean, not a small bottle,
big fucking bottle!

2332
01:49:35,094 --> 01:49:36,494
And quite a stamp,

2333
01:49:36,561 --> 01:49:40,328
it ends late
until it hits something, and bang!

2334
01:49:40,428 --> 01:49:45,761
There is only a wave of goods
coming again
Dan Dee says,

2335
01:49:46,061 --> 01:49:48,228
"Wow, stop, stop!"

2336
01:49:48,328 --> 01:49:50,129
Walk forward and say...

2337
01:49:50,195 --> 01:49:57,095
There are some cowards
throwing things at us.

2338
01:49:57,195 --> 01:49:58,095
Pussies.

2339
01:49:58,195 --> 01:50:00,429
I am very angry
at the things thrown.

2340
01:50:00,495 --> 01:50:04,062
I'm angry.
I am very serious and I say.

2341
01:50:04,129 --> 01:50:08,195
Everyone who wants to throw
something on Twisted Sister,

2342
01:50:08,262 --> 01:50:12,429
after the show,
meet us back there - all of you,

2343
01:50:12,529 --> 01:50:17,496
I don't care - and you can do it
Tell us that we suck our faces.

2344
01:50:17,563 --> 01:50:20,130
You can try throwing something
on my face

2345
01:50:20,196 --> 01:50:21,596
But don't be a coward.

2346
01:50:21,696 --> 01:50:23,296
Don't throw something
and hit people

2347
01:50:23,363 --> 01:50:25,163
Here in front, okay?

2348
01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:26,530
Just come!

2349
01:50:26,630 --> 01:50:28,730
We are ready!
Are you ready?!

2350
01:50:30,630 --> 01:50:32,563
And it really changes
in outline.

2351
01:50:32,630 --> 01:50:35,330
No one throws the
, people cheer.

2352
01:50:35,396 --> 01:50:37,263
And they end
steal the entire show

2353
01:50:41,763 --> 01:50:43,263
I go sideways
from the stage

2354
01:50:43,330 --> 01:50:46,464
to see if there are people - just in case
anyone wants to fight me

2355
01:50:46,564 --> 01:50:48,164
So I go and nothing.

2356
01:50:48,231 --> 01:50:50,097
Only fans,
"We are with you, Dee!"

2357
01:50:50,164 --> 01:50:53,331
All are ready
for dust-up but nothing--

2358
01:50:53,397 --> 01:50:55,197
there is no--
no taker

2359
01:50:55,297 --> 01:50:56,831
We have won that day.

2360
01:50:58,764 --> 01:51:00,564
So we sit back there
and just admire

2361
01:51:00,631 --> 01:51:02,764
about the number of items
that are thrown into the band.

2362
01:51:03,064 --> 01:51:04,764
We never experienced it
before

2363
01:51:04,831 --> 01:51:08,097
We have this great Scottish man
work for us and he goes like,

2364
01:51:08,197 --> 01:51:10,131
I don't believe anyone throws a shite!

2365
01:51:10,231 --> 01:51:12,431
And we go like--
What do you say?

2366
01:51:12,531 --> 01:51:14,597
I can't believe
that someone threw a shite!

2367
01:51:14,664 --> 01:51:16,232
"Shite?"

2368
01:51:16,298 --> 01:51:20,565
He goes, "Damn! Someone
throws dirt on the stage!"

2369
01:51:20,632 --> 01:51:22,565
As hate filled like me,

2370
01:51:22,632 --> 01:51:25,465
Can I take it?
human waste and throw it away?

2371
01:51:25,565 --> 01:51:27,498
Then, where can
?

2372
01:51:27,598 --> 01:51:29,598
Has anyone succeeded?
Is this yours?

2373
01:51:29,665 --> 01:51:31,665
What is that--
do you save it for later?

2374
01:51:31,732 --> 01:51:33,665
Do you buy it at--
is there a shite stand,

2375
01:51:33,765 --> 01:51:35,265
You know, or are you standing up bad?

2376
01:51:35,365 --> 01:51:38,398
Can I have some crap I can throw
in the band?

2377
01:51:38,498 --> 01:51:41,265
Hot steam please,
with some chili on it.

2378
01:51:41,365 --> 01:51:44,198
I'm just trying to imagine -
what--

2379
01:51:44,265 --> 01:51:47,599
how this arrived at the point
to where it was actually on stage.

2380
01:51:47,666 --> 01:51:49,833
But yes, someone throws
human waste in the band.

2381
01:51:50,133 --> 01:51:53,166
That - that - you really
Must hate a band to do that.

2382
01:51:57,166 --> 01:51:59,766
When we come back,
is a victory again,

2383
01:52:00,066 --> 01:52:02,099
and, uh, playing for me I think it's a few months

2384
01:52:02,199 --> 01:52:03,499
when we
should return

2385
01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:09,599
and release the recording there
and do a mini tour.

2386
01:52:09,666 --> 01:52:12,266
We plan to bring them
to do another great tour

2387
01:52:12,366 --> 01:52:16,600
and really stuck in
with lots of consecutive dates

2388
01:52:16,667 --> 01:52:20,834
it will happen
to a large audience, and...

2389
01:52:21,134 --> 01:52:24,200
We just made an
agreement with Virgin

2390
01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:26,667
so that the distribution
will be great

2391
01:52:26,734 --> 01:52:27,700
We got big progress.

2392
01:52:27,767 --> 01:52:30,467
So there is a lot of money
in the bank ready to do everything.

2393
01:52:30,567 --> 01:52:32,767
Basically we go home,
and we take more ads.

2394
01:52:33,067 --> 01:52:34,267
Twisted Sister Big Tour
from Europe

2395
01:52:34,334 --> 01:52:35,400
Thank you very much.
Goodbye, New York.

2396
01:52:35,467 --> 01:52:37,100
This is very good,
blah blah blah.

2397
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,500
And we say, "Goodbye, Long Island.
Goodbye, New Jersey.

2398
01:52:40,567 --> 01:52:42,635
Thank you for the amazing 10 years.

2399
01:52:42,735 --> 01:52:44,368
We go to see the wizard. Thank you good night.

2400
01:52:44,435 --> 01:52:45,768
Because it's him!

2401
01:52:45,835 --> 01:52:48,335
We go

2402
01:52:48,401 --> 01:52:49,635
We go to England.

2403
01:52:49,701 --> 01:52:51,401
And when you send us go
to wild blue there,

2404
01:52:51,468 --> 01:52:53,701


2405
01:52:53,801 --> 01:52:56,301


2406
01:52:56,401 --> 01:52:59,735
tell us how you feel
about rock 'n' roll.

2407
01:53:01,501 --> 01:53:02,635
Now get ready!

2408
01:53:04,335 --> 01:53:05,501
Are you ready?

2409
01:53:07,101 --> 01:53:09,101
Are you ready ?!

2410
01:53:09,201 --> 01:53:10,801
When we release recordings

2411
01:53:11,068 --> 01:53:12,569
it's straight
into the national chart

2412
01:53:12,636 --> 01:53:14,469
That is the first top 75 weeks.

2413
01:53:14,536 --> 01:53:18,669
And to do that outside the box, it's not easy  And especially for metal
notes at that time.

2414
01:53:18,769 --> 01:53:22,136
Get ready to go
for Europe, September '82.

2415
01:53:22,236 --> 01:53:26,269
And my lawyer calls me.

2416
01:53:26,336 --> 01:53:28,069
"Are you sitting?"

2417
01:53:28,136 --> 01:53:29,202
"Yes."

2418
01:53:29,269 --> 01:53:31,569
"Secret Records go bankrupt."

2419
01:53:31,636 --> 01:53:33,569
"You're kidding."

2420
01:53:33,636 --> 01:53:34,769
"No. The album came out

2421
01:53:34,836 --> 01:53:36,202


2422
01:53:36,302 --> 01:53:38,102
and the label goes
bankrupt the next day. "

2423
01:53:38,169 --> 01:53:40,437
It just disappeared overnight.

2424
01:53:40,503 --> 01:53:43,303
My partner disappears
with money,

2425
01:53:43,370 --> 01:53:45,537
and goes with it
my company.

2426
01:53:45,603 --> 01:53:49,070
And I'm left together - uh,

2427
01:53:49,137 --> 01:53:53,503
less than anything and, uh,
The band was left without a tour.

2428
01:53:54,770 --> 01:53:57,803
So we can't play

2429
01:53:58,070 --> 01:54:00,237
because we now
tell everyone that we are on tour.

2430
01:54:00,303 --> 01:54:01,803
So we can't play.

2431
01:54:02,103 --> 01:54:05,370
So we don't.
We hide in our place
home for, like, two months.

2432
01:54:05,437 --> 01:54:08,670
It is a long, cold winter.

2433
01:54:10,504 --> 01:54:13,071
Somewhere around
50th time

2434
01:54:13,138 --> 01:54:15,338
I was told to shut up
about Twisted Sister.

2435
01:54:15,438 --> 01:54:17,804
I was called to the office
from the president

2436
01:54:18,071 --> 01:54:20,204
from Atlantic Records,
Doug Morris.

2437
01:54:20,271 --> 01:54:23,271
I was told that
if I ever mentioned

2438
01:54:23,371 --> 01:54:25,338
Twisted Sister name again,

2439
01:54:25,404 --> 01:54:27,671
I was fired from my job.

2440
01:54:27,771 --> 01:54:31,438
So this is a problem.

2441
01:54:31,538 --> 01:54:34,804
And the solution
I found is--

2442
01:54:35,071 --> 01:54:39,272
One day I saw a man named
Phil Carson in the office.

2443
01:54:39,339 --> 01:54:42,239
I don't know him, but I know
he is a very important person

2444
01:54:42,305 --> 01:54:46,605
And, uh, he's from England,
from our English company.

2445
01:54:46,705 --> 01:54:49,205
And I think maybe
he will help me

2446
01:54:49,305 --> 01:54:54,272
So I contacted him
in the hallway.

2447
01:54:54,372 --> 01:54:56,339
And I have a cassette made.

2448
01:54:56,405 --> 01:54:58,839
And I have a lot of
from sheets of handwritten paper,

2449
01:54:59,105 --> 01:55:00,305
Because I don't know how to type
.

2450
01:55:00,372 --> 01:55:03,272
And I said, "Phil, you don't know my
, you have to help me, man.

2451
01:55:05,472 --> 01:55:07,740
You have to sign these people."

2452
01:55:07,806 --> 01:55:10,140
And he handed me
this manilla envelope

2453
01:55:10,206 --> 01:55:12,673
and I put it in my bag.

2454
01:55:12,740 --> 01:55:15,806
And I went to get
in my first class seat

2455
01:55:16,073 --> 01:55:19,106
and sip my first class champagne.

2456
01:55:19,206 --> 01:55:21,406
And after the flight takes off
I think,

2457
01:55:21,473 --> 01:55:23,840
"Oh, I'll listen to it
for a small Jason recording."

2458
01:55:24,106 --> 01:55:28,440
And the first thing I pull out is this handwritten memo

2459
01:55:28,506 --> 01:55:30,106
from Jason to me,

2460
01:55:30,206 --> 01:55:33,740
and that must happen
12 paper pages stenographer

2461
01:55:33,806 --> 01:55:35,406
with very small writing.

2462
01:55:35,473 --> 01:55:38,774
And I see it, and it turns out that
won't wade through this.

2463
01:55:38,841 --> 01:55:43,341
Then I pulled out the photo
from this band he owned.

2464
01:55:43,407 --> 01:55:46,507
And they dress this group
in women's clothes!

2465
01:55:46,574 --> 01:55:48,607
Oh God, do you know ?!

2466
01:55:48,707 --> 01:55:51,674
So I put everything
in a sick garbage bag

2467
01:55:51,741 --> 01:55:54,074
and never listen to the tape
and throw it away

2468
01:55:59,507 --> 01:56:01,441
There is no place left to go.

2469
01:56:01,507 --> 01:56:04,641
At this point, after taking it
so far for 10 years,

2470
01:56:04,741 --> 01:56:06,208
it has reached the end.

2471
01:56:06,275 --> 01:56:09,808
We have run out of our markets
in America.

2472
01:56:10,108 --> 01:56:14,142
We have created all of this hype
in the UK.

2473
01:56:14,208 --> 01:56:17,442
that we will not do it
can cash in

2474
01:56:17,508 --> 01:56:18,642
and damage our reputation there.

2475
01:56:18,708 --> 01:56:22,708
We will blow us
reputation on two continents

2476
01:56:22,808 --> 01:56:24,575
And we sit there
freaking out,

2477
01:56:24,675 --> 01:56:27,075
"What will we do?
What will we do?"

2478
01:56:27,175 --> 01:56:28,642
And our manager said,
"Do you know what?

2479
01:56:28,742 --> 01:56:30,208
You laid this foundation
in England.

2480
01:56:30,208 --> 01:56:32,175
You have this recording contract
The secret was unsuccessful.

2481
01:56:32,175 --> 01:56:33,542
Maybe we can something in the UK. "

2482
01:56:33,642 --> 01:56:37,509
Somehow the label,
before they go up,

2483
01:56:37,609 --> 01:56:40,576
has succeeded
for the appearance finagle for us

2484
01:56:40,643 --> 01:56:43,276
on the live television program
is called" Tube. "

2485
01:56:43,376 --> 01:56:46,709
I don't remember its existence
a big discussion

2486
01:56:46,809 --> 01:56:51,309
other than the unique
chance,

2487
01:56:51,409 --> 01:56:56,576
and we hope to use it
to arouse interest to encourage us,

2488
01:56:56,676 --> 01:57:02,309
You know, to get a new deal,
or something, you know

2489
01:57:02,376 --> 01:57:03,610
We don't have one another.

2490
01:57:03,677 --> 01:57:06,144
We are stuck here.
We have to go there.

2491
01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:09,310
This is really - it's the only
that makes sense.

2492
01:57:09,377 --> 01:57:10,810
But how do we do it?

2493
01:57:11,110 --> 01:57:12,210
We need money.

2494
01:57:12,277 --> 01:57:16,610
So we go to friends and family,
as much as we can,

2495
01:57:16,677 --> 01:57:18,777
and get a small amount,
but it's not close enough.

2496
01:57:18,844 --> 01:57:22,077
So Jay Jay and I go to -
I believe that -

2497
01:57:22,144 --> 01:57:24,277
the three clubs we have are very
good relations with

2498
01:57:24,344 --> 01:57:27,444
Difficult people, tough people.

2499
01:57:27,544 --> 01:57:30,310
Some of them are people I think
have lent money, cash before.

2500
01:57:30,410 --> 01:57:33,178
But not under this requirement.

2501
01:57:33,245 --> 01:57:34,845
Below "listen we will give it
back to you

2502
01:57:35,111 --> 01:57:37,211
"If everything goes well.
Otherwise, we will only--

2503
01:57:37,278 --> 01:57:38,611
we will play a few dates
for you for free."

2504
01:57:38,711 --> 01:57:40,078
You know,
we are friends with them

2505
01:57:40,145 --> 01:57:41,778
You know
after a while you're dealing

2506
01:57:41,845 --> 01:57:43,778
with someone to,
you know, a few years -

2507
01:57:44,078 --> 01:57:44,845
we are friends with them

2508
01:57:45,111 --> 01:57:46,345
They ask us
to give them some money

2509
01:57:46,411 --> 01:57:49,445
to bring it
and, uh, we helped them out.

2510
01:57:49,545 --> 01:57:52,445
We fly alone
like in a cattle car.

2511
01:57:52,545 --> 01:57:54,711
That's not even a coach.

2512
01:57:54,811 --> 01:57:56,245
There is first class,

2513
01:57:56,311 --> 01:57:59,411
business class, coach, and then
where you put the dog

2514
01:57:59,478 --> 01:58:00,245
That's where we are.

2515
01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:11,479
A week before Christmas
we finally arrived in England

2516
01:58:11,579 --> 01:58:15,379
to do "Tube"
on live English television.

2517
01:58:15,446 --> 01:58:18,246
Alright, hello and good night
to "Tube."

2518
01:58:18,312 --> 01:58:20,446
Tonight we go
to have a number of bands

2519
01:58:20,512 --> 01:58:22,212
who is guaranteed
makes your ears bleed.

2520
01:58:23,346 --> 01:58:27,579
Here we are, Harimau Pantang,
and Iggy Pop.

2521
01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:30,613
The only problem
is it a live broadcast

2522
01:58:30,713 --> 01:58:32,747
So as we don't have
it is enough to worry.

2523
01:58:32,847 --> 01:58:35,147
We only have 20 minutes
to get our point on,

2524
01:58:35,213 --> 01:58:37,247
and talk about getting
We mean,

2525
01:58:37,313 --> 01:58:39,613
Oh by the way,
You can't curse.

2526
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,613
So this is
half vocabulary Dee.

2527
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,213
Get out of the door

2528
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:44,747
But what's the problem?

2529
01:58:44,813 --> 01:58:47,213
That is only the most
The important performances we have

2530
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,347
or will never play
in the life of the band.

2531
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,680
They look like women,
they play like men,

2532
01:58:54,780 --> 01:58:57,547
and they are the biggest
a group of hellraisers

2533
01:58:57,613 --> 01:58:58,747
to get out of America!

2534
01:58:58,813 --> 01:59:00,714
This is Twisted Sister!

2535
01:59:03,448 --> 01:59:05,314
Good night!

2536
01:59:07,848 --> 01:59:09,748
Welcome to our event!

2537
01:59:09,848 --> 01:59:12,348
I was in the studio all day

2538
01:59:12,448 --> 01:59:16,148
and holding concerts
sold in America.

2539
01:59:16,214 --> 01:59:17,748
And I made my call,

2540
01:59:17,848 --> 01:59:22,381
and Phil Carson
from Atlantic Records are there.

2541
01:59:22,481 --> 01:59:25,514
And he's in the next office
doing the same thing

2542
01:59:25,614 --> 01:59:27,348
So I asked what he did,
and he said,

2543
01:59:27,414 --> 01:59:29,382
"I manage this group
called Twisted Sister,"

2544
01:59:29,449 --> 01:59:30,715
I have never heard of.

2545
01:59:30,815 --> 01:59:34,215
And I see all these people
move back and forth

2546
01:59:34,282 --> 01:59:36,715
which is seven feet tall
and I think,

2547
01:59:36,815 --> 01:59:37,849
"Who are they?"

2548
01:59:38,115 --> 01:59:41,582
And then I realized, of course,
that they were Twisted Sisters.

2549
01:59:41,682 --> 01:59:46,715
Which, you know,
doesn't lure them to me,

2550
01:59:46,782 --> 01:59:49,249
I am quite serious
about my rock 'n' roll.

2551
01:59:52,082 --> 01:59:55,715
♪ What you don't know
sure can hurt you ♪

2552
01:59:55,782 --> 01:59:59,650
♪ What you can't see
makes you scream ♪

2553
01:59:59,750 --> 02:00:03,816
♪ What you don't know
sure can hurt you ♪

2554
02:00:04,083 --> 02:00:09,083
♪ What you don't have is what
You dream, what you dream of ♪

2555
02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:11,283
♪ Dreams, dreams, dreams... ♪

2556
02:00:34,117 --> 02:00:36,684
Mark told me that they have
the following is good in America  and will I come and see them?

2557
02:00:36,784 --> 02:00:38,551
Good night!

2558
02:00:38,651 --> 02:00:41,517


2559
02:00:41,584 --> 02:00:43,851
Welcome to "The Tube"
on Channel 4!

2560
02:00:44,117 --> 02:00:49,251
We are Twisted Sister!

2561
02:00:49,317 --> 02:00:52,151
I go down
and see a little set.

2562
02:00:52,217 --> 02:00:53,751
And I think,
"Ah, they're not half bad."

2563
02:00:54,284 --> 02:00:55,818
Get your hands...

2564
02:01:09,685 --> 02:01:11,285
In the studio

2565
02:01:11,352 --> 02:01:14,318
there must be
some heavy metal fans there,

2566
02:01:14,418 --> 02:01:17,185
which is very reactive
and very responsive to the band.

2567
02:01:17,252 --> 02:01:21,485
But most rooms
do not respond to

2568
02:01:21,585 --> 02:01:24,118
And we have three songs.

2569
02:01:24,186 --> 02:01:27,153
And I have to reach the audience.

2570
02:01:27,219 --> 02:01:29,419
We get the entire front
go here

2571
02:01:29,486 --> 02:01:33,086
But I think the back is

2572
02:01:33,153 --> 02:01:34,853
and part of the balcony must be
on Quaaludes or something,

2573
02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:38,219
because they all stand
Will happen, "Uh..."

2574
02:01:38,286 --> 02:01:44,586
Again, Twisted Sister always has
That attitude, you know,

2575
02:01:44,686 --> 02:01:45,819
we don't fight fair

2576
02:01:46,086 --> 02:01:47,519
I don't think
is good enough

2577
02:01:47,586 --> 02:01:50,153
And I think the problem is here
do we need help

2578
02:01:50,253 --> 02:01:52,219
We have to bring out
artillery, you understand?

2579
02:01:52,319 --> 02:01:55,287
And we called Lemmy, who is our friend now  and ask if he will come
come out and play with us

2580
02:01:55,354 --> 02:01:57,187
And he and Brian Robinson
come out.

2581
02:01:57,287 --> 02:01:59,254
Yes!
This is Robbo!

2582
02:01:59,354 --> 02:02:00,754


2583
02:02:00,854 --> 02:02:02,487
Lemmy and Robbo from Motorhead!

2584
02:02:02,487 --> 02:02:03,420
Can we hear it for them ?!

2585
02:02:03,420 --> 02:02:05,087
Come on now.
Let's hear for them.

2586
02:02:06,220 --> 02:02:08,220
Ready let's go, come on!

2587
02:02:16,087 --> 02:02:17,420
Alright okay

2588
02:02:26,855 --> 02:02:28,588
Come on let's listen now!

2589
02:02:28,688 --> 02:02:31,188
The audience is not
react well.

2590
02:02:31,288 --> 02:02:33,088
Everyone doesn't get
into it,

2591
02:02:33,188 --> 02:02:35,488
and if this audience,
in the room,

2592
02:02:35,555 --> 02:02:37,221
get the full effect
from Twisted Sister

2593
02:02:37,321 --> 02:02:39,721
not responding,
what people will

2594
02:02:39,788 --> 02:02:41,655
sit in their comfortable chair
at home--

2595
02:02:41,721 --> 02:02:42,788
What are their reactions?

2596
02:02:42,855 --> 02:02:47,255
We got Twisted Sister
away from America.

2597
02:02:47,321 --> 02:02:50,521
We have Motorhead.

2598
02:02:50,588 --> 02:02:52,489
But it seems that still
is a problem

2599
02:02:52,556 --> 02:02:54,789
We still lose people in the audience.

2600
02:02:54,856 --> 02:02:58,156
And that's where I speak,
again don't fight fair

2601
02:02:58,222 --> 02:03:00,556
You can do something where
You can talk to an audience

2602
02:03:00,622 --> 02:03:01,856
and communicate your feelings

2603
02:03:01,856 --> 02:03:03,322
But I think you people want
something else

2604
02:03:03,322 --> 02:03:04,856
before you give us what we need.

2605
02:03:05,122 --> 02:03:07,089
I think you have a little
hang-up, some of you people.

2606
02:03:07,156 --> 02:03:08,789
I think there are some people
out there

2607
02:03:09,089 --> 02:03:12,322
who can't take Twisted Sister,
Because of the way we see.

2608
02:03:12,389 --> 02:03:14,722
That's the problem,
isn't it now

2609
02:03:14,789 --> 02:03:16,089
And you won't do it
listen to us,

2610
02:03:16,089 --> 02:03:17,656
You won't pay attention to us
out there, now will you?

2611
02:03:17,656 --> 02:03:19,456
No, you won't pay attention.

2612
02:03:19,522 --> 02:03:22,323
Because we have make up,
that seems to be a problem.

2613
02:03:22,423 --> 02:03:24,557
So we have to take the results
up off, right now right?

2614
02:03:24,657 --> 02:03:26,290
I told my roadie,

2615
02:03:26,357 --> 02:03:30,657
I said, "Take my can
the makeup and towel remover,

2616
02:03:30,723 --> 02:03:35,123
and have it on the side
from the stage, if I call him."

2617
02:03:35,190 --> 02:03:38,723
I did not talk to the band
About this, I did not discuss it.

2618
02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:42,223
I just - behind my mind,
have an idea

2619
02:03:42,290 --> 02:03:43,457
Give me the item.

2620
02:04:00,191 --> 02:04:02,258
Is that the problem, man?
I make too much, man?

2621
02:04:02,324 --> 02:04:03,324
You can't take me seriously  I'm not crazy enough for you?

2622
02:04:03,424 --> 02:04:04,358
Now I don't have
there is no make up,

2623
02:04:04,358 --> 02:04:05,724
So what will you do now?

2624
02:04:05,724 --> 02:04:07,124
Now you have to give yourself
to me, okay

2625
02:04:07,124 --> 02:04:08,458
Don't let me be disappointed,

2626
02:04:08,558 --> 02:04:09,558
I did something for you
It's Christmas time.

2627
02:04:09,624 --> 02:04:11,524
Give Twisted Sister
what they want!

2628
02:04:11,591 --> 02:04:13,324
And the place is crazy.

2629
02:04:13,391 --> 02:04:15,658
Aah!

2630
02:04:15,758 --> 02:04:17,491
Come on!

2631
02:04:31,092 --> 02:04:32,625


2632
02:04:43,259 --> 02:04:45,292
Thank you!

2633
02:04:45,359 --> 02:04:47,393
Robbo Robinson!

2634
02:04:47,493 --> 02:04:50,493
- And Lemmy!
- Twisted Sister - alright!

2635
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:55,526
So they destroyed the audience
and it was an amazing show.

2636
02:04:55,593 --> 02:04:59,426
So I turned to Mark.
And I said,
"Okay, I'll sign it."

2637
02:04:59,526 --> 02:05:02,126
And he looked at me and said,
"To the Atlantic?"

2638
02:05:02,193 --> 02:05:03,693
And I said, "Well
where I work, you know

2639
02:05:03,793 --> 02:05:05,460
I will sign them
to the Atlantic.

2640
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:06,626
He doesn't say a word.

2641
02:05:06,693 --> 02:05:08,593
Then he says," Okay
come back and meet the band . "

2642
02:05:08,693 --> 02:05:09,793
I say," Not at all. "

2643
02:05:09,860 --> 02:05:12,860
Who wants to meet that?
"I said I would sign it."

2644
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:14,693
He said, "They will never go
Believe me!"

2645
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:16,261
And he left,
"Atlantic Records."

2646
02:05:16,327 --> 02:05:18,827
And I think, "There are
thousand record labels!

2647
02:05:19,094 --> 02:05:22,694
One label where the quote is
From the president of the record company,

2648
02:05:22,761 --> 02:05:25,827
" The next person
who mentions this band! '"

2649
02:05:26,094 --> 02:05:28,394
I don't want to say anything
because - but I--

2650
02:05:28,494 --> 02:05:29,661
He walks out.

2651
02:05:29,761 --> 02:05:31,327
" We are messed up,
we will not be signed! "

2652
02:05:31,394 --> 02:05:34,494
The next day Phil Carson
goes in and he leaves,

2653
02:05:34,561 --> 02:05:36,427
"So boy, I will sign you
to Atlantic Records,

2654
02:05:36,527 --> 02:05:38,561
" but I have to tell you very
Interesting conversations that I have.

2655
02:05:38,627 --> 02:05:40,761
Do you know this person?
named Doug Morris? "

2656
02:05:40,827 --> 02:05:41,761
" Yes. "

2657
02:05:41,827 --> 02:05:44,661
I called on Tuesday
the following weekend

2658
02:05:44,727 --> 02:05:48,395
I had seen Twisted Sister
and said,

2659
02:05:48,395 --> 02:05:50,328
" Oh, I have a new band,
I just signed a band .

2660
02:05:50,328 --> 02:05:53,262
This is the first time
I have signed an American band

2661
02:05:53,362 --> 02:05:56,462
But they happen to be finished
and they are really good. "

2662
02:05:56,528 --> 02:06:00,395
And Doug Morris said,
" What did they call? "

2663
02:06:00,495 --> 02:06:02,128
I said, "Twisted Sister."

2664
02:06:02,195 --> 02:06:04,528
When Doug is like,
"Are you kidding me?

2665
02:06:04,595 --> 02:06:05,528
They suck!
They suck!

2666
02:06:05,528 --> 02:06:06,795
I don't want them on my label.
They suck!"

2667
02:06:06,795 --> 02:06:09,762
And Phil goes, "Of course they suck,
but you know that

2668
02:06:09,762 --> 02:06:11,228
will sell lots of notes!"

2669
02:06:13,262 --> 02:06:16,163
We noted
"You Can't Stop Rock 'n' Roll."

2670
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:19,796
We have a record in England,
sold out tour,

2671
02:06:19,863 --> 02:06:22,463
we are above The Pops--
three times.

2672
02:06:22,563 --> 02:06:25,529
We do our best.
Come back to America.

2673
02:06:25,596 --> 02:06:28,196
Of course,
Atlantic Atlantic Records .--

2674
02:06:28,263 --> 02:06:30,396
zero support, no.

2675
02:06:32,596 --> 02:06:35,129
Records out and
as you can imagine

2676
02:06:35,196 --> 02:06:36,663
That is not a big priority
for the label

2677
02:06:36,729 --> 02:06:41,663
That, uh,
The staff didn't work that.

2678
02:06:41,729 --> 02:06:42,663
I'm working on it.

2679
02:06:42,729 --> 02:06:43,730
I'm calling a radio station.

2680
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:46,397
I do a lot of things
I am not allowed to do it.

2681
02:06:46,464 --> 02:06:50,530
But if it's not a priority
For companies, it's very difficult.

2682
02:06:50,564 --> 02:06:51,864
We chew a little
to get out

2683
02:06:51,864 --> 02:06:54,697
and prove ourselves
to the world but, you know,

2684
02:06:54,764 --> 02:06:56,564
no one wants us
to go on a tour with them.

2685
02:06:56,630 --> 02:07:00,364
So we open this tour open
for Krokus and Blackfoot.

2686
02:07:00,430 --> 02:07:01,864
29 minutes.

2687
02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:04,097
And we don't have a budget, you know.

2688
02:07:04,164 --> 02:07:07,130
And hire a Winnebago
and drive 56 hours.

2689
02:07:07,230 --> 02:07:10,330
56 hours to Salt Lake City

2690
02:07:10,397 --> 02:07:11,397
and Winnebago
then break down.

2691
02:07:11,497 --> 02:07:13,431
And Mark is below it
and fix it,

2692
02:07:13,531 --> 02:07:15,531
You know, like he would do it
on Long Island, right?

2693
02:07:15,598 --> 02:07:17,365
All to play 29 minutes.

2694
02:07:17,431 --> 02:07:20,631
But we were very bent
when playing 29 minutes.

2695
02:07:20,698 --> 02:07:22,198
I mean, that's what you do, right?

2696
02:07:22,298 --> 02:07:25,631
Every city we visit
we make an impression

2697
02:07:25,731 --> 02:07:28,131
Every city we go
for us to sell recordings

2698
02:07:28,198 --> 02:07:30,531
Every city we visit,
representatives of the local Atlantic

2699
02:07:30,598 --> 02:07:33,098
will call
following Monday and go,

2700
02:07:33,198 --> 02:07:37,331
"Damn, I just saw
the future of rock 'n' roll.

2701
02:07:37,398 --> 02:07:40,198
Their name is Twisted Sister."

2702
02:07:40,265 --> 02:07:43,166
And its main office,
Doug Morris and company,

2703
02:07:43,266 --> 02:07:45,832
must hear
the dreaded word "Twisted"  repeatedly.

2704
02:07:46,132 --> 02:07:47,799
One day I was called
to the president's office

2705
02:07:47,866 --> 02:07:51,099
from Atlantic Records,
Doug Morris,

2706
02:07:51,166 --> 02:07:52,566
and he said, "Do you know what?

2707
02:07:52,666 --> 02:07:54,699
This -
this is the real thing."

2708
02:07:54,799 --> 02:07:56,832
And they will
do new recordings with Twisted.

2709
02:07:57,132 --> 02:07:59,599
They will push
all the buttons

2710
02:07:59,699 --> 02:08:01,532
and withdraw all stops,

2711
02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:02,866


2712
02:08:03,166 --> 02:08:05,699
throw money into this object
and make it happen

2713
02:08:05,766 --> 02:08:08,499
Doug Morris,
head of Atlantic Records,

2714
02:08:08,599 --> 02:08:10,267
our enemy--

2715
02:08:10,367 --> 02:08:13,233
who definitely hates
has me, this is nonsense,

2716
02:08:13,300 --> 02:08:16,200
dirtbag, Dee Snider
in his office--

2717
02:08:16,267 --> 02:08:17,667
tell me what they will do

2718
02:08:17,767 --> 02:08:20,433
And I debated with him
about different movements

2719
02:08:20,533 --> 02:08:21,733
they want to make

2720
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:25,700
He has a lot of ideas
how to clean Twisted Sister.

2721
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,433
And I argue with everything.

2722
02:08:28,533 --> 02:08:30,533
You know,
our fans, our fans, our fans.

2723
02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:34,467
And finally Doug has it!

2724
02:08:34,567 --> 02:08:39,334
And he said, "How many fans?
what do you think?"

2725
02:08:39,401 --> 02:08:42,601
So I did some math, you know,
we sold 150,000 albums,

2726
02:08:42,668 --> 02:08:44,868
added there are abroad,
so whatever it is,

2727
02:08:45,134 --> 02:08:49,368
I come with that number
100,000 - 150,000 - 200,000.

2728
02:08:49,434 --> 02:08:53,101
And he said,
"What do you want?  And this is it
12 year old young man

2729
02:08:53,168 --> 02:08:58,134
on Atlantic Records
and see the president,

2730
02:08:58,201 --> 02:09:00,168
you know,
this big important man.

2731
02:09:02,468 --> 02:09:05,101
And I give up.

2732
02:09:05,201 --> 02:09:09,102
I say, "I want to have a platinum record."

2733
02:09:09,202 --> 02:09:11,202


2734
02:09:11,269 --> 02:09:12,402


2735
02:09:12,469 --> 02:09:17,669


2736
02:09:17,769 --> 02:09:21,502
He said, "Okay, shut up.
This is what you have to do."

2737
02:09:22,502 --> 02:09:24,302
Of course behind
I realize

2738
02:09:24,402 --> 02:09:26,635
the correct answer is,
"I want both."

2739
02:09:26,702 --> 02:09:28,802
You know,
there are ways to achieve both.

2740
02:09:28,869 --> 02:09:32,702
But I'm really thrown
with that statement

2741
02:09:32,769 --> 02:09:35,835
You know I never thought
in terms of millions.

2742
02:09:36,135 --> 02:09:38,336
But here is a man,
This is a record label

2743
02:09:38,436 --> 02:09:40,136
and that's the only way
they really think

2744
02:09:40,203 --> 02:09:43,303
They think in terms of
500,000, one million,

2745
02:09:43,370 --> 02:09:46,636
two million,
do you know?

2746
02:09:46,736 --> 02:09:51,503
We finally sell three and a half
million "stay hungry" in the U.S.

2747
02:09:51,570 --> 02:09:52,770
So, that's cool.

2748
02:10:07,504 --> 02:10:10,704
I always wonder
how fans feel

2749
02:10:10,804 --> 02:10:13,337
When we finally pass it
and become so big,

2750
02:10:13,437 --> 02:10:15,471
they must have felt it
very justified

2751
02:10:15,537 --> 02:10:18,571
What is the Donnas in the world?
feel the justification

2752
02:10:18,637 --> 02:10:22,204
for their five unforgettable days-a-
weeks-trips-everywhere

2753
02:10:22,271 --> 02:10:25,837
Twisted Sister diehard support?

2754
02:10:26,104 --> 02:10:30,837
You know...
when you are so close to the band,

2755
02:10:31,137 --> 02:10:36,138
like really feet away
from a band, and you get a bit,

2756
02:10:36,205 --> 02:10:38,472
I don't know, maybe it's so possessive about them?

2757
02:10:38,572 --> 02:10:43,205
And you have this feeling,
um, you know it will go

2758
02:10:43,305 --> 02:10:46,572
So you really are
happy for them that they are

2759
02:10:46,638 --> 02:10:48,738
get success
that they deserve it,

2760
02:10:48,805 --> 02:10:50,472
and recognized, you know,

2761
02:10:50,538 --> 02:10:54,238
around the world for what they do here
in our little club

2762
02:10:54,338 --> 02:10:56,672
But at the same time
little tearing my heart

2763
02:10:56,772 --> 02:10:58,105
because I will lose them

2764
02:11:27,106 --> 02:11:28,673
Good night everyone!

2765
02:11:28,773 --> 02:11:30,373
We... Twisted...

2766
02:11:30,773 --> 02:11:31,706
Fucking...

2767
02:11:31,773 --> 02:11:33,774
Brother!

2768
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:50,540
Whoa!
What is Twisted Sister
about that?

2769
02:11:50,607 --> 02:11:52,340
Well it's simple!

2770
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,607
We are just about having fun.

2771
02:11:55,707 --> 02:11:56,774
That's it!

2772
02:11:56,874 --> 02:11:58,440
We just want to have fun!

2773
02:11:58,507 --> 02:12:02,241
We want to forget work.
We want to forget about school.

2774
02:12:02,308 --> 02:12:04,308
We like to forget
about home problems

2775
02:12:04,375 --> 02:12:05,608
We want to forget everything

2776
02:12:05,675 --> 02:12:07,241
except partying

2777
02:12:07,341 --> 02:12:08,808
And we party hard.
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