1 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:34,451 I often wonder about the nature of reality. 2 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:36,661 About our relationship to the creative force 3 00:00:36,745 --> 00:00:38,955 that forge the particles of our stars 4 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,916 and intertwine them with the molecules of our bodies. 5 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:43,501 Who are we? 6 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:45,336 And where are we actually sitting 7 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:47,505 within the architecture of our universe? 8 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:49,048 Are we alone? 9 00:00:49,340 --> 00:00:52,510 Or is the answer simply stranger than we can think? 10 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:55,305 My name is Jeremy Corbell. 11 00:00:55,764 --> 00:00:58,475 I seek to weaponize your curiosity. 12 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:01,603 And if you're ready to suspend your own prejudice, 13 00:01:02,395 --> 00:01:05,982 welcome to the world of extraordinary beliefs. 14 00:02:50,128 --> 00:02:53,506 I'm just so tired of all this already. 15 00:02:54,048 --> 00:02:56,467 My world will not be turned upside down. 16 00:02:56,843 --> 00:02:58,094 I just wanna live my life. 17 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,139 I mean, who would wanna relive this? 18 00:03:01,222 --> 00:03:03,057 Either people are gonna believe you or you don't. 19 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:04,893 It's kind of put me on the edge again. 20 00:03:20,658 --> 00:03:24,454 Dr. Roger Leir did confirm I was gonna be patient Number Seventeen. 21 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:27,040 So you're gonna get this thing out? 22 00:03:27,832 --> 00:03:29,208 That's what he's telling me. 23 00:03:30,668 --> 00:03:32,754 And what did you know of Dr. Leir before? 24 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:34,005 Absolutely nothing. 25 00:03:34,088 --> 00:03:36,257 I knew nothing about Dr. Leir until I was introduced. 26 00:03:45,683 --> 00:03:50,438 Would you consider your life to have been completely normal 27 00:03:50,521 --> 00:03:54,651 up until the point where you've engaged these people interested in your story? 28 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:57,362 My life has been normal, 29 00:03:57,612 --> 00:04:01,908 but it did get thrown into a storm once I met these UFO folks. 30 00:04:04,285 --> 00:04:09,916 When Dr. Leir and his associates told me that this could be an implant, 31 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:13,586 now it's all been brought back up to the surface. 32 00:04:13,878 --> 00:04:15,838 Wondering whether I'm seeing shadows 33 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:17,799 or is there missing time? 34 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:20,426 Is this scarier than hell? 35 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:33,940 So you've met Dr. Leir. Do you trust him? 36 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:39,404 I don't trust anybody in today's world. 37 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:45,535 I just want all this to end. I just want it removed. 38 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:48,288 I don't have to worry about a piece of metal floating around in my body. 39 00:05:31,539 --> 00:05:32,832 Good evening, everyone. 40 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:36,085 You're in the right place at the right time. 41 00:05:36,544 --> 00:05:38,296 This is Coast to Coast AM. 42 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,299 We're gonna be joined by Dr. Roger Leir, 43 00:05:41,382 --> 00:05:43,134 one of the most important leaders 44 00:05:43,217 --> 00:05:46,596 in the search for physical evidence in the field of ufology. 45 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:50,475 As listeners of this program know, he's been on the program many times. 46 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,686 He and his surgical team have performed all kinds of surgeries 47 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:55,813 on alleged alien abductees. 48 00:06:41,651 --> 00:06:46,948 This mystery is kind of like a musical composition. 49 00:06:47,281 --> 00:06:49,867 If you're missing a note or two, 50 00:06:50,368 --> 00:06:53,412 you probably wouldn't be able to make sense of it all. 51 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:24,569 I was recently introduced to a surgeon 52 00:07:24,652 --> 00:07:26,904 who claims to remove implants, 53 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:30,867 nanotechnology, microchips, embedded by aliens. 54 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:33,870 Non-humans monitoring our earth. 55 00:07:34,745 --> 00:07:38,332 He talked about abductions, scalar wave transmissions 56 00:07:38,416 --> 00:07:41,794 and a program to study or manipulate the human race. 57 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:46,966 Armed with a patient, a scalpel, black lights, and a stud finder, 58 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:51,679 I was eager to verify the authenticity of this alleged 59 00:07:51,762 --> 00:07:54,265 offworld implant technology. 60 00:07:57,018 --> 00:08:01,397 It's not broadcasting in this electromagnetic spectrum at all, 61 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:04,400 but it's using scalar wave technology... 62 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:08,446 and then when we use our electromagnetic devices, 63 00:08:08,738 --> 00:08:10,448 and pick up a radio wave, 64 00:08:10,781 --> 00:08:13,034 we're actually reading a harmonic. 65 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:15,244 It would be right about here, 66 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:17,497 I feel something vaguely. 67 00:08:18,122 --> 00:08:22,168 Whether that's the foreign material or not, I don't know. 68 00:08:22,251 --> 00:08:24,337 We've got the X-ray with us right here. 69 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:26,005 If we lay it down on his leg, 70 00:08:26,214 --> 00:08:28,549 you see this little spot here that shows through. 71 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:29,550 Yeah. 72 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:31,427 So it would be about here. 73 00:08:32,470 --> 00:08:34,764 So, you know, sometimes you talk yourself into something, 74 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:36,724 you're not sure if you really feel it or no. 75 00:08:36,807 --> 00:08:38,726 But you have to know it when you're gonna do it. 76 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:41,437 It's gotta be right there. 77 00:08:46,734 --> 00:08:49,779 We have optics anyway, right? You have ultrasound optics? 78 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:51,239 Right here. Yeah. 79 00:08:51,322 --> 00:08:52,865 I'll show him while I do the ultrasound. 80 00:08:53,282 --> 00:08:55,743 We're not gonna guess that. We're gonna find out. 81 00:08:55,826 --> 00:08:58,037 This is the ultrasound goo, so, 82 00:08:58,412 --> 00:09:00,206 I'm gonna strip and down this. 83 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:06,879 So, Dr. Leir, what are we experiencing right now? 84 00:09:07,463 --> 00:09:09,257 Well, we're using ultrasound 85 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:12,260 to try and locate the exact position of the object. 86 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:16,973 It's not easy 'cause it's not only superficial, 87 00:09:17,056 --> 00:09:18,891 but it's also close to the bone. 88 00:09:19,475 --> 00:09:23,521 So we're using ultrasound to try and locate it. 89 00:09:28,067 --> 00:09:29,110 That's it, right there. 90 00:09:29,193 --> 00:09:30,152 Yeah. 91 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,406 Are you sure, doctor? 92 00:09:33,739 --> 00:09:35,992 For me, this will still be a fifty if you just cut 'em. 93 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,539 We're going to draw the patient's blood, 94 00:09:41,622 --> 00:09:43,416 and then we'll put it in a centrifuge 95 00:09:43,499 --> 00:09:49,922 and spin it down and separate the cellular portion of the blood from the liquid. 96 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,216 And then, that cellular portion 97 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:57,430 is then mixed with an anticoagulant preservative, 98 00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:00,308 and that's what we actually use to split the object down. 99 00:10:00,808 --> 00:10:04,353 Then when we take out small pieces of the surrounding tissue, 100 00:10:04,937 --> 00:10:07,189 that goes into a pathology lab. 101 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:11,694 The objects, undoubtedly, are some form of metal. 102 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:14,780 So that goes into a metallurgical process 103 00:10:15,197 --> 00:10:16,532 one step at a time, 104 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:19,201 while we're looking at it under an electron microscope, 105 00:10:19,327 --> 00:10:24,040 and some other test that we do to look for isotopes 106 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:27,168 and non-terrestriality. 107 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:29,295 Non-terrestriality. 108 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:32,882 It is alleged that many of these mysterious objects 109 00:10:32,965 --> 00:10:35,551 that Dr. Leir and his team have removed, 110 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:38,137 display bizarre characteristics, 111 00:10:38,387 --> 00:10:40,681 such as having nanotopography, 112 00:10:41,182 --> 00:10:44,518 and metallic composition described by some labs 113 00:10:44,727 --> 00:10:47,313 as "exotic meteorite material," 114 00:10:47,563 --> 00:10:51,275 not having being forged in the furnace of our own sun. 115 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:53,402 I don't think that you've been abducted recently... 116 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,320 No. 117 00:10:54,779 --> 00:10:56,072 As a surgeon, 118 00:10:56,155 --> 00:11:00,368 I know it's not your position to speculate on the origin of this object, 119 00:11:00,451 --> 00:11:02,870 but obviously, you know the story going around that 120 00:11:02,953 --> 00:11:06,374 maybe there is a correlation between the abduction phenomena 121 00:11:06,457 --> 00:11:08,042 and these types of objects. 122 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:09,585 Well, it's interesting... 123 00:11:10,544 --> 00:11:12,838 I mean, I don't know if you wanna quote me on this, but... 124 00:11:14,548 --> 00:11:16,258 I just don't believe it's alien. 125 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:20,888 I believe it's some earthly particle that's from some carpentry thing. 126 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:23,474 They whacked something, a little piece of metal flew off and stuck in them. 127 00:11:23,557 --> 00:11:25,559 They don't remember it 'cause it was so tiny. 128 00:11:25,684 --> 00:11:27,645 And then those people... Enough people have 'em. 129 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:31,440 People with abducted experiences also may have the metal. 130 00:11:31,565 --> 00:11:32,483 So I don't know. 131 00:11:32,566 --> 00:11:35,861 He's doing the analysis on the metal, so... I'm not. 132 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:38,864 And that's where the things come in. 133 00:11:38,948 --> 00:11:42,451 I would reanalyze the metal, have another group of analyzers to look at it, 134 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:43,786 if it was me doing it. 135 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,833 A foreign object was about to be removed 136 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:51,919 from a man carrying this burden for over a decade. 137 00:11:52,628 --> 00:11:56,549 Nefarious implant by an extraterrestrial big brother 138 00:11:56,632 --> 00:11:58,843 or a piece of childhood shrapnel? 139 00:11:59,135 --> 00:12:03,556 I personally wanted to see what this foreign object was made of. 140 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:08,310 This piece of metal is in my leg... or whatever it is... 141 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,312 it's been there for God knows how long. 142 00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:13,399 So, it'd be nice to yank it out, do the experiments on it, 143 00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:15,776 and see what it is. 144 00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:18,696 I have some people in my life that just shake their heads 145 00:12:18,779 --> 00:12:20,489 my girlfriend, my mom, and a few other people, 146 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:22,158 are just saying, "Don't let him do it." 147 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:25,870 It's a small incision. It's not like they're going into my lung. 148 00:12:26,245 --> 00:12:30,082 A few stitches, and it's a pretty simple procedure. 149 00:12:30,666 --> 00:12:32,835 Small incision, big mystery. 150 00:12:32,918 --> 00:12:33,836 Yes. 151 00:12:34,211 --> 00:12:38,924 Were you surprised when they used the device for frequency? 152 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:41,677 That what was in your leg seemed to be emitting a frequency? 153 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,887 That's pretty amazing. 154 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:47,475 If that test is accurate, well, this is really an implant. 155 00:12:47,808 --> 00:12:49,143 Just by fluke we found it. 156 00:12:49,727 --> 00:12:51,812 One thing led to another and here we are today. 157 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:54,982 It sounds like you've had some powerful experiences. 158 00:12:55,065 --> 00:12:59,028 It at least led you to entertaining the idea 159 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:02,406 that they are non-humans, they are visiting the planet, 160 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:04,825 and that they are engaging humanity. 161 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:06,952 The memories were as a child. 162 00:13:08,204 --> 00:13:10,122 I thought I had a couple of abductions. 163 00:13:10,247 --> 00:13:11,999 My parents put locks 164 00:13:12,082 --> 00:13:14,335 high on the door when I was a young guy 165 00:13:14,752 --> 00:13:16,170 so I wouldn't drown in the pool. 166 00:13:17,087 --> 00:13:20,174 And they'd find me outside and the locks were still on. 167 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:22,551 I remember waking up 168 00:13:23,135 --> 00:13:25,596 and being elevated on my back, straight up, 169 00:13:25,763 --> 00:13:29,016 and feeling my nightgown being pulled back, and my thoughts were... 170 00:13:29,141 --> 00:13:30,351 I'm really going up quick. 171 00:13:30,434 --> 00:13:33,354 You can feel the clothes on your body being pulled back. 172 00:13:34,271 --> 00:13:35,648 So that was like the last time. 173 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:38,526 This felt like they were up to no good. 174 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:40,319 Have you ever seen a UFO? 175 00:13:40,611 --> 00:13:41,487 No. 176 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:42,530 Never have? 177 00:13:42,613 --> 00:13:43,948 Not that I remember. 178 00:13:45,699 --> 00:13:48,118 There's no insanity in my family and we're healthy as larks. 179 00:13:48,202 --> 00:13:51,038 I mean, this has... somehow happened. 180 00:13:54,583 --> 00:13:56,085 That's my little incision. 181 00:13:56,835 --> 00:13:57,962 We spread it a little bit. 182 00:13:58,087 --> 00:14:02,591 Now the question is, is it next to the skin or is it next to the fascia? 183 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:04,510 I think it's close to both. 184 00:14:04,843 --> 00:14:05,886 Probably. 185 00:14:07,054 --> 00:14:09,932 Probably. I think it's subcutaneous. So... 186 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:14,270 It's probably between the skin and the fascia. 187 00:14:14,895 --> 00:14:15,896 Look at it. 188 00:14:16,146 --> 00:14:17,940 It's a little metal, that thing. 189 00:14:18,023 --> 00:14:19,316 Let's see if I can feel a click. 190 00:14:20,609 --> 00:14:21,527 No. 191 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,948 Sometimes you can find it just by a little click. 192 00:14:26,907 --> 00:14:27,783 No. 193 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:32,329 Usually... what was that? 194 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,332 As I watched hopeful believers 195 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:38,794 slice an opening into the flesh-suit of a living man, 196 00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:42,798 I began to reflect on exactly what was going on. 197 00:14:43,674 --> 00:14:47,344 An alleged abductee, patient Number Seventeen, 198 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:50,931 standing at over six foot nine inches tall, 199 00:14:51,015 --> 00:14:54,518 was a human monolith, a force of nature. 200 00:14:54,602 --> 00:14:57,229 And like the old cowboys of past, 201 00:14:57,605 --> 00:14:59,481 an absolutely honest man. 202 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:03,819 One of those people, soft-spoken, stoic, 203 00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,739 who was genuinely looking for answers 204 00:15:06,822 --> 00:15:09,909 to questions that have plagued him since childhood. 205 00:15:10,993 --> 00:15:12,912 And all I could think was... 206 00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:17,416 "What the fuck is about to be pulled out of this man's leg?" 207 00:15:19,084 --> 00:15:20,628 Can you see it? Little spot there? 208 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:21,962 -Oh, yeah, there it is. -The black spot. 209 00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:23,255 -Yeah, right there. -That is it. 210 00:15:25,507 --> 00:15:27,217 It looks a little bigger now. See. 211 00:15:28,969 --> 00:15:31,555 So we'll get rid of some of the surrounding tissue around it. 212 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,183 No wonder it was so invisible in ultrasound. 213 00:15:34,558 --> 00:15:35,726 It wasn't very big. 214 00:15:35,809 --> 00:15:36,769 Wow. 215 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:39,563 So that is the entire thing right there. I'll put it right here. 216 00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:41,857 Right there, with a shot of white around. Little better. 217 00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:46,779 Here. I'll show it to you. 218 00:15:48,864 --> 00:15:49,949 That's the whole thing. 219 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:52,534 I'll seal it around with a sponge. 220 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:55,371 We'll put the soft tissue around that, 221 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:57,331 and then that should go on the serum. 222 00:15:58,457 --> 00:16:00,459 So do you wanna get a close-up of this? 223 00:16:03,504 --> 00:16:05,839 Don't put it in anything 224 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:07,341 till I dissect all the tissue. 225 00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:14,640 I'll leave a little piece of soft tissue on there, 226 00:16:14,723 --> 00:16:18,811 so that when we use things like electron microscope, 227 00:16:18,936 --> 00:16:20,562 which we'll do at Seal Labs, 228 00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:24,358 that soft tissue will show up under the electron microscope. 229 00:16:25,734 --> 00:16:27,319 So, Roger, it was a success today? 230 00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:32,324 Oh, yeah. I'm very happy with the results that we got today, you know. 231 00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:35,202 The object as it appeared... 232 00:16:35,285 --> 00:16:38,372 went through all the testing, we got it out, 233 00:16:38,455 --> 00:16:40,541 and now we're gonna look at it 234 00:16:40,624 --> 00:16:44,628 and see what, both, the biological and the metallurgical 235 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:47,381 components are... that it's made. 236 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,299 And that will determine 237 00:16:50,050 --> 00:16:52,886 whether we have something that's out of the rose garden 238 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:56,557 or something that's non-terrestrial. 239 00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:59,810 Do not underestimate the cosmo-politics 240 00:16:59,893 --> 00:17:02,938 of an alleged alien implant removal surgery. 241 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:07,234 Word had spread and many faithful arrived with camcorders, 242 00:17:07,317 --> 00:17:10,195 and flooded the waiting room with anticipation. 243 00:17:10,779 --> 00:17:14,867 Patient Number Seventeen quietly made his exit through the back door, 244 00:17:15,284 --> 00:17:16,827 avoiding the crowd 245 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:21,457 that had formed to glimpse that which is yet to be explained. 246 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:28,922 Just as I'm learning more about music and harmonics, 247 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:31,925 I'm also learning more 248 00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:35,679 about the nature of the cosmos and reality. 249 00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:41,185 When traversing uncharted territories 250 00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:45,314 and exploring alleged and advanced nano-cybernetic transmitters, 251 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:48,525 believed to have been embedded into a human host 252 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:51,945 to monitor unknown rhythms, fields, and energies 253 00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:56,992 to transmit scalar wave frequencies to beings with hidden intentions, 254 00:17:57,493 --> 00:17:59,453 who either traverse space-time... 255 00:17:59,703 --> 00:18:02,039 or dimensionally shift into a reality. 256 00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:05,584 There are key moments in your investigation 257 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:09,046 that require a monumental leap of faith. 258 00:18:11,131 --> 00:18:13,509 Or, of course, you can just go to your local 259 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:15,302 scanning electron microscopy 260 00:18:15,385 --> 00:18:18,639 lab to actually see what it is that you have. 261 00:18:19,473 --> 00:18:22,476 My name is Steve Colbern. I'm a material scientist. 262 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,270 I work on carbon nanotubes. That's my primary job. 263 00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:27,731 And I'm Roger's head scientist 264 00:18:27,815 --> 00:18:30,109 in the A&S Research organization that he founded. 265 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:32,277 Must be stuck someplace. 266 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:33,946 There it is. 267 00:18:38,909 --> 00:18:40,994 This is the official testing 268 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:43,372 of the foreign body that was removed from you. 269 00:18:43,747 --> 00:18:45,124 Are you curious about it? 270 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:46,208 Absolutely. 271 00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:47,376 -What do you-- -A mystery. 272 00:18:47,709 --> 00:18:49,711 It is a mystery. Do you think we'll solve it today? 273 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,963 Yes, we will. 274 00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:55,384 Is it shining on the inside, Steve? 275 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:56,426 Yeah, we see metal. 276 00:18:57,845 --> 00:18:59,221 -Cool. -We got metal. 277 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:04,226 All right. 278 00:19:04,768 --> 00:19:06,228 Let's put it back up. 279 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:10,107 Do you wanna remount it so that we got it sitting up on end? 280 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:11,525 Test it with a Gauss Meter? 281 00:19:11,608 --> 00:19:13,318 That would be a good idea. 282 00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:15,612 Hold on, Steve. Gauss Meter test. 283 00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:18,574 Bring it up. Just hold it straight up. 284 00:19:21,451 --> 00:19:22,578 Okay. 285 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,831 -We're getting a little bit. -A little bit. 286 00:19:26,623 --> 00:19:27,541 Not much. 287 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:06,205 With the power to look at the object at almost the atomic level, 288 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,749 an alien landscape emerged, 289 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:11,501 similar to topographical surveys 290 00:20:11,585 --> 00:20:13,795 of our star celestial satellites 291 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:16,006 orbiting our solar center. 292 00:20:16,632 --> 00:20:20,260 Structures and shapes began to take form within my mind. 293 00:20:21,261 --> 00:20:25,015 Spectral analysis, seeking explanation of composition, 294 00:20:25,307 --> 00:20:29,061 measurements of features which looked like mountains and valleys 295 00:20:29,144 --> 00:20:31,146 were taken with great precision. 296 00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:36,026 I was hopeful that today, 297 00:20:36,109 --> 00:20:39,905 patient Number Seventeen would be given some answers. 298 00:20:49,539 --> 00:20:51,166 So, Roger, is there anything 299 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:54,002 that surprised you so far from today's analysis? 300 00:20:54,419 --> 00:20:55,254 Yes. 301 00:20:56,546 --> 00:21:02,052 That the visualization of something that may be a carbon nanotube, 302 00:21:02,135 --> 00:21:04,763 at a low magnification, it's kind of... 303 00:21:04,888 --> 00:21:08,308 And what would prove that it's a carbon nanotube? 304 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:15,440 Well, when we look at the chemical components, 305 00:21:15,565 --> 00:21:17,567 which is the peaks on the screen, 306 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:21,405 we can see that on that particular one, it's all carbon. 307 00:21:23,031 --> 00:21:26,201 Then we'll have to go on with other testing. 308 00:21:26,368 --> 00:21:29,329 It's called Raman spectroscopy, 309 00:21:29,413 --> 00:21:31,790 and a couple of other tests 310 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,544 will determine actually if it is a carbon nanotube. 311 00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:38,130 Will you be able to do that today? 312 00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:39,298 No. 313 00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:44,219 Your first look at what, you know, they pulled out of you. 314 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,721 What are your thoughts? 315 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:49,516 This is interesting. I say it still could be just a rock from childhood 316 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,562 or it could be a meteorite piece from space. 317 00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:55,647 You'll just never know until a breakdown. 318 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:59,067 What you're saying is, "I'm just trying to figure out what this is." 319 00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:01,903 The mechanics of this... 320 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:03,864 I consider myself a Christian, 321 00:22:03,947 --> 00:22:06,700 and if this thing's some space alien deal, 322 00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:11,663 it kind of blows everything I believed in for the last 50 years out of the water. 323 00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:12,831 I mean... 324 00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:15,334 Technically, I mean, 325 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,712 God doesn't go around implanting people. 326 00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:20,547 And earth... 327 00:22:20,964 --> 00:22:22,424 Well, I mean, this just... 328 00:22:22,966 --> 00:22:26,720 kinda puts Christianity under question of, is it true or not? 329 00:22:26,803 --> 00:22:30,682 In a way, I hope this is just a rock or something from the past, 330 00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:34,519 for my beliefs. But if it is, I'll kinda start rethinking... 331 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:37,481 Would it shake the foundations of your faith 332 00:22:37,564 --> 00:22:41,526 if this was something from another intelligent species? 333 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:43,945 It could. 334 00:22:44,404 --> 00:22:45,447 Definitely. 335 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,202 Did you feel that we saw something anomalous today? 336 00:22:50,285 --> 00:22:51,661 Yeah, it was definitely anomalous 337 00:22:51,745 --> 00:22:55,123 and it was very similar to several other objects that we've seen 338 00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:57,542 that were earlier from rock observations. 339 00:22:58,376 --> 00:23:00,629 The nerve cells grow into the membrane. 340 00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:04,091 This membrane forms the interface between the neurosystem 341 00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:05,967 and the electronics of the device. 342 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,221 What can you say implicitly from today? 343 00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:14,351 That it's probably a sophisticated nanotechnogical device, 344 00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,562 rather than just a fragment of something. 345 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,900 These devices seem to be deliberately inserted into people, 346 00:23:21,983 --> 00:23:23,318 a portal of entry, 347 00:23:23,401 --> 00:23:26,446 and there is never an inflammatory response to the objects, 348 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,949 which is highly unusual and unheard of. 349 00:23:29,032 --> 00:23:31,451 So, when we get the path report back, 350 00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,620 that will tell a tale as well 351 00:23:34,037 --> 00:23:37,958 as to whether it's one of these anomalous objects we've seen before. 352 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,753 My working hypotheses with these are 353 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:44,798 nanotechnological devices from off-planet 354 00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:47,425 that have been perfected by some society 355 00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:50,804 that has had this technology for a very long time. 356 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:54,599 We sent half the object in for ICP-MS analysis, 357 00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:57,644 and that will give us some isotopic ratios 358 00:23:57,727 --> 00:23:59,980 and tell us whether the material is from off-planet. 359 00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:08,113 I mean, everybody wants 360 00:24:08,196 --> 00:24:10,365 to squeeze every last bit of information 361 00:24:10,448 --> 00:24:13,702 of every piece of evidence they can possibly get 362 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:16,705 to try to solve the puzzle of what's going on. 363 00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,423 While the scientific team 364 00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:29,384 was busy analyzing the composition, structures, 365 00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:33,889 and isotopic ratios of the surgically-removed mystery object, 366 00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:37,100 I decided to meet up with patient Number Seventeen, 367 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,562 and find out more about his abductive experiences 368 00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,940 and his post-operation state of mind. 369 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,151 Do you think that this is sinister? 370 00:24:46,234 --> 00:24:50,322 Like when you saw the eyes of those three oval-headed alien dudes, 371 00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,491 that you tried to tackle, in Las Vegas. 372 00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,077 You said that you could tell it was sinister, 373 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:57,287 you could tell it was-- 374 00:24:57,412 --> 00:24:59,956 They're not there to take you out for pizza, that's for sure. 375 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,418 I mean, they are there to manipulate you somehow. 376 00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:07,088 Not to save you or give the cure for cancer. 377 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:09,090 They have their own agendas. 378 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:13,136 And if they didn't, it would be disclosed already. 379 00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:16,348 I mean, there has to be something behind this to keep it this quiet. 380 00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,600 Where did you come to that understanding? 381 00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:21,853 Of course, their appearances are disturbing, 382 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,398 but the sense... like when you meet somebody that's nice and friendly, 383 00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:26,900 you know, hey, it's a nice person. 384 00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:31,488 These three people... things, in my room, you just knew. 385 00:25:31,571 --> 00:25:33,698 Well, they're in your house without your permission, 386 00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:36,660 you know they're about to, maybe, take you somewhere 387 00:25:36,743 --> 00:25:38,036 and do whatever they want with you, 388 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,788 I mean, how can that be a good thing? 389 00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:41,831 There is no way they rang the doorbell, 390 00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:44,417 and said, "Hey, we're from outer space. Wanna have a beer?" 391 00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:45,961 I mean, they're... 392 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,172 They're gangsters, you know. 393 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,508 Alien gangsters are doing what they want. 394 00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:57,639 God knows what they're doing to people. At least I was caught and released. 395 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,141 What would you say to an alien 396 00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:02,102 that was trying to abduct you, if you could? 397 00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:05,063 I don't know if I'd say anything 398 00:26:05,146 --> 00:26:07,399 rather than just treat him like any burglar 399 00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:10,151 that was trying to break into my house and mess with my family. 400 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:12,988 I'll shoot him dead and I'll take him down. 401 00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:14,823 I mean, I think... 402 00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:16,616 they're criminals, 403 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,326 they're doing what they want, 404 00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:21,579 and a lot of cruel things to people, 405 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:26,751 and it'd be nice for... a little payback. 406 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,795 'Cause this is unreasonable. 407 00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:30,922 How many abductees do you really need? 408 00:26:31,047 --> 00:26:33,466 How many people's lives do you have to ruin? 409 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:35,468 I mean, man up. 410 00:26:35,593 --> 00:26:37,679 Show your face or take off. 411 00:26:38,346 --> 00:26:40,098 And for them to, you know, 412 00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:43,351 always take you on a deserted road, or late at night, 413 00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:45,520 they are obviously cowards on top of it. 414 00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:47,981 So they're criminals, they're cowards. 415 00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:54,863 If they're that advanced, they should just talk to us and explain things out, 416 00:26:54,946 --> 00:26:58,366 and comfort us, rather than... 417 00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:02,037 Like mean little kids with a magnifying glass 418 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,747 frying ants on a sunny day. 419 00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:05,749 I mean, cowards. 420 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:07,834 So, "Leave me alone." 421 00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:11,379 And, "I hope I can take one of you out when it's possible." 422 00:27:11,671 --> 00:27:14,424 You fought back against these alien gangsters. 423 00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:15,717 I mean, you did, that day. 424 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,843 Yep. 425 00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:19,596 I was ready to duke it out with them. 426 00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:22,599 For some reason they just didn't wanna deal with it, 427 00:27:22,724 --> 00:27:26,811 but I was able to break that trance. 428 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,314 It's really a weird feeling. You can't move. 429 00:27:29,397 --> 00:27:32,150 I was like, there's no way this is happening to me tonight. 430 00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:36,488 And I was able to get up and go for it. Yeah. 431 00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:38,448 That was pretty amazing, to tell you the truth. 432 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,033 'Cause most people can't. 433 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:41,493 So I was able to break through. 434 00:27:41,576 --> 00:27:47,499 So they have weaknesses that you can break through, apparently. 435 00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:50,251 Are you saying to me that 436 00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,963 you feel strongly that the experiences you had were real? 437 00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:57,592 The experiences in childhood are real memories. 438 00:27:58,426 --> 00:28:00,678 And what happened in Vegas 439 00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:03,640 with the two abductions were real. 440 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,768 But the fine details aren't there. 441 00:28:06,851 --> 00:28:09,354 Like I said in earlier conversations. 442 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,940 I mean, they are doing mental blocks on people 443 00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:15,193 'cause they know how frightening it is for the human race to deal with all this, 444 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,779 but they still feel like we do with test animals, 445 00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:19,447 they can do what they want with us. 446 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,950 Do you feel that you were given a mental block 447 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,077 from the experiences that you had? 448 00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:25,036 Absolutely. 449 00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:28,289 There's no other way they could have made me forget about it. 450 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:31,584 So however that's done, I'm glad that's possible, 451 00:28:32,001 --> 00:28:34,838 'cause just knowing they were there in my room, 452 00:28:34,921 --> 00:28:36,965 from childhood, sometimes as a young adult, 453 00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:39,509 and with this possible implant, 454 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,720 you kind of feel violated. 455 00:28:41,845 --> 00:28:43,680 I mean, these people are, like, kidnapping you. 456 00:28:44,347 --> 00:28:46,433 You can believe what you want... 457 00:28:48,643 --> 00:28:50,645 but unless you get other people to believe, too, 458 00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,230 it just seems like a fairy tale. 459 00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:57,652 It means nothing. You know... but if you tell people the story, 460 00:28:57,777 --> 00:29:01,406 they look at you like you're crazy or you're a fool, 461 00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:05,076 or your religious friends think you're going to the dark side 462 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,620 'cause if there's aliens, there's no God, 463 00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:10,206 which means you're an atheist or something, so... 464 00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,419 Everybody has their opinion on this. 465 00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:16,296 You know, with all this going on, 466 00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:17,589 I'm just like a normal guy 467 00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:20,884 with extraordinary experiences 468 00:29:20,967 --> 00:29:23,011 that can't really be explained. 469 00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:24,763 You know you've gone through them, but... 470 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,851 unless you meet other abductees, or somebody in the line of work, 471 00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:31,227 nobody believes you. 472 00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:33,396 Nobody really cares. 473 00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:36,816 And they really just wanna put their fingers in their ears 474 00:29:37,525 --> 00:29:38,735 and walk away. 475 00:29:38,818 --> 00:29:40,487 They're just afraid of the truth, maybe. 476 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,113 And then, when it happens to them, 477 00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:45,658 or they know somebody personally that this stuff happens to, 478 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,327 then they open their eyes. 479 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,748 Everybody thought that the world was flat at one time. 480 00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:54,209 Those folks don't want it to be true, 481 00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:55,960 or they're afraid of the truth. 482 00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:59,631 They just weren't nightmares. They were real. 483 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:04,636 I joined patient Number Seventeen 484 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,222 for his post-operative evaluation. 485 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,474 We were to confirm with X-ray 486 00:30:09,557 --> 00:30:12,977 that the entire foreign object was successfully removed 487 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,313 and that the patient was healing properly. 488 00:30:15,563 --> 00:30:19,108 As Dr. Leir explained that this surgery was a success, 489 00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,860 I started to get the sense 490 00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:24,572 that patient Number Seventeen was slightly agitated. 491 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:27,450 I guess you guys haven't analyzed the material yet. 492 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,662 Well, not any more than we did at Seal Labs. 493 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:33,623 Not every lab does every test. 494 00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:35,458 But when I was talking to Richard, 495 00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:37,502 he was saying it's just a sliver of steel 496 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:40,964 with cotton bits on it from the band-aid when they pulled it out. 497 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:42,715 No. 498 00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:47,846 We can see you're completely devoid of metal. 499 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,265 Post-operatively... 500 00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:53,560 I would say, about two weeks. 501 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,940 And evidently, we have 502 00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:03,862 definitively removed the object that was there before. 503 00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:06,948 There's no pieces left of the object. 504 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,785 So it was removed, what we call, in total, 505 00:31:11,077 --> 00:31:13,705 which means the whole thing was excised. 506 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:18,960 Ever had a case where you've had multiple objects in a person? 507 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:21,546 We did two surgeries on the same day. 508 00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:26,593 And that gentleman had one in the back of his hand 509 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:30,013 that was also a little rod, 510 00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,931 kind of a little C-shaped object. 511 00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:34,309 And then we had a whole string of them 512 00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:36,728 that were about the same that looked like yours. 513 00:31:38,104 --> 00:31:40,231 So I can still be tagged somewhere else. 514 00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:41,190 Yeah. 515 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,444 There are these memories I have already, as a child, 516 00:31:44,527 --> 00:31:47,405 and then, in Las Vegas, a couple of visits was enough for me. 517 00:31:47,488 --> 00:31:50,283 It was just frightening to see 518 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:53,077 these images... I mean, you just... 519 00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:54,913 I mean... 520 00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:56,581 it's just frightening. 521 00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,499 I mean, you just know it's out of this world. 522 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,003 Most people want to remember. 523 00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,010 You're kind of over it, it sounds like. 524 00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:11,012 I just wanna get back to my life 525 00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:14,766 of joining my family and riding my dirt bikes, 526 00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:15,892 and move on. 527 00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:18,186 We'll get the data here shortly, 528 00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:20,146 and see what it's made out of, 529 00:32:20,229 --> 00:32:22,065 and should be game over. 530 00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:24,776 We'll know, one way or another, what the deal was with my leg. 531 00:32:46,214 --> 00:32:49,133 Good evening, everyone. This is Coast to Coast AM. 532 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:52,679 We have sad news to report tonight. 533 00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:56,391 Prominent UFO researcher, Dr. Roger Leir has passed away 534 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,642 due to a heart attack. 535 00:32:58,518 --> 00:33:01,980 Dr. Leir was a pioneer in the investigation for physical evidence 536 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:03,982 of extraterrestrial contact. 537 00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:06,234 Roger will be missed. 538 00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:26,796 The isotopic ratios of most of these samples 539 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:30,258 have been highly different from the isotopic ratios of earthly elements. 540 00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:34,637 The materials come from not only a different place in the Solar System 541 00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:36,681 but a different part of our galaxy entirely. 542 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,519 This is a juvenile of that big one right there. 543 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:43,813 They probably turn dark when they get larger. 544 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:52,280 And this is cryptocoryne plant from the Amazon, 545 00:33:52,488 --> 00:33:54,449 and Amazon sword plant. 546 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,285 These three, and... 547 00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,620 These fish are very aggressive. 548 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,581 They'll eat each other given half the chance. 549 00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:05,126 So it's good to provide them places to hide from each other. 550 00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,386 After we went to Seal Labs, 551 00:34:15,678 --> 00:34:17,972 Dr. Leir was in pretty good health at that point. 552 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:21,976 And he had an apparent heart attack 553 00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:24,270 and they found him near death, 554 00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:27,273 and he died soon after. 555 00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:29,734 That was about six weeks ago now. 556 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,905 It's a great loss to the UFO community. 557 00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:36,199 And he was a good friend... 558 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:44,791 He was a good friend and a great research associate. 559 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,357 Sorry. 560 00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:32,088 Well, Dr. Leir worked hard in pursuit of the truth, and he... 561 00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:37,969 He was striving to bring science to the UFO community 562 00:35:38,052 --> 00:35:43,933 and bring the scientific method to investigate UFO sightings. 563 00:35:44,016 --> 00:35:46,018 And he was particularly interested in hard evidence 564 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:48,771 of UFO sightings and abductions. 565 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:51,482 And that's why he got into the implant field 566 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,861 'cause that's one of the only ways we can get hard evidence 567 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:57,113 that people have been visited by aliens, 568 00:35:57,196 --> 00:35:59,615 by these devices left behind in their bodies. 569 00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:03,619 Do you still have patient Number Seventeen's sample? 570 00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:04,871 Yes. 571 00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:13,254 I think most people are like the fish. 572 00:36:13,337 --> 00:36:15,715 Most of the masses of humanity are like the fish. 573 00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:18,009 They don't really know or care 574 00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:21,304 what's outside of their immediate sphere of influence. 575 00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:27,018 And we need to be better than that as a race. 576 00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:34,275 What are we looking to learn about patient Number Seventeen? 577 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,818 The isotopic analysis 578 00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:38,821 will tell us if the material's from our planet, so that's very important. 579 00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,617 What if this thing is emitting frequency? 580 00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,870 There's got to be a way to capture that data somehow. 581 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,331 The ultimate goal is to hack the Alien Internet. 582 00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:51,042 We have reason to believe there's a complex web of communication 583 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:54,587 between aliens and some supercomputer some place. 584 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:57,131 And abductees are also plugged into this system. 585 00:36:57,798 --> 00:37:00,426 So it's the biggest story of the 20th and 21st century. 586 00:37:00,509 --> 00:37:02,762 It's the biggest story never told. 587 00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,789 It's the waiting that will grind you down. 588 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:15,751 It's the slow wear and tear of the mental highway. 589 00:38:17,586 --> 00:38:19,672 If it's not true, you're crazy. 590 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,882 If it is true, 591 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,302 the implications are even worse. 592 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:28,514 How do we navigate an experience that is real to us, 593 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,558 but will never be real to others? 594 00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:34,061 Do we push it so far down 595 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,939 that we can discount our own perception? 596 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:55,666 It's one thing to ask a question, 597 00:38:56,542 --> 00:38:58,586 it's another to receive the answer. 598 00:39:05,968 --> 00:39:07,386 Is knowledge power? 599 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,681 Or can knowledge be fundamentally destructive? 600 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:14,643 We've been waiting a long time to find the broad spectrum elemental analysis 601 00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:17,605 and isotopic analysis that you're gonna be able to read for us 602 00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:20,983 'cause we wanna know as Patient Seventeen who often says, 603 00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:23,736 "Is this a piece of Tonka truck or just a rock from the ground?" 604 00:39:24,445 --> 00:39:26,155 What was it that was taken out of his leg? 605 00:39:26,238 --> 00:39:30,284 And this should be definitive in some way of what it was that was taken out, 606 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,203 if it's anomalous or not. 607 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:42,755 We got quite a few elements here. 608 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,800 I see we have boron, sodium, magnesium, 609 00:39:46,342 --> 00:39:48,386 aluminum, silicon, phosphorus, 610 00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:50,679 potassium, calcium, 611 00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:52,932 titanium, 612 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,226 chromium, manganese, iron. 613 00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:56,769 Iron's the major component. 614 00:39:57,686 --> 00:39:59,563 Cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, 615 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:01,315 gallium, germanium... 616 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:05,277 Gallium and germanium are indicative of the presence of meteoric iron. 617 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:07,530 Got arsenic, strontium, 618 00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:09,782 yttrium, it's a rare earth element, 619 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,784 zirconium, niobium, 620 00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:13,619 molybdenum... 621 00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:15,621 Molybdenum's kind of high. 622 00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:18,999 That's the highest I've seen in one of these objects actually. 623 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,376 405 ppm. 624 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:26,549 And we have some palladium, 625 00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:28,926 which is also indicative of meteoric iron. 626 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:33,013 There's quite a few precious metals like palladium, platinum, 627 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,725 rhodium, and meteoric iron. 628 00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:39,270 Lanthanum is also a rare-earth element, 629 00:40:39,353 --> 00:40:40,396 barium, 630 00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,900 hafnium, tantalum, tungsten, rhenium, 631 00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:49,613 thallium, lead... 632 00:40:50,322 --> 00:40:51,866 If you look at this, Steve, 633 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:54,243 does it look like it's a cake-mix of... 634 00:40:54,326 --> 00:40:57,496 They could have used this chemistry to build something here on the planet. 635 00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:03,294 I mean, could that be a piece of steel fragment from something from my past or-- 636 00:41:03,377 --> 00:41:05,296 Yeah, it looks like it'd be very strong 637 00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:07,882 with iron mixed with all these different elements. 638 00:41:08,674 --> 00:41:10,468 One, two, three... 639 00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:13,929 We have 53 elements in object number 15, so. 640 00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:18,601 Seems kinda complex just to be a man-made thing. 641 00:41:18,684 --> 00:41:22,313 Do chemists actually put this stuff together to make steel objects here? 642 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:27,943 Yeah, this is a lot of elements... 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17... 643 00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:33,949 So we have a total of 36 elements here, so that is quite complex. 644 00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:39,622 Most industrial alloys don't have nearly that many elements in them. 645 00:41:42,374 --> 00:41:43,584 And... 646 00:41:44,585 --> 00:41:47,713 so I'd say this was... 647 00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:53,552 an iron alloy with a significant amount of meteoric iron in it. 648 00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,434 Based on this, perhaps 25% meteoric iron. 649 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:05,147 And then with that, some biological HERV-prototype coating on the outside. 650 00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:07,399 When you say "meteorite," is it like, 651 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:11,070 carbon, like our whole universe is created with, 652 00:42:11,237 --> 00:42:14,490 or is that a common element? Meteorite-- 653 00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:15,991 Meteoric iron. 654 00:42:16,825 --> 00:42:19,245 They're the cores of planets that exploded. 655 00:42:21,914 --> 00:42:24,083 I'm still trying to figure out-- You're the scientist, 656 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:27,711 but what made that up 657 00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:30,589 that could've been in my everyday life instead of the implant. 658 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:33,717 I mean, it could have been a piece of a nail, 659 00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:38,055 or just an ordinary rock embedded in my shin in the past. 660 00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:40,599 One thing that would be good to do 661 00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:43,852 when we get more funding, is to... 662 00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,356 just take a regular nail and analyze it at the same lab 663 00:42:47,481 --> 00:42:48,524 and see what comes up, 664 00:42:48,607 --> 00:42:52,570 but I can almost guarantee there'll only be about four or five elements in it. 665 00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:56,865 And not of a complex structure like this, so. 666 00:42:57,116 --> 00:42:59,743 I don't know if there's any way you could have gotten that from... 667 00:43:00,035 --> 00:43:01,745 An accident from childhood. 668 00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,455 No. Very unlikely. 669 00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:05,708 Well, there was never an entry wound. 670 00:43:06,959 --> 00:43:09,378 No recollection of an injury in that area. 671 00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,630 So you have no idea how long that object had been there? 672 00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:12,923 Could have been from childhood, 673 00:43:13,549 --> 00:43:15,968 but it started giving problems in 2005. 674 00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,887 Now you mention it, I'm trying to remember what the pain was 675 00:43:18,971 --> 00:43:21,724 'cause it felt like a railroad spike being driven through my leg. 676 00:43:22,474 --> 00:43:24,435 But I'm trying to remember the point of entry. 677 00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:27,021 It could have been in line of the pain. 678 00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:29,523 I'd be riding my motorcycle on some mountain road, 679 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,400 and it would start kicking in, the pain. 680 00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:33,569 And it took all my strength 681 00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:37,072 to stop the motorcycle and lay on the ground without crashing. 682 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,534 So... then it just stopped. 683 00:43:40,784 --> 00:43:43,829 Do you think the pain was to punish you somehow 684 00:43:43,912 --> 00:43:45,122 or to control you or anything? 685 00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:47,458 Well, y'all know I've been a bad boy, 686 00:43:47,541 --> 00:43:50,252 but I have no explanation. 687 00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:52,463 The electron micrographs of the object 688 00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:56,967 look very similar to the corresponding pictures of object number 15, 689 00:43:57,051 --> 00:44:00,304 that turned out to be a sophisticated nanotechnological device. 690 00:44:00,429 --> 00:44:04,933 You're saying, Steve, that this is a highly complex alloy? 691 00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:09,021 Thirty six different elements, some of which are rare-earth elements. 692 00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:13,359 Yeah, it's got 410 ppm of yttrium. 693 00:44:13,484 --> 00:44:17,946 And I know for a fact that no nail on the market's gonna have that. 694 00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:22,534 There's all these different metals in it, they're highly complex, 695 00:44:22,701 --> 00:44:24,870 they were fabricated, they were put together. 696 00:44:24,953 --> 00:44:27,539 It would be highly expensive, and probably difficult, 697 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:29,833 to make a single object out of all these elements. 698 00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:31,752 - Yeah. - Some of which are very rare. 699 00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:34,129 Some of which are even toxic in small amounts. 700 00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:37,424 I mean, this is a very strange object 701 00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:40,052 in Patient Seventeen's leg, that was taken out. 702 00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:41,345 Yeah, no doubt, man. 703 00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,266 You've talked to us about the elemental analysis. 704 00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:49,937 But we also specifically got isotopic analysis. 705 00:44:51,063 --> 00:44:54,024 Every element on our earth, or most elements on earth 706 00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:56,985 have more than one isotope. Isotopes being... 707 00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:02,157 forms of the element with different atomic weights 708 00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:05,244 and having different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus. 709 00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,247 The number of protons in the nucleus defines what the element is, 710 00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:12,418 and the number of neutrons in the nucleus defines its exact atomic weight. 711 00:45:14,002 --> 00:45:17,506 So, in elements with more than one of these isotopes, 712 00:45:18,215 --> 00:45:23,011 there's a certain pattern, certain ratio of the isotopes, one to another, 713 00:45:23,095 --> 00:45:25,806 and that ratio is characteristic 714 00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:29,017 for elements that originate on earth. 715 00:45:29,351 --> 00:45:30,519 And... 716 00:45:30,602 --> 00:45:32,312 What do you see in the isotopes? 717 00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,398 Are they from here or are they not? 718 00:45:35,732 --> 00:45:38,735 They were similar to earthly isotopic ratios, 719 00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:41,196 but off by enough, 720 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,032 or I would tend to conclude that it was from off-planet. 721 00:45:46,201 --> 00:45:47,453 So, you're saying that 722 00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:50,914 within these results for the isotopic percentages, 723 00:45:51,165 --> 00:45:54,585 usually, one to two percent could be a miscalculation? 724 00:45:55,627 --> 00:45:57,671 How many percentages are we off by? 725 00:45:57,921 --> 00:46:00,090 Zinc-64, we're off by... 726 00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,594 We're off by about 2.5%. 727 00:46:03,677 --> 00:46:07,556 So that definitely puts it into the for-sure off-planet range. 728 00:46:08,015 --> 00:46:11,310 And the standard deviation of that measurement would be 1.25%, 729 00:46:11,393 --> 00:46:14,605 so there's not much variation or much room for error there. 730 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:21,195 So, zinc-64 and zinc-66 have isotopic ratios 731 00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:24,198 that are definitively not from earth? 732 00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:26,617 Based on these results, I would say yes. 733 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:28,118 It's a federal crime to change-- 734 00:46:28,202 --> 00:46:30,370 It's not like the labs are messing around with the data. 735 00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:32,581 -Yeah. -And they're looking at something 736 00:46:32,706 --> 00:46:34,333 that is not from here. 737 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,003 Yeah, I wanna emphasize this is not backdoor research or anything. 738 00:46:38,086 --> 00:46:40,714 As you said, it's a federal crime to alter these results 739 00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,257 since we did pay for them. 740 00:46:42,841 --> 00:46:45,677 So, they're actually truly mystery metals that are not forged on this planet? 741 00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:47,387 If not, how do they know what it is? 742 00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:48,805 You could forge them in this planet, 743 00:46:48,889 --> 00:46:53,727 but the isotopic results are pretty indicative to be from off-planet, so... 744 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:56,647 Well, our planet's a meteorite. It's a chunk off of something. 745 00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:58,815 And then a meteorite, we think of it as this little ball thing 746 00:46:58,899 --> 00:46:59,775 floating through space... 747 00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:08,200 Or it got evacuated from the core through a volcano, right? 748 00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:09,910 It could be laying around, it might-- 749 00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:13,038 Well, there's parts of other planetary cores out there on the asteroid belt 750 00:47:13,121 --> 00:47:14,998 that are flying around somewhere. 751 00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:21,171 Well, in my opinion, that was a nanotechnological device 752 00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:24,174 that was probably hooked into your nervous system, 753 00:47:24,258 --> 00:47:26,134 that's what caused the pain. 754 00:47:26,969 --> 00:47:30,264 Made of probably meteoric iron, and... 755 00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,978 having a lot of odd elements in it. 756 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:39,523 Guess I'm still in a little denial 757 00:47:39,606 --> 00:47:42,150 'cause I wasn't expecting finding materials in this object 758 00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:44,570 that is from out of this world. Not at all. 759 00:47:45,153 --> 00:47:47,114 Have you seen my report on object number 15? 760 00:47:47,322 --> 00:47:49,366 It's similar to your device, 761 00:47:49,449 --> 00:47:51,243 and I'll stick my neck out a little bit, 762 00:47:51,326 --> 00:47:53,537 saying this is probably a device. 763 00:47:53,912 --> 00:47:57,874 Is it the "Smoking Gun," as it says in the magazine article? 764 00:47:58,542 --> 00:47:59,918 I would say so. 765 00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:02,796 I mean, we would need a hundred tests like this 766 00:48:02,879 --> 00:48:04,756 to convince the entire scientific community, 767 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,927 but based on the fact that we're 768 00:48:09,052 --> 00:48:13,557 trying to do this on, what to them would be, a shoestring budget, 769 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,350 I think we've got some really good results here. 770 00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:18,478 And I think that this is a strong indication 771 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,815 that the object is from off-planet, and it's a sophisticated device, 772 00:48:21,898 --> 00:48:25,569 and we need to follow up with some more research. 773 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:27,946 I don't have any answers. I'm still... 774 00:48:28,905 --> 00:48:31,408 a Doubting Thomas on what this could possibly be. 775 00:48:31,491 --> 00:48:33,452 But I'm not jumping for joy 776 00:48:33,535 --> 00:48:36,705 'cause it just affirms that this whole story and this adventure is true, 777 00:48:36,788 --> 00:48:39,458 and it's just been a nightmare since childhood. 778 00:48:39,541 --> 00:48:41,418 You don't want it to be true. 779 00:48:42,544 --> 00:48:43,378 Not really. 780 00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:45,547 It's a pain. 781 00:48:46,131 --> 00:48:49,134 And you can't talk to anybody about it except for other UFO people, 782 00:48:49,217 --> 00:48:51,887 and it does... You just can't bring it up anywhere. 783 00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:54,014 The media has a taboo, just like politics, 784 00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:56,099 most people have their mind set in a certain way. 785 00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:57,517 There's no convincing them. 786 00:48:58,226 --> 00:49:02,189 How does this make you feel? Are you surprised by these results? 787 00:49:02,814 --> 00:49:05,651 Yes, 'cause I obviously thought it was something from the past. 788 00:49:05,817 --> 00:49:07,653 We don't have control over any of this. 789 00:49:07,736 --> 00:49:09,571 We're just being herded like cattle, 790 00:49:09,696 --> 00:49:12,324 and tagged, and who knows what they're doing. 791 00:49:12,616 --> 00:49:15,202 It does require a period of adjustment 792 00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:17,663 and it's a door which you can never close again. 793 00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:27,089 What happens to the ego when it confronts the truth 794 00:49:27,214 --> 00:49:29,883 that is poised to transform our belief systems? 795 00:49:30,926 --> 00:49:34,054 And is truth itself a matter of interpretation? 796 00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:41,770 All right. You take care, Steve. 797 00:49:41,895 --> 00:49:43,313 -You too. -Good seeing you. 798 00:49:43,397 --> 00:49:44,356 Good seeing you, too. 799 00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:47,150 Remember, it's an exclusive club. 800 00:49:50,529 --> 00:49:52,531 - You are patient number fifteen? -Yeah. 801 00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:54,324 -You never told me that. -I didn't? 802 00:49:54,491 --> 00:49:55,534 No. 803 00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:57,494 Dr. Leir didn't want me to tell very many people. 804 00:49:57,703 --> 00:50:00,789 I was supposed to be the scientist in this organization, 805 00:50:00,872 --> 00:50:03,166 but I went through the whole process. 806 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,835 I've lost my marriage over this whole thing. 807 00:50:04,918 --> 00:50:06,169 That was a major factor. 808 00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:07,754 Yeah, it's been a big deal. 809 00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,424 I mean, I never would even entertain a lot of this stuff, 810 00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,301 if I didn't have physical evidence that there's something going on. 811 00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:15,470 I've chosen to embrace it, 812 00:50:16,096 --> 00:50:18,849 in part, to get better treatment on the abductions. 813 00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:23,603 And there's no sense fighting. I mean, they're far too powerful for that. 814 00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:25,939 All they have to do is turn the mental control 815 00:50:26,022 --> 00:50:27,983 up to level 7 from level 3, 816 00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:29,818 and they can get you to do whatever they want. 817 00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:48,670 Like Schrödinger's famous thought experiment, 818 00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:54,301 I simply wanted to know if the cat in the box was dead or alive. 819 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,345 Is this object anomalous or not? 820 00:50:58,513 --> 00:51:00,474 The facts of the analysis do not lie, 821 00:51:01,391 --> 00:51:04,728 but the interpretation seems to be deeply subjective. 822 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,901 The hard scientific line, presupposed by the data, 823 00:51:11,276 --> 00:51:16,239 is easily bent by the worldview developed by those who seek answers. 824 00:51:18,283 --> 00:51:20,368 Where was the doc when we needed him? 825 00:51:21,077 --> 00:51:23,288 Where was the man who started it all? 826 00:51:24,206 --> 00:51:26,583 Was he playing his symphony in the sky 827 00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:28,835 having found peace from his questions 828 00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:30,629 in the realms of the knowing, 829 00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:34,758 while the mysteries that keep us mortals 830 00:51:34,841 --> 00:51:38,303 in a state of insomniatic disturbance roll on? 831 00:51:59,282 --> 00:52:02,410 I just wanna thank him for his understanding and his help, 832 00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:05,622 and acceptance of this whole thing. 833 00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:07,499 And... 834 00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:11,545 And it's too bad he had to pass before... 835 00:52:13,338 --> 00:52:14,589 he knew a hundred percent 836 00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:17,092 what the item was, in my leg. 837 00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:20,428 So a big thank you, actually. Thanks. 838 00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:47,497 The next move was to get interpretation of the data 839 00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:50,125 from a scientist known as "Nano Man," 840 00:52:51,334 --> 00:52:53,712 a military-funded nanophysicist 841 00:52:54,504 --> 00:52:59,050 who might be able to shine light on our seemingly anomalous analysis. 842 00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:04,890 Maybe he could tell me if there was anything to this data. 843 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:10,246 This came out of a man's leg. 844 00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:12,791 There's been a lot of kind of assumptions about it, 845 00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:14,709 but now we have the hard physical evidence 846 00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,252 of the elemental analysis. 847 00:54:16,336 --> 00:54:19,089 I just wanted you, as a nanophysicist, 848 00:54:19,172 --> 00:54:21,633 -to basically look at it. -Yes. 849 00:54:21,716 --> 00:54:22,968 Is this a Tonka truck? 850 00:54:23,551 --> 00:54:24,594 No. 851 00:54:25,178 --> 00:54:27,430 This sample is not a Tonka truck. 852 00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:31,601 It is not a rock or a pebble from the gravel. 853 00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:35,647 Maybe he picked up a piece of something in his leg 854 00:54:36,022 --> 00:54:39,025 and it's been bothering him. 855 00:54:39,901 --> 00:54:41,695 He had a strange experience, 856 00:54:41,987 --> 00:54:44,698 and decided that he had an implant. 857 00:54:44,781 --> 00:54:45,699 No. 858 00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:48,535 This is not a stone, or pebble, or a Tonka truck. 859 00:54:49,577 --> 00:54:52,789 There is nothing I can imagine 860 00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:58,670 that could explain why this man would have 861 00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:02,257 a witches' brew of elements 862 00:55:02,924 --> 00:55:05,218 within a sample embedded in his leg. 863 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,636 Arsenic. 864 00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:11,266 Quite a lot of arsenic, actually, in the sample. 865 00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:14,269 Yttrium. 866 00:55:14,394 --> 00:55:17,689 Yttrium is the material used in making superconductors. 867 00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:21,651 We have a huge amount of yttrium inside this, 868 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,279 and yttrium is extremely toxic. 869 00:55:24,571 --> 00:55:27,824 Machining superconductors, you have to wear masks and gloves 870 00:55:27,907 --> 00:55:30,535 'cause the powder is deadly. 871 00:55:33,913 --> 00:55:35,498 There are just... 872 00:55:36,958 --> 00:55:41,963 really an astounding number of elements here that are quite poisonous. 873 00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:45,216 Are these elements unique in any way? 874 00:55:45,383 --> 00:55:47,010 Just the elements themselves? 875 00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:48,178 Oh, absolutely. 876 00:55:48,553 --> 00:55:52,265 This is the most astounding array of elements in a single sample 877 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,933 I've ever seen. 878 00:55:54,225 --> 00:55:57,062 I have no idea how you would make such a thing. 879 00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:01,483 Even in your world of nanotechnology, where you do fabricate 880 00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:05,820 pretty exotic minute-scale machines and that kind of thing, 881 00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:08,031 this is still interesting to you? 882 00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:11,201 This object has an elemental analysis 883 00:56:11,451 --> 00:56:13,870 of a complexity I've never seen before. 884 00:56:14,913 --> 00:56:15,789 Wow. 885 00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:21,002 This thing is fabricated is what you're saying? 886 00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:23,922 Oh, yes. This thing is fabricated. 887 00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:26,132 Our most complex alloys, 888 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:30,720 maybe you'll have five different metals 889 00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:34,474 or oxides present in an alloy. 890 00:56:34,682 --> 00:56:39,896 This sample has an astounding array of metals present. 891 00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:44,317 We're talking about something that is highly advanced and fabricated 892 00:56:44,442 --> 00:56:45,985 by an intelligence. Is that correct? 893 00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,112 Yes. 894 00:56:47,195 --> 00:56:48,029 Straight up? 895 00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:49,280 Yes, straight up. 896 00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:53,409 This material had to be fabricated by something, by somebody, 897 00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:58,623 by an intelligence that was very sophisticated. 898 00:56:59,415 --> 00:57:03,419 Somebody went to a great deal of effort 899 00:57:03,503 --> 00:57:05,380 to create this object. 900 00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:10,468 I was told that there are four types of isotopes 901 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,846 that are found on earth in zinc. 902 00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:14,514 Those are the four that there ever was? 903 00:57:14,597 --> 00:57:17,016 There is a fifth one in very small quantity, 904 00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:20,228 but they basically looked at the big four. 905 00:57:20,311 --> 00:57:24,065 Okay. So, they're created here within our star system, 906 00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:26,276 the supernova that created our star system, 907 00:57:26,359 --> 00:57:28,194 -then our neighboring star systems. -Yes. 908 00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:31,114 And they have certain ratios that are typically found 909 00:57:31,197 --> 00:57:35,368 as far as the concentration of these different types of zinc. 910 00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,121 So zinc-64, zinc-66... 911 00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:40,498 -This kind of thing. -Yes. 912 00:57:41,207 --> 00:57:43,501 What ratios are you seeing there? 913 00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:45,837 Are they out of proportion with terrestrial ratios 914 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,838 and what does that tell us? 915 00:57:47,505 --> 00:57:51,301 So, in any sample, you expect some deviation 916 00:57:51,468 --> 00:57:55,054 from the normal isotopic ratio of any of these elements. 917 00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:57,265 But what we're seeing here 918 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,852 is a dramatic shift 919 00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:03,688 in the isotopic ratios of this sample 920 00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:09,527 versus the average isotopic ratio of zinc found on earth. 921 00:58:10,236 --> 00:58:13,198 This zinc is from some other part of the galaxy 922 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:14,532 at a minimum. 923 00:58:16,034 --> 00:58:18,077 I'm telling you, it's not from here. 924 00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:22,415 This sample did not come from our solar system, 925 00:58:22,707 --> 00:58:23,833 much less the earth. 926 00:58:24,375 --> 00:58:26,878 These isotopes provided us the evidence. 927 00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:31,216 These are not naturally occurring on earth. 928 00:58:32,759 --> 00:58:35,595 My mind is still kind of frozen with shock. 929 00:58:35,803 --> 00:58:37,972 I did not expect there to be proof. 930 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,226 You're just nodding your head but I'm freaked out. 931 00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:44,854 We have material that has been pulled out of a man's leg, 932 00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,356 that should not exist. 933 00:58:46,564 --> 00:58:50,026 This sample could not have been made on earth 934 00:58:50,109 --> 00:58:52,028 'cause the isotopic ratios 935 00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:58,076 do not support the idea or the theory that this sample was made here. 936 00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:00,870 I mean, so you got the "Smoking Gun," 937 00:59:00,954 --> 00:59:03,915 but it's in the form of an isotopic analysis. 938 00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:08,670 How do you make someone understand the implication of those numbers? 939 00:59:18,304 --> 00:59:19,430 Or maybe you don't. 940 00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:24,978 The 64 trillion-dollar question remains 941 00:59:25,728 --> 00:59:28,189 how did these ratios get here? 942 00:59:28,481 --> 00:59:32,318 This is not a ratio of zinc that you would find, 943 00:59:32,986 --> 00:59:34,654 that would be naturally occurring. 944 00:59:35,029 --> 00:59:38,825 This has nothing to do with naturally-occurring zinc 945 00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:43,121 in our solar system or in the surrounding solar systems. 946 00:59:44,038 --> 00:59:46,708 Within our neighborhood of the galaxy, 947 00:59:47,375 --> 00:59:48,835 this did not come from. 948 00:59:49,836 --> 00:59:52,672 These elements were created in a supernova 949 00:59:53,047 --> 00:59:57,635 that was manufacturing these elements in different ratios. 950 00:59:59,554 --> 01:00:02,181 Do you think, from what you've seen, 951 01:00:02,265 --> 01:00:06,227 these isotopes show us non-terrestriality? 952 01:00:06,311 --> 01:00:07,312 Yes, I do. 953 01:00:11,774 --> 01:00:17,196 Would you consider this... scientific report 954 01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:19,574 of the isotopes, a "Smoking Gun"? 955 01:00:19,657 --> 01:00:20,617 Yes, I would. 956 01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:25,413 I don't believe any human made this sample. 957 01:00:29,083 --> 01:00:31,336 I'm just trying to figure out my next step. 958 01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:36,674 I mean, I guess we're at a point where we can say, 959 01:00:36,883 --> 01:00:37,800 big questions. 960 01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:40,428 Yes. Huge questions. 961 01:00:47,226 --> 01:00:53,483 This is the most significant pieces of actual hardcore data 962 01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:59,155 we have ever seen in the field of UFO and extraterrestrial 963 01:00:59,572 --> 01:01:00,948 in this wide world. 964 01:01:01,115 --> 01:01:06,871 This is the single most compelling piece of data that's ever been generated. 965 01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:09,082 So that's a mystery. 966 01:01:09,832 --> 01:01:14,295 The implication of this is stretching my imagination. 967 01:01:22,178 --> 01:01:25,932 This is just about the point where I feel utterly lost. 968 01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:31,854 I've been investigating Dr. Leir's claims for almost a year now. 969 01:01:32,271 --> 01:01:35,358 It's been one step forward, two steps back. 970 01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:38,986 So here are the facts. 971 01:01:39,987 --> 01:01:44,033 Patient Seventeen had a strange object taken out of his leg. 972 01:01:44,742 --> 01:01:48,371 It was analyzed and interpreted by Dr. Leir's team. 973 01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:51,416 They believe the object is proof 974 01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:55,586 of advanced non-human intelligence engaging humanity. 975 01:01:58,339 --> 01:02:02,343 Patient Seventeen and I are less convinced. 976 01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:07,932 I called the lab and they stood behind the results. 977 01:02:08,683 --> 01:02:11,269 When I asked them if the isotopic results 978 01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:13,938 were consistent with non-terrestriality, 979 01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:17,817 they quickly admitted that errors can occur. 980 01:02:18,818 --> 01:02:22,864 I presented the data to the head meteorite specialist at UCLA, 981 01:02:23,656 --> 01:02:26,826 and he basically told me that we would need more tests 982 01:02:26,909 --> 01:02:28,870 to determine the object's origin. 983 01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,956 Innumerable scientists, 984 01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:35,585 from material specialists to nanotechnicians, 985 01:02:35,668 --> 01:02:37,253 have interpreted the data, 986 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:39,130 and it's a coin toss. 987 01:02:39,672 --> 01:02:42,258 Some find the composition anomalous, 988 01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:47,346 others say it's what you might expect to find in a common alloy. 989 01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:51,309 Most simply say, "We need more tests." 990 01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:56,564 With Dr. Leir gone, our only hope to further this case 991 01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:59,233 is to get our hands on the sample 992 01:03:00,026 --> 01:03:01,360 and continue the quest. 993 01:03:03,112 --> 01:03:05,698 This has proven to be a challenge. 994 01:03:37,438 --> 01:03:39,440 Please leave your message after the tone. 995 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,236 Hey, man, it's me. 996 01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:48,115 I've been trying for months to get a hold of Steve. 997 01:03:48,449 --> 01:03:49,867 He's changed his phone number, 998 01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:52,870 he won't answer any of my messages. 999 01:03:53,955 --> 01:03:58,960 I just don't know if we're gonna be able to get the sample back 1000 01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:01,838 or if we're gonna be able to figure out what this is. 1001 01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,882 I'm extremely frustrated. 1002 01:04:04,966 --> 01:04:08,928 I mean, I figure the only thing left is 1003 01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:11,681 to go bang on his door. 1004 01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:16,644 You know, we've come this far, man. 1005 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:19,188 We need to do more tests. 1006 01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:34,245 It seems that we each have front-row seats for this cosmic symphony, 1007 01:04:34,579 --> 01:04:39,417 an ultra-dimensional theater where we are observers and participants. 1008 01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:46,007 We are actors on this multi-galactic 1009 01:04:46,090 --> 01:04:49,010 and incomprehensibly mysterious stage, 1010 01:04:49,343 --> 01:04:52,972 and the price of admission is simply your own curiosity. 1011 01:05:27,423 --> 01:05:29,717 The problem with peeking behind the curtain 1012 01:05:29,842 --> 01:05:33,220 is that you can't unsee and you can't unknow. 1013 01:05:33,804 --> 01:05:36,057 Your curiosity becomes weaponized 1014 01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:39,393 and from that moment forward, you become a mechanism. 1015 01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:42,021 A beacon radiating with desire 1016 01:05:42,104 --> 01:05:45,441 magnitudes greater than you ever dreamed possible.